Gianni Versace, his killer may have met before his murder: Part 2

It has never been confirmed, but police say at least three witnesses claimed that Cunanan and Versace crossed paths in California.

[@dynamitediscodanny8123]

It's crazy how the guy that played versace looked exactly like him

[@bethmaharaj9047]

Identical I could not tell the difference

[@lexiali5012]

dynamite disco danny and andrew cunanan’s actor looks exactly like him too, it’s wack

[@tpolerex7282]

I knew Andrew quite well as well as Jeffrey Trail. What is wild is that I did not know that Andrew was 1/2 Filipino and as it turns out so is Darren Chris. Darren is way better looking than Andrew was but yes, they did look similar.

[@lexiali5012]

T Damon yeah darren is a lot better looking but there is 2 pictures of darren posing as andrew and they look almost the same

[@justchillininmebox.2814]

While Darren is waaaay better looking I can agree that as some points in the show they were *almost* Identical

[@louiefaundo]

who's here after watching the assasination of Gianni Versace?

[@orlandobabe]

Me!

[@Soupywontondish]

Me !

[@ebencipe]

Louie Faundo yess here

[@lovelove-ue5jq]

I'm watching it now

[@gxcxia]

I just finished it

[@82leegary]

I think they did meet, but Cunanan embellished the accounts of their time together. He probably killed him because Versace rejected him, or he was insanely jealous of his lifestyle.

[@joseantonioortega9763]

+Curlytop Asmr Lee ; both things ; really ; the Versaces sued to-2 the American Crime Story's producers becaused-'cuz the television-tv show's-was based i-in a book called " Vulgar Favors " ; #PénelopeCruz ; #RickyMartin ; #DarrenCriss ; #EdgarRamírez ; #LadyDiana ; #EltonJohn ; #LadyDi ...

[@graceelizabeth8435]

Haha lmao Andrew stares killing people because Versace rejected him

[@erickajoycepernito4227]

Gly Mhc he was HIV negative based on the test on his ashes since he’s cremated

[@radrobd]

IF they met, which may or may not have happened, it was prolly a fleeting moment, nothing of substance. Versace prolly met a lot of people and wouldn't remember him, but Cunanan would surely remember him.

[@laminage]

A little bit of both. His thing was "Why Him, and Not Me? in terms of his success, status and power. He deluded himself into thinking that if he was with someone and was part of their world, he should have the exact same stuff that they had. Remember Tom Ripley, when Dickie saw him wearing his Tuxedo and trying his clothes on. Dickie then should have kicked Tom out.

[@chapyboy98]

The FBI was totally negligent regarding Cunanan.

[@LayllasLocker]

not just FBI. That radio story about car and it's phone! Who ever ran that should be in jail.

[@laminage]

Do you think it has to do with Homophobia? It's amazing how South Beach was the Mecca For Gay Folks back in the day and not as much now. It was like the Southern Version of Greenwich Village.

[@StuLenS_Gaming]

Cuz he was white, simple

[@elijahwaters9974]

chapyboy98 no

[@Kadasberry11]

laminage That was definitely a part of it. You get that vibe from the FX series. Until Versace became the final victim, there was a bias and slow movement subsequent of it. It’s despicable

[@graziaszczerbanov6925]

His father was Filipino, his mother was Italian.. Darren Criss is playing Andrew Cunanan in that new American crime story show about the assassination of Versace.. Darren Criss is Filipino/Italian!! I was already happy about the resemblance but now I'm so glad they casted the part perfectly!

[@leerabhi]

Alter Ego he is Irish not Italian I think. But he does know Italian so there's that.

[@graziaszczerbanov6925]

divadancer sree ohhhhh okay. I thought he was Italian cause I think I saw a clip a long time ago of him speaking Italian! And I assumed. But thanks

[@av9246]

Agree.

[@zoeleanne02]

Darren is not Irish or Italian, his dad is just basically white but his mom is Filipino Darren claims he looks Italian but he’s not.

[@hannamadjine2878]

OnceUponaPretty LittleGleeWolf pleas take a clear info it's soo obvious on the story his father is the filipino navy cunanan

[@Pendragonthegreat]

Imagine if Cunanan had access to Grindr or social media .... 😥

[@thecapricorn11]

omg he would've killed more! damn

[@PeetaGrifffin]

Probably someone out there already did that. But we may never know.

[@damemarthafalker6738]

There's a frightening thought, huh? He'd be like the Craig's List killer turned up to TEN.

[@yokainat]

god damn

[@JulianneHannes]

Well he would have a hard time lying when everyone could fact check him on google in 2 seconds flat

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

This dude was ruined by his parents. When one tends to be taught that they’re unique, they tend to think the rules don’t apply to them.

[@PeetaGrifffin]

Dude wasn't ugly and pretty sure he wasn't short either. Why didn't he try to be a model? It's an honest living, it would've boosted his self esteem. Dude was lazy. Moral of the story: don't be lazy.

[@pagethreemodel]

He was an arrogant narcissistic. Therefore he didn’t want to work or earn a living. He just wanted to live off his wealthy sugarbabies.

[@619able]

mzChocoSensualHedbob daddies*

[@pagethreemodel]

Pi Lasts lol thanks

[@lourie_01]

His dads action made him like that.

[@illyrianalbogoddessx2142]

Peeta Griffin He was a narcisistic sociopath. People dont kill for being lazy

[@crybaby373]

I don’t understand how police only really got into it after Versace’s murder which was obviously horrible but so were the poor 4 victims before him

[@andreblackaller3560]

Kelly VH they where gay and back in the 90’s homophobia was out of control.

[@heidiproctor5503]

What André said, since they were homosexual they were persona non grata, of no interest ,grouped with the homeless and sex works, not worthy of the time and effort to find their killers. This is just my humble opinion

[@andreblackaller3560]

Heidi Proctor that’s exactly what I’m thinking

[@kissarococo2459]

hehad a headstart and cops initially believed he was the victim.

[@gabrielmiramontes5879]

He was on the FBI's most wanted list prior to the Gianni V murder for almost 2 months. But I can see how it was frustrating that they didn't find him. He was living in south Florida in Plane sight.

[@annrrf1464]

If only his father taught him the value of hard work instead of the value of material wealth, things may may well have been different.

[@lucygarcia6295]

Does anyone know what happened to his sisters? The ones who the dad ignored?

[@annrrf1464]

@@lucygarcia6295 they are still around. Married with family

[@laminage]

Amen, so many folks in My Family want things but they have to align themselves with the right folks. My Cousin was notorius for that. I would say to him, "Accept people for who they are not for what they have." or "It's very dangerous for you to hang bad with folks like that when you don't have their kind of money."

[@dirtydiana1348]

Rest in peace Gianni, you are still loved and missed fashion genius

[@mariannedelacruz1550]

.

[@GodBlessAmerica-rx9jw]

Gianni lives on!

[@Chillguy77x]

Dirty Diana rip Andrew we love you🙏🏽

[@fabmanthereal]

do you know if there is a good documentation about gianni and hes work? his upcoming and building versace, (not just his death 😒)

[@e2_otb36]

Dirty Diana I still love Versace clothing always will

[@southbeachmiamiart895]

I'd like to research Gianni Versace without the lunatic murderer popping up all the time. Gianni was a very talented man.

[@mymidgetbae184]

Ikr. He was a talented man but media focused more on his death.

[@liliankyrian8902]

the resemblance between him and Darren Criss.. Gosh!!! perfect cast

[@helinjaff7013]

in what way ?

[@joannjohnson2481]

Yes he did it was very scary.

[@briisawhoreheckyeah7706]

I watch the Assassination of Versace on Netflix and its Fucking good I love Andrew Cunanan

[@cheriselaing802]

Right?!!! Brilliant!!

[@laurendy5534]

Plot twist: Darren Criss is actually Andrew Cunanan 😵

[@dewimayangsari556]

I can't imagine how Donatella felt the moment she heard the words that her big brother got shot right in front of his own mansion by someone he barely knew, rest in peace, Gianni! you're so deeply missed

[@anngirling8043]

JEALOUSY....the root of all evil.Need I say more?

[@feelinglikeaceowithqueenal8019]

No money this was all because of money

[@patrickpepin8577]

He was a malignant narcissist

[@demiradz9843]

Ha ha ha ha

[@marcoaguilera1171]

Yessss!!

[@briisawhoreheckyeah7706]

Y'all are so mean to Andrew, All he wanted was to be understood and loved, his father leaving him and his boyfriend leaving him, that's why he became a killer he wanted someone to understand him

[@colinmurphy2214]

As they tend to be

[@briisawhoreheckyeah7706]

Andrew needs some little lovin' And wants to feel the lovin'

[@kathleen7849]

He wanted wealth but he didn't want to earn it, he wanted to take it...... Why does that sound familiar?

[@Marcel_Audubon]

Donald J. Trump? Jared Kushner?

[@jada8684]

Kind of like us, people today. They want to be wealthy without doing work. They dream of it. They WANT IT SO BADLY. But the effort, the patience to get there. We do not have.

[@lg8159]

Trump??

[@JeweLinHisHans]

Kathleen he should have gone into politics.

[@Jazzzzyyyy__]

I wish we knew what Cunanan sounded like. You can tell a lot about a person by the sound of their voice.

[@JohnPaul-sp5bf]

I read an article once written by a close friend of his. The writer said he had a deep voice.

[@arthurhiggins3812]

Yes, Cunanan's friends said that he had a deep voice, though he talked very openly gay. And his Hyena-like laughter was loud and hearty.

[@GodisMyNo1]

Happy Birthday Gianni Versace, ( december 2, 1946-Forever). Your talent and legacy live on, and you are loved and missed!

[@amalzuhair4495]

I believe Versace was Andrew’s ideal sugar daddy someone who could give him access to all the riches and popularity Versace obtained but Versace had anyone to his disposal so their alleged ‘short liaison’ might hurt his ego beyond repair causing him to make Versace his last victim.

[@GerriWritesAbit]

amal zuhair I believe this too. I think Versace rejected him and Cunanan couldn’t take it.

[@fuchsiaswing8545]

The key word here is "alleged." Most of Andrew Cunanan's life is a mystery because most people in his social circle did not know him. He was a pathological liar who created many fantastical and exaggerated stories about his life and travels. Nobody will ever know what the full truth to his claims. One thing we can probably all agree on is that Versace and Cunanan AT BEST had a brief encounter (nothing exceptional) and that was it. Anything beyond that seems to fall in line with Cunanan's storybook lies.

[@ilean7499]

I don’t think Versace even gave him a chance but that he was so set on manipulating his way into that life that it enraged him and so he killed Versace

[@laminage]

Absolutely! Also when they hung out with each other Gianni didn`t tell Andrew he was involved with someone. Also in his own way Gianni knew that Andrew was a deseperado. He was a very dangerous man.

[@kiramabel2216]

the thing that got me to stop empathising with him whilst watching ACS was that in ACS, they made a point to show you each and every time he could’ve walked away and got help but he ignored it, even before the killings. made sure to take me right out of the apologetic mindset. such a well written and performed series.

[@anysore3880]

that are true stupid he face body like model,and he brain not normal but super gunieuss 1.4+++ u no..that trus life money boy party..and he best frnd all have nice work n handsome like him..u dont no life money boy

[@jddominguez3088]

In the show...Andrew's father was always putting him on a pedestal sort to speak. Giving the master bedroom and other perks. If that was true in real life, could that upbringing have shaped his personal beliefs?

[@laminage]

My Friend's Parents did that. I was shocked when she told me. I asked her "Why?" and she said "Because I wanted it."

[@swicheroo1]

Says so much, right? Hierarchy is to be respected. Even when training animals, that is a cardinal rule. And we are all, in the end, animal-beings.

[@seoighebird7679]

His father sexually abused him. That didn’t really help with what happened

[@illyrianalbogoddessx2142]

Jd Dominguez It doesnt matter how you raise a sociopath. Hadnt his father raised him that way he would just be a sociopath but his father made him a narcisistic sociopath.

[@ladycopine]

technically a sociopath is created by the environment, usually by the parent's abuse while a psychopath is born this way...personnally i do think andrew was the result of his father's behavior...

[@maz941]

HOW DARE HE, CALLING HIMSELF FILIPINO ROYALTY

[@Marcel_Audubon]

calm thyself, sweetie, that's the least of his offenses

[@Discosaturn]

The Philippines has never had any monarchs ever since the Spanish invasion and the only "royalty" that Filipinos have today are mostly political dynasties. Examples: the Marcoses, the Aquinoses, the Estradas, etc.

[@kurisuteruruna5327]

@@Discosaturn some royalties are still present in Mindanao parts. Most Muslims still has royalties present.

[@firstandlastswagman269]

Gay shuggar

[@cutiejohn0105]

@@Discosaturn and Dutertes

[@evidencematters7588]

I love you so much Gianni Versace, it breaks my heart that you arent alive. You were a great artist, you would still be creating now. You went way too soon. Way too soon

[@AmandeepSingh-ty2nv]

Still don't know why the fbi guy wrote revenge on the glass!

[@meechivelli]

Dramatic effect, gets the people going 🤣

[@TheBlackGeisha]

@@meechivelli 😂😂😂

[@JFreese]

Ryan Murphy’s production team is so good at making actors look like who they are playing Jesus Christ!! It’s unbelievable

[@polbzh]

Nowadays he could become one of those instagram models and get the attention he needed that way. Case closed

[@lizmunt9116]

R. I. P all those murdered. Love to their friends and family

[@IndigoCosmic]

They made a whole FX serious about Gianni's murderer. Barely anything about Versace. Versace should have had more security and distance from his mansion to the street where the public was. He felt too comfortable around regular people which a no, no for rich celebrities.

[@criticfortheuploader2035]

Cunanan was a modern gigolo...

[@SuperBullaMan]

Cunanin reminds me of that Never been kissed Half Asian Killer, Jealousy of his White Roots!!!

[@illyrianalbogoddessx2142]

SuperBullaMan elliot rodger?

[@erossore8500]

ILLYrianAlboGODDESS X that’s all I can think about lmao

[@briisawhoreheckyeah7706]

Does that mean he was a Male Prostitute?

[@briisawhoreheckyeah7706]

So sexy!😉

[@pamelalenson4297]

Rest in peace Gianni! Cant believe so many idiots here are being disrespectful to you, but you are a legend and outlive any of the idiots here who just like Assdrew, are jealous of your success

[@777letthelightin]

So it took 20 years to figure this out?

[@Whitneypyant]

willow ! I think they been figured it out. I think they are rehashing it because of the mini series and that it's been 20 years.

[@LifeOfTheParty323]

I think they've known however with the new show on FX, now they're back on the spotlight.

[@lurdesalvarenga5560]

His dad used to abuse him as a child, teaching him that he was special. So wrong that.

[@icebud]

Is there a part 3?

[@nononsense501]

Gone but never forgotten. Mr. Versace you will always be an iconic king 🤴 of fashion. RIP.

[@auxoraaa]

I’m from Calabria as well and I’m glad its safe where I live! We love Gianni Versace so much! We will always love him.❤️❤️🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@christinetayag4927]

Everyone can be a parent but not everyone deserve to be one. His father gives him everything in life thats why he never learn to work for something he wanted. So when he experience real life he wasn’t taught by the books and his father, he didn’t know how to feed himself through hardwork.

[@eventplanner461]

It could just be me, but that female reporter with red lip stick kind of looks like Kris Jenner.

[@victorvictor8587]

Ready for the Casting Couch .

[@davianstewart2539]

For real

[@bluedancelilly]

Darren Criss was amazing in his portrayal of Cunanan!

[@learnmore3387]

His dad failed him smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Ninaagabi]

I thought It was a misconception that narcissist are “insecure” they actually truly believe that they are deserving of all those things.

[@illyrianalbogoddessx2142]

Nina Gabrielle yeah but they depend on those things to have self esteem. Otherwise they are insecure

[@iyana8234]

Wait a minute where is the rest of this?

[@AmityMorgan]

is there a part 3?

[@j.t.masters1934]

They had met before. It was at Lago di Como. Garden party,at the Versace residence. Cunanan was by the shore admiring the view and they exchanged a few words. Gianni was most gracious.

[@lulun3724]

Sociopath and antisocial personality for sure, targeting rich men, so sad

[@richyr5876]

its sad because we have people like him out there right now.. smh especially in this social media time. wanting attention or likes and so on so its a its a matter of time before we see something like that again Versace was amazing.

[@mariasolfernandez326]

Why abc never uploads part1 and part2 together, in every story there’s always one part missing. It’s pretty annoying 😑🥺

[@luperocha4682]

The Government likes to get rid of competition and their enemies.

[@cutienoli]

Wow... heavy words to describe this man

[@JPKnapp-ro6xm]

The description of Venice that Cunanan gave in the postcard cited in this film is from "Brideshead Revisited" by Evelyn Waugh.

[@silviaalfaro8830]

Where is the rest?!

[@marcomaestro7195]

Where is the Part 3?

[@laminage]

It kind of reminds me of Teen Idols. One minute you're the hottest thing walking, next minute it's "Who?" they don't want you. Just when you got used to the lavish lifestyle it's taken away from you.

[@laminage]

@@illyrianalbogoddessx2142 He was an Outcast, he couldn't handle not having The Finer Things In Life, he grew up deluding himself into thinking he had some entitlement without working for it.

[@G0125p]

moments that could prevent all the murders: 1. If the first old man not been killed by that straight. Andrew suppose to end up with him. 2. If Andrew not greedy by asking the list to John Blatchford. 3. If Jeff did not tell Andrew that he is moving to Minneapolis. 4. If Andrew did not drop out from degree.

[@DeHirvilammi]

This killer only killed his ex lovers

[@ryanLeKing]

..Lol.

[@LayllasLocker]

No. For sure, that dude he killed to steal his truck wasn't his anything.

[@alyssat91]

SYDNEY HI wrong. Do your research.

[@belleamebrielle3964]

SYDNEY HI exactly

[@FacebookBrowser]

@@belleamebrielle3964 NO, NOT exactly sweetie. Gianni Versace was NOT his lover. Versace didnt mess with ugly losers who thought they were hot when they were not. The cemetery guy didnt know that piece of shit either

[@hectorlugo6220]

Versace will always be missed 😢

[@robertpace901]

So Madsen and Trail lived in the same place in Minnesota? Cunanan knew both of them and had a past relationship with Madsen? And possibly with Trail? Sounds like Trail and Madsen were more than friends and Cunanan was jealous Trail ended up with Madsen and that Madsen chose Trail over him. Trail and Madsen wouldnt go to Minnesota together just as friends imo.

[@minettesv1205]

Why did Cunanan did not even save money if he is given that much money for monthly allowance. He does not have any ambition to work and be better? He thought he can have a lavish lifestyle without working? He was living in a fairy tale world. That is true for those that were born millionaires. For those that were not, we have to work to have a better life. And that is something to be proud of. No short cuts in life.

[@laminage]

Folks like him are Grade A Spendaholics. They are monetary addicts. No matter how many clothes that they have, they have to have more. Also after all of the chaotic upset he saw with his parents, he didn't want history to repeat itself. Also "working", earning one's keep and the like are far below them. At one point my cousin thought he was too good to go into Walmart, but now he goes in for his Food. They also never learned monetary management, budgeting and the like, it's heartbreaking and disgraceful.

[@aitaisakura4281]

He could have earn more money by doing a skilled job

[@milvache]

Gianni Versace is a legend and he didnt deserve to be murdered by a gay killer

[@17naqvi]

Official Filmilen Gianni was also gay

[@navarrolevel7]

How anout a straight one? 😂

[@mayanguon4402]

uh they’re both gay, there’s nothing with being gay lmao😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Marcel_Audubon]

"He bought a One. Way. Ticket." big deal, I do it all the time as do millions of other people - doesn't mean we're on a murder spree, lady

[@elliottblair31]

I said the same thing after watching the series. All trail had to do was report the gun stolen.

[@Madmen604]

His dad was sociopathic too. He fled to the Phillipines to escape embezzelment charges by his employer. I want to know how old he was when he was first sexually assaulted by an older man , was it a priest, his father, a family friend or a neighbourhood peer?

[@P1mpMyBr1de]

Did he or didn't he meet Versace? It's a mystery 🤷‍♂️

[@Poundgamepro1]

He mimicked any emotions.

[@Tyra_Richards]

Well he was an interesting and complex person, also crazy of course

[@selimibadi6646]

It’s all about Cunanan failure to accept rejection and digest it gracefully , You can’t be everybody’s type of man ! There are many people suffering from this inability but to allow it to overcome sanity and metamorphose into criminal act is CREAZY and pathetic , no excuse for Cunanan sorry . Casting of American crime story was P E R F E C T I O N ! Bravo really

[@remypereira3096]

Imagine they cast Rocco Siffredi instead of Ricky Martin

[@ebencipe]

Rifath Mannan he doesnt look like versace's lover

[@remypereira3096]

ebencipe 🙃

[@hannahvance3798]

I don't like Andrew Cunanan

[@user-xt3gt7gg9h]

Hannah Vance How could you not ?!

[@copperguide1675]

His parents are partially to blame

[@tomhollandisababe1441]

Stony no.

[@Robalexander-de4hf]

Andrew funny and gay 🤣😂

[@katsu_papi]

who else is losing their minds on the title?!? *insert "he may have met" ABCnews...

[@Saffrone221]

I think Versache dated the guy

[@Pinkranger87]

Lvl100MagiKarp Splash or Andrew tried to date him but Gianni already had a committed partner

[@thecapricorn11]

i don't think they dated but for sure hooked up, (versace)

[@mijnschatvita]

Nefarious Cookie yes

[@Pinkranger87]

I think he tried to date him but Gianni Versace saw right through him. Gianni was able too see through the bull shit Andrew was pushing

[@dirtydiana1348]

Nefarious Cookie Versace had a super-handsome lover. He wasnt desperate for this half filipino ugly pos good for nothinf

[@santarosaamandaarmas2561]

Him was revenge because Versace not was nothing with him.

[@leonpeart9447]

Where is part 3

[@lovewhitalways2010]

but there are crazy people doing crazy things now that we do not yet know. be smart, be safe. someone always knows where i am or who i am with. try not to put yourself in unsafe situations.

[@222jese]

Jeff was very cute

[@butchcassidy9625]

48 caliber? Where do they make those at?🧐

[@angelica381]

Andrew Cunanan really does look like Darren Criss omg 😐

[@mariamagadalena7147]

Wait,what happened to Cunanan?

[@heyya2482]

He commited suicide

[@bonniemessick2513]

His dad was very sexual with him and spoiled him rotten.

[@jorgealava1402]

Oh Gianni Versace i only bought a pair of Sandals. I really cant afford you. You are so expensive. Hehehe you re an idol. A great designer. I love your designs.

[@sephreyes1625]

That jeff guy was so cutee thoooo😭 rip

[@giovanny1062]

I thought he was the actor!! They played wery well the rol

[@Jetsetter79]

who nos if they met before, but i think andrew wanted to go out on a bang and versace was his choice to make a big mark. he needed a big name to end on.

[@GuhbsBeats]

ABC YT Crew: "Hey guys I know how we can make enough money for a vacation, lets take the same video and copy half of it and call it part 2"

[@ZeruWilde]

Kryptonlte good thing I started on part 2 lol

[@goodysmoothie6027]

Part 3?

[@aateriovalhalla2787]

His greed, selfishness and pride made him self destruct.

[@thomaspick4123]

You did not explain enough about the cornholing going on.

[@karabojackson2852]

Am I the only one who gets Basanio from Merchant of Venice vibes?🤔

[@vidadoria6042]

What a shame to his family

[@astridortiz4684]

Why he kill him? Why?

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

Andreeew Cunanan this guy was a enigma, did anyone even really know him?? I would not call him lazy, to go those lengths you would need lots of enthusiastic energy. My guess is he was never truly happy with himself, a angry, disturbed, maniac in true fashion. At the end of the day he leaves society to figure out the question as to; who, what, and why.

[@esq.m7076]

Such great loss for the fashion industry ... 😞

[@Tyra_Richards]

Actor who is also half philippine did a good job playing him

[@hijugontis]

That guy writing with the marker looks like he’s not left handed at all, but trying so hard to be, wut 😂

[@MicaMicaMIcaa]

Yes, but it's Versace not Versacee.

[@chitchatkat]

Michelle Peretto better to say not versachi but versache

[@nygeek6471]

Great video, except for the fact that roid rage doesn’t come from hydrocortisone steroid creams, it comes from *anabolic* steroids I.e. testosterone.

[@luisrivera6345]

Hey is john walsh! I met his daughter Megan, she ended up dating my friends brother for short term, and that's how I met her.

[@stephenfermoyle1498]

the man was a true gentleman SAD that this thing took his life

[@wanderingsoul1500]

this saddens me

[@PimpinBassie2]

1:51 "Caviar" with a metal spoon?

[@sm31156]

They never met!