Gil's Arena SETTLES The Debate on Jordan's BAD Defense

Gil's Arena SETTLES The Debate on Michael Jordan's BAD Defense as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew address Rasheed Wallace's recent take on MJ's poor defensive skills and Gil explains the nuance behind being a good net defender and being a menace while guarding 1on1.
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[@1muneymic]

He was 9x all team defense and won MVP and DPOY in the same season

[@TA-ht4jo]

Gil explained that in the video. Folks need to watch the video first and not just the headlines before commenting.

[@1muneymic]

@@TA-ht4jo Brandon Jennings didn’t mention it. That’s who made the hot take!

[@PLawton2900]

He was known as a defensive stopper at North Carolina.

[@powerinvolved-di3vl2yd6q]

Doesn't matter if he mentioned it. This take is fulll of shhh lmao. NO guard in the nba had more blocks than Jordan either.@@TA-ht4jo

[@belamarr1612]

Kobe won hella all defensive teams he shouldn’t have won so ts doesn’t mean anything

[@koji3759]

It’s wild how people want to revise history.

[@jahel548]

HIS-story

[@dapo09]

That cashapp from Clutch sports hits like a muggg

[@Milt-g4f]

​@@dapo09rent free

[@SosaA11]

Like Jordan did with the last dance ?🤣

[@davontee1721]

They will say Jordan great at everything that’s sad asl

[@jamesw5713]

This social media saying something dumb about Michael Jordan for clicks is getting old fast.

[@cookiemonster64]

They not even hiding it lol

[@brendaarmstrong7944]

It does but I expect it

[@petiteverdot6673]

And it is always those who have NOT reached their potential critiquing the Great players!

[@brendaarmstrong7944]

And it's always someone who has to pass their opinion as if it's gospel for all.

[@ninjachannel007]

"We done with the 90s" made me leave TikTok for the 48th time.

[@Thunderfirelighting]

Anybody say MJ was not an elite defender looses all credibility.

[@refillz5281]

Anybody who can't spell basic words, loses all credibility.

[@KDRusha]

I think it’s just them going too far in the opposite direction. MJ was really not close to the defender Pippen was, MJ was just a lot more likely to take risks defensively, meaning jumping passing lanes and swiping at the ball handler more often. He was certainly way above average on D but not as good as his legend has made it out to be.

[@goodiegoodiegumdrops]

There is an actual breakdown of nba legends defense(Jordan included) by Thinking Basketball I believe, and it's the most accurate one thus far flaws and all.

[@KDRusha]

@@refillz5281 I was just gonna ignore that typo 😭😭

[@bnyc2000]

My man, have u heard the convos they've had just this week alone? They lost credibility a while ago.

[@ThinBlueR1]

For someone who played in the NBA. Jennings acts like he has no basketball IQ and is just a fan of the game.

[@scottjones5568]

Jennings is a dumb @ss. What is his purpose on the show? He's horrible at talking bball.

[@RoseBall-cv1bs]

sure do goofy ass behavior

[@chosenhandles]

Man it’s aggravating to watch. I hope Gil not paying him for real

[@watchmenetworktv]

You see he didn’t last too long 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

[@mythicalrizz]

I appreciate when they have serious conversations and real debates.. This feels like they ran out of material, or just wanted to be controversial with shock value for views.. It was kind of a cheap take.

[@Realest1ne]

The take about him not making all defense until Scottie is a bit disingenuous. MJ’s first all defensive team was in 88 when Scottie was a rookie averaging 20 minutes a game off the bench 😑

[@la_nomercy]

PLUS… MJ got 200+ steals and 100+ blocks THE YEAR BEFORE Pippen got there! He was just continuing his stellar defensive play the next year in 1988 and got 200+ steals and 100+ blocks AGAIN!

[@bigb2494]

Exactly, disregarding the fact he didn't have a legitimate chance to make it the previous year, due to the fact he missed most of the season with a broken foot.

[@tahjaymatthews13]

200 steals/100 blocks only been done 4 times he has 2 of them

[@pettywap1183]

steals dont mean shit harden finished top 3 in steals a couple years in houston

[@BigDilf3]

@@pettywap1183harden is not a bad defender when he actually wants to play defense

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@BigDilf3lmao facts hes showing that shit on the Clips

[@easylife6348]

@@dxtremecaliber harden always been like that almost his whole career. Back in his okc days when he plays the most defense than all the other teams he played with. Once he started playing for the rockets he decided to play no defense. Since now he isn’t a number one or number 2 option he can now focus on defense more like he was in okc.

[@anthonys___n8022]

​@@pettywap1183 I guess you miss the blocks too

[@3dtraining633]

Pip gaurding KD and Jordan gaurding D Book. Ain't no way he is going to say Im guarding Grayson Allen LOL. Come on Gil

[@dreamvilleT]

Ron Harper can take him late and let Jordan roam if KD get too hot

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Rodman got KD Pippen is on Booker Harper and MJ shut down Beal

[@3dtraining633]

@dreamvilleT Aint no roaming Beal is still out there. Mike going to guard one of those 3 dudes. He definitely not gaurding no Damn Grayson Allen

[@dreamvilleT]

@@3dtraining633 Rodman can take whoever too though if they want somebody roaming they can have it they built a defensive unit Beal ain’t nuclear no more

[@3dtraining633]

@@dreamvilleT With all due respect to Rodman, the best rebounder ever. HE HAs NO CHANCE of gaurding KD lol.

[@egbunaobi4237]

This podcast should be called Opinions of the Unaccomplished, Gilbert Arenas should make that the title of his autobiography. Mike was considered an incredible defender going back to UNC. What are non defenders like Gilbert and Brandon Jennings doing even discussing defense ???

[@davidprice4777]

I strongly disagree 1988 DPOY speaks for itself as I am glad that Gil acknowledged Scottie Pippen!Dennis Rodman was a generational Perimeter Defensive player!Old Man Sidney Moncrief was two time DPOY!❤

[@Bask3tChase]

He has the defensive player of the year award and 9 NBA first team defense selections.. This is beyond click bait ignorance.

[@SigmaLyfestyle]

Great defender against less athletic players and was bigger than.

[@jonathancalderon8178]

If you watch the actual interview he says the nba wanted to give him that because he was MJ but that we would get cooked on a nightly basis 1on1

[@Bask3tChase]

​@@SigmaLyfestyle Saying guys like Magic Johnson, Clyde Drexler, and Karl Malone weren't freak athletes is peak ignorance. Like bro... young Shaq was playing when Jordan was playing and he's one of the freakiest atheletes of all time. Y'all be repeating talking points without having the first damn clue.

[@nakialee8436]

He shouldn't have won DPOY but he was still an elite defender. Brandon just makes bad hot takes. I'll accept sheed saying it because he was a defender, but he is still wrong too.

[@nomad4411]

Media awards. He 100% is a great defender but the best defender on his team were either pippen or Rodman.

[@spaceghostp6672]

This hot take culture is trash lmao

[@Bask3tChase]

For real though. The "new media" is just narcissists gassing up other narcissists.

[@Capo1504]

people will lie right in your face and call it a "hot take". nasty work

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Yessir!!

[@Ben2bwild]

​@NxLim1t it's ridiculous. And people take this bs like it's the gospel

[@mrcain3128]

This is a hate session. Phil had a system that worked and won 6 rings. These clowns now have something to say because there was nothing they nor anyone else in the league could do against MJ and the bulls. Silly people

[@jayg5650]

It’s crazy the young woman at least had the most honest response smdh All you have to do is watch the tape if you didn’t see him play. The footage speaks for itself.

[@malikmyrick6710]

The Only person who agreed he wasn’t a good defender was Brandon if you really listened to the conversation. Gil just was saying Jordan wasn’t the on ball defender Scottie was which is fair

[@Ben2bwild]

​@malikmyrick6710 but just because he wasn't better than Pippen doesn't mean he wasn't a good defender. They were both great defenders

[@danielsims916]

@@malikmyrick6710which was true. Jordan couldn’t guard quicker guard or high rise players, bj Armstrong said that in an interview. Not saying that he was a bad defender but he wasn’t the glorified defender people thought he was . If he was playing against the lakers, u will see him guard vando most of the game because vando doesn’t shoot like that so it’s no energy wasted

[@TOKYO9AIN]

@@Ben2bwildhe wasn’t a better defender than Scottie but how many defensive awards does Scottie have ????

[@AIR-CRAFT-CARRIER]

She’s a pro player but a casual, she say she’d cut d wade and keep Vince Carter. Nobody takes her takes serious

[@jjdjdub34]

What is going on with these pods lately. Jordan averaged 2 steals a game 10 of 13 seasons, Payton did it 8 of 18. Payton lead the league ONCE, Jordan did 3 times.

[@Ben2bwild]

Even Iverson said MJ still almost recovered and blocked that shot after the killer crossover. He said that's how great of a defender he was

[@PickEmUpMessEmUp]

No he didn’t

[@Ben2bwild]

@@PickEmUpMessEmUp no he didn't what? Iverson said that himself. It's on KZbin buddy lol

[@lenoncho3777]

​@@PickEmUpMessEmUpgo look it up before talking bum ass...

[@tylercartwright7514]

Yep! Iverson said that. I watched the interview where he did.

[@ajenewhite9866]

​@Ben2bwild I just saw that the other day, what pod was that on? they all starting to run together now

[@pickyourfaceup384]

He has more steals and blocks than GP. Smh

[@devilfriend]

More than Pippen too. Also, more stocks than JJJ, Kawhi, Gianis, Gobert and many other DPY while playing less possessions the year he won.

[@drewlavay]

300 less games than GP too. 500 less games than Bron and has more steals than him, too.

[@Dejays_lifestyle]

Jordan DPOY Payton '96 steals leader Stat wise the same 😂

[@pickyourfaceup384]

@@Dejays_lifestyle how is that the same

[@libfit9068]

@@Dejays_lifestyle How many times was Jordan steals leader? Lemme know.

[@Kaybaptista]

Whos actually listening to ppl who NEVER PLAYED DEFENSE 😂😂😂😂

[@alwayzdolo]

Gil played against some of the best defenders in his era and got buckets on them so he knows what they do

[@mwebster3265]

@@alwayzdoloThank you. 👍👍👍 You beat me to it. I was gonna say the same thing. People don’t THINK.

[@originaltroll7511]

😂😂😂 i cant pull up a play Gil made a steal but MJ made one to win his 6th title

[@jameslane2402]

Facts...but let's be real. Gilbert's name tells you everything you need to know...😂😂😂

[@rashawnhorne552]

@@alwayzdoloI think he was saying that Gil doesn’t play defense which is true

[@kareemlyons3761]

My grandma used to say just because somebody tell you something with a straight face don't mean it ain't bullshit

[@Freshprincephilly]

This is crazy lol. I never thought I would see the day that people are trying to debate if Jordan was a good defender.

[@petiteverdot6673]

And do you notice who constantly debates?? The "could have been type players" ...so it's ok, what else can they do but talk and debate!

[@imaginethat3026]

​@@petiteverdot6673right..lol

[@jasonau427]

I always give players credence because they played BUT just because you played doesn’t mean you know everything or right.

[@smoove354]

Sheed played against him...

[@dreamvilleT]

Bill Belichick

[@jasonau427]

@@smoove354 MJ had 9 All Defensive Selections (3 1st Team). Multiple 200 steals seasons. Multiple steals titles. First player ever with 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season.

[@RCTricking]

Maybe worse at defense than today’s players and systems, but he was great THEN as a two-way player

[@sfchampionsbasketball9665]

@@RCTrickingwhat?!!! LOL. Jordan was better at both ends than today’s players with the exception of 3 pt shooting and overdribbling. His defense had something most guys’ don’t: effort and positioning

[@jahy1970]

One statement here.... ' Ignorance is bliss. '

[@velcapitan]

They have whole games of MJ being an elite defender in the 80's and early 90's on youtube.

[@ImtHE1ne54]

Mike was a SOLID individual defender. He gambled sometimes which led to getting burnt & he struggled against bigger more physical guys, but he was a solid positional defender who could legitimately guard 2-3 positions.

[@djjsmooth27]

Mike was an elite defender. Don’t let Gil and the rest of these clowns try to fool y’all. I saw it growing up. Mike was Defensive Player Of the year, league leader in steals 3 TIMES!!, ALL DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM 9 TIMES!! He has the second most blocks among guards in NBA history!!! The reason why he is the GOAT is because he played both sides of the ball. This is a terrible take

[@tellall23]

Are they referring to DPOY Mike? NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988) 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988-1993, 1996-1998),3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993) LOOOOL

[@imaginethat3026]

Right..in era where centers only defensive awards at it

[@sydneyaj19]

Over 100 blocks and over 200 steals in back to back seasons yo, WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SMMFH!!!!

[@HappyfaceSinner]

There is no such thing as an individual lock down defender in the NBA. Everyone is getting beat 1 on 1. A good defender is making it difficult and forcing you to go to something other than your comfort zone.

[@Tek1014media]

Thank you!

[@Ben2bwild]

Facts!

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Exactly and jordan was that.

[@charlesholmes3075]

Nah Gil explained it perfectly. SGs wasn’t moving like AI so when he started guarding small guards in ISO he had issues. He still a great defender but he more of an IQ defender than an on ball lock and nothing is wrong with that

[@bryrashad]

Not true. There’s a lot of guys in the league that can lock you up when they’re giving 100%, but when they’re tasked with other responsibilities on the court it’s unrealistic to expect a guy to lock up a team’s best player while trying to score, grab boards, or make plays. This is why guys like Jarrod Vanderbilt exist. No offensive game, but defensively he can take superstars completely out of the game when he’s trying. I saw him and Cam Reddish do it to guys like Booker, KD, Steph, Halliburton, etc.

[@ToddOleg]

This is the most full of shit they’ve EVER been. And that’s saying a LOT.

[@JayCraftTV]

It’s actually impossible to beat out Hakeem for DPOY without being HIM on D.

[@conchobar]

Hakeem got robbed plain and simple.

[@iluvcakes19]

​@@conchobarplease stop the 🧢

[@JayCraftTV]

@@conchobarLet’s pretend that’s true. You know how great you have to be the way Hakeem Numbers was?

[@angahbg9089]

​@@JayCraftTVnahh MJ wasnt the DPOY that season. It was Hakeem

[@bodaavatar1790]

Hakeem was out there snatching $hit out the air floaters and all a gorilla on that D.

[@pickyourfaceup384]

He was DPOY before PIPPEN. Stop the cap.

[@kennethscott621]

Scotty Pittman overshadowed by Michael Jordan prasanna Scottie Pippen play all the tough offensive players

[@demetriussmith9234]

Scottie is still the better defender

[@remyjanus2385]

Who on that panel has won that

[@dparks2856]

Uh scottie was there whe he won DPOY

[@demetriussmith9234]

@@remyjanus2385 it doesn’t matter who on the panel won dpoy they still played in the nba. And some was on the team of the guy they are talking about

[@playmaker2121]

Gilbert sounds like a dam fool. Everything he just described that’s his guy lbj. Didn’t MJ guard Drexler, magic, Dumars, it didn’t freaking matter.

[@corneliusmickens110]

They had to take him off magic and put pippen on him to stop magic

[@DarrellHardy-p8q]

Thats false bro... MJ gaurded Magic in games 1, 3, 4 and 5... Pippen gaurded Magic in game 2 after MJ picked up 2 early fouls​@corneliusmickens110

[@lamefart]

Guarded James Worthy and Divac in the finals too. Shit he was effective! 😆

[@lamefart]

​@@corneliusmickens110that's bullshit. It was 1 game because he was foul trouble early. He switched to Divac and Worthy and he was more effective than Pip on that end. Watch the whole series. He locked down Magic in game 3 esp in overtime. Pip was already fouled out. Magic in OT? 0 points 0 rebounds 0 assists. 😆

[@FamousOriginalSlim]

people keep talking about Jordan getting crossed by Iverson based on one play they've seen 1000 times.

[@RoseBall-cv1bs]

right one lil cross and all of sudden he a overrated defender this the NBA anybody can get it.

[@Muzicboy3]

Ain’t that crazy, you take anybody that is considered to be a great defender and you telling me they ain’t never got a move put on them and then jay’d? … get real… I guess players that get dunked on ain’t good defenders then either…

[@penkima4923]

The people who know, have that crossover as a testament of how good MJ was on defense. Next to no other defender can still contest that A.I.'s shot after a crossover like that, but MJ. The people who don't know, like Gil, have that crossover as a testament of how supposedly overrated MJ's defense is. Because it's the only defensive play they've seen from MJ.

[@ryanr20091]

Labradford smith barbecued jordan ass so did grant hill penny hardaway . you youngins just go by what others tell you about jordon like he was superman on defense locking up the best players and you just accepted the myths

[@penkima4923]

@@ryanr20091 "Labradford smith barbecued jordan ass so did grant hill penny hardaway" Jordan for the most part didn't defend any of these guys. If Pippen got into foul trouble, then MJ would take over, and defend Grant Hill. Both Grant Hill and Penny played exceptionally good offense versus Jordan, the possessions they were matched up. But Jordan was the one doing the torching on the offensive end. "like he was superman on defense locking up the best players and you just accepted the myths" He is one of the best defensive players ever. I wouldn't say he's the absolute best defender ever. But overall he's one of the closest things to superman we've seen.

[@mobccr]

This whole panel shouldn’t be allowed to talk about basketball anymore 😂

[@Realest1ne]

And then the whole Iverson thing, A.I. even said himself that MJ almost recovered on that.

[@ivanduvok]

It's clear even from the video (but AI did chew dat ah though)

[@bdklaceup]

No one recovered from that better than MJ…a few seconds earlier MJ could have got that block but unfortunately didn’t but he didn’t get humiliated like other players did by AI

[@lamefart]

Couldn't repeat that the next time they met. Older MJ but still he got it ​@@bdklaceup kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoCTZZx3ZrWUmc0

[@lamefart]

AI couldn't cross him the next time... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoCTZZx3ZrWUmc0

[@isaiahmiles1569]

The one time on video he got shook and it’s the end of Jordan being a great defender? This podcast is hilariously bad. They say anything to hate on Jordan

[@jmar5127]

The fact Gil doesn't know that Pip was actually the great help defender while takings charges shows how little he knows about that era. Mj wasnt a net defender. Wtf! 😅

[@rjcrazy16]

no you’re wrong bro rewatch there playoffs popped always guarded the best on the team

[@rjcrazy16]

pippen*

[@bliveshere3876]

​@rjcrazy16 which playoff series? Just looking at the finals for example that was not the case. Jordan guarded Magic for the vast majority of that series, he guarded Clyde, he guarded Gary Payton. Pippen was not guarding Barkley or Karl Malone the vast majority of the time.

[@Bigten414]

Why the hell is this generation making up this mess is unbelievable!! So how the hell did he win all these chips and who was shutting him down and how all of a sudden nobody could play in the 80s and 90s this is insane

[@MrMakemusicmike]

they stoopid.

[@semajmurphy8969]

Scottie never started a game his rookie year but he made MJ?

[@wbrown7965]

Mj didn't win until pippen became a stater tho 😂

[@TheRealHillsideHitta]

@@wbrown7965lol wtf does that have to do with Jordan being a great defender 😂 ofc you not gonna win without a solid player n defense being played there’s no team that won with just straight offense n no defense 💯😂 especially not from the wings you can’t just score n not be able to defend your basket there’d be no point n before you say gsw they were also leading the league in defensive win shares n had the dpoy and steals leader and a great wing defender Klay Thompson n kd played d when needed n had boogie cousins or Javale stop tryna diminish Jordan cause the more you diminish Jordan the more you diminish other greats 💯

[@realtalkfbs]

Sheed talk down on everybody he didn't play with. 9 times all Defensive team but he wasn't all that. SMH cmon man!

[@carltonrudolph]

Dop wtf

[@realtalkfbs]

@@carltonrudolph right! Lead league in steals and top 10 in blocks that year. Fuck is these dudes on??

[@Bestbiggsy]

I feel like Rasheed view might be influenced by playing against 40 year old mj when he was on wizards, not ever having played against prime mj

[@TOKYO9AIN]

Name 10 sgs in that era without naming Jordan … those are the people he beat out for all defensive at his position. If you have no comp at the sg position (which he didn’t because it was a big man era ) your goin to win it by default. And cuz the nba was failing so they were tryin to sell Jordan

[@tonth1383]

​@@TOKYO9AIN Reggie Miller, Clyde Drexler, Mitch Richmond, Byron Scott, Ron Harper, Vernon Maxwell, john starks and joe dumars( that's eight off the top of my head) to name a few.

[@PeePeeMilk]

MJ is the only player ever to have over 3000 points 200 steals and over a 100 blocks in 1 season.

[@markjones2518]

Who was he guarding

[@spke532]

@@markjones2518 pro ball players. u r a clown

[@rolandocedillo5685]

​@@markjones2518hall of fame players. It was the 80s dummy not 1950 plumbers 😂

[@rolandocedillo5685]

80s athletes are still the most iconic and famous and considered the greatest.

[@rondosmith9884]

How many steals & blocks does Scottie have? Probably less then Jordan but still nobody will say Jordan's a better defender

[@wright542]

Grayson Allen??? Plzz Jordan would’ve been watching someone like Bradley Beal..this take was so disrespectful and Jennings definitely lost my respect by disrespecting MJ like that

[@antoniodavis4844]

Bj basketball I.Q. is low

[@dww4114]

I literally almost spit my food out after hearing this take.. and this is flat out ridiculous I mean why is this even a question? The disrespect Kobe and Jordan gets now days is crazy

[@rodneybanner1589]

How is it disrespect ¿??? But if Gil was to say he's the greatest of all time he knows what he talking about

[@TA-ht4jo]

@@rodneybanner1589 Gil explained what he meant in this video. The problem is that 90% of folks commenting won't watch the video because the attention span of folks in this era is shorter than 5 seconds. So they're going to run with the headlines and come to stupid conclusions and make stupid takes in the comment section. Gil understand this and took full advantage of it.

[@TA-ht4jo]

The conclusion if you watched the video was MJ was a great defender. The video title was just to get clicks and comments.

[@khleung1306]

From this take you can clearly tell Gilbert never actually watch the games in the 90s, he just tell you that he did and make up stuff to support his own narrative by using stats subjectively

[@thedangerwich5476]

The fact that Brandon didn’t mention Scottie once when talking about defenders he would take advice from first before Mike is bugging the hell out of me.

[@ektran4205]

pippen is more of a complete defender the mj is

[@Muzicboy3]

😂😂😂

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@ektran4205ofc thats really his job but Jordan is still a great defender people be cappin these days lol

[@nialljohn510]

Not a mJ fan but wtf are theses guys on Jordan 1 of if not the best 2way guard we’ve seen like a kawhi

[@mikeillgaming4224]

🙏 man all they have to do is bring up kawhi and there would be no convo kawhi is the closest thing to Jordan I’ve seen besides Kobe and he’s a elite defender

[@mellzworld5433]

MJ has a defensive player of the year on his resume as well & multiple all NBA defensive teams as well...End of debate...

[@rollandcurtis874]

Not just any NBA Defensive Team….9-Time FIRST TEAM All-Defensive Team honors!!!!

[@daa_97]

Marc gasol got a dpoty and made all defensive 2nd team 😂 these media awards are a popularity contest

[@jamesmiller6294]

For that time he was a good defender but he wasn’t really good like Gary Payton

[@randysalinas5388]

They literally just broke down how that’s a sham pippin carried defensively and not having to guard all the way from the 3

[@chrisrobinson8339]

​@@daa_97 no it's not. a lot of people want that award and don't get it.

[@kareemlyons3761]

He was basically saying nobody from the 80s and the 90s could dribble you had Penny Hardaway Ron Strickland Mitch Richmond John Starks

[@kentcashjr8178]

How is somebody not a great defender and they have a defensive player of the year award, made first team all defense and top five in steals in history?

[@NoSpinster0909]

Easily

[@ryanr20091]

use your brain instead of just listening to what other tell you watch the best defensive players from that era Hakeem was always better than Jordon so the fact the league gave Jordon award tells those awards are based on popularity and not merit.

[@ChristianBlackmore]

Gil, known for never playing defense trying to judge defenders just makes 0 sense.

[@GreatDragonOfDragoria]

WTF ARE YALL TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YALL DONE IN YALL CAREER TO EVEN JUDGE JORDAN…..IN THE WORDS OF KATT WILLIAMS …. WE WILL NOT ALLOW LOSERS TO REWRITE HISTORY

[@imaginethat3026]

facts😊

[@Musthave23]

these comments are CRAZY and Gill just lost so much credibility !!! 9X All Defence team, led the NBA in steals and broke the record for most blocks by a guard

[@dominicdarmanin9866]

Found it surprising when a pro hooper said “I didn’t watch enough of MJ to determine if he was a great defender”. Would have thought every pro has at least watched every playoff series he played in.

[@kareemlyons3761]

Facts

[@jonathanchan1365]

well everyone is human, so there will be some or even lost of nba players dont watch past films, matas buzelis, i think he said most players dont watch film (his interview with kevin o'conner)

[@jonathanchan1365]

plus they are earning millions, stuff to do and kids to take care of and practice and gym

[@dominicdarmanin9866]

@@jonathanchan1365true, but this isn’t just “some players”. These are podcasters who debate and discuss past and current topics, as well as being NBA/WNBA players and fanatics. You would suspect they would have some clue about the GOAT’s ability on defence which won him 9x All defensive team awards and 1x Defensive Player award. Just surprising is all when we fans know these things.

[@lcasanova2546]

I IMMEDIATELY FLASHED BACK TO THAT CRITICAL DEFENSIVE PLAY IN 98 WEN MJ RIPPED KITTLES FOR THAT DUNK ON KENDALL GILL😂

[@mjsup1]

Gill is wrong on this one, Mike was D ing up in 87 before Scotty, Jordan was a great on the ball defender early in his career then became the free safety. His numbers from his defensive player of the year were close to the year before, the the team defense sucked it got better when Scotty came.

[@corneliusmickens110]

Zeke use to kill him off the dribble but he use to do that everyone off the dribble

[@mjsup1]

@@corneliusmickens110 Zeke was a bad man, people don't know but he had an elite offensive package.

[@corneliusmickens110]

@mjsup1 true that and had the best handles in the league back then

[@ramessu360]

Jordan is a former defensive player of the year & 9x 1st team all-defensive, I'm from Chicago and saw him put in that work, he was the black cat on both ends of the floor anybody in doubt go back and watch the Bulls regular season and especially the championship playoff games.

[@Eyevan119]

Kids plz dnt listen to thr cap .. watch & learn for yourself. They should be a shame

[@benbirrd788]

Mj was better at guarding Grant than Scottie. Mj was more handsie/ Scottie used his body more so naturally, but Grant was almost as strong as Scottie so he gave him problems. Obviously Scottie did better with Magic. Styles make good/bad match ups.

[@justinroussel3784]

Even the Magic thing is cap, Pippen guarded Magic the second half of game 2 and did well, he started on him in game 3 and Magic had made the adjustment and was cooking him. MJ guarded Magic the bulk of the series.

[@justinroussel3784]

To your point, this is a 35 year old MJ locking down a 25 year old Grant Hill in 98 because they had to switch MJ on him after he was beating Pippen consistently in this game kzbin.info/www/bejne/rny5gWirm9CGp80si=R64MNAW2IbiNi8eq

[@shamwaw336]

Agreed, matchups make or break 1v1 defense. Both MJ and Scottie were elite but were best against different players. For Grant Hill, though, it was more on speed. Both MJ and Scottie get blown by, but it is Jordan who is quick enough to recover and prevent Grant from easy layups. Jordan can contest Grant's shots due to size but Grant isn't comfortable scoring in traffic, so a contest or making him score 8ft away was enough to slow him down

[@shamwaw336]

​@justinroussel3784 that is not true, much of the adjustment was Magic showing he can score on Scottie which the Bulls wanted. Scottie's defense on Magic wasn't to lock him down but to stop bulls players from sagging off. MJ does good defense but he is too small and makes it easy for Magic to get a good look in the paint which cause other bulls players to help and lead to an open shot for others. The game plan is to prevent magic's best offense, aka his passing

[@justinroussel3784]

@@shamwaw336 actually what happened was switching to Pippen on magic caused matchup problems. The only person Paxson could guard was Byron Scott, when Pip moved to Magic that meant Horace had to guard Worthy and Cartwright guarded Sam Perkins, they put MJ on Divac but he was 7 feet tall and they just played 2 man basketball with Magic and Divac and were scoring too easy. From the 2nd half of Game 3 on MJ guarded Magic most of the time. Games are on KZbin to watch

[@dikoshyne]

This is getting ridiculous, not everyone needs a platform.

[@joshuadixon6255]

Whenever you say something is fact, you can’t back it up by saying “because I feel”. Feelings aren’t facts

[@penkima4923]

It means in their opinion. It is backing up, but sometimes you need to back up.

[@kkrmzn]

Remember you should be watching this for pure entertainment. If you are watching this for a serious analysis then you're at the wrong place. Just because these guy's played at the pro level doesn't mean they cant be clueless.

[@Tek1014media]

99% of niqqas on KZbin is clueless

[@DATGUY144]

Yih didn’t even watch jordan growing up stfu yiy was too young

[@jeromejohnson25]

Best reply

[@TOKYO9AIN]

But you want us to believe you ?

[@penkima4923]

@@TOKYO9AIN Him, and the gazillion people who disagree with Gil.

[@spaceghostp6672]

Lexi.. how would he be elite in that era and NOT in this one? Lmfao

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Bruh!!!

[@Milt-g4f]

The players are more skilled and with range.

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

​@@Milt-g4fas if Jordan didn't have athleticism😂? Bron got bothered by JJ Barrera and Jason Terry,but Jordan would have problems😂

[@spaceghostp6672]

@@Milt-g4fat DEFENSE?

[@Milt-g4f]

@@carbon.the.christ5626 Stop spreading that false narrative. Lebron played a bad "floor" game similar to Magic in 84. No excuse for that but bad series and games happen. Mike played subpar in 2 of his last 3 finals, but his team was good enough to overcome that. Kobe played bad or subpar in 4 finals including having his "Dallas" moment against the Pistons in 04. Jordan's only competition was Clyde Drexler and Reggie Miller. Ron Harper was traded to the clippers and blew out his knee, Mitch Richmond was a very very good scorer but wasn't much else. Jordan got to feast on John Starks, Craig Elohe, Randy Whittman, Byron Russell, Hersey Hawkins, Richard Dumas etc...

[@babyboi98]

Wait, this is coming from two guys that played NO DEFENSE…LMAO!!! 😂😂😂

[@mypeople1stwilliam]

Get Brandon Jennings off here. Jordan ended Utah with a strip that I didn’t see Rasheed make.

[@Dshipp25]

Based on gills logic of what players had moves in the 80 then nobody had defense I guess

[@sportsfantastic361]

Few players back then had a deep bag stop acting like u don’t know that esp at the guard position

[@eappleby9702]

Im an old head and my opinion is that you can't be an all time defender if you didn't play in this era. I can't judge you off of guarding Jeff Hornacek, Danny Ainge, Reggie Miller, Dominique and Clyde with no handles and John Starks

[@ocpalex]

I’m so sick of them doing things for views

[@rollandcurtis874]

This channel must have seen that they get their most clicks using Michael Jordan and his name in the title. They keep talking about a man that retired 21 years ago instead of the man who has played 21 years and NEVER WON ONE Defensive player of the Year award. The late great Kobe Bryant and decent LeBron James were only CANDIDATES for the Defensive Player of the Year Award aka the Hakeem Olajuwon Award. But Michael Jordan ACTUALLY WON the Defensive Player of the Year Award. Gilbert Arenas’ list of in-season NBA awards are about as long as the guy who sits next to him with the laptop (who doesn’t know a thing about basketball, except for what Google tells him). 🤷‍♂️

[@sportstalkonly1442]

Lebron was robbed of dpoy.

[@Milt-g4f]

No one ever thought Kobe was the best defender in basketball or was he a real threat to win dpoy. Btw for almost a decade Lebron was the best wing defender in the league.

[@Milt-g4f]

​@@sportstalkonly1442facts

[@Bubjohnson]

Exactly. I can’t remember the last time they praise MJ but that speaks of his greatness we’re in the middle of a NBA season they’re talking about a player that hasn’t played in 21 years😂😂 if he ain’t the goat why they always talking about him so much🤷🏾‍♂️

[@cmoneyno5]

​@@sportstalkonly1442LeBron 😂😂 he didn't get robbed... He shouldn't have been on any defensive team... LeBron had the same exact defensive rating as Kyle Korver and was rewarded with first team all defense 😂😂

[@DarrellHardy-p8q]

Jordan was a better defender than Pippen 💯💯💯 people online just make up false nonsense

[@3dtraining633]

Beal Book and Kd Harper Jordan and Pip so you mean to tell me that Jordan is going to say "I GOT GRAYSON " MAN PLEASE 😂.His competitive nature wouldn't even allow that if he wanted to

[@yoyoyonono6329]

All he guarded was Graysons in the 90s though. 😂

[@3dtraining633]

@yoyoyonono6329 Clyde, Reggie Mitch , JR Rider etc etc was Grayson level? STOP

[@yoyoyonono6329]

@3dtraining633 92 Clyde averaged 25 a game, played Jordan in the finals and averaged 25 a game. 98 Reggie averaged 19 😂, played Jordan in the conference finals and averaged 17.5. That's the best of the 90s give the other dudes Jordan had to face 😂. He ain't have to lock up nobody like that and the 1 or 2 dudes that were like that, they still got they average vs him.

[@3dtraining633]

@@yoyoyonono6329 Only 4 players(Kobe Mike GP and KG) got All 1st team defense 9x in NBA history. How can that be if you can't guard??

[@3dtraining633]

@yoyoyonono6329 Defensive Player of the Year but you can't play defense that good? Come on Brody it had to make sense lol. You can't just say anything cuz it sounds good.

[@RichardGelilioJr]

Michael Jordan is not a lokcdown defender. But he really was a menace in the passing lane, blocking shots, blind side defense help. When the bulls needed to lockdown the best player of the opposing team, they call Pippen.

[@cuzheavy4079]

No they didn't they actually took turns switching wearing the opponents down

[@Tanae19]

Gil on a mission to tear down MJ … despicable 😒

[@RoseBall-cv1bs]

might be getting paid to do it his hoe ass

[@leokizzo3515]

Brandon Jennings starting to become crazier than Rashad

[@bigtradestennis571]

BJ smoking too much weed. MJ not a good defender, boy please. Gilbert is Foolish but fun to listen to

[@clay1108]

MJ had 1 DPOY, had numerous runner ups for DPOY, had numerous top 5 in DPOY voting. Even his 1 full season with the Bulls when he was not on the all defense team (1st/2nd), he had 200 steals + 100 blocks, the first to ever do it. Stop capping

[@t-raw4316]

Gil reaching at stars for his daddy lebron

[@Tek1014media]

Everything is LeBron's fault 😂😂 this dude literally lives in y'all head 24-7

[@t-raw4316]

@@Tek1014media you’re so mad 🤣🤣🤣🤣 move along kiddo. Dont try and sit there and defensd gil selling his soul to lebron and rich paul. You make me laugh 😂 weirdos

[@taronbarnes]

MJ won DPOY when Scottie wad a rookie playing 20mpg. Gil bugging!!

[@Galactic123]

In baseball Derek Jeter kept winning Golden Gloves after he won one but every real baseball fan knows he was average at best defensively at the shortstop position. A-rod was MUCH better at shortstop but the Yankees refused to move Jeter out of there to the detriment of the team.

[@skineyemin4276]

Brandon Jennings has totally disqualified himself with his Jordan take.

[@jimmyfromseattle3227]

Lexie is a real one! She’s so honest and careful on how she says shit!

[@penkima4923]

After saying she didn't really watch MJ play, the honest thing would be to stop showing up to the show.

[@ralphwimberly3817]

As a person who does not rock with Jordan, but I know these two should never be asked any questions about MJ again. Please stick to what you know. Your statement about not knowing should have been enough.

[@jasonreyes5767]

Mj might be the best on ball defender ever

[@highdefwes3]

Definitely

[@illwill2survive]

Based on what? I think Gil makes a great point. Most of his best defensive plays we see footage for are help side. Calling him the best on ball defender, I’m curious to know what led to that conclusion

[@jasonreyes5767]

@@illwill2survive easy leading the league in scoring and always covering the other teams best offensive weapon night in night out the energy and effort he put in to dominating he really made legends look like barely all stars

[@grindharddall5376]

Kawhi definitely better on defense

[@jasonreyes5767]

@@grindharddall5376 leonards amazing on defense best ever gaurding prime lebron but i still got mj just me though

[@badcomment6353]

look at the last dance clip on how he stood his ground in the post against Mason. feet balanced, ball denial and anticipation. the pacer series where he was telling Phil that he ain't switching. that's tenacity, that's what great defensive players have

[@collllllll]

01:25 This chick talks about MJ not being a high IQ guy 😂😂😂 that's like me talking about MJ

[@reginaldpittman8374]

Dumb right she dumb as rocks. Wasn't even around when he played. Looking at highlights then say that.

[@dapo09]

That's like a high school dropout talking about Albert Einstein

[@Dipset415]

Gil lying😭Jordan was in his 30’s getting crossed by dudes in there early 20’s💯young Jordan was a great on ball and off ball defender 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@DATGUY144]

On ball ? Who tf was he guarding ? Like Gil said wen pointvguards that could actually score or 2 guards jordan got his ads busted

[@pickyourfaceup384]

​@DATGUY144 stop it. You couldn't guard anyone in the NBA any year he played.

[@DATGUY144]

@@pickyourfaceup384 exactlybstupid statement answer the question frfr tho

[@Muzicboy3]

I’m pretty sure MJ is guarding Beal … pippen guarding KD and Ron Harper guarding Book

[@starscream8Life]

Brandon Jennings talking about defense is like learning anger management from Draymond Green.

[@laterrianhall9921]

Lol😂😂😂😂

[@penkima4923]

You don't know, so you decided to guess. Brandon wasn't a bad defender.

[@godlyman6781]

Sometimes I think the attempt to demise Jordan is so over the top that they stop making sense.. MJ played in the area where the best players played each other.. Scottie Pippen wasn't there when he won defensive player of the year and offensive player the year.. I advise Gilbert to go back watch Jordan early years.. He took the best offensive

[@sstelevision6376]

Jordan was such a great defender that despite the fact great offensive players' defense is generally overlooked, even when it's good, Jordan was still acknowledged consistently for his. It's so nasty that people can't try to big up the next generations of players without trying to discredit the previous ones. It's funny though because these conversations just expose who didn't really study the game. If you want to save yourself some embarrassment though, stop trying to rewrite history.

[@th3realryguyNY]

Holy shit this has turned into the sports version of foxnews.

[@denim5667]

jordan wasn’t an elite on ball defender. he was good , great even, but not ELITE. where he was most impactful as a defender was as a weak side/help defender; basically as a team defender. at the time, on ball defense wasn’t as needed as off ball defender so, truthfully, jordan never needed to be an elite on ball defender to be as dominant as he was on that side of the ball. jordan was an amazing defender, he just wasn’t an elite on ball defender. i think that was Wallace’s opinion

[@petiteverdot6673]

Have you guys noticed how there is this new wave of podcasters who have not achieve their potential in their old career, but now they get to talk in front of a mic and discredit the achievements of their peers who reached their full potential. Beside Shaq in inside the nba, how many top 10-20 players, do you see podcasting?? MJ has let his game talked for itself, so is Bill, Kobe, Magic, Bird, The dr, Kareem, Wilt, West, Oscar, etc... But it's always the mediocre players discussing and throwing shades at the greatest. IDK WHY

[@FerrellScott-v3u]

Anyone who says MJ wasn't elite defensively, knows nothing about the game. The facts speak for themselves.

[@MagicEmpireTV]

Michael Jordan Outscored 982 of the 983 Opponents He Played Against . The only player who outscored Jordan was Allen Iverson. In Michael Jordans 37 playoff series, he faced 269 different players. He outscored 268 of them. The only player to ever outscore MJ in a series was Terry Cummings, who did it by a single point in MJ's rookie year by avging 29.5ppg

[@ladjikourouma6475]

I don’t know why this is even a question… he won Dpoy and was 9 all defensive team. Not to mention look at what he did to win his last championship, he stole the ball from Karl Malone and hit the game winning shot to win his 6th title…. Like cmon y’all better stop playing

[@rayshaunedwards6572]

As a Jordan guy this why I say mj fans are worse than lebron fans and laugh at Jordan fans throwing insults on lebron fans. Jordan was a good defender he wasn’t great. Everything Gil said about Jordan was how a.i. played defense and no one says a.i. was an elite defender. Sheed is speaking facts when Jordan tried guarding the legends of then he got torched. Yes elite players gonna score regardless but that’s when shooting percentage matters.

[@penkima4923]

"As a Jordan guy" You're a LeBron stan. "laugh at Jordan fans throwing insults on lebron fans." You would laugh at those insults on the comment thread of a video featuring LeBron. But it doesn't happen, so you come here to make stuff up. "Jordan was a good defender he wasn’t great." You say these things without arguments, and that's is why everyone hates you LeBron stans. "Everything Gil said about Jordan was how a.i. played defense and no one says a.i. was an elite defender." How many times are you reaching there, in one go. Three? Four? "Sheed is speaking facts when Jordan tried guarding the legends of then he got torched. Yes elite players gonna score regardless but that’s when shooting percentage matters." Jordan did get torched. Those occasions are few and far between. You have no idea when they happened, so don't talk on the subject.

[@mariuscoleman9419]

Go watch the finals against the Blazers in 92, he's guarding Clyde drexler

[@jackflashh2240]

I’m the BIGGEST Bron fan… but come on mane, shit like this is what make me not take people opinions serious… Better defender than Bron I KNOW but Bron is more versatile, people trying to down 1 player for the other is BULLSHIT

[@be7ue]

this is wild. why do i keep watching lol

[@HotGritz910]

It's interesting to see people trying to find holes in MJ's game. It's a fools errand even if there is merit. That dude is god to most.

[@SW33T_Dr34M]

It’s crazy to listen to non-defenders talk about who’s good or great at defending. Nan one of them dudes on the coach was a good defender 🗑️

[@lajuanehall]

MJ was not a great on ball defender. That’s why he always had trouble with athletic guards. Pip defended the athletes which freed up Mike to get backside steals and blocks.

[@DarrellHardy-p8q]

Lmfao.... Jordan almost always gaurded the best player 💯💯💯 I'm so tired of these false narratives and people making shit up

[@Jireh1920]

Why put that lady over there when she don't know anything?

[@lawanwashington1655]

THIS IS THE DUMBEST EXAMPLES IVE EVER HEARD.. SO FORGET THE 200 BLOCKS and 200 STEALS AND THE DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.. HE WOULD GUARD GRASON ALLEN? That makes zero sense

[@mstells]

Show ain't the same when McCants ain't there, I know damn well he would've called cap‼️