Swaggy P's INSANE Jokic Take Gets Him BANNED From Gil's Arena

[@Enyalus87]

Jokic is averaging a 30 point triple double. Nuggets offensive rating with him on the floor is about 120, and without him it's 98.5. They're an awful team, and Jokic is the only reason they're a playoff contender. If we're talking most VALUABLE player, there is no one in the league more valuable. And there's nobody who can do what he does. Have Tatum trade places with Jokic and see how successful the Celtics and Nuggets are.

[@phillips-wardfamily5103]

Crazy how this same argument was used for Lebron and folks was completely against it. But this is facts. He’s a monster.

[@jobbrown7847]

THIS

[@pgotsmokeforreal9689]

Yea that team looks really bad with no joker. Clear MVP rn

[@hiimfred9879]

@@phillips-wardfamily5103let them know

[@TheBaller3213]

Here is the problem with that argument when they finished 6th and gave him the MVP if you used that same argument it wouldn't hold. No MURRAY PORTER was hurt it was his time to show that he was all world and they finished 6th and his numbers weren't better than. GIANNIS EMBIID or a few others so we can't have it both ways

[@wadeh8418]

If Jokic was black and not from Serbia, everyone would love him and there would be no debate lol. He would have got the MVP over Embiid too. Swaggy probably thinks Angel Reese is better than Caitlin Clark too. 🤣

[@jobjg5900]

Everyone that is not a part of the marxist victim mentality does love him.

[@DeeDawg314]

Jokic’s second MVP was Embiid’s. Nothing to do with color just goofy ass voters. Also, no one thinks Reese is better than Clark, that narrative stopped at the WNBA all star game

[@bobbye7353]

​@@DeeDawg314 if the the colors were reversed, your opinion would be too

[@stvrkx]

100% if he was black they would all be glazing ..

[@bobbye7353]

@@stvrkx they'd all be deep throating bananas talking about "we wuz kangz" and stuff like that

[@5lime9ordo]

😂 we've gotten to the point where we are annoyed by a player being this good

[@TheBlackSage7]

Not exactly. Swaggy just saying why is everyone rushing to give Joker the mvp? Is he reserving of it? Yes but so were other players in the past but we found excuses to not give them the mvp but somehow we're not doing that for Joker.

[@dionsmith3427]

​@TheBlackSage7 They have done it to Joker though 😩

[@tommieblessed5890]

*European player*

[@edfgc]

I started watching the nba in 2011 and even in the prime lebron years i think there used to be players in a similar level that lebron, but in this years nobady are close to jokic level plus he plays in the west (im not saying prime jokic its better than lebron its just there are not múltiple mvp players in these recent years that compete with jokic) @@TheBlackSage7

[@Louisianimal-225EBR]

@@tommieblessed5890y’all insecurities craxy 😂😂😂 but entertaining to read

[@TheMajesticGG]

It sucks that people hate Jokic because he's white

[@delmar818]

But they’re “incapable” of racism

[@Cypballeroz]

Its not beacuse hes white its because of the way he treats the game

[@okaybones]

Literally

[@Deac-wn8vn]

No one hates him because he's white. Stop projecting

[@alexnather7614]

ngl gilbert arenas was better than swaggy ever was...

[@jakekajkut5651]

Joker almost bit all USA at olimpic by himself

[@TRENTBLOVE30]

Then they called the phantom 3rd on him which led to the 4th, which is when Embiid could finally attack him

[@NykNothinElse]

So he didn’t win is what you’re saying

[@sz3231]

@@NykNothinElseyeah he couldn’t beat the US superstars by himself, what’s your point?

[@SCHMUNKERS]

@@NykNothinElse yeah pretty sure prime lebron and jordan couldn't carry against that team and jokic almost did it, that's what he's saying.

[@ahmedbadreddinemoucouf3662]

@@NykNothinElse your head is def squared xD

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Joker is the only Superstar who has the lowest time of possession. Trust me if joker wanted to put up even more monster stats, he would. But it's not his play style. He just gets tripped a doubles accidentally

[@wordonthestreetpodcast5472]

Bro is literally a monster 😭 and it’s clear every game that he’s the best player on the floor if u have two eyes. He controls the entire game. And actually won a chip so any hate he gets is weird. Folks the best big since shaq and in terms of talent kareem

[@badxgrass]

ACCIDENTALLY??? DO YOU NOT WATCH GAMES?!?

[@amai-w8f]

So him not hogging up the ball and STILL having insane stats is supposed to be something bad ? yall coming out with the wildest excuses to hate on him because of his skin color LMAO

[@jlindsey8821]

I would argue that this is his game and his IQ wouldn’t allow him to attempt to be more productive on a regular basis.

[@malikwilson7387]

​@@wordonthestreetpodcast5472jokic is a stat padder

[@trevonwalker7671]

Everybody start minding they business looking at the phone wen Kenyon and swaggy starts arguing 😭😭😭

[@jgard1168]

Bruh they let swaggy if Kenyon jumps on him no one is stepping in 😭😭😭😭🤣 and swaggy was so hurt 😭🤣

[@joebenson528]

I'd like to be a fly on the wall of the Clippers locker room when Kenyon and Nick Young were on the team.

[@breonmitchell2443]

Westbrook average triple double 3 yrs straight got 1 Mvp say he stat padding then when European do it its amazing 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀😂💀💀😂😂Nick speaking facts

[@clarencesmith467]

​​@@breonmitchell2443yeah it's in bedded in American society like if I wear beard I'm lazy and or dumb or thug or flashy but if a white guy has one they are distinguished and stoic 😅😂

[@SoIcyTrey]

cuz kenyon a bully. think he a og or some😂😂

[@flame1113]

You can tell nick hasn't seen a nuggets game/jokic game highlights. Jokic's dominance of the modern game is comparable to Shaq's of his day. Jokic just has a different way of dominating the game.

[@isaiahdillard4598]

Nah, Nick is a bitter race baiter.

[@newagain9964]

Nick the only one with a consistent argument tho

[@white.widow.ak47]

@@newagain9964 yeah consistenly stupid and hating

[@lolno6975]

​@@newagain9964 his argument is consistent because he only has 1 arguing point. And its a trash arguing point. Everyone else has multiple angles to argue for Jokic because hes THAT GOOD. Big difference

[@newagain9964]

@@lolno6975 cap. But if Nick was sharp he’d realize they were making his case for him. Jokic should not win MVP because there is a status qou.

[@Docsamadhi]

Swaggy always shading Joker. Dude is a certified snake.

[@alexnather7614]

ngl gilbert arenas was better than swaggy ever was...

[@aaronjoseph7635]

Nah Nick was trying to say multiple times that he didn’t want Jokic to have the MVP because he white. Nick don’t wanna admit that the best dude in the league is white that’s all this was.

[@AVAXII]

This is the first comment explaining what the issue really is.

[@yanyor5969]

And the other one that said “ go back home “

[@ironflyellis3817]

​That was a jokey compliment about how good Jokic is compared to the rest of the league. "Go home and give the rest of the league a chance". He likened it to when Wilt and Jordan dominated. Try listening again ​@yanyor5969

[@YerpDerp17]

And its not only that he is white, but he also isn't American. A lot of players somehow get so bothered by that, when its the Americans fault that the world has caught up, and in many ways, gotten better than Amrican players. As a 37 yr old American NBA fan, I have no issues with players outside of the US dominating. I just want to see good basketball, and in the past decade the American players have stagnated, while the world continues to get better.

[@newagain9964]

Nah. Nice try. Disinformation. Nick said there was precedent and a status qou for being shafted. And is it’s supposed to be broken because he white?

[@bigbraz]

Kenyon like, I'm in all white and going to happy hour after this dawg. Do not mess up my fit.

[@BobbyJones-s7p]

Nick wasn’t goin for that bully shit “ all you gotta do is buss a fckn move”😂😂😂

[@TruthJuice]

Thats from Kings of Comedy. Bernie Mac joke.

[@tigeryumyums9407]

@@TruthJuiceRIP Bernie. Nice to see him still getting flowers.

[@alexnather7614]

ngl gilbert arenas was better than swaggy ever was...

[@S.C.-wo8hq]

It wasn't stat padding for Russ. It's not for Joker. He is just insanely good.

[@maneplejz]

Actualy it was, i remember watching Steven Adams giving uncontested defensive REBOUNDs to Russ to have triple doubles

[@sleezyclips8068]

@@S.C.-wo8hq Russ would leave his man wide open in the corner to go stand under the rim and get rebounds while Adams cleared the paint for him. Blatant stat padding. Jokic seemed to intentionally avoid averaging a TD in 2023. It’s not the same.

[@dirtyface-capone7622]

Russ is one of the best stat merchants of all time.His yeams go nowhere because his stat chasing is actually not conducive to winning at a high level.It's a manipulation of the game.Jokic stats come because he actually has to do everything for his team to win.Not only that, the results are more effective because his team.has actually won at the highest level.Jokic passes the stat & eye test.Russ always failed the eye test imo.

[@kylerfox7177]

@@dirtyface-capone7622Westbrook’s stat-padded rebounds were actually beneficial to his team. Having your transition initiator get the ball in his hands directly off the rebound is really valuable. If Adams were grabbing those boards, he would just be passing the ball to Russ, taking more time to get out in transition.

[@BrightNights645]

@@kylerfox7177it did not benefit at all. Adams can rebound and pass to a running Russ with others on the break. Russ slowed it down by sitting for a rebound. That’s why Russ recorded 2 playoff wins in 4 years without KD

[@famouscriminals18]

This is sad because Nick was teammates with Jokic at one point. He averaged 2 points a game and was tweeting about his mental health issues. I can imagine Nick being bothered about Jokic not knowing he was a “celebrity” for dating Iggy Azalea. Then he has to see the same team that ended his career win a championship

[@dancart1995]

That nigga already has a championship

[@tylerbolis5137]

Wtf r u doing here. Go make some vids

[@jootpepet]

Damn Nick ended his career in Denver? I didnt even know he left LA lol

[@jameshorton3692]

Yeah nicks a hater and a clown bro

[@newagain9964]

All that doesn’t make Nick’s take wrong. U must be a serious jokic fan gurl to dig all that up. 😆

[@tb89117]

Nash, Jokic…I think we all know what he was trying to argue right?

[@adamm2787]

I had that same feeling.

[@MrThankman360]

Yup

[@kaekae1782]

Before Jokic like 2 white MVPs have won MVP in like 30 years since Bird. Are we really doing this? 😂😂😂

[@SarahNGeti]

He just hates that a "white" European is cooking everyday!

[@someguy2972]

@@kaekae1782 Yeah because David Stern phased the American whites out for a "global game"...

[@ptgenpai8537]

Funny thing is, the Nuggets have lost the last 2 games without Jokic to mid teams lol

[@djmill8000]

Also; the funny thing is, Jokic aint winning no chip without Murray, and would have been 1st round exit without him to

[@sammyhonerd677]

@@djmill8000 So you think Jokic wouldn't win a chip with any other PG in the league that has a similar contract to Murray's? Thank you for telling us you don't know anything about this sport lmao.

[@djmill8000]

@sammyhonerd677 na, Murray is the perfect archetype for Jokic

[@bondinho6114]

Jamal Murray is trash

[@AtmosphericAtmosphere]

@@djmill8000 So just like Jordan without pipen and Kukoc and rodman and LeBron without Wade and Kyrie.So what is your point boy?

[@gogigrk5211]

A center leading rebounds and assists!!!!! And effortless!!!

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

They don’t understand that.

[@CinHalCedHerChance]

...and lowest possession time.

[@gost3480]

effortlessLY

[@SummerAwe99]

he basically plays PG calm down

[@albertdaley9093]

​@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mruss was doin that nearly 5 yrs in row no fmvp stop it 😂😂 russ leads trip doubles its cuzz he yt stoop

[@nathanr2841]

It’s not raw stats alone, advanced stats show that he is shattering records in all advanced categories

[@MmaMadman85]

The problem with Swaggy P's take about Westbrook and Harden is that neither of them have been the driving force behind a championship winning team like Jokic was.

[@SI-cd7xs]

and they played on far more talented teams too

[@DP-gb8qu]

Those teams were not more talented 😂😂 nugget fans are so slow joker won 1 ring given the right set of circumstances how many conference finals in a row did they go too since there so championship bound

[@DP-gb8qu]

Aaron Gordon was leading scorer for a franchise porter and Jamal get buckets to say they not talented oh my lord it’s the worst take ever bunch of talented guys that know their role learn basketball

[@andrewmichieli1760]

@@DP-gb8quabsolutely they were

[@BlancoDasMe]

Straight up and down! Nothing else should be said!

[@franciscoarroyo9402]

Jokic is the reason why Lebron is putting in over 20 years in, all his stats will not mean much in a few years.

[@BluJae93]

Joker is a big and he doesn’t even try during the regular season and he doesn’t miss games. When was the last time he was hurt? It makes it hard to argue against him

[@kevonwilliams2799]

He’s injured right now lol

[@gerrycrisandy2425]

@@kevonwilliams2799second child due, not injured

[@kevonwilliams2799]

@ ahhh gotcha

[@calebstephan2083]

​@@kevonwilliams2799he isnt injured. He took a leave because his wife gave birth. He literally has never sat out a game because of injury. When he has missed game he usually only misses 1 or 2 games a season and its not because of iniury. Its because of family commitments.

[@kevonwilliams2799]

@@calebstephan2083 respect the info I didn’t know that. I just seen he hasn’t played two games and did a quick google search but not in-depth to know he just had a child.

[@hawanyamomahmath1489]

See Gil will say that the league made it easier for the euro players but then turn around and do this 😂😂got damn

[@rodscott7360]

Nope

[@ayjeemusic4528]

Jokic is so obviously the best player rn even he knows you just look dumb tryna argue for someone else

[@hawanyamomahmath1489]

@@ayjeemusic4528 I never said he wasn’t the best right

[@gost3480]

@@hawanyamomahmath1489 Interesting how you started the discussion about what Gil said, and now you are replying with "I never said"... Umm... wasn't this about Gil?

[@hawanyamomahmath1489]

@@gost3480 wtf my whole statement matter 😂it’s called context, context to what I’m referring to with what HE SAID IN THE PAST you dumb 🫏 😂😂

[@334ben10]

IMO the phrase “stat padding” is one of the things fans just don’t understand. Playing to win, having to do everything for a team is NOT stat padding, if either Jokic or Russ dont do what they’re doing(or was doing for Russ) and lose people still would complain and say “they should have tried harder”🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂

[@lou.fortune]

the stat padding narrative for russ comes from the rebounds he took from his mates (understand it starts the break faster) but more the bail out assists at the last seconds

[@leroyflex1258]

@@lou.fortuneyou don’t think joker not letting his two pg get assists isn’t viewed the same? Both having career lows in assist.

[@11bornrich]

@@leroyflex1258 If you watch the way Jokic gets assits, it's not "taking" from the PGs, he's literally finding open guys when defenses double and finds his teammates easy buckets on cuts or crazy finds that most PGs in the league would never spot vs Russ literally reacting and being tight about his teammates grabbing a rebound costing him a triple double bro

[@334ben10]

@@lou.fortune being aggressive rebounding isn’t stat padding and when talking about Russ is the only time you hear about “bailout assist”

[@334ben10]

@@11bornrich post one clip of Russ being mad at someone for grabbing a rebound🤣🤣 yall are LITERALLY making your own history of the game to talk about.

[@dudemynameisdebo]

If Jokic was black yall would say he’s the new Goat let’s be honest here. Stop the hate.

[@ryannelson2653]

Nikola Jokic is the clear best player in the league. He has a 67% True shooting percentage and 52% assist percentage. One of the best defensive rebounders in the league and consistently has very good steal and block percentages. Any other opinion is wrong!

[@princek6778]

Jokic was never close to the best player

[@eddieaustin726]

You know deep down he fucking sucks and just has a coach that never takes him out and makes every play revolve around him. No talent no athleticism no anything except fat as hell and passes the ball like any human being to have two arms.

[@Giuseppe_f1n]

@@princek6778 Ok Princek

[@dadisajo9]

By far the best LOL​@@princek6778

[@Oba7]

No he is not.

[@dewdesi]

The sellout brotha line had me crying😂😂😂😂😂

[@mob7640]

😂😂😂

[@Kwasi-kc5ej]

Russ was padding his rebounds by taking a few that were right there for the big. It's plenty of clips on this platform that'll show that. Joker can't pad his assists because his teammates still have to make shots. Russ was never accused of padding assists because it's damn near impossible. You can't spam alley oops. Guys don't always make the simple layups as we see time and time again. So Nick's argument has no foundation.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

And then they say they do that so like they can get a fast break. Bro, the ball travels faster than your feet. It's much better for your big to get the rebound and then outlet to you halfway through and start

[@ShaqBenji]

You can pad assist by passing up good/open shots to pass to a teammate in a attempt to get the assist like Donovan Mitchell the other night

[@Kwasi-kc5ej]

@@ShaqBenji they still have to make the shot. Even if it's a layup. It's not in your control like going to grab a rebound

[@Kwasi-kc5ej]

@@MindfulAttraction2.0 it actually drains the guard quicker of energy and it helps your big man get paid what he should. If your big average 11 rebound but Russ stealing 2 or 3 of his boards... Now he's going to get under valued because his numbers are down. Therefore causing tension amongst the team. Russ could've sustained more energy had he not been trying so hard to get them rebounds. He kind of let it go in Houston and that was the best version of Russ post MVP

[@CJ739]

@@Kwasi-kc5ej I mean the most important difference between Russ and Jokic isn't how they get trouble doubles, but their shooting efficiency. Jokic is arguably most efficient player in the league and Russ is arguably the least efficient player in the league. Jokic doesn't take dumb shots, 70% of russ's shots are dumb.

[@justtwizzey2429]

Nick Young is an example of what happens when Rashad gets in your head (Pause)

[@j.d.walker5678]

Brotha I'm sure your a Grown Man, you don't have to say Pause after saying

[@benjaminireland7096]

Nah Rashaad wouldnt have agreed with nick here

[@martiijn]

pause after that? really? you're an adult bruh

[@lolno6975]

Jokic holds the ball far less than basically every superstar in the league. Jokic is one of the rare players who, if they really wanted to, could do whatever they wanted but prioritise winning over everything

[@shawnmichaelsbellybuttonri9871]

The whole "Why is Joker the exception?" argument was killed when he didn't win his 3rd straight. The narrative stopped being about "is his season worthy enough to be an MVP" and it became about "is his season worthy enough to be a 3-time MVP" and he didn't get it. Also, we need to stop acting like triple doubles are all created equal. Jokic's percentages and efficiency are way higher than Russ's, and Russ is #2 all time in turnovers and many of those turnovers cost them games. I know everyone loves Russ, and I do too, he's one of my favorite players of all time, but we gotta stop letting affection get in the way of reality. Like, Russ has legit been caught chasing rebounds and his centers have given up rebounds FOR him lol. He's also been caught passing up on open shots to boost his assist numbers. It's almost like people don't actually watch the games anymore. There's a difference between having crazy stats and chasing crazy stats.

[@Chessbox09]

He was winning by a landslide that season until the race issue got brought up. The straw poll wasn't even close. He was going to win.

[@cameronmetz9933]

Yeah, Jokic’s IQ of basketball is on a completely different level, when it comes to playing offense. Then he’s got the effort and IQ to rebound effectively too, since he’s not athletic at all. There is certainly a noticeable difference between his play-style now and Russ’s play-style back then. It’s like Gilbert said, basketball really is too easy for that guy.

[@MG-np6wh]

There was a stat where it showed how the nuggets almost always win when he gets a triple double, his stats have a purpose

[@SuicideJones33]

this, one hundred percent

[@Youcankicktheball]

Jokic deserved it last year too stop this shai nosense, shai averaged the same numbers the year before, if anything chet is the one who made OKC work perfectly, he was the missing piece and they had the best record but they won 0 games more than denver lmao, can't use the record as argument when you don't even win 1 more game than jokic.

[@PrimoPete]

Also, OKC is stacked, even without Shai, they were pretty dominant. Otoh, without Jokic, Nuggets suck like Shaq's-toes. They be losin to mid teams without Joker, with him they're ranking in the top 3. Yes Joker is MVP.

[@tonyrobinson9775]

All you gotta do is bust a MF move Jack! 😂

[@dasmondhopkins4288]

Checked his ass back

[@JrobAlmighty]

Kenyon gave him that one as a courtesy to save face lol.

[@sayitoutloudchp]

Right. All that huffin and puffin

[@iiJaRhonNaDeS]

@@JrobAlmighty Nah Kenyon stay trying to punk somebody, he needed to get checked.

[@youngjuss-v7b]

@@iiJaRhonNaDeSfacts !

[@magic3383]

It's crazy to have spent your entire life involved in basketball and have this little understanding of the game. Joker is so much better than everyone else right now that it's almost hard to believe.

[@TheNyion912]

Obviously you don't understand

[@Chessbox09]

If he's so much better than everybody he wouldn't have blown a 3-2 lead in the playoffs last year and lost game 7 at home by largest comeback in game 7 history. He would also have multiple titles by now.

[@AdamMcnabb-g59]

@@Chessbox09that’s not how it works u can still be the best player but not have the best roster

[@joebenson528]

@@Chessbox09 Jokic averaged 29/12/8 at 52% despite being double and tripled teamed during the Timberwolves series. He can only carry the Nuggets so far. You should tell Jamal Murray and MPJ to make their open corner threes, then maybe next time Jokic will not lose the 3 assists per game that he would have averaged that series if his teammates made their field goals.

[@magic3383]

@@Chessbox09 Unfortunately he plays a team game, and the team he plays for is full of bums.

[@sog4eternity]

“we round up on this couch” 🗣️👏🏽 as y’all & anyone else should!

[@deepdirt]

5:53 “like why you still talking to him?” Lmaooo yo I feel like Kenyon gets increasingly more fed up with Swaggys shit each moment he has to spend with him and it cracks me up. K Mart so done with him 😂

[@tariqavilez2840]

7:07 brother knowledge 😂

[@jvo6ixgod269]

i literally just heard that shit 😭😭

[@karanshetty2530]

Giving Swaggy P screen time in itself is ridiculous 🤣

[@Stonecoldalston]

3:52 one difference is Jokic don’t dominate the ball as much as Russ did

[@cornellwhite6737]

you can’t get triple doubles and not dominate the ball bro. that’s not how it works. he getting the triple doubles because he’s dominating the ball clown.

[@dusttaker]

Jokic's time of possession of the ball is much lower than Russ when he did it. Jokic gets the same amount of touches but is more efficient in how he does more in less time with the ball.

[@kav961]

​@@dusttakerjoker is a BIGMAN hes not bringing up the ball. Tf yu talking bout possession

[@Riley_rolo]

Almost every play runs through jokic.

[@dusttaker]

@@kav961 DO YOU EVEN WATCH DENVER NUGGETS GAMES? JOKIC BRINGS THE BALL UP QUITE A BIT. Regardless the offense goes thru Jokic whether he brings the ball up or not. He leads the league in touches per game at 115.8 per game. Second is Jalen Johnson of ATL with 96.9 per game. But Jokic's time of possession is nowhere near the top like Luka and yet Jokic just does so much more with less time of possession. COMPRENDE?

[@smoothsinger422]

They DID accuse Joker of stat padding at first. Then he won a chip, and everyone changed their tune.

[@mihirchitnis905]

Without joker denver has lost the past 2 games against pelicans (without zion playing) and against Memphis ( without Ja playing). They seriously look like bottom of the barrel nba team without jokic on the court especially jamal and mpj.

[@keymikescott2308]

@@mihirchitnis905 that’s exactly how okc looked when they had Westbrook . When he ain’t play they were horrible

[@bartsplaylists]

Denver with Jokic is better than OKC with Russ. He is just more impactful and more efficient

[@xoHaj]

@@bartsplaylistsand denver without jokic is still WAY better then okc without russ🤣they literally had the worst win % in the league when russ didn’t play

[@td874]

​@@xoHajjok almost never miss a game that comparison doesnt work

[@timboshanghai6785]

@@xoHaj denver has a win % of 0 when jokic doesnt play, i wonder what could be worse

[@Sr.Princip]

Neither KB ,MJ or LJ had ever 30 ,14 and 12 ...not even Wilt

[@daydaay]

Dude the Denver buttegts are a jokic team somebody gonna score rebound bro . The team can’t even have 20 pts individually. Jokic has one chip so I’ll take lebron wilt

[@g5162]

Stats are cool, but he isn't the greatest player ever. Don't let them MVPs fool you

[@Sr.Princip]

@@g5162 At the end of his career he can /will be remembered as one of the greatest ever... He is 29 and has so many accolades,let me remind you there are players like Iverson ,Bakley who are legends and never even won one ring...or multiple MVPs...Joker trajectory looking good so far ..and he is quite good with national team Serbia ..and he still 29... Lebron won his first ring when he was 27,28 ...so..take it easy

[@daydaay]

@@Sr.Princip tell me you love your wh1t3 boy without telling me we’ll look about time somebody else makes a lil bit of noise . But there’s 90 players w more chips pts rebounds im just saying today day and age . It’s all about highlights reels

[@practiceyourart]

​@@Sr.PrincipWhat accolades does he have?

[@Almanacplanting-g6o]

It's obvious how much effort you put in!

[@bryan.flores]

The season that Russ averaged a triple double and DIDNT get the MVP he averaged *14.5% less* points, *26.3% less* rebounds, and *12.9% less* Assists than jokic is averaging right now and Jokic is also leading his team in *Steals* AND *Blocks*

[@TheRedConstituents.]

We know the underlying reason they don't want joker to get it. Let's be adults here.

[@PhilomenaMerritt-e5e]

You're incredible, don't stop creating content!

[@balltalkchannel1.026]

I saw this years ago , that he’d eventually average a triple double. I think he certainly does it this year, maybe can do it again also. Saw this coming. The points and rebounds come easy for him. The assist come easy bc he controls the offense and also at this point is the greatest passing big of all time. Undeniable at this point

[@11bornrich]

Kmart gotta cut out that Debo shit before someone accidentally puts hands and feet on him and the outcome ain't what he anticipated😂

[@sayitoutloudchp]

Preach

[@johnnybravo8027]

LMFAOOOOOOO nbs😂 he never ran into the right person, only thing a mf gotta do is kick him in his bad knees then beat tf outta him😂

[@tariqwilliams8968]

Who gon do it 😂 that man been on this earth along time it would’ve happened by now

[@dizzzy8062]

@@tariqwilliams8968nah he just knew p wasn’t gone check that

[@trvspvrk]

who gon be the one to do it? 6’9 250 it ain’t that many ppl who would step to him😭

[@ocben2184]

What I hate about the jokic argument is that people think just because he doesn’t dunk and run over everybody he isn’t the best player, that’s why Europeans have been making huge advancements in the game. They don’t focus on playing “pretty” jokic is unstoppable regardless of he gets two points laying the ball or jumping over everyone

[@GeekPlusGamer]

9:26 Brother knowledge calm before a hypothetical storm. Nick calming down and laughing was a smart move.

[@l.c2567]

Kenyon almost 50 year old ass is a whole clown for trying start a fight over a possible accidental coffee spill.

[@4363HASHMI]

Hopefully they shadow banned your comment so KMart doesn’t slap it in the face

[@ChapoRR]

Type a dude I’ll throw my coffee on and tell you do buss a muuve

[@TheMedicinalMan]

@@ChapoRRyou the type of dude who gets his ass beat on the regular 🤣

[@ChapoRR]

@ 😂😂 You the type of dude that wipe back to frint 😂

[@chrisshep45]

Pretty sure if he was in your presence you wouldn’t say that

[@styxxjones]

They didn’t just give David Robinson the Atlanta Hawks benched their starting 5 after they was told to by the league. It’s on KZbin look it up Dominque Wilkins tells this story.

[@newagain9964]

Cmon bruh. The NBA (nor NFL) front office doesn’t creates storylines and manipulate game outcomes. 🤣😂🤣😮‍💨🤣😂🥴

[@someguy2972]

The Spurs were playing the Clippers in his 71 point game...

[@mikethomas860]

Props to Swaggy P, he ain't backing down to Kenyon.

[@Teagod77]

The dumbest are often the most stubborn

[@Lilguwopkc]

Facts Nick actually had a solid point

[@BigLeann]

backing down for arguing nothing??.. he was underlying racism and wouldn't say the shit.

[@youngjuss-v7b]

@@Teagod77 he isn’t dumb though and didn’t say or do anything dumb…everyone’s a grown ass man no bully shit will be tolerated no matter the size

[@psalms4angel]

@@BigLeanncan we stop w this racism shxt? Y’all soft asl

[@filip1con]

Gil is speaking facts.. damn whats next, Klay Thopson being consistent?

[@Ymcdaj]

Mondays with swaggy and Kenyon are legendary 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dabu8701]

when russ did it he got bounced in first round three straight years. that's why they started to devalue his triple doubles jokic won a ring.

[@marseancaldwell]

And jokic probably won’t win it while he does it what’s your point really?

[@billydakid601]

But it's a regular season award...

[@dabu8701]

@@marseancaldwell nothing complicated about what I said. You win you get more hype

[@dabu8701]

@@billydakid601 true but we’ve seen players get that award, don’t have playoffs success and next year they don’t get love again. Harden embiid

[@zayytesla]

No no he asked why is jokic praised for his triple doubles it’s because it’s led too championships stop trying to move the goal post !!!!!

[@8hype]

Scoring 70 back in the day is not the same as scoring 70 in today's game is extra crazy coming from ex players is even wilder especially for players that didn't do it

[@ziginaigra]

it was never easier to score than now:)

[@bihapi]

Oldschool have good players but today is better just like how russian tanks lost to fvp drones and javelin 😂

[@ziginaigra]

@@bihapi they are not better today ,they just look better to you lol

[@bihapi]

@@ziginaigra nah oldschool looks sloppy. Its like hey im oldschool look at me ima tank build ima get you push like youre a thin paper. Then gets destroyed by weak quick drones

[@ziginaigra]

@@bihapi those drones are like cheaters in pubg lol now its easier to score/play,u cant play real defense because of rules,no centers,no physicality +paint is wide open...game is so different u cant even compare stats of 2 players from different eras

[@ethanbrown4628]

Also the difference between Westbrook and Jokić that they are being so densely obtuse is that Jokić is efficient and his team is actually winning. Outside of the actual MVP year which I personally don’t think should’ve gone to him. His teams were not winning. He was top of the league no doubt, but because of the role he was in the numbers were majorly inflated. Jokić is just doing it.

[@justinsanders9932]

There were games when Westbrook had to grab all those rebounds because they didn't have a presence in the middle

[@ethanbrown4628]

@ they had Steven Adams be fr 😂😂 or did Steven Adams only become a beast on the boards in Memphis? I think it might be that Russ needed to play fast so the thunder let him get boards to get going downhill. I’m not trying to diminish what he did because he did it for multiple years and it’s crazy. There is context for how things come about lol.

[@mrcalipride]

@@justinsanders9932 bro Adam was boxing out for Russel to rebound. lol

[@justinsanders9932]

@@mrcalipride I liked Adams too.

[@milosstefanovic6603]

Lets be honest, if Jokic was black and American born, he would have 4 MVPs in 4 years, thats 100% true

[@MichaelChill]

How are yall missing what’s being talked about?? NO ONE SAID JOKIC WAS TRASH. Nick is saying why are people gassing him but all the players who weren’t gassed in the past were criticized or hated.

[@RiloXRi]

Nah he’s just crying that a White boy is the best player in the nba. Like they all said he just kept on naming shit without any valid point 😂

[@RiloXRi]

Also Jokic WAS getting called a stat padder and overrated by people like Stephen A and Perkins, then he proceeded to win a championship and they couldn’t do anything but close the mouths. Jokic hate was everywhere until they had no choice but to eat they words

[@hunteristhebest81]

“I ain’t got time for this shit”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marcanthony00]

“Lord” from Kenyon 😂

[@ClarenceBeeks64]

Nick Young did celebrity boxing people underestimate how much courage it takes to lace em up. He's not scared of Kenyon.

[@AdamEdn]

Didn’t he get knocked out of the ring tho? 😂

[@TreyshonEdwards]

​@@AdamEdn HE STILL CAN BOX THO I CNT WIN THEM ALL

[@AdamEdn]

@@TreyshonEdwards there’s not winning and then there’s knocked out the ring during an exhibition match 😂 either way all I’m saying is that may not have been the best example

[@divasrus5774]

​@@AdamEdn Kenyon would to, he's a 6"9 basketball player not a trained fighter. People act like he's Jon Jones cause he bullies.

[@AdamEdn]

@ I love that this is being taken seriously like they were really upset etc but for the record, my comment was based on an event that actually happened when he fought another non-fighter. Had nothing to do with Kenyon so I don’t get your point or why you’re directing your KM fan fiction to me 😂

[@CinHalCedHerChance]

13:23 the way Kenyon looking at Swaggy's hand and that forearm dap😂😂

[@joebauers8031]

The racism is hilarious 😂

[@romey2fresh]

Kenyon is a real life bully 😂

[@EricLexG63]

Fake bully it’s a persona

[@sdot266]

@@EricLexG63you must not know

[@bdotvisualz7461]

Mane is NOT a bully 😂

[@pedrogates3189]

Everyone’s a bully until they get punched in the face McGrady capped his up n he looked at the refs 😂😂

[@YouTubeTroll86]

That single mother household energy

[@josiahthompson8018]

Unc arenas defending Jokic? Wtf timeline did I hop into?

[@vicetea86]

yooooooo this shit cracked me up. Kenyon is just too fucking chill man . Schwaggy was deep in his bag .

[@RiffMajestic]

Jokic doing it at the 5 is a different level, so efficient...and won a championship. Russ was never leading a team to a ring as the #1 dude, but props for putting up amazing numbers and he always played hard.

[@Gymantis]

Such a classic response when a person makes a remark about why someone shouldn't be eligible for an acolade or achievement and then when asked "who else is?" the person asked says they don't know 😂

[@SuperKasaan]

Why Kenyon got on Long John’s??

[@SweetJonez-706]

With tube socks🤣🤣🤣

[@DamionGeorge-j9s]

Kenyon. Has generational money

[@SweetJonez-706]

@@DamionGeorge-j9s nigga and?? Having money don’t mean u can walk around in long John’s and tube socks and not get roasted

[@dasmondhopkins4288]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Marcus-r2e]

1:51 "go back home"

[@imanbutton7072]

They want bro gone 😂

[@izzynextdoor1]

That’s wild 😂 😂

[@KevinHernandez-yb3mm]

😂😂😂

[@thomaswatson5110]

Swaggy is mad bc Joker is white lol

[@Jewbacabra]

The fact these clowns mention Shai and Jokic in the same sentence is insane 😂

[@masonharkness6437]

Why does it look like Nick is gonna cry 3:23 😂😂

[@tjones2991]

The way Russ played to get his triple and the way Jokic is playing is miles apart. Jokic plays winning basketball. Russ forced alot of passes and stole alot of rebounds to get his stats.

[@Christopher._M]

Westbrook just makes bad choices. When he forced passes it's not that he was stats chasing. He just wants to make a play when it's not there. Which is why his great games are some of the best you will ever see but his bad games were also disastrous. The rebounds definitely did look like stats padding to me at times. He did get many legit rebounds from hustling but I do remember a lot of offense rebounds where Adams would box out for him and he would get the rebound or when he would come flying and get a rebound that was going to the hands of us teammates. While some say it was because OKC and he wanted to push the ball up the court faster I still have my doubta

[@tjrateh]

Untrue the only forced thing would've been the rebounds. Its a proven stat that they won 70% of the games russ got a trip-dub

[@tjones2991]

​@Christopher._M yeah they needed him to be great but averaging 5 TO a game and wasting energy on rebounding instead of defense is crazy to me. And normally the pg leaks out down the floor since a pass is faster than dribbling

[@IAMPVYNE]

13:55 13:55

[@IAMPVYNE]

13:55 13:55 13:55

[@uldrensav972]

Russ was an 8 seed when he averaged a triple double…

[@ericellis1573]

That’ don’t matter at all

[@ericellis1573]

MVP is a player award not a team award

[@334ben10]

Which player had the much better help Jokic every yr he won or Russ in that yr?

[@NoVisionGuy]

@@ericellis1573 then Harden should've won that award that season. Harden was much better than Russ in efficiency, in +/-, and in team wins that season.

[@ObeyBeeno]

6th seed stop with the bullshit

[@drayz9655]

embiid pretty much cried for a mvp and gave it to em.

[@Yehitsmepaul]

Poor Swaggy-P had too much to drink before the show. 😂😂😂

[@Weezy414]

Yo, just want to shout y’all out. This my favorite basketball show to watch. I appreciate y’all and the fact you don’t shy away from debating and ribbing each other is amazing

[@A.M.O.S_TV92]

I don't like how Kenyon has to devalue what nick saying. Tbh he right tho.

[@bluenobandz]

i think Nick is just trying to defend past players whether it's fair that we keep doing it or not. he's right, tons of the best players in nba history should have more mvps than they do. his point is that yes, jokic is amazing. but he's not lebron or kobe, what makes this decision change with him? because of stats? russell westbrook has been a much more impactful player on the culture of the nba than jokic has, while arguably being the worse player between the two. people like james harden, kevin durant, all these guys who shaped the nba. and jokic comes in and suddenly we're more willing than ever to hand one person the mvp.

[@bluenobandz]

i personally do think jokic is up there for mvp talks, but then what? he gets 4 mvps before the age of 30, and we're gonna keep givin him more? more than lebron & jordan? or are we gonna do him like lebron & jordan once he hits 4? either way that goes, jokic is not yet deserving to be in the same conversation as those guys. he hasn't done nearly enough.

[@bankai7623]

He is the best player in the nba those years and most of the time it has t been close. Why can't yall see that 😂

[@bluenobandz]

@@bankai7623 bro you're goofy i literally acknowledged that

[@bluenobandz]

@@bankai7623 your comment has nun to do wit my point 😂

[@arexyouxepicxenough]

Because other people were putting up godly stats during those years? Like the only Jokic MVP you could say is a bit dick suck is the one he got when he made the 6th seed but that mvp was built off the mvps of the previous decade (insane leap in everything accomplishing shit we've literally never seen on god tier efficiency carrying bums to the point if you take him off the team they're the worst in the league) or last year I thought Luka was deserving. Harden's best years overlap with Giannis putting up crazy stats while being one of the best defenders in the league on the 1 seed. There was no one like that for Jokic last year. Durant's best years overlap with Lebron. Westbrook's overlap with them all. Curry's best years etc. etc.

[@JosemiPR]

If Jokic were black there wouldn’t be an issue.

[@jgard1168]

Oh gosh 🤣😭 they are complimenting him bruh

[@trips963]

You must be a idiot? Theres a black player who already averaged a 26 point triple double and it was an issue. Only won ONE mvp. Joker hasnt done it ONCE but has 3. Hes only getting these awards because hes a white skin color lmao hes not apart of u dirty white americans.

[@joechucks1555]

And if he was black he would only have 1 MVP whats your point

[@timboshanghai6785]

@@joechucks1555 he would have 5 MVPs and be a national hero if he was american and black. a basketball genius you see in every commercial

[@AVAXII]

That is exactly what hurts people like Nick Young.

[@alucard3374]

Rare Gil W. Just bc you fucked up in the past does NOT mean you keep fucking up current players in the name of "staying consistent" recognize the mistakes and change them.

[@tuckereldridge1169]

When you have to put up 25 shots a game to score 30 points with 10 ft on 30% true shooting for the 6th best team in the west while your team mates box out every play so you have a chance for every rebound thats not the same as what jok is doing. Thats the difference between being impactful and stat padding. Efficiency.

[@moses0686]

Joker is a G.O.A.T he figured out the game. Work on your craft, treat it like a job, go home, don't give the media shit repeat. Joket puts his numbers up so efficiently and it helps his team win. He makes the right play every time. Thats why its different than russ. Russ wasn't efficient and it was out of spite for KD leaving. He was trying to prove something that didn't need to be proven.

[@ericellis1573]

lol Jokic ain’t no Goat you gotta Relax

[@SlimeMobFootball]

Nah

[@CaptainUnique]

His team has won no more games than russ when russ had a triple double mvp season 😂

[@zayytesla]

Russ never won a championship dawg. He had Kevin Durant on his team and didn’t succeed idk why y’all arguing this. As if Russ is miles ahead of Jokic or some.

[@van2.060]

that sounds like some round about bs bro lol...averaging a triple double is averaging a triple...it's not easy to do which is why up until this point only two people have done it...all that proven a point and KD ish means nothing...for 3 straight years 4 out of 5 Russ averaged a triple double those are facts...Swaggy is simply saying we've seen it before but now Jokic averaging a triple double is different and hand him the MVP cause of his stats but didn't do it for Russ...those are facts period...you don't have to agree with his point but his point is factual

[@Ahilliard44]

Lebron couldn't get it every year because of guys named Curry, KD and Rose

[@Fashobet]

LeBron should have 7 MVP’s you probably a kid

[@koyowens1397]

NICK TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE LBJ SHOULD HAVE MORE MVPS

[@jamalwalker04]

He has 4 lol

[@jameshorton3692]

Yeah he should have more. What does that have to do with joker?

[@Aquinas_1]

5:13 he slipped there, just say the "w" word dude

[@Hilltopperpete]

I disagree about David Robinson's 71, yes his team fed him but he got it on 41 FGA. Your team working hard to get you the ball and get you a massive night is one thing. Actually following through with the hot hand and executing while snagging a win is completely different. There's a reason only 10 guys in NBA history have scored 70 points in a game. Michael Jordan never even hit that number, with his career high at 69. Durant's career high is 55 and LeBron's is 61.

[@getbuckets4252]

Russell Westbrook did this 3 seasons in a row at 6'3", where are his MVPs?

[@bondinho6114]

You are a casual lol. Westbrook was never the best player in the world

[@lamarwest4216]

"Russell did this" when did Russ shoot 56/56/84 slips? lmao, this isn't just about the triple double average...

[@josephkim1454]

casual take lmao

[@nicyee3701]

Did this just to get the 7th seed and be knocked out of the first round. He wasn't a winning basketball player like Jokic.

[@vladchiriac2101]

Not even close in efficiency. Jokic does is naturally, unforced, on WAAAAY better stats!

[@lawandpoems]

David Robinson shot 65+% from the field that game with 5 assists and they won, so not only was it a legit 70, but by Gil’s logic, he could’ve averaged 70 for the year if they fed him.

[@pureblood3823]

Cry racist

[@agentzero7658]

I used to be a jokic hater. Thought he was overrated. Then I went to a nuggets game in Denver. There was nothing the other team could do to stop him. He’s a lot stronger than he looks. He’s able to get his spots down low so easily. And of course being so tall, he’s great at surveying the floor and making the right reads. He is a very good player. I was wrong about him

[@Stellar24]

Russ’ triple double was forced while Jokic’s is organic

[@tonybayarea]

Why is Gil and everyone else always messing with Nick (Swaggy P) Young all the time on this show. Nick is like a verbal punching bag 🥊 for everyone on the show 😂.

[@bestabesttrailers4335]

Just for the record: They DID accuse Jokic of stat padding and his teammates laughed those questions off saying ‘He don’t care bout that stuff’. Russ’s teammates admitted jokingly that Russ steals rebounds.

[@cameronmetz9933]

One thing they left out is Joker’s teams have had many more wins and considerably more success than Russ’s teams. You can average a triple double but if you can’t win games or have some real success, you’re done receiving MVP’s.

[@jameswyatt4443]

The reason Russ and Harden were considered stat padding is because they would get all the easy defensive rebounds with no contests. Jokic is leading the league in offensive rebounds, and competing for them with bigs.

[@bobtwista]

If we ever see him without great players all around, we’ll find out how talented he truly is.

[@tomdepwnzor]

The difference is Jokic doesn't care about his stats, he cares about his team and the win. Other players "stat padding" mostly care about their own stats

[@jamelldevans9326]

Swaggy hilarious “how many rebounds he averaging ?”.. 36 Swaggy “IDGOF” 😂