As a Pistons fan, that game with the 25 straight, was the game when I started ‘hating’ LeBron..
@ifreebasecocaine5 ай бұрын
the great get the most hate
@ibejammin59935 ай бұрын
Fr. We were the best defensive team in the league and he dogged us. That Bron is just on another level simple
@andrejamison27233 ай бұрын
No Ben Wallace
@beazy33647 ай бұрын
Lebron was all defense 2x and MVP 2x...wtf are we talking about here 😂
@MavDon-qc9tc7 ай бұрын
Actin like Luka didn’t just get robbed from MVP this year. Yall the same oldheads who love kobe and shaq now talkin bout some “mvp” as if that ain’t no media agenda pushing award 😂
@Rooski2457 ай бұрын
He would 0 MVPS at that point if his competition was Jokic, Embiid, and Giannis
@kingjulianT7 ай бұрын
@@MavDon-qc9tceven if he won it he’d still be another MVP short lol
@quindonunderwood84427 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan Kobe D Wade
@Cediedash227 ай бұрын
He eas competing with Kobe, Dirk and Tim and KG huh....@@Rooski245
@farrellcityking17 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how folks forget how outrageous Lebron was at 25. If they go pull up those games.. they’ll see Bron hitting 35ft 3 pointers, doing sideways fades, step back 3’s, full speed spin move dunks, parachute fade aways, etc. He WAS NOT run and dunk man like Giannis. People need to get that narrative tf outa here.
@chay7707 ай бұрын
and he was scared to take jumpshots againts the mavs. Luka is a killer, trash talk him and he gets better.
@matthewitaliano90887 ай бұрын
Yeah, Bron was terrified ahah FOH@@chay770
@creshondasmith44487 ай бұрын
@@chay770 Luka can also shoot his team out the game when his shot isn't falling, he whines when he doesn't get every call, and he's lazy on defense so what is his go to when his jumper ain't falling? He don't trash talk when they losing though lol.
@talliban78627 ай бұрын
@@creshondasmith4448 when his shot isn’t falling he drops a trip double with 12+ assists and I assume you have no ball knowledge because of that last part as the suns series should’ve cleared Luka of all frontrunner accusations the man is a dog
@talliban78627 ай бұрын
@@creshondasmith4448 Also your a fucking casual 🤣🤣🤣 you just said Luka doesn’t talk when he’s losing just stfu and say you just started watching
@willg10836 ай бұрын
They cap on Bron just running through the Pistons, Lebron was being guarded by Billups, then Prince, and he was doing step backs, fadeaways, behind the back dribble then pulling up for a 3, his athleticism just overshadows that.
@whateveryaw81096 ай бұрын
And shot 3-18 in the close out game while boogie Gibson dropped 31 points. In fact lebron only played well 2 games of that series that y’all hype up so much
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m6 ай бұрын
@@whateveryaw8109Shh 🤫 you can’t put out facts like that
@willg10836 ай бұрын
@@whateveryaw8109 Lebron had 20 point 14 rebs, and 8 assist in that close out, just say you don’t know any better.
@willg10836 ай бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Lebron had 20 point 14 rebs, and 8 assist in that close out, just say you don’t know any better. Skip over that fact huh, but 🤫 right?
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m6 ай бұрын
@@willg1083 That don’t mean sh** when you shoot 3-18 in the close out game
@fenyxmhm7 ай бұрын
Rashad hate for Lebron is reaching Skip Bayless level of delusion.
@Dk9776v7 ай бұрын
He was on Bron side this entire segment 😂
@dcsupremebasketball53587 ай бұрын
On Lebron side? Nigga said stick to the question then brough up Kobe... he don't like Bron whatsoever
@DP-gb8qu7 ай бұрын
That didn’t even make sense and you still got 83 likes that should tell you something
@BeatsByWorthy7 ай бұрын
@@DP-gb8qunggas love to hate McCants they keep him relevant
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
@@DP-gb8qu The BRONSENSE is strong with these weirdos
@dorianlawson60947 ай бұрын
Bron not being skilled is one of the craziest takes ever
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
i'd Hire Him as a Bull-Dozer ... and he's a good passer ... but he telegraphs everything ...not just his passing ... Everything ...
@reganhatcher15797 ай бұрын
Didn’t say not skilled said not as skilled as Luka. Which is fair.
@craigstephen27297 ай бұрын
Funny thing is the dudes who saying he aint skilled cant beat him at the game of basketball because of how much more skilled at the game he is more than them.
@skinnymon1237 ай бұрын
@@craigstephen2729cant beat him bc of how much bigger he is*
@craigstephen27297 ай бұрын
@@skinnymon123 can beat him because of how much better at the game of basketball he is*
@Tonyoung556 ай бұрын
Bro imagine LeBron running up and down the floor and thinking Luka could help stop bron from doing anything is crazy
@fabo09136 ай бұрын
Lmao fr a 25 y/o Bron absolutely FRYING everybody on this Mavs team rn
@AlphaAbyss_6 ай бұрын
To be fair I don't think bron could stop Luka either
@Tonyoung556 ай бұрын
@@AlphaAbyss_ I feel you but my point is it would be Easy for LeBron to dominate Luka and overall he a better player hell Luka might be better offensively but overall no defense matters a lot to me which is why I’m thinking Boston in 5-6
@AlphaAbyss_6 ай бұрын
@@Tonyoung55 yeah Lebron is definitely a more rounder player in terms of both sides of the court but players like Luka and jokic embarrassed Rudy who is a better defender than LeBron weather or not the Mavs or the Celtics win im not sure but Lukas defence in this playoff run has been far better
@Tonyoung556 ай бұрын
@@AlphaAbyss_ Boston gonna hunt Luka and he will not try to hide is what I’m thinking but we will see I don’t see Luka’s defense in the playoffs being any different he not guarding anybody of note against Boston you can’t hide so I’m looking forward to seeing this
@eemfunnyasf6 ай бұрын
Bron not being skilled is the funniest narrative to be pushed yet 😂
@Karteltvent6 ай бұрын
He got skills .. no bag
@whateveryaw81096 ай бұрын
He isn’t skilled. WTF are y’all watching
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m6 ай бұрын
He’s not skilled and has no bag
@choopdabloon63156 ай бұрын
Go watch lebron bag talk
@NotAnAstronaut2k6 ай бұрын
He got 0 skills lol. Mr. No bag LeBron
@vividhdpcgclips7 ай бұрын
Who TF came up with this comparison. The Lebron disrespect does not stop
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@stokleyture22587 ай бұрын
It's more Luka butt kissing
@mrdeebo3137 ай бұрын
Bro is JJ paying you to keep commenting the same thing
@KingCarolina_7 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYoudidn’t JJ sweep Kobe that year? A back to back champ?
@ericthomas60867 ай бұрын
LOL. It's only going to get worse for Lebron. Wait until he's been out the league for 20 years like MJ and an entire generation has never seen him play. All types of dudes will be considered better than him.
@IroniZaGoblin7 ай бұрын
The fact that they’re debating Lebron vs. Luka is why I don’t have basketball conversations in 2024.
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
Why is that Exactly?
@each1teach1academy437 ай бұрын
Because people are morons
@oni_vergil73427 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726 because fans are 🤡’s it isn’t a comparison! Lebron was way better than Luka at 25. This is the weakest gen of basketball when it comes to defense. But y’all want to crown him better than lebron who had 2mvps and 2 def player awards when def was still being played !
@LL-zm9go7 ай бұрын
Because it’s ridiculous Bryan
@lilharold7 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726 you the problem
@michaelcerrone84037 ай бұрын
This is what happens when someone doesn't know the definition of the word skill
@gseric47216 ай бұрын
Swaggy P had Brando rollin' 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Wodz306 ай бұрын
I can write my name faster than you. SKILL!! so ridiculous
@yasinbiggs24024 ай бұрын
Young bron is very underrated
@FOH453 ай бұрын
exactly, there's athletic skills vs passing skills.... bro dont even know why coacg had them doing conditioning😂
@mikhelBrown6 ай бұрын
So Glad Nick Young stood his ground. The other dude was tripping. 💯
@Jm3rv6 ай бұрын
Kenyon isnt trippin. Lebron definitely has a DNA advantage since birth. He also still said Lebron was better at age 25.. so what is he trippin about? Luka definitely has a more polished skill set at that age (footwork, dribbling, shooting, shot creating, floaters etc.)
@tonyfortune3466 ай бұрын
@merv3930 He is tripping. Saying running and jumping aren't skills is tripping. Just because someone else can have better genetics which makes them better at them than other people doesn't mean it isn't a skill. Your DNA plays a part in everything we do, so if being born with genetics that makes us better a certain things disqualifies it from being a skill then nothing is a skill.
@tiismuna6 ай бұрын
These dudes think a gift is not a skill. Their narrative is just narrow. To their narrative Luka's footwork should also be a gift. That footwork doesn't even stay for 10 years of use. All the athletes expires and deplete through time. It's not like Lebron is just standing around and does nothing to have this skill. He worked hard for it to maintain as much of it at this stage. He even adjusted to what was left of his skills.
@Jm3rv6 ай бұрын
@@tonyfortune346 You’re just proving what Kenyon is saying. Yes it is a skill to do certain things with those gifts but some people have higher ceilings. No matter how hard Luka trains to jump higher, he will never be able to jump higher than Lebron if Lebron trained at the same level.
@Jm3rv6 ай бұрын
Gifts are physical attributes not skills. Skills can be trained. Lebron can train to shoot as efficient as Luka but Luka can’t train to be 6’9 with a 7’0 wing span.
@christurner26847 ай бұрын
What Luka is doing right now is truly amazing, but 25 year old Bron was a freak of an athlete with two regular season MVPs and carried that trash team to the finals, and tbh if Bron had Luka’s team in 2009 when he was 25, he would’ve won a ring imo
@rich25867 ай бұрын
Facts if Bron had kyrie like Luka has automatic chip this year
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
25 year old lebron couldn’t guard hedo and stop the magic pick and roll stop it😭
@hardwoodthought12137 ай бұрын
@@Dipset415Lukas never been able to stop anyone stop it 😂
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 watching the first quarter of tonight’s game🥱Lebron in no time in his career was doing shit like this
@hardwoodthought12137 ай бұрын
@@Dipset415 Apart from when he scored 29 of his teams LAST 30 against a Pistons team who made their 5th straight conference finals, in a far slower paced era with Boobie Gibson being the teams second leading scorer? The mental illness is leaking out of you here
@kitto2brazy4657 ай бұрын
"Hell yeah i jumped higher than you. My shit was 42, boy what the fuck wrong witchu?" Swaggy P spittin 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Flare67 ай бұрын
Dude had me cracking up 😂
@lamadesurvivor52167 ай бұрын
@@Flare6he said he can get Ozempic, when Kenyon said He can’t get abs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Flare67 ай бұрын
@@lamadesurvivor5216 He's hilarious and he doesn't even be trying. He's perfect for these podcasts
@kingbanksss7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀
@jesuisdavid17 ай бұрын
that 25 points run was pure skill, most of the points were perimeter jumpshots against the best defensive team in the league...
@shinsukecorbin4257 ай бұрын
The crazy part is half of those points came from jumpshots and 3s😭🤦🏽♂️
@SammieSosa_7 ай бұрын
Man I was waiting on them to read the shot chart. I guess Kenyon had a game that night cause he def didn’t watch that game
@jesuisdavid16 ай бұрын
@@SammieSosa_ exactly that Pistons defense was top tier in the league
@Atlas3652476 ай бұрын
Bron hasn't never been CONSISTENT so you can't call it SKILL. he was hot nd motivated. Did those Pistons have Ben Wallace that yr.?? He was done anyways but still
@jesuisdavid16 ай бұрын
@@Atlas365247 Ben wasnt with them that year, but they had Sheed. Bron's career average is 27 points, for a pass first player over 21 seasons...what do you mean consistent? Because the numbers arent in your favour
@andrzejgrubba63276 ай бұрын
Nick Young is the only one here having some braincells
@benjaminireland70966 ай бұрын
Lmao that's a low bar
@nazeemfonemgaddafi6 ай бұрын
Surprisingly
@enriquenieves64996 ай бұрын
Basketball players consider skills to be shooting, passing, dribbling, and footwork. All which Luka exceeds Lebron at at that time. Lebron’s physical gifts were better and made him harder to stop than Luka.
@Htxracing976 ай бұрын
@@enriquenieves6499what makes Luka passing and footwork better than lebrons?
@jonathanknypstra21376 ай бұрын
@@Htxracing97his footwork is better for sure probably one of the best in the league in that aspect. LeBron is definitely a superior passer though
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
I actually agree with Nick about Bron and Giannis. If every 7 footer could dribble like Giannis there would be 50 7ft mvp candidates rn every season
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
Giannis actually has handles, footwork, high IQ and desire
@tiba10177 ай бұрын
Facts Kmart tripping
@antoniofba6677 ай бұрын
@@tiba1017this had to be Kenyons worse take
@Imhere2squabble7 ай бұрын
@@antoniofba667exactly, this is what made Jordan unstoppable his speed with the ball.
@ted65807 ай бұрын
😂 Wemby dribbles better than Giannis, you think Wemby could get 30 a game just running by people and dunking? Gtfo 😂 Giannis is taller, stronger, and faster than everyone and people don’t want to get run over so he scores 30. You thought they call him Freak because of his dribbling skills? 😂 KD dribbles better than Gianni, can slenderman put up 30 a game by running by people and dunking? There’s far more than 50 7 footers in the history of the NBA who could dribble better than Giannis who would have 0% chance of putting up 30 the way Giannis does.
@coolboydowntheblock7 ай бұрын
The way Nick checked Kenyon like he meant that 💀😂 Dude said 42 vert had to close the app and took a walk 😭😭
@jlaw60227 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣facts
@lamadesurvivor52167 ай бұрын
Don’t sleep though. That nigga Kenyon had some mf bounce now! That’s why his son bounce the way he does. Nick had em on him tho. I ain’t gone pop it
@deepthought29727 ай бұрын
This is some Disrespectful shitz toward Lebron
@AB1B17 ай бұрын
This is what LeBron fans do to MJ 😂
@justoutlaw64237 ай бұрын
And Lebron won shit till 25, Luka already winner in Europe and Interantional. He does everything Lebron does without being athletic. Not to mention Lebron played in the weakest East ever. LEbron is great but if Dončić was an american it woul be no brainer.
@brxndaveli58347 ай бұрын
Luka gonna be 1 of those 1’s that don’t get respect til years from now. Yall have no idea lol
@4evahodlingdoge2267 ай бұрын
How is it disrespectful to compare a dude with 5 1st team all nba selections by age 25?
@thekrakenguy69627 ай бұрын
@@justoutlaw6423 you can’t really compare the euro league. Lebron would average 40+ in Europe at 20
@lewismoultrie55486 ай бұрын
LeBron didn't have a Kyrie on his team. A prime Kyrie at that... Noir did he have a Brunson... Without taking those things into consideration Luka still doesn't clear LeBron. Not a conversation.
@snippyduda6 ай бұрын
Wtf does having kyrie on his team gotta do with who’s better?
@lewismoultrie55486 ай бұрын
@@snippyduda Huh? is the game not easier having a Kyrie next to you? Like I said up there in my comment without taking that into consideration Luka still doesn't clear LeBron.
@KevinThomes6 ай бұрын
@@lewismoultrie5548 Name one thing LeBron is better at on a basketball court than Luka. Don't say defense, because his votes were given to him because he was the chosen one. We have all seen him play and get smoked by other players. Remember the Mavericks against the Heat? Enough said.
@lewismoultrie55486 ай бұрын
@@KevinThomes In my opinion LeBron is the smartest basketball player to ever lace them up... LeBron is God gifted there are things he can do on a basketball court that Luka just can't do That's obvious. And LeBron is a way better defender than Luka. Luka was guarding Gobert and Jalen mc Daniels. Luka doesn't do anything on a basketball court that LeBron couldn't do today at age 40. With all that being said the only thing Luka has over LeBron is that he has constantly shot double the 3 pointers that LeBron has ever shot. That's it.
@brentsteinke49206 ай бұрын
Sure, but Lebron a couple years older and more experienced, had a finals MVP in Wade next to him in his second finals run and lost.
@WhyHighC7 ай бұрын
This segment made me go back to 20's Bron highlights. Bron is my GOAT, and I can't believe I forgot about how ridiculously athletic he was.
@kevinmurtagh49967 ай бұрын
Running fast WITH control of the basketball, with that level of body control young LeBron had, there’s absolutely skill involved with that.
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
He ran with the basketball ... he walked with the basketball ... he carried the basketball ... he bull-dozed and got the call ... Wow ... OK ... Time to Move On ...
@Premenyc7 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726 booo
@fullmetal17667 ай бұрын
if he was skilled at it he wouldn't be a turnover machine
@JerichoCastille7 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726That's Luka.
@bigbadtrapalot.7 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726just say you never played.
@d1unv857 ай бұрын
An old head used to say, "My dog can run and jump, dont mean it can play basketball." That shit applies to many hoopers.
@thekingsplacegospeldjc48477 ай бұрын
😮😉🤫🤔
@TheNatedoggva7 ай бұрын
Well it apply to LeBron mother fucker
@fan2hd2777 ай бұрын
especially to LeChoke. He is total bully with his shoulders and is the king of flops.
@drek2737 ай бұрын
Moral victories lmaooo
@THEM4RC7 ай бұрын
This is a bar omg 😂😂😂
@Sean-qx2co6 ай бұрын
If 25 yr old Lebron went up against 25 yr old luka it wouldn’t even be a question…
@HoosierDaddy_116 ай бұрын
JJ barea & Jason Terry don’t believe you
@truemoneyb18096 ай бұрын
@@HoosierDaddy_11he wasn't 25 against them smh
@HoosierDaddy_116 ай бұрын
@@truemoneyb1809 oh wow what was he 26 or 27 you 🤡
@brentsteinke49206 ай бұрын
@@truemoneyb1809 I mean... he was 27. Not that big of a difference. This is the one area that Luka might take over Lebron. It took Lebron a while before he could perform in the finals, took him a while to develop that killer instinct. If Luka comes out this next series and wins it all, this conversation changes. But right now, Lebron takes it.
@thunderstar2546 ай бұрын
1v1? You're absolutely right, LeBron gets smoked. He's notoriously bad at 1v1, just ask Dwade, Michael Beasley, etc etc
@BigDropSports7 ай бұрын
Keyon Saying Bron Not Skilled Is Nasty Work 😷
@shinsukecorbin4257 ай бұрын
Because Bron isn’t flashy like Luka or Kyrie..
@SSJRome7 ай бұрын
If lebron shot 42% from the field and 32% from 3PT range for a series at the age of 25 he would undoubtedly be on his way to Cancun
@jalilcook51137 ай бұрын
bro like what we talking about here😂 & Luka scored 73 points in a game, Luka more skilled than bron was at 25..
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
Lebron wasn’t as skilled as Luka at age 25, didn’t have the fundamentals like Luka at age 25
@TayG_9Deuce7 ай бұрын
@@jalilcook5113 Luka scored 75 against my Hawks because we decided this game not to double or blitz him. They let him go one on one all night. Plus this Luka first time beating a team with Multiple HOFs on it yet none of them are in their primes 😂😂 Bron been did that to win championships
@alib69367 ай бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m100% too bad being a freak athlete helps how good at basketball you are 💀 skills is nice, productions and wins is better
@sideshowbobsaget88767 ай бұрын
07 LeBron when he "carried" the Cavs to the Finals. 07-Playoffs 25ppg, 41.6%FG, 28%3PA 😂😢😅
@ThisIsMajor16597 ай бұрын
The 25 straight in Detroit included drives, post ups, fadeaway, threes, and midrange jump shots off the dribble. What are we talking about. Talk about the film.
@jaliancasey54097 ай бұрын
Exactly crazy he brought the game up then pretended like everyone was just letting him run to the rim back then
@mkingadiffernce6 ай бұрын
He old give him grace lmbo
@diegochavez62036 ай бұрын
Vs an old pistons lmao luka destroyed and took the soul out the #1 seed suns
@darrylthomas42166 ай бұрын
*KING JAMES 31.1* ✅ {25 yrs old} *LUKA 28.1* 🚫 {25 yes old} *The player efficiency rating (PER) is John Hollinger's all-in-one basketball rating, which attempts to collect or boil down all of a player's contributions into one number. Using a detailed formula, Hollinger developed a system that rates every player's statistical performance*
And that 31.1 was in an era with slower pace, less positions and crowded paint. I mean Luka has better offensive package than LeBron, but its not even close as a comparison. That's like comparing Ant to MJ... oh wait, the media does that, too.
@diegochavez62036 ай бұрын
@@tonnichiwa7603bo its not lebron in an ass conference 😂 levron didn't average 31.1 for hia career at that age it was for the season vs kuka for his career nuce try ..
@uclkthe1st1006 ай бұрын
@@diegochavez6203can’t take your argument serious when you can’t even spell
@gratestever64097 ай бұрын
Bron the first player to win a scoring title and not be skilled I guess.. he has the 3rd highest ppg average of ALL TIME and he’s not skilled… and he’s a perimeter player😭😭😭🤦🏽♂️
@mrdeebo3137 ай бұрын
Bron won't get his respect until 30-40 years down the line
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
Calling for picks to get the weaker defender on you and taking advantage 🥱
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
@@mrdeebo313 He's Forgotten Already ... Why do People Keep Bringin' him Up?
@camminor85237 ай бұрын
@@Dipset415who doesn’t do that in the NBA 😂. Do you even watch basketball?
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
@@camminor8523 it’s a lot players in the nba who don’t do that because they have the skills to get by anybody💯then there’s Lebron 😭
@WEEZYFANx21367 ай бұрын
Btw the Cavs ran pin downs for Lebron jumpers. Something Milwaukee never does for Giannis. Saying Lebron didn’t have skill is insane
@kameronbryant13417 ай бұрын
I'd argue knowing how to use your genetics is a skill. A lot of tall and built dudes out here who haven't made the NBA
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@vic3knight3107 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYounigga you have copy as pasted the same comment three different times
@MindofKefane7 ай бұрын
WE TALKING ABOUT SKILL ON NBA STANDARDS.USING UR GENES COMES DOWNN TO HARDWORK NOT SKILL
@ShooterScrappy7 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYou you wrote this comment like 6x we get it lol get off dick now
@prollyhigh93357 ай бұрын
just bcuz u tall dnt mean ur athletic🤦🏿♂️😭ur just tall😭😭dichead
@chillbutton29866 ай бұрын
It takes skill to be able to take advantage of your physical attributes. How many athletes are fast, strong, or jump higher but can take advantage
@thunderstar2546 ай бұрын
It takes an entire multiverse of more skill to humiliate and dominate all those individuals without even a possibility of using those same "physical-atrribute based skills" 🤦💀😂
@DakaariDenton7 ай бұрын
Nah saying LeBron isn’t skilled at that age is INSANE
@9nineM4rc377us7 ай бұрын
Not really That finals vs the spurs kinda exaposed his lack of skill set They made him a shooter and he struggled But bron is great
@UFunnyLowe7 ай бұрын
@@9nineM4rc377usYea but even Tim said they were focused on guarding him and no one else and forced him to settle for jumpers which was the weakest part of his game at the time. I’d say he was skilled just not to an insane amount like others since he relied on his athleticism too.
@dwish52717 ай бұрын
@@9nineM4rc377usor there was no one else on the team 😂😂
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
@@UFunnyLoweThat shows he didn’t work on his jump shot, go to move, balling handling, free throws
@chuckEdopemoves7 ай бұрын
This topic is so laughable lol LeBron is head and shoulders above Luka at that age! Not even close
@andyheath52447 ай бұрын
Bron fans already seeing what Jordan fans went through lol
@baltimoremike91617 ай бұрын
At least bro retired first..
@andyheath52447 ай бұрын
@@baltimoremike9161 we didn’t have social media or these podcasts in 03 though lol
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
@@baltimoremike9161 nah cuz Jordan is obviously better than Bron , and so is Luka. That's what happens when y'all try to manufacture a goat through the media instead of play; the case falls apart
@wock46267 ай бұрын
@@andyheath5244and?
@marchristopheradkins7 ай бұрын
Frfr wtf Luka better back tf up
@fauxbro19837 ай бұрын
lebron played defense, Luka did not
@_lilkeef7 ай бұрын
like i don’t understand why they dont take that into account
@azrazerz14457 ай бұрын
@@_lilkeef Because Luka outpaces him in every other category lol thats why they dont.
@Cheezkrispies1317 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouyou’re a dumbass lol, losing one finals doesn’t suddenly discount every other insane thing he’s accomplished. So your argument is WEAK
@jalilcook51137 ай бұрын
you don’t watch basketball then
@andreasmakoben24557 ай бұрын
Jordan got raped and fasted for 7 years. He only won 1 playoff game without an all-star or all-NBA caliber player. Thats not goat material
@JSmooove987 ай бұрын
Crazy discussion
@The4ceMan7 ай бұрын
That whole 25 pt stretch against the pistons took hella skill. He was hitting behind the back mids over people. Hitting threes over people and getting to the rim. He had hella skill.
@chay7707 ай бұрын
and luka just gave the number 1 defense 20 pts in the 1st qtr and killed their souls.
@The4ceMan7 ай бұрын
Yea because Lebron has never done anything like that. Luka hasn’t even gotten a mvp yet dude. Hopefully he wins the finals I like kyrie.
@MikeBNumba67 ай бұрын
@@The4ceManyou can argue Luka should have gotten the mvp but didn't because mavs record wasn't good as nuggets. Lebron won a mvp in 08 when Wade should have won it. Bron got it because cavs had the better record. MVP is voters based and no clear criteria, so it's irrelevant in this discussion.
@TheForkOnTheLeftist6 ай бұрын
@@MikeBNumba6thank you lol
@The4ceMan6 ай бұрын
@@MikeBNumba6 boy Lebron should have 7 mvps. So nobody cares about Luka getting so called robbed if really feel that way. And ur saying dwade deserved it because he scored 30. But d wade wasn’t better than Lebron that year. And he had a better team and still didn’t have a better record than cavs. So hush it up
@sonnyqsoul7 ай бұрын
It takes skills to be able to utilize being stronger, faster, more athletic, bigger. There are too many guys walking the streets today who look like athletes but who don't have the skills to play a sport, not to mention excel at it. It takes skills to learn to utilize your potential.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
And Luka can beat you with footwork, IQ desire and fundamentals
@mrdeebo3137 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's crazy these former pro athletes didn't bring this up. Bron had to put in the work to be able to finish at the rim like he did.
@kingcollins39657 ай бұрын
@@mrdeebo313you prove that it's idiots all over the internet 😂😂😂
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
@@mrdeebo313bra he calls for screens to get the weaker defender on him and takes advantage 🥱which forces a double team then he kicks to open shooters🥱
@apng88797 ай бұрын
Not.... that's not how that works at all 😂😂😂😂😂
@vic3knight3107 ай бұрын
Rashad just isn't a winner. You see how hard he tried to discredit two MVPs? 😂 trying to talk that up as just stats is idiotic, but I would expect nothing less from a player who doesn't have a fraction of LeBron résumé.
@gregharper63827 ай бұрын
Facts! Absolutely fuckin absurd!
@Mason_237 ай бұрын
Lol I was waiting he try to bring skills in so he can discredit two mvps.
@dulla_156 ай бұрын
Don’t compare anything to LeBron he is in a league of his own!
@corpyhogan44337 ай бұрын
That "pure hooper" nonsense was created by guys who needed to put their favorite underachieving Hoopers on a pedestal over more accomplished guys. For example, guys like TMAC or Grant Hill versus LeBron or Giannis
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
TRUE LUKA STILL BETTER THO Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@vic3knight3107 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouthird time you've copy and pasted this and liked your own comment 💀
@KaevonDyer-sq3ho7 ай бұрын
No tf is wasn't that shit been around since the beginning guys with better footwork and skill was always praised more ..
@corpyhogan44337 ай бұрын
@@KaevonDyer-sq3ho yeah if you were born in the year 2006 or some shit. They quite literally said in the last dance that people remember resumes not their skills.
@galactic48307 ай бұрын
@IknowMoreThanYou lil boy said JJ Barea and ended it with bronsense. If that ain the most telling sign of a closeted bronsexual there is 🤣🤣
@saucegod7087 ай бұрын
Bron would averaged 34 10 10 this era at 25 and im not even bron fan
@jalilcook51137 ай бұрын
bron couldn’t shoot like that at age 25.. he’d be zion literally..
@actionjackson86897 ай бұрын
No he wouldn't. Bron has never been that great of a rebounder for 6'9. Passer, ok. And he couldnt shoot well. Most his points were inside. The top scorers can shoot, even Giannis is a better shooter then Bron at 25.
@UFunnyLowe7 ай бұрын
@@jalilcook5113Zion nice though he just be getting hurt
@UFunnyLowe7 ай бұрын
@@actionjackson8689Giannis is not no better shooter than Bron at 25
@breezyphontain96867 ай бұрын
I agree. Too many people on the perimeter. Bron was killing folks with paint packed
@DeuceGoOff337 ай бұрын
Definitely Big Hat. And there were way more stars in the league when Lebron was 25
@cheetahturner45767 ай бұрын
2007 nah bro was weak then
@DeuceGoOff337 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYou 1st “Bronsense” 👏 thats clean but maaaannnnn. How Luka play defense you would’ve thought he had stickem on the bottom of his shoes. He came into the league at the end of the warriors run rest of that conference wasn’t all that. Dame and Portland made a conference finals in that time too. So na bruh. Can’t give that to you. And if he had A Kyrie then he probably doesn’t leave Cleveland
@Cediedash227 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouevery time you comment it's a lie man come on
@moneymoney32357 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouso Danny ainge cooked mj 6-0 and bill lambier beat mj. 😮
@kylinmooney1677 ай бұрын
@@cheetahturner4576Bron was 22 in 07
@STYLEE-T2 ай бұрын
The smiles and applause was exemplary!😂🎉😂🎉😂🎉😂🎉
@kevinbeard45957 ай бұрын
LeBron a 2 way player its no comparison 🤷🏽♂️
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
Luka is Far Greater Offensively In Every Way ...
@DaveHaze7 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726 check his defence stats this season you can argue he's great defender or team defender i should say this season its like night and day what he added to the game. 9th in steals this season is no potato i would say.
@tonydegante74497 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726two way dummy
@chay7707 ай бұрын
2 way player? who lebron guarded in the 09 magic? mikael pietrus? you talk as if bron defended the best players every series hell na, bron is great but luka is a killer. trash talk him and he gets better
@oloscarlopez87 ай бұрын
True. At age 25 Luka is better shooter
@tawanjackson70447 ай бұрын
Rashad is a pure hater it's nasty and he be on Kobes Nuts
@unsabahnur3857 ай бұрын
He right though
@tylercanton38367 ай бұрын
You be on Bron?
@anthonydavis33397 ай бұрын
watch yo mouth about Kobe bitch
@kalleyskywalker52797 ай бұрын
@@tommygunn2782😂
@Cream-21287 ай бұрын
Saying Kobe 6 straight mvps is the most insane shit ever.
@LiveFromtha6157 ай бұрын
Nick vs Kmart was Hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@THEM4RC7 ай бұрын
“Nick you’re 40”😂😂😂
@ConradSly7 ай бұрын
it doesn't take skill to be faster than someone else, but it does take skill to play basketball at higher speeds...
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
1986 Celtics = The Beautiful Game ... That's Playing the Game at High Speeds & High Skills ... High Skills Changes Tempos At Will ...
@penkima49237 ай бұрын
What you mean it doesn't take skill to be faster? Of course it takes skill.
Embiid was hands down the mvp this season if not for the injury.
@mkingadiffernce6 ай бұрын
Lebron was playing against Kobe, Chris Webber, Kenyon, Brandon Jennings, Gilbert, dwade, steph curry, Paul pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rondo, Melo, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Manu, Tony Parker, Jason Kidd, Nash, Paul George, When Lebron played it was a different league then when luka or Jokic playing right now.
@ntnnot6 ай бұрын
You guys' points don't matter. Yeah, the competition e.g. can be a legit point. But that's irrelevant here. The point is Kenyon's lack of logic. On one instance dude is listing the number of MVPs to make an argument player A is above player B. Very simple according to him in this regard. Elsewhere the number of MVPs is suddenly irrelevant. No logic, no consistency. Wait... I do see the common denominator: the Euro/white guy will always be ranked 2nd. Now that's consistency you can bank on if you listen to Kenyon on this show. Recall he even had TMac above Luka (Doncic e.g. 2nd _all-time_ in points per game in the playoffs, behind only MJ. 31.1 PPG. TMac 22.2. Even if you adjust per 36 minutes: Doncic 28.8. TMac 23.2. TMac also _never ever_ got past the 1st round in the playoffs. Don't get me wrong TMac was a baller and my point is not to bag on him, but just to point out Kenyon's lack of logic. Talking out of his ass. For some reason always undermining the Euro guys.)
@kubackjeee6 ай бұрын
@@waynejeffery6995lmao I love him but he was clearly Stat padding in regular season against bums in the east
@IknowMoreThanYou6 ай бұрын
Chokic stole 2 of those mvps
@donutking4u29 күн бұрын
lebron was at his best on the first cavs stint ATHLETICALLY speed wise no one was stopping him miami he got bigger and was unstoppable and still fast but not as fast, this man had multiple primes each different ways. nowadays he uses his iq and strength understandble because he isnt as fast anymore due to his age. but still faster then most players in the league, but he wasted his first 9 years of athletic prime time for a cavs team which didnt care about bringing a proper second star, mind you second best was a mo williams or a burnt out shaq 😭
@SunniMerlot7 ай бұрын
Shout out to Nick for losing like 20-30lbs
@jaydabliu7 ай бұрын
Bro... Running IS a skill.. There's a wholeass sport dedicated to people running faster than others.. Lol
@murakjin37257 ай бұрын
That's all GIANNIS do run and dunk
@marc_maeda7 ай бұрын
Running is a skill but genetically capped, you don't understand when you get to the top echelona these individuals there's a reason why many of them are black. There's two different muscle groups called slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers, the fast twitch muscle fibers are explosive and vice versa, we are genetically given these muscle compositions through birth and genetic inheritance, some people are simply faster than others at the start due to their inherent genetics, similarly to how someone is taller than another individual due to genetics.
@gregharper63827 ай бұрын
@@murakjin3725I’m not arguing that point when it comes to Giannis because I tend to think there’s truth in that but when it comes to Lebron that’s bullshit! Finishing at the rim is a skill that he’s quite adept at! Kenyon was capping trying to downplay Brons skillset. Not even with the Luka argument just speaking on Bron as an individual
@latortugapicante7197 ай бұрын
If you are fucking born with it it ain’t a skill. We are talking about basketball skills. Luka is one of the most skilled players ever. The less athletic you are the more skilled you gotta be
@Lovechie4life7 ай бұрын
GIFT ain't skills
@martymcfly84497 ай бұрын
“Bron had no jumper” Lebron first shot in the NBA: A jumper 😂😂 people just be talking when it comes to Lebron
@isaiahthomas44447 ай бұрын
Bron did NOT have a consistent jumper to start his career
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@LeoorLeonard7 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYoubrons biggest fan, repeatedly commenting the same thing lmao
@Kikibrat27 ай бұрын
@@LeoorLeonard They have to be a bot. They are literally on every fucking comment.
@Jhoncena227 ай бұрын
Ya one shot clearly disproves that point; the fuck kinda logic to Lebron fans even have?
@lsim933Ай бұрын
skill in the ability to utilize natural talent to produce results. Not all athletic players can use it skillfully.
@EvoQC7 ай бұрын
I went back and rewatched that 25 vs Detroit and oh boy was Kenyon WRONG about it not taking skill, that mf bron was cooking the shit out the pistons 😂
@mical2great7 ай бұрын
Stop disrepecting the GOAT. With no Elite HS program, with no Elite College program, didnt play for a professional team before gettin drafted yet had a team with Drew Gooden as the 2nd best player in the finals. Not a Kyrie irving who should be a top 75 player, weird ass haircut Drew Gooden
@RyanReed-zl3sm7 ай бұрын
Hottest Take I had in high school: Drew Gooden would have a better career and be a better player than Carlos Boozer.
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
The GOAT is Michael Jordan. Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@WavyDot7 ай бұрын
lol
@darylvondutch60967 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouyou copy pasting under several comments use your brain I know it hurts but try
@420Meatwad7 ай бұрын
@@RyanReed-zl3sm He was better than Boozer bro. I was a huge Drew Gooden fan. Mike Brown held back his career. Brown always told him to rebound the ball and he wouldn't get any plays run for him. Lebron, Z and Larry Hughes always had to get their shots and Drew would just get leftovers. That really pissed me off quite a lot. Drew had a good post game with a great touch on that hook shot. We also could have developed him into a 3 point shooter but nah, Potato head Mike Brown just always had Drew in the dog house partly because he has defensive lapses at times. I don't blame Drew for lapses either. I remember one of the games in Oakland Drew had many family members and friends at the game to see him play. Mike Brown gave him like single digit minutes that game. Smh
@xanderkush6747 ай бұрын
Aesthetic and Skill are 2 very different things that definitely warrant a conversation
@tonylawton24545 ай бұрын
Nigga what aesthetic? 😂😂😂 smdh
@cee.tooduh.3rd7 ай бұрын
Yoo This Is Wild
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
@thialhoinj1971 Luka's Superior Player ... Lebron is the Most Over-Rated Athlete of All Times / Most Over-Hyped Athlete of All-Times ... Luka's Better & Hasn't Peaked ...
@hunterx23x667 ай бұрын
@@bryanfox6726Bron Peak?🤔
@JF7_917 ай бұрын
We can’t be serious right now 😂
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@Cheezkrispies1317 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYouno one is stupid enough to believe that🤣
@ckaiborbor7 ай бұрын
They did serious bruh. Nasty business.
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYoustop the bronsense💯💯💯🫵🏿🔥you sir no exactly what your talking about
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
@@Cheezkrispies131 you're not smart enough to.
@Beloupa7 ай бұрын
Imagine someone said I am going pick you first because of your speed, but you have no skills. Como on Martin. Your skills were never as close as LeBron at 18
@damianhSlayer7 ай бұрын
Luka was snubed MVP in NBA,thats number 1.Number 2 Luka WAS MVP and champion in euroleague when he was 18,that got to worth something.Number 3,he was also champion of Europe with Slovenia,which is by no means an easy task,crazy good european teams!Number 4,who has better numbers?And the most important thing-what if he wins nba ring this year?Because they beat twolves easily?hmm..Who is better by 25 then?Did Lebron have a chip by then?Or did he win his first chip when 28?.
@robp.86697 ай бұрын
Lebron was better, he often picked up the other teams best player on defense and still got numbers offensively
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@kabeperry67747 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYou18-25 idiot not 27 dumbass
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
No he didn’t bra💯😭and the media made excuses for him saying you can’t expect him to guard the best player and run the offense💯you out here lying🫵🏿😭
@kabeperry67747 ай бұрын
@@Dipset415 he did bro the footage is there you are lying
@Dipset4157 ай бұрын
@@kabeperry6774 yeah the footage is there for parts of the game not most of it💯lebron was never a good on ball defender Paul George and kwahi became famous for cooking Lebron on the big stage. Don’t hit me with stats I saw the actual games
@shaquillewhite77087 ай бұрын
You on dope or dog food got me crying.😂
@RonaldTungol-j8d7 ай бұрын
Funniest part about this shit, everybody in Gilbert’s house, but him lol 😂
@IKEBULLTV6 ай бұрын
American basketball is on the downfall in my opinion keep black coaches away from these young players they not teaching these guys to play basketball.
@jonathansurovell35167 ай бұрын
Before looking at the details of their offense, the defense puts Lebron way ahead of Luka. I remember Lebron absolutely locking down an MVP (Derrick Rose) and a Hall of Fame PG (Tony Parker). People forget how incredible Lebron's defense was when he was in his prime.
@mkingadiffernce6 ай бұрын
Yes they do and I forgot that Lebron played a prime drose but I knew about Tony Parker. And the league was different then too
@danhantheman6 ай бұрын
And Steph curry in finals and Jamal Murray 2020
@michaelb39277 ай бұрын
K-Mart is my favorite when he’s fired up! It’s hilarious! Best member of the arena
@yay5686 ай бұрын
Loud and wrong
@ceyunmatthews77137 ай бұрын
They’re sitting there ARGUING about nothing
@marvinmj70757 ай бұрын
Facts
@gseric47216 ай бұрын
Honestly....I think this all has to do with Swaggy P 😂😂😂😂
@TheChris911736 ай бұрын
@@gseric4721because swaggy know they are outrageous
@LJ0234 ай бұрын
Let me leave accolades and stats out of this conversation. Just by saying lebron at 25 like Luka, lebron was bigger, stronger, faster, a better defensive player, better passer, more will to win, made teammates better, and probably a better scorer, could guard 1-4 and 1-5 in some ocations.Also lebron was smarter and higher IQ.
@keepitthoro7 ай бұрын
Kenyon be f’n up the vibe he be way too serious lmao smh
@penkima49237 ай бұрын
He was trying to stand in for Gil, and he was able to be nearly as trash.
@zellgierspoint45777 ай бұрын
Running fast is a skill yall slow everything done on the nba court is a SKILL!
@ghcanestro58597 ай бұрын
It's like saying bolt not skilled but he is fast 😂😂, poeple are glorifying wemby even his skills are worst than Brandon. Miller but that skill for a 7ft4 it's out of this world. This why poeple say Iverson the best p4p player if you take off height.
@zellgierspoint45776 ай бұрын
Facts everything is a skill local motor or motor 😂😂 but Wait wait Wemby is not human don’t put Brandon miller in the same sentence lol!
@ghcanestro58596 ай бұрын
@@zellgierspoint4577 i think you didn't get the point. Why poeple would take Bron over pg13 even if pg handle better shot better? Better on 1vs1. If we do it like 2k rating I prefer have a 7ft with 84 overall than 6ft 94 overall. Wemby is an alien because of his skills on his body. If he was 6ft5 you think he still alien?
@solodolo33787 ай бұрын
They really said speed and jumping high isn’t a skill. If you can improve on it it’s a skill.
@shesbaldbutiwould7 ай бұрын
not really its a physical attribute,dribbling shooting passing those are skills
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@Freddy-kw5hq7 ай бұрын
It’s not skill you can see Luka isn’t the fastest can’t jump the highest but he manages to score at a crazy rate
@solodolo33787 ай бұрын
@@IknowMoreThanYou what does that have to do with the video? Stop trying so hard.
@solodolo33787 ай бұрын
@@Freddy-kw5hq so, something one person can do, that others can’t would be called a skill.
@DontaeBradley-l6m6 ай бұрын
LEBRON James to Sacramento KINGS LEBRON jr. An KEVIN DURANT
@joshuafoster79317 ай бұрын
Why they putting a dumb ass tweet up for this topic. They should be embarrassed by this. Lebron his fourth year had carried a team to a finals. He didn't need a kyrie to save his ass
@jhonagha62797 ай бұрын
Exactly, with no kyrie Luka would be ass
@IknowMoreThanYou7 ай бұрын
@@jhonagha6279 Bron was 27 when JJ barea cooked him and the Mavs let him brick wide open Jumpers and was losing to Dwight Howard in a weak East at 25. The West has been Tougher Lukas entire career and this is his 2nd conf fon trip. Luka better Stop the bronsense.
@brxndaveli58347 ай бұрын
Lebron lost in the finals with Wade and Bosh to JJ Barrea and another white European guy named Dirk. Tf are you talking about.
@joshuafoster79317 ай бұрын
@@brxndaveli5834 JJ barea was the starting of on that team and dirk is not a hall of famer? No weirdo with no bball IQ, tf you talking about?
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
He had to carry or chose to carry?
@death2you4597 ай бұрын
"WE all run straight!"😂🤣🤣🤣😅😂
@Billabongbabalog7 ай бұрын
10:22 killed me
@shinsukecorbin4257 ай бұрын
Kenyon then said go look at the Detroit game when Bron dropped 25 straight..Crazy thing about that is half of those points came off of jumpshots
@LH2KPresents7 ай бұрын
Who went to the finals within 3 seasons of being drafted?
@cheetahturner45767 ай бұрын
Weak era back then
@franciscomaddox68077 ай бұрын
East was ass
@ImMe201277 ай бұрын
Then I guess Wade was better than Bron back then since Wade won before Bron…
@Masterbiracial7 ай бұрын
@@ImMe20127it doesn’t work that way when it comes to bron.
@dariusgumbs71437 ай бұрын
Bron and is was better but y’all go off 😂
@KCNoJojoTV6 ай бұрын
Nick is whybthe nba was so easy fo4 lebron man's were too busy watching him n getting out da way... not playing d. Nick don't understand wats skills are.
@tahderich7 ай бұрын
Only cap that makes Rashad head not big. Funniest part was Rashad disagreeing with the fact everyone was happy he wasn't going to pull a Skip Bayless and try to by 2% right.
@andreasmakoben24557 ай бұрын
I think he thought about the jump Bron took when he was in Miami. The man went from an all-time great to the goat
@iamtheculturetv73807 ай бұрын
The thing is Bron been doing this for 20yrs but Luka doing his thing. He's gonna be in the conversation one day...
@JerichoCastille7 ай бұрын
Not with LeBron.
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
@@JerichoCastille He's Far Past That Already ... He's Going to Be Really Great ...
@agayactornamedmichaeldougl62897 ай бұрын
@@JerichoCastilleLuka is better than Lebron. The true successor to kobe and MJ
@DevinStone-sf9vn7 ай бұрын
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289Stay off the drugs
@JerichoCastille6 ай бұрын
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 Ridiculous.
@redstickstat2256 ай бұрын
Kenyon Martin should be the last one talking about skill
@garyphillips55106 ай бұрын
??? So Kenyon didn’t have skill?u tripping
@Dwade324 ай бұрын
Naw he didnt. Kenyon was just jumping around with 0 jumper @@garyphillips5510
@SeeJayTML4 ай бұрын
On that couch ok
@Emac0006 ай бұрын
In a league with Tim Duncan KG TMAC Kobe DWade Melo AI Dirk Nash LeBron had 2 MVP’s
@YuriTarded-hf1nv7 ай бұрын
People for real don’t talk about what Kenyon mentioned about that eastern conference finals against the pistons where Lebron had the last 25/26pts scored. That was crazy
@MrJohnmoua266 ай бұрын
29/30 but 25 straight
@benjaminireland70966 ай бұрын
People talk about that all the time when talking about lebrons finals appearances. But I don't know how anyone thinks that's a point against Luka, considering what Luka just did to the Wolves, the #1 defense in the league, for the entire series, but also scoring 20 in the 1st Qtr of a closeout game, on the road. Also at 25 LeBron didn't have anything in his bag like Luka's step back game winner in game...2? that step back gam
@Thurokiir16 ай бұрын
@@benjaminireland7096 Also at 25 LeBron didn't have anything in his bag like Luka's step back game winner in game...2? Ya he did, he could get to the rim wheneverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he wanted. Like Ja Morant but with 100 more pounds. Lebron could do whatever, whenever.
@dontaybell59026 ай бұрын
Defense was PLAYED COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AT THAT TIME. Secondly that INEXPERIENCED TIMBERWOLVES team. Was nothing compared to the Pistons at that time@@benjaminireland7096
@diegochavez62036 ай бұрын
Hahah so what kuka outscored the whole suns team by himself the #1 seed that was talking mad sh.. pisotns had no bigs no ven wallace
@GodAli-wy7ob7 ай бұрын
Luka don't even play defense yo😐. You can't compare the 2.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m7 ай бұрын
Luka can play defense when he wants to
@GodAli-wy7ob7 ай бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m yeah. But he will never be All Defense. Lebron already had two 1st team all defense at that age. It's no comparison.
@mrb.24977 ай бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mand that’s the problem.
@johnsepulvedacruz64287 ай бұрын
Offensively luka is more skilled specially at that age and its not close.
@GodAli-wy7ob7 ай бұрын
@@johnsepulvedacruz6428 Well, the question was " who was a better player at that age". And since Lebron had a scoring title, 2 First team all defense spots, amongst all the other accolades. It's clear that he was the superior player. Basketball is played on 2 ends. And Lebron is still a better defender at 40 than Luka is at his age.
@ren.nshrimpy7 ай бұрын
The only thing he said in tweet that was true. It’s not even close Lebron >>> Luka
@bryanfox67267 ай бұрын
Luka's Clearly Better, Better in Every Aspect of Offense, Better Rebounder, Higher IQ, Much More Clutch and not as far behind on d as you'd like to believe ... get over it ...
@StevenDaddy12996 ай бұрын
You can train to be faster it is a skill, Usain Bolt isn't ONLY naturally faster than me (everyone else on the planet) he is also the most skilled at running- as In his mechanics are smooth and efficient
@qbcomicaddict25907 ай бұрын
If Luka wins a finals mvp that beats two regular season mvps
@studentofthesaviors.o.s7 ай бұрын
OK? And LeBron has 2 all defensive 1st teams and was runner up DPOY. Which Luka doesn’t have any convo in. Not to mention Luka has Kyrie Irving assisting him. LeBrons best scoring teammate when he was 22 years old and had his first finals appearance was Larry Hughes…. Who averaged 11 points in the playoffs 🤦🏾♂️ LeBron was carrying his entire team on his back as a 22-year-old. LeBron James at 25 was better than Luka. It is not even a debate
@gorcsauce6967 ай бұрын
Lebron never had help that equlivelnt of lamelo taking charollote to nba finals buddy hello no and Luka game wouldn't be the best in 2000s lol toughest era he would still be great but no
@parisbarton43047 ай бұрын
4x Final MVP. I know talking the age 25 but relax my guy. 10 Finals appearance. 4x League MVP. Are you stupid. Luka idolized Lebron. That's a FACT. That was his favorite player. Luka even got autograph Lebron shoes and Jersey
@laxus64426 ай бұрын
@@studentofthesaviors.o.sSo why did he lose when he made a super team? He had 2 top 10 players in his team.
@studentofthesaviors.o.s6 ай бұрын
@@laxus6442 irrelevant to the argument. The argument is by the age of 25 what they accomplished and who was better. LeBron did not go to Miami until he was 26.
@DJeezy0076 ай бұрын
Rashad was trying his hardest to hate on Lebron lol
@Miaholmes49527 ай бұрын
Who went to the finals within 3 seasons of being drafted
@hang0okbo17 ай бұрын
**4 seasons**
@DaveHaze7 ай бұрын
one was already mvp and in finals wining it all at age 18 :) Euroleague isnt little piece of cake buddy. Luka was in Western conference finals in his 3d year. Also Luka's stats are better in all departments at the same number of games played so he's on a pace to do it everything faster. Bron was a monster DNA wise but Luka is god compared skill wise.
@oloscarlopez87 ай бұрын
They got swept
@shinsukecorbin4257 ай бұрын
Hakeem
@dropsixteentvtv41497 ай бұрын
If Bron went into the Euro league at 18 he'd have multiple trophies by 25. Brah gtfoh with this take lmao. @@DaveHaze
@toerawyea4 ай бұрын
it don’t take skill to run faster , but it takes skill to run WITH THE BALL , without traveling maneuvering around defenders , footwork with jumping . if not they wouldn’t need point guards to bring ball up court the big men could do if
@Neuraesthetic6 ай бұрын
Yes it takes skill to be faster lol. Sometimes we think Lebron just narturally that fast he played football and gained skills to be that quick
@ZaMorant17332 ай бұрын
Luka nowhere near better than bron at 25 😭😂😂
@c-meezy7657 ай бұрын
Imagine if prime Bron didn't play defense. He'd be putting up 40 pt triple doubles lol
@mkingadiffernce6 ай бұрын
Facts
@onlyfacts31786 ай бұрын
he doesnt play defence
@nathanielmorgan35926 ай бұрын
@@onlyfacts3178 current Bron doesn't play defense. Prime Bron was an absolute menace.
@onlyfacts31786 ай бұрын
@@nathanielmorgan3592 PRIME MENACE?? he was leaving his man alone to get rebounds...
@onlyfacts31786 ай бұрын
@@nathanielmorgan3592 WAS HE ??? 0,4 more steals and 0,2 more blocks..WOW a MENACE 🤣🤣
@J_b_566 ай бұрын
It takes SKILL to apply speed to the game of basketball... it's not running in a straight line. Cmon
@KeenanCam7 ай бұрын
I’m from Cleveland and the same high school league as LeBron . LeBron was phenomenally skilled in high school and beyond they have to stop . In high school he did everything . They are hating on him .
@onlyfacts31786 ай бұрын
so i wonder why his first seasons he lost all those skills hahahahahah
@KeenanCam6 ай бұрын
@@onlyfacts3178 how so
@jima77566 ай бұрын
Luka’s jumpshot was way better than Bron’s ugly a$$ brick shot
@NotAnAstronaut2k6 ай бұрын
Truee
@Dwade326 ай бұрын
LeBron drives fifty times better than Luka's drives
@andrewchester35277 ай бұрын
Crazy how uneducated these people are on what is happening in the league that they played in!
@Daitroit6 ай бұрын
All I could sit here n think.. this like the podcast for the dumb nba players
@andrewchester35276 ай бұрын
@@Daitroit this and club 520 like the flunkie group 😂 we call em held back lmfao
@Daitroit6 ай бұрын
@@andrewchester3527 😂man cus it’s no way these mfs say the stuff they do lmao
@jonathanbonds39066 ай бұрын
Acting like he scored 25 straight just running by everyone is crazy. Or bulldozing mfs for 25 straight points is crazy. Comparing Giannis to Young Lebron is DELUSIONAL WORK
@aneedkassim97277 ай бұрын
no one ever compared james harden to Lebron all these years and thats who Luka is most comparable to.
@creshondasmith44487 ай бұрын
I said the same thing 😂
@jonnstewart20237 ай бұрын
They dont even play the same
@aneedkassim97277 ай бұрын
@@jonnstewart2023 the narratives and who people like always lead to hypocrisy and mistruths. they say they hate flopping when its bron or harder but jokic murray luka flop and cry all game and its cool and acceptable or gets explained away
@kubackjeee6 ай бұрын
Imo luka better then bron at age 25. LeBron was good was was called lechoke in clutch. Luka has killer mentality. All the stats are also on side of luka
@Dwade326 ай бұрын
The no defense stats? Oh forgot defense never matters