Gil's Arena Debates If Melo Could've Been BETTER Than LeBron

[@cap536]

They should’ve had this debate with K Mart there….he played on Denver with Melo so he would know best

[@Geronimo410]

I think they gone ask it again when he comes back because his answer would probably be the most valid

[@devingibson4]

I’m mad wasn’t there. He woulda cussed Gil out.

[@CubanDollThickness]

And Knicks

[@mackvtv456]

It woulda took him ten minutes for three sentences

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

@@devingibson4and he still wouldn’t be right. Melo wasn’t doing anything to be better than lebron. He just wasn’t on his level and couldn’t get there, period.

[@MrDiipp]

Saying Melo couldn’t average 20 when Tayshaun Prince was avg 15 is blasphemy!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@LuQaBras1]

I dont know where yall are a getting 15 from he avg 10 on that championship team on 9 shots and making 4, whereas melo was taking 18 shots his rookie year and shot a worse percentage than tayshuan, so it’s easy to say melo wouldn’t avg 20 when you use logic.

[@tellthetruthrightnow]

Melo with that Detroit would have been another dynasty. All that team needed was another bucket getter

[@LuQaBras1]

@@tellthetruthrightnow like Gil said Melo would’ve been another harden on OKC or Manu on the Spurs, because of how Larry Brown would’ve used him. Rip was taking 15 shots and Chauncey and Rasheed were taking 13 and all three still had to play defense, so to think Melo would get anywhere close to the amount of shots they got on a Larry Brown team when he prioritized team and defense is crazy.

[@xavierb9061]

Melo makes pistons worse. Now clear defensive weakness. Dont say offense, they have clear weakness in wallace. Changes team

[@Raptor77.]

@@LuQaBras1he would’ve been harden for okc AT THE TIME .. but in 09 when they would’ve got rid of the ogs he would be solo and avg 25+ like what happened when harden went to houston

[@georgehunter3498]

I can see Camelo breaking through like Kawhi did in San Antonio 💯

[@clarencesmith467]

Yeah TP would of came off the bench if he had to very humble guys and knew how to win

[@georgehunter3498]

Camelo came in the league a champion 💯The veterans on the team would’ve been better for him and his development

[@edwardnigma9037]

Kawhi played defense well

[@georgehunter3498]

@@edwardnigma9037 Camelo is a good defender also

[@edwardnigma9037]

@@georgehunter3498 when he put in effort. That was barely

[@Cowslike2moo]

Gil forgets Billups and Mello played together for his best playoff run. This may be the only time I agree with McCants

[@naujud216]

That and McCants is essentially describing what happened with Kawhi in San Antonio.

[@tyrellmarshall3697]

Difference system different coach

[@VinceDaPops]

This was a moronic move of the Detroit Pistons. Melo would've continued the dynasty and made them relevant after that 04 chip.

[@quentonwillis3846]

The 04 team would have looked entirely different if they drafted Melo in 03 though. They would'nt have gotten Sheed and Prince likely wouldn't have developed the same.

[@VinceDaPops]

@@quentonwillis3846 This is a good take. But Sheed was going towards the last few years of his career. Prince development might've been affected the following year since Melo would've probably been the 6th knowing Coach Brown's philosophy.

[@jordananthony5882]

​@@quentonwillis3846Sheed was well established already. As for prince he would ha been alright. More like a kawhi role when he was with the spurs

[@quentonwillis3846]

@vincentcortez4816 I made a typo. I meant to say they would have gotten Sheed. If they draft Melo, they probably don't draft Josh Smith who they would trade to get Sheed. It becomes a very different team.

[@quentonwillis3846]

@jordananthony5882 I made a typo. I meant to say they would have gotten Sheed. If they draft Melo, they probably don't draft Josh Smith who they would trade to get Sheed. It becomes a very different team.

[@GHOST91141]

Melo playing with Sheed, Big Ben, Rip, Billups & Prince could've made Melo a better leader & damn sure a better defensive player

[@JohnSmith-sw9vq]

Plus being coached by Larry Brown would have definitely helped his game. That team would have been great.

[@CodeSwift01]

Some people just don’t wanna do things that nigga melo only cared about the bag and putting the ball in hoop, I doubt he’d improve on defense that’ll might make it worse tbh

[@TradingGzwithG]

Melo only played defense against 2 players, Lebron and Kobe. If you wasnt on his iso scoring level or superstar status he didnt play defense lol. He would lock Lebron up and give him 30

[@vsioljones2549]

They wouldn’t have had Sheed yet. Pistons didn’t get sheed until Mid year and they went on to win the chip

[@jsongz201]

@@TradingGzwithGthat’s facts lol

[@andreandrews6237]

Gil trying to make it seem like Melo would have had to sit on the bench for a long time is nuts. Also he didn’t just up and develop his style in the league, he was incredible in isolation at Syracuse

[@jerryfrenchy4152]

Faces

[@jerryfrenchy4152]

Facts*

[@Jiren2x]

315

[@johnsonrosario8293]

🧐Melo was already 🦾Melo when he🤔🏆won NCAA tournament championship🥱

[@TerrenceHeyward]

Melo cooking fools in practice somebody getting benched 😂😂

[@laurenmiles3303]

Melo didn't have a bad career he's top ten scoring all time... He should've won a Chip with one of those Denver teams. Melo is great.

[@casualgamer4898]

no ones saying he had a bad career just not near lebron's level

[@sirnamejames1992]

Thank you I won’t comment any further

[@shinobu37]

He’s good not great

[@pokerNGold]

Well said

[@MARZOSIRUS]

Melo could have sacrificed a little money to join a better team like Detroit. He could have made up the money through endorsements. Just think about it this way. Michael Jordan damn near played for the minimum until late in his career. MJ chose to optimize his team over the NBA contract. So his off court endorsements shined because of his winning status as the greatest.

[@1big30czhk]

Bro how y’all gone have this discussion without Kenyon and he played with him on two teams!!!! That’s crazy 😂😂

[@whatwouldnoviedo4571]

The funniest thing about all of this is we never have to play “what if’s” with Lebron because he is what we already know he is & that’s why people hate him it’s funny actually

[@DakotaBellamy]

Yep! Ron Artest said he played a pickup game with him at a gym it was Ron & a couple of league guys & artest said at the age of 16 he could’ve played in the league if possible the interview is on here if you look it up

[@oldbabeee-4250]

Gil tripping... Talking about he learned to score like that in Denver.. Lets not forget he took Syracuse to the championship and won.. This dude been a scorer before he came to the league

[@iamkingknight]

Facts I was just saying this to myself he would’ve came into the league with a team winning mind set so saying he couldn’t come to Detroit and not be a killer and team player is crazy

[@jaybee6892]

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

[@Ybthadreadhead]

@@jaybee6892the same exact way it is now.

[@vincentemireles3794]

@@Ybthadreadheadstfu lmao ppl like you feed into dumb ass conversations like this

[@sinbad5721]

@@Ybthadreadhead he would have 6 chips

[@cspill99]

Melo working out with Sheed, Ben and Prince everyday. He would have been one of the best to every do it!

[@absalompiankhitv]

On God 🙏🏿🤣

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Because they would’ve taught him how to be a solid defender

[@karu2995]

It wasn't about teaching it was desire. Melo didn't defend because he didn't want to.

[@cspill99]

@karu2995 I never mentioned anything about defense. Offensively, he would have been training daily against three of the top big defenders in the league. Imagine the elevation of that.

[@paulcoleman4663]

A Barkley with handles & a 3

[@704jizzle2]

Even THE PISTONS PLAYERS SAID MELO WOULD HAVE BEEN THE #1 OPTION FROM DAY 1

[@michaelscott2002]

Maybe 2nd to rip but Chauncey and Ty is out of the question

[@TyShizzle121]

they can say that in hindsight but we see every season how different dynamics play out in real life

[@back2back379]

Actually, Ben Wallace said he feels they would not have ever won a Championship if they drafted Melo because Melo was already a star and the chemistry would have been affected because Melo would have wanted more playing time. There's a reason there have been reports throughout Melo's career of him causing issues due to his selfishness, including from Chauncey Billups who stated Melo was too concerned with getting scoring numbers, that scoring was often more important to Melo than even winning the game. Larry Brown had Melo on the bench during the Olympics, and Melo basically discarded his medal. That's the kind of mindset and behavior that causes issues.

[@redeyespyone]

​@@back2back379Larry Brown should've played Melo. Maybe that's why they only won the bronze.

[@HoopsRaccoon]

You have no receipts or sources e and this has 45 upvotes 😂 Ben Wallace just said Melo wouldn’t have worked. So did sheed.

[@Gucci2Glocks]

lol the thought of Melo with the braids coming off the bench just don’t sit right with me😂

[@wUnknownPerson]

The fact that this is even a debate pisses me off, Carmelo would’ve never been better then lebron, while melo was know for primarily being a scorer, LeBRON is the best all around player of all time who can go out there and get you 30PTS 10+ REBOUNDS 10+ ASSIST on any giving night. This is blasphemy, but I’m not surprised most of the guys on this show are lebron haters as most people are😂😂

[@lawrence5466]

U do knw melo should have won rookie of the year right Denver team was better and they made the playoffs but u think melo wasn’t better haha u funny u most be a kid

[@HappyfaceSinner]

I like how Gil doesn’t like to engage in hypotheticals but fully predicted Melos career in this experiment 😂😂😂

[@NAS9088]

Was he a elite defender like every other top 10 player? But offense is what makes guys better😂😂

[@thechosen1860]

Gil right… melo would’ve been harden

[@jaybowman696]

😂😂😂😂

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Just because he's going with the topic doesn't mean he has to go with the LeBron haters he's telling the truth

[@ItsAhk2K]

Are you not realizing this whole question was hypothetical??????

[@chamdumba5666]

The past is not linear once I change one thing everything else changes

[@dochouse_]

ok yoda

[@XXX3134L]

@@dochouse_ lmaoooooooo

[@Aaron-mm4hf]

True, Melo winning 3 ruins Kobe and Boston big 3 legacy. That's not happening. Lebron didn't win until 11-12 all that happens. Because Melo would still be alone.

[@OFFISHAL_i20]

Carmelo Anthony was gone average 27 regardless of his teammates Melo is still Melo

[@dudutsulugulugan2911]

An overrated ballhog that shoots bricks and overall mediocre in efficiency. What's worse.. he is TERRIBLE defensively. Lebron is many times better and many times the better leader.

[@KalElDaily]

​@@dudutsulugulugan2911he out duel lbj in most of there meetings especially ny

[@YZ4hunnid]

Detroit had NO SUCH EQUIVALENT of KD and Russ lol

[@lefearfactor20]

All facts

[@RakelDaNell]

That was MY team... I got a video about it, and I agree.... we had NO such equivalent.

[@yasirriaz3032]

That’s what B and Mccants should have responded with. James couldn’t be who he was because they were in front - DT did not have a generational talent like that at the time. So they should’ve checked Gil on that but missed that opp

[@Call_Me_Con]

Melo would have taken Prince’s spot the way Kobe took Eddie Jones spot. This the first time I’ve agreed with McCants

[@djgarrett5377]

You want to know what separates Tatum from Luka? Defense. Melo was never going to be a good defensive player. Lebron does everything good.

[@waltjones6927]

So you cool with ROOKIE Melo guarding PRIME Kobe in the finals??

[@kennedy8926]

​@@djgarrett5377Melo was a good defender when he tried or depending on the matchup. Wasn't the best or all NBA for sure, but wasn't bad when the effort was there.

[@pathmark6081]

No doubt it because Larry Brown was a prick

[@dniquenation]

​@@waltjones6927doesnt matter who was guarding him in the Finals. Lakers were going to lose that Finals due to Kobe ego. He didnt want Shaq to have a 4th Finals MVP.

[@BlackMoneyMusic]

Gil missing the point Melo played at Cuse in an offense that he fit in, but stood out

[@Killa_Kamz]

No your missing the point like Mccants always does lol. Melo played in an offense that he just fit it, and still choose to do nothing but score. He would have never been anything like Harden no matter what. 61pts, 0 assist, 0 rebs, 0 blks and 0 steals ilwoth no defense is Gil's whole point. He wouldnt have had the shot Mccants thinks in Detroit because he would not have been the player Mccants just magically thinks he would have morphed into

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@Killa_KamzDetroit players would’ve made Carmelo a better 2 way player

[@Killa_Kamz]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Sure but to Gils point. He wouldnt have been the Melo Mccants keeps trying to just plug inyo the Pistons. And how long would it have taken if at all??

[@shawnskillz8808]

First of all Melo didn't have the ball in his hands 95% of the game as LeBron and Harden so of course they have a variety of more options to be efficient

[@maximusbenjamin8077]

Gil acting like melo wasn’t always gonna be melo, all Gil gotta do is look at his career, came in not playing but did his thing in the minutes he got then eventually got to a situation where he could do him, only difference is melo on Detroit would’ve potentially made melo a champion unlike Gil with the warriors and melo development with them vets would’ve been nice

[@Higharcent]

“Tony Parker ginobli melo” got me 😂

[@Alabaster.C.21]

Gil is all nonsense. Det would have repeated 04 & 05, Melo and piston would have went down as all time greats. Melo would have learned from the pistons to play hard defense and would have been a great 2-way player

[@josedelacruz256]

I agree with McCants. Melo’s career would have been very different with some rings.

[@tedlessor3887]

His whole game would be different because of those guys.

[@foshenthepanhandlechampion8189]

LeBron has had a larger responsibility other than scoring the ball

[@_ThatOneServant]

And he still scored alone with having to facilitate and guard

[@iunderstanphotography2780]

i was looking for this comment Lebron isn't all offense

[@wiiz2780able]

No, because LBJ is LBJ. Melo is Melo ,simple

[@dudutsulugulugan2911]

Melo is overrated. Always has been.

[@karu2995]

These what if are silly. That's like saying what if Bron was drafted but San Antonio instead of Cleveland. He's yet to play with a coach at that level and look what was accomplished.

[@Zenki8118]

The rare time that I agree with McCants. Carmelo's career would be a lot different if he was drafted by Detroit. Melo is already a generational scorer regardless of what team he plays on. Combine that with high IQ, ego-less vets in 04 Pistons & the defensive knowledge that they will instill in Melo's all-time offensive skills, jeez. Can only imagine.

[@majormontega]

Melo with that nightmare defence around him would’ve been crazy, wonder if they still get Sheed tho 🤔

[@HakeemTheDream616]

Exactly that whole team would've been different

[@ericclatterbuck6633]

They would not get Rashedd

[@jrelgran1on1]

They're still cold without Sheed Prince could've been very serviceable at the four.

[@TreeEl-gp2tx]

That Pac n Biggie shirt is 🔥

[@Ran_Ryaz]

Michael Jackson riding backseat

[@johnnguyen6469]

Nah those guys have long been gone from the face of this earth, led a very violent lifestyle and paid the ultimate price

[@jojor2917]

@@johnnguyen6469shut up Chinese boy

[@bigfish6742]

​@@johnnguyen6469so should he wear a shirt with a bunch of rockstars that died of heroin overdoses

[@johnnguyen6469]

@bigfish6742 no he should not. Wearing shirts to glorify drug use and gang violence? Why? Those men have been gone for like three decades now, it’s time to move on

[@flexermc4333]

Bron got a possibly worse team than Melo and had to carry the cavs for 7 years. And still he was a 2 time MVP in that poor roster.Melo never better than Bron

[@TheBilalUddin]

in th ecf melo made the plkayoffs EVERY YEAR IN THE WEST

[@deyontaewilkerson5886]

Thank you!!😂 Lebron was carrying bums and still thrived

[@amirmoney3221]

lebron left the Cavs remember that

[@Steveooter]

How old was bron when he did that? And what they talking about rookie Melo - year 3,4 ?

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

Roster wasn't poor

[@Quan1992]

It's a myth that Larry brown didn't like rookies. He aint like shit players

[@MHick15]

Melo career projection would’ve took a complete different approach on Detroit, he would’ve been a complete different player. You can’t remove his player DNA but he wouldn’t be the same!

[@bk2az1]

Good discussion!! But there’s far too many other factors to consider….like CHEMISTRY… Chemistry with the coach…and with teammates. It makes a difference

[@cordellbagley2269]

Melo in Detroit is also Kawahi in San Antonio.

[@coryvictorian7230]

Don’t disrespect Melo like tht

[@youngguado]

Not with Larry brown out there… y’all trippin

[@cordellbagley2269]

​@@youngguadoLarry Brown coached like Pop. Melo would have a Kawahi role when the big 3 were there. Then Brown would have to play Melo or trade him after his rookie deal was up.

[@JesusSaves33011]

​@@coryvictorian7230 prime Kawhi > Melo

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

Still wouldn’t have had a better career than bron

[@BTAKVE]

If he could have been he would have been. LeBrons passing, IQ, and willingness to play defense made the difference

[@shawnskillz8808]

Don't forget that LeBron played with 10 hall of famers in his career, Melo never had that cushion

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

@@shawnskillz8808that still doesn’t change the fact that Bron play style is more all around than Melo, even take away Brons accomplishments he’s still more than Melo

[@dellingtonarts3487]

Bruh said they "disintegrated" in 07 like the team got shot with an alien gun or something

[@Jay-ci4to]

Might as well had lol lebron beat them by himself damn near and ended them, it’s like when they died the Boston Celtics was born with kg nem

[@csouth89]

Gil is basing Melo not playing on Darko which is a mistake. I'm from Detroit and they would show clips of Darko in practice where he just wasn't ready for the NBA. Players pushing him out to make rotations. He was lost, that's on of the biggest reasons he didn't play. Melo might not have started, but would have played significant minutes as a rookie and made the Pistons that much better.

[@chriswil5919]

He probably would’ve started .. Tay probably would’ve been coming off the bench 6man .. Or Melo could’ve been that scoring 6man 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@iamnaimtheartist]

Gil also not remembering that Melo had a bad relationship with Carl. With a better coach we don’t know how great he’d be

[@thomaschapman6088]

But you’re still comparing him to Lebron. Everything you’re saying about Melo can be said about Lebron too. Melo had a better coach and players early in his career.

[@NCOMBHOODIE]

imma say this and imma lebron fan . it would’ve been more of a debate if melo got drafted to Detroit .

[@solo2778]

I think so to. Melo with those vets would've been different

[@TOoLoUd89292]

You don't have to say I'm a LeBron fan the real fans don't even say that because we know basketball and how it's played. Selfish players don't go far in the league

[@johnnguyen6469]

It’s not just about melo being selfish but the fact he didn’t work in his body enough like lebron did to really separate himself

[@phatch5444]

Lebron winning a chip on that Denver team. He’d defer to his vets hte said so himself.

[@NCOMBHOODIE]

@@TOoLoUd89292 your right about the fan part . i just don’t wanna come off as tho im hating wen in reality i been a lebron fan since i was 5 years old .

[@demonofpurgatory5188]

A ball hog vs a play that can do it all with extreme athleticism

[@drewland6140]

Lebron has no bag and check his usage rate ….Lebron definitely a ball hog just pass when he runs out of ideas

[@mjg6233]

@@drewland6140I checked his usage rate. It’s less than Michael Jordan. No bag ? Buddy he create moves . Bank three fades and all. and run a 4 5 at 260

[@dochouse_]

@@mjg6233go watch football

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

I guess Jordan a ball hog to

[@lucianodadon7822]

That had to team up with other niggas to create super teams

[@jamiehurling9544]

Good conversation fellas

[@josemariepacia4558]

Melo can unlock his skills on defense and being a team player if he was drafted in Detroit. It's like GIL is saying that he won't learn anything if he was with high IQ players. That does not make sense at all. Surrounding yourself with high IQ players make you a more dynamic player. Think about it GIL.

[@lawrence.peoples]

That dude said Melo was a 6’8 PG. 😂😂😂😂😂 And that Larry Brown would’ve let him cook, when we ALL KNOW Larry Brown didn’t even wanna play Bron, Wade and Melo in the Olympics. Let’s stop this shit.

[@Raptor77.]

Gil really disproved his own theory with the James harden example he gave😂

[@leeloot6243]

McCants slogan “Move tf around”

[@marcelljackson2868]

I'm on McCants side on this one I think Melo would have been fine coming off the bench early in his career. I think brown would have found a way to get him involved in the offense

[@NL-gf7rd]

Melo was cold straight bucket but could never fuck with bron

[@CFREUp]

Gil is 100% wrong, and for no reason 💯

[@tellitlikeitisfresh6541]

As always just a big goofy

[@stanleed.harold5457]

He stay 🧢🧢🧢🧢🤡💀🤷🤦

[@karletonmcbride8083]

​@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 you a goofy yoself

[@LuckyShowTime]

Melo in Detroit wins 2-3 rings and they would’ve built a team around him after Rip and Chillups got older.

[@jaybee6892]

What if Bron went to Detroit buddy what would his career look like

[@LuckyShowTime]

@@jaybee6892 😂😂😂 Gund wasn’t taking nobody but Bron in 03. I woulda took Melo first bc of what he did at Syracuse but that’s just me.

[@xavierb9061]

0 rings, changes team hes weak defender.

[@LuckyShowTime]

@@xavierb9061 You REALLY think Big Ben, Sheed, Rip, Chillups, Mike Curry, Lindsey Hunter, Mike James, and even Tayshaun woulda let Melo get by w/o playing defense? 😒😒😒😒😒

[@xavierb9061]

@@LuckyShowTime why did they win defense. Now him prince splitting minutes throws off focus. Melo prob traded, this is aft4 brown left iverson

[@corpyhogan4433]

You have to remember the gap between LeBron and Carmelo isn't just about skill. Carmelo by all accounts is more skilled than LeBron, but LeBron has a better work ethic.

[@yinkz15]

I disagree , melo just has a better jumper everything else id give to Bron

[@raymondsims7042]

@@yinkz15agreed

[@OGE585]

​@@raymondsims7042agreed

[@something2consider783]

Melo was not more skilled than LeBron. Melo's handles were weak. Definitely, he could not guard one through five like LeBron in his prime. Further, he could not go coast to coast. Melo had a half-court game.

[@raymondsims7042]

@@something2consider783 for some reason casuals don’t count defense as a skill🤷‍♂️

[@cresv422]

My opinion is that Larry brown ruins melos first 3 seasons and he’s never gets confidence or opportunities on other teams

[@robertgrier8943]

Larry brown didn’t even play young players

[@PrinceDJj]

Why are they trying to argue which one is wrong when this whole debate is hypothetical? Nobody knows what Melo would have been with the Pistons. He could have won three titles, and by year three, he could have been the focal point of the team. Rashad has a point, and so does Gil. You are both right. There are no wrongs in a hypothetical. That's why you can't argue hypotheticals because nobody knows what would have happened.

[@617boston6]

This is a question for kenyan. I think he would have more insight

[@ricoeab2]

Come on yall, we can say "if"!! Thats like saying "if" my Auntie had nuts she'd be my uncle! 😂

[@donyutejamaica631]

🤭🔥🔥🔥🔥😀😀😀 Love it!

[@bw6291]

People forget Melo was the real Rookie of the year. He definitely wouldve been a thorn in Bron side had he been drafted to the Pistons

[@mr.r4910]

And you're on crack he would've been better than kobe

[@Maja-hs5pd]

Agreed same thing happened a year or 2 after with Ben Gordon and emaka okafor

[@gtr0k]

No because there's more to basketball than iso scoring. There's passing and defense lol

[@enybrooklyn5482]

Joe dumars would of got rid of Larry Brown for holding Melo back eventually he’s the boss not Larry🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@christurner2684]

Melo had the talent to be but not the mentality, drive,and determination to be better than Bron

[@mjg6233]

No tf he didn’t

[@FrozeBone]

He didn't have Lebrons level of talent either.

[@jmu76featuring61]

Thats the point tho..off the bench rookie year w those guys leading him..his mentality would of been different for sure

[@anthonylockhart6120]

Melo was a better scorer than lebron ​@@FrozeBone

[@Sausedeez5666]

That's a negative

[@sylanderhopkins6665]

McCants just want ppl to move around 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaybee6892]

Stupid conversation, what if Lebron went to Detroit

[@thetruth14444]

4 CHIPS EASY

[@obadiahalonzo1288]

That would have been Crazy

[@RakelDaNell]

I cry thinking about the pick we made that year. Tears.

[@mowilliams8511]

Detroit had a opportunity to take melo #2 in the 03 draft instead they draft a big goofy name Darko . LeBron went first so they couldn't take LeBron..

[@ronelldeadrick9252]

The 09 nuggets were deep af. I hate when they say he never played with anyone

[@Pillio-tw3ws]

Why did yall have this convo with out KMart 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@HakeemTheDream616]

This is one of the all-time great what if's in NBA history lol

[@djgarrett5377]

For real haha. Got me asking “what if Lebron went to the Spurs?”

[@IsaiahEss-uq4yv]

McCants making some sense for once

[@stanleed.harold5457]

He's way better than gil lately

[@shottafps]

Gil is obviously intelligent, but I hate when he plays dumb just for the sake of engagement. Like, we’re gonna watch regardless. Stop saying “you’re doing hypotheticals” in one breath, then use hypotheticals in the next. McCants won this - get your feet in the bodybag, Gil.

[@NOELZ45]

Im.not sure on mello being better than Lebron because mello.battle lebron and lebron Got best when he play for cavs And mello on denver nuggets 😮😮😮😮😮

[@tempus369]

Same could be said of Bron didn’t get drafted by Cleveland

[@MikeStew07]

You can't do hypocriticals because it's endless. Melo goes to Detroit, then the entire draft changes. Year after year.

[@sportingarena6462]

Best comment I’ve seen so far. The butterfly effect

[@BattleTruth]

Miami heat would have zero championships

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

​@@BattleTruth maybe

[@thomaschapman6088]

Miami only lost to the piston in Wades 2nd year because he got injured.

[@Jukeboxster]

I don't understand the question. Melo had a long career, he had 100% control of his ability to be better and he wasn't. Could he have racked up some championships playing for Detroit? Sure but team accomplishments don't make a player better than another. I guess they mean could he have had a better *career*? Still no but championships for Melo would've put him in some interesting conversations.

[@matheobavogui7493]

This right there. I don't think they even understand what they are about. Melo was not better than Bron coming into the draft. So yeah, Give him 3 rings and 3 finals MVP in Detroit and he is still not a better player.

[@eamorrison859]

I get what Gil is saying. Melo's mindset would've changed because of the culture. He wouldn't have turned into the self player because that wasn't the culture in Detroit.

[@TyShizzle121]

people just missing the point because we know what the finished product looks like. if he's coming into a championship contender its a completely different dynamic than him automatically getting the keys like in Denver. that team wouldn't even call for him to score 20 until a player or two is traded or let go.

[@alod247]

@@TyShizzle121 That team needed a scorer bad. Melo would’ve been exactly what they needed. And he would’ve been the best player on the team by the end of the season

[@TyShizzle121]

@@alod247do you really think it’d just be that easy? Between how Gil said the coach wasn’t in favor of younger players and just the stars already there having egos I promise it wouldn’t go that smoothly. We see every season how egos and stuff derail or just flat out change teams.

[@Cfbfan223]

Both sides sound possible all I can say great debate no answer but great discussion

[@bodine113]

@@alod247no they didn’t lol

[@lionface1364]

This is a great question regardless of which side of the debate you support.

[@OptimisticGlaciers-en6ni]

Melo automatically comes in as the first option on a detroit team they didn’t have a legit scorer and melo is what they needed

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Look at mccants ready to diminish LeBron 😂 Man we know what type of player Melo is as a player. He had Kmart and A.i. and didn't get it done he didn't pass the ball enough.

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

Lebron had Shaq & multiple all stars

[@TOoLoUd89292]

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 every star y'all try to glaze he played with besides Ad and Kyrie were past their primes and Dwade was on the decline. Y'all haters say anything

[@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952]

@@TOoLoUd89292 past his prime wade almost won mvp the year before , melo never had the star power lebron had

[@TOoLoUd89292]

@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 man y'all casuals say anything. Can't just put players together and think it'll work. This isn't 2k and I bet you were the same one that thought KD harden and Kyrie was going to work when it clearly wasn't even Luka and Kyrie didn't work. LeBron knows how to win with guys and he's probably have more had his so called star power showed up example y'all say Kevin love but he shows up with 6 points in a game 5 SMH but that's star power y'all say Shaq when he was coming off the bench being a liability more than what he was with Kobe. C'mon y'all casuals say anything cause y'all are mad at FACTS

[@NyeemThomas-h6d]

Lebron had better teammates than everyone in a weak conference.: get off his nutssck

[@Rellprice4]

When Rashad is making more sense then you know you’re tripping .. Hiibachi’s ego will Not let him be wrong and I respect it 😂

[@djgarrett5377]

Depends on what you’re arguing. Yea Melo could have been a better player if drafted by the Pistons but better than Lebron? C’mon. That’s pretty much saying Melo would have been the GOAT because there’s only one player that has an argument over Lebron. Lebron has 40000 points and 10000 rebounds/assists. Melo ain’t getting that no matter who he’s drafted by. Y’all tripping just like Mcants.

[@mr.r4910]

You know what he would've made more sense if they said Carmelo would've been better than jordan or kobe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Casuals think melons inefficient points would make every team a championship 🤣🤣

[@ShawnGillespie-s5p]

Facts he scored that much because he was the only scorer they think he was just out here making every shot no he was TAKING every shot

[@MichiganHendough]

you thinking you know more than a person who played in the nba is hilarious lol.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

@MichiganHendough That has nothing to do with Corona Anthony being cancer to winning basketball. You betas can gossip "what ifs" all day it doesn't make melon less of an inefficient ballstopper that's horrible at defense and teamball, who only cares about 30pts and a check.

[@GoodyearSimp]

Would’ve been much better! Still don’t think he’d have been better than LeBron.

[@mellothegawd2904]

Gilbert is full of shit. Melo is coming out of SYR as a scorer winning the natty. Detroit was a defensive team. He would’ve been their focal point for offense.

[@chriswil5919]

Exactly, and tay would’ve been the defensive 6th man .. Melo would’ve kept that team from those scoring droughts that Pistons team use to have..#Detroit

[@BIGMIKE-mk9ce]

What the fuck is Gilbert arenas talking about😂😂😂😂😂

[@casualgamer4898]

never heard anyone say Melo over or close to lebron when he was still in the league now everyone in the comments picking Melo lol why do people increase your rank when you retire or die

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

It’s just contrarianism. No one with any basketball knowledge ever suggested Melo was more talented than Bron through his whole career. Because it’s a ridiculous thing to say. Thats not an insult to Melo, Bron is a top 2 player of all time.

[@LaP-f6m]

Oh you must be young lmao Melo at 1 point was the guy 😂

[@mr.r4910]

I know they are LITERALLY trying to crowbar kobe in the goat conversation soooooooo bad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@LaP-f6mI’m the same age as Lebron. No he wasn’t.

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Melo had a better rookie year and 2nd year melo was a better scorer for 5 years

[@phyllisbullet]

why gil acting like melo didn’t play basketball before the nba🤣

[@brettconstant2154]

😂😂😂

[@donmarquis08]

Convo would’ve been great with k mart perspective on this

[@tylerwilson8615]

The Pistons are run by people who clearly don’t know how to draft or develop. Melo may have never developed in Detroit.

[@YR_Killem]

Brandon jennings sassy af lmao

[@reef9084]

I’m not the only one that see it. His mannerisms and how he move his head when he argues. Always judging men outfits

[@professorzoom4467]

😂😂

[@jkassh9743]

When Melo was drafted he went into a better situation than Bron and always had the better team ( his first stint in Cleveland ) and didn’t do anything. He had every chance to have a better career and choose not to🤷🏽

[@vincentbrown3995]

Except he had to go through the spurs and lakers who were winning championships every year

[@MoeT-x3t]

He went to a 19 win team on the west. Hardly a better situation. Also Melo took Denver to the playoffs every year he was there. Lebron didnt.

[@freemind8227]

Gil Melo was better than you FACTS

[@raymondsims7042]

Truth but no anywhere near better than lebron though

[@andyheath5244]

@@raymondsims7042he was better his rookie season, after that bron took off

[@raymondsims7042]

@@andyheath5244 sure

[@Stonecoldalston]

0:09 he don’t become a better player then Lebron but he have atleast 2 rings maybe even 3

[@shayneraymond4207]

I get mc Cants is sayin tho, it makes sense.. melo wanted a ring and he could of gotten it in o4-o7

[@joshuaroach4045]

Gil a real life hater bruh the coach Larry brown had Iverson enough said smh

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

But in this A.I. was already on the team when Larry Brown arrived. Melo is a rookie here and some coaches don't like playing rookie right away.

[@kaelinjefferies9267]

How is he hating 😂? Anytime someone says something y’all don’t like it’s considered hating 😂

[@LaMar34_34]

Melo isn’t a better player than Lebron

[@raymondsims7042]

Not even close

[@KTAssassin]

Melo was always going to be melo 27 points no assist and 3 rebounds nothing was going to change that

[@DevineCarama]

Ok Gill… What if Lebron got to play with another All Star in his first 7 years in the league?!?! We can play this “what if” game all day…

[@CB-sj7cf]

Bron did play with another All-star in his first 7 yrs, as a matter of fact 2 all stars.

[@DevineCarama]

@@CB-sj7cf No he didn't, and he certainly didn't play with another HOF'er in his first 7 years like Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, Bird, Kareen, Durant, Steph, Wilt, and the list goes on.....

[@CB-sj7cf]

@@DevineCarama Big Z & mo Williams we’re all-stars!!! good job trying to move the goalpost to Hall of Famers lol

[@DevineCarama]

@@CB-sj7cf Mo was an All Star ONE year, and that was 2009! Lebron came in the league in 2003! Big Z was a 2 time all star. in a 20 year career! The point I was making that Lebron didn't have a "Robin" in his first 7 years in the league! you got it man...

[@CB-sj7cf]

@@DevineCarama ma’am go back & read what you wrote!!

[@AoDroppedTheTunes]

Gil lost me when he brought Darko into the conversation lol. He was nowhere the talent level of any of his peers in the 03 class. Darko was never going to be the star player on the Pistons in ANY scenario

[@Barbieee03]

Gil’s so wrong again lmao 🤣 his arguments are insane always switching the narrative

[@WareWolf831]

It’s not real till Rashad say “Move the Fuck Around “ 😂😂😂

[@derekvandewarker4211]

I do agree with Rashad in much but he was on point with this one.

[@ijustmightsaysomething]

No, because the media would have never allowed that narrative to develop let alone exist.

[@KINGBARAKOQUA]

Well Detroit should had just drafted melo

[@CLSearles]

I agree 1 million percent Gil👏🏽💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👍🥃🥃🥃