Gilbert Arenas LOSES HIS MIND Over The NBA's 3 Point Problem

Gilbert Arenas LOSES HIS MIND Over The NBA's 3 Point Problem as Gil & The Gil’s Arena Crew react to the NBA’s latest obsession with 3 pointers as teams like the Boston Celtics and Golden State Warriors are shooting more 3’s than ever, yet somehow barely scoring more points. They break down how all these bad shots are changing NBA offenses and debate if too many 3’s are ruining the game.
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[@s.o.l.o.1.003]

“Everyone is a shooter, nobody is a shot maker” took me OUT!! 🤣🤣🤣💀

[@jeremybear573]

Where'd it take you to?

[@garybryant19]

He’s Right

[@jaysmith3257]

💯 facts. Everybody can't make threes like Larry Bird, Craig Hodges, Dan Marjerle, Reggie Miller, Tim Legler, Ray Allen, Steph, and Klay.

[@Flyjayy]

Shot maker is when you can create and make difficult shots with defense on you. Compared to being open attempting set shots from a good pass. It’s a difference trust

[@w33zyboy2000]

@@jaysmith3257Larry ain’t shoot like that

[@Mldavis1214]

Role Players shooting more threes than Ray Allen is wild

[@coachk.d4213]

Diabolical lol

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

when you don't use logic yh

[@iammckims9679]

Y'all arguing facts without perspective, the players are more talented now so it stretches the floor.

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

@@iammckims9679 they don't wana hear a young buck being better than an OG lmao

[@blinblinthing]

@@Mldavis1214 so what are they to do? Magically start dunking on people like Shaq OR work on their shooting?

[@soFallenfilms]

Modern NBA is so boring to watch. Way too many 3's taken. Hardly any defense. Load Management. The competitive aspect is nearly gone. The All-Star game is an absolute joke nowadays.

[@darktobi2869]

Adam silver is jewish

[@daredevil350]

The games literally look like 3 point drills in practice. I rarely watch now because of it.

[@jamiegaskins3687]

Ok old man. I know your back hurts.

[@bambabarry]

don't forget to tak your meds tonight grampa

[@PrinceTae]

Everybody making 100 million even the bench players so competition for the ring is gone. I only watch the Final Game of the Finals, Nba is so boring to watch nowadays

[@olandowilliams9529]

Splash brothers were to be feared but everyone knew Shaun Livingston inside the arc is money. That man was never tempted to make a 3. He was death by small cuts

[@famcantor5]

Amen. He gave up hundreds if not thousands of open 3s to get to his money shot. People dont remember

[@holypoop88]

Livingston was okay at shooting inside the arc. I’ve seen people bring up his name for midrange, but he wasn’t that great. From 3ft-16ft, he shoots 44.5%. From 3ft-16+ft he shoots 42.8%. Karl Malone shot 41.8% from 3ft-16+ft lol

[@leehunchoo]

On god ❗️❗️❗️

[@ufonious747]

But still teams WANTED Shaun to take those shots lol Warriors were blowing teams out by 20 or 30 a night. Teams would rather Steph and Klay NOT shot and let Shaun pull up from mid all day if he wanted to lol Shaun extra 8 points a night didn’t make a difference

[@kylelee7254]

His mid range was clutch.

[@michaelfox6431]

"To get an extra 7 points I gotta shoot 36 Fuckin more 3's"!!!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@karimglasgow5518]

So you're not gonna take those extra 7 points? The rest of the league will, so where does that leave you?

[@dylankingery6375]

@@karimglasgow5518You have the comprehension of a small child.

[@kevin54524]

@@karimglasgow5518It will leads to a BAD PRODUCT.😅

[@gravg9743]

@@karimglasgow5518 If someone takes half as many easy layups, theyll outscore the team trying to shoot more 3s.

[@karimglasgow5518]

@@gravg9743 where are you getting 18 more easy layups from?

[@Purlypurlington]

36 more threes to barely outscore 06 wizards is crazy

[@s.a.d7882]

But the difference is they're winning and the Celtics just won a championship so why stop lol how u gonna say its not good if they're winning lol the league will always copy what's successful.

[@nhoodjazz]

They are winning and just won a chip

[@isoulated28]

​@@s.a.d7882scoring would probably go up even more if they reduced some 3 for smart 2's. Some players are open for a reason.

[@SaintFrenchy]

@@isoulated28these kids now a days have no middy whatsoever

[@ethanbrown4628]

The difference is the wizards weren’t winning anything. Or take it like this 30 extra shots are being “wasted“ and they are still scoring more. The Shot profiles may be stupid, but they are still significantly better.

[@Lovethyhippie]

Gil is spot on. They wilding with the amount of 3s they take

[@rojayreid908]

But not scoring more points.

[@bray2079]

​@rojayreid908 they are more than the 90s 2000s and 2010s where they shot way more 2s than 3s.

[@leroyrodgers6089]

Im fairly certain there is a point where shooting more than X number of 3s becomes reductive. We have clearly gone beyond that number. Shooting efficient 3s is always going to be impactful, but 50 a game is way too much.

[@thelegenedzzz468]

But it result in championships shoot 70 a game of its going to win you a championship

[@myka4337]

@@thelegenedzzz468until a team shoots 25 and outscores you by shooting higher percentage shots. There will be an equilibrium at some point. More 3s will be shot that previous eras but not at the clip they’re being shot at now.

[@NYCGemini2000]

Honestly, watching the Olympics was such a relief. Reminded me of the NBA use to be. Team USA didn't shoot that many 3's because it was a completely different game. That was such fun basketball to watch. Seemed like traditional basketball. Shooting a ton of 3's every now and then isn't bad, but when it's every game, it gets boring to watch. Adam Silver needs to allow players to be a little more physical then without being scared to get a foul.

[@killout18]

What? Didn't you watch Serbia vs USA? Serbia nearly won from the 3s. It was so close to USA ultra team being humiliated

[@Tonyoung55]

Big facts love watching a more balance game. NBA LOOK like a glorified pick up game at the Y

[@NYCGemini2000]

@@killout18 After looking at the stats, Steph was shooting most of their 3's. My whole point is that the game wasn't just players running and shooting 3's all game. It looked way more exciting to watch

[@noahjones3769]

Plus, the people who were supposed to take 3s took the 3s

[@noahjones3769]

@@NYCGemini2000 exactly. Everyone can't be Steph. Hell, not even Dame for that matter.

[@jcoop552000]

I was recently at the Mavs/Clippers. The amount of bad 3 threes taken was crazy. 3 on 1 fastbreak and dinwiddie jacks up a brick 3 pointer. There was a backup guard that shot a offbalanced stepback 3 pointer with at least 8 seconds on the clock. I tried to watch a Hornets game and was dumbfounded at the amount of 3s that were jacked up.

[@kevindsmith10000]

I agree with Gil on this with a passion. I can't even watch the current league. Chucking 50 3s a game and no physicality, no beautiful mid-range anymore. A beautiful fade away is one of the sweetest shots you can make.

[@starn9]

bro!! i miss the fadeaways , some players still do them here and there

[@mentalprograming5365]

analytics culture gonna fry you for this comment, they gonna say "BUT A THREE IS WORTH MORE THAN TWO" over and over and over .. even if their team as a whole is scoring less than 60s and 80s teams lmao

[@kallyomega8925]

@@starn9there's fadeaways, but it's star players who take them.

[@LeapingRat]

but just like gil said. you want people taking sweet fadeaways there will alot of shot takers but not alot of shot makers lol

[@BilboFaggins]

All that work for 2 points ? Might as well put in the work to get the 3 points imo

[@RylzRiles]

This probably the most needed conversation right now lol

[@Kingme3144]

Advanced analytics destroyed the art of the game. It is so boring to watch these day. I like more when every team had their own identity and style.

[@blankeon6613]

What does that have to do what Gil is saying though? His point is the players and teams should focus on what they are best at, not just shooting 3s all the time and hope for the best.

[@ThaFlyDutchman]

to be fair, advanced analytics say that teams should be shooting a lot more 2s. The numbers say that Steph should shoot as much as steph wants, but a big who averages 55% in the paint is more valuable than 90% of 3 point shooters in the nba. The league just has blinders on rn fsr. It isn't all or nothing. I, personally, think the 3 point line should still be moved back a little bit regardless. Games boring to watch. Like you said.

[@BruceWalls-jk1vy]

B.I.N.G.O!!!!! Every NBA team plays the same SMDH💯

[@kennethsmith6367]

One of the reason that I enjoy watching the Cavaliers. They run double big set’s and most of their points come from ball movement and open shots.

[@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79]

True

[@dre7169]

Al Horford didn't shoot any threes until the later part of his career. Same with Brook Lopez. They literally extended their careers by learning how to shoot threes effectively.

[@mambamentality5080]

Stats say otherwise. They always shot 3s they just didn't shoot as many. Just like batum. Which makes Chris Paul more impressive for a undersized guard that don't shoot 3s as much and he's still wanted by NBA teams

[@kingshabazz1310]

@@mambamentality5080Bruh…Al Horford averaged 0.5 attempts from three his 1st 8 seasons in the NBA lol…can you actually know the stats before speaking? 😂😂😂

[@dre7169]

@kingshabazz1310 facts. bruh just talkin 🤣

[@RobertFarmer-yl4ri]

⁠@@mambamentality5080 This must be Brandon Jennings on a burner. You make zero sense

[@neek1232]

Al horford is a demonstration that bigs from 90s could have done the same shit if asked. Everyone can shoot open 3s

[@SPLADE-95]

Wemby should be arrested for shooting 9 threes a night.

[@JoeyBK_86]

A 7’4 mfer shooting 9 threes a game is disgusting asf to me I’m sorry

[@Pragmaticboy527]

True!! Big men should be big men that's why I love. KD and LeBron for sticking to their drives and mid-rangers

[@socalgolf9978]

As a spurs fan I agree

[@justpitiful6339]

Y’all better do yall research ninja shoot better than these guards though

[@justpitiful6339]

He shot 35 percent in today’s league that’s good dude a better shooter than that though he b shooting near half court 😂

[@franktjmackey9416]

Gil I totally agree with you. Too many 3’s being shot every game! I’ve been an NBA fan for over 40 years and I hate the way the game is being played now. I see 2 on 1 and 3 on 2 fast breaks all the time and instead of getting the lay up they settle for a 3. Only a few players per team should be shooting them not everybody! Shape up NBA!!

[@jumpman22cn]

Those OG plumbers were killing the team scoring records, with no three pointers.😂😂😂

[@SkidaFTB]

Maaaaaan 😂

[@coreythomas3633]

BILL RUSSELL THE REALL GOAT THAN LOL FR FR

[@beverlypark2597]

😂😂😂 facts

[@jessewright8930]

Facts 😂

[@BrutusJrThe3rd]

That’s what I’m saying. I hated Gil for shxtting on them like they wasn’t like that.

[@Chad5ter]

The forward gets the offensive rebound after a 3pts shot attempt and then pass it back for another 3pts shot instead of a simple mid jumper while opened. That’s killing the game.

[@cameronleslie5069]

The teams who have low volume 3 are getting smoked rn

[@mannydaprofit2869]

NBA is dead . And that translates to 2k lol dudes just wanna shoot 3s smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@cameronleslie5069]

@mannydaprofit2869 not dead just in a bad spot

[@Chad5ter]

@@cameronleslie5069Real bad spot 💯

[@Chad5ter]

@@mannydaprofit2869😂😂😂

[@jumpman5150]

The NBA: Where spray and pray happens. 😂

[@taylorbolton349]

More like spade and gay

[@Jeff-n5i]

17:19 is one of the funniest moments. The face Kenyon gave Brandon Jennings is hilarious. They need to clip all of that up 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JaquariousFenn]

7:26 “Malik Beasley!! Derrick White!!”🤣🤣

[@oftengone]

😂😂😂

[@BloodofEli]

I rewinded that sh!t 3x bruh.. his face and the way he said “Malik Beasley” has me crying lmaoooo

[@coachk.d4213]

I have been saying this...this is why the games suck now Gil and Kenyon are speaking nothing but the truth 💯💯

[@terrancecampbell5710]

I don't normally agree with Gil but on this topic him and Kenyon are making a very valid point. Brandon Jennings is clueless 😅😅😅

[@cameronleslie5069]

The celtics would run all those teams they mentioned out of the gym💀

[@kahmalmason5919]

Nope! Too many fastbreak pts given up.!

[@GhostDad2010]

Their point is not valid at all. Points per game is not a measure of offensive effectiveness, it's mostly a measure of pace. Celtics offense is historically efficient, but they play a much slower pace, so they score less points per game than teams from the 50s who shot ass from the field but had twice as many total possessions.

[@kingshabazz1310]

The league is shooting the HIGHEST percentage ever from 3. That fact got glossed over.

[@kahmalmason5919]

@kingshabazz1310 if you shoot more your average will go up. But scoring is down.

[@Dmg6um]

I’ve been saying this for a long time. 80% from 2 is better than 35% from 3. Olajuwon, Shaq, Robinson, and centers of yesteryear would destroy this nba

[@ankou5295]

Olajuwon and Robinson were 52% from 2 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@Dmg6um]

@ you’re including jump shots. Name a player that would stop Shaq from dunking now. And you’re not thinking of all the easy layups getting dished out for 3’s. Think it all the way through my man.

[@ankou5295]

@@Dmg6um name a player who can stop Giannis from dunking now and then NBA players didn't stop dunking, they stopped taking those inefficient midrange shots

[@Dmg6um]

@ Giannis isn’t a Center is he? He’s a slasher who get stopped on the way to the rim. He’s no where near the force Shaq or Olajuwon were in the post. When players are allowed to play physical defense the midrange isn’t inefficient. It simply adds more dynamic to the game which is why this pick and roll 3 point era is so difficult to watch.

[@ShiftyTay10]

Nobody shoots 80 from 2 bro

[@PrinceTae]

“IF YOU HAD 5 OF MEEEE.. YOU’D SCORE A HUNDRED AND FIFTIE !!!” 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@bjmiller3783]

My college coach use to say weve got a lot of shooters but no makers...gils comment took me back..lol

[@MrStuntmanMic]

Jennings will let a career 45% ft shooter shoot 3s smh

[@blinblinthing]

He said, "if he worked on it". That's not the same as let him shoot it.

[@kahmalmason5919]

​@blinblinthing so how long will it take for that player to become a ok shooter? What will his role be until he gets that shot to be respected? Are you willing to move your big away from the basket for 3's instead of rebounds and put backs? Brandon just be talking without much thought to what is coming out of his mouth.!

[@mambamentality5080]

​@@blinblinthingby that logic people can't use the "Jordan wouldn't dominate this era cause he don't shoot 3s" wellllllll..... "If he worked on it!!!!"

[@Ultrabmw319]

I think this is an example of just because you played don't mean you know what you're talking about. Cant believe bj with this topic

[@MrStuntmanMic]

@@blinblinthing he hasn’t even worked on his fts fam. How you gonna work on 3s? 🤦🏾‍♂️😭😂

[@LastSunrise1981]

The three pointer back in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's was utilized only as an unexpected weapon. Players during those respective eras weren't jacking up three's the entire game. Every team had different specialists too. There was the three point specialist, defensive specialist, etc. None of those dynamics exist within the sport of basketball anymore.

[@trey1335]

Because they couldn’t make them at the rate that players do now.

[@darnellroberts8363]

​@@trey1335they couldn't miss them at the rate they do now either 😮

[@LastSunrise1981]

@@trey1335 Eh, not exactly true. Coaches would've been having strokes watching players in the 80's and 90's jacking up three's.

[@xbws]

Just nba, euro is like that

[@huttballer29]

You don’t watch basketball if you feel there are no defensive or 3 point specialists anymore… the thing is those same players can do more than just shoot 3s or defend now… spread the floor 🥴

[@abbnorm]

This won’t last much longer. At some point, a team is gonna come along and kill everybody with smart high percentage shots.

[@StinkMello12]

Exactly what I say.

[@smileymyronnftonlyoninstag8213]

The Mavs are doing that with paint points.

[@raczstar]

I miss the days when most of the shots came from the paint and midrange

[@Mousey168]

Yall sounding like a bunch of babies. And Mavs lost last yr . 😂

[@TopGunZero]

@@smileymyronnftonlyoninstag8213 Checks notes... Mavs are 11-8 and are in play-in territory...

[@internetmarketing197]

Damn Gil your podcast is revolutionary. You'll be surprised how many league executives are viewing your show to get information on how to change the algorithm of the game! Keep up the great work bro!

[@petergunz3353]

That's why greg popovich has been saying to get rite of the 3 😂

[@somebody9785]

Watching huge Centers like Embiid & Victor Wembanyama jacking up 3s makes me sick. Disgrace to the game. Every time Wembanyama bricks a 3 Wilt Chamberlain rolls in his grave 💀

[@dominiquebrown2890]

They took all the physical play out. Too many ticky tack fouls

[@nhoodjazz]

Get off my lawn!!! Shut the hell up

[@blackbeanburger3357]

if embiid were forced to play like a more traditional big he wouldve never played more than 20 games a seaosn

[@somebody9785]

@blackbeanburger3357 how's that "process" working out over there? 💀

[@BIGGDUDE42]

Blame Dirk... he's the big man idol...too bad none of these clowns can shoot with Dirk's accuracy

[@alainbrouillaud484]

It’s discussions like this that make Gil’s Arena MAGIC 😊🏀

[@shiestlifesam]

Brandon miller and Derrick white taking 9+ 3s is crazy I remember when Steph and dame were the only ones putting up threes in volume like that

[@Jjhawkk]

And the Celtics beat Warriors by 50 points last time both teams were healthy so welcome to reality

[@Coriand3r_25]

derrick white taking those threes makes sense. He shoots 42% from 3

[@armiyareed1645]

D white last 2 games he was 4\8 from 3 and 5\9 from. So I'm cool with him shooting 9 times a game

[@kingshabazz1310]

@@Coriand3r_25Exactly. And most those players who shoot 8 or more threes are high 30s and low 40 percent shooters. They left out percentages are highest ever also.

[@masstarvation]

Why wouldn't Dwhite shoot threes if he has a 43% split? LUL That's almost 12-15 pts a game if he shoots 8-10 😊

[@zngetsu219]

bro when Gil said role players are shooting more 3's than Ray Allen!! my mind exploded! that's insane

[@mickeymillions]

This is most important conversation and analysis that needs to happen about the NBA. Gil should be the New Commissioner! There needs to be less 3 pt attempts

[@Duke-SaintsSaintsLiveFoxSports]

Proving what old school players is saying about today's game. Brandon missed the point, Gil said yhe whole league looks bad on shooting threes....

[@chillzwills6523]

Problem is.. you have all these guys who shoot these 3"s are shooting 34% or less...

[@nickcalash151]

33% from three is the same as 50% from two... so that's not really a problem

[@DreamFactories]

That’s not bad tho.

[@007StephenC]

Coaches forgot it’s only sustainable with literally the best and second best shooters of all time

[@blinblinthing]

True. But honestly, you likely won't get too far if you veer too far away from this scheme.

[@AngeloMorales-u1e]

Tell the Celtics that.. I think our chip says otherwise

[@JeebyTube]

Celtics ?

[@Johnny.Natural]

These guys didn't mention spacing, that's why no one stands inside the 3 point lines, they should have more post up players but that would make the game even more boring

[@princeluv4804]

@@Johnny.Natural how is dunks and more driving more boring

[@TrevorHamberger]

The only time I watch the NBA is when I'm going to the bathroom at the gym and I got to walk by the TVs to get there. I'll see maybe three possessions when I walk by. It's always the same thing every time. Bricking threes 1 after another

[@muzokhonazulu4202]

one of my fav takes from Gil's arena, a rare W😅

[@TheGoatedOne423]

Man i graduated hs in 2008 and the three ball wasn’t used often but there was a team in our city that literally all they did was fire 3s lol like crazy 😂😂

[@cheezeandthanku]

Brandon Jennings REALLY needed to go to college and it shows

[@grahamgreen8283]

Foo I ain’t went to college and I understand all this , I barely went to high school u Jack ass clown sucka

[@DeeRickJames201]

Brandon makes it hard to have a real basketball conversation on the show.. Replace Brandon with Nick Young and I'm cool with it

[@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79]

The way he is talking it’s like we’re you an NBA player, because you can’t be talking this dumb.

[@KILoG10001]

Don't think it would have helped.

[@dw00ds]

This is a SPOT ON take!!! Damn near every time he opens his mouth it irks me...he brings nothing to the conversation.

[@250miles2]

Gil looking at Brandon like, "Are you here?? Where are you?" 😂😂 4:35

[@SirWoolfolk]

Best conversation yall have had so far

[@hazevt04]

1:04 I don't like how many threes teams shoot but....18/50 three ptrs is 36% and is 54 points. That's 1.08 points per attempt. Hypothetical: 25/50 for two ptrs (50%) is 50 points. That's 1 pt per attempt. Efficiency wise 1.08 pts per 3pt shot > 1 pt per 2pt shot. 🤷‍♂️

[@jaystrong7793]

Ok dork 😂😂😂

[@omarjackson8024]

I hate this because this doesn’t take into account free throws, pace of play or anything else. People see the numbers and say yeah shoot more when the best way to score the most is transition basketball.

[@karimglasgow5518]

​@@jaystrong7793it's 3rd grade arithmetic. Doesn't make the person who understands this a dork; if anything it says much more about the person who doesn't understand

[@hazevt04]

@@omarjackson8024 Some teams are actually doing both: creating transition threes.

[@daltonbrown6737]

The game is going to go full circle. When players figure it out they can get a better scoring averages if they just stop chucking the ball for 3.

[@AceJohnson-pu1bp]

That won’t happen anytime soon with Boston blasting teams from 3. There’s going to be a team that mimics them perfectly to keep it going.

[@mambamentality5080]

"theirs going to be a team that mimics them" 😅😅 LMAO no their won't because first of all the celtics are not original... They are literally the modern warriors.. everyone is still mimicking the warriors... The era hasn't changed... Steph is still here... Everyone wants to be like Mike but now everyone wants to be like Steph... Every team already plays the same way the Celtics do because the Celtics play the same way the warriors do... So I have no clue what your talking about .. nobody is going to come along and start shooting 3s and passing like crazy because their already doing it... Since 2014.. the casuals don't know the Spurs started it after they beat Miami and sent LeBron packing to Cleveland ​@@AceJohnson-pu1bp

[@AceJohnson-pu1bp]

@ you said a whole bunch of nothing lol. The warriors turned into the spurs on roids, the celtics came along and are like the warriors, there’s going to be a team that comes along and as close to the Celtics as can be because it’s proven you can win this way. Never said they’ll be an exact copy because the Celtics although similar to those warriors aren’t a carbon copy. And teams are already trying to play like them sure but none of them are as effective as they are. Boston tried playing similarly to warriors for years only to recently be here. They’ll be a team that comes close to matching Boston’s production eventually.

[@ephalanx1]

You live and die by the 3. They will end up like the Rockets at some point. Go dry at the most inopportune time. Rockets missed 27 in a row in the playoffs... We are only 18-19 games in. Let it play out.

[@unc1221]

@@AceJohnson-pu1bpunless hand checking comes back

[@cosmosblak]

Don’t ever let Brandon Jennings run a franchise

[@alaye5583]

Shooting all these 3s and their bodies fall apart the rare times they go to the rim because they don’t know how to even fall properly.

[@koolsheen7623]

this is actually a fantastic conversation about the game

[@iloveparadyse]

Glad this is getting talked about

[@GrandmasterSplash]

3:16 It's actually more like 60 years which might as well be the entire life of the NBA! It's so frustrating to watch teams chuck up so many 3PA's with the floor so spread out and not even one person trying to dive into the paint to at least collapse the defense to create mid-range options 🤦‍♂

[@professionalcurrysexual]

There’s is more drives than ever you are an imbecile

[@Almanacplanting-g6o]

Loved every min of this video! You nailed it!

[@cameronleslie5069]

No

[@26MECH]

​@@cameronleslie5069😂😂 ole glaze bots

[@cameronleslie5069]

@@26MECH ?

[@26MECH]

@@cameronleslie5069 talking about the original post. Seems like a bot comment.

[@cameronleslie5069]

@26MECH ohhh 💀💀💀💀 i thought I was trippin fr😭

[@ariesballesteros5881]

it's about scoring points even if it's so ugly. 5/15 from 3's makes 15pts on 33% fg 8/15 from 2pt makes 16pts on 54% fg.

[@ImDJVA]

But when your center goes 2 for 8 that 6 points. But the other center goes 4 for 8 and draws 3 fouls. Then gets extra free throws the rest of the quarter. The math doesn't hold

[@ariesballesteros5881]

@@ImDJVA That's why the game is ugly. How about a center goes for 5/8 from 3pt for 15pts and his counterpart goes for 6/8 and draws 5 fouls and makes 4 ft for a total of 16pts. Percentage holds. And you can also draw fouls in the 3pt area. That's why Warriors erased double digit deficit very very fast and easily when they were dominating the league in their championship season and 73 win season.

[@ajdaking507]

​@@ariesballesteros5881you can do that when you have steph, klay, and kd.

[@ariesballesteros5881]

@@ajdaking507 KD wasn't on the 73 win Warriors

[@gifi11]

​@ImDJVA then the clock stops on FT. You get more possessions. It's just basketball lol. It is dumb to just shoot 3s because they are worth more lol. Shaq averaged 40 in the finals with 0 3s lol.last 3peat in the NBA

[@rodsean]

For years I’ve been wondering why I’m not rushing to watch the association like I once did. Then I tuned into one game a couple years ago and it hit me; I was watching guys play no defense, and now it’s no d coupled with shooting too much 3s

[@nbarealtalker]

I don’t think advanced stats understands that “live and die by the 3” is literal and it’s just like being a good gambler betting against the house. Every team ain’t a damn maverick with two of the greatest shooters of all time.

[@JeebyTube]

Shout out Payton p keep shooting that rock bro

[@Mousey168]

They mad cause the Cs is torchn other teams

[@novelaego2404]

@ Mousey168 Celts and Warriors the only teams it works for.

[@75642]

Defense and transition creates more possessions. More shots doesn’t create more possessions defense and rebounding does.

[@1227weaverb]

I went back and watched the 2004 ECF between the Pacers-Pistons and the offenses were running so much iso and taking bad shots. Fans will tell you all those low scores were strictly from “great defense” and yes, great defense was being played but it was helped by a lack of ball movement and bad shots.

[@rpmredshogan]

It’s the piston and pacer they weren’t known for their offense

[@1227weaverb]

@@rpmredshogan trust me I get it but those teams had capable offensive talents. Pistons alone had Chauncey, Rip and Sheed. Pacers had Artest, Harrington and JO. Everybody I listed is capable of averaging 20+ but the way played hindered their offense which is why they were constantly finishing games scoring in the 60’s/70’s.

[@rockjm9876543210]

​@@rpmredshogan Right. They were bottom 10 offenses in the nba during that era. Plenty of other teams had great ball movement and offenses during that time.

[@jj47k.]

​@1227weaverb What part of they wasn't known for their offense don't you understand?

[@m2nyce4u]

@@1227weaverb no disrespect but no one on those teams were bucket getters. Chauncy is an average player along with Rip hamilton

[@SirMyk]

never really thought of it like this. This does sound crazy af

[@TremayneA]

Only a couple of teams can effectively shoot a high number of threes and actually win. You have to have players in the first and second units that can and will shoot them well. The problem is that teams that are not built for that style that are playing just because analytics say its a better style.

[@philll.1358]

Boston as a squad is a team FULL of guys that can Dribble, Pass, and Shoot in every position. We cant talk about some guy from 2004 that isnt a shooter and compare him to anyone on that team. Or letting Andre Drummond Shoot 3s. No you play to your strengths. Giannis is a top scorer using mainly 2s because hes a 7Ft Super Athlete Freight Train coming down at you in the lane. Im sure if more people were built like him, then they wouldnt need to shoot. Wemby for instance should probably shoot less because he should play for his strengths more. Which is length and vertical threat. Maybe hover more around 6.5 3s game. Still a Threat, but uses his strength in twos more.

[@mambamentality5080]

Theirs a gang of players built like Gianni's shooting 3s ... And Giannis went in the gym to get that way, other guys trainers are telling them stay skinny and be like Durant

[@philll.1358]

@mambamentality5080 Yes Giannis earned his physique. The hieght and length is natural talent but the power and speed he earned. But thats the point, he played to his strength of height/length and improved it by adding speed and power. The same could be said for Derrick White and Payton Pritchard. They are both decent small but very quick guards. They play for their speed and dribble ability, but the 3 ball makes them twice as lethal. Especailly since they both shoot over 40% from 3. I just want teams playing to thier strengths. Like i dont want jokic or embiid throwing up 10 3s a game for an example because their strength is size+skill

[@bluewave3417]

And their percentage is still subpar. They win because other teams play the same way but are worse at it.

[@philll.1358]

@@bluewave3417 yessir thats the thing, Youd have to have their personnel to really get where they are. Their percentage is slightly above league average which isnt as good as youd want but it still puts them above the rest of the league. And they still havent been consistantly healthy this year to maximize their potential

[@seandennis4822]

And yet they still can't crack more points per game then a team from the 80s and 70s. It's bad basketball

[@tommymccaskill2191]

Move that three point line further out

[@dominiquebrown2890]

If you allow more physical play the 3s will drop instantly. Players will have to get stronger and alot of your favorite players would sucks

[@11bornrich]

@@dominiquebrown2890 Physical play how? What exactly do you guys mean by "physical" play? Handchecking or just straight up pushing guys with your hands on the floor? If you watch the 80s or even 90s, the game wasn't "physical" in that sense, it was poor defense, people confuse the stand outs with the norm. Guys like Bill Laimbeer was decent defensively but often would straight up closeline you in the air not even going for the ball. That's not the type of "physical" play that belongs in the game, as funny as it is and I love watching those "highlights" or rewatching those games, what they were doing was senseless a lot of the time.

[@OMG-si3wn]

@@11bornrich i think they should add handchecking back into the nba tbh, games have literally turned into layup lines and 3 point drills

[@theoneaboveall6768]

@@11bornrich hand checking yes BRING IT BACK. allow more contact not nonsense but more contact. fine 100k per flopping and give a tech. get the 3pts line further. watch how everyone change their games. only real shooter will shoot

[@11bornrich]

@@theoneaboveall6768 I agree with fining flopping if you're caught they already give a tech for it. Hand checking just means you're bad a defense, if you need to use your hands to try and stop an offensive player instead of using your footwork to guide him, that just shows the lack of defensive skill. Moving the 3pt line back simply penalises players for being better and more efficient from outside. So what we're essentially saying is... Players have become too skilled offensively so let's find ways to punish them... I want the game to improve too but I don't think this is the way

[@dre7169]

What they're not accounting for is the pace of play. In the 2000s they were using the whole 24 shot clock and the shot clock reset to 24 off a miss and offensive rebound.

[@BruceWalls-jk1vy]

THANK YOU GIL!!!!💯

[@JamarHunt-d3u]

This is a very good take. I hope the league see this and do something about it

[@MacMula]

Everybody thinks there Steph curry. Steph curry is a once in a generation talent. Why tf are teams just chucking 3’s

[@jumpropedad]

The point is if shots are falling they are damn near unbeatable in a series - the season is practice for getting locked in by I be unbeatable in the playoffs. They’ve scored over 130 several times already this season.

[@shootthejay7002]

That shit is not working in the playoffs. We’ve seen it time and time again

[@jumpropedad]

@ oh so the Celtics didn’t win last year? The warriors have won 4 in the last decade? For sure

[@shootthejay7002]

@@jumpropedad yeah they won but they also could’ve won a couple years ago against GSW but they shot themselves out of the series. Their entire roster was bigger than GSW as well as klay being washed, draymond being old and a bunch of rookies on the team. Guys who are 6’10 and shooting while a 6’3 Steph is guarding them is just not going to cut it. They should’ve used their size more. They should’ve never lost that series

[@jumpropedad]

@ winning is hard… it doesn’t ALWAYS work

[@Gmgfjv]

Ok what happens when it’s not falling? They still just keep chucking them up

[@matthewg5792]

Here is why the 3 dominates. Take 1 team for example, the Cavs, as of Nov 20, 2024: 2 pt fg % ===> 51.1% ===> 100 shots ===> 102.2 pts 3 pt fg % ===> 40.2% ===> 100 shots ===> 120.6 pts See that extra 18.4 points simply by taking 3's instead of 2's? That's why so many 3's are going up and there's going to be more.

[@YetiCoolBrother]

What team is 40% from 3 though?

[@aciv132]

@@YetiCoolBrother slow down lil bro. he said the cavs.

[@kevlamar6613]

No, the 51% fg overall are impacted by the 40%.... for 2pt attempts within 12ft from the rim they probably avg 64% so that's 128 points out of 100 attempts... DAMN YOU STUPID

[@rockjm9876543210]

Terrible analogy because no team is taking all 3s in a game. If it was just that simple then why even take a 2?

[@egrassa1480]

Terrible analogy because no team would have an average of 40% per season. Especially if you only jack up threes, means quality of them go down and they become more difficult

[@lecannois]

Bigger issue is that long shots lead to long rebounds and make the transition defense harder. There's a negative defensive impact to take a 3 and to miss it.

[@keepitprivate3856]

The issue isn’t an obsession with three-pointers. The game and players will always adapt, finding ways to win. The real problem is the lack of competition. Those businessmen are more focused on making money and avoiding physical contact. Winning seems to be the least of their concerns, and that’s the true problem with the NBA today. The only reason 3s is the problem now is just players don't care whether they win or not.

[@tonochiehardy9465]

FACTS it's about 💰 to the business men but entertainment to else regular people

[@sdot266]

Keyon face at 17:51 😂

[@warrnp845]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@codydixon3438]

😂😂😂😂

[@r3vivalkicks620]

14:00 3s don’t = aggressive Ain’t nun more aggressive than Shaq & Giannis

[@jaybay1643]

2 current teams in the past 40 years is more indicative that more 3s works. It took 40 years to get those other 8, this year alone has 2 in the top 10. I don't care, but that is just the opposite of what it seems.

[@Moegreene666]

One of the teams was 59-60. It's actually the last 60 years

[@edisjd]

The NBA analytics is brushing all players with the same stroke, not all players should take more 3s

[@geoffwheeler2994]

3’s are the players just wanting to play easy and avoid contact. They’d have to work harder and be more aggressive to shoot more 2’s.

[@BigSegsy]

They get less possessions now than in the 50's 60's 70's and 80's

[@Betrue2310]

Yeah the fact they completely ignored that is crazy

[@Pantherlife-ig2no]

Bro that's still thier fault. Boxing out rebounding and playing defense will help that.

[@gifi11]

​@@Betrue2310that is apart of the point lol. What did you miss lol when you not just chucking up bad 3s and actually play basketball you get fouled more. When you shoot a FT the time stops lol. That causes for more possessions which is always a good thing. Hint, how basketball is played lol.

[@babelnaut]

derrick white shooting 42% from 3 on those 9.1 apg payton pritchard shooting 44% from 3 on 8.4 ray allen career 40% on 5.7 fwiw really everybody just be saying whatever stats, only looking at shit to say what they want if you dont look wanting the context in the first place you not really looking, just jerking w numbers

[@babelnaut]

by the fucking way the last NINE seasons straight have the highest all time leaguewide average points per possession in generally ascending order until 86-87 at number ten somebody please give gil a team tryna bet on future lottery picks 2023-4 and 22-23 tied at 1.15 ppp 86-87 at number ten w 1.08 all those seasons in the 70's under 1 ppp lmao 116 ppg at .99 ppp what if there were like 11 more possessions every game idk scooby, fuck this funhouse hallway

[@Yrgzip0]

Jrue Holiday led the league in corner efficiency shooting over 65% last year. It’s not like the Celtics are just chucking 3s, they’re knocking them down and winning games…..

[@babelnaut]

and they have, in the past it's clearly different people forget the year the rockets blew it all on -27 or whatever straight from three boston was in the exact same underdog g7 situation in the east vs lebron, and also missed a fuckin brutal 32 3's. [7-39 g7, rockets were 7-44] that was chucking. this built different. [and it was still literally on the brink against legend and dynasty, lore shit]

[@kenralph1748]

It's not about their % cause that won't last and the # won't look the same come all star weekend. This is fools gold. Take more 2's score more pts put more pressure on the defense, get your opponent in foil trouble. 4-6th options should be shooting 3's more than 2's

[@babelnaut]

dwhite and pp shot 40 and 38% from 3 on volume for the whole of last season god damn i'm tired of folk just saying anything at all fuck is wrong w you

[@ELGUAPOIV]

When a guy like ANT is taking more threes it's nasty 🤮

[@jacobyscommentary]

Why?? He making them at 42% which is great 3pt percentage. What do u want him to do

[@dereks7745]

"These guys can't shoot. They're just shooting the ball." This is the problem. I like Giannis and the fact he's barely taking any 3's. Exactly what Wemby should be doing. Wemby shouldn't be taking more than 1 3 a game.

[@joelv92]

Watching the Olympics, that was fun to watch because it was competitive and brought back the old school basketball style.

[@greg6216]

5:27 I like how he casually made a mockery of their point with just a touch more research, but they pushed past it like it didn't happen.😂

[@Lnevalied]

How did he make a mockery? He proved their point further....top 8 were teams from 50 60 70s....

[@admiralprawn]

​@Lnevalied different rules, and point differentials tell the real story. They're not considering the shot quality. The teams that bury the league in perimeter shooting are annihilating defenses and getting much higher quality shots than the teams just chucking the ball up after one pass.

[@Lnevalied]

@@admiralprawn that's not what my comment addressed brodie

[@bnimer92]

@@admiralprawndont forget that everything is a foul now too

[@startopkiller8259]

When Gilbert heard Derrick White and Malik Beasley he was fiberglassed.

[@The_M0st_High]

Fiberglassed or Flabbergasted?

[@djadondaman17]

Fiber glass is crazy work.

[@knobcreek7]

“GOT DAMN” so he just went straight past flabbergasted? And was straight fiberglassed. Now that’s something

[@moonpiespotlight4759]

White is a champion. Gilbert aint.

[@kkaka26]

- The 24-25 grizzlies are 21st all-time - The 24-25 celtics are 17th all-time. - The 24-25 Cavs are 11th all-time. - The 23-24 Pacers are 6th all-time. - The 23-24 celtics are 25 all-time. 14 teams in the top 25 are from the 60s - Completely different game - Not ONE team from the 90s or 00s makes the list Does this man understand how many teams have played in basketball history to have 5 current teams in the top 25? Not to mention how the game was different in other eras. Current teams would outscore old teams like crazy Gilbert is being dumb af

[@HibachiQuon]

Yea, Gil misleads people with numbers and stats. MJ was drafted 1984. No team from 1985-2020 scored as well as today’s teams. Also, along the lines you said, teams outside of the Alex English Nuggets team who scored a lot average 100 plus FGA per game with about 3 more turnovers per game than modern nba teams. So not only did they have about 14 more possessions per game, they on average shot a lower field goal percentage as well. That’s with less 3s. So Gil’s argument about scoring is down is “true” if you go back 40 years and watch before NBA or basketball in general blew up globally

[@vincentvega9747]

They wouldn't they take terrible 3s

[@gregorydunston2952]

It still don’t make him wrong. Yeah the 60s was a completely different game but the reason why those games were high scoring is the exact reason those early 80s Nuggets teams were because they ran a fast break game most of the game. Which is actually kinda funny when ppl talk about how much better the conditioning & training of today’s era is (which it is) but those guys from back in the day with way less tech were running up & down the floor consistently but these teams today take a lot of terrible shots tbh. Steph legit got these guys thinking they’re snipers & they’re not. It’s to the point to what they said, guys who has no business even taking 3s are

[@kkaka26]

@@gregorydunston2952 bro. These celtics would outscore gil’s team by 30 EASY. Gil or you know better than the coaches and analytics guys from 32 teams??lmao there’s a reason why curry changed the game - this way of playing is way more efficient. It don’t look good but it works

[@ajdaking507]

​@@kkaka26it only works when you have steph, klay, and kd. The Celtics don't win because they jack up 50 3s a game. They'd be just as good attempting 35. They win because they have a great team that happens to be a good 3pt shooting team.

[@JameelKane]

This is the most revealing video on this topic. The NBA needs to change.

[@MrAJ1400]

These guys don’t understand the difference between PPG and PPP. They also are acting like all of those twos they are screaming for are layups. A lot of those twos they was shooting was contested mid ranges.

[@jessewilkerson4440]

Take 10 3s a game at 40% chance = 12 points on average Take 10 2s a game at 50% chance = 10 points on average This is why they do it

[@roshaunfleming2441]

Makes sense but the argument is that only 40% shooters should have the volume and I don’t think a single team is shooting 40% this year

[@tashawnpatterson810]

That's dumb bro if you're looking at a basketball perspective

[@ireiricky]

If you take 10 2s including layups and dunks you have a chance of getting a foul. Regardless of it's a 3 point play or not, it's a net positive because you get the other team in foul trouble and then they play less aggressive defense.

[@getsomemoney2433]

lol they’re so angry and it’s so simple 3=2*1.5

[@jessewilkerson4440]

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's why they do it. The Warriors legit said their analytics team did the math on it.

[@mca217]

To be fair, Malik Beasley is shooting 39% from 3 and Derrick White is shooting 42% from 3.

[@5lime9ordo]

😂 they're also shooting like 10 at least. Ray Allen would be number 1 or 2 on three still . He took 4/6 ...

[@ShootTheJaySHOOTIT]

EXACTLY!! Cade and Jaden Ivey need spacing. They don’t need him shooting mid range jump shots

[@riffsthatkill2180]

@@5lime9ordo He may have averaged more per game if he converted some more of his 2pt shots to 3pt shots. 35% FG% from 3 beats 50% FG% from 2, so saying a player would score more points if they took more shorter range shots only bears out if they think their 2P% would be significantly higher than their 3P%, enough to make the math fall in favor. Ray Allen shot 48% from 2 and 40% from 3. In order for him to mathematically "score more points" shooting from 2P range, he would need to shoot them all at an average of 60% clip just to match his output at 40% from 3. So, there's that....

[@kahmalmason5919]

​@@riffsthatkill2180my answer to that is look at the top bucket getters in NBA history. LeBron most of his pts came off of middys and dunks. Kareem shot like 2 3's his whole career.

[@Yrgzip0]

@@kahmalmason5919All that is before curry. Look at Bron today, he been averaging 5+ attempts from 3 for like 8 straight years. Post scorers like Brook Lopez and Al Horford realized they were going to be out of the league if they didn’t learn to adapt to modern offenses and shoot 3s. Idk why it’s so hard for people to admit that the 3 point shot is simply better

[@omoniyi2350]

The look Gil gives Brandon @ 23:42 is all of us 😭

[@Welcome28487]

24:33 when Gil starts cracking up 😂😂😂

[@theblinkerx]

I say it all the time Steph Curry changed the league forever but not in a positive way

[@AFguy23]

Agreed, but Iman Shumpert has said (and I've always agreed) that Lebron actually changed the league because while teaming up with stars, if Lebron and the Cavs would have beat GS that first year, the narrative that a jump shooting team couldn't win a championship would've continued and teams may have looked more like the Cavs than GS. Most analysts were still saying that during that GS 1st championship run.

[@shawncain882]

Mark Jackson, Steph's old coach, was the first to say this publicly and at the time got criticized for it a lot.

[@shawncain882]

@Teek4Tat , Yes, it kinda was because GS had two of the best 3pt shooters on their team, along with many others, and decided to play a style of basketball that was 3pt dominant and they became the team to beat as they got better and won their first championship. So teams had to follow suit because you couldn't beat GS making mostly 2pt shots. Use your brain, please

[@Teek4Tat]

@@shawncain882 my brain is fine thank you for your concern … play to your strengths… if you’re a dunk guy DUNK , Lay ups ?? Well go on and lay it up … shooters shoot … my point was …. Not everyone is Steph Curry … he plays to his STRENGTH. If you’re an in the paint guy and then all of a sudden you want to start launching threes just because “ OH STEPH DOES IT “ and you SUCK AT IT , who’s fault is your SUCK put on ???

[@shawncain882]

@Teek4Tat , Nah, your brain doesn't work fine. It was a snowball effect when more teams started shooting. 3s all teams had to do more of it to keep up trying to win games and/or a championship. All teams are now looking for 3pt shooting, and even bigs are encouraged to take at least a few a game. The OP was spot on and like I said even Mark Jackson and other ex NBA players are getting louder and louder about too many 3s being taken and it actually was because of Curry and GS, they changed the game. It's happened before with NBA players, and all-time great/unstoppable forces will change the game, and new rules will have to be put in place to rebalance things out again. Get your knowledge and understanding up, bro. It's facts over feelings. You're obviously emotional about this, and logic and reason is lost on you..

[@Flawda_marlon561]

The will be in debt once LeBron, KD, and Steph retires, it's gonna look like the NCAA. They are really messing the game up, No Vets, can't really play defense, No Defense Stoppers anymore, trying to make the European player's takeover etc. The NBA sucks, not the player's the People making these decisions suck.

[@youngboy2140]

That’s because they play soft ass rotate defense. If defense was able to be more physical they would shoot less and there would be less switching. Only the special ones would require a switch or double team.

[@oblockcertified7787]

Watch my rockets. They terror twins will make you fall in love with defence again.

[@Flawda_marlon561]

@oblockcertified7787 One of the few teams I like to watch, them The Kings, OKC, Boston, Minnesota.

[@Flawda_marlon561]

@@youngboy2140 That's my point, it's the rule changes That's messing up the game. Basketball should be universal and more like the FIBA rules except for the ball in the cylinder rule.

[@oblockcertified7787]

@@Flawda_marlon561 imo Boston chuck up too many threes. Ant used to be more fun to watch with his inside game but he’s also settling. It’s the talent. Everyone can shoot these days do everyone does. It’s watering down the product

[@GhostDad2010]

It's crazy to me how many seasons of NBA play are on this couch and not one of these dudes knows what "pace" is. Easy to score a billion points per game when the pace is insane. These offenses are more efficient on a points per possession basis. But they operate at a much slower pace than teams from the 50s, so of course 1950s teams scored more points per game.

[@Higantethegoat29]

They are not more efficient. That’s the point. It’s amazing how somebody like you can still be dumb while not understanding what’s being said

[@timmyspov]

Scoring Efficiency A 2-pointer is worth 2 points. A 3-pointer is worth 3 points. Now, consider shooting percentages (how often the shots go in): A player might make 50% of their 2-pointers (average). A player might make 35% of their 3-pointers (lower percentage because 3-pointers are harder). Points Per Shot (PPS) To see which is more efficient, calculate the average points per shot: For 2-pointers: If you shoot 100 times and make 50%: 100 × 0.50 × 2 = 100   points 100×0.50×2=100points PPS = 100 / 100 = 1.0 PPS=100/100=1.0 For 3-pointers: If you shoot 100 times and make 35%: 100 × 0.35 × 3 = 105   points 100×0.35×3=105points PPS = 105 / 100 = 1.05 PPS=105/100=1.05 Conclusion: 3-pointers (1.05 PPS) give you more points per shot on average than 2-pointers (1.0 PPS), even if the shooting percentage is lower. Why This Makes Sense: Over many shots, the extra point for a 3-pointer adds up, making it a more valuable option if you can shoot them decently well. Modern NBA teams use analytics to optimize scoring, so they encourage taking more 3-pointers to maximize overall efficiency.

[@theonemrham]

Mute Brandon's mic 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@flatrateinspections6387]

The lowest-scoring game in NBA history occurred on November 22, 1950, between the Fort Wayne Pistons and the Minneapolis Lakers. The final score was 19-18 in favor of the Pistons. This game is notable not only for the low score but also because it reflected the era's playing style, which emphasized defense and featured a slower pace. The combined total of 37 points remains the lowest in NBA history.

[@bmac7909]

It was no shot clock, that's why the score was low. After that, they put in the shot clock.

[@richardramirez9209]

The combined score of 37 points is how many points LeBron was averaging against McCants

[@flatrateinspections6387]

@@bmac7909 in order for that to be a valid argument- you would need to check the highest scoring game in that area

[@flatrateinspections6387]

@@bmac7909 Wilt scored 100 in that era.

[@11bornrich]

@@flatrateinspections6387 Not necessarily, because teams will violate and abuse rules or lack therof if they can 😂Just because one or two violates, doesn't mean everyone else would.

[@blinblinthing]

If you aren't taking 3s, sounds like less ball movement and a slower scoring tempo. I doubt that;'s gonna be a winning formula. Also, those HArden / Wade and KObe fouls they used to call don't happen no more.

[@Kinggoat24-s1k]

😂 ball movement isn't standing up in the corner waiting for someone to pass u the ball, half the league ain't steph, klay, kd ,stop it game is so trash

[@blinblinthing]

@@Kinggoat24-s1k how can ball movement be the person without the ball bruh? Quit letting hate talk, it's never a good look. If the ball handler drew a double team or collapsed the defense etc the ball needs to go to who has the higher percentage shot, simple. If the person you watched didn't have range to be in the corner, that's on him, not the people who do today.

[@kahmalmason5919]

​@@blinblinthingbody movement goes hand and hand with ball movement. If a player stands in the corner and has an open cut to the basket. I am not giving him the ball. Grow some nuts and dive hard to the damn basket.

[@Yrgzip0]

@@kahmalmason5919Off-ball movement ain’t just cutting to the rim. Watch Steph curry, the greatest 3 point shooter coincidentally has the best off-ball movement too. Does Steph just cut to the basket or does he sprint around the perimeter using screens? Generating 3s ain’t just standing in the corner…..watch the Celtics off-ball. There’s tons of movement……

[@armargo]

Watch rip Hamilton and ray Allen from 2000 to 2010 and say there’s no ball movement

[@fritzsonsainthilaire6153]

Gil comparing his Team to The Celtics who just WON a Championship 10:40 Gil wasn’t winning Nun

[@armargo]

They won because the entire league is a copy paste model. Get one team to go against the grain that’s efficient from the mid range and got dogs that’ll get in the trenches and get those missed 3’s off the glass and the 3 attempts will drop. Winning a championship doesn’t dismiss that the league is in a bad spot because there’s nothing to watch. Literally half the game is bricked 3’s. The middle of the floor is always empty and it’s just passes on the perimeter until someone FINALLY drives but even then there’s a 50/50 chance they’re just going to kick it out for yet another 3. The shit is boring

[@anthonyw895]

3s save your body. Easier than fighting in the midrange and paint

[@414Mufasa]

​@@armargo just give it about a season or 2 some coach with common sense and the right team will do exactly this and win it all, then the analytics nerds will have to conjure up numbers as to how that happened in a league full of 3 point teams and only then will the league go back to normal analytics nerds getting jobs in NBA front offices ruined the league they shouldn't be the overwhelming voice they should only add to the conversation

[@ash80510]

I don't always agree with Gil but this dudes talking straight facts

[@aksysus]

It’s not strictly more Possessions. There are a few more possessions this decade than the last one but the real factor is 3 point shots replacing other ones and also less free throws being shot because less aggression at the rim

[@blinblinthing]

Also, When people are missing shots now, they just suck, but when someone makes it, it's too easy and no one plays defense. Come on, both can't be true.

[@kwall25]

Nah bro its literally both. This gen of players aint it at all lmao😢

[@blinblinthing]

@@kwall25 both bad shooters against bad defence but score more with an extended 3 pt line?

[@ajdaking507]

​@@blinblinthingthe rules literally are designed to make offense easier by encouraging teams to shoot like this. So if you can't make shots in this era you literally are trash. That's not a hard concept to understand