Girl Chat: If You Propose and She Says No, Is the Relationship Over?

[@mysteriousfreak1998]

Public engagements are the worst, in my opinion. More pressure to say yes even if you want to say no.

[@nobutaaaaaaaaa]

It also feels manipulative. I told my boyfriend to not do this or get friends/family involved. I don’t like feeling pressured to say yes. It should be my decision because it’s my life

[@larrymoonlight2786]

@Thelondonbadger nice

[@eveevolution1607]

Mysterious Freak I always thought about that O would say yes so the person wouldn’t be embarrassed and break it in private. I couldn’t imagine saying no where there are 100,000 ppl. Even if I didn’t want to marry them I still wouldn’t want to embrasses them

[@K.aylarenae]

Mysterious Freak Depends on the person U shouldn’t feel pressured to say yes no matter wut the setting anyway, especially strangers

[@yippehanako]

@Thelondonbadger how is a private proposal manipulative to him?

[@blackbutterfly233ify]

1) it depends on the kind of relationship you're in 2) how long you've been together 3) how many times she said no

[@myhextixmind8632]

yes, all that plus why s/he said "no".

[@thrive2inspire854]

Yes, especially #3.

[@aleeyamarasmart5206]

Well my mom said no to my fathet 2 times and the third she said yes

[@mucheducation6074]

And if she wants to marry

[@AnaCyrus99]

and it depends if they talked about it. Like, people are not prepared to marry at the same time, and some people don't want to marry so it depends if they talked about that or not

[@lynn.d1015]

It doesn’t have to be over . My husband proposed 3 times before I said yes . And we have been married 33 years.

[@charlielily-wangjames3327]

Lynn .D congratulations 🍾🎊🎉🎈It’s soooo beautiful

[@mewtwomotherfuka]

Well you were this close to losing a great guy.

[@AaliyaahKetler]

Lynn .D idk why you would be proud of letting your man propose to you three times before accepting.

[@youngfunny1824]

Wow, he must've loved you more than himself. I would've bounced after the second time.

[@joshuawatson575]

He is a damn fool. After the first rejection he should have left.

[@nikkimirhosseyni9535]

I want to marry my current boyfriend, but if he proposed tomorrow, I'd say no! I want to be stable in life before I get married and I do not want to have a 3 year engagement.

[@sexyhomeowner9345]

If he's only your 'current' boyfriend then it is probably wise he doesn't propose. :p

[@crystaledson]

I know right but i was at this theological private college ( eveangelical church connected) they asked me if i was dating any1 < so i said yes and then they asked me if i was gonna get married to this person < so i said yes ( ME AND MY BOYFRIEND DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC) < we will marry 100% but < the time + we must still get financially stable so they said to me = Money should not stand in loves way ? so i thought - who are you to tell me how my relationship with him suppose to be : just caz you know his your soul mate and and r still planning on marrying but not yet , caz we're suppose to be stable 1st < to live together PLANNING IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO i feel . it's not like yur wasting time - you know he's/she's the one and then you plan and then you get stable and then you marry i feel like churches "some" push ppl in getting married marriage is a big thing too everything has to feel right - then you can but waiting for right timing < is not wrong or sinning

[@prncessbaby16]

@@crystaledson what do y'all consider financially stable? I feel like there's never gonna be a "perfect" time to get married. If I hate waited until I was financially stable, I may not have been married until I was like 40 or something who knows. Marriage is for growing together. I agree that it's up to you to decide when it's right for y'all,but if you wait until everything is perfect, I'll just tell you now that life will never be perfect.

[@nikkimirhosseyni9535]

Cheyenne Michelle-Rena I mean for us we want to be finished with our education and have jobs that enable us to afford a place to live. Right now he is getting ready to graduate from university, I'm about to go into my second degree which I will graduate from in June 2020, and neither of us has a permanent job. We feel 2021 will probably be our year to get engaged, 2022 married. I just don't want to be financially dependent on him and doesn't want to be fully dependent on me.

[@ticklezx]

Smart thinking!! Me and my boyfriend have the same outlook.

[@JennHayden]

adrienne is speaking for all the low self-esteem women out there. people pleasing and saying yes when you want to say no because you are too afraid to be alone.

[@amisa.k5993]

Hahahaha

[@joycekimuhu8426]

U've said it better, this is very true

[@rosaazul88]

Exactly! Like oh but it's ok when men NEVER propose? If the woman is ok with it let it be same for a woman

[@jasminevaliente96]

Exactly and am I bugging or do I recall Adrienne saying yes to someone and staying engaged forever and not getting married to them? Lol isnt that more wasting someones time than just saying no I'm not ready

[@TheCutiepie2004]

@@jasminevaliente96 Lenny S.

[@mrsb0215]

Great question. I think it depends on their relationship.

[@azadikurdi1059]

You mean answer.

[@mrsb0215]

Azadi Kurdi I meant great question. I had a typo that I will fix. Thanks

[@gamalsankara1388]

Yeah for sure its over.

[@barbararichardson2747]

@@gamalsankara1388 Should depend on length of the relationship and if there are issues.Better to say no and work on fixing problem before.

[@samiekallen4442]

MrsB WHO DAD IS THAT

[@chanellebooysen9570]

The married man spoke so well. I don't know why but I'm so proud of him

[@oremfrien]

If I propose to a woman and she says, “No”; I’m leaving. If she says, “Not Yet”, and gives a realistic timeline, I’ll reassess.

[@anabel5205]

That’s the keyword, “not yet”. My boyfriend and I have been together for two years and there’s not a single doubt that this is the guy I want to enjoy the rest of my life with but there’s also no doubt that I’m not ready for engagement let along marriage and neither is he and that gives me peace in a way because neither of us feel pressured.

[@Dekthagr8]

I think it depends on your age. At 32 I don’t need to date you for 5+ years years to find out your not the one. Time is soo precious in your 30’s and I know what I want. I’ve established boundaries, reflected, mediated and worked on me. My sister dated a man for 8+ years, 26-34 and when she turned 30 started asking for more. He was uncomfortable and they broke up. When your young you have time, but when your older you need to be selective and work on you in order to know what you will accept or not.

[@monicafabiola785]

Agree

[@massymarole529]

Absolutely! I think we're always clear on what we want.

[@lauramillanes5178]

Dekthagr8 I agree.

[@SoulinTheBowl]

Agree 1000%! At 27 I know what I want and I don’t need 5 years to get to know a guy.

[@suziethebride2018]

I so love you right now, in my 30s, and I am glad I never got married earlier..

[@MajesticMyronn]

Girl Chats like these where it's just literally listening and understand each point of view and actually asking questions instead of just saying what you need to say is something that I love and honestly is very unique about this show in general apart from other ones !

[@trichardson6824]

Friend do you have a notification of when girl chats are uploaded because I always see you saying something on every vid

[@MajesticMyronn]

T Richardson yes 😂

[@rosevelezschaffry]

Myronn Coleman me too girl 😂

[@Tan87ful]

Agreed 💯👏🏽

[@ybur6760]

Yeah, unlike the View. They argue too much there and some women don’t like hearing the opinion of others.

[@Bribgaming]

My father asked my mother twice. She wasn't ready the first time. They had just graduated HS the first time he asked (they started dating the end of their sophomore year). He waited a few more years before he proposed again and she of course said yes. They got married in 1987 when I was 2 (I am 35 now) and are still together. Although my father was salty when she said no, he said it was okay because he had already decided that she was worth waiting for. He knew when they met that he was going to marry her. That to me is an excellent love story.

[@moira4784]

I feel like if he proposes it means he is ready for a next chapter. And if you say no that means you ain't ready. So he gets to decide whether he wants to stick through or call it quits. My thoughts.

[@sonatashinome4672]

That’s why you need to have the talk and be sincere. You need to be able to let each other know how you really feel and plan it all out with a positive compromise. That way you can both be in the same page. When the next chapter comes you both will just get on with it naturally.

[@KemiAdorin]

fire the person who did lonnie's makeup, this episode.

[@americausa5448]

Kemi Adorin' I was thinking the same thing 😱

[@foreverscottierenee.7459]

I was looking to see if I was the only one who noticed.

[@alurgickxx2xxluv]

It's her under eye highlight smh wrong shade

[@karatsierra9427]

Its def the highlight

[@AH-os9dy]

Kemi Adorin' I came to say the same thing! Girl they made her look ghostly 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@dainonmcduffie4396]

Loni’s makeup artist forgot to brush off her baking powder under her eyes. 😅

[@quishajerry9093]

Really you'll with Loni's 💄 haha

[@victoriadavis4608]

I thought it was just me, I’m glad someone else noticed it

[@Kuhle980]

I feel like she didn't see it like the lighting they were under kind of deceived the make up artist. Because the closer you get to Loni's face you can barely see it

[@TB-bv1vr]

Are we not gonna talk about how Loni’s makeup artist needs to be fired?

[@jordanharrington1890]

T Burke It’s just a little too much highlight( I think it’s called ) on her face lol

[@phyllis9853]

@@jordanharrington1890 I think it's setting powder

[@corinnedominique7824]

Exactly. I was looking for this comment. Her undereyes are still baking. Look white like flour. Nope...looks bad

[@oki2660]

Omg always they use wrong powder weekly it seems

[@LyricREACTS]

rightttt, they're bogus.

[@lilyzemengist8091]

There should a discussion about marriage before the surprise proposal period. I don't believe in this fairytale crap. Grown women talk about the important stuff before they consent to or accept anything a man gives them period.

[@milirodriguez8493]

That is completely true.Even on a first date.Maybe not go into complete detail but do mention what you look in a partner(wait until you get married to have a passion connection,marriage,kids,etc) because at the end of the day,you can completely love eachother but at the end of the day,you guys might want something else and wont realize until mid into the relationship.

[@lilyzemengist8091]

@Anne Day Exactly, you worded that perfectly! It's not fair to any good relationship to throw up marriage in the air and hope it lands in a safe place. Marriage is a delicate flower that needs to be handled with the up most care, seriousness, and consideration while watering it along the way to forever.

[@marykariuki7381]

True! I do not believe in a surprise proposal, lets talk about our relationship goals. Do not surprise me with a marriage proposal, I would hate it!

[@Tan87ful]

Exactly 😂😂💯💯

[@JB-ws4dc]

PERIOD!!!!! (I know this is old, lol) If my boyfriend proposed to me, then we already had this conversation over and over again about when we’ll both be ready to do it and where we would want to be in life when it happens.

[@bookbag6432]

Jeannie knew within the first 6 months her marriage was not gonna last.

[@Tan87ful]

Good point

[@Dekthagr8]

Wow!! 15 whole minutes 😱. There is a Santa! Lol.

[@drtash21]

Well in that case Santa might need to consider retirement cause he's 2 years too late!!

[@Dekthagr8]

drtash21 lol. Baby steps.

[@MostHighDwelling]

No, there isn’t.

[@aleeshaali3650]

Lol bless you😂

[@raiethefantibae]

Am i the only one who feels like asking someone to marry you is just as big a deal, scary, daunting etc as saying yes?

[@Picmehappy]

This is an old episode. They didn’t have that fenty beauty shade range. 😬🤦🏽‍♀️

[@arminarlerrrrrrrtt495]

You don’t know. She could’ve saved it or something? Idk

[@theaubreyjames]

Hahaha

[@fourthdayofoctober]

True

[@jayjanzee9059]

Thank you Adrienne for interpreting that man's "whatever it was." He was talking in circles so hard. Annoying.😒😒😒 Glad Tamera called him out

[@piselasjournal]

Tamera is always georgeous... skin glowww

[@shay-c3671]

Skin, hair, body glow...

[@SD-hs2pk]

Engagement is preparing wedding and putting things together for marriage. The relationship is where you continually see if you fit.

[@Anigel22]

sd v - Thank you !!

[@eileenwelter90]

I think there is something about purposeful dating. Dating to just date is maybe a few dates. Courting however is with knowing you have marriage as the goal.

[@phyllis9853]

I agree. I think you hit a certain age where you date to marry. Like 23 and up...

[@Flustered_Potato]

Yup yup.

[@sheilahutchinson6161]

Teach lady so women can know the difference!

[@aleksandrifyful]

Why can’t the purpose of dating just be to be in a relationship? Why does it always have to lead to marriage? I mean, how much can you truly know about someone after a few dates to want to pursue marriage? And why does marriage ALWAYS have to be the end goal? Why do people always think that a relationship is a failure or unfulfilling if you don’t get married?

[@scrapbookdreamer1055]

hannahbannana well if you don’t want to get married right now, don’t date people who do

[@raquel4ashley]

Sometimes i think Adrianna is still hurting

[@jackieagard537]

Over Rob, she so sorry she missed out on being a Kardashians .

[@britbritnicole]

Support the Obvious yeah I think she probably feels like I should’ve left a long time ago

[@raquel4ashley]

@@britbritnicole I totally agree

[@Tan87ful]

BritBrit Nicole agreed

[@user-si6gs3ne8l]

She probably is you don't just get over stuff it takes time. She definetly seems like she's in a better place tho

[@monicamycbm]

It kills me to hear Jeanie talk about Freddie😭😭😭

[@monapizzalover7140]

2017😱?? Why are all the episodes old😭😭😭 I love you guys though. But we need the new ones

[@killerrobots9]

But It’s a “talk show” not a “daily show”. This conversation is pertinent even if it’s from 2 years ago.

[@monikaranee]

I noticed that, this is old.

[@rtmusicvideos431]

I wonder how Jeanie would feel about the proposal now that she's divorced her ex-husband. Hopefully now she sees that she was pressured into marrying him because he proposed to her in front of all her family, because it seems likely that's what happened. That's kind of a manipulative thing for a guy to do because it almost forces her to say yes.

[@quingelobrunken7168]

@@rtmusicvideos431 I agree!👏

[@QueenWithBrains]

Mona Pizzalover every now and again they’ll go in the archives and post a long girl chat clip from a couple years ago

[@Jihye10]

I respect Tamara's way of finding love. She found someone who waited for her (sexually as well) and what they have know is amazing. I wish there were more guys like that out there

[@cwchris_]

It’s sad hearing Jeannie say these things, when we know now the truth. She said she realized one year in that they weren’t right for each other.

[@thatlittlehuman9238]

Adrienne brings up a good point about saying yes because you invested so much time. I did that, but I knew it wasn’t right for me. Thought it was cold feet but I KNEW. Divorced now and couple years later I am now taking my time.

[@SweetGlitter1309]

My mom said no the first time my dad proposed. She just wasn’t ready. She eventually said yes and they will be married 30 years in July!

[@lifewithcaroline8196]

Adrienne used to be so broken inside. Am happy she has found the man who loves her for real and THAT has restored her self esteem back.

[@huda9445]

What if the man is not ready and the girl is pressuring him, because I hear a lot that if a girl is not ready he should give her time and stuff like that , but if a man is not ready he immediately is a “ player “ or immature. I know this is not for everybody and every relationship is different but I was just giving an example.

[@CrystalReneeMusic]

Regardless of the gender, if 1 person is not ready just end the relationship period. No one should be forced to marry and no one should feel strung along. The 2 obviously are not on the same page. End the relationship, go your seperate ways.

[@TheWilliamsrandell]

I call it a double standard and I don't know where it comes from

[@Brynn332]

If it's under three years its pressuring if it's over three years and he cant commit hes the problem.

[@ydaphuck__youlyin6978]

Ok now Who did Loni’s undereyes??? Lol

[@shay-c3671]

I saw that too😥😂😂😂

[@briannahunter5688]

Not even trynna be rude but . . . . . 😂🤭They should really delete this

[@lashawnmurden3047]

Dtflll I was looking at that omgg

[@faridasaleh7934]

For real they still letting her bake till this day

[@lashoybruce8646]

Her co hosts could have told a sis something tho

[@berniceanne]

That man is so sweet! And it's interesting to see how different their answers were!

[@MiVidaBellisima]

If she says no it's probably your fault. This isnt the 50s. You have the marriage conversation BEFORE you propose so you already know she's ready for that step. If you surprise her with that question (never had that convo) then you leave the possibility that you might just be surprised by the answer! Don't assume that just bc you're ready that she is too!

[@Tan87ful]

Exactly 💯💯👏🏽👏🏽

[@mofexp3cialgirl779]

Why doesn't the woman tell the man off hand that she's not ready for marriage?...shm😒

[@vsboardza]

👏👏👏

[@CS-sv8fg]

but if she is ready but he isn't, its still his fault right?

[@SupaSnupak00pa]

Funny how her not being ready is his fault. Why does he have to take responsibility for her not making conscious moves toward the next step? If you are saying that she is saying no because she doesn't see him as marriage material or doesn't see the potential, then she has to make that apparent or end the relationship. As the old sayings go, 1) a closed mouth does not get fed. 2) the squeaky wheel gets the oil. This is exactly why people look for closure in the end. Their ex never communicated what they needed and had the unreasonable expectation for them to just figure it out.

[@valencias.9777]

Loni it's time for a new make up artist. They've had you out here looking crazy more then once.

[@MsVeeTheVisionary]

Yesss. I noticed this several times

[@mixeduh]

@@MsVeeTheVisionary Full on beard. Love her, but full on beard. :(

[@mixeduh]

Look at Adrianne's makeup too! They made her look so old here. :( Adrianne is a summer, she doesn't need piles of makeup on.

[@breadbutter4221]

Five years is a long time to be dating before getting married. How much are you going to know about a man or woman in 5 years that you couldn't learn in 1 year or 2 years? I'm sure Tamera learned more about Adam when she started living with him as husband and wife, when they became parents etc. There's so much that you can learn before marriage but after marriage there's so much more that 5 years still wouldn't have prepared you for.

[@jasminevaliente96]

A LOT. Life can be going swell for a year TRUST and believe my husband was making triple the money he makes now that first year we dated, his family was all in good health, he was in good health, his career seemed secure as he had been there for over a few years, we didnt live together so he could run and clean everything before I came over, he had a new car so always reliable transportation...... girl by year 3 that company he worked with got bought out and they fired all their employees, he lost his place and had to move in with his mom, a few months later his mom developed a health issue that made work hard for her so he ran out of savings trying to provide for her, his car note became too much he had to give it shot his credit, he had no reliable transportation so seeing me was hard to do unless I did all the driving which hurt his pride. I got to see the real man he was when his life got hard and he still made me a priority, busted his ass and ego at low income jobs while he searched for a higher paid one so he could take care of his mother and take me out even when he didnt have to, see that throughout all of that stress he NEVER snapped on me or his loved ones remained positive despite having to get up everyday to catch a bus or carpool to all these odd jobs until he could buy a unreliable car that took hella patience to deal with. Long story short while I lucked out and found a man who remained in good character even through hard times which taught me he was the one. I could have easily married him when he proposed at 9 months only to discover a man who pushed me away because I had more, gave up trying to progress, lived off his momma for free despite her struggling, cheated on me because his ego was hurt he lost everything, used me and got comfortable. YOU CAN LEARN ALOT MORE IN 5 YEARS than 1 and that's a psychological fact.

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Because you need to *know* that person thoroughly before you make that decision to be with them forever. Marriage is not something you rush into

[@Dekthagr8]

Jasmine Valiente but did you honestly need the adversity to show you his true character and that he was the one? I could be misinterpreting so correct me if I’m wrong, but did the adversity confirm what you already knew to be true? Couldn’t this have occurred at any point in your relationship or even 6 years after you married?

[@leroymckenziejr.jnfenterpr567]

Well said!!!

[@breadbutter4221]

@@Dekthagr8 exactly.

[@dionnejackson7697]

It depends on the reason. When my husband first proposed, I said no because I knew it wasn't time. We kept dating and maturing and when he asked the second time, I said yes.

[@Kay-zl3qx]

Damn I’m here for these long segments! 🤗

[@kathope4484]

It's only long because it's old

[@andriamorgan586]

This hit home for me. I married for the wrong reasons and I was so young. I found myself in my marriage and found out we weren't right or each other years later. We are both divorced and found happiness. This is a must watch for all women.

[@Jadedyxy]

Marriage is hard period, I don't care how long you are dating or engaged because God will surprise you with his testings. It takes a lot of sacrifices to make a marriage work.

[@harmoniaaydeegonzalez7020]

I am with Adrian! Unless there is a very compelling reason for the "no".. then we are done. You're wasting my time because an engagement doesnt mean marriage is imminent. An engagement means there's a definite intention to be married. If you say no, depending on the reason.. then you're telling me that you don't intend on being married ever. So.. goodbye.

[@Tan87ful]

Good point

[@jayjanzee9059]

Very good point❤

[@KaysieDaniels]

My dad proposed after a year and a half and at 2 years, my mom said no. She waited until around 3 years of dating to be engaged since he was in Florida for school for 9 months of their relationship. She wanted to make sure she knew him!

[@ezekielsprophecy3203]

I remember reading in a psychology book that it takes 3-4 years to get to know somebody. So getting engaged before then is self sabotage. Like Tamera said, there is an infatuation stage and that definitely doesn’t mean that you know them just because you’re on top of each other 24/7 😹

[@karlenedavies6655]

I love how honest these ladies are! they are the epitome of real! They opening up like this is going to help a lot of younger women who is yet to go through these things.

[@AmberRandallArt]

My man proposed because I’m pregnant. I told him no, let’s have this baby and get back to ourselves and make sure our relationship is healthy first. We’re still together soooo..

[@debbiedebz7297]

That's the stupidest thing I have heard in a while u already having a bby why not get married ...he can always leave u cuz he doesn't owe u anything but with a marriage its different

[@DiorMiss16]

Debbie debz they have a kid together! marriage doesn’t solve everything and it’s not necessary if it’s not going to be healthy

[@Sumi2379]

Debbie debz no it’s not tf? Maybe she wants to make sure he’s not marrying her just bc they’re having a baby & that can over hype the excitement of everything. Or maybe she’s not ready yet. Nothing wrong with having a baby before marriage btw everyone has different beliefs, chill out 🙄

[@debbiedebz7297]

@@Sumi2379 not ready for marriage but your ready for a bby... I was raised differently can't have a bby out of wedlock and whether he marrying her just cuz she is pregnant she should be glad cuz a lot of men wouldn't do it ....they would just have you as a next baby mama at least he wants to man up and make it official but I guess y'all love playing baby mama roles

[@Tan87ful]

Interesting.

[@tonia2483]

My stepdad asks my mom EVERYDAY to marry him and she says no lol. They've been together for over 20years.

[@reemzilla]

How is he your step dad then

[@malisykes7357]

Reem because she stepped up to the role as her father

[@tonia2483]

Reem you do realize people dont need to get married to have children right, that goes for taking over the role as well.

[@reemzilla]

Tonia's Reviews I know that. I thought that you had to marry tho to claim “step-parent”

[@katwolf897]

@@reemzilla to legally be the step parent you do have to marry, but to use the title? Nah. If a man has been with the woman long enough and involved with her kids, and they plan to stay together without marrying, for all intents and purposes, he is the stepdad

[@carissamarella9614]

"Sometimes, people say "yes" for the wrong reason"

[@JennHayden]

jeannie without her hair pieces 😂😂😂😂 i love it

[@jens8223]

U do? Lmao

[@kathope4484]

It's an old video

[@jens8223]

@@kathope4484 it is an old video but she does have short hair and wears extensions

[@britbritnicole]

This was one of my favorite girl chats. When I get engaged I want to be 100% sure he’s the one for me and him too.

[@sonatashinome4672]

From all this information not just the video but the comment section..a lot of people aren’t ready. Why are you in a relationship if you’re still trying to fix yourself or be at a comfortable place where you’re happy with yourself? Please ask that. Go into a relationship/courtship and for a couple of years get engaged a year later if not less get married. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE TALK AND BE SINCERE. *Communication is key.*

[@oppsendless3814]

My boyfriend and I were together over 10 years when he proposed; we started dating when I was 17. I said no because I was not ready to give 💯 of me to him due to some prior hurts that he put me through...yes even after 10 years...but I wanted him to know that I still love him and will continue to commit to working on our issues together. I also made it clear that I do not expect him to wait. But to him, he would have waited forever. Just being together was enough. It took a few more years but we got there. I got there. We got married when we were both financially and emotionally ready. We are celebrating 20 years in May. We are at peace and in the best place ever.

[@Koalatronic]

If one proposes and the other says no then its over. Not because of the no as such, but because it highlights you are in different places and are unable to know and read each others wants and needs.

[@cristinasolano6487]

Just talk about it with your partner. Make sure both are in the same page. Communication is key!

[@michaelbenjudah3010]

Adrian is right! Women usually never give men good advice but she kept it real on this. If you're with a woman and you propose and she says no that means she doesn't love you as much as you think. Don't even waste your time. Contrary to popular belief most men want to get married but they end up getting involved with women who don't really care about them. Get out while you can so you can move on to someone who actually wants to get married.

[@Shady.K1lls]

2:46 lol that girl in the back made her man put his hand up 😂

[@shaynanichelle8621]

I’m with Tam, I want to really get to know the man I’m going to marry, so I’d like to date them for 2-3 years before I even think about marriage.

[@eunicewilliams3]

Get to no the person before y marry them.whats done in the dark is always brought to the light

[@ricoetbello]

I feel like it depends how long you've been together or even how old you are. Most people should talk about these things as a couple. If you don't wanna marry him, let him be

[@Tan87ful]

Agreed

[@jonatadelicia4916]

Tam: What’s a black book?😂😂 The table: Unun Tam💀💀💀

[@phillipswatson3452]

Netta Netta 😎 SWEETIE...TAM KINDER SLOW AT TIMES!!!

[@phillipswatson3452]

Brittany FFF 😎 OK YOU'RE SLOW ALSO😝LOL😝

[@Tan87ful]

😂😂😂

[@sonatashinome4672]

Unun?? What? 😶😶

[@jonatadelicia4916]

Sonata Shinome meaning like “No”

[@CC-si3cr]

I LOVE IT when Adrienne pokes Loni in the arm or grabs her arm then hugs her. ❤️💕❤️💕❤️💕 Then Loni laughs. It's so sweet and loving. It shows how real their friendship really is on and off the show. 🤗

[@RTA6226]

I agree with that man. I also agree with Adrienne. ALL women don't want to get married. Usually that should be made clear in the beginning of the relationship. That way no one's time is wasted.

[@Candaicelovesjesus]

Who keeps messing up loni makeup?!?

[@workingonmyself]

HeyFatty ok. I thought I was being over critical.

[@katelynbrown98]

Wow!! This conversation taught so much!! Ya'll are so gracious and authentic. It's best to be 100% sure than rocky and have to divorce. Even calling off an engagement is better than divorce. Do what you know is right and NEVER silence your intuition. That voice is ALWAYS right.

[@dainaclbks8411]

I really wonder what Jeannie was thinking in this segment... 😬

[@Parisroam]

It depends on the relationship and the reason why she said no. It could be the wrong time, not that she's wasting time. Maybe there are some things she needs to finnish before becoming a unit. But again, it depends, maybe she isnt trying to marry tgus specific dude, which is why communication is so important.

[@abagfullofcats4247]

I said yes to a man who was everything I *should* want, but I knew deep down I wasn't ready for marriage and I may never be because I had (and still do) work in myself to do. Sadly, telling him this hurt him. To this day I feel guilt for ever having let that relationship go on for as long as I did. It was unfair to him.

[@barbararichardson2747]

Applaud your honesty and sure he does to.Few of us take responsibility and admit we need to work on ourselves first.The rest spend the rest of their lives blaming the other person .

[@MsCristina38]

You did him a favour. He deserves a woman that’s fully in love with him which he probably has found by now. You did yourself a favour and him a favour. Please don’t feel guilty.

[@abagfullofcats4247]

@@MsCristina38 I don't keep tabs on the few Ex boyfriends I have, but I do know he married someone he loves and he's happy. My regret is that I wasn't able to articulate myself in that pivotal moment. I had undiagnosed BPD and managing emotions was hard for me. The way I ended the relationship probably felt sudden and hurtful to him after several years of waiting for me.

[@MsCristina38]

@@abagfullofcats4247 I totally get you. But people are resilient and he proved that by falling madly in love with the woman he married, you've become just a pleasant memory to him. It's not like you scarred him for life and he never fell in love again. He fell out of love you a long time ago so please don't beat yourself up plus you already have enough on your plate to manage with your mental health. It's very difficult having BPD but people who have it recover from it and go on to lead fulfilling lives, it's not a death sentence and you sound like a very brave person who is going to win at life.

[@nancygonzales4800]

I agree... I was in a really long committed relationship and he wanted to get engaged but it didn’t seem right so I ended up leaving before things got messy but I was checked out from the relationship for a long time. So I give girls props who leave or speak up when things are not right, don’t settle until you are truly ready.

[@khristynelove]

My husband asked me after 3months of us being together and I said NO. Just because the relationship was still brand new. Now we going on 10yrs and married after five years♡ he said I was worth the wait.

[@Tan87ful]

Cool

[@androssteague]

Not now is a TBD answer. No means No. If you been dating for 3-5 years and she flat out says no... It's a wrap. I agree with Adrienne.

[@vianneynay]

I wish they talked about stuff like this still. The topics they now talk about have changed slightly more and more.

[@Colombianminx]

Omg yes!!! I’ve been engaged many times and each time I’ve backed out. My gut said each man was cheating and each time I was right. Trust your gut and never give into pressure to say yes. Your intuition will always tell you if it’s right.

[@Munsjvc2]

No and not right now are two different things. I said no at first, but eventually I was ready and we have been married almost 12 years now.

[@geee5296]

Hmmm tbh if he proposes and she says no, I’m assuming they didn’t really took the time to talk about getting married and their future life together. To me when a man proposes, he has to make sure he’s really ready, but also has to be sure about the answer.

[@Tan87ful]

Exactly

[@vintagemeetsmymojo]

My mom told my dad no 3 times, abd they've been married for 31 years. It depends on the relationship.

[@yummynutellacupcake]

everyone talkin bout Loni's highlight and ignoring how bad Jeannie's lashes look 💀

[@Fridarida]

anybody else rewatch old girl chats and pretend you never seen them before lol

[@elsilinwood1902]

I think that a proposal should be intimate. Doing a proposal public is putting on pressure. No one makes a right decision under pressure.

[@Tan87ful]

Agreed 💯💯💯💯

[@taiyonatiare7918]

I think it goes both ways. If the guy proposes but the girl says no it depends on the relationship whether they continue or not. But if the girl keeps hinting and being pushy that she wants him to propose when hes not ready then it should be the same.

[@itselena9307]

Sometimes people just aren’t ready. The relationship isn’t over if you both have that understanding that you should wait it all depends on the relationship.

[@nolaclarke253]

A proposal represents a man's future intent so it doesn't matter when he proposes. If a woman declines, she should end the relationship and pursue her potential partner. Sometimes you are his ideal but don't accept the proposal if he isn't ideal for you. These events are just forks in the road meant to get you on the right track. If you ignore it, you will find yourself going in and out of relationships until you find that ideal mate.

[@natyshageorge5419]

My aunt said she would never want to get married but she had been with someone for a long time and said yes because she actually truly loves him

[@lindachinirlovesuga.3663]

We should never say yes even though it's going to break the relationship if we don't feel right

[@evelynoshae7781]

If she said No, the man needs to figure out why she did?

[@mastermindtv170]

Sal Mah Sal she needs to speak up and say why she said no. Men always have to figure stuff but when it’s the other way around then women want men to communicate.

[@SupaSnupak00pa]

Nah, if she says no, then the man needs to up and leave. She sees no future with him and is basically just holding on until something better comes along. There is nothing to figure out, you are not the one. Get the heart break over with and move on. The longer you try to stay in that relationship, the less she is going to respect you. As a man, if you had any self respect you would leave.

[@ShaydahandSaharavlogs]

It depends on how formal the proposal is. But if I was the guy, I have to say I would be pretty crushed.

[@luzkairyromero8167]

Ooooo good question!! There’s no objective answer to this, but here’s my take: No one is entitled to a “yes”. When a “no” is the response to the question, the partner should discuss why and it’s the “why” that determines if the relationship continues or not.

[@KimorasMommy]

Yes it’s over, why would you wanna stay in a relationship with that person? If you’re in a longterm relationship the point is to get married. That’s why you get to know people and tell them what you want and don’t want in a relationship.

[@blackbutterfly233ify]

You're not in a relationship to get married. You need to want more for yourself

[@shantatv3185]

blackbutterfly233ify what’s more? Lol

[@monay6576]

Keisha LaShae Not really, I think it depends on the reasoning. Some people may want to get married but aren’t ready at that moment. Or like tamera said it may be way too soon in the relationship. I feel if it’s either of those two reasons and a man knows that’s the woman he wants to marry he would be willing to wait.

[@kimwright6377]

This is what men and women need to understand.Who you are and what you think you know changes.When you’re twenty five what you think you know will change at thirty and when 40 comes so on and so on.Its growth and you never stop growing.So don’t always be so sure that you know it all and that’s the way it’s gonna be.And then life happens nothing is set in stone.My point is people get married to there ideas and don’t except change and they can just stay stuck on an ideal that just may not be for them and it’s okay to do something else.

[@nelobaby1676]

Jeannie you don't need to turn 30 to figure it out. Some people do so in their early 20s . For me depends on the situation and the people involved

[@alymarielogan]

I think it absolutely depends on why she says no. If she’s saying no bc she’s not financially ready to be married, maybe she’s still in college, maybe it’s too soon into the relationship . I think it’s ok to wait. But if she’s saying no bc she just doesn’t wanna get married . Maybe it’s best to walk away bc you want different things

[@Sahrah3201]

I love loni and Adrienne's relationship they're the cutest ♥️

[@ashleyanglemyer-anderson2304]

I needed this advice from you ladies, i respect you're advice so much so that i come to your show almost every time...because i dont have friends of my own that i can have these chats with...thank you for going out on a limb once again to tell your stories ladies...from the bottom of my heart thank you because i know what to do

[@nungacynderilla5095]

Yes I’ve said yes to an engagement that I knew deep down my heart it was never gonna lead any where.... I totally understand Adrienne..

[@tresarobinson9]

My take: if a man proposes to "keep you" or because ya'll been into it & he thinks proposing will shut you cause you been throwing hints, that's grounds for it to be over when you turn him down. Not only is it about time together & readiness, it can also be about the timing of the proposal that can prompt a woman to say no.

[@harriswanga1112]

You could tell jeanie's marriage was over before it begun by the way she always talked about it 💔

[@MrsPetal]

If a woman said no and he asked, she needs to pack her bags and get the f out it's literally over.

[@tonia2483]

I understand it's a pain in the ass stop asking me when I'm having kids and when I'm getting married. It ain't gonna happen stop asking.

[@leslie9235]

If the proposal happens in public just fake it by saying "yes". Don't say "NO !" In front of everybody. Then you will engage a conversation in which you will be honest with your partner.

[@jayko4732]

I love the real so much! It’s literally relatable ❤️😍

[@BriaBarrows]

it is.

[@ker_possible]

I said yes. Because I don’t mind being engaged. But I’m just not sure if I’m with the person I should marry or if I am ready for the commitment it requires of me.