Girl Power! | Horse Racing's Top 10 Greatest Ever Mares Worldwide | From Enable & Winx To Zenyatta

From the Breeders' Cup to Royal Ascot and the Melbourne Cup, these champion horses have won some of the biggest horse races in the world.
Superstar race mares Enable, Winx and Zenyatta have captured the imagination of racing fans all over the world...and this is why.
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[@WorldHorseRacing]

What was your favourite performance?

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

For me, I love watching Winx run and do it without needing to be switched like most of the others. She looks like she enjoys beating those boys.

[@karenshaub8273]

Are they just dealing with European mares? No Rachel Alexandra, and no mention of Go For Wand who broke down in the stretch run of her Breeders Cup race. I've never seen a worse one. OR Ruffian who broke down in a match race against colt Foolish Pleasure.

[@pandereekandapaera2939]

The Black Caviar always

[@franckmartin9095]

Gentildonna, Dubaï Sheema Classic vs Cirrus des Aigles 🙂

[@MoniekRedhead]

My favourite performances are not in this video. Zenyatta her last race was the most impressive one in her career for me personal. And where's Rachel Alexandra? And please don't forget the world best 2 mares ever Ruffian and Kincsem (still holds the record of most unbeaten races 54 wins in 54 starts!) Second on the list is 25 unbeaten races by Black Caviar...

[@robertsmale3714]

Where is Ruffian and Rachael Alexandria?! Like seriously these two are brilliant and two of the top fillies EVER!

[@davidbracher8322]

Rachael Alexandra...that's funny

[@robertsmale3714]

@@davidbracher8322 Funnny that she was a top class race horse.

[@johnwalsh3215]

Yeah I’m with you with Ruffian! She’s one of the top 10 horses of all time!

[@davidbracher8322]

@@robertsmale3714 it said the 10 best race mares ever. Would you like me to name 20 better than Rachel Alexandra. Glorious Song for example. She spent most of her career beating colts like the great John Henry and Precisionist. Even gave the mighty Spectacular Bid a decent effort. Bayakoa is another. Her speed figures dwarf R.A. 2 time distaff Breeders cup champion. Should I go on?

[@davidbracher8322]

@@johnwalsh3215 Top 10 horses? Or Fillies? She certainly gets nowhere near the top 10 horses of all time. That is an elite group there.

[@youngyajirobe498]

Zenyatta would’ve left all them in the dust, I seen her run in Hollywood park, Del Mar, and Santa Anita, with a vintage mike smith ride I don’t believe anyone could beat her! “I am aware she lost her last race but making up 25 lengths and loosing by a nose” Sesh wow

[@csbcsb4458]

Loosing isn't the word you're looking for...

[@MoniekRedhead]

My personal opinion is that her last race was actually her best... Even though she lost by a nose...

[@jackkey2199]

winx would have made her look like a small kid

[@bgardiner2000]

Zenyatta was horrendously over rated and protected

[@theOlLineRebel]

Not a chance. Please remember she ran almost exclusively on polytrack, which was the fad for a bit, and only twice IIRC on real dirt. Polytrack turned out to be more equivalent to turf running. Next, she ran but twice against males. Yes, she did very well in BCC which is supposed to be tops, but still only twice out of many. And BCC/KYDerby/etc? Too often these races allow no-account horses; I've always been aggravated by that, if they're restricted, how do these hardly-allowance horses get in?

[@pally4everr]

no one gave the chills Queen Zenyatta gave... from last to 1st stopping passing and accelarating again to top speed ...this horse was just supreme. Theres no comparison and im not talking about the results or the money they made or w/e. Im talking about the IMPACT of the horse and the WAY she won.

[@MoniekRedhead]

My horse ran (and won) with the same strategy as Zenyatta.

[@charfras4767]

If you check Zenyattas fastest time for the 1.25 at the Breeders cup on dirt is faster than Winx's fastest time for slightly less distance 2200 furlongs on grass. Dirt is much harder to win on. Also Makybe Dive should be much higher because she won the toughest race in Australia 3x. Something that may never be matched. Now here is the real top ten: 1 Zenyatta (No female will ever compete with her speed PERIOD. Like Secretariat she only gets faster each quarter and at the end of both BCC she was running over 40 MPH across the finish line) 2 Genuine Risk (only female to place 1st or 2nd in all triple crown races) 3 Lady's Secret (only horse to win 8 grade 1s in one season) 4 Ruffian (Legend) 5 Makybe Diva (3 Melbourne Cups) 6 Winx (Incredible 4 Cox plates and other records. But Cox plate and QE Stakes are less demanding than the Melbourne Cup. They should have raced her in either the Breeders Classic or Dubai Cup) 7 Rachel (best 3 year old filly season ever) 8 Black Caviar 9 Rags to Riches 10 Beholder

[@Ned-e9o]

US doesn't time the race when the barriers open - only after a run-up which could be a variety of distances. US Times are a concoction therefore and not as fast as they publicize. Winx would beat her on class and her ability to win consistently over a variety of conditions. Note Winx's record in unrestricted competition.

[@grahamleadbeatter5981]

Black Caviar was injured at Ascot and was having trouble stretching out. She still won of course, but if you check out some of her Australian runs, you'll see that see was much better than many people believe.

[@grahamleadbeatter5981]

@@underscore2824 If you check her breeding you'll see that she has a double cross from Vain. You are right though, Vain was probably the best of the lot.

[@elgransenor1472]

Graham Leadbeatter You'll see from the fact he brought up enable and Winx in a discussion about vain and black caviar that you are dealing with a troll. Waste of time responding. I never saw Vain but I believe BC is the best sprinter the world has seen at least for the past 50 years. Hard to compare Vain and BC as he did most of his great work at 2 and 3 and she didn't really hit the big time until she was 4/5.

[@grahamleadbeatter5981]

@@elgransenor1472 She was unbeatable up to 6 furlongs. People argue that the great Frankel would have beaten her, and at 7 furlongs or longer I think they are right. but at 6 furlongs, I don't think so.

[@elgransenor1472]

Graham Leadbeatter I agree. It was never going to happen but it would have been great to see them race each other over 6.

[@The_Trojan]

@@elgransenor1472 Yep, BC is the best sprinter I've seen in my 50 years on the planet. Frankel was the best miler (possibly of all-time). Frankel wins at 1400, BC wins at 1200.

[@elizabethferguson7002]

Ten Best (race mares) EVER? Not even of this Century... Ruffian, Lady's Secret, Eight Belle's, Personal Ensign, Go For Wand, ... Oh never mind.

[@tjstrong3607]

I think this was the European list-- cept Zenyatta-- im with ya

[@russe19642]

@@tjstrong3607 no best worldwide,but probably last 20 years.His top 5 was right but I don't in order,black cavair unbeaten 26 starts including overseas

[@russe19642]

@Mauro Perdomo cant say i know them

[@elizabethferguson7002]

@@uscgrl484 Terlingua was an exceptional two year old. She was another speed monster that we'll never truly know how good she was. Even Wayne admitted he wished he had gotten her later in his career, he may have trained and campaigned her differently. Terlingua was a huge 2 year old. She only ran twice in 1978. Won both ...the Hollywood Juvenile and the DelMar Debutante. But she retired due to ankle injury and was not started as a 3 year old You are correct...no telling how good she really was.

[@MoniekRedhead]

@@russe19642 kincsem is still the record holder with 54/54... Black Caviar is #2 with 25/25...

[@kimgallagher490]

Seriously, what did Winx have to do to be number 1 ???? 33 wins in a row, a world record 25 group 1's, 4 cox plates and 3 Queen Elizabeth's. You cannot be serious putting her at number 2.

[@chriskessey773]

Not to mention 90% of the time she cruised to the lead with hardly any vigor from the jock, Enable was hard ridden every race. Winx wouldve cruised past Enable..

[@johnsonkevin1]

I cant believe she was at #2 either. Quite shocked she was in the top 5!!! Beating the same group 3 horses over and over again

[@jcsx6ep]

Where’s Rachel Alexandra?

[@Thelastgenuinearticle]

@Chris hughes Not hardly she had a tremendous career she should be around 5 or 6 on this list

[@truelyequestrian3583]

I think this list goes by money earned. Like winx is the winner of over 18 million United States dollars. Where Zenyatta is over 7 million along with black caviar who has almost 8 million. Now like I don’t know for sure how much ruffian won but I don’t think it that much. Rachel Alexandra for example only has 3 million.

[@51Saffron]

These are turf horses.

[@sheribrown3521]

@@51Saffron Zenyatta was mainly ran on dirt surfaces

[@lindarowell5573]

Loved watching! Would have loved to see Winx and Zenyatta race....both late closers.....what a heartstopper that would have been!!

[@WorldHorseRacing]

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[@equusfemina1]

Being closers was literally the only thing they had in common. Winx was basically a sprinter on grass and Zenyatta ran mostly 8 to 9 furlongs on dirt. They would’ve never met hun, even if they ran in the same country at the same time.

[@awuma]

@@equusfemina1 You have mixed up champion sprinter Black Caviar with the middle distance queen Winx (who was, just like Zenyatta, a miler with most races in the 8-10 furlong range). Dirt is almost unknown in Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

[@equusfemina1]

@awuma I never ever said Winx ran on dirt?? And I could never confuse the two great champions, Black Caviar was a clear sprinter. Winx was mostly middle distance, you’re right about that so I stand corrected...but if I recall correctly some of her earlier races were sprints. So I maintain my assertion that compared to Zenyatta she ran shorter distances as an average. Forgive me, please, it’s tricky to convert meters to furlongs and that’s mostly how we measure our races here in America.

[@russe19642]

Arent zenyatta and winx from same bloodlines?edit,sire streetcry

[@keithbraggs2154]

No Treve? No Rachel Alexandera? No Winning Colors?

[@greyhairedphantom4038]

The Diva (Makybe Diva) is my best. any horse to win one Melbourne Cup once is a champion but the girl won three of them in a row

[@johnsonkevin1]

Its a staying handicap

[@robcreighton1135]

@@johnsonkevin1 ...and in her third win, she carried topweight. Your point is...?

[@johnsonkevin1]

@@robcreighton1135 it's a handicap

[@MoniekRedhead]

@@robcreighton1135 and what was her HG and what was her topweight? And what were the HG's and the weights for her competitors?

[@bgardiner3354]

@@MoniekRedhead HG's? MD carried equal top weight of 9s 2lbs, as did dual Irish St Leger winner Vinnie Roe. The 2005 running of the Melbourne Cup was the 144th running of the race and she set a distaff weight carriying record. But weight in and of itself is meaningless. But its worthy to note that she carried 1kg over weight for age over 2 miles, an extremely rare feat for any horse. On that basis she deserves to be higher on this list.

[@lilbullet158]

It's got to be WINX for me. She's a Legend.

[@timyatcak3292]

Gallorette, Busher, Miesque, Personal Ensign, Ta Wee, Makybe Diva, Trêve, Goldikova, Azeri, Mom's Command, Princess Rooney, Maskette, Bayakoa, Go For Wand, La Prevoyante, All Along, Dahlia, Fashion, Bewtich, RUFFIAN, Shuvee, Cicada, and Imp, are just a few that should be considered as well.

[@diggermcginty870]

Makybe Diva is number 9

[@kelsowins]

Thank you. An excellent list. I especially appreciate the often-forgotten Busher.

[@uscgrl484]

You forgot TERLINGUA- she beat the Legend FLYING PASTOR in 1978 I believe it was.....TERLINGUA put D. WAYNE LUCAS on the map.....

[@incensejunkie7516]

Add Dance Smartly to the list

[@marcusdavidson5776]

Zarkava should be on this list cause she has beaten Goldikova twice in group 1 races, and she retired undefeated after winning the Arc

[@tonymcgrath700]

Absolutely right about Zarkava being better than Goldikova, the Breeders cup made Goldikova a legend over there but not in Europe where there were one or two better than her

[@equusfemina1]

This is hardly the 10 best EVER. Come on now. Certainly 10 GREAT mares...but there are too many true GREATS left out. Sorry.

[@truelyequestrian3583]

I think this list goes by money earned. Like winx is the winner of over 18 million United States dollars. Where Zenyatta is over 7 million along with black caviar who has almost 8 million. Now like I don’t know for sure how much ruffian won but I don’t think it that much. Rachel Alexandra for example only has 3 million.

[@jeffmejia3556]

If you re a track goer I understand you a 100 percent. There is no true champ in horse racing. Even the almighty Secretariat was defeated not once but twice after his historic Triple Crown achievement. And he lost to mediocre horses. There are great horses that have run in different eras of Thoroughbred horse racing and no one can truly say one could’ve beaten all. If you’ve been a rail bird you know one thing for sure. There is no sure thing in horse racing.

[@johnwalsh3215]

Ruffian!!! There is no list without her!

[@a.g.6834]

Thanks to all the people that work every Day with those horses!

[@secretariatgirl4249]

WINX, DIva, Black Caviar, Zenny for sure...Beholder...of all of the in the video...I would say that WINX has been the most exciting in her sprinting finishes and for the LONGEST CAREER OF ALL!!

[@Wo0dSyy]

Black Caviar was the most dominant world champion mare of them all, 25 from 25 wins... she won year in and year out however plagued with injuries throughout her career that held her back from competing over the mile what a shame..won in Ascot on three legs beating French horse of the year in Moonlight Cloud... it took her 8 months to recover back home she would have been scratched however the pressure to run her was greater .she had a rating of 136 but no doubt in my mind she could have ran 140 plus if she wanted to..carried 20lb more than the Golden slipper winner in the Newmarket beating her with ease in a near world record over the 1200m the greatest sprinter of all time, I'm not sure any other mare in this top ten would rate best ever in the world at their pet distance as like Black Caviar would.

[@MoniekRedhead]

Kincsem is the record holder with 54 undefeated races. Black Caviar is second on the list with 'just' 25...

[@marknorris1381]

UK based assessment I'd say. They'll always put their horses on top. Same probably goes for lists compiled in other countries, they favour their horses.

[@MoniekRedhead]

@@marknorris1381 Kincsem was from Hungary not from England. The list is from Germany. So don't be so sceptical.... There's even a movie about her.... Oh and I'm Dutch... So...

[@marknorris1381]

@@MoniekRedhead I'm skeptical about most lists and hometown bias - including ones compiled from where I come from. And what I said above wasn't directed at your comment, it was directed to WoOdSyy. Anyone who does their homework on racing and it's history knows that Kincsem is very highly regarded.

[@MoniekRedhead]

@@marknorris1381 that's true indeed. I have noticed that particular American ppl only rate American horses as the best ever. They don't even know horses from Australia, Europe, Canada etcetera... Or they just don't want to know them, I don't know... If you make a list of the best race horses in the world you should also use the best race horses in the whole world, not just America... That's why I often react about Secretariat being the best ever. Just because he did won the triple crown and won with 30 lengths doesn't make him the best ever. It does make him a great race horse but definitely not the best ever... Imo...

[@omarothman9662]

Winx is a legend,mate !!! C'mon aussie, c'mon..c'mon 🤗🤗🤗

[@philiskirk57]

Winx only raced on flat level courses no uphill finishes overrated

[@johnwalsh3215]

Winx for sure along with her half sister Zenyatta but Ruffian has to be on this list she’s one of the top 10 horses of all time so how can this list not have her on it ???

[@JACKDAWFISH]

Go for Wand and Winning Colors were top notch. Maybe to top 10's for each continent.

[@leaprimm6203]

Where is Ruffian?

[@jeraldhawkins7939]

she is no 2 only behind zenyatta

[@truelyequestrian3583]

​@@jeraldhawkins7939 I think this list goes by money earned. Like winx is the winner of over 18 million United States dollars. Where Zenyatta is over 7 million along with black caviar who has almost 8 million. Now like I don’t know for sure how much ruffian won but I don’t think it that much. Rachel Alexandra for example only has 3 million. Fun fact winx is Zenyatta’s sister. If you go and look at her races she freakishly like her in running style

[@supersaiyanjin2199]

the great thing about enable is that she has raced in all grounds, 4 different countries and can handle 1m2f to 1m4f...her versatility makes her the most decorative mare in history in my opinion

[@alanmcdonald4423]

10 to 12 furlongs is hardly showing "versatility".

[@elgransenor1472]

Winx is like the athlete or swimmer who wins multiple Commonwealth Games gold medals in record time but never wins an Olympic medal. Enable is like the swimmer or athlete who doesn't hold any world records but has 5 Olympic golds and 1 silver. That's why she's number one.

[@bgardiner3354]

Alan McDonald European racing is different than in Australia. Had Enable raced in Australia she’d have had a far greater distance range and amassed many more wins. Still did not demonstrate enough pace to be able to compete with Winx up to 10F.

[@elgransenor1472]

B Gardiner If Enable had raced in Australia there would have only been one suitable race to target as an older filly/mare, the BMW Tancred. She would have been weighted out of the Cups after winning multiple Oaks and probably the Aust Derby.

[@bgardiner3354]

El Gran Senor with an Antipodeon preparation under her belt I think that even at a mile she would have dominated in Australia, Winx aside. And she would have been entered in those as lead up races. She was solid over 10F So races like the Cox Plate and the Queen Elizabeth would have been at her mercy... again, Winx aside.

[@lachlansmith2362]

WINX is a true kind specialist because in her last ever race she won her 3rd Queens Elizabeth stakes and she has 33 wins in a row and she won the coxplate 4x in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018

[@mauroporto3738]

Rachel Alexandra off the Top 10????

[@truelyequestrian3583]

I think this list goes by money earned. Like winx is the winner of over 18 million United States dollars. Where Zenyatta is over 7 million along with black caviar who has almost 8 million. Now like I don’t know for sure how much ruffian won but I don’t think it that much. Rachel Alexandra for example only has 3 million.

[@spaz5138]

Definitely wins I'm her biggest fan thanks for the vid and adding my favourite horse

[@alperhantugberk1699]

Gowinx ❤️❤️

[@josephweil3923]

No Rachel Alexandra no go!

[@bigr6298]

Oh, anothee great dirt horse left out

[@rodneycolbert3665]

Rachel Alexandra was a great Mare. But this rating she wouldn't be in top 10. May top 25. And Enable raced on 6 continents which puts her number one. Winx should be Numero Uno

[@josephweil3923]

@@rodneycolbert3665 This is your opinion which I'm okay with but disagree! Top 2 though are right!!

[@rodneycolbert3665]

@@josephweil3923 I agree top 2 is right. Even in the order. While Winx hold records but never outside of home. Now Rachel Alexandra in States would be top 5.

[@truelyequestrian3583]

I think this list goes by money earned. Like winx is the winner of over 18 million United States dollars. Where Zenyatta is over 7 million along with black caviar who has almost 8 million. Now like I don’t know for sure how much ruffian won but I don’t think it that much. Rachel Alexandra for example only has 3 million.

[@kanevparise]

Winx should be number 1.... no one alive today we ever see anything like her again...🐎🐎🐎

[@leedoyle1510]

Keep in Mind that Makybe Diva won 3 melbourne cups in a row. Each race had 24 horses. Many of the others mainly raced in fields of less than half that. She also won at a massive range of distances and both handicap and weight for age (Reminiscent of the great Phar Lap). Simply incredible and deserved to be higher up on this list of greats. I loved Black Caviar but she only raced weight for age and only short distances.

[@oot007]

The Melbourne Cup is a handicap, a race for the punters rather than for thoroughbreds. Makybe Diva won her first Melbourne Cup as a lightweight and was lightly weighted by the handicapper on her second and third wins. Makybe Diva only won at WFA when the great horses of that era, Sunline and Northerly, retired. Lonhro who was a top class horse but not in the same league as Sunline and Northerly, yet he smashed Makybe Diva by 5 lengths in the 2004 Australian Cup despite being severely checked twice on the home straight and Makybe Diva had a clear run. Makybe Diva went to Japan and was easily defeated in two races there finishing 7th on both occasions. Put Makybe Diva against world class opposition and she does not measure up.

[@WeirsBane]

Makybe was a great 2 miler, but she only became dominant at wfa in her last year (after some big-name retirements)

[@elgransenor1472]

How did she go when she raced in Japan?

[@flamingfrancis]

@@WeirsBane She won 15 races at distances between 1400m and 3200m carrying weights up to 59.5Kg. She had the two races in japan which were a few weeks after winning two races (2000 and 2400m) in two Oz cities. Also won at at least four Provincial tracks. Clearly did not take to the travel of 8 hours plus on aircraft.

[@lxmxly_0665]

and Rachel Alexandra?

[@sophiadubai7702]

She is not the only one who had run to multiple continent, The one and only GOLDIKOVA did as well and won

[@supersolo6]

Beat nobody? Seriously? She beat the Derby winner, Belmont winner, won the Preakness, almost broke the Haskell record (with a 116 Beyer!), AND won the Woodward. THREE wins over the boys. Broke Ruffian's Mother Goose record, turned the Kentucky Oaks into a joke. But sure, she didn't do anything. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@francoarrua011]

@Chris hughes you are really ignorant

[@jeremyjones6651]

WINX is the champion of champions, never have I seen a horse like her before. I first noticed her before she became a champion in a Saturday race, she was back in a bunching field and all of a sudden she leapt in the air as if trying to jump over the others, I had never seen that before and I was just shocked. I cant remember if she won, but from then on I had my eye on her

[@mitchellbaker9434]

a lot of her races towards the end the trainer of Winx would have 60% of the field in his barn. They sure weren't beating her.

[@flamingfrancis]

@@mitchellbaker9434 With the millions in prize money on offer, the trainer would not be in business very long if he had jocks pull other mounts to allow Winx to win now would he. Owners would soon lose him. Give a Chamion her due recognition.

[@lachlansmith2362]

I love WINX i went wild when she won her final race in 2018 but Winx will make a return to racing at this year's coxplate

[@lee-annemcauliffe2791]

sunline from new zealand should have been amongst these

[@sekefzzz5593]

Lee-Anne McAuliffe exactly!

[@tinkler4]

Yep Sunline deserves to be in the top 10, she went to Dubai and raced against the best in the world and placed 3rd. Also won the Hong Kong Mile.

[@GreyAlien11]

keith gould Makybe Diva?? best staying-mare ever, Black caviar - best sprinting mare ever..... I think Australia 🇦🇺 is doing ok 👌

[@GreyAlien11]

That’s probably why japan and other countries Poach our animals.... nz and Au have it going on people x

[@GreyAlien11]

no filth down here... clean as a whisker 🖕😘🇦🇺

[@CastleMc]

Title of this video should be "My Favorite recent European race mares plus one American"

[@mickdonedee1]

Probably not a contender as her career is not as recent as those in the video, however, NZ mare Horlicks deserves a mention among these greats for her win in the 1989 Japan Cup in a world record time for 2400m. She won 6 G1s and defeated the likes of Bonecrusher, Super Impose and Vo Rogue over 2000m. Inducted into the NZ Hall of Fame. To top it off, she was the dam of the 2000 Melbourne Cup winner Brew (by Sir Tristram).

[@turnitup5167]

My top 5/6 countdown, # 5 ZarKava(7wins, 5 G1) = Black Cavier(25 wins, 15 G1) both undefeated. # 4 Makybe Diva (15 wins, 10 G1) 3 Melbourne Cups # 3 Enable (13 wins, 10 G1) # 2 Zenyatta (19 wins, 13 G1) # 1 Winx (37 wins, 25G1) incl 4 Cox plates

[@MoniekRedhead]

#1 Kincsem 54 starts undefeated And what about Ruffian?

[@owenbarry4535]

Winx is the best ever

[@turnitup5167]

Owen Barry I agree for Mares but overall Pharlap was the best!

[@turnitup5167]

Moniek Redhead yes you are right! I had never heard of Kincsem and her record is unbelievable so yes she was a true great mare and as for Ruffian I simply overlooked this great mare and yes again you are right both amazing horses.

[@nickeconomidis4294]

Winks should be no 1 by far

[@anotherblonde]

Jumping Mares: Dawn Run won the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham in 1984 and also the Cheltenham Gold Cup two years later. Annie Power, Flakey Dove.

[@fizbuk]

Quevega was brilliant.

[@ajmalshahansha1337]

Ooo

[@amansalhotra8329]

Winxx the greatest ever

[@elgransenor1472]

baldev raj Unfortunately she raced mostly against BM78 opposition.

[@malalala691]

Lol...you’re hilarious

[@WeirsBane]

big fish in a very very small pond

[@bushjustice6649]

These clowns watch one race and say she was second rate.....watch the lot...made stiff competition look second rate....small pond .....meh......

[@elgransenor1472]

John Jarvis I've watched them all. Who was that stiff competition? Egg Tart? Invictus Prince? Youngstar? D'Argento? Who Shot the Barman? Red Excitement? Trap for Fools? Horses like Happy Clapper, Humidor and Hartnell are second rate. She didn't need to make them look second rate, they are.

[@johnwalsh3215]

I don’t know how you couldn’t have Ruffian on this list ??? She’s one of the greatest horses of all time, she either met or set race or track records in 9 of her 10 races and she won her races by average 8 lengths ???

[@flamingfrancis]

They should ALL be locked in at #1. Good luck to the genius who can come up with a formula that differentiates between nations, track conditions and surfaces, climate, distance, weights etc.

[@lxmxly_0665]

Yes Enable is the Queen ❤👑💪

[@philomena4873]

No Trêve ? She is a legend racemare after her TWO Arc de Triomphe !

[@queenofshockable]

Ruffian?

[@Iainnick1]

queenofshockable landaluce

[@MoniekRedhead]

In race #9 with Makybe Diva... Who's the horse that finished 2nd? That one came fast, unbelievable wow

[@harrycurtain3354]

Maybe you could’ve made a case for Enable before she lost on the 6th of October, but now there is no doubt Winx is the greatest we have seen. Her record says it all

[@elgransenor1472]

Harry Curtain Her record of beating Humidor, Happy Clapper, Hartnell over and over again? And what, her multiple losses at 3 just don't count? We ignore them?

[@wgeary52]

Winx consistently beat Waller horses that weren't middle distance horses, they were stayers

[@elgransenor1472]

Winx was the biggest fish in a very small pond. She may have been a big fish in the big pond but you'll never know. You Aussies can guess what she might have done or rave about her sectionals but you're just dreaming and wishing. She never proved it.

[@russe19642]

@@elgransenor1472 never saw any of yours come take her on,i also query some of her competition,but after analyzing i still think she would have beaten most in the world.I know its hard to comprehend somethings better than you have but you need to.There was one fillie/mare that would have challenged her but went amiss,look up delucacy.She was a champion in the making.in the south australian derby the horse who came second went to hong kong and became a champion.look her up

[@elgransenor1472]

Russe Very impressive, I hadn't seen her before. I gather she was owned by the same person who has Arcadia Queen? I agree that from 2016 to 2017 Winx was the best horse in the world at 7-10f but I'm still not sure that puts her in the top ten of all time let alone the greatest of all time according to the original post here.

[@elgransenor1472]

Black Caviar has an EGS rating of 938 Winx has an EGS rating of 914 Enable has an EGS rating of 919 Zenyattas rating is 915 Makybe Diva 876

[@supersolo6]

Ruffian, Rachel Alexandra, Personal Ensign, Beholder, Lady's Secret.... those are names you can't ignore. Ruffian and Rachel would have DOGWALKED Zenyatta - she'd have far too much ground to make up on horses that were even faster through the stretch.

[@davidgriego8664]

That's why they ducked her not once but twice

[@davidgriego8664]

Faster through stretch Zenyatta has the fastest closing time Breeders Cup history. Lmao..

[@supersolo6]

Decent argument, but maybe a bit narrow. Zenyatta's performance in the 09 classic was awesome - and she did indeed close like a freight train. However - that's a once-in-a-lifetime stretch run. Even as a dead closer, that was a freak moment. Rachel's last 2f/stretch runs during her 3 yo season were all super fast - especially in KY Oaks, Haskell, and Mother Goose. And that was on top of her already sky high cruising speed. Definitely not a horse you spot 20 lengths and try to run down. She'd never give you the chance. As to the ducking...I don't even worry about when RA was 4. The BC was, to me, completely understandable. I hate synthetic, so I get that, and she had just run her eyeballs out against Macho Again and Bullsbaye, after being pushed by ANOTHER TC race winner (Da'tara) for the first 1/2. I don't consider that a duck. A duck would be more like Liam's Map running the dirt mile instead facing AP.

[@davidgriego8664]

@@supersolo6 Mike said Smith said he wouldn't give her 20 length he would give her 11 so your stories debunked

[@davidgriego8664]

She ran her eyeballs out of course she did!...Zenyatta in her life never had to run her eyeballs out and and still won 19 in a row so tell me exactly how to ever had to run her eyeballs out in all Races she would have destroyed every horse you could ever think of think about it

[@johnwalsh3215]

You have to have Ruffian, Winx, Zenyatta and Black Caviar on a best girls list, not necessarily in that order, that you can debate until hell freezes over, but to have this list without those 4 it’s a incomplete list! All 4 were unbelievable horses! The other 6 spots, there’s so many that you can make a case for to be on it but you have to leave some out, it just depends on what impresses you to fill it out

[@elgransenor1472]

Winx is like the athlete or swimmer who wins multiple Commonwealth Games gold medals in record time but never wins an Olympic medal. Enable is like the swimmer or athlete who doesn't hold any world records but has 5 Olympic golds and 1 silver. That's why Enable is number one on this list. In less than half the number of races Enable has multiple Olympic Golds and Winx has none.

[@GL-ys8je]

Zenyatta would of destryed both horses,

[@elgransenor1472]

Cabbage man Zenyatta would have beaten Enable over 12f at Epsom would she?

[@elgransenor1472]

Stop Go What exactly is "the Newmarket area"?

[@supertopher557]

Rachel Alexandra joined the group

[@nomiss7641]

Just a no at Enable over Winx. Winx and Black Caviar should be 1st and 2nd respectively with Zenyatta third. Enable is closer to Almond Eye levels and I'd be tempted I I don't know a lot about horses before 2000 so I'll leave them out but IMO, my top 7 would be 1: Winx 2: Black Caviar 3: Zenyatta 4: Lys Gracieux 5: Makybe Diva 6: Enable 7: Almond Eye

[@sharkeyCFC]

Where is Treve?

[@tonymcgrath700]

Black Caviar deserves number 1 spot with Minding number 2 . Zarkava - Pebbles - Ruffian - Dahlia - Tryptych - Allez France - Humble Duty, shall I go on?

[@boristheblade2255]

yes carry on😐😐😐

[@alanfinn1096]

Pebbles, Allez France, Dahlia,Oh So Sharp should all be contenders.

[@king_zenx3997]

Am only here for Zenyatta lol🙃💯

[@rpram1]

pretty polly the english triple crown winner is generally considered the best british mare of all time and is rated more highly than enable by racing historians

[@elimcinnes706]

SUNLINE you slept on that Mare

[@adamgarvey5074]

I have seen Winx win from positions that were impossible , while Black Caviars raving style and pattern where she would settle better than mid field then pour the pressure on and then simply lengthen stride made her simply unbeatable remember the trainer said if the royal ascot race was in Australia she would have been scratched as she had a high grade muscle tear remember Moonlight Cloud went on to absolutely dominate euro sprinting and became euro sprinter of the year

[@elgransenor1472]

ag fresh Moonlight Cloud went on to absolutely dominate European sprinting? Did she? To the best of my memory her greatest performances were over 1300-1600m in France. Not sure she ever won a Group One race at 1000 or 1200m. She was actually probably a 1400-1600m horse who was also just fast enough to be effective over1300 and a very testing 1200 but she was hardly a dedicated specialist sprinter.

[@adamgarvey5074]

El Gran - Moonlight Cloud ‘Champion Sprinter Europe 2012’

[@elgransenor1472]

ag fresh Yeah but she's hardy a "true" sprinter is she? She never won a Group One over 5 or 6f. That award was for performances over 1300-1400. She didn't dominate European sprinting because she didn't even run in the biggest 5/6f sprint races. You'd call her a sprinter-miler in Australia.

[@ferdinandbacani525]

I am a fan of winx from the philippines.

[@manoaramanonaka9522]

Where is Trêve ????

[@Gh0sT_0uT.]

Zenyatta is the best in my opinion.

[@Ellemerob]

Best mare ever = Dawn Run. Can't see any horse repeat what she achieved.

[@perunsvetovid7179]

WINX , WINX , WINX , WINX , WINX , She won 33 consecutive races including 25 group 1s , a world record !!! No Ruffian ???

[@MoniekRedhead]

Get your facts right. Kincsem is the world record holder with 54 wins out of 54 starts. Second on that list is Black Caviar with 25 wins out of 25 starts. Winx isn't unbeaten 😉

[@glenlynch1]

I'm surprised with this channel's decision of their "top ten..." That they are capable of even counting to ten (10)

[@keenice5271]

Black caviar unbeaten

[@BISH9484]

Yep!! I would have put her as nmbr1...

[@elgransenor1472]

First time I've ever agreed with you.

[@BISH9484]

@@elgransenor1472 😂😂😂

[@oot007]

She only raced between 1000 to 1400m. The richest, most prestigious races in the world (Arc, Japan Cup, King George, Breeders Cup etc) are at the classic distance of 2400m.

[@BISH9484]

@@oot007 okay OTT!!

[@NiesQue]

Makybe Diva shouldn't be in here, incredible horse yes but Sunline was far superior. Whilst many horses are missing, Miesque (UK/USA) definitely deserved to be here AND then became a champion broodmare. Enable over Winx I agree with and I'm an Aussie

[@coopsthommo5507]

NiesQue what are u on about 3 Melbourne cups in a row against the best stayers in the world, that will never ever happen again.

[@NiesQue]

@@coopsthommo5507 I agree that it won't be replicated and she was brilliant but I don't believe the MC generates nearly the quality of horses most people believe. The reality is that few recent Melbourne Cup winning horses, if any, show any real racing aptitude prior to/or post their MC win. Particularly across multiple racing years and so no, I won't make the case that the best horses always line up for it. It wasn't until her 7th year (third MC) that she became the dominant horse in Australia. Prior to that, she was consistently beaten in WFA and middle distance races. You could make the case she could be in this list for sure, but not ahead of Sunline who was dominant for years/carnivals and won in multiple countries.

[@oot007]

@@coopsthommo5507 The Melbourne Cup is a handicap, a race for the punters rather than for thoroughbreds. Makybe Diva won her first Melbourne Cup as a lightweight and was lightly weighted by the handicapper on her second and third wins. Makybe Diva only won at WFA when the great horses of her era, Sunline and Northerly, retired. Lonhro who was a top class horse but not in the same league as Sunline and Northerly, yet he smashed Makybe Diva by 5 lengths in the 2004 Australian Cup despite being severely checked twice on the home straight and Makybe Diva had a clear run. Makybe Diva went to Japan and was easily defeated in two races there finishing 7th on both occasions. Put Makybe Diva against world class opposition and she does not measure up. Sunline however was a genuine WFA champion, 2 times Cox Plate Winner, Doncaster Handicap and won G1 in 3 countries including a world class field in the Hong Kong Mile where she defeated multi G1 winner and horse of the year Fairy King Prawn.

[@NiesQue]

@@oot007 I second this but I do consider Lonhro the equal of both Sunline and Northerly. Record aside in terms of big race wins, his raw talent was there

[@oot007]

@@NiesQue Lonhro had the talent and acceleration but had trouble with Mooney Valley and wet tracks.

[@JACKDAWFISH]

Ruffian would be my No.1 and clearly Rachel Alexandra is top 3. I know that there is a rivalry between North American vs European vs "the rest of the world" but these 2 American horses should not be overlooked. I love Enable but Zenyatta is 1 or 2 all time no doubt. On the boys side Franklel was impressive but his times were never great unlike Secretariat who was the greatest race horse of all time with his Belmont performance the greatest single horse race on the planet bar none.

[@Iainnick1]

Landaluce petite etiole dahlia oh so sharp triptych zenyatta black caviar enable Allen France for me

[@jenniferturton1269]

How’s Zenyatta not number one and black caviar not number 2? I’m not saying that winx and enable aren’t great I’m just wondering how Zenyatta is not number one and black caviar not number 2

[@alyssadoboczky2999]

And kincsem? She won 54/54 races......

[@anthonywalsh785]

some terrific horses there indeed, but i think if this video was done today, lys gracieux would feature very highly.

[@jeffwaite4206]

Forgot just a few GOAT-Ruffian Iron Lady -Lady’s Secret Canadian - Dance Smartly Personal Ensign /Rachel And you’re own All Along ???

[@jeffwaite4206]

This list is too biased and lack credibility...sorry

[@--zsofii-2872]

Ruffian? KINCSEM? 🇭🇺?

[@keithgould5063]

Almond Eye finally on the world stage ,this is a bigger test than her Dubai win but a clash with Exultant would have been the match up of the year.

[@elgransenor1472]

Keith Gould Exultant is just another version of Benbatl or Beauty Generation. A dominant performer in second tier racing jurisdictions. Dare I say it, much like Winx. She was just more dominant than them but the level of competition was not dissimilar.

[@keithgould5063]

El Gran Senor He beat Lys Graceaux with the arc winner 5lengths astern .

[@franckmartin9095]

What about Gentildonna ? Lool

[@elgransenor1472]

Keith Gould I think you put too much stock in this Hong Kong and Dubai form. Granted, it's higher quality racing than Australia but the horses that perform there virtually never measure up the following season in Europe.

[@davidgriego8664]

It's evident none of those horses could beat Zenyatta

[@davidgriego8664]

@@underscore2824 love winx too!.... but you can't tell me Winx would have done what Zenyatta did in both breeders cups and if Zenyatta were a grass course she would have been much faster

[@captainenaad9579]

@@underscore2824 it depends on the ground, in Uk the is pretty heavy compared to sunny Australia

[@iansmith587]

She beat gio ponti for heavens sake, and a wall of others close up, winx would have beaten those horses by 5 lengths or more.

[@whippimom]

Well, if you had just titled this video, “my subjective list of who I think are the top 10 best ever mares in horse racing” then I could deal with it but since you put the best in horse racing ever, uhhhhhmm no. Any list that claims to be the top 10 best mares should have these ladies, yet you only have queen Z: Ruffian Azeri Goldikova Rachel Alexandra Personal Ensign Winning Colors Genuine Risk I could add more that don’t include the mares you think are the greatest but I know that’s how subjective things work.

[@MoniekRedhead]

Please don't forget the #1 record holder for most unbeaten races. The mare Kincsem, 54 wins out of 54 starts. #2 on that list is Black Caviar with 'just' 25 out of 25 😇

[@sophiadubai7702]

For me is the one and only The queen of breeder's cup mile The French queen GOLDIKOVA

[@jacquibowler6221]

Never saw her win 33 in a row like winx 25 group 1's

[@birdman7864]

Ruffian would have left them all 8 lengths back

[@kepnjem]

None of the above compare to Dawn Run! She is the only horse (never mind mare) to win the Cheltenham Champion Hurdle (1984) and Cheltenham Gold Cup (1986) double. She had guts! Her Gold Cup victory was the best finish I've ever seen. She was only 15.2hh. Her statue now proudly stands in Cheltenham racecourse.

[@athanasssiosangelopoulos1287]

Personal ensign was undefeated and won the breeders cup and she raced everywhere not just California like zenyatta!!!!!

[@newdistbear]

Winx won 36 races in a row. Dont care what horse you choose, just cant top that. I find it strange that both #2 Winx and #3 Zenyatta both have the same sire, Street Cry, who also sired Street Sense, a Kentucky Derby winner and Shocking, a Melbourne Cup winner. Zenyatta won her first 19 races, lost her 20th and last race, by a nose, in the Breeders Cup, which she won the previous year before. I have to admit, I am not too familiar with Enable, I just cant see her being greater than Winx.

[@elgransenor1472]

Butch McGrath Winx spent most of her career beating BM78 opponents. Shouldn't even be in the top ten really.

[@regenesantos5729]

@@elgransenor1472 She won 25 Group 1's which is not BM78 level. I'm sure your upset that she never raced outside of Australia but where were all the challengers from the North to face her? Prize money is huge in Australia so maybe there were a few trainers up north who thought it would have been a waste of time and money challenging her. Have a look at some of her sectional times. No BM 78 horse would come near it. She just made good horses look slow. Ask Ryan Moore what he thinks of Winx.

[@elgransenor1472]

Regene Santos Ha ha She ran those sectionals because the first half of the races were run so slowly by the BM78 horses who set a slow pace and still stopped at the 150. She made slow horses look slow mate. You're right, no Bm78 could come near it, they didn't.

[@regenesantos5729]

@@elgransenor1472 hahaha Well your most leading jockey Ryan Moore had this to say. I think he is better judge than you or me. He's seen the best all over the world. “She doesn’t need to be compared to anything else,” Moore said. “She’s a very special racehorse. “To get a horse to run 28, 29 times is quite an achievement but to win that many in a row, against the best around is something else. “She’s a champion. She stays, she has speed, she’s world class. “I’ve got to hand it to Chris (Waller) and Hugh (Bowman), they’ve handled her beautifully. “To keep her doing that job for so long and getting it so right every time is a testament to them.” No more to say....enjoy your day.

[@elgransenor1472]

Regene Santos None of that changes the fact she beat dead wood 98% of the time. I actually think I am a better judge than him unless when he says the best around he means Australian BM78 plodders.

[@lukekelly4482]

Treve?

[@thekiid8463]

How about Treve

[@mikecallagher8195]

As always, I love the north-south banter. The top 5 look pretty much spot on. There'll never be a winner in the Winx-Enable argument - both totally dominant in their preferred distance ranges. A few unconvincing choices in 6-10. If Enable is already No1, then Treve deserves a spot in the top 10, and as a Kiwi, Sunline at her best would be deserving of the 10th spot. Like Winx, competing nearly always against all-comers and not scared of handicaps. I perhaps have some southern bias, as I believe Makybe Diva deserves a spot. Yes, perhaps leniently treated by the handicapper, but very few mares win the Melbourne Cup, and 3 wins is no mean feat.

[@Simplecracker3]

@keith gould Didn't sunline go to Hong Kong too? If so that makes her record even better

[@elgransenor1472]

The problem with you colonials asserting that your horses should be top ten or top five of anything is that it never really gets backed up on the track when your horses do compete on the world stage. Yes you've had international successes but none of your horses have travelled overseas and dominated. They've proven they are competitive and can win races but hardly proven they are the top five or ten of all time! It's not like they win five or six in a row by four lengths which is what you'd expect from one of the best of all time. Sunline was beaten more than once. So YounThink was beaten. Choisir was beaten. Black Caviar won by a nose and a nose. Takeover Target lost as often as he won. Chatauqua won but not any more easily than he won races in Australia. Haradasun and Starcraft both lost races as well as winning one. All good horses but their international performances hardly demonstrate that Aussie horses deserve a place in the top ten of all time.

[@mikecallagher8195]

@@elgransenor1472 Lots of points that could be argued here, but this post is about mares, and even here your basic premise falls short. Black Caviar was never beaten - the only one on the list. Sunline won plenty in a row (nearly always against all-comers and not just mares) and had a better record than Goldikova, Ouija Board and Lady Aurelia. Let's face it, even Enable was proven fallible in the wrong conditions, so its extremely rare horses don't get beaten from time-to-time. Also saw your comment on Winx on another stream, and I'd agree that this spring makes those she beat look pretty average, but the horses that won those big WFA races this year have some useful international form. Anyway, good banter. I'm happy to be open minded enough to appreciate great horses.....wherever they're from....

[@elgransenor1472]

keith gould Yes the BC turf races were very ordinary IMO. The BC Turf winner, Bricks and Mortar is obviously good but didn't beat much. BG will definitely be at his best this time but I think the Japanese horse will still beat him. AE is a gun, she's 3 lengths better than anything she'll be up against in that race. The only way she loses is if she doesn't cope with the unfamiliar environment.

[@elgransenor1472]

keith gould When is the HK meeting?

[@al1979rocker]

Hands down, Black Caviar was a lot better than Winx. It's much harder to dominate shorter races. Her win in the Newmarket Handicap (Australia's best sprint handicap) where she carried a record weight and broke the 140 odd year race record while going about three quarter pace was insane. The manner in which Black Caviar won races over 1000m-1200m was astounding. She only raced once over 1400m and dominated there as well. She backed up a week later over 1000m, and won easily again. Any trainer will tell you that is near impossible for a horse to win over 1400m and then over 1000m seven days later. She did it at Group 1 level with ease. Winx never really faced any good opposition. That's a major knock on her. She dominated a very poor patch of Australian middle distance racing. Likewise, Black Caviar also didn't face tough opposition, but at least some of the horses she consistently beat were champions, such as Hay List. Also, the fact that she went 25-0 should add weight to the legend. Winx was a handy 3yo, but was clearly not as good as First Seal who beat it in the good three year old fillies races in Sydney consistently.

[@elgransenor1472]

Allan T You sir, are a very perceptive man.

[@al1979rocker]

@@elgransenor1472 Thanks!!

[@jarrodtroy695]

Tell me how many Cox Plates did Black Caviar win? You stooge....😂

[@al1979rocker]

@@jarrodtroy695 Other than rehash a light hearted insult form the 90's and prove you know nothing about the sport, what else were you hoping to achieve with this silly reply?

[@jarrodtroy695]

@@al1979rocker You said "Hands down Black Caviar is better than Winx" ...... maybe at the sprint distances 1000m-1200m..... but Winx would annihilate Black Caviar had she raced 1600m-2000m against her. All im saying is Winxs credentials are far superior with the races she has won as to compared to Black Caviar. Black Caviar is the greatest sprinter us Australians have seen since Vain, but Winx clearly sits on top of the podium as the Queen of the turf. 4 Cox Plates..... 4 Queen Elizabeths...... plus the rest. So you know all about racing now aye wise guy

[@johnwilkinson8265]

Best horse male or female in my life time FRANKEL.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@patrickduncanjr.6847]

7:11 the women going crazy. She won her $2 win bet lol

[@markhancock7527]

Unban sea won the arc mother to two Derby winners ? Pebbles? Balachine won the oaks in the heavy rain,but enable is the best.

[@philiskirk57]

Aussie racing is inferior to europe we have won the melbourne cup on numerous occasions but they have never won the derby or the arc

[@Ned-e9o]

Your turf sprinters when compared to Australia's since 2003?

[@smpsmp6974]

Sunline??

[@川島陽介]

Treve,Zarkava,Rachel Alexandra,Found...

[@daeuri]

Beside the other mares mentioned in the comments, what about Ruffian, Pebbles, Inside Information, Zarkava?

[@johnallen470]

Can someone with good breeding books check on this. I read way back that the American sire DISCOVERY circa 1935 is the only horse in the DAM LINE of every champion since then. Most of the champs have NORTHERN DANCER in their pedigree 1968 circa since then. Clever and intelligent breeding seems to the go these days. Any suggestions? Just asking courteously.

[@elgransenor1472]

So the best 10 mares ever all raced in the past 15 years?

[@WorldHorseRacing]

These are suggestions - by no means definitive! Who would make your top 10..?

[@elgransenor1472]

World Horse Racing All good horses but the title probably needs changing to "of the 21st century". Pebbles is the obvious omission for me. Treve, Miesque, Allez France, Petite Etoile. A couple before my time but acknowledged as some of the greatest.

[@WorldHorseRacing]

@@elgransenor1472 Great choices - these lists are always open to debate. Sounds like we need to make the sequel! Thanks for your input.

[@russe19642]

The answer may lead to that conclusion because colts and stallions are generally sent to stud over risking injury or death as they're worth more money not racing leaving just the high ranking fillies snd mares with no competition.Example would be australian horse So you think who was sold for $60 million after second cox place win and only ran in a couple more races in europe.He could have kept racing but why risk him when the stud value far out wieghs any prize money.

[@russe19642]

@keith gould they flogged ol strawbs to death around the world by different owners.Was a real warhorse and probably should have been in the list purely for the amount of traveling it did

[@patg9754]

I think the eye test says Winx #1. That acceleration is unmatched.

[@elgransenor1472]

Pat G Yeah but Wonx spent 90% of her career beating BM78 horses. Sort of detracted from her legacy a bit.

[@JACKDAWFISH]

Hello? Ruffian was essentially the female Secratariat but unfortuately broke down in a match race vs. Foolish Pleasure (Kentucky Derby winner) Ruffian had won her 10 races prior by wide margins. I suggest you check the times vs. Winx and you'll get your eyes opened. She race in the mid 1970's so a lot of people don't know about her, yeah her acceleration more than matche Winx.

[@valcye]

@@elgransenor1472 Other trainers with top horses avoided her, says it all really. She deserves her champion status.

[@elgransenor1472]

valcye Really? Who were they? Happy Clapper and Hartnell? Or do you mean The Autumn Sun trained by Chris Waller? I agree she is a champion and deserves that status, but she doesn't deserve the No 1 place on this list.

[@jarrodtroy695]

@@elgransenor1472 She beat a Breeders Cup Turf Champion who also had a run in the Arc. Yeah your right BM78 level

[@brightonscene]

No Taghrooda, Treve or Zarkava. Whoever made up this "all time greats" list is clueless.

[@indiablackwell]

Whats about Zarkava?

[@norazmankhali6294]

champion👍

[@WeirsBane]

Zenyatta probably the most overrated horse of all time. Only raced out of mares class TWICE, one of which she was beaten in. Doesn't deserve to be in this conversation.

[@bgardiner3354]

It’s a real shame that she was so protected. I have no doubt that she was a great horse... but I suspect she would have been beaten many more times had she raced in open company throughout her 5-7 racing years

[@elgransenor1472]

Here's an interesting comparison Enable vs Winx. Across 2018/2019 Winx ran 11 times in 10 Group one races. The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 115-123. Four times there was not a 120 rated horse in the race. Only once in those 11 races were there 2 X 120 rated opponents in the same race. Across 2018/2019 Enable ran 7 times in 6 Group Ones. The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 122-128. Enable never ran in a race without a 122 rated horse in it. Four of those seven times there were 2 or more opponents rated 122+ I'm not saying Enable is better than Winx. I think Winx is the better horse overall. But Enable certainly raced harder opponents and more of them more often. It's impossible to know whether Enable would have handled Moonee Valley but I'm sure if Enable took Winxs place in the Turnbull and QE Stks in 2017/2018/2019 she would have clearly beaten Kluger, Youngstar, Gailo Chop and Ventura Storm over 2000 at Flemington and Randwick.

[@jeraldhawkins7939]

what about zenyatta she would have beaten any female horse in history by 10 lengths