Girl With Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) Kills Her Abuser

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[@agnieszkamiller3008]

Possession of child pornography is not a "character flaw", it's a criminal offence

[@gabbypowell7607]

No b

[@JosédomingoAyalaramos-m5f]

De aquí E

[@muslimahsharing4761]

Exactly!

[@SkAR-7777]

@@loucipher7782bruh that’s rough

[@brokenbear09737]

@@loucipher7782 that’s not fing funny to say

[@creepycrawlie]

hiding her dads keys so he wouldn’t leave so the neighbor wouldn’t hurt her brought me to instant tears

[@jenellenelson4447]

I couldn't handle that either.. Absolutely devastating. There's a lot kids hide from their parents, but that's only when the parents aren't... Parenting properly. I struggle with mental health but my son doesn't receive my own negative thoughts if that makes sense. I don't take my s**t out on him, whereas her parents absolutely did and MORE. I wonder if the dad's depression had anything to do with maybe knowing what was going on, but he didn't know how to deal with it. I'm not making excuses at all because even if that's the case, he's a bigger, MASSIVE pos. I guarantee her mom knew and didn't care. They let her move out too young because they didn't care anymore. You don't abandon your teenage child like that unless you're the problem. Rant over 😅

[@lianoid918]

That was truly devastating to hear. Hate to put it this way, but major plot twist. It makes so much sense. That was a brutal realization. So simple. So small. 😢

[@respectthefish4992]

this and her coming home naked at 4 and her family laughing it off how silly she is 💔 tbh I hate her mother

[@ireboren11]

Sooooo messed up. Agree

[@malachi2887]

That part messed me up I had to take a break from listening, it’s so sad😢

[@shawtygotlo1]

This girl not only rescued herself (bc clearly nobody else was going to), she rescued FUTURE VICTIMS. Her actions had a net positive result on the world.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

agreed

[@ameliab324]

And also the girl who did this had other people in her system that already held massive amounts of trauma whom she probably felt like she couldn't let suffer like this any more.

[@Nadeko]

@@DBKtoday2 i mean she did save those other girls...

[@icecreamsandwich652]

@@DBKtoday2of course, you men always love to make it about yourselves. U don’t care.

[@Soranobishes]

​@@icecreamsandwich652 You don't have to bring any gender here. If you have trauma or issues with specific gender please seek therapy rather than spreading hatred on the internet

[@mama-wh3dv]

"no one deserves a murder" - child abusers do. sexual abusers do. mental abusers do. Herald did.

[@yoojeebee]

exactly

[@najahosman9620]

I know thats right

[@Ashley_Mo]

Abusers kill a part of those they abuse, sometimes to the point it’s worse than death itself, to live with those emotional or physical scars. Call us psychopaths, but Herald didn’t deserve the life he basically took away from this girl.

[@mama-wh3dv]

@@Ashley_Mo exactly... sometimes death is not the worst,,, it's having to live with those scars :(

[@Ashley_Mo]

@@mama-wh3dv 100%. My heart breaks for this girl and all that have suffered such severe levels of abuse. Or abuse of any kind in general. I don’t think she’s a danger to society at this point and I hope by her parole hearing they give her a chance. She seems to be doing better and more stable mentally and if she has a good support system once released (maybe her sister or other friends and family we don’t know about) I really think she can have a have a good shot at living a fulfilling life and also helping other victims like she said she wanted to. I really hope she gets that chance.❤️

[@mahjabin-zm5fv]

She got 50 years in jail while the Junko Furuta monsters got 5-7 years....... Wow the justice system is really funny Isn't it

[@ynxiia]

Fr. Like?!???

[@missmorla1339]

@@ynxiia She is in the very Abrahamic bible belt of the American Midwest and the Junko monsters happened in Japan. The legal system on death is different, although similar in both is rapist and torturers are only slapped on the wrists and called naughty in both countries.

[@Pickledlimbs]

​@@missmorla1339 men n women are treated very differently even by the legal system no matter where they are

[@fragolata]

@@Pickledlimbsthis is so scary

[@MirandaBonneville]

@@Pickledlimbs yeah… imagine if it was a man with DID who killed a woman. It wouldn’t matter if the woman was sexually assaulting the man; he would most likely not get as severe a sentence simply because he was getting assaulted.

[@Your_local_Blink]

How did someone that literally SA-ed a kid multiple times only get 5 years with parole, but someone killing for self-defense, get 50 years in prison. Man, i sure do love the legal system.

[@loucipher7782]

because there is no self defense option lol court just threw the entire question on Harold character out so its not possible to proof self defense i dont know how is that even legal to begin with

[@diegochavez6203]

Because they have to protect pedos in jail but make money off other inmates

[@barbaragenshin9848]

​@@loucipher7782 ikr

[@JamilaJinx]

Probably because it was premeditated by her poisoning him and stabbing him if she did it in passion she probably would of got less time

[@gdubs1787]

the part that wasn’t allowed in court about those twin girls that harold was grooming….. shivers man. the system didn’t save them, sarah did.

[@autumntipton3670]

Agreed. I wish Sarah didn't have to resort to murder, and that she could live a normal happy life, but the system wasn't going to help Sarah or any of the other victims that man abused. They made it evident when they didn't want it mentioned that he was a pedophile and tried to portray him as a victim.

[@leafyten2253]

This comment

[@loucipher7782]

was wondering if the judge actually knew Harold and want to protect his image as a good Christian white man or they basically belong in the same club

[@sumivampireprincess]

I agree ​@@autumntipton3670

[@kirikakirikakirika]

My dad's friend used to be a guard at a women's prison. He told me that the majority of female convicts (at least where he worked) were victims of SA. Let that sink in.

[@emilycampbell5798]

💯

[@beastblood2five]

Just in case anyone is wondering. The change from Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) to Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) emphasizes the idea that it's not just about having multiple personalities, but about dissociation, a disconnect between thoughts, identity, consciousness, and memory.

[@ClownCoreWhore]

Just wanted to add that the name was changed bcus those with DID have ONE personality that has been fractured into multiple pieces. Like a glass bowl you dropped, each shard is it's own individual piece, but they originate from one whole. Dissociative identity disorder is a more accurate name to the experience.

[@Shyam16825]

Every one failed her 😢 Her parents failed her. The people she trusted failed her. The justice system failed her. She was a victim before becoming a killer.

[@sallyfield2895]

Thats how I felt too. If her parents looked even a little bit closer at their baby....

[@pinkclouds.98]

I felt so sad when her parents did NOTHING when she came back home with no clothes on. What parent thinks that's normal??? Everybody around her failed her tremendously

[@hopewood-g8m]

she wasn’t a killer in my eyes a rapist is no longer a person she just displaced a thing into a statistic

[@Shyam16825]

@@hopewood-g8m yep totally

[@m4tta]

this girl didn’t have a single chance in her life

[@freshlysqueezedpopsicle]

the amount of manipulation at play in the media and the portrayal of “kind business men” is disgusting. honestly? he got what was coming for him…

[@KaMQue-w8y]

I question why the judge want to evidence about the man

[@jakdelaney3606]

I went mental at " personally flaws'....Jesus....closest I've ever come to hearing my life out loud, without the ultimate escape.....poor child but it wont matter where she is now, she Is still free.....

[@Tatycharmz]

what no way they called him that, he is monstrous and a disgrace.

[@laurierice7687]

​@@jakdelaney3606❤

[@RadenWA]

Proving his abuse for a ground of self defense is way more important than whether she has DID or not. Shame on the court system for denying that.

[@miran289]

I cried when I found out the real reason she hid her father's key... I cried when I learned about the fact that her brain needed to make those alters to cope with all that trauma... and when she wrote the word freedom on the wall... and then when she got 50 years in prison... She's just a lost child how can the world be so cruel and how can one judge be so merciless!

[@nina19733]

Evidence that showed his character wasn't admissible in court because HE was not on trial???? Where is that consideration Every Single Time a woman accuses a man of s.a. and her character gets dragged through the mud to show 'she had it coming'?!?!

[@tamale4864]

exactly!!

[@ktgrnhig]

Or when someone kills an unarmed black person, suddenly the victim is the one on trial?

[@fortyshorty2459]

Exactly!!!!🎯💯

[@aprilbranson4744]

That part though 😭 😡!

[@scream_kinh614]

​@@ktgrnhig this is real as fuck, when George Floyd was killed everyone was talking about previous drug abuse as justification... Like what????

[@whiskitty]

I can't believe the courts wouldn't discuss a 50 year old man's behaviour around a 17 year old and WHAT led to this 🤦‍♀ they were clearly biased from the get go. Maybe they should check the judge's search history

[@petervansan1054]

so next time with SA victim are we going to discuss how she dressed? It's same argument

[@fwhuda7824]

@@petervansan1054what are you talking about

[@NormalUse-hd7wf]

​@@petervansan1054what you on to ?

[@petervansan1054]

@@fwhuda7824 its same argument

[@ohsnapitsemmie]

@@petervansan1054honestly get out from these comments. why are you bringing up victim blaming?

[@geniusdork1476]

The way the judge was... weirdly biased to the abuser, there's a chance the judge empathizes with his wrongdoings bc it reminds the judge of themselves. They need to be investigated tf..

[@4bbb711]

OBVIOUSLY A PREDATOR HIMSELF

[@doodahgurlie]

Yep. Or he's protecting people around him who are. That judge should really be looked into and removed from his position.

[@meozy4365]

The judge refusing to look at Harold's "character flaws" proves how much the justice system protects predators and punishes victims.

[@Fancyisland]

Fr. The judge should get his search history checked cuz he seems a little suspicious

[@Adam-326]

This case had more to do with the girl than with Harold.

[@janie2103]

@@Adam-326 Are you Harold??? You're replying to multiple comments defending him🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KonekoCat.]

​@@Adam-326 sus. Even if it is, stop defending predators and criminals, honestly there was no meaningful life lost, especially if it's someone who is a ped, no sympathy for monsters.

[@Adam-326]

@@KonekoCat. I’m not defending him. I’m just saying that he wasn’t the one on trial and that it would be worth keeping that in mind.

[@SparklerBlack]

"he tried to fix her" with fucking drugs??? its disgusting. its outrageous that they didint say what the "victim" did to her and not only to her. its fucked up.

[@SparklerBlack]

@@Flamsterette lol, no its not. im not a native english speaker and i dont intend to use stupid apostrophes because some pedantic asshole on the internet have a problem with it.

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@Flamsterette go away

[@Newjeansfan13]

Stfu and get out of here, its nott school ​@@Flamsterette

[@loucipher7782]

@@Flamsterette can you go out?

[@Flamsterette]

@@loucipher7782 Going out is overrated.

[@CHERYLee-s6r]

He was sick and mentally abusive. People don’t realize how much sexual abuse is a child rape as an adult and not having family members to rely on. She never had a chance to be a child. She never had a chance at all.

[@Sumayya-vb8jq]

Yes how can we blame her when she went through all that and never got help it makes me angry how she's continually demonised

[@zeldaxninja3214]

Yh i agree, it made her wanna kill ppl, wish she had a greater fam, my mother would care for her tbh

[@crestm1384]

He took advantage of her vulnerability. Used her for his own sick twisted desires. It's disgusting that the judge didn't allow the evidence of his deviant behavior. It points to what kind of environment she was in on a daily basis. Her environment influenced her mental state. The human mind will do things to protect itself and with the amount of trauma she suffered for years from multiple people just hit the breaking point. She needed to get the help she should have gotten long ago not just be put in jail. I'm glad that she's getting some help while in jail but I just hope that at sometime, hopefully soon, that she gets the help she truly needs.

[@charissa6648]

I had severe childhood abuse, neglect, then married an abuser, but I never skinned animals or stabbed someone to the point of decapitation. I also never received nose jobs, or plastic surgery from my abusers. She is evil and sick, just like her abuser. What he did was grotesque, but I don't follow purity culture. Where her whole like is over now because someone violated her. Like she is worthless, and its over. Her life is more valuable than that. But you seem to believe she was damned from the start. Which is so disturbing to me. Like women are only valued if they are pure, once spotted its over. Screw that! What happened to her was horrific, but she also had the mental capacity to walk out of his house. She had the opp to walk away. You will never convince me that she was being held hostage. And I know about brainwashing thats not what I am talking about. Both things can be true. She could be a victim and also evil. How dare you excuse this disgusting, inhumane and deplorable behavior because she was a victim. How offensive toward victims. There are millions of people who've suffered worse. I personally know ppl who make her childhood look like a trip to Disneyland, but they never used their trauma as an excuse to commit heinous crimes or skin helpless animals. People who were raped by their parents and passed around to older men. Gang raped...no. She could've not become a murder. I will never buy into the abusers narrative that the rest of my life has to carry the pain from what they did to me, and I have no choice about my future..the same lies abusers sat. NOPE. She is sick. She is evil and sicko who was at one point a helpless child victim.

[@louiseb6111]

Am I reading this 👆 wrong or is it just written wrong?! 🤷🏼‍♀️😬🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

I met a girl at the dr office she had a service dog and was very friendly talking about him so I asked what he was for out of curiosity. She said she had 8 people in her DID thats how she explained it. She said the dog is trained to let her know when it’s coming on and to guide her home or somewhere so she doesnt become lost. Some personalities of hers are young or old or just very confused when they come forward and get lost. It’s interesting I didnt know service dogs can help people with DID. She did say he was expensive about 20,000 to train.

[@rofinatheirin9929]

Oh god service dogs are SO freaking expensive…and DID is terrifying to live with..

[@resinartbycatherine6314]

That's a beautiful thing stop that an animal can be there to help her❤

[@koul3709]

Very sadly, it has come to my attention that it is not atypical for people to abuse their service animal, for example, when they are undergoing a psychotic episode. This makes me so SAD, seeing as I used to raise service animals myself. I think this is an industry that needs deep regulation. Dogs don’t deserve to be abused either 🥲

[@rofinatheirin9929]

@@Littlestaxolotl That’s incredibly relatable. Rest in peace to your fur baby/little helper 🥺

[@ande100]

That is actually cheap! Some service dogs run $50.000 - $75.000.

[@notjustanotherbrickinthewall]

50 years in jail for a victim is insane! She needs mental treatment not jail! I feel so bad for her. Murder is not the answer, let her do some time, but also get her mental treatment! Such injustice.

[@rbwblz]

EXACTLYY

[@jennip605]

How can she have the "right to a fair trial", when her Reason for committing her crime is inadmissible in Court?

[@TourettesMajestic]

Welp now I’m too depressed to finish this episode 😅

[@laurierice7687]

Terrible lawyer. Let her sign to never appeal? With the jury not seeing 1/2 the evidence? This case could have appealed on many levels. The whole situation is horribly sad.

[@maximum_bird]

It's so ridiculous to me that they didn't include the details of her motive.

[@rayvengoodman3120]

This Department of Justice is a joke. It's all a scam. You're not even innocent until proven guilty, especially if you're in a state like Oklahoma that has a "Jailbirds" newspaper where an innocent person will have their mugshot printed out and sent to the masses so that everyone can judge based upon appearance whether or not that person might be guilty. Let me get started on detainment before an investigation based on circumstantial "evidence".

[@jennip605]

@@maximum_bird such a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE "deal" for her

[@catalinaplaza7909]

Unpopular opinion, but how is killing in self defense, for people in a hopeless situation, punished so hard?

[@julireep278]

They weren't allowed to even present the case as self-defense! The JUDGE wouldn't allow anything to be said in court about the things he did to her 😡

[@eldupont3095]

legally, it's not considered self defense. self defense would need him to be coming at her threateningly, her to be in fear for her life, AND her having no other options. the law would say "she could have drugged him with the ambien and run away."

[@ah-sh9dw]

Because it wasn't self defense. She could've left without doing that. I don't think it should be murder but it isn't self defense

[@mikwolf2236]

@@ah-sh9dw and gone where? Done what? Bffr, if someone is constantly abusing you you're always acting under self defense

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@mikwolf2236 same place she went after k*lling him. Eldupont up there is right, he wasn't coming at her threateningly, because he was unconscious, and although she might've felt like it was her only choice, it wasn't. She literally could've done the exact same thing she did but without that one step. We probably should have laws that give severe abuse victims a pass but it's not really self defense

[@mysticloverfairy1]

It sounds like Harold’s family either has no idea what Harold was truly like or even worse they know ,but were in deep denial about it.

[@shainafullerton2433]

considering it became public knowledge, they're in denial

[@Tatycharmz]

exactly and his daughter even saying anything, lie girl dont embaress yourself i wouldnt even want tobe involvedin ANY way. second he did that to himself he chose to be sick and not to ever justify harming anyone this is self defense not some random attack, i hope his daughter learns that she didnt loose him just some idea or facade he may have had w certain people or family obvoiusly hes not a good person.

[@sharingyourexperiences5305]

Orrrrr - now hear me out - it’s a family affair

[@jenmiranda13]

Best case scenario they're in denial. Otherwise they're lying even though they're fully aware of everything that happened, might have even contributed to his behavior, and don't want to be held accountable

[@blueberrysmoothie]

Clearly in denial. I don't understand how Harold's daughter, who is close in age to Sarah, didn't find it creepy that Harold moved a girl into his home and was giving her money for a nose job and but implants... like wtf. Most normal ppl would agree that if their father did that, they'd be creeped out af and you'd find it SUPER weird + the rumors that there was a sexual relationship... I feel sick just thinking about this hypothetical.

[@Idontexist1111]

its so funny how actual predators who torture women get punishment for only 5 to 12 years but when a victim kills their predator they will sentenced them to 50 years

[@emilycampbell5798]

Shows you how many predators are in seats of power. Our world is f^cked

[@sherriv4860]

The harold guy was definitely a predator. Who gives a teenager drugs? He definitely SA'ed her, made her alter her body, and held a debt over her. What a bad experience to be in. I feel like life has failed Sarah and I am sorry for it.

[@loucipher7782]

she shouldnt even be alone living outside at that age how is she not living with her family or sister her elder sister seems to be doing fine smh...

[@maratwasnthere1075]

Honestly this...The way they glossed over how a 50 year old man who had this girl from the age of 17 living with him body modifications is so alarming.

[@boudicca272]

I absolutely love the childhood trauma "glass cup" analogy. I played it 3x. It is such an amazing analogy. It even explains so much more than just d.i.d. It explains a lot of disordered behavior that we experience in adulthood.

[@candiceannmichelle5021]

I have PTSD from my childhood and this helped me understand myself alot too As unless I'm in a flashback I can't remember my childhood

[@BaobhanloreArt]

The fact he knew her since she was underage and only waited until she was eighteen tells me he would have started younger if it was legal.

[@jordanstroop4269]

You're absolutely correct. My step father started 2 WEEKS after I turned 18. It started with the backrubs "to be helpful" (I severe back issues and back when it was innocent he was the only one that could do it right to relieve my pain.) He later told me that when i was younger that I used to make him hard and he'd be jealous when I had a boyfriend. As well as when I confronted him about what he was doing to me his response was "I thought you wanted it." Yeah okay. Keep thinking that bud. My mom is still married to him, knows what happened and blames me. 🙃🙃

[@jordanstroop4269]

Oh and I met him when I was 7..

[@analaurareyes7738]

@@jordanstroop4269disgusting 😰😤… what a horrible experience! I hope you feel ok right now!!

[@jordanstroop4269]

@@analaurareyes7738 I appreciate your words, thank you. And no I'm not okay but it is what it is. Life sucks and then you d*e. Haven't seen him or spoken to him since May 2017. My mom's contact picture for him in her phone is a picture of him and I when I was 16. She still tells him she loves him. I've seen the messages. She has her messages come to her computer and one time she was showing me something and a message popped up on her computer from him that said "I love you TOO". meaning she said it and he responded. She neglected us for another man that she's still with today and so f*xkface saw his opportunity and took it. And she blames me for it saying "you slept with him to hurt me" yep you've got it all figured out! 🙄🙄 but conveniently forgets the time she walked in on him with my pants pulled down while I'm barely awake instead of getting ready for work, not once but twice! In the same morning! The only thing she asked me was if I was his girlfriend... I WAS ASLEEP!! She denies that ever happening now. Okay. You got it. You've blamed me for everything my entire life including being born and what that did to you body so I guess I'll take the blame for this too. What's one more thing right? If you're still reading this, I'm sorry. Im sorry for the trauma dump, didn't mean to make this comment thread about me. Just wanted shed light on what the OP said, they're absolutely correct. Sorry..

[@jordanstroop4269]

@@analaurareyes7738 he blames me too and so because of that she believes him over me.

[@Belliqua]

Already listened to this on the podcast: for anyone worried, Stephanie covers DID and the victim with an immense amount of respect. Thanks for doing such a great job.

[@CaseyMarie11-11]

We're people worried? I guess I've just been here long enough now,to know that she always does 💜

[@LyricAndCompany]

​@CaseyMarie11-11 99% of the time DID is portrayed in media, it's a clusterfuck that plays into stereotypes, makes us seem crazy and dangerous, or has mountains of misinformation. Even a lot of the Spotify comments were talking about Split as though its a good resource for DID. I don't think of it as a slight against Steph to be worried, systems are just so often misrepresented that the distrust is warranted

[@crumpkit]

oh my god thank you,, i didn't think she'd do anything to disrespect us but im still a tad bit worried

[@tinyaxes]

Exactly my thoughts when I read the title on Spotify, I had to wait a few hours before diving in. Usually for her episodes I can literally dissociate and not be triggered but I was so worried DID would be demonized in this case. I do love when she used disclaimers for certain topics too and says something along the lines of "This is gonna be heavy so do some self care and I'll see you in the next one" bc it helps a ton.

[@InHoshiWeTrust]

Edit: I was corrected on this. Steph is using scare quotes, hope people know that’s what lots of people do in this context! For those who are mad at Steph for putting the word abuser in quotes, she legally has to. If he wasn’t convicted someone (next of kin or whoever close) could sue her for defamation.

[@sukizukiie]

Ohh thx so much I saw some comments being rude about it so she removed the quotes 🥲

[@ManiyaVinas]

Thanks to Johnny depp

[@Flamsterette]

@@sukizukiie Punctuation is a good idea here.

[@InHoshiWeTrust]

@@ManiyaVinas …..no this has always been a thing.

[@morph3301]

Ok but this is exactly what it is then? Its defamation...

[@Q-ed9dc]

This poor girl acted in self-defense. The only person who would truly understand Sarah's state of mind and why she felt she had no choice but to either self exit or put down that animal is someone who has experienced fault trauma beginning in childhood. Abusers, if ever convicted, are incarcerated for a couple of years. Victims suffer for the rest of their lives. It never changes; it never subsides. Yes, and some do spend the rest of their lives never leaving their homes; some never leaving the room in which they feel safest. Their lives are spent in that room. The rest of the house is simply to hold stuff. It's a very lonely, empty life, and there's only one way out. The only question is when?

[@jakdelaney3606]

You just described my life 😢

[@danaallen8465]

Yes, I know all to well. Victims caring the burden on their backs forever. You might get to a point in which you can carry on, but it never truly goes away, it’s continuously lurking nearby just to rear its ugly head whenever it feels the need. And, you’re right, predators always get little to no time while someone who’s acting in self defense gets life. There’s a case of a woman who was brutally beaten by her husband on almost a daily basis. He threatened her with a gun on numerous occasions, but when she had enough and shot him because no one not even the police would help her, she received another sentence. She lived a sentence when she was living with her husband daily, when she finally broke those chains, they turn around and put more on her.

[@beerlahai]

I was SAed when I was 9 to 11 by an uncle. It caused problems the rest of my life! I’m now 70 and it ruined intimacy between my husband and myself because of the flashbacks. Men always crossed the line even in the adult years. Still to this day I do not feel comfortable being alone in a room with a man besides by husband.

[@sparrowwilson4514]

Not allowing the jury to know what kind of man he was or the circumstances leading up to the attack automatically prejudices them against Sarah. How is that a fair trial?

[@debcevans]

i am a retired therapist. I have had three DID clients. There is so much that I could share, but Sarah's alters did what they thought they needed to do to protect the system. That is very common. And with regard to integration, some times systems spontaneously integrate, once all all of the alters have shared their stories and feel safe.

[@jakdelaney3606]

Thankyou, I was trying to pinpoint the integration, one I remember exceptionally well, others faded, 2 still with me so I try to never drink. I'm 60 and I'd like to thank you for mentioning this because it took many years and is an ongoing process......unfortunately I spend a lot of time alone but two of us share flat and help each other ......so so much involved, the flippant, heartless comments break my heart, unless you have lived it you cannot possibly know and where the hell were the parents?...... why all the wrath directed at the child? There is a special place in hell for these monsters, and yes,the family knew, they always do. Men can be sickening along with the women who stand by them 🙄 😒 I will keep praying for you girl, this is one I will never forget ❤️

[@missmorla1339]

DID seem to all have Protectors, have your clients had Torturers?

[@midnightzxne]

@@missmorla1339I’m no expert but I wouldn’t think so because the whole point of DID is to protect the individual body from being hurt again

[@didyoujust7810]

I have known I have had DID for 10 years now, and it's a slow healing process. We have been in and out of therapy and have decent communication and control by now. We are currently going through another spontaneous integration right now, and it's so disorientating and seems like a massive step back, but I know it's going to get better. It's such a misunderstood mental condition that it's a pain to explain to people, and telling people also makes you more vulnerable. So we don't tell anyone unless theyre close and need to know because they'll find out eventually (partner for example) and only if we know 1000% that they're safe to tell. We've been abused too many times to be vulnerable again.

[@didyoujust7810]

​​​@@missmorla1339In my experience and what I know of other systems, sometimes there will be abusive alters called 'persecutors', but it's usually self-inflicted and will usually hurt their own body to hurt the other alters, or attempt self-exit. It's pretty rare that someone with DID will attack or abuse or kill someone else, they're much more likely to be a victim, and I'd even say they're much less likely than a neurotypical person to hurt or kill someone. But at the end of the day, it's still possible, because we're still human. Just look up legitimate cases of people with DID committing murder, you'll be hard pressed to find many that aren't just normal people lying to try and claim insanity and get an easier sentence. Even though having DID does not make you insane, and actually prisons for mentally ill people are apparently harder to be released from anyways. So I don't understand why people lie about it and try to use it as a defense.

[@lyricbrewer8617]

As someone that has DID im glad this was covered without being steriotyped or rudely

[@tanaplacko975]

comment: posted within 15 mins of release The video: almost 2 hours 👀👀👀

[@Belliqua]

@@tanaplacko975 It's been on Spotify since last Tuesday

[@angelickiwi493]

​@@tanaplacko975 that's what I was thinking 🤣🤣 but maybe they listened to it on Spotify first or something 😬

[@prettiestloner7737]

​@tanaplacko975 Stephanie uploaded the podcast earlier then this one maybe thts where they got it from

[@Flamsterette]

*STEREOTYPED Without being rudely?

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

Her attorneys screwed up so bad. Why the hell did they not include a self-defense argument at trial.

[@syzygy4365]

The judge would not allow "the victim" of this case to be decimated. Huge mistake on the judges part. Sarah's attorney couldn't defend defend her. This whole case should be thrown out as a miss trial.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

@@syzygy4365 That ruling was correct, because there was no legal way to bring in character evidence against him under an insanity defense. Had her attorney put forth a self-defense argument, all of that evidence would have been permitted under law. Was not the judge’s fault, they have to obey the laws of evidence. The fault was on the attorney for failing to know the law & attempting to introduce evidence improperly.

[@CaroDuran29]

​@@Gaius_SinstoneI have seen tons of cases like this. And you are right, it's not on the judge part, it's on the attorney's side. But why 50 years???

[@drgskates]

I love how victim-blaming is such a common thing. Abusers are allowed to mentally and physically abuse their victims, but the moment the victim manages to "get out," and it's not the "right" way, we get to watch a whole discourse that mimics how the USA views protesting. It's okay to do it, just "not like that." And what they really mean is, "Just die. Stop making us uncomfortable. This doesn't affect us. Ew. Go away." The same people that say, "omg. What happened to Junko and Yuna was terrible." Are the same people saying, "Well, she didn't have to *kill* them to get away."

[@Blakenew127]

Perfectly said.

[@Blakenew127]

Perfectly said.

[@sumivampireprincess]

I agree

[@darenaivanova864]

😂😮😂 1:48:08

[@gypsyfox3285]

So the thought of letting my daughter at that age (or any age as a child) anywhere near a neighbor man alone, or alone AT ALL is UNTHINKABLE to me. I am horrified by the thought of it. Her parents are worthless.

[@realist460]

the judge needs to be looked into for dismissing harold's online activities... probably hiding his own searches

[@samanthagzmn]

My heart breaks for that little girl. Coming home and not being able to communicate the horrors she went through. 😭

[@LuFerreira8787]

I have been diagnosed with DID by multiple psychiatrists. I appreciate the hard work you did here to understand and explain the disorder. Thank you.

[@raisanka.]

Stephanie, your explination of DID was incredibly well said and I am incredibly thankful that you would even take the time to make a segment to disclaim certain things about DID let alone almost 20 minutes to go so in depth. One of my biggest anxieties when I saw this on my home page was that this would further the harmful stereotype that 'Split' gave to DID, but if anything, it did the exact opposite. I have no words genuinely to explain how thankful and happy I feel for that segment alone. Thank you so much.

[@CaseyMarie11-11]

💜 I didn't know anything about DID until I saw this video. I appreciate her taking the time to explain it thoroughly 💜

[@Anna-vl2ni]

I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a survivor of childhood abuse but I felt so seen by the movie split. It didn’t make me stereotype ppl with DID. And I took the animal part as dramatic fiction. The way the actors facial features changed per persona just floored me! (In a good way) and again I felt seen as a survivor when he could decipher survivors from others.❤

[@raisanka.]

@@Anna-vl2ni the only real issue i've had and i think many others mainly had with it was the whole "evil alter bit". we have nonhuman headmates ranging from the fantasy-esc of being dead, gods, as well as fully animalistic ones, so i never really had an issue with that, because each nonhuman alter is different in their own way. it was just the evil-ization so to speak of persecutors that branded them as evil alters

[@phoenixxena8194]

How messed up.. that she feels safe in PRISON. How bad the society has failed her. My heart and prayer for you, sweety baby girl. May future life treat you better. May you find strength and hope to move on.

[@sumivampireprincess]

Amen 😢 such a sad reality we live in

[@KittyCat22976]

I had been told by so many mental health professionals throughout my 20’s, that they weren’t qualified to deal with the trauma I had been through. It is The Most gut punching, hopeless feeling. Luckily when I met my now husband, he was so understanding of me that he basically proposed by showing me his insurance coverages (side note: marriage is definitely about Love, but it’s naïve to not also approach it as a business; hence prenups, etc.). I was able to get an excellent psychiatrist, who prescribed me to both a general family therapist, as well as an EMDR specialist who has 1,000% changed my life for the better. I am so grateful to my loving & patient husband!!! We’ve been married almost 10 years now. He always has my back. ❤

[@1_John_2_27]

She had a life sentence when she moved in with that poor excuse for a man/father figure. It's no wonder she feels safer in prison, there's people living out in the world who are more scary/abusive than anyone who's been in prison.

[@verdorrt]

I was a little worried about the title at first because DID is an extremely serious mental disorder. Throughout media, it has been stigmatized as an extremely bad thing however, it really isn’t. I have a friend who has it and he is the sweetest person ever, along with his alters.

[@rofinatheirin9929]

🫂

[@jameliabangura2365]

You’re right

[@jameliabangura2365]

Hopefully you find this video okay and responsible

[@voodooprincess11]

It can be if people are self diagnosing for attention or using it as an excuse for murder. Just saying.

[@verdorrt]

@@voodooprincess11 that is correct, but my friend was officially diagnosed with DID

[@littlemisslipstick2999]

I'm always extremely troubled when things are hidden from the jury. The grooming of the twins allegations especially. If the defense is speaking to abuse being a major factor in motivations, then the jury should have been able to see the experiences of others.

[@chillyhousecos2193]

As someone who has DID, I was terrified that this would be such a bad outcome but I love how Steph explained everything (she tends to always make sure that people are educated about what mental/physical disorders or illnesses that are in the case). This case is so upsetting because the whole system was trying to escape from these years of abuse/ SA. My heart goes out to them deeply

[@fragolata]

I also enjoy Stephanie’s videos. She and her team always make sure to have a neutral view on it and how something functions !! And I think DID is very interesting but also often misunderstood or viewed wrongly :(

[@chillyhousecos2193]

@@fragolata FR!!

[@Stinkydinkytrashcan]

I read up on the district attorney charles branson who was the one who gave her 50 years..he has a history of hostility against victims of sexual crimes so hopefully the courts take that into consideration when her parole hearing occurs

[@saaramohamed8921]

charles branson shouldn't be allowed to judge abuse survivors then. her story made me tear up

[@lizf1353]

People are confused how you could look different based on your personality but think of identical twins and how people who know them well can tell them apart easily just by looking at them.

[@bubblegumbubblezaj]

As someone with DID i appreciate the disclaimer and consulting in people in the DID community 💗 cases like these cause people to see us in a bad light because they dont care to know how it works

[@msoda8516]

I was in an in patient woman’s trauma program for ptsd when I was 21. One of the ladies in the group had Dissociative identity disorder it was something I had heard of but didn’t really believe was possible. However after spending 2 weeks with Mary and becoming friends it changed my perspective completely. The human brain in a very complex and complicated thing. It’s ability the protect from trauma is amazing. I think of how I disassociated when I was sexually assaulted allowing me to survive.

[@Flamsterette]

*ITS ABILITY TO

[@msoda8516]

@@Flamsterette I’m a brain tumor survivor after my surgery I lost the ability to read and write for a few months. Sadly a lasting effect is I often make grammar and spelling errors along with sometimes using an incorrect word despite doing my best to proofread I still miss them sometimes.

[@twiceuwuu]

​@@FlamsteretteThis is someone's trauma and you're here correcting Grammar so unnecessary grow up

[@Flamsterette]

@@twiceuwuu Excuse you. Punctuation is extremely important. So is proper typing. YOU grow up.

[@twiceuwuu]

@@Flamsterette No it's not

[@dakr3464]

A doctor should never do any body enhancing to a 17 ur old because their body is not done growing 😮

[@pettykittyfam]

EXACTLY 💯 NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE ANY BODY ALTERING PROCEDURES OR TAKE ANY DRUGS THAT WILL PERMANENTLY ALTER THEIR BODY IN THE FUTURE ❤

[@ariej9028]

Not true unfortunately

[@TeethAndEyeballs]

We really need to start holding these doctors accountable, seriously smh

[@A13-m2z]

Yeah, but sadly it is not uncommon for professionals to do purely cosmetics surgeries on minors. In Mexico is not that weird for 15 year old girls to get nose jobs, double chin removals, etc. (At least in the north of Mexico)

[@Miss_Kisa94]

Actually shouldn't it be illegal? She was a minor at the time.

[@Roboboyjinx]

I’m not sure if you’d ever see this, but I’d LOVE if you guys covered Jeni Haynes story. She is a woman with DID who successfully put her abusive father that gave her DID in prison YEARS after the fact, and multiple of her parts/alters/headmates came out and testified in such detail (due to the fact that some parts still felt like they were experiencing the abuse) and he ended up pleading guilty and getting put in jail. It’s honestly such a truly amazing story while being equally heartbreaking for what she went through. She’s got a book(The Girl in the Green Dress) that she wrote herself as well as a documentary for 60 Minutes Australia.

[@xx9aznfaith9xx]

I was about to comment this! Her story is so interesting and would love for Stephanie to cover it also!

[@MirnaEJiron]

She didn’t make it up. She got abused as a child, and as a young Adult. Wow! She’s a victim of her parents.

[@Panda_Roll]

Sister: "Hey, there is this guy twice my lil sis's age who is giving her money, drugs and very weird ideas. I think we need to do something mom" Mother: "we will pray for her." That response made me so angry. Like, tell me you're doing less than nothing without saying it!

[@sydneysovern]

I literally laughed out loud at that. Not bc it’s funny, but bc of how insane it is 🥲

[@Tatycharmz]

i truly wonder is it ignorance and a lack of emotional intelligence , or does she just not give a damn?

[@eafawn]

a lot could've been avoided if the mom just listens and care for her daughter

[@mensesmimi]

​@@Tatycharmzshe didn't give a damn

[@savannahmae3679]

And this is why evidence should not be left out just because it's controversial.

[@syzygy4365]

Never in a case with potential grooming. Let their character be known. Why are you protecting him when they should be concerned for his next victims.

[@feralhomunculus]

I cried when you said that Sarah is working for Pooches & Pals now. I think because it was the first postive thing I've heard in her story. I have cptsd from childhood trauma and I became a dog trainer in my 20s. It saved my life. It's the most gratifying thing I've ever done. You're not just helping the dogs, which is amazing, but you're also helping people so much. I hope she can find peace and happiness.

[@sansmehta]

The way rotten tomato tells these stories leaves me awestruck! No other channel has me hooked like this. I look forward to all these videos because of the sheer storytelling talent. Such a fan 🙌 Love from 🇮🇳

[@eve5226]

Hey! Just wanted to let you know it's rotten mango instead of tomato; also I completely agree!

[@TaliaJacobs-ng6ie]

I think maybe they said tomato cuz maybe they translated from Indian to English but its not a big deal

[@Zoeyy789]

Rotten Tomato?

[@lenasamzelius5530]

I wholeheartedly agree (but it's Rotten Mango 🥭 😅). This channel is always fantastic. Very respectful and caring, with good storytelling, very well done research, Steph as the narrator is perfect and her "co-host" very good as well. They have a very charming and pleasant way to interact. No irrelevant talk, always focused and clear. I am so impressed!

[@Caoline-c8y]

I really enjoy Rotten Mango. I have never heard Stephanie (or her husband) speak disrespectfully on any of the episodes. I had an education today on D.I.D. I had never heard of this disorder in these terms. Thank you R.M. for teaching an older woman something new.

[@clodflanderson]

Who tf let's a 4/5 year old child run around outside ALONE? & Not even care about this child coming back IN THEIR UNDERWEAR? My son is 9 & I don't let him outside alone, let alone, to roam around the neighborhood. Wtf is wrong with her parents.

[@eldupont3095]

I was allowed to play alone outside in the 90s, and even make my own way to my friends houses on the same street. and I grew up in a loving and non-neglectful home. some people just think differently about these things. That said, Sarah's mom absolutely sounds horribly neglectful, and if i had ever come back home in that state, I never would have been allowed to go anywhere alone ever again

[@misscyanic2484]

Gen X was raised like that lol we kids used to roam far when not in school. Non phones, parents dk, dc. We'd eat lunch in parks or take a sammich along. I can't believe how far I'd go at so young. 6yo, 1/2 mile; 11yo, 15miles. So many creeps n flashers back then too. Ugh. Surprised me to know it was pretty much an entire generation grew up like that!

[@missmorla1339]

Children were to be seen and not heard, we learned self taught independence, reliance and situational awareness very young. Childhood trauma is horrendous but a 6th sense power is given in exchange for it. You can immediately know the bad intentions of anyone you come across, friend from foe in a sense. Its a survival mechanism you cannot teach it has to be acquired through a hellish baptism. The preciousness of innocents is more sacred to those who have lost theirs.

[@beerlahai]

Wow! Times have really changed! I’m 70 yrs old now but remember playing outside at 9 years old by myself! We just had to be home before the street lights came on. I raised both my children the same way and never worried about them playing outside or riding their bikes along.

[@beerlahai]

@@missmorla1339we’ve seen evil up close and personal which gives us a sixth sense when we come across it again. We are also very alert and protective of our own children so it doesn’t happen to them.

[@gmom525]

Your cohost is a keeper. His reactions are perfect, his questions smart and are often exactly what I am wondering.

[@jdsummers1333]

Screw that judge.

[@gandalfthegrey4694]

I don’t usually comment on vids, but ive been a silent listener on this channel for a long time. As someone who struggles with a mental disorder myself (not DID), i really appreciate how Steph was so respectful when speaking about mental illnesses. The bus analogy in this ep helped me understand DID as an outsider, which is just great communication. Thank you for your empathy and thorough storytelling!

[@thystar]

Judges like this needs to be investigated.

[@miinnoo]

as someone who is diagnosed with did i really appreciate the time and effort you took into explaining and researching the disorder. it is so heavily demonised due to media and movies such as split, so thank you for talking about it before going into the case ❤

[@mishamatch]

I hated that movie Split. It made DID representation so much worse 😒

[@Dells16]

DID is one of the most fascinating and heartbreaking mental disorders i have studied. I've never heard of this case so I'm intrigued

[@rime.petrose]

Harold's family seemed a bit too happy to have someone else receiving his abuse That way he wouldn't have targeted the children in the family 🤷‍♀️

[@suprstaarzz]

the way the court would not allow the mention of what Harold was doing to her is INSANE. that is so much *evidence* that was just left not mentioned, and could have changed the entirety of how it went.

[@rikkismith]

It’s hard to find people accept and not judge the illness, the fact Stephanie knows what it actually is and even the misconceptions is very satisfying to see. In my opinion Stephanie is so through and on top the research team, it’s one of the big reasons I continuing watching her, she has built a trustworthy reputation with her audience.

[@gdubs1787]

as someone diagnosed with mild bpd who was told to avoid everything substance related EVEN JUST smoking because it can exacerbate symptoms, i can’t even begin to imagine the effects that drug abuse would have on someone with as severe a diagnosis as sarah.

[@triplesixcrow]

as someone with what i’d call raging BPD (prof diagnosed as well had to clarify) and very rampant addiction issues that are for the most part under control now, (i’m in recovery), I gotta say it exaggerates and amplifies every symptom imaginable. i’m only 23 and im still building back my life from c***ine abuse from 2017-2021

[@C-SD]

Thank you for handling the DID part of this video the way you did. We get a lot of bad "press".

[@cheekymoses]

"As I was going through the 1500 pages of court documents..." STEPHANIE 🙌🏽🔥 Going above and beyond! I almost didn't make it through this one. I wish one adult in Sarah's life had protected her.

[@D3m3nz4]

DID usually happens by prolonged emotional or sexual trauma in a child. A child put into a severely traumatic or painful situation they cannot accept the reality of or save themselves from, their only tool is to seperate their physical sense from their mind. It even interferes with memory coding, so they have little or no memory of the traumatic event. Although it helps them in the short run during traumatic moments, in a long term situation children start using dissociation to cope with stress in a varity of situations. Frequent dissociation of memories, thoughts, and emotions starts to interfere with normal functioning. Most alters have a specific "job". There are even alters who block the sense of smell. In a functional MRI you can even see different parts of the brain light up during different alters.

[@nightsongmoon5641]

As someone who has it it can be anything tromatic to a child yes it has to be prolonged but it's not just sexual or emotional abuse.

[@coffejeliy]

i saw men who did more violent crimes got lower sentences...

[@4bbb711]

predators protects their own

[@PostingmemesTiLLIdie]

The things children go through without speaking. This is so disgusting. I'm so disappointed and angry

[@semideadnat]

I had former friends with DID and I can that even as someone who doesn't have DID, Stephine does do a great job at explaining it to where even everyone who don't have it can understand.

[@Mercyfalls]

As many others have already commented, reading DID in the title of a True Crime video had me instantly worried because it is so often misrepresented but Stephanie thankfully was factual & respectful. I lived in a group home for a few years and had two systems as flatmates, one of which I became close friends with the main fronter. (I hope the terms are the same translated into English) Never did I feel unsafe. Despite what mainstream media often shows, they are not a danger to other people. Sadly they are much more likely to hurt themselves or become victims of others than ever become a danger to someone else. The only times I was scared was FOR them, not OF them. I hope someday there will be more acceptance for systems with DID. While any mental illness/disorder is not completely understandable if you haven't experienced it yourself, there should still be compassion like for more common illnesses such as depression or anxiety. I wish at least the harmful & wrong stereotypes cease to exist.

[@yoojeebee]

LET HER OUT THAT GIRL IS INNOCENT MY GOD 😭💔💔

[@charmingowloflavenderism]

Thank you for explaining DID and handling the subject with care. For those of us who had nobody to protect us as children the stigma is so unfair. It should be seen as the defense mechanism that it is as opposed to some personal failing or potentially dangerous thing.

[@davidjones8043]

DID isn't real!!!

[@TwichMcvey-mc3pv]

At least in prison she is finally getting the help she needed all along. She is safer now than she EVER was before and the cost for mental health care is absorbed by the system. If she was out she would most likely be stuck at the bottom of the system screaming for help and seeing no way out again. The system we have for society in this country is harmful to anyone that wasn't born rich and doesn't have a huge support net.

[@theresabubenzer6452]

I had a childhood friend who was sexually abused by father and others. She developed DID in response and one of her personalities converted to a completely different religion than what we both were raised in. It's a real condition.

[@Sumayya-vb8jq]

Omg :(

[@Fl3sh.E4t1ng.Fr3ak]

50 YEARS FOR SELF DEFENSE???? This justice system is fucking disgusting.

[@najahosman9620]

The system is fucked America is on its deathbed

[@hopewood-g8m]

real shit

[@4fcwvampire277]

The daughter of Harold said her dad was taken or stolen from her . Imagine Harold SAing his own daughter . She , herself is a girl or women . Can’t she read under the lines . The judge didn’t have an idea of DID . Even if we didn’t have through explaining from the narrator , we would have misunderstood Sarah too . I hope the judge doesn’t through this case under the bus and does his own research about DID . I’ll be praying for dear Sarah’s recovery ❤️‍🩹.

[@TJ-bn2cn]

I believe that she should be free and supported with long term help. She should have been treated fairly in court and the jury should be given the truth and not have parts hidden from them. I hope that she finds happiness ❤

[@almightykeem3679]

Whether she had D.I.D or not, she STILL was S-A‘d several times. That’s PTSD at LEAST

[@robertdyers]

Its sad that she had to do any jail time. The amount of abuse someone has to take in order for them to mu***r someone is tragic

[@rofinatheirin9929]

Edit: 25 minutes in, and so far the video is more respectful than the initial title. I hope that most people will stick around long enough to learn something about this disorder. 🙏 Title is a little concerning…DID is one of the conditions that are already horribly stigmatized. Here’s hoping the video has more care when approaching the topic. 😭

[@ferazapam]

real bru

[@BabzV]

Stigmatized? Really? That's just sad, I can not imagine having to live with DID. It's trauma based I believe?

[@munchies5760]

Stephanie always handles her videos with care I think it will be fine

[@rofinatheirin9929]

@@BabzV yeah, to* oversimplify it, it’s essentially the result of severe childhood PTSD/cPTSD.

[@dyawr]

Yeah, but it's relevant to the story. Part of the main plot

[@aaaaaaaaaaaayeahidk]

Only 15 minutes in so far but I just wanted to take a second and acknowledge how respectful your being about DID!! It’s really refreshing to see such a stigmatized disorder talked about with grace and an attempt at understanding

[@TwichMcvey-mc3pv]

Why the hell were the adults allowing her to leave the house ALONE???!! SHE WAS A BABY!!! HER PARENTS WERE NEGLECTFUL AND SELFISH! I hate her mother most! Just in the house doing whatever and NOT watching her child?? A little girl who even was hurt and screaming for her mother and she sent her to her room!?! Thank the gods this kid saved herself. No one else was gonna!! They are a HUGE part of why this kid's mind had to make more people for her. She had to MAKE a support system for herself IN HERSELF. Too many adults used this kid, pushed her aside and told her to figure it out on her own. Nasty men out here using and abusing very young people are why her mom should have given a damn more and her Dad to protect her.

[@crimsonredkingdom2656]

I’ve been in the hospital for over a week, and videos like this have been essential to me being entertained. These videos have been keeping my mind off of what I’m going through. (I have Sickle Cell Anemia, and I’m currently hospitalized for a pain crisis/pneumonia.)

[@skulkskulk]

I'm wishing you the best and that your health improves. ❤

[@pettykittyfam]

Sending prayers 🙏 and blessings 🙏 And positive healing energy ❤❤❤

[@darkdest6664]

Hey good luck to you fellow human

[@crimsonredkingdom2656]

@@pettykittyfam Thank you I appreciate your well wishes.

[@julireep278]

Bless your heart, I know how horrible that can be😢 I used to have a patient that suffered from fairly frequent sickle cell crisis, and I'd cry for her every time. Prayers for you!🙏🏻♥️

[@ixxiekoo]

the judge definitely took harold’s death personally.

[@yikes369]

You dealt with the topic of DID so gracefully!

[@whyisthisdifferentnow]

Every adult in her life, let her down. It’s sad that prison might be the solace she’s ever gotten.

[@Flamsterette]

Bad writing!

[@saaramohamed8921]

The fact that DID is sooo stigmatised for an illness caused by immense abuse and trauma is wild to me. I'm not diagnosed yet but we had to be so resiliant to protect ourselves because no one else did. It took me so much therapy and self reflection to even unravel my trauma that happened when I was younger and I did not even realise I was having amnesia or blocking out most of my memories because to me it was like it never happened. Our alters hide from ourselves so well most people that know me will not catch it unless they were a professional. I've had my dad say "I'm like a different person" sometimes but that was it

[@lilaislilly]

DissociaDID would definitely approve of this explanation, you guys did your research so well!

[@jihoatibagoschoi]

yes! Love watching DissociaDID since 4years ago and I think about them the moment I watched this video.

[@akithprotectorofthesky9111]

I just want to bring forward that I believe that the prosecutors and judge who were mixing up "defendant" and "victim" were experiencing Freudian slips which could be defined as: "an unconscious thought, belief, or wish". Basically, even though Sarah was the one being prosecuted as a defendant, they unconsciously thought of her as the victim and Harold as the perpetrator. Also, in my opinion, Sarah did what she thought was her only option in order to gain freedom from the abuse and she reached a point where she knew things were over for her after the crime but she felt it was worth it in order to escape the abuse and feel safe. This doesn't mean it was the right thing to do and I don't agree with the choice but I understand that trauma can lead one down a dark path and we all have our limits...

[@mensesmimi]

That shows they knew she was the real victim but still let her get 50 years in prison for murdering the real perpetrator in self defense. Even biased the trial against her intentionally by not allowing her to present relevant information about the circumstances of the crime which would prove it was self defense and that there were many mitigating factors. That judge knew what he was doing and did it on purpose to stop the real victim from having justice and send a message to the rest of the world and the rest of victims of people like Harold and experiences like what Sarah went through that THEY will not "get away" with protecting themselves, defending themselves, and avenging themselves from the crimes perpetrated against them whereas the abuser (according to the judge) should continue to get off scot free and even be protected from anyone considering them a criminal or abuser. Sick.

[@sakura_suc]

The shower makes sense. She felt dirty. Shes felt dirty and ashamed her whole life. How do you cope with physically being dirty? With a shower or cleaning. People who feel dirty do to trauma, ect might shower or clean compulsively.

[@DaniellaElie-s7b]

As a 3rd year psychology student this is so informative gives me a totally different perspective. Thank you Stephanie!

[@bubblegirl55]

why are the victims punished so hard? hell if this monster disgusting freak of the nature was even alive, he wouldn't even get a proper sentence.... talk about a fair system ugh

[@evabremner7163]

In my opinion if Gypsy Rose is out and she also killed her abuser, (though she got her boyfriend to commit the act) then why can't Sarah and her system. She clearly got an unfair trial and I fail to see how justice was served in this case.

[@sunnydaysdown]

I agree. But remember Gypsy went to prison and took a plea deal, that's why she was released early

[@daz3d685]

1:13:49 killing animals for pleasure is a tell tell sign of a serial killer. However as a farmer who feeds my family with the Rabbits and chickens I'd appreciate it if it was covered in a different way. "Pet" rabbits are usually meat rabbits bred by farmers and sold to stores like rural king.

[@amberjulia123]

Exactly. My mom has a rabbit coop on her land and breeds, kills, and eats them regularly. They look exactly like the “pet rabbits” you get in pet stores. Also, they are delicious and my mom is not evil for killing her own food instead of allowing some large farm to kill it for her and sell it at the supermarket.

[@s_haro]

Another story where the woman is unfairly portrayed as the villain and blamed in a situation of abuse. People should know better, they know how men behave. It's exhausting to see yet again a monster being victimized and glorified by so many people and family members just because they didn't see, or ignore, this side of him. This is the life of women, being treated unfairly, being lied to or manipulated, being use, and being accuse of telling lies when we reach out for help.

[@rb7619]

She murdered someone, she is both victim and perpetrator. Perhaps you’re incapable of thinking in nuances and have to see these people as black/white

[@Junhuistry]

​@@rb7619the problem is not seeing her as a victim pr whatever the problem is that the justice system straight up denied to see the man involved as someone who could've done wrong things