Girl With Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) Kills Her Abuser

[@ebulliently]

my heart dropped when stephanie said sarah hated their next door neighbor. oh my god. she came home without clothes on and nobody asked any questions? nobody wondered where they went? nobody was watching her? she was a child, a BABY. 4 years old?! they should have protected her.

[@antbandd]

she was so neglected its disgusting, her parents should be in jail

[@yuko273]

Yeah, me too. I instantly new: he hurt her. Poor Sarah

[@FeleciaVan-pd2cz]

Usually parents have programming too and are programmed pimp out their kids

[@catherinewardwell2117]

Neglect! So Sad

[@famejustfame3258]

Did the creepy neighbor get arrested?

[@agnieszkamiller3008]

Possession of child pornography is not a "character flaw", it's a criminal offence

[@gabbypowell7607]

No b

[@JosédomingoAyalaramos-m5f]

De aquí E

[@muslimahsharing4761]

Exactly!

[@SkAR-7777]

@@loucipher7782bruh that’s rough

[@brokenbear09737]

@@loucipher7782 that’s not fing funny to say

[@gdubs1787]

the part that wasn’t allowed in court about those twin girls that harold was grooming….. shivers man. the system didn’t save them, sarah did.

[@autumntipton3670]

Agreed. I wish Sarah didn't have to resort to murder, and that she could live a normal happy life, but the system wasn't going to help Sarah or any of the other victims that man abused. They made it evident when they didn't want it mentioned that he was a pedophile and tried to portray him as a victim.

[@leafyten2253]

This comment

[@loucipher7782]

was wondering if the judge actually knew Harold and want to protect his image as a good Christian white man or they basically belong in the same club

[@sumivampireprincess]

I agree ​@@autumntipton3670

[@kirikakirikakirika]

My dad's friend used to be a guard at a women's prison. He told me that the majority of female convicts (at least where he worked) were victims of SA. Let that sink in.

[@emilycampbell5798]

💯

[@pinoytunes7707]

They are not inherently evil, they just met evil people.

[@rydz656]

Sexy.

[@cyd3716]

Probably the vast majority if not almost all

[@WildSweetnCool]

It's true. Sadly. Hopefully, we can strengthen protections for the vulnerable, and everyone.

[@shawtygotlo1]

This girl not only rescued herself (bc clearly nobody else was going to), she rescued FUTURE VICTIMS. Her actions had a net positive result on the world.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

agreed

[@ameliab324]

And also the girl who did this had other people in her system that already held massive amounts of trauma whom she probably felt like she couldn't let suffer like this any more.

[@Nadeko]

@@DBKtoday2 i mean she did save those other girls...

[@icecreamsandwich652]

@@DBKtoday2of course, you men always love to make it about yourselves. U don’t care.

[@Soranobishes]

​@@icecreamsandwich652 You don't have to bring any gender here. If you have trauma or issues with specific gender please seek therapy rather than spreading hatred on the internet

[@creepycrawlie]

hiding her dads keys so he wouldn’t leave so the neighbor wouldn’t hurt her brought me to instant tears

[@jenellenelson4447]

I couldn't handle that either.. Absolutely devastating. There's a lot kids hide from their parents, but that's only when the parents aren't... Parenting properly. I struggle with mental health but my son doesn't receive my own negative thoughts if that makes sense. I don't take my s**t out on him, whereas her parents absolutely did and MORE. I wonder if the dad's depression had anything to do with maybe knowing what was going on, but he didn't know how to deal with it. I'm not making excuses at all because even if that's the case, he's a bigger, MASSIVE pos. I guarantee her mom knew and didn't care. They let her move out too young because they didn't care anymore. You don't abandon your teenage child like that unless you're the problem. Rant over 😅

[@lianoid918]

That was truly devastating to hear. Hate to put it this way, but major plot twist. It makes so much sense. That was a brutal realization. So simple. So small. 😢

[@respectthefish4992]

this and her coming home naked at 4 and her family laughing it off how silly she is 💔 tbh I hate her mother

[@ireboren11]

Sooooo messed up. Agree

[@malachi2887]

That part messed me up I had to take a break from listening, it’s so sad😢

[@LadyGefnNL]

Men SA-ing different children, 5 years with chance of parole. Women kl-ing their predators, 50 years and not forgiven. The math is not mathing.

[@thomas60274]

The math is corrupted, someone should check the judicial systems laptops and phones. Generally what ive seen around world is that its rare they do any type of looking into them but everytime they do theres multiple top officials involved in something unspeakable.

[@DBKtoday2]

But what you have to understand that this is, by far not the most frequent case. What occurs most frequently (and this is proven) is that females have an excuse found and are subjected to far less time for equal crimes. NOBODY asks or seeks to find out what a man went through that caused him to behave as he did - nobody cares to excuse it. What I am saying is there are casual factors for behaviors for all people regardless of gender and if we consider them for one we must consider for all. When it comes down to it then a young lady needs mental health care but so do the men who murder as well. Additionally, no matter what the excuse this young lady still presents a danger to society. She has a killer as one personality. Does not matter what caused it - we feel bad - but how bad do you feel if her murdering personality kills your kid? The solution to this is to assist all victims regardless of gender to stop cycles of violence. Do you think there are not men who were abused in similar ways and have similar trauma responses? There are - but nobody cares. The truth is that the man that abused her stands a great I’d chance of having been abused by his mother.

[@Flamsterette]

@@DBKtoday2 Paragraphs and better spelling are good ideas here for this Berlin Wall of text and word vomit.

[@JR-vk9mt]

@@Flamsterettethis person is censoring themselves 💀 it’s not “slang”

[@Flamsterette]

@@JR-vk9mt Yeah, it is, and it's unacceptable.

[@mama-wh3dv]

"no one deserves a murder" - child abusers do. sexual abusers do. mental abusers do. Herald did.

[@yoojeebee]

exactly

[@najahosman9620]

I know thats right

[@Ashley_Mo]

Abusers kill a part of those they abuse, sometimes to the point it’s worse than death itself, to live with those emotional or physical scars. Call us psychopaths, but Herald didn’t deserve the life he basically took away from this girl.

[@mama-wh3dv]

@@Ashley_Mo exactly... sometimes death is not the worst,,, it's having to live with those scars :(

[@Ashley_Mo]

@@mama-wh3dv 100%. My heart breaks for this girl and all that have suffered such severe levels of abuse. Or abuse of any kind in general. I don’t think she’s a danger to society at this point and I hope by her parole hearing they give her a chance. She seems to be doing better and more stable mentally and if she has a good support system once released (maybe her sister or other friends and family we don’t know about) I really think she can have a have a good shot at living a fulfilling life and also helping other victims like she said she wanted to. I really hope she gets that chance.❤️

[@beastblood2five]

Just in case anyone is wondering. The change from Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) to Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) emphasizes the idea that it's not just about having multiple personalities, but about dissociation, a disconnect between thoughts, identity, consciousness, and memory.

[@ClownCoreWhore]

Just wanted to add that the name was changed bcus those with DID have ONE personality that has been fractured into multiple pieces. Like a glass bowl you dropped, each shard is it's own individual piece, but they originate from one whole. Dissociative identity disorder is a more accurate name to the experience.

[@meozy4365]

The judge refusing to look at Harold's "character flaws" proves how much the justice system protects predators and punishes victims.

[@Fancyisland]

Fr. The judge should get his search history checked cuz he seems a little suspicious

[@Adam-326]

This case had more to do with the girl than with Harold.

[@janie2103]

@@Adam-326 Are you Harold??? You're replying to multiple comments defending him🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KonekoCat.]

​@@Adam-326 sus. Even if it is, stop defending predators and criminals, honestly there was no meaningful life lost, especially if it's someone who is a ped, no sympathy for monsters.

[@Adam-326]

@@KonekoCat. I’m not defending him. I’m just saying that he wasn’t the one on trial and that it would be worth keeping that in mind.

[@nina19733]

Evidence that showed his character wasn't admissible in court because HE was not on trial???? Where is that consideration Every Single Time a woman accuses a man of s.a. and her character gets dragged through the mud to show 'she had it coming'?!?!

[@tamale4864]

exactly!!

[@ktgrnhig]

Or when someone kills an unarmed black person, suddenly the victim is the one on trial?

[@fortyshorty2459]

Exactly!!!!🎯💯

[@aprilbranson4744]

That part though 😭 😡!

[@scream_kinh614]

​@@ktgrnhig this is real as fuck, when George Floyd was killed everyone was talking about previous drug abuse as justification... Like what????

[@Mewmaster_69]

Did he say no? Then he probably liked it. What was he wearing? Exactly. He ruined a perfectly good woman’s life. If he didn’t want to die he shouldn’t of made someone else feel like they wanted to die.

[@saaramohamed8921]

this is so real

[@celeste.cutz2020]

All for sexual gratification, it’s just disgusting. These victims struggle for so long after they are tortured by these sick creatures. All for sexual pleasure. It makes me sick that these people exist.

[@hopeyhopee]

real shit

[@charlieyman]

Mhm.

[@firstlivingl139]

real

[@freshlysqueezedpopsicle]

the amount of manipulation at play in the media and the portrayal of “kind business men” is disgusting. honestly? he got what was coming for him…

[@KaMQue-w8y]

I question why the judge want to evidence about the man

[@jakdelaney3606]

I went mental at " personally flaws'....Jesus....closest I've ever come to hearing my life out loud, without the ultimate escape.....poor child but it wont matter where she is now, she Is still free.....

[@Tatycharmz]

what no way they called him that, he is monstrous and a disgrace.

[@laurierice7687]

​@@jakdelaney3606❤

[@RadenWA]

Proving his abuse for a ground of self defense is way more important than whether she has DID or not. Shame on the court system for denying that.

[@charmingowloflavenderism]

Honestly, they should fire that judge for screwing up her case so badly. If a person is murdered why would it not be a relevant factor that he watches abuse material on his computer and grooms young women into having sex with them? He even controlled her medicine and shelter which is used in courts to establish patterns of mind control. This entire situation is so insane and the only reason I can think of that judge refusing is that he is also engaging in such behavior himself.

[@burmessafox3939]

Bet that judge is a predator too

[@danaallen8465]

Exactly, it was a complete injustice to her. How else is a juror supposed to make a sound decision regarding her case? He definitely should be fired ASAP before he screws someone else’s life up.

[@bubblegirl55]

that judge SCREAMS of predator too, so heartbreaking to see young women, women all around the world getting murdered violently and tortured but the raptist spawns of demons gets a light sentence of 5-10 years. its such a slap on the face on the victim, disgusting. it boils my blood we have a messed up system that favors the defendants than the victims

[@blueberrysmoothie]

A lot of judges are old men who have a particular point of view of the world and the way they deal with sexual assault cases is sickening, see the judge's comments in the Stanford swimmer rapist Brock Turner's case. It's really difficult to get a judge "fired" as they are elected officials - but you can get judges recalled if you get enough signatures and votes by the public.

[@DianaOsazenaye]

he probably corrupt

[@deadlyowl08]

I am speechless. That “mother” not only completely ignored her CHILD’S trauma, but she made it even worse. Some parents do not deserve a child. I believe, if only parents were more attentive in her life, Sarah would have been in another place…

[@alkahinat4558]

Exactly this. Sarah was let down by the adults around her from a very early age, it’s so sad

[@jxtp0sed]

I absolutely agree. I wish the mom and dad had some kind of penalty to pay because it was straight up child neglect that literally influenced this situation by letting the SA continue and not interfering - i cant believe she would come home unclothed and they just couldn’t care less. The mom even sl*tshamed her when she was older! My jaw dropped at that part. Some people are real garbage. I’m sad they are having more communication now than they ever seemed to have when she was a child. I hope the parents never live this down. Sarah saved so many other girls from a similar fate. I hope this gets relooked at and she’s exonerated or cleared of charges, and provided with future pathways to financial stability and mental health resources.

[@FeleciaVan-pd2cz]

She's a Ritual abuse Victim that's what they don't get or understand

[@Faerygodessmrb]

I agree. My mom was the same way. When I tried to tell her about one incident that happened to me, she was dismissive and didn't want to hear about it. She made me feel like a liar and like it was my fault. I had been sa by different people, throughout my childhood, and I just stopped telling her, because I knew she wouldn't believe me. Later on when one of her other boyfriends (cause she had many) when he threatened her to do something to me. He literally said....I can put something in her drink and do something to her, or he would say, when she's walking to school or back, I can have someone take her and do something to her. My mom wouldn't believe him and she would be like...shut up, you're stupid. Like that was it. Like what kind of mother just blows that off and doesn't take that threat seriously. She didn't care about me, she was just with him to get his paycheck from work. And that specific bf of hers was a pervert, he would always act really weird around me, but I would do my best to keep my distance and lock the door to my bedroom. And people wonder why I don't talk to my mother. She is a pathological liar and a narcissist. So many won't ever get it, why I finally made the decision to block her out of my life. I never really felt any genuine love from my mother.

[@vibechecked7522]

I was abused after I started transitioning from female to male, and my mom, who had no clue, asked me if I was assaulted as a child. Then proceeded to say that if I was, it was okay, we could go to church and have them all pray for me and cure me of my sin. Yes Debra, that definitely makes me want to open up to you.

[@sparrowwilson4514]

Not allowing the jury to know what kind of man he was or the circumstances leading up to the attack automatically prejudices them against Sarah. How is that a fair trial?

[@geniusdork1476]

The way the judge was... weirdly biased to the abuser, there's a chance the judge empathizes with his wrongdoings bc it reminds the judge of themselves. They need to be investigated tf..

[@4bbb711]

OBVIOUSLY A PREDATOR HIMSELF

[@doodahgurlie]

Yep. Or he's protecting people around him who are. That judge should really be looked into and removed from his position.

[@Maruzzela-l1u]

​@@doodahgurlie that judge? Or that judge and all his friends and then the friends of those too

[@Shyam16825]

Every one failed her 😢 Her parents failed her. The people she trusted failed her. The justice system failed her. She was a victim before becoming a killer.

[@sallyfield2895]

Thats how I felt too. If her parents looked even a little bit closer at their baby....

[@pinkclouds.98]

I felt so sad when her parents did NOTHING when she came back home with no clothes on. What parent thinks that's normal??? Everybody around her failed her tremendously

[@hopeyhopee]

she wasn’t a killer in my eyes a rapist is no longer a person she just displaced a thing into a statistic

[@Shyam16825]

@@hopeyhopee yep totally

[@m4tta]

this girl didn’t have a single chance in her life

[@abigailmaturana741]

i’m so mad that sarah, a victim who commited a crime to escape, got a worse sentence than actual monsters 😡

[@woahhal]

exactly. pedos and rapists dont even get sentences like that. this case is heart breaking

[@lily.97]

Cynthia brown is going through the same thing .. she defended herself from her grapist and now she’s doing life smh he was s@s offender and a pedo like come on …

[@nessy2000]

​@@woahhal Anyone who tortures animals is a demon. It is not important to understand this. We need to stop it.

[@ilikecatsandyourmum9940]

Women usually get far worse sentences than men do that do the same crimes, or worse, sadly.

[@Flamsterette]

@@woahhal *DON'T *HEARTBREAKING

[@matthewbolivar9865]

As someone with DID I love how you explained the disorder, the trauma cup metaphor is really good

[@whiskitty]

I can't believe the courts wouldn't discuss a 50 year old man's behaviour around a 17 year old and WHAT led to this 🤦‍♀ they were clearly biased from the get go. Maybe they should check the judge's search history

[@petervansan1054]

so next time with SA victim are we going to discuss how she dressed? It's same argument

[@fwhuda7824]

@@petervansan1054what are you talking about

[@petervansan1054]

@@fwhuda7824 its same argument

[@ohsnapitsemmie]

@@petervansan1054honestly get out from these comments. why are you bringing up victim blaming?

[@petervansan1054]

@@ohsnapitsemmie because that is what everyone is doing here? She is not a victim in this case, thank god judge was sane one

[@Cheezybrie]

The fact that he moved a 17 year old girl in as a grown adult (especially with power over her already as her boss), multiple people have said He was a creep (and that there was a police report against him for it BEFORE the news of his death), the disgusting stuff on his phone, and the fact it the word she wrote in his blood was "freedom", I cannot understand how they couldn't have used the battered woman defense. Because regardless of her diagnosis, he had it coming.

[@Itsairbitch]

Literally when I heard the ages I couldn’t believe it I had a similar situation got kicked out at 17 and a 33 year old let me stay with him and same thing I thought he was gunna help me but he just wanted “other things” 😔 it’s seriously so disgusting that’s such a vulnerable age I’m almost 22 (still young) but I could see how young I really was looking back and how wrong that was, I feel horrible for what this girl went through it’s hell on earth when you have no where else to go and they threaten the only roof over your head

[@jenmiranda13]

Yeah. I mean, imagine if it happened to a different girl who handled it differently. We don't know how far HE was willing to go after enough time had passed. Like he was into some disgusting stuff and he already started doing some of it to her. What if he wanted to do more to her once he believed that she was completely under his control?

[@BrookeKatherine.]

@@Itsairbitchhe was 50, he was 33 years older than her at 17. So disgusting..

[@saphire9823]

Exactly

[@syafirawidyastuti4480]

Oh my God... That's disgusting🤢​@@BrookeKatherine.

[@mahjabin-zm5fv]

She got 50 years in jail while the Junko Furuta monsters got 5-7 years....... Wow the justice system is really funny Isn't it

[@ynxiia]

Fr. Like?!???

[@missmorla1339]

@@ynxiia She is in the very Abrahamic bible belt of the American Midwest and the Junko monsters happened in Japan. The legal system on death is different, although similar in both is rapist and torturers are only slapped on the wrists and called naughty in both countries.

[@Pickledlimbs]

​@@missmorla1339 men n women are treated very differently even by the legal system no matter where they are

[@fragolata]

@@Pickledlimbsthis is so scary

[@MirandaBonneville]

@@Pickledlimbs yeah… imagine if it was a man with DID who killed a woman. It wouldn’t matter if the woman was sexually assaulting the man; he would most likely not get as severe a sentence simply because he was getting assaulted.

[@Idontexist1111]

its so funny how actual predators who torture women get punishment for only 5 to 12 years but when a victim kills their predator they will sentenced them to 50 years

[@emilycampbell5798]

Shows you how many predators are in seats of power. Our world is f^cked

[@amaka7780]

This case makes me sick to my stomach. The justice system is f^cked

[@CHERYLee-s6r]

He was sick and mentally abusive. People don’t realize how much sexual abuse is a child rape as an adult and not having family members to rely on. She never had a chance to be a child. She never had a chance at all.

[@Sumivampireprincessss]

Yes how can we blame her when she went through all that and never got help it makes me angry how she's continually demonised

[@zeldaxninja3214]

Yh i agree, it made her wanna kill ppl, wish she had a greater fam, my mother would care for her tbh

[@crestm1384]

He took advantage of her vulnerability. Used her for his own sick twisted desires. It's disgusting that the judge didn't allow the evidence of his deviant behavior. It points to what kind of environment she was in on a daily basis. Her environment influenced her mental state. The human mind will do things to protect itself and with the amount of trauma she suffered for years from multiple people just hit the breaking point. She needed to get the help she should have gotten long ago not just be put in jail. I'm glad that she's getting some help while in jail but I just hope that at sometime, hopefully soon, that she gets the help she truly needs.

[@charissa6648]

I had severe childhood abuse, neglect, then married an abuser, but I never skinned animals or stabbed someone to the point of decapitation. I also never received nose jobs, or plastic surgery from my abusers. She is evil and sick, just like her abuser. What he did was grotesque, but I don't follow purity culture. Where her whole like is over now because someone violated her. Like she is worthless, and its over. Her life is more valuable than that. But you seem to believe she was damned from the start. Which is so disturbing to me. Like women are only valued if they are pure, once spotted its over. Screw that! What happened to her was horrific, but she also had the mental capacity to walk out of his house. She had the opp to walk away. You will never convince me that she was being held hostage. And I know about brainwashing thats not what I am talking about. Both things can be true. She could be a victim and also evil. How dare you excuse this disgusting, inhumane and deplorable behavior because she was a victim. How offensive toward victims. There are millions of people who've suffered worse. I personally know ppl who make her childhood look like a trip to Disneyland, but they never used their trauma as an excuse to commit heinous crimes or skin helpless animals. People who were raped by their parents and passed around to older men. Gang raped...no. She could've not become a murder. I will never buy into the abusers narrative that the rest of my life has to carry the pain from what they did to me, and I have no choice about my future..the same lies abusers sat. NOPE. She is sick. She is evil and sicko who was at one point a helpless child victim.

[@louiseb6111]

Am I reading this 👆 wrong or is it just written wrong?! 🤷🏼‍♀️😬🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[@Your_local_Blink]

How did someone that literally SA-ed a kid multiple times only get 5 years with parole, but someone killing for self-defense, get 50 years in prison. Man, i sure do love the legal system.

[@loucipher7782]

because there is no self defense option lol court just threw the entire question on Harold character out so its not possible to proof self defense i dont know how is that even legal to begin with

[@diegochavez6203]

Because they have to protect pedos in jail but make money off other inmates

[@barbaragenshin9848]

​@@loucipher7782 ikr

[@JamilaJinx]

Probably because it was premeditated by her poisoning him and stabbing him if she did it in passion she probably would of got less time

[@wrongturnVfor]

self defence? She didnt prove that case. Its all sself reported. Along with the SA as a child. Imagine if she just lied about it. How much worse it is locking someone up for something they didn't do and destroying their life and reputation. I don't believe her one bit. And I do 100% support taking all victims seriously. But some people just reek of BS. Like this one does. She has all the criteria of a cold blooded serial killer and none of actual DID. The sheer amount of shit in her car that she decided to run away with, the history of violence, the obsession with serial killers, googling how to hurt animals and practicing on them- she was grooming herself to be a serial killer. Victims don't get "urges" and "itches" and don't kill out of curiosity. She literally confessed everything straight up and then this story comes out when she talks to her psychiatrist. DID is pretty easy to fake with the help of a psychiatrist and very convenient with all those lapses in memory. very similar to how killers have used "fugue states" as defence in the past. Its all BS. If she were living with her parents, she would have done this to them. She needs to be locked up for the rest of her life for the safety of the community. Regardless of everything else, a person who believes all men are evil and must be deleted, and runs around with an "itch" is a serial killer in the making. Its the same kind of BS we heard from male serial killers back in the day with mommy issues who has misogyny as a brain rot. With her its feminazism. The exact same thing having the exact same effect on female psyche. And it is stupid to defend her just like it was stupid of people fawning all over ted Bundy back in the day

[@SparklerBlack]

"he tried to fix her" with fucking drugs??? its disgusting. its outrageous that they didint say what the "victim" did to her and not only to her. its fucked up.

[@SparklerBlack]

@@Flamsterette lol, no its not. im not a native english speaker and i dont intend to use stupid apostrophes because some pedantic asshole on the internet have a problem with it.

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@Flamsterette go away

[@Newjeansfan13]

Stfu and get out of here, its nott school ​@@Flamsterette

[@loucipher7782]

@@Flamsterette can you go out?

[@Flamsterette]

@@loucipher7782 Going out is overrated.

[@c.frankie.g]

As someone with DID, I can understand this case better than most. My alters do not present as often as they do for Sarah, but I can understand her inner struggle between them, having to "listen" to their arguing inside her mind. I expressed once to my psychiatrist that I was terrified of one of my alter's doing something terrible, but she doubted that would happen as we were already out of the terrible situation that might cause for it. Now we work together and I rarely have blackouts of memory. When I used to not be in control, it wasn't even always like we were in a bus all fighting for control and sometimes watching from afar. There were times where it felt like I was tied up in the trunk, no idea of what might have happened on the outside.

[@Hopie_T]

That was injustice after injustice. Male predators in other stories who have done VILE things get 5-10 years but she gets 50 for wanting to be free of her abuser?

[@doodahgurlie]

Makes you wonder if that judge is also a sexual predator or protecting them. Fifty effing years?!? Seriously?? And yet they let others go after 10-20 years who'll continually commit some type of crime again and again.

[@Hopie_T]

@@doodahgurlie And to not be allowed to bring his actions into court at all? When his actions were the direct cause for his murder? When she's almost definitely not the first person he has hurt. No! If anything I think she deserves a medal for taking out this predator. And I mean yeah, why 50 years? Are there signs she's going to hurt anyone else? I didn't see any. Some of the alters are even remorseful. But sadly I think you're right. There are many predators in the legal system who make it their mission to let other predators off the hook or even avenge them in some cases because they relate so much to them.

[@if6299]

I'm just at the beginning of the video but scrolled down to the comments and saw the 50 fucking years sentence. It makes my head spin and I feel sick!!!

[@FeralJesters]

As someone with Complex DID, she should not be in prison. She should be in a medical facility for her and her system to receive treatment and trauma work

[@Adam-326]

Either way, out of our society.

[@ValerieChristinaAnn]

It doesn’t matter I think she shouldn’t be in jail

[@janie2103]

@@Adam-326 Do feel good about yourself when you talk about other humans like this?

[@HARUKANAKAMURA18]

​@@Adam-326 are you like that predator?? You should be in jail too if you like these crimes

[@Adam-326]

@@janie2103 The fact that you support what happened to that man means that the mere fact that someone is “human” has no bearing on these decisions. My point was simple. She’s not fit to remain in society.

[@minnieminah]

this case pissed me off so fucking much. i hate that sexual abusers and pedophiles are always protected. why are women and girls never protected?

[@loucipher7782]

because the world is rule by men its just that simple they had to keep sex offense minimal punishment because they are practicing it themselves dont want a harsh sentence when it comes to them do they now lol

[@Blakenew127]

Right? And when they start to get SOME rights and awareness to achieve said protection, after literal centuries of pushing for legal help, a bunch of sexist men that never care about any victims are like WELL WHAT ABOUT MEN THAT ARE VICTIMS They don’t give a f* they just want to create a distraction to change the subject or make it feel that talking about the injustice female victims face is to offend potential male victims out there. A passive aggressive way ti manipulate us into silence. As if the moviment we are seeing pro women/girls now wasn’t the result of VERY hard work and blood of generations fighting. No one gave it to us. Also, feminists groups are the 1st ones to point out how se.xual assault is destructive to ANY gender and bring the mindset of improving the way all victims are treated. A little education also protects us from this bs that only means to keep enabling violence against women/girls for longer.

[@CaroDuran29]

I hate this fucking world for this reason

[@saaramohamed8921]

he was protected even when he was dead... I'm flabbergasted

[@loucipher7782]

@@saaramohamed8921 must protect that good christian man

[@feralhomunculus]

I cried when you said that Sarah is working for Pooches & Pals now. I think because it was the first postive thing I've heard in her story. I have cptsd from childhood trauma and I became a dog trainer in my 20s. It saved my life. It's the most gratifying thing I've ever done. You're not just helping the dogs, which is amazing, but you're also helping people so much. I hope she can find peace and happiness.

[@jennip605]

How can she have the "right to a fair trial", when her Reason for committing her crime is inadmissible in Court?

[@TourettesMajestic]

Welp now I’m too depressed to finish this episode 😅

[@laurierice7687]

Terrible lawyer. Let her sign to never appeal? With the jury not seeing 1/2 the evidence? This case could have appealed on many levels. The whole situation is horribly sad.

[@maximum_bird]

It's so ridiculous to me that they didn't include the details of her motive.

[@rayvengoodman3120]

This Department of Justice is a joke. It's all a scam. You're not even innocent until proven guilty, especially if you're in a state like Oklahoma that has a "Jailbirds" newspaper where an innocent person will have their mugshot printed out and sent to the masses so that everyone can judge based upon appearance whether or not that person might be guilty. Let me get started on detainment before an investigation based on circumstantial "evidence".

[@jennip605]

@@maximum_bird such a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE "deal" for her

[@catalinaplaza7909]

Unpopular opinion, but how is killing in self defense, for people in a hopeless situation, punished so hard?

[@julireep278]

They weren't allowed to even present the case as self-defense! The JUDGE wouldn't allow anything to be said in court about the things he did to her 😡

[@eldupont3095]

legally, it's not considered self defense. self defense would need him to be coming at her threateningly, her to be in fear for her life, AND her having no other options. the law would say "she could have drugged him with the ambien and run away."

[@ah-sh9dw]

Because it wasn't self defense. She could've left without doing that. I don't think it should be murder but it isn't self defense

[@mikwolf2236]

@@ah-sh9dw and gone where? Done what? Bffr, if someone is constantly abusing you you're always acting under self defense

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@mikwolf2236 same place she went after k*lling him. Eldupont up there is right, he wasn't coming at her threateningly, because he was unconscious, and although she might've felt like it was her only choice, it wasn't. She literally could've done the exact same thing she did but without that one step. We probably should have laws that give severe abuse victims a pass but it's not really self defense

[@miran289]

I cried when I found out the real reason she hid her father's key... I cried when I learned about the fact that her brain needed to make those alters to cope with all that trauma... and when she wrote the word freedom on the wall... and then when she got 50 years in prison... She's just a lost child how can the world be so cruel and how can one judge be so merciless!

[@Maruzzela-l1u]

S@ t@ nists and steeple?

[@santsi7306]

What? ​@@Maruzzela-l1u

[@gmom525]

Your cohost is a keeper. His reactions are perfect, his questions smart and are often exactly what I am wondering.

[@belbel69]

its her husband!

[@roglacken]

I was professionally diagnosed with DID in Dec of 2020 and I just want to say thank you for explaining it in a way that is the most accurate that I have ever heard. We are not murderers, the anti-christ, unicorns, cats, dragons, or anything else. Most of the time is spent trying to figure out where the light switches are in the house we own and have lived in for 7 years. Or spending an hour trying to figure out what we want to eat (some want PB&J, some want a burger, 1 is vegan, etc...) We also have a journal that we use on the computer that we check daily. Through medication and therapy, we have learned to acknowledge when a switch is coming (tingling in the face, lips, fingers, toes, or sometimes it's a painful headache on one side of the head). We also have system communication, mostly, so everyone gets a say. Thank you again.

[@rebeccat7912]

Thank you for sharing your personal experience with this! I’ve only met one person with DID, and it’s something I continue to want a better understanding of.

[@DarkJuliet_4444]

As someone with BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) it is interesting to meet someone with DID. I know it sounds weird but as someone who struggled with never having a true sense of self/an identity its interesting to meet someone who might also know what its kinda like being a bit of an outlier from the norm. Either way I'm happy that you are doing well. Treatment can be a tough journey but in the end it is a worth it to see how far you've come ftom the start of your journey

[@wassermelonification]

that is so wholesome, I hope the vegan one keeps y'all healthy and y'all live in a peaceful communication and democracy with each other

[@pollyhelman4960]

I have DID too. There used to be alot of destructive behavior that harmed the body. We formed like a council and I’m the sort of like the president. We have rules. We have our different roles and we vote on stuff. You’re the first I’ve met that mentioned devising a similar system, for lack of a better term. Our journal is the camera phone and we have Apple playlists both for each of us and shared. Sometimes there’s songs I don’t remember putting on there when somebody wants to be sneaky. It’s good to hear others coming out and talking about their experiences. I hid this for nearly 30 years.

[@katiem5415]

Sorry if this is insensitive, but I’m curious, does it make more sense for you to use “we” rather than “I” because of your DID? Can you explain why this feels more comfortable for you? I’m just curious, but if it’s rude pls let me know.

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

I met a girl at the dr office she had a service dog and was very friendly talking about him so I asked what he was for out of curiosity. She said she had 8 people in her DID thats how she explained it. She said the dog is trained to let her know when it’s coming on and to guide her home or somewhere so she doesnt become lost. Some personalities of hers are young or old or just very confused when they come forward and get lost. It’s interesting I didnt know service dogs can help people with DID. She did say he was expensive about 20,000 to train.

[@thewitchofsloth]

Oh god service dogs are SO freaking expensive…and DID is terrifying to live with..

[@resinartbycatherine6314]

That's a beautiful thing stop that an animal can be there to help her❤

[@koul3709]

Very sadly, it has come to my attention that it is not atypical for people to abuse their service animal, for example, when they are undergoing a psychotic episode. This makes me so SAD, seeing as I used to raise service animals myself. I think this is an industry that needs deep regulation. Dogs don’t deserve to be abused either 🥲

[@thewitchofsloth]

@@Littlestaxolotl That’s incredibly relatable. Rest in peace to your fur baby/little helper 🥺

[@ande100]

That is actually cheap! Some service dogs run $50.000 - $75.000.

[@sherriv4860]

The harold guy was definitely a predator. Who gives a teenager drugs? He definitely SA'ed her, made her alter her body, and held a debt over her. What a bad experience to be in. I feel like life has failed Sarah and I am sorry for it.

[@loucipher7782]

she shouldnt even be alone living outside at that age how is she not living with her family or sister her elder sister seems to be doing fine smh...

[@maratwasnthere1075]

Honestly this...The way they glossed over how a 50 year old man who had this girl from the age of 17 living with him body modifications is so alarming.

[@Roboboyjinx]

I’m not sure if you’d ever see this, but I’d LOVE if you guys covered Jeni Haynes story. She is a woman with DID who successfully put her abusive father that gave her DID in prison YEARS after the fact, and multiple of her parts/alters/headmates came out and testified in such detail (due to the fact that some parts still felt like they were experiencing the abuse) and he ended up pleading guilty and getting put in jail. It’s honestly such a truly amazing story while being equally heartbreaking for what she went through. She’s got a book(The Girl in the Green Dress) that she wrote herself as well as a documentary for 60 Minutes Australia.

[@xx9aznfaith9xx]

I was about to comment this! Her story is so interesting and would love for Stephanie to cover it also!

[@neonstream6935]

How isn’t this self defence? If you are consistently being assaulted you will come to assume that, that person consistently assaulting you will act accordingly…ssooo if you kill them because you KNOW they will hurt you again…how is that not ALWAYS self defence?

[@JubbysDragons]

In cases like this. It's because it wasn't during an assault. She had planned to do it. Unfortunately... The laws have specifics :((

[@wiwiholic]

Exactly!! ​@@JubbysDragons

[@charissa6648]

Because there was no threat of bodily harm that's why. This chic is psycho. Its disturbing how many ppl think Because she may have been a victim, it excuses her partially decapitating another human being. Noone will convince me this girl should ever be out of prison. And I personally think people who justify this crime are just as off in the head or being emotionally manipulated. She was fantasizing about murdering people. Practicing on small animals, before she finally moved on to a person. It takes a special kind of evil to stab someone period, let alone severing their head from their body. Its awful what she's been through, but both things can be true. She can be a victim and an evil person. Sorry, I think anyone who thinks this girl fantasizing about murdering ppl, needs to stay where she is.

[@rachel4339]

@@JubbysDragonsfortunately*

[@woahhal]

@@rachel4339with this case. unfortunately.

[@mysticloverfairy1]

It sounds like Harold’s family either has no idea what Harold was truly like or even worse they know ,but were in deep denial about it.

[@shainafullerton2433]

considering it became public knowledge, they're in denial

[@Tatycharmz]

exactly and his daughter even saying anything, lie girl dont embaress yourself i wouldnt even want tobe involvedin ANY way. second he did that to himself he chose to be sick and not to ever justify harming anyone this is self defense not some random attack, i hope his daughter learns that she didnt loose him just some idea or facade he may have had w certain people or family obvoiusly hes not a good person.

[@sharingyourexperiences5305]

Orrrrr - now hear me out - it’s a family affair

[@jenmiranda13]

Best case scenario they're in denial. Otherwise they're lying even though they're fully aware of everything that happened, might have even contributed to his behavior, and don't want to be held accountable

[@blueberrysmoothie]

Clearly in denial. I don't understand how Harold's daughter, who is close in age to Sarah, didn't find it creepy that Harold moved a girl into his home and was giving her money for a nose job and but implants... like wtf. Most normal ppl would agree that if their father did that, they'd be creeped out af and you'd find it SUPER weird + the rumors that there was a sexual relationship... I feel sick just thinking about this hypothetical.

[@Belliqua]

Already listened to this on the podcast: for anyone worried, Stephanie covers DID and the victim with an immense amount of respect. Thanks for doing such a great job.

[@CaseyMarie11-11]

We're people worried? I guess I've just been here long enough now,to know that she always does 💜

[@LyricAndCompany]

​@CaseyMarie11-11 99% of the time DID is portrayed in media, it's a clusterfuck that plays into stereotypes, makes us seem crazy and dangerous, or has mountains of misinformation. Even a lot of the Spotify comments were talking about Split as though its a good resource for DID. I don't think of it as a slight against Steph to be worried, systems are just so often misrepresented that the distrust is warranted

[@crumpkit]

oh my god thank you,, i didn't think she'd do anything to disrespect us but im still a tad bit worried

[@tinyaxes]

Exactly my thoughts when I read the title on Spotify, I had to wait a few hours before diving in. Usually for her episodes I can literally dissociate and not be triggered but I was so worried DID would be demonized in this case. I do love when she used disclaimers for certain topics too and says something along the lines of "This is gonna be heavy so do some self care and I'll see you in the next one" bc it helps a ton.

[@MoonPack01985]

I have DID and it is so rare to hear someone talk about a case with it so well. ❤ Thank you for really trying to understand it and not further the continuous issues made through media. It is so nice to feel propperly understood. ❤

[@notjustanotherbrickinthewall]

50 years in jail for a victim is insane! She needs mental treatment not jail! I feel so bad for her. Murder is not the answer, let her do some time, but also get her mental treatment! Such injustice.

[@rbwblz]

EXACTLYY

[@debcevans]

i am a retired therapist. I have had three DID clients. There is so much that I could share, but Sarah's alters did what they thought they needed to do to protect the system. That is very common. And with regard to integration, some times systems spontaneously integrate, once all all of the alters have shared their stories and feel safe.

[@jakdelaney3606]

Thankyou, I was trying to pinpoint the integration, one I remember exceptionally well, others faded, 2 still with me so I try to never drink. I'm 60 and I'd like to thank you for mentioning this because it took many years and is an ongoing process......unfortunately I spend a lot of time alone but two of us share flat and help each other ......so so much involved, the flippant, heartless comments break my heart, unless you have lived it you cannot possibly know and where the hell were the parents?...... why all the wrath directed at the child? There is a special place in hell for these monsters, and yes,the family knew, they always do. Men can be sickening along with the women who stand by them 🙄 😒 I will keep praying for you girl, this is one I will never forget ❤️

[@missmorla1339]

DID seem to all have Protectors, have your clients had Torturers?

[@midnightzxne]

@@missmorla1339I’m no expert but I wouldn’t think so because the whole point of DID is to protect the individual body from being hurt again

[@didyoujust7810]

I have known I have had DID for 10 years now, and it's a slow healing process. We have been in and out of therapy and have decent communication and control by now. We are currently going through another spontaneous integration right now, and it's so disorientating and seems like a massive step back, but I know it's going to get better. It's such a misunderstood mental condition that it's a pain to explain to people, and telling people also makes you more vulnerable. So we don't tell anyone unless theyre close and need to know because they'll find out eventually (partner for example) and only if we know 1000% that they're safe to tell. We've been abused too many times to be vulnerable again.

[@didyoujust7810]

​​​@@missmorla1339In my experience and what I know of other systems, sometimes there will be abusive alters called 'persecutors', but it's usually self-inflicted and will usually hurt their own body to hurt the other alters, or attempt self-exit. It's pretty rare that someone with DID will attack or abuse or kill someone else, they're much more likely to be a victim, and I'd even say they're much less likely than a neurotypical person to hurt or kill someone. But at the end of the day, it's still possible, because we're still human. Just look up legitimate cases of people with DID committing murder, you'll be hard pressed to find many that aren't just normal people lying to try and claim insanity and get an easier sentence. Even though having DID does not make you insane, and actually prisons for mentally ill people are apparently harder to be released from anyways. So I don't understand why people lie about it and try to use it as a defense.

[@boudicca272]

I absolutely love the childhood trauma "glass cup" analogy. I played it 3x. It is such an amazing analogy. It even explains so much more than just d.i.d. It explains a lot of disordered behavior that we experience in adulthood.

[@candiceannmichelle5021]

I have PTSD from my childhood and this helped me understand myself alot too As unless I'm in a flashback I can't remember my childhood

[@thesmokesys]

As a system ourselves I (the person fronting/driving the bus at the moment) love the bus analogy because being a system feels like driving a bus with people in the back seats and getting pushed out of the driver seat when something happens for example something stressful or traumatic - also thank you for being so open to learning about DID and systems overall because soooooo many people are dismissive

[@emmanarotzky6565]

That’s so creepy that her mom just told her she was too loud when she was running away from a rapist. I’m also confused about how he got to her whenever her dad wasn’t home… was her mom home? Could she lock herself in her house? Was her mom making her leave the house regularly and she just couldn’t say anything because the rapist threatened to kill her?

[@MariLionheart]

Neglectful parent

[@Echokeres]

Probably high

[@eldupont3095]

she probably made her go outside and play so that she could talk on the phone in peace and then he would grab her or wtv; who knows why she couldn't play in her room

[@Tatycharmz]

righ!! and wasnt their signs and why usnt she consoling her daughter?? i wonder whats wrong with her. what about her clooths and letting her come back naked like wtf no way shes that stupid i wonder if the dad knew too. and she didnt take her to a doc or check her like whats upwith that.

[@jenmiranda13]

I think her dad might not have seen the obvious signs since he was at work but the mom is neglectful enough that the neighbor could have been in the same room and the mom might not even notice as long as she can't hear what's happening to her daughter. Even as a sister I feel protective enough of my siblings that I don't want to leave them alone with men that I'm not familiar with. I'm not close to my siblings due to my personality AND the age gap (I'm the oldest) but if I don't feel comfortable with a stranger whenever we're out in public, I stick close to my siblings (especially my sisters since they're on the youngest side. My brother is the second oldest and closest to me in age) Even if I seem like I'm not paying attention to my siblings when we're home alone. I am listening. I make sure that they're not doing anything dangerous and I let them be while I stay in my room. The moment I hear something strange, I check it out 😅

[@InHoshiWeTrust]

Edit: I was corrected on this. Steph is using scare quotes, hope people know that’s what lots of people do in this context! For those who are mad at Steph for putting the word abuser in quotes, she legally has to. If he wasn’t convicted someone (next of kin or whoever close) could sue her for defamation.

[@sukizukiie]

Ohh thx so much I saw some comments being rude about it so she removed the quotes 🥲

[@ManiyaVinas]

Thanks to Johnny depp

[@Flamsterette]

@@sukizukiie Punctuation is a good idea here.

[@InHoshiWeTrust]

@@ManiyaVinas …..no this has always been a thing.

[@morph3301]

Ok but this is exactly what it is then? Its defamation...

[@Q-ed9dc]

This poor girl acted in self-defense. The only person who would truly understand Sarah's state of mind and why she felt she had no choice but to either self exit or put down that animal is someone who has experienced fault trauma beginning in childhood. Abusers, if ever convicted, are incarcerated for a couple of years. Victims suffer for the rest of their lives. It never changes; it never subsides. Yes, and some do spend the rest of their lives never leaving their homes; some never leaving the room in which they feel safest. Their lives are spent in that room. The rest of the house is simply to hold stuff. It's a very lonely, empty life, and there's only one way out. The only question is when?

[@jakdelaney3606]

You just described my life 😢

[@danaallen8465]

Yes, I know all to well. Victims caring the burden on their backs forever. You might get to a point in which you can carry on, but it never truly goes away, it’s continuously lurking nearby just to rear its ugly head whenever it feels the need. And, you’re right, predators always get little to no time while someone who’s acting in self defense gets life. There’s a case of a woman who was brutally beaten by her husband on almost a daily basis. He threatened her with a gun on numerous occasions, but when she had enough and shot him because no one not even the police would help her, she received another sentence. She lived a sentence when she was living with her husband daily, when she finally broke those chains, they turn around and put more on her.

[@beerlahai]

I was SAed when I was 9 to 11 by an uncle. It caused problems the rest of my life! I’m now 70 and it ruined intimacy between my husband and myself because of the flashbacks. Men always crossed the line even in the adult years. Still to this day I do not feel comfortable being alone in a room with a man besides by husband.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaayeahidk]

Only 15 minutes in so far but I just wanted to take a second and acknowledge how respectful your being about DID!! It’s really refreshing to see such a stigmatized disorder talked about with grace and an attempt at understanding

[@phoenixxena8194]

How messed up.. that she feels safe in PRISON. How bad the society has failed her. My heart and prayer for you, sweety baby girl. May future life treat you better. May you find strength and hope to move on.

[@sumivampireprincess]

Amen 😢 such a sad reality we live in

[@raisanka.]

Stephanie, your explination of DID was incredibly well said and I am incredibly thankful that you would even take the time to make a segment to disclaim certain things about DID let alone almost 20 minutes to go so in depth. One of my biggest anxieties when I saw this on my home page was that this would further the harmful stereotype that 'Split' gave to DID, but if anything, it did the exact opposite. I have no words genuinely to explain how thankful and happy I feel for that segment alone. Thank you so much.

[@CaseyMarie11-11]

💜 I didn't know anything about DID until I saw this video. I appreciate her taking the time to explain it thoroughly 💜

[@Anna-vl2ni]

I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a survivor of childhood abuse but I felt so seen by the movie split. It didn’t make me stereotype ppl with DID. And I took the animal part as dramatic fiction. The way the actors facial features changed per persona just floored me! (In a good way) and again I felt seen as a survivor when he could decipher survivors from others.❤

[@raisanka.]

@@Anna-vl2ni the only real issue i've had and i think many others mainly had with it was the whole "evil alter bit". we have nonhuman headmates ranging from the fantasy-esc of being dead, gods, as well as fully animalistic ones, so i never really had an issue with that, because each nonhuman alter is different in their own way. it was just the evil-ization so to speak of persecutors that branded them as evil alters

[@mogen5720]

As an adult hearing this, this is so heartbreaking. I can't imagine how it made her feel when she was young and when she was an adult. Fighting and protecting yourself is a form of self defense, it shouldn't be a crime. 😢

[@ManiyaVinas]

Yall say this but still insist on giving birth

[@Murreez]

@@ManiyaVinas what is even the point of your reply.

[@whoIikegaf5]

@@Murreez ragebait. only attention they're used to getting is disappointment they're just expanding their horizons.

[@respectthefish4992]

and Allisa was protecting other alters to add, she literally was scared either she ends the abuser or Vanessa ends them (the system), she chose freedom for all of them and they only had it for 1 week T_T

[@Kaeelush]

@@whoIikegaf5wow 10/10 read

[@cryptidink]

I haven't finished the video yet, but so far, as someone with DID you explained it so respectfully and well, thank you.

[@gypsyfox3285]

So the thought of letting my daughter at that age (or any age as a child) anywhere near a neighbor man alone, or alone AT ALL is UNTHINKABLE to me. I am horrified by the thought of it. Her parents are worthless.

[@drgskates]

I love how victim-blaming is such a common thing. Abusers are allowed to mentally and physically abuse their victims, but the moment the victim manages to "get out," and it's not the "right" way, we get to watch a whole discourse that mimics how the USA views protesting. It's okay to do it, just "not like that." And what they really mean is, "Just die. Stop making us uncomfortable. This doesn't affect us. Ew. Go away." The same people that say, "omg. What happened to Junko and Yuna was terrible." Are the same people saying, "Well, she didn't have to *kill* them to get away."

[@Blakenew127]

Perfectly said.

[@Blakenew127]

Perfectly said.

[@sumivampireprincess]

I agree

[@darenaivanova864]

😂😮😂 1:48:08

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

Her attorneys screwed up so bad. Why the hell did they not include a self-defense argument at trial.

[@syzygy4365]

The judge would not allow "the victim" of this case to be decimated. Huge mistake on the judges part. Sarah's attorney couldn't defend defend her. This whole case should be thrown out as a miss trial.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

@@syzygy4365 That ruling was correct, because there was no legal way to bring in character evidence against him under an insanity defense. Had her attorney put forth a self-defense argument, all of that evidence would have been permitted under law. Was not the judge’s fault, they have to obey the laws of evidence. The fault was on the attorney for failing to know the law & attempting to introduce evidence improperly.

[@CaroDuran29]

​@@Gaius_SinstoneI have seen tons of cases like this. And you are right, it's not on the judge part, it's on the attorney's side. But why 50 years???

[@KimberTheBartender...]

THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS LOOKING INTO PEER REVIEWED OR PEER SUPPORT!!!! I recently became a Certified Peer Recovery Supporter (I take my final exam soon) and more attention needs to be brought to the amount of help that can come from our peers whom have "lived experiences" I wish there was peer support when i was younger and struggling. Im thankful that I'm hopefully going to help others so they dont have to make the same mistakes/choices that just added to my trauma. I didnt go to a top university and read this stuff from a book, i actual lived it and survived it. Im giving my pain a purpose by helping others❤

[@samanthagzmn]

My heart breaks for that little girl. Coming home and not being able to communicate the horrors she went through. 😭

[@mikrokosmosis_]

What I find astonishing is why didn't the judge allow any statements showing Harold's character to the jury. Especially because it's an important part of why Sarah did what she did, regardless of DID.

[@doodahgurlie]

Judge is likely a predator himself or protecting men whom are. The trial does not make sense and was all around an injustice to her.

[@onii_na4141]

predators are protected by the system, even after death

[@LuFerreira8787]

I have been diagnosed with DID by multiple psychiatrists. I appreciate the hard work you did here to understand and explain the disorder. Thank you.

[@monicaalire3783]

Shout Out to EVRRYBODY that is involved with making these videos. Yall put soo much detail into these cases and make it so easy to understand. I could never tell a story they way you do, Stephanie. Yall are appreciated Peace and Love ❤

[@chillyhousecos2193]

As someone who has DID, I was terrified that this would be such a bad outcome but I love how Steph explained everything (she tends to always make sure that people are educated about what mental/physical disorders or illnesses that are in the case). This case is so upsetting because the whole system was trying to escape from these years of abuse/ SA. My heart goes out to them deeply

[@fragolata]

I also enjoy Stephanie’s videos. She and her team always make sure to have a neutral view on it and how something functions !! And I think DID is very interesting but also often misunderstood or viewed wrongly :(

[@chillyhousecos2193]

@@fragolata FR!!

[@andy_4n6]

Longtime viewer w/ DID associated w/ surviving childhood trafficking. It means a great deal to see your effort for sensitivity and words against stigma. Thank you!

[@spiritkittytarot]

Hope you are doing well now!!

[@wrenpeach6707]

Wishing you peace, health, and happiness for the rest of your life ❤

[@davidjones8043]

Ohhh you found a safe space, sugar cup?

[@anonimus8375]

​Calling her an infantiling name after she talks about abuse in childhood is gross. Even without the general grossness of using those stupid terms with a complete adult and "sugar cup"? Ew. ​@@davidjones8043

[@BaobhanloreArt]

The fact he knew her since she was underage and only waited until she was eighteen tells me he would have started younger if it was legal.

[@jordanstroop4269]

You're absolutely correct. My step father started 2 WEEKS after I turned 18. It started with the backrubs "to be helpful" (I severe back issues and back when it was innocent he was the only one that could do it right to relieve my pain.) He later told me that when i was younger that I used to make him hard and he'd be jealous when I had a boyfriend. As well as when I confronted him about what he was doing to me his response was "I thought you wanted it." Yeah okay. Keep thinking that bud. My mom is still married to him, knows what happened and blames me. 🙃🙃

[@jordanstroop4269]

Oh and I met him when I was 7..

[@analaurareyes7738]

@@jordanstroop4269disgusting 😰😤… what a horrible experience! I hope you feel ok right now!!

[@jordanstroop4269]

@@analaurareyes7738 I appreciate your words, thank you. And no I'm not okay but it is what it is. Life sucks and then you d*e. Haven't seen him or spoken to him since May 2017. My mom's contact picture for him in her phone is a picture of him and I when I was 16. She still tells him she loves him. I've seen the messages. She has her messages come to her computer and one time she was showing me something and a message popped up on her computer from him that said "I love you TOO". meaning she said it and he responded. She neglected us for another man that she's still with today and so f*xkface saw his opportunity and took it. And she blames me for it saying "you slept with him to hurt me" yep you've got it all figured out! 🙄🙄 but conveniently forgets the time she walked in on him with my pants pulled down while I'm barely awake instead of getting ready for work, not once but twice! In the same morning! The only thing she asked me was if I was his girlfriend... I WAS ASLEEP!! She denies that ever happening now. Okay. You got it. You've blamed me for everything my entire life including being born and what that did to you body so I guess I'll take the blame for this too. What's one more thing right? If you're still reading this, I'm sorry. Im sorry for the trauma dump, didn't mean to make this comment thread about me. Just wanted shed light on what the OP said, they're absolutely correct. Sorry..

[@jordanstroop4269]

@@analaurareyes7738 he blames me too and so because of that she believes him over me.

[@bonnieglenn663]

I'm only a few minutes in and already in tears. I have DID. I'm still learning. And I cannot tell you how difficult it is. You are already doing an excellent job at explaining something that feels so unexplainable. I have not found anyone whom I can speak with about this who cares to understand it at all and it's heartbreaking and lonely. I don't even leave the house anymore. I'm a shell of the person I used to be. I wish I could sit with someone like you who is intelligent and curious. I think it would make a world of difference. Watching this feels like therapy. Therapy I've never had before and I've been in therapy since I was 7. I'm 43. I was diagnosed at age 40. Thank you💖

[@amnotkt956]

I am a traveling nurse and I’ll never forget the experience I had with a patient who was in her late 70s who had DID. If you took care of her on a daily basis then you would be able to recognize and distinguish each identity. I remember one day, I knocked on her door to administer her medication and she would wear this huge black hoodie, her hoodie would always be up and she would do her makeup. She would always apply an excessive amount of dark blue eyeshadow up to her eye brows and she would dress like this every-time she was in her “teenager” identity. Her teenager identity would dress different, act completely different almost like a 16 year old trapped in a 75+ body, her voice was different, her hand writing was different, and she would at first be reluctant to talk to “authority-like” figures aka the nursing staff until she got to know you overtime. She also had a “child, aged 6 years old” identity named suszie (she would say she was 6) The first time I recognized this identity was when I noticed she would always play with stuff animals, dolls, loved fluffy cats, and she would always talk about her kitty cats. She would have moments where she would question why she was always surrounded by a “bunch of old people.” (She lived in a nursing home). She had a more high-pitch voice when she would speak. She had several identities but those were the two I could easily recognize. Her awful, heart-wrenching traumatic experience happened when she was a child, her father had gang raped her multiple times with his friends that he would also invite over. It’s so sad ): she passed away years ago and I just hope she’s at peace.

[@luciasss457]

🥺🙏🏼

[@doodahgurlie]

😢

[@suwenbrunot610]

I am so sorry that your patient went such a horrible experience. May she rest in peace.

[@realist460]

the judge needs to be looked into for dismissing harold's online activities... probably hiding his own searches

[@KittyCat22976]

I had been told by so many mental health professionals throughout my 20’s, that they weren’t qualified to deal with the trauma I had been through. It is The Most gut punching, hopeless feeling. Luckily when I met my now husband, he was so understanding of me that he basically proposed by showing me his insurance coverages (side note: marriage is definitely about Love, but it’s naïve to not also approach it as a business; hence prenups, etc.). I was able to get an excellent psychiatrist, who prescribed me to both a general family therapist, as well as an EMDR specialist who has 1,000% changed my life for the better. I am so grateful to my loving & patient husband!!! We’ve been married almost 10 years now. He always has my back. ❤

[@thystar]

Judges like this needs to be investigated.

[@melrossokahlabs4100]

That's right 💯

[@1_John_2_27]

She had a life sentence when she moved in with that poor excuse for a man/father figure. It's no wonder she feels safer in prison, there's people living out in the world who are more scary/abusive than anyone who's been in prison.

[@Tunes_Teacher]

Stephanie, your “trauma cup” metaphor is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing, and for another awesome video 💖 You rock.

[@lyricbrewer8617]

As someone that has DID im glad this was covered without being steriotyped or rudely

[@tanaplacko975]

comment: posted within 15 mins of release The video: almost 2 hours 👀👀👀

[@Belliqua]

@@tanaplacko975 It's been on Spotify since last Tuesday

[@angelickiwi493]

​@@tanaplacko975 that's what I was thinking 🤣🤣 but maybe they listened to it on Spotify first or something 😬

[@prettiestloner7737]

​@tanaplacko975 Stephanie uploaded the podcast earlier then this one maybe thts where they got it from

[@Flamsterette]

*STEREOTYPED Without being rudely?

[@DaniellaElie-s7b]

As a 3rd year psychology student this is so informative gives me a totally different perspective. Thank you Stephanie!

[@Stinkydinkytrashcan]

I read up on the district attorney charles branson who was the one who gave her 50 years..he has a history of hostility against victims of sexual crimes so hopefully the courts take that into consideration when her parole hearing occurs

[@saaramohamed8921]

charles branson shouldn't be allowed to judge abuse survivors then. her story made me tear up

[@verdorrt]

I was a little worried about the title at first because DID is an extremely serious mental disorder. Throughout media, it has been stigmatized as an extremely bad thing however, it really isn’t. I have a friend who has it and he is the sweetest person ever, along with his alters.

[@thewitchofsloth]

🫂

[@jameliabangura2365]

You’re right

[@jameliabangura2365]

Hopefully you find this video okay and responsible

[@voodooprincess11]

It can be if people are self diagnosing for attention or using it as an excuse for murder. Just saying.

[@shadowthesatanist]

as someone with did I was really mad at the title because I really struggle with things and didn’t even know I had did until a therapist told me. I haven’t finished the video yet but I’m hoping it isn’t as bad as the title is. don’t get me wrong I love this youtube channel but the title is to be desired tbh.

[@dakr3464]

A doctor should never do any body enhancing to a 17 ur old because their body is not done growing 😮

[@pettykittyfam]

EXACTLY 💯 NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE ANY BODY ALTERING PROCEDURES OR TAKE ANY DRUGS THAT WILL PERMANENTLY ALTER THEIR BODY IN THE FUTURE ❤

[@ariej9028]

Not true unfortunately

[@TeethAndEyeballs]

We really need to start holding these doctors accountable, seriously smh

[@A13-m2z]

Yeah, but sadly it is not uncommon for professionals to do purely cosmetics surgeries on minors. In Mexico is not that weird for 15 year old girls to get nose jobs, double chin removals, etc. (At least in the north of Mexico)

[@Miss_Kisa94]

Actually shouldn't it be illegal? She was a minor at the time.

[@JayErland-v2d]

As someone with DID I genuinely thank you for doing the research that you did. There is so much stigma around people like us and I love that you truly tried to understand as much as possible. The comment about the movie Split did make me chuckle because that's what people always think of/say when I tell them about being a system.

[@MrNMrs.Shroom]

My husband has DID. I appreciate how you explained it.

[@AshleyBubbles27]

Mine does too. Same sentiment here🙏

[@OctJean]

My grandmother had DID (her mother, my great grandmother, was very abusive) and was eventually able to integrate… one of her alters was a 4 year old little girl who I played with once right before she integrated when I was about 8 or 9, it was a bizarre interaction!

[@elimsh]

It had to be a crazy situation to live as her grandkid, but, I bet you were amazing and handled the situation with love ♡

[@respectthefish4992]

it surely was bizzare but sounds like a beautiful farewell to the little alter :,))

[@msoda8516]

I was in an in patient woman’s trauma program for ptsd when I was 21. One of the ladies in the group had Dissociative identity disorder it was something I had heard of but didn’t really believe was possible. However after spending 2 weeks with Mary and becoming friends it changed my perspective completely. The human brain in a very complex and complicated thing. It’s ability the protect from trauma is amazing. I think of how I disassociated when I was sexually assaulted allowing me to survive.

[@Flamsterette]

*ITS ABILITY TO

[@msoda8516]

@@Flamsterette I’m a brain tumor survivor after my surgery I lost the ability to read and write for a few months. Sadly a lasting effect is I often make grammar and spelling errors along with sometimes using an incorrect word despite doing my best to proofread I still miss them sometimes.

[@twiceuwuu]

​@@FlamsteretteThis is someone's trauma and you're here correcting Grammar so unnecessary grow up

[@Flamsterette]

@@twiceuwuu Excuse you. Punctuation is extremely important. So is proper typing. YOU grow up.

[@twiceuwuu]

@@Flamsterette No it's not

[@rikkismith]

It’s hard to find people accept and not judge the illness, the fact Stephanie knows what it actually is and even the misconceptions is very satisfying to see. In my opinion Stephanie is so through and on top the research team, it’s one of the big reasons I continuing watching her, she has built a trustworthy reputation with her audience.

[@littlemisslipstick2999]

I'm always extremely troubled when things are hidden from the jury. The grooming of the twins allegations especially. If the defense is speaking to abuse being a major factor in motivations, then the jury should have been able to see the experiences of others.

[@lizf1353]

People are confused how you could look different based on your personality but think of identical twins and how people who know them well can tell them apart easily just by looking at them.

[@NoxxyBoxxy]

As someone thats been diagnosed with DID, Im SO glad that you took your time to explain it correctly and didn't potray it in such an evil horrific way like every other case does, thank you for that 🙏

[@EzioWolf-ed1pg]

I've loved Rotten Mango for so long, and as someone with DID its amazing how well explained DID is throughout this, there is nothing that needs to be added and there is not a drop of misinformation. The cup analogy is such as great way to explain it for the majority.

[@bubblegumbubblezaj]

As someone with DID i appreciate the disclaimer and consulting in people in the DID community 💗 cases like these cause people to see us in a bad light because they dont care to know how it works

[@leiaitri0444]

As a survivor of domestic abuse, child hood molestation and an S. A., I feel for this little girl. It was such an injustice that she was allowed to be portrayed as an insane and crazed murderer while her abuser was not to be allowed to be portrayed in an accurate light. Eighteen is still very young and too young to be emotionally mature enough to deal with everything she was dealing with. Then to be assaulted weekly by someone who's claiming to be a father figure, likely brought up all her past traumas and exasperated them. Not to mention he used his adult brain to manipulate a child and instill fear in her. I think you hit the nail on the head when you stated some feel this is akin to a "version of battered woman's syndrome". I agree, wholeheartedly. I pray she's released before they take her entire life from her by forcing her to serve 50 years in a correctional facility; for a crime which was essentially self defense. The sick part is the man who touched me as a child only got 18 months, so when an adult man assaulted me at 15, I had it handled myself so I knew justice would be served, as I was still angry about the first man only getting 18 months. The laws aren't fair when it comes to women protecting themselves and predators need to be punished far more severely than they are in our current society. The way I see it, once a predator always a predator. That's not something that ever changes. I pray this young lady heals and I truly hope legislature becomes tougher on the way predators are punished and they begin receiving the treatment they deserve. If laws for touching children and assaulting women weren't so lax, maybe more predators would think twice before doing so.

[@miinnoo]

as someone who is diagnosed with did i really appreciate the time and effort you took into explaining and researching the disorder. it is so heavily demonised due to media and movies such as split, so thank you for talking about it before going into the case ❤

[@mishamatch]

I hated that movie Split. It made DID representation so much worse 😒

[@C-SD]

Thank you for handling the DID part of this video the way you did. We get a lot of bad "press".

[@sansmehta]

The way rotten tomato tells these stories leaves me awestruck! No other channel has me hooked like this. I look forward to all these videos because of the sheer storytelling talent. Such a fan 🙌 Love from 🇮🇳

[@eve5226]

Hey! Just wanted to let you know it's rotten mango instead of tomato; also I completely agree!

[@TaliaJacobs-ng6ie]

I think maybe they said tomato cuz maybe they translated from Indian to English but its not a big deal

[@Zoeyy789]

Rotten Tomato?

[@lenasamzelius5530]

I wholeheartedly agree (but it's Rotten Mango 🥭 😅). This channel is always fantastic. Very respectful and caring, with good storytelling, very well done research, Steph as the narrator is perfect and her "co-host" very good as well. They have a very charming and pleasant way to interact. No irrelevant talk, always focused and clear. I am so impressed!

[@Caoline-c8y]

I really enjoy Rotten Mango. I have never heard Stephanie (or her husband) speak disrespectfully on any of the episodes. I had an education today on D.I.D. I had never heard of this disorder in these terms. Thank you R.M. for teaching an older woman something new.

[@gandalfthegrey4694]

I don’t usually comment on vids, but ive been a silent listener on this channel for a long time. As someone who struggles with a mental disorder myself (not DID), i really appreciate how Steph was so respectful when speaking about mental illnesses. The bus analogy in this ep helped me understand DID as an outsider, which is just great communication. Thank you for your empathy and thorough storytelling!

[@MirnaEJiron]

She didn’t make it up. She got abused as a child, and as a young Adult. Wow! She’s a victim of her parents.

[@almightykeem3679]

Whether she had D.I.D or not, she STILL was S-A‘d several times. That’s PTSD at LEAST

[@savannahmae3679]

And this is why evidence should not be left out just because it's controversial.

[@syzygy4365]

Never in a case with potential grooming. Let their character be known. Why are you protecting him when they should be concerned for his next victims.

[@ivylinmoon7211]

Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it

[@How.Bittersweet]

i’ve never heard of this! 😮steph really should cover this case!! id love to hear more about it

[@mysticloverfairy1]

I think she mentioned in her last case that she might cover the case

[@mysticloverfairy1]

​@@How.BittersweetDark Asia another youtube channel covered the case

[@Sumivampireprincessss]

How fucked up is that honestly . And yet we blame the victims like in this case who only try to defend themselves

[@darkdest6664]

steph did cover it a long while ago, but in podcast form, she's been keeping up with the story and if she sees more comments will release an updated video on the topic!

[@vamps8703]

I don't get it how rapists and pedophiles get so low sentences while actual victims get their life in prison

[@4bbb711]

They should burn

[@Cottonball-gz4cr]

Because the judges sympathize with them. Why not give sarah the minimum or 50%parole and 50% sentencing. They didn’t like her because of her illness.

[@raphster3322]

The problem is nowadays a lot of young people are faking having DID for views on tik tok and it makes it harder to believe!

[@melissasabine7064]

I think most people on the internet who say they have it definitely do not.