WHAT WE REALLY THINK ABOUT CRYSTAL'S BOOK with MARSTON HEFNER

GIRLS NEXT LEVEL PODCAST
SEASON 2 EPISODE 36
"WHAT WE REALLY THINK ABOUT CRYSTAL'S BOOK"
WITH SPECIAL GUEST MARSTON HEFNER
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[@gilkanamolina8667]

Marston is so eloquent and articulate. I appreciate the effort of trying to be fair and analytical and also how he can accept that many things can be true at the same time. The podcast is killing it with the guests!

[@jennifercandela181]

He’s amazing

[@AngieHaering]

Agree! He was great! I am so glad they had them back! You can tell he feels comfortable talking with H & B.

[@NicholasS4000]

He is analytically creating his perfect narrative. I don't trust him. He's smart and wellspoken but seems aimed and pointed at one direction and I don't believe his narratives to be fully truthful.

[@EE-uj6tw]

Well spoken??? 😂😂😂 Like,like,like,like within the first 5 minutes

[@elisem1912]

He speaks like an entitled little sht. Literally felt like a victim when somebody didn't hold the door open for him? However, he must have lived a strange childhood.. can't blame him for being weird. I'd definitely sleep with one eye open if I let him sleep on my couch though.

[@maryremchuk2484]

I can’t wait for Bridget’s book! Marston is well spoken and open minded. Holly and Bridget you are both amazing.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

I can’t wait for Bridget’s book, either.

[@kylehollie]

I think it speaks volumes that Marston has been on their pod cast twice now. These two ladies are pretty objective and fair. Holly especially, she tries to say her negative thoughts as politely as possible and I appreciate that.

[@cosodesign8953]

How? it's more interesting for him to be there. I don't think that speaks volumes. I think he is hugh heffners son and they mainly talk about their experiences with his dad. It's a win win for them.

[@cosodesign8953]

How? it's more interesting for him to be there. I don't think that speaks volumes. I think he is hugh heffners son and they mainly talk about their experiences with his dad. It's a win win for them.

[@user-cn6br4rd1n]

@@cosodesign8953 it speaks volume that he willingly has gone on twice now

[@cosodesign8953]

@@user-cn6br4rd1n again how? He barely has any instagram followers and is OF isn’t poppin. It feels more like he’s here to get some exposure for a name that isn’t working that well for him.

[@user-cn6br4rd1n]

@@cosodesign8953 you’ve got a point!

[@angm700]

You KNOW that Crystal will be watching this!! I love when you have Marston as a guest. He's so articulate and interesting to listen to. He's like the big brother stuck in the middle 😆

[@cindrgn]

I hope so and realize how everything she’s been saying out there make her look like an idiot 😅

[@ckpetleo82]

I think she would be burning right now !!!!!!!!

[@minarose3193]

Why is crystal interview w marstons comments hidden?

[@roflitsdani]

She’ll 100% watch it. She’ll see her name and go OOOOO ATTENTION FOR MEEEE🎉

[@ckpetleo82]

She is a weird woman that Crystal. Psychotic vibes.

[@kassierose697]

You can say what you want about Hef, but this guy's mother raised a wonderful man. It goes to show genetics are not everything. It's the upbringing. He has his dad's smarts but his mama raised him to be a perfect gentleman.

[@newbedfordbikes]

This trio is playboy to me.

[@888tearz]

exactly

[@mailennn206]

Same

[@stephaniemabee2830]

I hope he's on here so many more times! I think it would be cool to see him on a 4th of July episode to reflect on how that was when he was growing up since they had the fireworks there!

[@NicholasS4000]

ONLYFANS?????

[@Halseyismyrealname]

they should start their own magazine

[@dela81dela81]

I don't understand how Bridget is 50. There's no way. She looks great.

[@PhilAlumb]

She's beautiful on the inside. Wonderful, genuine personality.

[@melaniegardner9118]

I think Marston's book would be the most intriguing of all. His life is really one in a million.

[@wittlemami]

I was expecting him to be the next Hugh, so I would be so interested in reading his book!!!

[@GG-jiggles]

Have they ever asked him why him or his brother why neither of them became the next Hugh with multiple girlfriends?

[@MorganC.]

Now that's a book I'd totally read

[@BriannaDoesDancing]

tbh i'd read a book by any of his kids

[@sarahjerose1749]

@@melaniegardner9118 For real.

[@baldbicth123]

Marston’s last Uno night is exactly how I feel about Crystal too as an outsider. I don’t dislike her bc I like the other girls, she just exudes weird, bad energy.

[@deecee7042]

Yes! And she has a non-distinguishable personality. It is like she has something to hide. Totally weird. Sometimes she morphs into what she thinks other people want to see, like trying to adopt Holly’s personality for Hef to like her lol

[@craftykittydesigns]

That’s how I felt in the last season of GND. Once Holly, Bridget, and Kendra left the show it just lost all of its heart and had a bland and melancholy energy about it.

[@daisyjffrsn]

Perfectly said.

[@TheRustyTrike]

I love when Marston is on. Feels like baby brother is visiting. ❤❤❤

[@CC-bi4ci]

Marston is the guy who you want to chat over coffee with just for his fascinating insights over many subjects. Such a cool dude. Glad to see he’s doing well.

[@hannahrose2147]

Marston pled no contest to domestic violence and corporal injury to a spouse or cohabitant. His OnlyFans is quite disturbing, and he has written online about beastiality. Maybe do some research?

[@rebeccasummers]

It’s sad having to ask your dads staff if there’s a seat open at movie night in his own house 😢

[@deecee7042]

Yes! This is what makes me so sad. Crystal is straight up WEIRD for this

[@ytuseracct]

Yeah that was crazy

[@fionamcgrath8982]

Or one could call it coercive control.

[@hughhaefner3317]

It's Hefs fault that Marston had to ask permission just to watch a movie on movie night.

[@jennifercate8996]

It is, but I took him stating that he’s super polite, as him saying maybe he didn’t *have* to ask Crystal at all, but that he did this on his own accord. Did anyone else take it that way? It seems like it was a very fine line all around and either way it’s bizarre. If my husbands son was texting me asking if he could sit on the sofa, or have a seat at all, at a movie night (it’s not like it was a romantic date with just the two of them, that his son was, “crashing” it was something that many people were attending, so why would he need permission at all? Again, bizarre ”), my response would be to reassure him that I appreciate him showing me respect as the woman of the house, but he’s welcome to any and all movie nights and he can basically sit wherever he wants/has first dibs on his preferred seat! That’s just me though. I don’t know if there’s more to it…? I know there were many lists and as they stated she liked to have control over the guest lists and to add and remove girls/people. This could also have been an example of this. The difference in this though, and why “permission” shouldn’t have been required, was it wasn’t a huge party where they had to cater … adding his son and the plus one or 3 he brought wouldn’t effect the amount of food/booze/etc. needed. The mansion already had a ton of resources there on the daily. And then the NDA’s, all around was strange.

[@offbalance_]

"I think her Instagram followers are FAKE" * AD * LMAO

[@prettydvmb]

Made me crack up, i immediately got an underwear ad i was like oh

[@portlandjetaime]

His emotional intelligence is admirable

[@ScubaSteve3560]

Very.

[@LilithT1000]

Marston is an amazing guest. His experience and perspective is so unique. He never has a throw away answer and asks questions that add to the conversation. If a third host is ever added, I really hope it’s him.

[@zztopz7090]

I support this sentiment.

[@kellysblackcat]

How was she a prisoner yet managed to build herself this "empire" all on her own? It doesn't add up. She played the game, that's what she did. She isolated him to keep people away from him. Maybe people who actually cared and had his best interests in mind. It's called elderly abuse. The will changing when he doesn't have all his faculties. I think she's dirty and conniving and I thought that from day one. She's robotic and repeats the same bland sentences. Nothing about her is interesting and I feel after all this time, she's still insecure about herself and trying to one up everyone else. Keeping Bridget away from visiting, she probably never told Hugh that Bridget was trying to see him. He probably died feeling very alone. I think she's very sociopathic. Just my opinion.

[@GonkBoy66]

Completely agree. She had her eye on the prize the whole time.

[@deecee7042]

Yep and Crystal saying on her podcast that Hef didn’t want to see Bridget or didn’t even mention her was master manipulator status. She wanted to intentionally hurt Bridget by saying that. You’re right, you already know she didn’t tell Hef Bridget was trying to see him! And maybe Hef didn’t mention Bridget like Crystal said, especially since he was losing his faculties- so what?! You already know he would have been DELIGHTED to see her, even if she showed up unannounced. He was always so much nicer to previous girlfriends that showed up at mansion parties, including kicking people out of his seating arrangement to make way for past girlfriends even! Holly and Bridget mentioned this on the podcast. Ridiculous. Bridget is so fun, anyone would want to see her!

[@kellysblackcat]

@@deecee7042 you're right. He probably didn't mention the other girls because he knew how she reacted. She denied Bridget from seeing him because she knew she was important to Hef. There's no other reason to keep her away. She's spiteful and insecure. The fact the GND failed with them as the girls also showed her she wasn't as liked as the previous 3 girls. So I think she purposely tried to erase them from Hefs life. I can't stand how she keeps bringing up Holly and Bridget in her podcasts. I don't watch her but I've seen clips of her, and she just sounds high-school petty. She needs to stop denying who she is and what she did. She was a gold digger. She was cheating with other men(allegedly) , she could have left to be with them, but she stuck around to get what she could.

[@Ixidor13]

Not to mention, someone so "frustrated" wouldnt be going left and right with her EXs Last name. HEFFFNER , HEFFFNER and im like girl..................

[@karawigley6231]

I agree & after having rewatched the Girls Next Door recently finding it on Tubi I watched the season she & the twins were on & she 100% acted like Holly. I mean down to her laugh & infatuation with Disney it was all how Holly. Made me feel like she had seen the show previously & modeled herself after Holly knowing she was his #1 & the love of Hef’s life in his later years. It was just as if she committed to acting like her to get what she had. I don’t know it’s odd but if you watch it it’s blatantly obvious.

[@Itzelrova77]

Holly we all know Crystal was a bop 😅 we know you truly loved Hef. I think everyone knows you were amazing with him and respected him. We love you glad his son sees that too.

[@AdamMueller-d8r]

What's a "Bop"?

[@beonbe1584]

Lol

[@MayISpeak]

Well actually Holly did say that she “thought she was in love with him” her words she describes the relationship as being very “Stockholm syndrome.”

[@jenakre7482]

Crystal was the definition of a Narcissist! And obviously a good one too! She narc’d Hef late into his dementia years. Hef would have never fell for her $hit back in the day. He would have treated her like the junk trash that she was.

[@jenakre7482]

For her to say “nudity isnt good” says it all! Nudity is natural and the beauty of $€x. She was SO manipulative!!

[@YooserYootube]

This episode was JUICY! After today's episode, it seems like Crystal's experience was much less like the damsel in distress she portrays it to be, and much more like Wendy Williams' situation -- where there are people taking advantage of Wendy's declining mental health by abusing their power and taking her money.

[@ButImAGhosthunter]

LOVED HAVING MARSTON BACK!! He has such a wonderful way of conversing. ❤🤗🌈💫✌️ Thanks for the wonderful Monday -also when you watch the Runaway Bride doc, dead giveaways.

[@TaytoJack94]

I really do think Crystal’s mom has a LOT to do with her “fame”…

[@MidwestBeautyxo]

Also with what happened

[@lbrando18]

I just want to say - I LOVE the relationship between yall and Marston. He is such an evolved human, where he’s able to discuss his father in a way that shows he clearly loves and respects his father, but also is able to identify his flaws and problematic behavior, and denounce it. And while others, who weren’t his child, or really even knew him, defend the bad, he’s able to frame it in a specific way that shows he understands the tea. And I think he respects Holly, and knew that she was probably the only main girlfriend, maybe ever, who actually cared and loved Hef, and wasn’t solely there for money.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

It’s great to see Marston back on the show. He has blossomed into a handsome young man, and he is well-spoken. I appreciate that while he loves his father, he takes a fair and balanced approach to people’s different experiences with Playboy. I read Crystal’s book, and while I acknowledge that she went through some unpleasant experiences, I don’t think it was as bad as she portrayed it. I think she had more power in the household than Holly and Bridget had when they were there, and I think that Hef was kinder to her than he was to Holly, Bridget, and to an extent, Kendra. I think Crystal is doing “Hef bashing” to sell books. Marston has a very good point. If the experience was so bad, why did Crystal continue to use the “Hefner” name while she tried to gain fame after Hef’s death?

[@absolutetwaddle]

It is CRAZY how much he looks like his dad. I love this trio. The conversation flows and is so thoughtful.

[@teresajackson7516]

I don’t know much about Crystal. But from what I’m hearing from Marston, she’s a very transactional person. “Do something for me, and I’ll do something for you.” I’ve always gotten a creepy feeling from her. At least Holly and Bridget really cared about the man.

[@JoanneZarogiannos]

Crystal married an old man. Hef wanted a young bride and he pay for it. Too bad. Crystal got what she deserved.

[@sophierobinson6041]

Him saying he loves spending time with them at the end of the video speaks volumes ❤

[@JonClowdy]

So sweet

[@koripeterson7310]

I completely disagree with comments saying this episode gave mean girls energy or not girls supporting girls. Theres a difference between being dramatic for no reason and sharing your side, especially with how much Crystal has said stuff about Holly and Bridget. Like some girls do bad things and it doesnt mean you arent a girls girl if you dont support a girl who has treated you negatively. Sorry but all the commenters dont know anyone discussed here personally. Let Bridget and Holly share their experience.

[@kellysblackcat]

So it's OK for crystal to talk crap about them though? I don't see anything wrong with Holly and Bridget discussing her book and contradictory behaviors. They're alot more polite than she's been. Crystal even stooped as low as to insult Holly's daughter.

[@deecee7042]

Yes I agree. Holly and Bridget are just speaking the truth. Crystal’s book is like when people accuse someone of sexual assault that didn’t do it, it gives less validity to those that were actually sexually assaulted. I have no doubt Crystal went through some hard, indecent, and dehumanizing experiences at the mansion- but Crystal’s book degrades the validity of those that were abused more heavily by Hef by containing lies. It is okay to call it out, in my opinion

[@chelseylin6724]

36:00 I love that look Bridget gives Holly 😭

[@lyan333]

Right!!! It was like her checking on her but also like “girl, did u hear that!”👀👀

[@deecee7042]

I looooove the videos on KZbin for this reason!!!

[@aw9275]

I love that you can see slight look of satisfaction on Holly's face, when Bridget looks at her. I think she really was the one, and Hef knew he screwed up with her. He settled for Crystal.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

@@aw9275I agree. I think it was completely true that Hef intended to marry Holly after the kids turned 18 and he could legally divorce Kimberly. I believe Holly when she said that Hef wasn’t going to get any more girlfriends after Bridget and Kendra left, and the show’s focus was going to change where it was going to be about Holly and Hef.

[@cheribee968]

Marston has such an empathetic heart. His mother must have done a great job raising him. He is fair and non judgmental I always wondered if he has any kind of relationship with the older half siblings

[@MayISpeak]

I do wonder if his mom had anything to do with his thinking. Like kimberly Clark and Hef divorced and i imagine her story parallels Holly’s in some ways.

[@alexaorozco4603]

He said “put some respect on my dads name Crystal “ lmfao 😂 This was a great episode omg so juicy ! They came in with facts and they stand on business ! Love love love ! ❤

[@ManInBlack1988]

“I’m not going to make the same mistake I made with Holly” made me choke up a bit 😢

[@mikaellams6797]

Eeeshhh same . How things could have been 😬

[@samanthab8222]

Holly deserved to get out of the mansion and live her life. Marrying Hef wasn’t a prize…She says the relationship was abusive.

[@tonyabrown7855]

@@samanthab8222 Knowing your abuser may have regretted their abuse can be really healing.

[@ManInBlack1988]

@@samanthab8222 Agreed, I’m glad she got out and made a great life for herself outside of the mansion.

[@shirl3942]

He knew Holly truly loved him. I'm sure he knew he had messed up and wasn't going to let it happen again.

[@brittany8547]

We really need a sound or something before the ad kicks in! "Her Instagram followers are fake, underwear drawers!".. I was so confused for a moment! 😂😂😂😂😂 (listening while working)

[@pamelalansbury94]

I agree

[@ms53182]

Yes

[@nikkitube8816]

I love how pure and genuine Marston is. It’s so refreshing to hear him speak to you guys about everything.

[@rlabarbera]

Crystal's mom is at the root of everything. I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal comes to that realization one day.

[@AnnaS-me2kt]

Crystal did say in her book that her parents equated fame and money with happiness. She didn't think they intentionally rubbed it off on her but they didn't hide it from her either.

[@rlabarbera]

@@AnnaS-me2kt I don't think she has fully reckoned with the amount of grooming that went on directly from her mother. Her mother pushed her into that mansion of horrors into the lap of a crypt keeper, not once but twice. I'm convinced the mother is a malignant narc. My guess is Crystal minimizes her mom's abuse and she's still in denial about it. There's a tendency to cover for one's parent because the reality would be too painful. I also think that Crystal's cunning mom makes Kendra's mom look like a sweetheart in comparison.

[@AnnaS-me2kt]

I can understand that too, it's like how some people think Kendra's mom is defending Hef because she doesn't want to admit that she gave her daughter her blessing to date a man 60 years older than her. Both Crystal and Kendra's mothers thought that them being at the mansion was their only chance of financial stability.

[@cosodesign8953]

@@rlabarbera I mean she clearly stated in her book that her mom enjoyed the attention she got from heff and loved the mansion and that made crystal think she was ungrateful for everything she had at the mansion. I think Crystal knows her mom is a factor but she wanted to be kind to her mom in her book and kept most details to herself. What she chooses to share and not share is her business.

[@kristinsessler3739]

Her only pat on the back moment was about destroying the photos or hidden things … this is such a good one I have been wanting to hear all this in real talk

[@kerstypatrick2260]

While the action was honorable I think her intentions for it are not what she leads on. I'm sure she did it out of jealousy. She probably would of thrown out the scrap books too if she could.

[@drewsfunland]

Who even knows if she really did that, she could of just have said that doesn't mean it's real

[@lorihendrix5565]

Here's my take on that. By saying hey so and so, I got rid of THOSE pictures... She's indirectly exposing who's done certain things that could damage their reputation. Yet she comes out looking like the hero of the day. JMO

[@patriciacruz2208]

Bridget, I love that sweater! It's always nice to see Marston. I like when he talks about his upbringing and truth.

[@StrawberryMoon4444]

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[@gisellepoppy]

boost!!!

[@NicoleDivis]

Is there a part two because Marston talks so well and always has an intellectual opinion on topics.

[@sunmeowlody]

I really look forward to this every Monday

[@GBunnyG]

This was so, so good. I've read a few of the books written by women who left the mansion, motivated after reading Holly's book. I would be interested in reading Crystal's book, only out of sheer curiosity, but the only post-mansion book I've actually paid for was Holly's and I plan to keep it that way.

[@amandanicole3999]

Same!

[@FragranceEuphoria]

I didn't want to spend money on Crystal's book either. So I checked it out from the library for free.

[@justinetorres670]

I think it’s free on Spotify if you’re down for audiobooks

[@FragranceEuphoria]

@@justinetorres670 When I got it for free from the library I learned that you can check out the audiobook or written book online so you can get it from the library without having to go in person. I didn't know the library was online until I did that. So glad you can get it for free because I definitely would not pay a dime to Crystal.

[@hannahjohnson4475]

@@FragranceEuphoria I'm doing the same thing. Checking it out from my library, but I'm put on wait list at the moment

[@AnnaS-me2kt]

I do not understand people bashing Holly and Bridget. Holly even stated that she knew people wouldn't believe her and that she would be told that she was ungrateful for the good things Hef gave her. Holly even comments on how she makes money from all this. Yes Crystal was a victim but she keeps going back and forth about her experience and instead of getting help she changes her tune all the time. I think she worries too much on how everyone will perceive her instead of accepting that some people are gonna hate her.Holly has accepted that there are people who hate her and will always disagree with her. Crystal wasnt ready to be called a liar, she thinks everyone should believe her without question.

[@bethika643]

Between here, patreon, and reddit, this is one of the best comments on this topic. It's very level headed

[@kellysblackcat]

And the way she won't acknowledge that she's got ahead because of his help. Trying to sound like she's self made. Where would she be if she wasn't at the mansion. She played the game and got what she wanted from it. And isolating him in his last years, changing the will, is elder abuse.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

Excellent comment. What I like about Holly is she knew full well that there will be people that would turn on her for writing that book, and she 100% acknowledges to this day that she got her fame from being with Hef. Crystal is trying to portray that her success had nothing to do with being Hef’s wife, and she was 100% self made. Let’s be real - if she was “Crystal Harris” and not “Crystal Hefner”, she would still be one of the aspiring stars in LA looking for her next break.

[@mrsmcintyre69]

OMG by far my favorite episode!! I'm not going to lie....I was hoping there would be a part 2. I'm so glad Marston came back on and hopefully he will be back soon!!

[@ashleynicolette1]

Same !!! I feel having Marston on is the healing that some of the people hurt by the playboy experience need . He’s so kind and empathetic and romantic . Very sweet . I could listen to him talk forever. He’s Hugh Hefner’s true legacy 😇

[@MarySunshine25]

Yesssss! Perfect timing, got a ton of stuff to work through so now I have something fun to listen to while I work! 💜

[@kimbeard756]

Crystal knew what she was doing....I read her book and actually it was alot like Holly's book. I honestly believe that Hef went downhill when he got mixed up with Crystal....The girl was married to Hef and had lovers on the side. WTH SMH Love Holly and Bridget!!!!!!!!!!

[@kellysblackcat]

And that's probably why she was so keen on the nda's. Didn't want it getting out. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[@andrewarnt3060]

It’s really touching to see these three uniting to do this after everything that has gone down through the years regarding their very different experiences with Hugh. I think it says a lot and points us closer to an unbiased perspective of what life was really like living under the playboy empire and the different ways power dynamics can affect people individually. Super interesting 👀👀

[@ct6852]

The 'cackling crows' sentiment sounds like it jibes with what Sara was saying the other day.

[@ADK92]

I’m so glad you guys are speaking out against her and telling it like it is. Crystal is a bigger pos than we thought. 😳

[@heatherhaz3]

This conversation was beautiful. Thank you for sharing. It's very clear that everyone is coming from a place of love for Hef. Very touching. It's so common for elderly people to be taken advantage of, and it's not talked about publicly enough.

[@Gypsymama789]

I listened to her book. Nothing happens in that world happens by accident. It takes a certain type of animal to survive and thrive in such a highly competitive environment.

[@krystlejade9126]

Marston is such a good guest! He's insightful, fair, and adds a lot to each topic of conversation.

[@Shiannejossy]

I need a part 2!!!

[@susiedurham4426]

Wow! That was hands down one of the best episodes, ladies!

[@babymuffin3233]

About to do chores and listen! Can’t wait 💜💜💜💜

[@bb-mf6qh]

Me too 😂❤ it's cute how we all are listening and working/ doing chores together

[@babymuffin3233]

@@bb-mf6qh i love it! 💜🥹

[@starsigngirl9789]

😂 I listen to them doing housework too helps make it fun xxx

[@babymuffin3233]

Same i feel like im having a girls day! 😂

[@judithplume8881]

He’s the double of Heff

[@julief2830]

He really looks like a younger version of his dad

[@burghblonde]

THIS IS THE TEA WE WANT!!! Love!!!

[@blueturtle1813]

amazing guest! thanks for having him on again

[@deecee7042]

I was a big fan of Bridget and Holly acknowledging Marston’s comment where he said that Holly and Bridget also built their empire from the leg up Hef gave them (even though we know there is a price to it!). At first I thought the comment was a little blunt, but it is true, and Holly and Bridget have expressed gratitude for where the experience has gotten them in life. Unbelievable that Crystal cannot acknowledge she built a whole empire off of Hef’s back, and abused an elder! Also gross that she had the will changed while Hef was mentally declining, and that she runs the Hefner foundation to this day?! How is Marston, Hef’s freakin’ son not running it?! And she has been saying she wants to change her Hefner last name back to her maiden name for like, years now… Change it already!

[@valerieo8024]

On Crystals latest Instagram post, the one when she’s announcing that she broke up with her boyfriend, she NOW says she’s keeping the Hefner name because it’s part of her identity. Crystal is nauseating .. fake, she is not a genuine good person and now everyone is seeing it. And not for nothing her book is identical to Holly’s in the style in which it’s written.

[@deecee7042]

@@valerieo8024 What?! That is disgusting! You have to be kidding me! She has literally been talking about changing the last name forever, what a switch up. I noticed she has been called out for keeping it at a few major press interviews from a couple months ago. Maybe that got to her

[@qlolo3237]

Marston wanted the tea he’s just like us

[@hannahrose2147]

I wish you ladies would stop giving a platform to this abuser. Love Holly and Bridget, but Marston is a problematic person. I understand wanting his perspective the first time, but having him on continuously is upsetting to your viewers who have survived situations Marston put Claire in.

[@eliannalizeth9870]

I could have watched these 3 talk for hours. ❤❤❤

[@elektrablacksky]

Me too

[@Jami-Frankie]

I am so here for this!! 🍿

[@starsigngirl9789]

Same❤❤❤

[@Sparker17]

What a good surprise today, love that Marston was back on. This was great, very sad, but such an interesting conversation.

[@Chelle-yz5sc]

Marston is by far my favorite guest on here.

[@kennilynn3166]

This was a great interview! Marston is always a great interview.

[@joannallen1989]

I always look forward to your podcast. This one was really good. I love Marston.

[@jenb6910]

Marston is a great person ❤

[@annaelaine8481]

Also i love that he said why is she president when its not anything what she stands for .and what is the purpose of it. I literally thought the same thing!!

[@deecee7042]

Yes same!! I always assumed the boys did not become the chairs of the foundation because they didn’t want to. It was sobering to hear Marston say he did want to! He should be the chair, not Crystal!

[@annaelaine8481]

@@deecee7042 yes!!! Exactly! She's had years of planning. And with Hef being so sick and changing his will yikes. And both boys you would think would be the first picks for his foundation as co presidents. So sad.

[@georgehernandez6352]

Just a few years ago after his death Holly released her book she did several interviews you can find on KZbin. She was talking shit about Playboy and Hugh Hefner. How she felt nasty and disgusted and even implied she was drugged. I’m confused her and Bridget speak so highly of Playboy and and Hugh Hefner now

[@courtneybarrow6605]

Her book came out before his death. Like wayyyy before

[@mikehunt7360]

@@courtneybarrow6605that doesn’t change their comment. Why is she speaking so highly of everything now when she trashed him in the book?

[@courtneybarrow6605]

@mikehunt7360 just because some things were bad doesn't mean it was all bad. Also they were with him for a long time, of course they still care about him and didn't want to see him taken advantage of in his old age.

[@georgehernandez6352]

@@mikehunt7360 exactly there’s plenty videos on KZbin where she even speaks on their sexual escapades she said after having sex, she felt disgusted, dirty, and nasty she even implied she was drugged. yesterday, her and Bridget on a podcast praising Playboy praising Hugh Hefner

[@bbygirlfromda253]

⁠@@georgehernandez6352she felt nasty, disgusted etc. after the sex because it was involving multiple people, some of which she was treated bad by and didn’t trust. It didn’t involve love/intimacy at all. It was just a weird routine that no one really wanted to take part in besides hef himself. She said she felt used as just a tool for Hef to get off and that’s what Holly and all the other girls were. Plus she, and I’m sure several other girls were uncomfortable with the group sex setting. All the girls would get wasted/high at the club before they all went home to have sex because none of them enjoyed it. That situation is very nuanced. I think they are trying to be fair and be honest about the good and the bad. There was both. People/situations are not so black and white. No person is all good or all evil. Again it’s more nuanced than that. And from what I remember Holly claimed that Hef offered her a pill one night at a club and often offered them to other girls and said that she decided to decline it and said no thanks.

[@jennifervandeusen4765]

I just love Marston! He’s so amazing! And Thank You Holly and Bridget for sharing. Wow now it all makes sense about her book. 🤙🏼💖💖💖

[@sazcorp]

I'm so glad that you are telling this perspective. Like Hef or not, he deserved better than this treatment in the end. So sad.

[@HelloAwesome94]

This is odd….Holly’s original book “Down the Rabbit Hole the curious adventures and cautionary tales of a former playboy bunny.” Was literally called “history rewritten” by Hugh Hefner when he was alive. And I was a fan of Holly when she started the rewatch series on KZbin. However I know she likes videos where people trash talk Kendra because she’s liked and unliked them on tiktok. Not to mention how Crystal Hefner burned all those revenge porn photos that Holly was so afraid would leak in “The Secrets of Playboy”. But here you and Bridget are essentially telling people her book and her experiences are fiction and defending Hefner who you’ve CONDEMNED. Called out and shamed publicly and in your book Holly. And you’re here with Marston Hefner who was in and out of his fathers life close to his death who is mad that Hef didn’t give him his inheritance. Mad that Crystal got any money or what he views as his even though she was Hefs wife during his final years. You are attempting character assassination with these statements. Calling her a gold digger when you and Bridget were doing the exact same thing. I mean at least Kendra is honest about what she was doing but you two keep trying to say how innocent and how naive you were to playboy. Attempting to flip everything we saw and even defame the show ‘Girls next Door’ which is the only reason your famous at all. You both are like those ex-Disney stars who are unemployed and begging for an audience to do something and make some money. I mean you spent all your lives leaving playboy behind and now it’s still only PLAYBOY. Holly even has a murder show called “The Playboy Murders”. I’m currently reading Crystals book and I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt like when I read yours despite how much you trashed Hugh Hefner but I guess it’s only okay when you and Bridget do it.

[@themayqueen9083]

It seems as though life plummeted after the loss of Holly❤ There's never a replacement for true love. He slowly and painfully died of remorse💔

[@madaleinecutone4184]

he's so media trained lol i love it

[@AmandaSVida]

All this is rumors.. loved it 😅

[@olivia6101]

Love Holly and Bridget but I’m over the “they weren’t there for the right reasons” hef is a grown man and he chose to surround himself with barely legal women. Hef knew they didn’t like him for his personality let’s be real

[@zztopz7090]

They didnt mistreat or exploit him though. It was like a business relationship. But you still can grow fond of anyone you spend time with.

[@dmccallum8460]

THANK YOU for addressing that book. Love you had Marston on to discuss! Great interview again! ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

[@rosebusch238]

Nope! Sorry, but I wouldn't spend one dang dollar on her book. Saw her as a gold digger from day one.

[@FragranceEuphoria]

I got it online for free from the library. If you don't know which I didn't know before but the library is also online. So you can read the book or listen to the audiobook online for free from the libraries website without having to go to the library in person.

[@rosebusch238]

@FragranceEuphoria Thank you for that, but I'm not interested in that fabricated story. I will, however, check for the free library 🙂

[@Calimera53]

wellllllll... heres my theory: she was mad about the 2 million and ran away. i guess he didn't have any more money to give her bc of his financial situation, so he offered her to be president of the hmh foundation. thats when she agreed and married him.

[@vdg5346]

Only 56k views? by how much they trashed Crystal this should be at 1M

[@thatgirl237]

Marston! Yay love when he is on the pod . He puts things so lovely.

[@kristinacollins8380]

Honest question.. hasn't Holly also written a book "destroying his dad's legacy?" I feel she says nothing nice about Hef either.

[@BattyBoo24amc]

I feel the same, but I think Holly at one point did love Hef, but I personally don't feel like Crystal ever has.

[@GENBECCAM]

THIS TRIO IS SO FUN TO WATCH! They bring out the best in each other.

[@osxow1]

I read Crystal book and totally fell for it, but i am glad the real girls next door are giving facts!!!!!! When Crystal attacked Bridget i though something wasn't right

[@minarose3193]

why did she attack Bridget?

[@osxow1]

​@@minarose3193on her press book, she said Bridget was a mean girl and all of the sudden forgot she said Holly's baby name was a prostitute name

[@deecee7042]

And on her podcast she said Hef didn’t want to see Bridget and that he didn’t even mention her. And now we know it was a lie, and that Crystal controlled the guest list and was isolating Hef. And we know from Holly / Bridget that when past girlfriends visited the red carpet was rolled out for them, Hef would literally change his crazy seating arrangements to accommodate past girlfriends

[@JW-lr8sd]

35:38 🥺💔 the heaviness of that statement he made to Holly.

[@Tiredtodayandtomorrow]

23:21 lol ! The way marston shut up Bridget and Holly. Is Holly mad that Crystal did what she didn’t have the guts to do? Hef gave adult women a curfew , isolated them from family, took money opportunities away from them, treated them badly…. Now you are defending Hefs honor for crystal doing exactly what you complained about in your book and every interview? Crystal gave him a taste of his own medicine in the end. I’m not saying it’s right but why are you mad about it? She owes no one an explanation the same way no one made Hef explain his reasons from doing what he did to many women. Crystal took advantage of an old man the way hef took advantage of young girls. I give props to Crystal for ripping up and getting rid of damaging photos and videos of women in compromising situations that hef had been collecting.

[@mariakimbro5531]

I agree!!!! I feel like I must've read a different book than what is described. I don't think Crystal sounded like a Gone Girl-esque victim. In fact, pretty sure Crystal is also a bit Aspergers and that Hef could see that a mile away. Her "monotone" is much like mine. Another aspergers trait. She had Hef's number, but she also never apologized for using him back. The guy was a creep.

[@Erica-qb6tk]

I think Holly and Bridget have always been very straight up about their experiences and I feel like Crystal isnt! She’s so fake imo

[@zztopz7090]

He never isolated the girls. They could have visitors, could leave. They just had an agreement with Hef, like the curfue. Some just didnt have family members nearby. Im not a fan of revenge. Its never proportional and Crystal is not the one that deserves to reap the benefits. She deprived his son, grandkids, and people that actually cared about him of an inheritance. And she is destroying the brand. At the end he lost his faculties and free will. He didnt have the freedom to leave like they all. She isolated him and let him die alone.

[@zztopz7090]

He never isolated the girls. They could have visitors, could leave. They just had an agreement with Hef, like the curfue. Some just didnt have family members nearby. Im not a fan of revenge. Its never proportional and Crystal is not the one that deserves to enact it. She deprived his sons, grandkids, and people that actually cared about him of an inheritance. And she is destroying the brand. At the end he lost his faculties and free will. He didnt have the freedom to leave like they all. She isolated him and let him die alone. Holly would never do that to him.

[@briabrooke]

Didn't this guy get charged for putting hands on Claire Sinclair?

[@mommyteacher1238]

that was years ago. ❤

[@FLMAMACBEAR617]

Huh? Spill the tea

[@harrietyounger6118]

I'm confused about the double standard here. Is crystal any different to any other girlfriend including Holly and Bridget. Holly wrote a book about her experience, crystal wrote a book about her experience. They both felt trapped. Holly uses the playboy name to make money, crystal uses the Hefner name to make money. To me it's all transactional it's just crystal got a better deal. I feel like the women are pitted against eachother. I wish that Bridget, Holly, Kendra and crystal could all sit down and talk to eachother and not about eachother. I feel like Holly and crystal have more in common than different. I like both yet have reservations about inconsistencies in both people's stories and motivation to be with hef. I just thought this would be a more balanced episode. I thought you would have things you agree with and things you didn't. It just felt all negative. I feel there's alot of one upmenship with all the girlfriends especially the main girlfriends maybe I am missing something but I do feel this was a crystal bashing episode when crystal and Holly have done so much of the same stuff.

[@leahb1233]

Yes. A man with a history of abusing a former gf (Marston)asking a woman why she didn’t leave an abusive situation is rich. Holly is now asking Crystal this same question, when she stayed there for 7 years and complained why people ask her this all the time?!? I think this is a case of victim turned villain. Holly is relishing in the fact that the negative focus is now on Crystal, after she was the one criticized and bullied for years. Holly and Crystal are sooo similar. She looks down on Crystal for leaving the mansion for Jordan McGraw, when she left for Chris Angel. Holly and Crystal were there for the same reasons. They liked the idea of being Hugh Hefner’s #1- it was an ego and fame thing. Plus they wanted the money and lifestyle. End of story. They are not victims of Playboy. They are both victims of their own choices and that’s about it.

[@harrietyounger6118]

@@leahb1233 it just wasn't what I expected at all. Completely agree about Holly asking why crystal stayed? Why she left? What did she want from a relationship with hef? Why did she write a book? I think if Holly had married him she would keep the name all her work since leaving has been playboy adjacent. This podcast is a play on the girls nextdoor. Even down to the leaking ceiling being questioned when Holly has admitted that the floors were grossand hef didn't put any money into the place because he didn't own it. Holly has said she wanted to be the only girlfriend and crystal was criticised for the same thing? Bridget hardly spoke which seems to happen alot on here. I feel like she is proud to have been the main girlfriend and still has that energy with Bridget. It doesn't seem like half and half on this podcast. Holly's photo is larger than Bridget's. I think Bridget has been more protective of hef so I kinda wasn't surprised by what little she did say. I felt listening to this that Holly still feels jealous crystal got married to hef. Sour grapes. Like I said the women have so much in common and so it's very odd to hear Holly be harsh to someone for all the things she did too. I actually haven't heard crystal bad mouth Holly. Let's be real all of the women were there for money so for Holly to be like why did she stay is weird. Holly was offered money to stay which she said she felt insulted by the amount and crystal is meant to have left the wedding because she found the prenup insulting which is alleged. I was actually kind of speechless. You would expect his son to be on hefs side and Bridget to a degree. Holly calls other women mean girls but that is very much how she came off here. They didn't give her the benifit of the doubt in any of it. A bit of balance would have made a way better show. The elephant in the podcast was Holly's book not being mentioned once. Holly also is with a celebrity now and crystal is taking a step back. For sure hef wasn't a good bloke. Noone would have been with him if he had no money and name. This isn't women supporting women it's the opposite. Just weird.

[@kariannsutherland4850]

Chrystal some how got a man who was cognitively not in a good place any more to change his will

[@firefly314]

It must be interesting to sit across from Marston as an ex girlfriend because he looks so much like Hef

[@SRPA476]

He's back! ❤️

[@stephenmaher1029]

I have to say I don’t feel bad for anyone in this situation. Hef paid women to do things they didn’t want to do and if you think I’m lying I have a nursing home that I can drop you off at to pick up rich men. I know California is crazy but what 20 year old really wants to sleep with an old man.(none that I’ve met) The girls got free room and board, plus all the other perks. Nobody should feel sorry for for him or any of the girls. Everyone was using someone!!!!!One last thing, with all the girls that made it into his room, did yall ever use condoms ?

[@JordynDiorKnight]

Other ladies who lived there said " no , he didn't)."

[@stephenmaher1029]

@@JordynDiorKnight good luck

[@jenakre7482]

@@JordynDiorKnightthey were all tested weekly. Also why they were not allowed to stray

[@Halloweenlover10.31]

Have really enjoyed when Marston has been on. He has such a warmth about him. It's interesting hearing all of your perspectives from your time at the mansion. ❤

[@mistyessinger]

Marston needs to make more appearances!😉💚

[@judyholland7236]

I love your sweater Bridget! That color is perfect on you!😻

[@PrincessJas24]

This was soooo cool having him on with you both! ❤️

[@CLWettstein22]

I love you ladies, I'm glad you did this interview. When I watched any of the interviews with Crystal (if you've seen one, you've seen them all) she seems so fake. Thanks for being real. ❤️

[@jessicamessicak]

I couldn't get through the podcast. It seemed like she was talking to someone she had never met. It was not sincere.

[@daniellekauno5373]

Perfect timing!! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on her book ❤

[@mary5305j]

I really appreciate you both Bridget and Holly for this podcast. Not only are you open in sharing your stories while recognizing other people might have different experiences but having guests on and giving them the space to recount their own memories, whether positive, negative, grieving, or problem solving, you both have created such a comfort space for all that were involved in the playboy world. Thank you for continuing to share and thank you Marston for coming on again and sharing your thoughts and being vulnerable with us (the listeners). Wishing you all well ❤

[@louisedonaldson407]

Such a lovely young man...polite, intelligent and so interesting. Lovely collaboration, thank you to the three of you 🙏🙏🫶🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@deecee7042]

Best episode yet! Real behind the scenes tea.

[@spookyboo22]

Sounds to me like the player got played. Hefner was no victim imo.

[@tomwiggz]

Bridget could be in the darkest place on earth and still shine as bright as the sun. We’re so lucky to have her

[@laureno8269]

this is WAY BETTER than the drake and kendrick beef. I LOVE YOU GUYS