Give Me an Answer - Can A Person Really, Honestly Believe That We Can Know Nothing?

Program 2522 ................... - Agnosticism - Human Value - .................................................................
Recorded at Texas - September 2021.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
#Evidence #Christianity #Jesus #apologetics

[@SOBEIT32AD]

Cliffe speaks with clarity and decisiveness and presses the issues. Most students don’t want to make a decision or decisive answer. Thanks for your ministry Cliffe and Stewart.

[@donaldcoleman514]

psalm 147/19/20 he show his words to Jacob his statutes and judgments to Israel according to the bible the most high show his words statutes and judgments to Israel never mention the nation let's continue for he has not dealt with any other nation and for his judgments they have not known them according to the bible the most high never dealt with any other nation nor do they know his words statutes or judgments

[@slyzwkowzkiklobarlov1867]

Cliffe is a conman peddling religion for a living

[@KeithCindyPanama]

Great debates . *******

[@EddieSchultz62]

@@KeithCindyPanama It's not a debate, it's more street preaching with a bit of discussion going on.

[@EddieSchultz62]

@@donaldcoleman514 First define god, then show evidence for said god. Then show evidence that this god wrote the bible, or inspired it. Then provide evidence that this bible is true and accurate. Then we might take what the bible says seriously!

[@wordunfiltered]

As a "Woman of Color" I approve Cliffe's message concerning why I follow Christ.

[@triplea6174]

And as fellow human being I do as well ;)

[@theomaimba9245]

Nice👌🏾

[@donaldcoleman514]

I'm a man of color but I never follow no man religion let the most high word be truth and every man a lair plus he has no bible in hand

[@spacecoastz4026]

Does that also apply at the voting booth, where lives matter? People of color support the pro-death party about 95%.

[@MyBonee]

All black people that followe Christ will approve of cliffs message, it doesn't mean he is right. Prove the opposing argument wrong!

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again, the patience that Cliffe and Stuart demonstrate is amazing.

[@TimmaySays]

Especially with kids like the first guy. He thinks being animated and theatrical makes them more correct. God forgive me for wanting to smack the arrogant smirk off the kid's face. It's tough to take a step back and and reach for patience and understanding sometimes. These guys have a level of patience I aim to develop.

[@secondson1186]

Imagine looking your friend dead in the face and saying “ they are only valuable, because I think they’re valuable. “

[@jasonnoble7302]

Imagine looking your child in the eyes and saying that without the desires of the Christian God you have no purpose to do anything

[@secondson1186]

@@jasonnoble7302 when did anyone say that? I’m just quoting what the first kid basically said about his friends Plus, that’s just a straw man of someone else’s workdview.

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@secondson1186 I just said it. Isn’t it the case that cliff believes that without the Christian God you have no ultimate purpose or value ? What do you mean by “straw man of someone else’s worldview” exactly?

[@richardcastillo2640]

@@jasonnoble7302 You are misquoting. Your quote should say "Imagine looking at your child in the eyes and saying that without the desires of a God, you have no objective purpose to do anything". Without a God, every human being can subjectively create their own purpose, which Cliffe has said many times. No theist should ever argue that an atheist has no purpose. What they do say, is that anyone who believes there is no god, can not justify an objective purpose and can only cling to subjective purposes. However, with a God, human beings are created with an objective purpose because that comes from the creator.

[@georgemejia4179]

@@jasonnoble7302 it has nothing to do with what cliffe believes.. it’s about whether God is real which is easily provable. Then we get to a Christian God because of the works of Jesus Christ. There’s more evidence for Jesus than your favorite historical person. With those facts we have to understand God who is the creator of the universe gives us life with value. Then gave us instructions on how to live a purposeful life where humans can thrive even through all the suffering. There’s been a lot of suffering in the past.. and we can agree there still is but compared to our ancestors we have it good thanks to God. With all the wealth in the world and food produced we can all live comfortable.. but the reality is that man is corrupt and that’s the issue, not God. God bless brother. If you here it’s because you are looking for truth.. keep looking. You’ll find him. ;)

[@justingary5322]

Thanks to God for having Christian Apologists like Cliffe and Stuart and others like them for uploading these videos. Brother's Cliffe and Stuart always do good work in their efforts in the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ you're reaching thousands to millions of people who are seeking after The Truth of God's Existence, Word and Character in our reality 🙏❤️👊. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolution of but I am convinced of speciation and adaptation which is micro Evolution because there's no evidence of macro Evolution nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

[@godwithus1006]

I appreciate this ministry sooo much

[@godwithus1006]

@@darkeen42 I haven't heard a single lie

[@godwithus1006]

@@darkeen42 I disagree with you, peacefully

[@godwithus1006]

@@darkeen42 What convinced me of God is things like sin, human value, earth's creation, and historical evidence

[@nikduke23]

As a black man, I get bitter when I hear Caucasian people saying that I have a white savior complex because I believe in Jesus. That is nothing shy of a spit in my face. Like I'm not smart enough to do my own research.

[@donaldcoleman514]

according to the bible let me let you in on a secret christ ain't white unless you can prove it from the bible

[@xavieraniton8373]

totally agreed

[@billyholly]

I understand what you mean. There is nothing "white" about Jesus.

[@douglasmcnay644]

Jesus was Jewish. He would have looked like most men from the Middle East. But what He looked like was irrelevant. Who He IS is everything.

[@nikduke23]

@@douglasmcnay644 Amen

[@kenfarlow1844]

Great one Stewart. That young guy hasn't thought things through.

[@wordunfiltered]

Love when these show up in my notifications! 🙏🏾

[@bubba7578]

Bro I love Jacob. I love how everyone else in these videos on the edge of the crowd speaking to Cliffe whose on the inside talking to the whole crowd. Jacob meets Cliffe in the middle and speaks to the crowd just like Cliffe and they are both very receptive to each other based on how much they smile at each other. It's awesome 😂😂

[@armanpeterg]

I love to watch Cliffe and his son continue share the truth from Philippines

[@Joe-DFGA4]

I love these guys, I envy them, wishing to be like them , thinking and speaking. Surely they will see the kingdom of God

[@izzy05777]

I pray that God will give you the strength to do his will, God has a plan for you.

[@drewseaver4531]

I love Cliffe - his passion and his encouragement to think. He truly is a great representation of a Christ follower

[@drewseaver4531]

@@darkeen42 I've watched much of what he has out - what lies does he tell?

[@drewseaver4531]

@@darkeen42 What are some of his lies?

[@drewseaver4531]

@@darkeen42 How do you know what he edits out if it's edited out?

[@drewseaver4531]

@@darkeen42 Hi Michael! Yes I am familiar with logical fallacies - why do you ask? What do you mean the Bible endorses slavery? How do you know what gets edited out if it’s been edited out?

[@drewseaver4531]

@@darkeen42 I don’t have the integrity to watch the unedited video? Where is the unedited video? What have I said to you to make you throw insults at me like this?

[@godwithus1006]

Amazing ministry Stuart!

[@godwithus1006]

To Jesus Christ be the Glory, to The Father be the Glory!

[@diversityhobbit]

Stuart has really come into his own. Great work this is the most important mission field today.

[@jamespboykin]

Yeah Stuart is killing it. I pray my son and I could tag team like Cliffe and Stuart...

[@KJ9999]

Yes he’s improved so much. I used to have a hard time listening to him but you can tell he’s been taking cliff notes 😂

[@beepbeep6861]

Give God the praise

[@ChiefCedricJohnson]

Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

[@Amilyfoodie]

In Africa , fellowing Christ is about relationships , power in Christ supernatural aspect and experience in Christ ,they is nothing like it, Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@greenpieceofmind]

Stuart's great! He's really knows how to grill em.

[@israelsantiago5069]

My parents brought me up in my christian beliefs, but later in life I open my heart to God and chose him on my own. I invited God in my life and establish a relationship with him.

[@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs]

Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead

[@tsananeomeno7963]

Have you ever _observed_ this god you've mentioned?

[@Angel-bj1qk]

Bless your ministry. Always enjoy listening to you 🙏

[@addyzee1335]

God bless you Cliffe & Stuart 💗🙏

[@ImJustRiley]

I love how Cliff and Stewart go about there debates. They talk in ways where everyone can understand. I even use most of there points in my debates with co workers and family and they to understand. You guys are great keep them coming!

[@anthonyl9126]

Snake oil salesmen

[@ImJustRiley]

@@anthonyl9126 you only gain by believing in Christ. No one's selling anything as he does his speeches publicly

[@anthonyl9126]

@@ImJustRiley gaining isn't always good. Accepting your holy doctrine unfortunately puts your mental health at risk because you have to reconcile accepting all of the horrors that come with it. God commanding the murder of the Canaanites, slavery, incest, bad medicine (birds blood cures leprosy), infanticide... I'll never accept your book. It's disgusting.

[@ImJustRiley]

@@anthonyl9126 The perversion of the Bible is what you have to be weary of. But if you honestly believe God created diseases, disasters, bad medicine, and slavery, you have not done your research. The murder of the Canaanites was bc of the worship of demonic idols, taboo sexual acts, and even the sacrifice of children. Before you speak on things do your research. God is perfect and just. God knows no sin as we are punished by sin bc of our rebellion against God. Evil is the incarnate of sin no God.

[@anthonyl9126]

@@ImJustRiley I didn't say god created it. It's permitted in the bible. Oh, so good. You believe that the Canaanite massacre was murder, too. Child sacrifice is an interesting reason considering god also ordered their babies to be dashed against rocks. Perhaps that was meant as a direct ticket back to heaven? I'll never know. The problem is that we would never... EVER permit the murder of people for how they worship today. So, for your god, the all loving creator of everything to permit it is repulsive. I'll NEVER respect the crap in that awful book of yours.

[@emc.2943]

Keep planting seeds Cliff ! He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

[@ike7909]

I love the encouragement Cliff. Even if they disagree with you they have got to feel that encouragement.

[@prw8004]

Truth is truth…all the confusion and doubt is because the students are looking for something other than the truth…that is why when they try to impress and act intelligent they either contradict themselves or get confused even more.

[@proqem6604]

I love Jacob, he's great.🤣 God bless his soul.

[@proqem6604]

@Our Savior You too buddy! xD

[@7thPhire]

Very good, brother Cliff! Amen...

[@godwithus1006]

Amazing ministry Cliffe!

[@heidils8152]

Oh boy! This is a really good one!

[@mathiasjameson9574]

God bless you Cliff ! I love looking at those videos

[@donaldcoleman514]

What God are you talking about

[@mathiasjameson9574]

Jesus Christ

[@History_MadeMe_Catholic]

Luc Ferry, good one. . Alexis De Tocqueville, French Attorney, non Christian outlook of investigating the original society of the Constitution established on the Bible, by praying men. Mathematician of Oxford, John Lennox, author of "Gods undertaker" other great books as well. He investigated an Atheistic society during the Iron Curtain, as a translator at the Siberia Academias. . Doctorate of science and history at Cambridge, John Hedley Brooke, author of the History of Science and Religion. Ray Comfort, The Evidence Bible. For anyone looking into better understanding of Jewish culture, ancient Jewish culture, the Divine expression woven in the Bible, the overall validity of the Bible, that study Bible has multiple sources.

[@thunderx3005]

Jesus Saves, John 14:6 amen 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@tedelder1796]

Good job that is hard work you're doing you have to work really hard to try to give lukewarm people some assemblance of God

[@user-cu3xn4xj3i]

They just don't want to know God.

[@johnnycooper657]

As a child of God I have taken giant steps in knowledge the longer I walk and talk with the ONE WHO KNOWS ALL. It's no coincidence that major advances in the sciences were by those who are believers. Eventually, if you seek Him you will find Him. If you are, however, your own God you'll never truly seek Him. Godspeed pilgrims.

[@jasonnoble7302]

If you’ve been determined to presuppose your version of Christianity is true and then “seek” you will believe you have valid reasons and evidence for your God beliefs. But that doesn’t mean those beliefs correspond with reality I’m assuming your definition for “the one who knows all” is the claimed God of the bible. The Christian God ? Do you have an inference for your claim that you can know you are walking and taking with the Christian God ?

[@johnnycooper657]

@@jasonnoble7302 , presupposition on the level of the Holy Spirit would require the equivalent knowledge. Now, maybe you are equal or superior to the Almighty, but I would never be quite that arrogant. Godspeed pilgrim.

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@johnnycooper657 What’s the inference for : “presupposition on the level of the Holy Spirit would require the equivalent knowledge.” And how does your worldview account for such an inference ?

[@johnnycooper657]

@@jasonnoble7302, I have no inclination to parry words with those who are their own God. Or worse, those that believe everything just happened and all of the cosmos is just a colossal calamity waiting to happen. Suffice to say that I am on the narrow Way and you are not. I would say fare thee well but you will not in the end. And though I don't believe in it, " Good luck. You're going to need it."

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@johnnycooper657 Really you don’t follow the rules of Christianity ? 1 Peter 3/15 Give reason to “ANYONE WHO ASKS” This includes those who YOU believe think they are their own Gods Shame on you Sir Shame on you for NOT being consistent in your worldview 😤

[@VinnySmiles01]

The Proud Boys are not hatful. Let’s do our homework on this.

[@taramckinley7585]

Absolutely-and did Stuart just say that people who supported Trump are hateful? I'm not sure if I misheard that. It sounded like he just said they were extremists and "fringe". Maybe I misunderstood. I hope so.

[@vincentkrych2158]

I agree, they say Stuart puts no labels on anyone but labels the proud boys as hateful. Conservatives are not hateful. Who are the ones rioting in the streets because it doesnt go their way. Surely not Conservatives!

[@rowdyproudy2242]

He made the connection between Proud Boys and other groups who are "tremendously hateful."

[@tuttuts560]

I know right? Trump didn't even know them until the left raised it in the debate simply because they rejected illegal immigration, and sympathized with trump for 2020. That man stood for everything that the left hated; God, preservation of life, law and order, etc. Just a little longer we will know the truth. I'll let that comment slide because I'm here to broaden my knowledge

[@seekingtruth4175]

Stuart knocked it out of the park with that one. He is absolutely right about how some christians replaced God with the republican party as their head. But the bible talks about how even the elect will be deceived in Matthew. Yeshua is Lord! america is babylon.

[@shreddedhominid1629]

You are a nut

[@mygodisyahweh8093]

😐: We can know nothing. Me : How do you know that?

[@redlall21]

💯 the amount of value in this video

[@Peter-wl3tm]

Jacob just destroyed his own statement. “The only thing I know is I don’t know anything” If you don’t know anything, how can you know that you don’t know? The fact that he knows he doesn’t know something “proves the statement The only thing I know is I don’t know anything” is a false statement

[@jamespboykin]

I was thinking the same thing

[@boltrooktwo]

You and I are only simple when the world behaves. When something goes wrong we have to look at all the parts and how they work together to face the emergent uncertainty. Tackling and resisting corruption is where people find where God is and has been all along.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

What does it mean to know nothing? How do you function?

[@donaldcoleman514]

if you are not a child of the most high you don't know nothing psalm 147/20 for he has not dealt with any other nation according to the bible the most high never dealt with any other nation and for his judgments they have not known them so you would know nothing

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Well, it appears Donald Coleman would be a perfect example of such an anomaly.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

@@donaldcoleman514 What? I didn't get that.

[@drewmiller8825]

I love this! Such great points

[@mr.s7522]

This discussion was a kind of a scattershot mess because of the students. They didn't know what they wanted to talk about or what they stood for, headache, Stuart and Cliffe did their best

[@thewniverse]

Sometimes students arent prepared (not that thats an excuse for not thinking about "my existence") but i can see how if someone comes in to a situation that person wont be fully prepared. But sometimes these students are well thought out and consistent. But 100% of the time cliffe is just right and not so much Cliffe but God and his word is 100% correct.

[@triplea6174]

Their work will not come back void. The seeds being planted to look Into christ will bear fruit even if little.

[@sharonknechtle1515]

Preach it!!🎉

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but will have everlasting life. ~ John 3:16

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

@Our Savior God bless you too bro. I hope all is well with you.

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

@Our Savior Amen. I'll keep you in my prayers.

[@theomaimba9245]

This was immensely edifying!

[@jessebryant9233]

The trolls should flock to this one "like the salmon of Capistrano" - and say all sorts of inane, fallacious, self-defeating, assumptive things ad nauseam! Looks like Bonnie's are a dime-a-dozen these days. (Proverbs 1:22, 18:2, 26:12, 29:9, etc.)

[@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe]

Their schoolgirl crush on Christians is showing...as they increase the views!

[@jessebryant9233]

@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe They just can't help themselves. They love to hate!

[@gospelwayne6548]

Bless the preacher. Bless the message. Good question. You see we're not the only humans that ever lived because there's been centuries before us. And people aren't stupid a true creator and God wrote on our hearts the truth but we humans suppress it without even knowing it. If you read the Bible there are things written in it that are scientifically incredible even before science these things out. The reason you're able to learn is because God gave you a brain. But you've never seen your brain but you know you have one. A true God exists and he gave us his only begotten son. Do you know him and are you aware of what is written in the Bible. You have a spirit and that's why you are alive in a human body. Wake up and smell the roses. So many people are in darkness. It's amazing they go get University degrees in college degrees but they don't know who created them. Press on preachers and bless you

[@adamcobb7892]

It baffled me that ppl blame God for the world's problems. The world's problems is a sin problem. Humans told God to get and he did and without God chaos and evil fill the gap.

[@trumpbellend6717]

I'm sorry but do you not realise that it was GOD that created evil on the first place. ? 👇👇👇👇 Isaiah 45:7 7 *"I form the light, and create darkness I make peace, and create EVIL I the Lord do all these THINGS"*

[@adamcobb7892]

@@trumpbellend6717 I can not argue the Bible. If that's what it states it's truth. I appreciate you showing me this passage. I still stick to what I said though. God is literally Good. Without God, Good does not exist. In this world we know all things have an opposite. The opposite of good is evil. I'm not a scholar but God uses good and evil things to mature a person so ALL things are used by God. The issue is still the same. Sin. Getting angry with God for evil deeds or situations isn't the way to go about life. Satan is the king of this world for the time being. No sorry needed.

[@hereweare9096]

@@trumpbellend6717 Isiah is a large nook covering many different subjects. Chapter 45 is in reference to Cyrus anointed to capture Babylon verses 1-8. Other translations use the term calamity / bad times etc.

[@MsLaetitia26]

@@trumpbellend6717 God did indeed. In order to make a world you need anything. or the world is not complete. Who would want to leave in a incomplete world? And there's no free will. we will choose between good and good. how can you appreciate someone love if they have no choice but to love you. such a world is ugly and dull. you should read on why evil is necessary. If there were no evil we would not be able to make moral choices and would therefore be incapable of moral growth and development. if that's why you wishing for then we'll be no different than walking machines incapable of complex personality. I love God because such a complex world and minds can only come from a complex God.

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@MsLaetitia26 lol what utter garbage 😂🤣🤣😍🤣 so you think the world would be _"incomplete"_ without bonecancer that causes untold death and suffering to innocent children and their families. ??? 🤔 Tsunamis, earthquakes, countless diseases, famines, floods ect just _"who would want to live in an incomplete world"_ devoid of such things ?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣😍 Tell me dear is there "Evil" in heaven ?? because I hear there is not its "PERFECT" so.......... Does that mean there is no "freewill" in heaven ??? If there is "freewill in heaven then it is possible to have both freewill and NO "Evil" in which case Evil is NOT a necessity. If there is no freewill in heaven then obviously a perfect environment can exist with NO freewill 🤔🙄 *SO WHICH IS IT* ???? As for _"moral choices"_ To me and like minded people "Good" and "Evil" are words used to describe movement or points on a reference standard or scale conceptualised by man that is based upon our shared values like human wellbeing, empathy and equality. Whilst "God" is also a man made concept, the percieved whims of this "God" do not reflect these shared values and thus are irrelevant in any discussion of morality. WHY do you think human reference standards must be "Objective" and "God given" in order to function and serve their purpose ??? Let me give you an analogy, perhaps then you will understand. Our metric reference standards for weights, distance ( kilometers, meters, centimetres ect ) was originaly a man made concept, arbitrary with no divine dictate involved. Yet once it becomes accepted and a consensus reached it functions perfectly. A "meter" is not some vague "about this big" concept that varies dependant on culture or God. We can OBJECTIVELY measure things within our metric reference framework 😜 Precisely the same applies to our moral reference standard, it too requires only an agreed upon reference standard in order to function. Can you think of a better standard to aspire and adhere to than one based upon human well-being, empathy , equality and respect ??? Do you really think it preferable to base it upon the knowledge, moral values and ideologies of Iron age people that believe it moral to .. *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* That a raped girl should be stoned to death for not screaming loud enough along with unruly rebellious children who disobey their parents ( sounds like most teenagers to me ) and the people who gather sticks on the wrong day of the week ??

[@namxhuynh]

May the Lord bless your journey

[@TheNewNationPodcast]

This kid, Jacob thinks hes on a stage. Next

[@sdjung3782]

please preach repentance and believe to Jesus Christ and follow to Christ at last Resurrection Jesus. let God may use all important things by grace of God

[@jessebryant9233]

The secular worldview: "Everyone has thoughts" = human life has value. The absurdity of secularism is just mind blowing! And every resident troll on this channel, provides weekly examples of the legions of believers in such inane nonsense-proudly proclaiming their lack of logical consistency or critical thinking. Those of you who frequent this channel, know who I'm talking about. Most of 'em have already made their weekly appearance and have provided plenty of supporting evidence already, just hours after the video was posted, just as they do every single week. They troll this channel with religious zeal! Why? (John 3:19-20??)

[@jackalsgate1146]

Serial Killers - David Berkowitz: was he valuable.? Boston Strangler: was he valuable.? Ted Bundy: was he valuable.? Jeffrey Dahmer: was he valuable.? John Wayne Gacy: was he valuable.? Ed Gein: was he valuable.? Herman Mudgett: was he valuable.? Aileen Wuornos: was she valuable.? H. H. Holmes: was he valuable.? Tony Ables: was he valuable.? John Agrue: was he valuable.? Charles Albright: was he valuable.? Rodney Alcala: was he valuable.? Herman Allen: was he valuable.? Howard Allen: was he valuable.? Ronald Allridge: was he valuable.? Richard Angelo: was he valuable.? Bender Family: were they valuable.? Velma Barfield: was she valuable.? Shelley Brooks: was she valuable.? Adolf Hitler: was he valuable.? Third Reich: were they valuable.? Lizzie Borden: was she valuable.? Belle Gunness: was she valuable.? Myra Hindley: was she valuable.? Jane Toppan: was she valuable.? Juana Barraza: was she valuable.? Rosemary West: was she valuable.? Amelia Dyer: was she valuable.? Joanna Dennehy: was she valuable.? Dorothea Puente: was she valuable.? Nannie Doss: was she valuable.? Judy Buenoano: was she valuable.? Amy Gilligan: was she valuable.? Joseph Stalin: was he valuable.? Mankind, himself, assigns value to individuals, groups, or cultures. Do you think these people have value.? I don't think these people have value. However, there are people who do think these people have value: mothers, fathers, wives, husbands, children, groupies, fanatics. My life has value; because, everything that exists fights for its survival. Animals (that do not possess consciousness) fight for their survival. Even viruses, will mutate into another strand, in order to survive after vaccines are used to destroy them. Why do you think science invents different flu vaccines every few years.? I assign value to those I think are valuable. I assign worthlessness to those who I think are worthless. And your god has no say in the matter.

[@jessebryant9233]

@@jackalsgate1146 Are YOU valuable? What do YOU mean by "valuable"? Oh, you just make stuff up! If you say something has value, then and only then does it have value? We both know that isn't true...

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@jackalsgate1146 yes, they were all valuable by virtue of their membership in the human race. That's all it takes. Btw, HH Holmes and Herman Mudgett were the same person.

[@jackalsgate1146]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Does Jesus say we should love our life.? Doesn't he say we should hate our life.? I can see Jesus running around saying; "I'm so valuable, see how valuable I am, don't you love how valuable I am." I thought Jesus taught that we shouldn't value our own lives or ourselves (selfishness), but rather, give value to those who are struggling and can't do for themselves, to pull the weeds from our neighbors garden, so they might enjoy a bed of roses.

[@jackalsgate1146]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Really.? They were valuable by virtue of their membership to the human race.? And what virtue did they contribute, cause, we all know that virtue (morality, merit, decency) is calibrated by how many people you slaughtered. So serial killers, by their virtue (decency, merit, morality) of being a member of the human race, are valuable.? To kill a bunch of people is a virtue now.? Hitler was a virtue to the human race.? Stalin was a virtue to the human race.? Dude . . . if that's what flips your boat; then, shine on, you crazy wonderful kid, you.

[@davedavid2914]

God bless you cliff and stuart

[@PilotCristina]

The Bible doesn’t have any contradictions. I was hoping Stewart would have talked to him about that more.

[@Generatorman59]

Well, the bible does have contradictions within itself and it contradicts what we conclude from science.

[@lycanthropegaming3432]

@@Generatorman59 Definitely not. List the scripture that contradicts science.

[@jessebryant9233]

@@Generatorman59 No it doesn't.

[@jessebryant9233]

@@Generatorman59 However, your naturalistic faith is inconsistent and anything but scientific-and we both know it.

[@Generatorman59]

@@lycanthropegaming3432 Gee, it's not hard to make a list of things in the bible that contradicts what science believes to be true. Let's see, the bible says the earth was formed before any of the stars. The bible says this planet was populated with vegetation before our sun existed. The bible says Balaam had a 2-way conversation with his donkey. How can anyone seriously say that the bible doesn't contradict science?

[@dyastitu1358]

Some people try to question and argue about Jesus Christ but never learn about it. They lived their life and suddenly asked why God made people suffer, then they talked about morals and do nothing for other human being. Some people like to prove their point instead of discussing.

[@FoUrMuLaTe]

67. “Do not strive to know more than your brothers. Know that all of you acquire knowledge according to your evolution. If I were to grant you My light without you have achieved merits, you would glorify yourselves and become lost in your vanity and your knowledge would be false.” 68. “I want you humble, but in order to be humble before Me, you should also manifest humility before your fellow men.” Chapter 60, 67-68 “My Word will remain written for all time; with it you will form the book of the Third Era, The Third Testament, the final message from the Father; for in the Three Eras, God wielded His "Golden Scribes" to leave His wisdom to Humanity.” Chapter 6, 37

[@J0PHIEL]

lol I would not be able to handle these people, my goodness..you guys have some incredible patience. They go in circles, contradict, and just disagree just cause. nothing to say but just want to disagree.

[@shuccle6161]

Cliffe: "you bet" *smacks back* Love these little playful moments lol good humor and spirits. Hard to tell if it's staged or they just have these discussions a lot?

[@discipleteo3763]

Cliffe has been doing this since the 80’s

[@donaldcoleman514]

its stage psalm 147 /19/20 he show his words to Jacob and his statutes and judgments to Israel according to the bible the most high show his words statutes and judgments to Israel never mention no other nation unless you can show me in scripture where it say he did let's continue for he has not dealt with any other nation and for his judgments they have not known them according to the bible the most high never dealt with any other nation and for his words statutes and judgments they have not known so he know nothing about the words statutes or judgments YES its staged

[@JoshuaWilliams_]

We are told to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and that we be reconciled unto him... If we do what God hates how yet can we say we love him with all our heart, mind and soul as we were commanded to do. Jesus and the disciples taught the law of Moses and Jesus even said your thoughts should be bridled and controlled. If someone pays your fine and the judge frees you it is not so you can continue the crimes that brought upon you the fine. If you are reconciled to the father of whom you were seperated from because of your sinful actions it hardly makes logical sense that you are reconciled to him to continue in those same sinful actions. We are meant to be dead to sin and not living in it - not following two masters but crucifying the fleshly desires and seeking the spiritual The second coming of Yeshua (The Messiah, Christ, Jesus) is coming near, Please all who say they are of Christ read these verses below and seek the truth; the truth that all transgression of the law is sin and none of the laws of Moses were done away with, the truth that Yeshua (Jesus) himself states that he does not abolish any of the laws of his father (he himself is the word, the law and so to say you abide in him yet not all the law makes ye a liar). Read the verses below that speak of God unchanging and of how we are meant to walk as Christ walks and hence following the commandments of God given to Moses including the vast expanse of Leviticus (of course Yeshua caused for such as blood sacrifices to be finished as he became the atoning sacrifice). If you seek to truly love and serve God, Jesus and the holy spirit in full truth I implore you also seek teachings such as those about Sabbath's from 119 ministries, Jim Staley, Rico Cortes, bill Cloud, brad Scott and others... Another vital and important teaching would also be "Truth or Tradition" by Jim Staley. Any who believe that the words of Paul and others including Yeshua (Jesus) himself change or abolish laws.... I can tell you there are deep contextual understandings required and that many of the verses you have heard have been plucked out leaving the verses that add the necessary context to be sitting in the book - but alongside this there is a deep culture and context in the era the scriptures were written that if you lack the understanding of will cause you to misunderstand the true meaning of the scriptures today with Paul's writing's requiring much of that understanding although if you remember it was false accusations that he was teaching against the laws of Moses and see that it should give you an idea as to how Paul has been misinterpreted by the current churches with many going against the Bible's very verses stating clearly such were false accusations. Remember also that Yeshua (Jesus) actually spoke that even thoughts are counted as to iniquity (sin) and such makes sense if we are to love God with all our heart, mind and soul... We are implored to hold our very thoughts unto his ways and his standards also. May God guide and bless those with open and truth seeking hearts that desire to love him truly to allow them to read these words here and these scriptures and to walk in full repentance as God truly desires 🙏🏽 2 Timothy 2:19 CJB Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, stamped with these words: “The Lord knows his own,” and, “Let everyone who claims he belongs to the Lord stand apart from wrongdoing.” Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 5:17-22 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire. Mark 9:43‭-47 CJB If your hand makes you sin, cut it off! Better that you should be maimed but obtain eternal life, rather than keep both hands and go to Gei-Hinnom, to unquenchable fire! And if your foot makes you sin, cut it off! Better that you should be lame but obtain eternal life, rather than keep both feet and be thrown into Gei-Hinnom! And if your eye makes you sin, pluck it out! Better that you should be one-eyed but enter the Kingdom of God, rather than keep both eyes and be thrown into Gei-Hinnom, 1 John 2:3-6 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments. Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? James 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Matthew 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Mark 7:8-9 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men-the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do." He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition Luke 17:3 ESV Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him Ezekiel 18:30-32 ESV “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, declares the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin. Cast away from you all the transgressions that you have committed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! Why will you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord God; so turn, and live.” Messianic Jews (Heb) 6:1‭-‬8 CJB Therefore, leaving behind the initial lessons about the Messiah, let us go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of turning from works that lead to death, trusting God, and instruction about washings, s’mikhah, the resurrection of the dead and eternal punishment. And, God willing, this is what we will do. For when people have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become sharers in the Ruach HaKodesh, and tasted the goodness of God’s Word and the powers of the ‘olam haba - and then have fallen away - it is impossible to renew them so that they turn from their sin, as long as for themselves they keep executing the Son of God on the stake all over again and keep holding him up to public contempt. For the land that soaks up frequent rains and then brings forth a crop useful to its owners receives a blessing from God; but if it keeps producing thorns and thistles, it fails the test and is close to being cursed; in the end, it will be burned. Acts 3:19 ESV Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out Matthew 4:17 ESV From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” 2 Peter 3:9 ESV The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. Matthew 3:8 ESV Bear fruit in keeping with repentance Revelation 2:5 ESV Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent. Ezekiel 18:21-23 ESV “But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? Colossians 3:5-6 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

[@whodatdere]

Way to make him think Stuart! Good job.

[@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024]

Stuart mentioned the Proud Boys. I'm no expert on the Proud Boys, but from what I've encountered, a significant amount of the things said about them (negative things) are misleading if not false. I have a lot of respect for Stuart, he doesn't strike me as someone who would intentionally malign a group of people who aren't deserving of that degree of accusation. Considering it was brought up as something crossed his mind during him talking about something that wasn't primarily focused on the Proud Boys, my guess is it was an innocent remark.

[@fishjj76]

The Proud Boys are a neo-fascist white nationalist all male group. They promote violence and were intimately involved in the events of January 6th. They are terrorists who should be condemned.

[@chapelmontoya7232]

Loved it!

[@skippy675]

Yes, in a way. We could have doubt about the nature of the "reality" we experience. That it could all be just an elaborate simulation in which all of our "memories" and "experiences" are programmed. That our entire brain is rewritten every few seconds with artificial experiences. In this way we can only assume that anything is knowable, but never know for sure.

[@kilervgmmm]

Live it out.

[@sidwhiting665]

@@kilervgmmm , same view here. If Sean really is living in an artificial reality that changes from one moment to the next, then I'll gladly take his bank account and he will get reprogrammed to never know he gave it to me. Should work out fine, right? *grins

[@dial3ctric327]

Jacob tho 🤣 God bless y'all sisters & brethren watching 🙏

[@michaeljdt9235]

Cliffs been rocking that blue shirt 👕 a lot

[@a6m3reisen8]

I got to say usually agree with you but saying the proud boys are just hateful gonna need receipts on that one

[@SHADOWSCOOp2829]

Amen 🙏🏼

[@puravidaforchildren4847]

Stuart!!

[@1d2y]

Jacob the embodiment of contraction 😂

[@sdjung3782]

please don't worry anything answer holy spirit working in you both submit to lord and God bless you all

[@2Morethings]

a good conversation that you can absolutely prove your beliefs are real and that they can't provide a real answer not to believe in christ they dance arrond the fact christ is so real God have mercy on their soul at end of time please my lord they do not see you yet

[@theoskeptomai2535]

I am not convinced in the existence of any god for I have never encountered _any_ credible evidence, including _any_ sound argument, that suggests such an existence. Therefore, I will suspend any acknowledgement as to the existence of a god _until_ such evidence or argument is introduced. Am I not rationally justified in my position?

[@sarahflanagan6679]

Great one guys!

[@user-fb5vg4zw1p]

Time to make some new videos, guys. We want to see the world back to normal, you two out in the sunshine on campus.

[@jesuslovesyou4634]

Love this!

[@cullenkrishna5068]

At 7:40 Jacob really tried to get a quick stab at the Bible without getting proven wrong

[@xmessenger_7718]

Matthew 4:17 17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”

[@kehindesalako2168]

What is death? I needed to replace this question, what happens after death?, with the question above, because we cannot know what happens after death unless we know what death is or unless we answer that ontological question first; For if we do not know what death is, then we cannot know what may happen after it. Which is why the first question ought to be: what is death? And not: What happens after death? So: What is death? Here's what i think or briefly: Death is the disintegration of the cells and tissues of the body. Thus if you (or that conscious mental being) cannot be equated with the body, then you cannot die. Moreover you or that conscious mental being cannot be equated with the body; particularly because there is a distinction between the body and that consciousness mental being. And subsequently you cannot die. Therefore you are immortal. Given this, we may answer the second question or this question, what happens after death?, as follows: You live on after the death of the body. Or you become a disembodied soul after the biological death of the biological death. However where you spend the rest of your disembodied state is dependent on whether you believed God's testimony about Jesus Christ when you were in your body or not. This is partly what happens after the death of the biological body. Which is why we exhort you to acknowledge your sins, confess your sins, show remorse, repent, and place your faith in Jesus Christ Bedford you become a disembodied soul. 💖

[@bonnie43uk]

Other opinions are available.

[@kehindesalako2168]

True! But are they plausible and coherent?

[@bonnie43uk]

@@kehindesalako2168 I think so.

[@kehindesalako2168]

@@bonnie43ukI see!

[@micksundog]

I grew up in Saudi Arabia. You will not convince me of "how well" muslims treat their women.

[@knxcholx]

Well Jacob is not at all a friend I'd want. "you're valuable because I say so" no thank you

[@anna-mariescheepers382]

To the students! Remember Dispensationalism. God spoke to the Jews, then to the Gentiles, to the Unbelievers. Every word is not for everyone. You need to see it in the context of the word written. One thing I can say. No matter how much you read - if you do not want it to be true, you will not find your answer. BUT if you want God to answer you and make you understand, HE WILL REVEAL to you... and not ONCE have I been disappointed. You go to Grade 1... you will never understand the matrics work... Do not try to understand the Bible in all... The more you read, the more it becomes real, TRUE and relevant to your problem or question. I also learn by watching these debates!😊🙏

[@PaulRizzo]

Mic drop after mic drop Stuart.

[@darksideluseefar5803]

Miracle

[@snaptrap5558]

1:30 "You're attacking a strawman." You literally just strawmanned the definition for agnostic just a second earlier.

[@iamthasecond]

Man said "I know that I know nothing" 💀💀

[@1d2y]

How does he KNOW he knows nothing 😂 does he really know that?

[@rowdyproudy2242]

Proud Boys aren't hateful.

[@sky-fb2br]

lost cause lack of faith...? or lost cause of life choices?.more wrong choices, more suffering...more evil doings more suffering...

[@SINQUEFIELD83]

Everyone wants their own identity while wanting to live in a like minded tribe. It is a delicate situation

[@alejandros.4654]

I would like to say that Jacob (in the video) said, "I know nothing" it showed that Jacob is humbled but you gaved him pride by endorsing him by calling him smart.

[@triplea6174]

Not necessarily the same in giving him pride. But rather showing his inconsistency on knowing nothing/ his stance.

[@alejandros.4654]

@@triplea6174 Oh yeah, that is true. Beautiful God is with his gifts that he gaved us. But I just wanted to point out the thing that people do to each other like endorsing one another is giving pride to one another. Like cliff was saying that no Jacob your smart, but i won't do that because of this verse Galatians 6:3 If anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he decieves himself. This verse sounds awful at first but it relieving.

[@triplea6174]

I see what you're saying but the way cliffe said it to the student is a different context/situation

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

The way Jacob says he knows nothing was a cop out for his lack of knowledge of the word of God, hence the reason why most of his arguments are based on a personal opinion that stems from himself...this is the same reason why in most of cliffes debates with these students have more questions then rebuttals, so if cliffe debunks a question another silly question pops up

[@wordunfiltered]

Jacob be performing when he speaks Lol. I love him and his dramatics although I don't agree with him.

[@drewseaver4531]

Right! If he were ever to be saved by Jesus and accept it, he would be such a great evangelist

[@vtchevalier]

Jacob is a regular iykyk

[@andrewstidham7950]

All we know have known and will know is just a speck of dust and probably less compared to what God knows..

[@Jillian1stJohn3-9-10]

Why do people always say God is supposed to be all loving? When the Bible says quite the opposite regarding his enemies that refuse to obey him and follow after their sinful flesh. He loves those who fully trust in him.. but that doesn't mean they won't experience difficulties in this life.

[@curiousgeorge555]

amen

[@jasonmacneil2256]

Oh Brother, Jacob thinks he's on a stage doing hamlet. He needs to get right with God and change that lifestyle he's so wrongly attracted to!

[@streetwatcher_]

If your isolated yes

[@manuaiipondraken8376]

It's very clear that the argument of an atheist is very weak compare to that of a theist with regards to marality.

[@trumpbellend6717]

Lol oh really, please elaborate.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Yes. Please elaborate.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

I'll elaborate. However, I'll have rework the framework. The atheistic argument for objective moral values and duties is far weaker than the theistic one. So, the elaboration is this. The theistic argument for objective moral values and duties is that there is an transcendent grounding of what IS right and what IS wrong. And the atheistic arguments is that there is no transcendent grounding of what IS right and what IS wrong. However, if one wants to deny that some moral values are, in fact, objective then they can refrain from taking part in the conversation.

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 lol you did not elaborate, you just made more baseless assertions and then stated that those who disagree with your position can't enter into the discourse 🤣😅🤣😅😅 way to go cupcake

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 "Values" are subjective by definition.

[@snaptrap5558]

Every human is intrinsically valuable, that's why God wiped them all out except for 8 people.