Kill Team Starter Set Announced - MDF terrain Space Marines and DEATH GUARD

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[@majortom7186]

11:20 My bet is this is a proof of concept. MDF has the capacity to really bring down the cost of starters and lower barriers to entry, especially if it's colour printed so it looks great.

[@noblegalifreyan4551]

Bring down the coat doesn't mean it will be cheaper for you the customer

[@majortom7186]

@@noblegalifreyan4551 my bet is it will be. GW aren’t stupid. They know that expensive boxes mean less people buying their products. If they can reduce the cost to the consumer without reducing their profitability I’m sure they will.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

@@majortom7186 we can hope. I’m also willing to bet the MDF can be produced in-house (in the UK) instead of having terrain made in China & shipped to the UK for packing & distribution.

[@FelisMachina]

Less cost for GW, same price as with plastic terrain for consumers.

[@Grooviebones]

GW is a publicly traded company, meaning they need perpetual profit growth forever. MDF board gives them another cost cutting source of profits whilst likely offering no savings to their customers.

[@Ranzarok]

IMO, this is what a starter box should be. Of course it could all change when they release the price, but I am guessing it will be around $100-150 USD, which to try and entice new players, is a better option than $200+

[@hugheja89]

Plague marine question mark

[@elise-3198]

The MDF terrain from the World Team Championship was really good, and did have vantage points.

[@TheEr910]

MDF terrain in Starter set makes sense. They should do more of it.

[@nickrafuse984]

I think the MDF is either an experiment to see how well MDF terrain is received, or they couldn't include any of the volkus plastic in the starter set since there wasn't the right combination on a single sprue. Wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the new standard in starter sets across the range. would work for a spearhead starter set too.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Accurate 2 Hello! This is honestly a win for GW. They get to reuse those sprues from those two Space Marine Heroes sets. The MDF terrain is an interesting twist, but hopefully it’ll help keep the cost down.

[@TheTopo8798]

Death guard were available outside the Japan, at least in europe. It was something like one time drop.

[@GrimSeraph9253]

There were plenty in New Zealand as well. Maybe just not the US?

[@614Amsterdam]

They dropped twice in the US. One without the plaguecaster and the second time with. I got a case and 2 extras from a local Warhammer store when we were all clambering for them (ended up selling dupes a few weeks ago thank god)

[@majortom7186]

This is brilliant news. I'm almost sad I don't need it. This is going to be fantastic for the game.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Yeah, I already have those plague marines (sans sorcerer).

[@IgnacioGlezCllo]

same here; kinda miffed I've already got my (proxy) Angels of Death, but really kinda tempted to get this.

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

I loved the “wet bang” joke, followed by the barely-audible “Kill me”. Also, Plague Marines?

[@CMTechnica]

I bought Hivestorm because I’m a sucker for good terrain, and the aquilons look awesome. Hopefully, being a starter set, it’s available for the entire edition, because being able to get (what used to be) Strike Force Justinian, *and* the Death Guard heroes from an age ago, is more than enough of a selling point for me. I’m not hurting for intercessors, but having those unique poses would be nice.

[@wesleygillis5061]

I remember your video where you were asking how we’d be able to purchase the Angels of Death team, and this is such a great answer to that!

[@GlassHalfDead]

I would have liked for them to tell us this ahead of time in one of the preview articles. Just a lil "don't worry, AoD will be available for purchase "soon" " or something. Just to stop people panic buying £200 worth of models to make one for the new edition. But yes, this solves the problem handily!

[@aardvarkpepper7660]

As to MDF terrain and a lot of other things, I consider it a question of value. What is value? Having to pay a yearly subscription for things you didn't have to pay a yearly subscription for before? Buying $1500+ worth of rulebooks every three years for each system? (Not an exaggeration, price it out.) What about paying $200 for terrain, or even at 70% off, $60 for terrain that you can build yourself for $30 or less of raw materials, if that? How about models that are made obsolete within months, whether by being turned into "Legends" or when a rule update (which happen quite more regularly than every three years) renders the models a poor choice in a shifting meta? (So not only changes in your army list, but changes in other army lists can be an issue for a competitive player). Plastic terrain is pricey and relatively difficult to transport. Doesn't fold flat, and pieces easily damaged in transport (even if only minor damage), and even when storing at home, it takes up space. Contrast to MDF, perhaps with slots for multi-level buildings. Doesn't look as nice as painted plastic with extra finishing touches, granted. But it doesn't need to be painted, folds flat, takes up very little storage space, is easily transportable, and is cheaper. I also think the ready-to-go aspect is much more appropriate to a starter box set; you can have hunks of gray plastic moving around gray plastic terrain, or maybe hunks of gray plastic at least moving around in something that has a little color and sets the mood.

[@LegendayKillstreak]

Our time has come! Nurgle will rise in his disgusting glory!

[@thewynnest]

Glad were back! Been away, for what, a month? 🤣

[@eric_intotheunknown]

Given I built my Plague Marines with Legionaries in mind, I'll have to see if I've got the right minis now, lol! But, hey, means Grandpa Nurgle has a kill team ready to roll for 6 years.

[@seanalonzo9244]

Just so glad I won't have to hear "play them as Nurgle Legionaries."

[@eric_intotheunknown]

@@seanalonzo9244 Very true! Thought I had a really nice Shrivetalon Plague Marine done up.

[@alexfilmwriting]

If it's pre-printed MDF (in color) then I'm not against this type of terrain in the box. Flat-pack, easy to put together and proves to new players that your battlefield can be a mixed-media layout. No reason you couldn't do a mix of plastic center pieces and MDF scatter terrain. We've complained about lack of terrain in other sets and that may help fill the gap.

[@Darkshadow64540]

Color printed mdf terrain has been available for a couple years, I got my WTC killteam set from Bandua Wargames.

[@corkey2077]

I managed to get both of these teams from the UK Justin is still sealed on my shelves of shame The plague marines were available in the Warhammer store for a limited run (no sorcerer)

[@telboysrantsandbants4077]

I sold all my kill team stuff when age of sigmar 4.0 dropped as i didn't see myself playing it as much. Then they went and rebooted kill team and i thought about hivestorm but decided i had enough on my hooby plate.....but then sexy dirty plague marines turned up.

[@TheEr910]

Dammit GW. I just declared I'm not buying more GW boxed sets, you announce a box with two Space Marine Heroes sets I don't fully have. Death Guard is my jam.

[@thedimensionsrunner2655]

The complete DG KT (with plaque caster) was available in germany some time ago.

[@Naddabeht]

This will be my entry into kill team, your videos have gotten me interested, and I think this set will get me into the game

[@grisch4329]

While MDF terrain revolts me it's great for making this whole thing accessible and it fits in a total newbie starter box like this. I really hope that makes the box significantly cheaper too. If GW starts putting MDF terrain in more than just the lowest level starters, I'll be pretty upset. Even more so if they sell us MDF terrain and charge their regular prices for it.

[@chetmanley1885]

Hey you can make Angels of Death without buying 4 boxes of minis, this is great. I just build my Angels of Death though, and they're a good chapter, not generoc blueberries. The last starter box was a bargain at £67.50 retail, hopefully this is also priced similarly as an entry point.

[@QuayNemSorr]

I've been wanting an AoD team for a while, but I didn't want to buy 4 or 5 different boxes! I plan on making every one of them from a different chapter, like they picked the best of the best across the board. A bit like the Death Watch.

[@Winstonatoor]

I'm excited. I still need to finish upgrading my intercessor team to this edition. Buying singles off eBay was looking to be expensive. I'm pro MDF, I would buy into the dark with MDF.

[@ShadowCoH316]

LETS GO very excited to see plague marines getting a team out of this. Hoping the rules are as extensive as the Angels of Death team and will have operative selections that fit the customizable plague marine kit you can normally buy.

[@craggylotus]

Very happy to get a cheaper way to get those Death Guard Heroes, and nice of them to throw in Strike Force Justin and some MDF walls too.

[@HappyDuude]

Should have learned lesson from skaventide - it seems like they are releasing a better scoped starter box, after the launch box - which is way more targeted for getting up and running

[@zunuf]

I think it's great. I love the big hive storm box, but I've felt like the teams and cost aren't the best to get new players interested. Space marines versus Tyrranid Kill Teams would have been amazing to launch with Space Marine 2, but I'm happy to have an easier way to get these models. Hopefully they're putting a lot of work into a dedicated tyranid team.

[@MrKakemann1]

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, but Bandua Wargames sells mdf terrain. Bought their version of octarius. Great product.

[@chadnine3432]

pre-printed MDF terrain? About time GW caught up to the rest of the wargaming hobby. :D

[@slackeratlarge575]

Death guard and justian!!! Let’s go!

[@dejawukong]

I feel my only issue with it being plague marines is legionaries already pretty much all go nurgle anyway so would have liked to see a different chaos space marine choice

[@freeformroo3645]

GW tournament MDF terrain incoming

[@daili4917]

Hopefully this'll please the death guard players who've been doomposting for weeks. I love the double hello, as always, miss the circle-hello, I'm unsure about accurate 2 hello - if we're going to update it, at least use Devastating 2 hello (Devastating 2" hello would be a bit much mind!).

[@evileyeball]

In canada you could only buy Justian at Gamestop Thats Wrong about the Deathguard heroes.... The Plague Caster was Japan only the other guys were not and then when they came out again they added the plague caster and released them in more places. I got TWO boxes of them One from my canadian FLGS and one from my Canadian GW. (The ones from GW went imediately into a box and got mailed to my brother who lives in a remote northern town)

[@jonasbarka]

The Plague Marines was released outside Japan. Got mine from a Swedish retailer. They were of course gone in a minute.

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

This looks good, hope GW prices it so it sells, and actually makes enough for once.

[@RundOnline]

It's a starter set. Open the box, push together and play within a hour. MDF is a good idea.

[@krelekari]

I really hope this is an attempt to get the starter boxes back under 200 some bucks glad I split hivestorm with my roommate, but idk if I can afford another big box when they're that pricy. Hope this is cheaper, i'd LOVE to use this as an excuse to get my first set of space marines

[@GlassHalfDead]

GW starter box products are priced around... $115 for this, I believe

[@kj869]

MDF terrain has big avantage in turn around time for profuction and easier/cheaper to do smaller runs more often and outsourcing is easier leaving More production capacity in plastic free for other products

[@Desmotwin]

99% sure 2nd Ed starter box (vetguard/commandos) had a paper mat. Which was actually nice for playing games while traveling

[@slackeratlarge575]

I have both these teams already. Don’t care. Will be buying it again. Let the hype begin!

[@tonynoon8693]

I am betting this is going to retail around $100 US. The push-together models that look to be these same models were released in the US 5 or 6 years ago. They were significantly cheaper to buy than regular models. The rule book looks like the Kill Team light rules with some scenarios, fluff, and probably how-to-play examples as well as the rules for each faction and art. I bet there are no extra rules for terrain or special rules beyond these models. That being said, I like the MDF terrain. If it is in the $100 range, it would be worth it, to just have a couple of extra teams around, to change things up.

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

Like this set, it should be good for a lot of people starting out... Also like the pre printed flat pack mdf terrain, amd might get this set for that and the SM team... not sure I want DG, but don't have any plague marines, so I may get to like them as well... Just kinda wish it had the full core book , but... I want a core book, might have to see if I can score one from Hivestorm instead of the hardback book.

[@retnuHDJ]

I just recently got the Hivestorm box so there's no way I can justify spending any more money on Kill Team just now, but I really want those Death Guard models! Fingers crossed they get released as separate boxes at some point

[@WhiskeyDingo-2018]

Here for the algorithm!

[@BloodKraven]

I got the death guard guys in the UK there was a week they were released as a set but like each store got 1 box. There was 8 models so you got all 7 and a random extra one.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Yes, having been reminded of this, I remember it now. my local store got 1 box that had been immediately purchased. A very token effort!

[@EdgePliskin]

Now on the Website: CORRECTION: A previous version of this article published incorrect images of the token sheet included in this box. The correct tokens are now shown.

[@sickboi11111]

They released the whole set of death guard heros in the UK at the start of last year IIRC

[@GlassHalfDead]

Yes, having been reminded of this, I remember it now. my local store got 1 box that had been immediately purchased. A very token effort!

[@savagepanda1990]

Glad I spent over 200 bucks to make this kill team out of the space marine heroes blind boxes. Still gonna buy it for another malignant plague caster

[@thewynnest]

I think keeping the cost down on that terrain is great for beginners. Super happy to see Death Guard return but i do hope they'll release the teams seperately tho!

[@keithraymond1781]

Looks like a great way to get these hard to get models but the Strike force Justian technically can't be an accurate angels of death kill team. You can't run heavy and sniper or captain and sergeant at the same time. You would have to use the sergeant model as a normal warrior with only 7 models in the box.

[@Riddler_von]

I’m a bit pissed, because I got the plague marines by buying the whole set. Then I got the Justian set by buying them separately did get a couple doubles which I traded and had to hunt down the captain separately but got a decent price, I thought. Now it’s all here and I haven’t even built or painted the ones I got.

[@omnissiahGaspar]

what is this 8th edition?

[@kerrrobin]

Plague Marine question mark. Hydrating?

[@timdowdell4510]

I think msg terrain is great for a starter set and for someone starting out

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

While I am glad I can play my deathguard in KT again, I swear if I start seeing MDF in my combat patrols/Christmas bundles/ battle force boxes I will cry

[@EvilBearSkirmish]

prob a production test, issue with laser cut in the past for me was cool down times interupting production.

[@mandyd9681]

I didnt see the email right away, I think the MDF terrain will just get better if this does well.

[@fidalf99]

I wanted to start playing 40K with Kill team but didn't because of the price of Hivestorm. This is actually really good and I think I'm gonna get it.

[@Docktavion]

I had hoped the Deathguard were new sculpts but still fun being the hero range. So annoying I’ve already got many of them especially several copies of the standard. So was a real shame when they then dropped squads having standards 😅. For me, I doubt I will get the box but will look out for the tokens and character sheets to use separately.

[@midlife_mtb]

I just started reading the article, then I thought wth am I doing, I can listen to Andy read the article! And you didnt dissapoint...I want to know the price...not interested in the MDF terrain though, but damn I want the justian marines! edit: they have fobbed us off with a paper mat before in the last starter set, I reckon thats gonna be paper...

[@Maidez09]

So are the Death Guard marines considered a new kill team? Where do they slot in on the classified timeline?

[@TheDogman-k928]

I ordered a box of death guard 2 days ago to kitbash a Legionaries team…

[@TehCorbzor]

They have now changed the pic with the token sheet. Took out the vespid one.

[@GeoffSavory]

Very strong rumour suggests price will be £65.00

[@Questioningbasics]

This will sell out day 1 if true. I suspect £80

[@sadis72]

If they wanted to make a bang with the mdf terrain they could of at least made it Interesting terrain

[@JimCrimmins]

This is a terrific choice for GW.. I'm kinda shocked.. This makes all kinds of sense. I'm in the middle of proxying Grey Knights for an Angels of Death team but may just pick this up for the two teams. If the price point isn't crazy this is a no brainer

[@d-rex7043]

This is a 'disaster' for me, as I own Justian/Intercessors and was about to buy the Assault Intercessors today, to complete the team. I was looking forward to some nice savings/'teams I shouldn't get, but will'. Awesome for newer players, though. I do have poxwalkers from Darktide, so I wonder if they can be used with the Plague Marines...? The extra terrain would be a bonus, since I've got a Hivestorm in the LGS. I prefer the plastic, but I think the MDF is good for starters and extras.

[@wvjeepguy8178]

If they ever do a Plague Guard vs Adeptus Mechanicus box, I think they will draw in a lot of us fence-sitter edgelords.

[@wamspride]

Double hello isnt enough we want more

[@theanimaster]

That unique Deathguard Plague Caster model currently goes for $90 on average on eBay. Let’s see if that price drops now that it’s not going to be as unique as it used to be…

[@eugeniusgenx]

When? When are they coming out???

[@kennethp1423]

I might be interested in MDF if the price is reasonable

[@VictorFox250]

If the price is fair, i will buy it.

[@rambunctiousmedia3350]

As long as Strike Force Justinian and the Plague Marines aren't monopose, but can be mixed and matched, this new starter set will be have staying power.

[@d-rex7043]

"This package contains 14 push-fit miniatures in two teams"

[@GlassHalfDead]

They are 100% monopose. This is known about the sprues they're releasing.

[@majortom7186]

13:55 Don't sit on the fence there 😆

[@leejamesburns]

Nurgle hello!

[@chromarush1749]

Neat, I'll be able to get twice the killteam out of my legionaries.

[@mikilgene3851]

Will they be selling the hive storm terrain on its own in the future? I’m not really interested in the new teams

[@Questioningbasics]

There should be a Killzone: Volkus box.

[@morridin8]

I want it. I hope it is the same price as the previous starter.

[@vinterbjork4128]

MDF... I like it!

[@HappyDuude]

Also, GeeDubs subscribed to GlassHalfDead confirmed, already up: CORRECTION: A previous version of this article published incorrect images of the token sheet included in this box. The correct tokens are now shown.

[@Lirretobb]

Which is to say... Purely the 1 generic sheet. So no team-specific tokens.

[@IgnacioGlezCllo]

I only really care for SM, tbh, but having an extra army (Death Guard) would be cool

[@Ulfhednir9]

Gimme them smelly boys. I hope they can still take poxwalkers or even Nurgle Deamons

[@mattvucu6706]

More elites for you baby ! Gtfo xenos

[@Xaeros91]

This seem to target as big of an audience as possible to get into Kill Team and maybe even the wargaming hobby as a whole haha 1. Angels of Death & Death Guard that veterans want 2. Both teams will be the easiest to play of all bespoke teams, which beginners want 3. Mdf to keep price to a minimum (hopefully) will make veterans buy it for the teams 4. Mdf pre-painted and without vantage will lower the barrier of entry for new people as they could maybe include the lite rules that don’t use vantage or obscuring, making it extra easy for new players

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Now I’ll have to stop complaining about no Death Guard team. Switching over to complaining about no Tyranid team.

[@Colorcrayons]

Precision 2 hello. MDF isnt bad, especially for a starter. Kinda like the halo flashpoint stuff can be a great choice. This one less so than halo. I have zero interest in KT though, and this set certainly doesnt change my mind. But it isnt "bad", just a turn they generally dont do. Blind box minis repackaged with MDF terrain. It's now a thing I suppose.

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Shouldn’t be a “triple goodbye”, since you’re signing off?

[@StCuthbertsHands]

Don't get a lunch break so Yea, that doesn't fit. Mdf terrain isn't a terrible idea, we have a cad printed set in our group from kt1st ed and it's great. Plage marines?

[@paladinpariah325]

A box to dump overstock! It comes with cardboard terrain for the same price as hard plastic! Where do I sign up?!?!?!?

[@grisch4329]

The original recruit edition was crazy cheap for what you got. If this set does come in cheap, it's worth it. Someone in the comments mentioned rumours of 65 Brexit Vouchers for the whole thing. If so, that should translate well into US Freedom Bucks and Canadian Apology notes. But if it's NOT dirt cheap, then it would just be offensive.

[@paladinpariah325]

@@grisch4329 You're still literally buying trash for your money.

[@grisch4329]

@@paladinpariah325 Well yes... in a rational context paying what we do for plastic soldiers is utter idiocy, however you're amongst GW customers here, so lets leave rational thought at the door please.

[@paladinpariah325]

@@grisch4329 That's the tragedy... GW customers are a whole different level of ignorant and suckerable.

[@Cowgirlsteve26]

I went out of my way to kitbash a black templar angel of death team but this looks interesting.. maybe i can split it with a buddy and he can take Justian and ill snag the plague marines

[@Reesily]

I still don’t understand why they don’t do card terrain. Some of the best terrain I ever had was the card stuff in the first necromunda box in the 90s

[@Jackman0205]

Plague marine question mark

[@seanalonzo9244]

The video being 14 minutes pleases Nurgle. 21 would have been better but its fine.

[@shushurus]

plague marines!!

[@ianbabcock6802]

I’m conflicted on this box. On one hand I’d like to have the models. On the other, I don’t need the other stuff.

[@GlassHalfDead]

ebay!