Kill Team Hivestorm And 2024 Edition REVIEW

[@GlassHalfDead]

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[@HLLTAF]

I'm back checking out your channel cause I'm getting back into KT! Looking forward to following you!

[@Mathew2792]

Glorious thumbnail

[@stampedelen]

Pre-ordered. Finally giving GW a real chance. Noticed 40k for the first time in -97 or -98, and instantly wanted to try. To expensive for a small kid. Only got a magasine with all the fractions, and read it until it fell apart. Read a review for the pc version in PC Gamer about the same time. Same story. Looked into 40k over the years but never go any. "Stumbled" over the rules for learning scenarios some years ago and built a lego version. Found out about kill team 2 months ago, and really like the you go I go game play. Finding out about hivestorm with solo (teach myself) and co-op (teach my kids), it felt like it was time to give it a proper go after ~25 years on the fence. 😅 Hoping to enjoy the game mechanics and yet another hobby I don't have enough time for.

[@leejamesburns]

Hope you have a great time with it! I play quite a few GW and non-GW games and Kill Team stands up well imo. The main issue with the last edition was the interminable rules writing. If they've sorted some of that then it's a massive plus.

[@Lirretobb]

Awesome. Some of the mechanics feel so solid and thematic: Engage vs Conceal; melee fighting. Have fun

[@On_the_8th_day]

Dude. This was so good. Thank you. Been hosting a regular kill team meet here in Bristol since octarius. The way the game fell into a sweat pit of playing into OP team after OP team really killed the joy. I am really excited for this edition. Having listened into one of our group teach line of sight to a new guy for the hundredth time the other day I found myself wishing this new edition would streamline this interaction for anyone else who will join us in the future.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Many thanks! But I hope they find the how to play videos useful too after this one gets them in!

[@MrKakemann1]

"Finally the double hello, has come back, to GlassHalfDead!" (Read out loud with the voice of the Rock)

[@leilacoffing941]

"run a narrative train on me that cannot be ignored" 💀💀💀

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@leilacoffing941 easily my favourite line of the video!

[@solarupdraft]

Well that thumbnail would make the emperor and greater good both proud at the same time

[@heads2gether]

Pre-ordered. Very excited for the terrain and the rules that seem to make good use of it

[@franciscadigan3876]

I have pre-ordered it, my sister will get the vespids and I get the aquilons and we play together. I'm a non-competetive kill team player and also use those models for One Page Rules and have even made extra rules and teams for Grimdark Future Firefight, so its closer to the idea of Kill Team (small specialist teams) but still easier to learn and quicker to play.

[@natty4316]

Why don’t you use the stingwings? They’re hard to use and you might put a new player off

[@sarmism]

Lovely review. Nice to hear the global impression talked about rather than some of the other channels’ more nuts and bolts reviews. Confession: I like toeing in… Enjoyed the triple hello anyway, thanks!

[@Spardin]

Seeing it laid out in front of you like that, looks like a good chunk of stuff

[@streetfightinmanrs]

I just got into Killteam last month with the Krieg/Ork starter box.

[@martinhammond5979]

Pre- ordered from wayland games. Now just have to hope it will actually turn up! Thanks for the videos Andy.

[@romeo.3472]

Got my preorder in. £116 for everything on that table is just too good to turn down. Look forward to the rest of the series. ❤

[@mattmfjaynes]

New to kill team, but got a hearthkyn salvagers box a cpl months ago. Started to really look into it as I was blown away with all of the options I got for my models in the box. Saw some vids from your channel and decided to pick up the octarius box set at my lgs. It was the last one. Got hivestorm on pre order, and I’m super excited to get into some games!!

[@Than0s]

Just ordered HiveStorm this morning after watching a bunch of your videos about Kill Team.

[@GrebirfSnej]

Awesome looking minis, but without any type of pinning they become tricky to assemble...especially for new players. Also, there is the problem with the guards. They cannot be assembled as they look on the box, because there is a las-pistol missing

[@danielecroce8841]

I've preordered the box and can't wait to play it! The only thing that I really need now are the free rules for all my teams

[@Peter-rb8ql]

Well, I’m convinced. Pulled the trigger on the preorder. Thanks for the content.

[@Axiom125]

I know u am late to the party but I love your looks into kill team. Keep up the great work!

[@tiberiumnp8030]

Just preorder and planning on selling the teams. New mechanics look pretty solid (although I still don’t understand the smoke’s radius) and I’m looking forward to single player and coop modes the most. EDIT: TIL you have another channel too, subscribed.

[@walkerdarin2003]

Going to use this as introduction for my son. Looking forward to rolling some dice with him!

[@ChaseTheChamp11]

Hey! The Double Hello works again! Thanks for the video Glass.

[@RedStrat86]

Love the paint job on mini's, especially the Vespids, very cool!

[@earnestwanderer2471]

At 5:30am, in the USA, the box was still on hand at the FLGS website. Hmmm. Didn’t order it however. As a current player I’m just not sure I need this.

[@mykeycuento5576]

THE DOUBLE HELLO IS BACK!!! Also was able to lock in my preorder last week. 😁

[@whenry369]

I started collecting Kill Team with the 2018 (?) when it was basically 40k with individual models instead of units. I tried hard to get into Octarius, and I kept buying in but I couldn't get into it, and that made it hard to get my friends to play. I'm hoping that the changes to KT 2024 will make it easier to figure out.

[@RanVor]

Preordered. I've played a ton of KT2018 with my cousin, but failed to get into the 2021 edition due to lack of time to learn a whole new ruleset. With this box, I'm giving Kill Team another chance. I hope it works out this time.

[@ColeHammondThinkFree]

This value box looks excellent. I've pre-ordered my copy and can't wait for release!

[@BloodKraven]

Preordered as I did with octarious but struggled with rules bloat near the end so looking to new streamlined rules

[@JimCrimmins]

Killer work Glass. It's like an epic lyrical ode to KT.

[@chrisbanks1710]

Thanks for this. Some intetesting things to consider.

[@davidwheward8081]

I'm an old salty dog for KT. I bought preordered the Octarius box online because I liked both teams and it was great ( I live in China). This time I don't like the teams and have plenty of terrain. So I've preordered a package of the core rules, hivestorm dossier and tacs ops cards for a good price (¥150 … NZ$35). Which in New Zealand will probably be stupendously expensive... NZ$150 + probably

[@SleepyGhst]

Got my hivestorm box today.... Waiting to see how bad this Hurricane is here in FL, might have a lot of free time if the power goes out.... and i dont die.

[@adamwoodward1495]

Loved the Blackadder reference, and possibly stealing than Vespid colour scheme...

[@christianjohansen1493]

Been thinking… yeah, I know … shouldn’t it be… a triple goodbye … at the end?

[@40k4noobs]

Amazing thumbnail dude lookin like you should a part of the next A-Team

[@MrTumnus1987]

Triple hello! So wholesome!

[@cgordon13]

I joined Kill Team in May 2024 as I was looking for a fun skirmish game. My friend and I had a good time playing at the tail end, but we needed external resources to keep the rules straight. I was very excited for the new rules until GW announced the planned obsolescence of old kill teams. I've been playing wargames for 20 years. I don't mind new models coming out to replace old ones, but I look at purchases as investments. A new sculpt isn't a big deal if I can still use my old one. The time it takes to assemble and paint these minis means that I don't view them as disposable. A three year(?) cycle where models get rotated in and out doesn't work for me. This isn't a CCG where the product comes perfectly usable from the company; it requires investment from me and I don't want to invest on such a limited timeline.

[@jinofthesheep]

For clarity, it’s a six year cycle.

[@cgordon13]

@@jinofthesheep 4 years for competitive if I understand correctly. Meanwhile my 40k Ork army is still going strong after 20 years.

[@jinofthesheep]

@@cgordon13 all teams released will have rules in the game for two full editions. The concept of “classified” and how it’s applied in the broader independent tournament scene is still TBD. Using your terms though and competitive constraints, a team of 10 models being valid in a game for four years feels like a good return on my initial investment (££). I’m not a fast builder or painter, so it takes me approximately 20-30hrs to build and paint a squad of corsairs as an example. I’ve then mained them for a year, playing circa 25 tournament games (50hrs) as well as circa 50 casual games (100hrs). I guess it’s a subjective thing, but 170hrs+ for an initial £35 investment is entirely reasonable to me. If I’d played vet guard and only vet guard since release, that would’ve approx been 400hrs as I was more of an active player in the first two years of the edition, whilst it doesn’t include the value accrued from the terrain’s use throughout the period. Are you saying that’s not enough value? Cause I would advocate that one box of models is a greater return on hobby hours than some AAA video games

[@cgordon13]

@@jinofthesheep No, that's not enough value. Video games are a bad comparison to mini games. Video games will eventually be finished. They don't have artificial cancellation dates from the outset when your game no longer works.

[@johnnnysilverhand9819]

You now need new march, but instead of shapes, it will just be 1, 2, 3, 6

[@vthunder4238]

I did preorder hive storm, fingers crossed it lives up to the hype

[@fullarmourtracksuit4023]

I want it. Loved Octarius. This looks just as good.

[@mandyd9681]

Hivestorm secured, waiting on your videos to teach me how to play :P

[@DotJus]

I’m not into either team but pre-ordered anyways! I’m super keen on that terrain and rule book.

[@funghazi]

Pre-ordered at my FLGS! I only tried the current Kill Team briefly but love the concept of the game. Looking forward to giving the game another chance with the new edition.

[@davidteel7701]

Thanks for this. I will keep in mind the sweatlord stuff when I teach newbies how to play.

[@frankcandeloro44]

Not seeing it available in the US for pre-order yet.

[@RyanPST88]

"...run a narrative train on me..." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jinofthesheep]

Really tight review!

[@jeffhoffman4352]

Really glad to hear your opinion on the rules cleanup. The amount of playtime lost to cover / obscuring arguments and explanations is literally incalculable.

[@IgnacioGlezCllo]

I can’t wrap my head around cover/obscure either; sounds like I’ll need to get hold of the updated rule book.

[@Akilli315]

I bought it because I must have good value plastic. Thank you for making me feel better about that Mr. Glass.

[@alexd7713]

Thank you Andy! Have been following you from KT18 and this is one of your best videos to date! Looking forward to this exciting new chapter. KT21 is dead, long live KT24!

[@tomamies1654]

My man looks like a Night Lord.

[@Riddler_von]

Could you please do a video comparing data cards old and new ?

[@Nemoknowsnothing]

I tried to preorder it with my lgs. I managed to put my order within 30 seconds of the preorder.

[@doctorjohn7156]

Brand new player here very excited to play. Bought My Hivestorm :D

[@mayofrench5170]

I may slog through all of the other videos you've released today while I wait for my copy.

[@dancingbear1881]

A friend is on the fence about the pre-order. We started like 3 weeks ago and still do not have one single model 100% completed. Yet he already spent 100s of euros and want´s to buy this one, too...

[@RAINBOWBEARMAN]

I've got a year left with my geller pox so thankfully I don't need this yet. good review andy.

[@anotherzingbo]

Thank you, this says a lot of things I wanted to see covered in a review. Did you remember to breathe while recording this though? You are talking at quite a pace!

[@christopherrange7171]

Enemy at the Golden Gate? Black Falcon Down? Were you worried about copyright infringement?

[@kerrrobin]

Hydration, it's very important 👍

[@Jackman0205]

Bam! Great video!

[@Riddler_von]

I have all kill team boxes since 2018

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Accurate 2 Hello! I, a salty veteran, have pre-ordered Hivestorm.

[@killteamken5997]

Hype, Hive Storm on pre-order

[@michaelpipe5488]

Good review!

[@GarredHATES]

I waited in queue only to find it’s not ready yet for my country 😭

[@jaytee63236]

I played in an Adepticon tournament against one of these toe-in shenanigans guys. He launched into his prepared speech about the special way he was going to move his models and what that was going to mean for my overwatch shooting and blah blah blah and I just "brother, I don't really need to hear your whole explanation. Just move your dudes where you want them and take your shot." I think his brain short-circuited lol. Ended up tabling him anyway. I do think it's a shame GW continues to promote this kind of gameplay. I'm not sure why "If you can see it you can shoot it" is such hard concept for their rules team to grasp.

[@toooldfortwowheels2048]

Marmite on crumpets, brother you're talking language, oh and a brew you say? Colour me excited.

[@guntermuller5902]

Just order two for my tau and guard army

[@paladinpariah325]

How do I know which models will be in my team? Aren't teams losing all their options? Guess I need to wait for the free rules to drop in two weeks?

[@Granite-ny8up]

Marmite on crumpets?!? You monster!

[@mattvucu6706]

Someone call the firemen

[@chopsunst]

Glass half yes

[@kasperl.4268]

You have ANOTHER channel?

[@GlassHalfDead]

Yes, this channel is low effort content, mainly talking head, saying my thoughts on things. The other chanel is high effort content, me actually playing the game. Is the concept... doesn't always work out that way.

[@cm16533]

As a complete noob to the hobby do i need this set to play kill team? Or can i buy a single team and do mock terrain and get rules for free online? I want to get into the hobby but 230 is seriously steep

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@cm16533 you can just buy one team, yes. Do be aware that you do kind of NEED a good system for engage/conceal tokens. A sheet of tokens comes with the core rulebook. Aside from that, you're good to go.

[@moose56]

Marmite some crumpets. I’ll be back for breakfast.

[@janikd7948]

A fully scripted video? :O A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Thanks for the review

[@BigDaddyDirtHog]

Locked it in for $195 usd, gonna flip both teams and keep the core stuff.

[@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081]

I am a bitter ex Eldar player and Raven Guard assembler having assembled a box of hormaguants and assembling a squad of battle sisters..... having

[@andanotherthing6687]

Pre ordered and getting into the game for the very first time. Epic Box, Epic Content, Looks utterly confusing compared to 40k. Tin Hat is on, eyes wide open

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

Watch Blackadder to get hyped for Kill Team? You don’t have to tell me twice!

[@TCLe]

145 pounds dang that's heavy

[@alexthebird2756]

triple hello for 2025

[@f2padam]

Yay triple hello!!

[@WladcaPodziemia]

I tried some coop games and I wonder if coop here wil lbe any good, since many of those coop games turn out to be quite boring slugs against brain-dead ai without any variant. Although, it might be too much to expect from GW to deliver coop quality of something like Rangers of Shadowdeep

[@wesszmaglik4697]

Eyecandy!

[@andraskovacs5431]

I just checked. Mars 5 3D printer is the exact same price as hive storm. It's not that hard to decide between the two despite how mutch I wanted to actually get into kill team

[@kpops_is_fab]

Holy thumbs batman! Your thumbs are so long 😂

[@IgnacioGlezCllo]

£145 May not be cheap, but bearing in mind how much it includes (and compared to what I spent getting my kill team stuff in bits and bobs here and there), it sounds like a very good deal to me.

[@Riddler_von]

More like necromunda

[@nobodyreally834]

They are making it so you can't use your 40k models, you have to buy the exclusive Kill Team models.

[@leeksveeks4572]

It’s a different game, so yes.

[@MekBoooooi]

No matter how good it is $230 is a no.

[@syd4890]

Nice box... but... just look at the price of other KT going forward plus the planned obsolescence confirmed by GW... nah thanks but no thanks

[@andraskovacs5431]

Especially since the one box I wanted is allready removed. If they still had Nightmare I would consider but not anymore

[@jinofthesheep]

@@andraskovacs5431which box did you want? The only things out of the game currently are compendium…?

[@jinofthesheep]

Worth saying, all of GWs games have planned obsolescence, this is one of the first times they’ve been open about it. But saying that, you can still play all of the teams released to date until the end of this edition (I.e. until 2027) at the earliest.

[@andraskovacs5431]

@@jinofthesheep I couldn't find Nightmare anywhere including GW or any number of local or online retailers. And GW didn't mention anything about bringing those two team boxes back

[@jinofthesheep]

@@andraskovacs5431 wasn’t nightmare nemesis claw and mandrakes, both of which went on individual preorder today?

[@InnuendoOutTheOther]

"the games the same" and that'll do me Andy. See you in a few more years with the hopes we return to the glory of 2019 KT at some point

[@bopaintsminis]

Would you still have such a positive review of such an expensive boxed set if you had to pay for it ypurself? That is to say, would you be willing to shell out that kind of scratch for that box? Great value? Really?

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@bopaintsminis yeah. Dude, I buy GW stuff all the time. I bought Skaventide and didn't even hesitate, and that cost more than this. I bought the two Horus Heresy knights last month and they cost more than this for two models. I bought Star Wars Shatterpoint, Infinity, Deadzone, and lots of Warmachine last year. I don't have a problem spending money on my hobby. So yes, I stand by what I said in this video. Also, I even started this video with a proviso about why I say what I say, so such a weird thing to question tbh

[@Mescaline82]

8:28 ... Please HELP! I don't find the Double Like button !

[@theanimaster]

Yikes. Looks like those sentences are still being written by Yoda.