Glenn Greenwald: Big Tech is censoring Covid debate

Freddie Sayers meets Glenn Greenwald to discuss tech censorship during the pandemic.
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Recently, in the comments underneath our LockdownTV KZbin videos, people have been saying that our videos are being ‘downrated’ on KZbin search. Type in Aella, or Michael Levitt, for example, and videos come above ours in the search results that are much older, viewed much fewer times, and come from channels that have much smaller followings. I hate the idea of being conspiracist, and feel it’s a bit rich to make accusations of censorship against a platform that has brought us millions of views and over 110,000 followers, but could it be that heterodox channels like ours have found their way onto a blacklist of channels that should be ever so gently… suppressed?
This was one of the questions I put to Glenn Greenwald - perhaps one of the most famous free speech and civil liberties advocates in the world. Talking from his home in the mountains outside Rio di Janeiro, his answer was unsettling: “You don’t need to be a conspiracist to believe any of that. They acknowledge that they are doing all the things that you just described.”
The pandemic has brought this issue to the fore even more visibly, with channels and videos regularly being taken down having been judged as dangerous to public health, and the KZbin CEO announcing earlier in the year that anything that fell foul of WHO guidelines would be removed (notwithstanding that organisation's patchy, to say the least, record during this pandemic).
“It’s incredibly dangerous,” says Greenwald. “What competency do tech giants have to arbitrate over science and health policy? … How did they get into a position of some sort of philosopher-king to be able to sit in judgement as overlords of our discourse and decree not only what is permissible but what is true and false when it comes to highly complex questions such as how to manage a pandemic, or whether vaccines are safe and effective, or whether the balances of a lockdown are justified by their cost? These are incredibly complicated decisions that a society ought to be debating.”
It becomes even more sinister when it dovetails with party politics. Greenwald sees the merger of the Democratic Party and the tech platforms as a serious threat to free speech:
“You can look at every metric and it all leads to the same conclusion. There is a union that includes the establishment wing of the Democratic Party, Wall Street and Silicon Valley. One way you can see that is that Silicon Valley overwhelmingly poured its money into the campaign coffers of the Democratic Party… Their employees are overwhelmingly progressive, overwhelmingly liberal, overwhelmingly Democrat and whenever there is agitation within these companies for greater censorship, it is almost always on the grounds that Right-wing or conservative voices ought to be censored.
To me, that censorship episode involving the Hunter Biden reporting in the weeks leading up to an election was one of the most alarming and significant events to take place in politics in years. That one of the primary means that citizens have to communicate with one another was simply manipulated to prevent incriminating reporting about the candidate that the employees and executives and shareholders of those means of communication wanted to win the election. It was pure brute censorship of the most toxic and damaging kind.”
The prognosis, according to Greenwald, is not good. Instead of being magnanimous in victory, the Democrats are likely to use their influence to further shut down discourse they find unacceptable.
“It’s like a tide that keeps coming in. You hope that it doesn’t get to you. As long as it doesn’t you feel free on the beach, but you see the water inching ever closer.”
#Censorship #Pandemic #Democrats

[@jasonhyatt2674]

I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned

[@12235117657598502586]

🤔👍

[@AlexRyan]

That’s awesome!

[@summertime104]

I love that! I'm going to re-use it if I can remember it when I need it.

[@douglascounts4634]

You should have attributed the quote. Quote is by Dr. Richard Feynman.

[@sonquatsch8585]

@@douglascounts4634 great physicist! good to know the quote is from him!

[@gammasmash1924]

Censorship is like mustard gas. It seems like the perfect weapon until the wind shifts.

[@iamrocketray]

Thats a good one too!

[@mechanicjobs]

I gotta remember that one.

[@marilynmantis5409]

Oh yes, the stuff that chemotherapy was made from.

[@susanblood7397]

Love that Gamma!

[@cherias.4069]

Good 1 Gamma!😂✌

[@jacko717]

"if you want to know the truth, find out what you can't say."

[@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904]

Peter Hitchens recently said something like “never believe anything until it’s officially denied”.

[@jacko717]

@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 that's excellent, PH has been good value throughout this.

[@davidrubel6295]

Like screaming "FIRE" in a crowded movie theatre ? Like that, you fucking moron ???

[@carbe006]

@@davidrubel6295 that argument is passe, Almost like discernment. I do like your tutorials

[@TheFreedomBay]

That would be an either or rule. Not the way to go, but yes it can be a telling sign of fishy business

[@vivekra]

The scene from The Matrix where Agent Smith says "Tell me, Mr. Anderson. What good is a phone call, if you’re unable to speak?" suddenly makes sense

[@Denise-ie2mp]

very good

[@rhondalees4]

Very very good!

[@davidlewis2668]

Defund Facebook and Twitter by canceling your account.

[@kkartha]

I am a retired IT engineer . I have managed to live without a Facebook or Twitter account all these years, don't intend to have any in future as well..

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@kkartha I've yet to meet a real engineer that uses either of those. Most of them use flip phones, too.

[@shanekearney8672]

But KZbin is ok ?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@shanekearney8672 As for me, I only joined during the COVID lockdown last year. And I shouldn't post comments, TBH.

[@lesliecunnis24]

And stop using amazon!

[@malcolmtent]

“Allowing the dissemination of certain information may be harmful but limiting the freedom to disseminate information is even more harmful.” (paraphrased)

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

Great quote. This is rather apt these days, from J Krishnamurti: “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

Who is your quote from, i can't find it with a quick search ?

[@greggmaynard5658]

It’s a paraphrase of something Greenwald says in this interview - and I agree it is a very powerful point

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

@@greggmaynard5658 Ah, thank you.

[@SamFisher6791]

The cure for bad speech and bad ideas, is more speech and debate, not censorship! Censorship only causes more people to seek out what's being censored, than what would've come across that information in the first place and also gives that information more validation from the very fact that they're trying to hide it!! Censorship, never has, nor will ever work. It's completely counter productive and has the opposite effect to what it is trying to achieve!!

[@antheablackmore5838]

What I’ve witnessed over the past 11 months regarding censorship, especially of medical proffessionals and scientists has rocked me to my core

[@Denise-ie2mp]

ratatoille ?

[@jeanettedini7259]

Exactly, Anthea!

[@beckysnay1609]

How can we censor them?

[@summertime104]

It does explain a lot, like why so many physicians have basically quit or retired, and why there is a lack of physicians some times.

[@theknowall2232]

This scamdemic has caused me to reseach vaccines, the science and the stats. I am stunned by the truth. View the channel, *'Ｔhe Ｔruｔh 𝐀bou𝐭 Ｖaᴄᴄines'.* They allow viewing of their first episode of a 7 part series.

[@larrydavid530]

I'd rather see the end of social media, even the internet as a whole, than allowing tech companies to determine what we are allowed to see, speak, write, and read. Otherwise, we might as well relinquish everything to them, since it will just be a matter of time anyway.

[@nickbrennan3389]

I agree...it's an addictive drug that's completely out of control. At this stage I think its doing more harm than good

[@jameswhite7997]

The world was better before the internet.

[@SmellingTheGrass]

I agree with you whole heartedly. We as human beings allow ourselves to be setup by Big Tech when we ingratiate ourselves with the latest toys. Anti Social media (as I prefer to call it) is nothing more than the modern day equivalent of cattle herding. We are all guilty of being THAT consumer simply by virtue of our presence here. When the incessant push is for all things electronic including all the variations of essentially the same thing, then an understanding of the science of personal psychology becomes ever more important. The complexity of society as it is, Individualism versus collectivism and our ability to portray that to others via body language should NEVER be replaced by a keyboard and I fear that some day the fiction of a dystopian 1984 world will eventually become FACT..

[@DrEric-kp8tf]

@Arabella Smyth Yes technology enslaves when we become dependent upon it. Social media is designed to create addiction through attention and likes which activate our pleasure/reward system. Power is the ability to get a person or person to do what you want where they otherwise would not. Force is not the only way to enslave someone or get them to do what you want. I have not had cable since 2013 and with the exception of some recent participation I have not been on social media since 2017. One person sadly does not make a revolution. The most jaw dropping and spot on analysis regarding technology is the unabomber manifesto. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

[@redfo3009]

So refreshing of an idea!

[@DDee-oi6kn]

I've seen more censorship this past year than anytime in my long life. It's really frightening. When you watch a video and they tell you what words not to use that could trigger being taken down, it's a real eye opener. It's just the beginning of what we can expect.

[@soulcollector5643]

True, this is very scary and the government goons are trying to force everyone to take the vaccine despite clear health risks. Just this weekend a man died only 25 MINUTES after getting the vaccine! This happened to others also, a CA man died only hours after getting the shot. What about the freedom of choice? Maybe some people want to take vitamins and use nutrition to boost natural immunity and then if exposed the immune system can better fight the virus. Censorship of alternative methods is evil.

[@anna3046]

“The Animal Farm” by George Orwell comes to mind. People are already starting to see them for what they are. They have recently won some battles but the PIGS will loose the war. We have just entered the golden age. This is the beginning of the end.

[@sebp400]

funny that the animation was financed by the c.i.a...

[@keekl6870]

and i see the pandemic as covid1984

[@m0rthaus]

Good news Anna, the attempts by Trump to become a totalitarian autocracy built upon a cult of personality appear to be failing, and he'll be out of the White House soon and back to his favourite past-time: grifting idiots. So you have no need to fear the pigs for now. That is.. unless you have no idea what The Animal Farm was actually about.

[@solidthoughtpoker5207]

The most striking thing about Animal Farm to me in relation to current times was how changes on animal Farm were slight and gradual and the animals didn't notice. Currently, it's illegal to go outside in UK unless to excersise to special circumstances. Nothing to see here folks.

[@soulcollector5643]

@@m0rthaus Claiming people are safe from totalitarian autocracy because Trump is out of office only shows that YOU have no idea what Animal Farm was actually about. Remember the power shifts from one tyrant to the other, that was the theme of the book. Now Biden's neoliberal regime wants closer ties with Communist WHO and CCP, pushing vaccines down everyone's throat despite known health risks. Man just died 25 minutes after getting vaccine, not safe!

[@alisonappleton3304]

Please keep in mind Julian Assange locked up for a decade for releasing information in the public interest.

[@C2yourself]

Criminal

[@Denise-ie2mp]

good reminder

[@Jdjustsaying]

Makes me ashamed to be an Australian 😢

[@BitterClinger1947]

Amazing Assange is still alive considering the info he released on Hillary.

[@AlexRyan]

That’s not why julian was locked up. The story is MUCH bigger than that. You’ll find out on Jan 6. But, if you want a preview ... It was because Seth Rich passed information to Wikileaks which enabled the good guys to stop Hillary from stealing the election from Trump like she did from Bernie. thedonald.win/p/11ROC4wX13/

[@DiamondLil]

Hands down, Freddie Sayers is the best interviewer I have ever read/heard/seen. He asks intelligent questions of intelligent guests and then allows them to speak. He challenges them without silencing them.

[@cumoreview442]

Are you his mum?

[@linjubar]

There are a few others out there like him, but he is good.

[@GladysAlicea]

He's not bad on the eyes either. Fabulous and smart!

[@iolo6933]

He could be much more challenging. He should also play devil's advocate.

[@evaszekely896]

Conspiracy theorists look for connections among variables, connections that are not obvious but are or could be there. What is wrong with that? Isn't that what critical thinkers do?

[@silenciothequiet3471]

Excellent point I live by.

[@Denise-ie2mp]

good arguement

[@isaacmullins9804]

Nicely put 👍🏼

[@nobiedupree5916]

Exactly

[@bengt_axle]

No that’s not what critical thinkers do. Critical thinkers test alternative hypotheses. If you just look for them you have an imagination, but not a sense of critical thinking. Critical thinkers follow the scientific method. Look that up. Scientists and judges are critical thinkers. They can make mistakes but they will be corrected by applying the scientific method - not by spewing out alternative explanations which are have not been tested by a process of falsification. Conspiracy theorists thrive on the idea free speech about alternative explanations and “discourse” arguments which is what this going on here.

[@oldmoviemusic]

This was particularly exceptional. Glenn was in fine form.

[@publichealth1681]

talkradio's youtube channel has just been removed. a week on, this man has been proved right and then some. chilling.

[@lesliecunnis24]

They've gone downhill. Totally different now...I stopped watching

[@virginiadoan116]

Now the Biden administration has removed the leaders at radio free Europe because they were conservatives. They only want radical free speech to reach the countries of the world. Welcome to the new control of people the world over.

[@richardfeuille1212]

I am a very much pro-vaccine pediatrician, but the thought of completely blocking anyone saying anything antivax is horrifying to me. Because, then anyone could be blocked for any non-favored opinion or treatise.

[@fndngnvrlnd]

I feel sorry for your patients!!! You have probably ruined their immunity for life!!!!!!

[@jared_r]

I said the same thing. If anyone has side effects or bad reactions to a brand new and little tested drug, they can’t tweet their experience without being banned. Some doctors are also speaking out about the process: www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/12/an-internal-medicine-doctor-and-his-peers-read-the-pfizer-vaccine-study-and-see-red-flags.html

[@GGTutor1]

Yes, but this is not a vaccine as we used to know it. It is gene therapy. Definitions of herd immunity are being rewritten to erase natural immunity in favour of vaccination. This is not scientific.

[@solarwind907]

@@jared_r It's funny how all the conspiracy theories in this comments section don't seem to be banned.

[@jared_r]

@@solarwind907 I don’t know how they determine their algorithms or what content falls under it. But Twitter, Facebook, and KZbin stated they were banning any “covid misinformation” and “unproven treatments.” Both of those are extremely broad and have no basis coming from a tech company to begin with, but even if you agree that everything they’ve done so far has been good, it still runs the risk of shutting down important information in the future, all because they decided that they have to arbitrate the truth to the dumb public. And people who would fall victim to misinformation, now would just go to a different platform. It doesn’t do any good to arbitrarily decide what can and cannot be said; if anything it drives people away and lets them feel persecuted and rebellious for believing whatever the tech giants say you can’t believe.

[@stevenwelp7165]

As with the 1960's colloquialism "You're Not Paranoid If Someone's Actually Following/Stalking You", so too today as "It's Not A 'Conspiracy Theory' If It's More True Than 'Experts' & The Mainstream Narrative".

[@Rocketscientist66]

Exactly!

[@BuzzinFr0g808]

An important thing is to remember that "conspiracy theory" doesn't necessarily imply an erroneous/fringe belief. It has come to mean that to people who don't consider the words that make up the phrase, but it just means a theory (an overarching explanation of the observed facts) that involves a conspiracy by some entity. Tons of conspiracy theories are actually very probable if not absolutely certain.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Please, everybody, continue to place a higher value on _evidence_ than on any understandable surrender to mental illness. It's your _only_ hope, for it's _their_ weak indulgence of mental illness that makes your avowed opponents your opponents. Remember?

[@sebp400]

we live in the Panopticon, of course it can make people paranoid.

[@koerttijdens1234]

Google started with 'Do no EVIL ' But they changed.

[@DutchessForever]

Yeh, they ARE the evil in the world. actively stifling information. I don't use google anymore to research topics because I get a 'blank' on my research efforts!!!!!!!!!

[@socrattt]

Google took the phrase "don't be evil" out of their manifesto, literally.

[@koerttijdens1234]

@Janet Baker Ha, yes i fell for it, i believed them, guess I'm guilable or what was that word ?

[@bendrixbailey1430]

I think the founders meant it, intended it, but then the money seduced them. As if they were not making enough, but money and power take on a life of their own.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

The founders, most saliently the _highly aware_ Soviet-born co-founder Sergey Brin, took a powder and left things in the hands of corporatist, shareholder-return-driven zombies. Middle-aged and effete from decades of strain, they took their bow, and now a trillion-dollar world-steering entity is in the hands of value-empty globalist West-coast technocratic human shells. It's a _colossal_ pity and a shame and a disaster. Puke-making.

[@monicasmith6385]

We need many more journalists like Glenn Greenwald. That guy has so much courage and confidence to go after the truth. I'm a huge fan.

[@fehlrock]

Thank God for Glenn Greenwald, he is so pure in his analysis. He is more "Liberal" than I am, but his Truthspeak transcends liberal or conservative politics/ideology !

[@fehlrock]

It was so true when he proclaimed Bush (and I think Obama) was wayy worse than president Trump ever could be.

[@lostinsweden5039]

I'm not of the Left, but Glenn Greenwald is a modern hero.

[@GARRY3754]

Left and right ain’t right anymore. Consciousness is more important as lines are infiltrated creating viscous circle. What is good for planet? What is good for farmers not in huge corporations? Etc. etc.

[@tommyanomaly6193]

Left and right are fictional constructs that can be manipulated by people in power.

[@anthonymccarthy4164]

LostinSweden is a modern idiot.

[@rumpelwurzwurst4308]

I'm not American and was surprised how calm, well spoken and rational he is for a political commentator from there. That's the kind of person who should be in power instead of the clowns they elect.

[@gaulishrealist]

Your bar for heroism is set pretty low. We need to stop worshipping leftists who aren't entirely insane. There is no gain for us in it, other than a mild dopamine rush.

[@user-dg7sy8cz3b]

“Follow the money” Wisest words ever spoken.

[@solarwind907]

Oxford - Astra Zeneca is selling it's vaccine at no profit until the pandemic is under control. They will produce up to 3 billion doses in 2021. Save a lot of lives - especially in poor countries. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/boHNZZKXgJKdbqs Money isn't always the reason things get done.

[@L30B055]

@@solarwind907 Selling poison at no profit. Thats great man, what ever gets the job done mannn. Saving lives from a virus with a 99+ percent recovery rate, groovy, seems legit👌

[@joedonzi9552]

VITAMIN D = LESS SICKNESS & BETTER HEALTH - CHEAP & EFFECTIVE VITAMIN D VITAMIN D = LESS SICKNESS & BETTER HEALTH - CHEAP & EFFECTIVE VITAMIN D VITAMIN D = LESS SICKNESS & BETTER HEALTH - CHEAP & EFFECTIVE VITAMIN D VITAMIN D = LESS SICKNESS & BETTER HEALTH - CHEAP & EFFECTIVE VITAMIN D

[@christopheraimes4933]

A quote that Norm Chomsky uses quite often

[@teries2051]

@@joedonzi9552 also zinc & vitamin C. 👍

[@thoughfullylost6241]

Thank you so much for bringing Glenn Greenwald on especially about this topic

[@christophersequeira5844]

Now let's hope he takes the cue to run with it further.

[@BC99]

Who would've thought that getting all our information through high powered corporations might lead to problems?

[@TheBillythepoet]

Its alarming that somewhere at KZbin there must be list of keywords that are flagged... and someone who's job it is to constantly update that list.

[@farleymarly2575]

Just the title made me click like as I've been censored for talking about covid. Not no content creator just a normal dude but man I've heard this so many times for sooooo many people

[@greggmaynard5658]

Debate is not allowed in the bio-medical techno totalitarian State - put on your mask and shut the f*%k up

[@redfive85]

@@greggmaynard5658 🤣🤣😳💀

[@reetpateet8656]

Me too Mohammed, I put a comment up, and not one like? I could see my text but I don’t think anyone else could! It was an educated and literate observation, not disruptive, so yes I agree with you.

[@Gregor_Ekart]

@@reetpateet8656 what if you're just unpopular?

[@universalearthling3227]

@@reetpateet8656 this has happened to me too on multiple occasions

[@DrTomMD]

“Imperceptibly by design”… like slowly bringing a frog to boil

[@solarwind907]

That implies it's a conspiracy. Censoring someone who denies the Sandy Hook Massacre like Alex Jones is censoring the hate speech of a scumbag. Plain and simple. You can call it a nefarious world wide conspiracy plot if you want.

[@charlesandrews2360]

That's a frog being stupid like Republican voters

[@willismcgee7210]

@@solarwind907 ...but then who are you to decide what words are spoken? When and to whom? Why not let people decide for themselves whether Jones's rantings are worth listening to. Suppressing people's overt thoughts and speech, just drives their ideas underground bringing them to Express themselves covertly. I would rather hear people express themselves as bigots, revealing their thoughts and conclusions to me, that I may challenge their assertions and they mine. Than feeling a sense of common agreement amongst those who would lead me off a cliff. You are either for Free Speech, Thought, and Expression, or as you seem against it due to the unpleasantness of what you may hear.

[@penelopeplimsoul3617]

@@solarwind907 It's still free speech being censored, whether you like it or not. I couldn't care less about your feelings about a content creator. The fact you justify censorship is the exact reason we should not censor. But since you brought the subject matter up, there have been a LOT of sketchy things that the American people are keen to question. The fact our questioning for more information of incidents should tell you we're being lied to; and leads me to believe that even our questioning of being censored is being censored. Extremely obscene situation that silences people. Including you, should you say the wrong thing.

[@solarwind907]

@@willismcgee7210 I think it depends on where people draw the line. Societies have values. Some things are not allowed, others are. I'm just telling you I would draw the line differently than you. For instance I was washing my car somewhere and someone else had their music blaring. It was about raping women with broom stick. I didn't think that was cool or fun even if there were not women around. I told him to shut it off and he did. I guess I violated his freedom of expression but I did not think there was any redeeming quality to the message in a public place. As far as I'm concerned people can do whatever they want to each other if it makes them happy but keep it private. Are you going to allow people to tell kids they should commit suicide on facebook? maybe you think that's okay too. I don't. I sure as hell don't think I'm better than you. Actually appreciate you sharing your opinion but I don't think freedom of speech should be limitless.

[@pdales2257]

This is the definition of an authentic journalist 👏, bravo . Great discussion to help us understand the state of our politics.

[@scottyd6320]

Big tech censorship is a very real issue, as is rightly said, once they are aligned to government, they have unlimited power of control over what is seen and heard. Never before since Nazi propaganda has it been done on a scale like is being seen with covid or the US elections. If it is allowed to continue, and judging by big techs inclusion in things like the World Economic Forum it likely will continue, things are going to get rather interesting in the coming years.

[@searose6192]

Censorship in science is a MASSIVE problem.

[@simon-ec5kv]

Gotta say this is fascinating. Interesting how Greenwald has gone from Superstar investigative journalist to somewhat loose canon outsider critic. I say that in the nicest possible way; this is an extremely insightful commentary. I feel he has stayed loyal to his trade while the sands around have shifted. Anyway also shout out to F Sayers and all at Unherd - a constant source of thought and balance throughout this debacle.

[@Chadhogan111]

Only an 'outsider critic' because he's challenging the status quo.

[@billy-joe4398]

It's not Glen that's changed lol

[@anonjan82]

I canceled facebook, twitter and linkedin in the course of 2020. KZbin is the last social media account I have.

[@cpj75010]

There are other platforms competing against KZbin including rokfin, bitchute, library, odysee etc.

[@anonjan82]

@@cpj75010 thanks. I will try. So far youtube seems not so bad as facebook or twitter and there is good content on it, so it would be hard to give it up.

[@BitterClinger1947]

I canceled FB and was never on LinkedIn or that sewer Twitter. I’m beginning to limit KZbin “recommendations” and such. I used to say to the few liberals I know, “If you don’t like the results of the election (2016), you will have to find a way to keep people like me from voting.” Apparently in 2020, they found a way. They cheated.

[@lesliecunnis24]

@@cpj75010 and brandnewtube. But they all get branded right wing scary sites (they're not!)

[@lesliecunnis24]

Also stopped funding amazon this year... Bezos is no good

[@elijahfish]

I'm on the right, but respect leftists like Glenn. I believe establishment career politicians and corporate elites are the main problem. I think populists on both sides can find much common ground, in areas such as opposing new foreign wars, etc. Unfortunately many progressives seem to have bought into the idea that the elites are on their side

[@philiprobertson1102]

They know this isn't true but they think they can use the Democrat elite to gain power. Once they have power they will remove them (like Hitler did in Germany).

[@idbw1274]

You Glenn is not left wing right? Never has been.

[@lesliecunnis24]

I agree with left values... Or I did before all this! Their compassion is their weakness imo. I want left values with the balls of the right

[@lesliecunnis24]

👆 And Jesus christ... Some lefty is prob gonna say that's sexist cause i said we need some balls lol

[@GingerPeacenik]

Progressives know that the Elite re the true enemy, establishment conservative “Democrats” do not, and are the enemies of Progressives.

[@huskypup3489]

Glenn is the king of the hot take. I'm so tired of left wing and right wing wind-up dolls who say exactly what you know they will say before they open their mouthes.

[@kimberleywarren8679]

Laughingly, I had to scroll past the KZbin Covid vaccine information banner to post this comment. Keep speaking up while you can.

[@tersta1]

Censorship? You don't say! I'm seeing a comment count of 0 on this video, while seeing 3 comments with the latest being written 17 minutes ago. Clearly the YT procedures for deleting comments isn't keeping pace with procedures for counting comments. My! My! Could their scheme be any more transparent???

[@tersta1]

55 comments seen now and still the comment count is 0 and they've hidden my other comment, possibly due to a hashed link. Google has a profit motive for censoring COVID content... Developers of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine Tied to UK Eugenics Movement The developers of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine have previously undisclosed ties to the re-named British Eugenics Society as well as other Eugenics-linked institutions like the Wellcome Trust. ". . . private company - Vaccitech - in the Oxford-AstraZeneca partnership, a company whose main investors include former top Deutsche Bank executives, Silicon Valley behemoth Google and the UK government. All of them stand to profit from the vaccine alongside the vaccine’s two developers, Adrian Hill and Sarah Gilbert, who retain an estimated 10% stake in the company." Source: unlimitedhangout . com /2020/12/ investigative-series/ developers-of-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-tied-to-uk-eugenics-movement/ ----------------------------------- Start talking about CONFLICT OF INTEREST among corporations and government officials. They are profiting from COVID. Recall Trump announced a few weeks ago that COVID stock was over 30,000 points. COVID IS THE NEW GOLD for the eugenicists!

[@zvonomirzuboronovic8662]

@@tersta1 I've seen this comment count anomaly many time before, for all kinds of content (including non-political or inoffensive videos) - it's just a lag. The correct data will appear later.

[@JamesCoffey]

@@zvonomirzuboronovic8662 “correct data” that made me laugh

[@tersta1]

@@zvonomirzuboronovic8662 The data should synch on a refresh and would, if the scripts were reading live data (e.i count(comment)). The fact that the comment is reading from a hard data table that is periodically updated, rather than live data is an indicator that they can and, I know for certain, do modify channel data. Aside from being a data app dev for more than a decade with UPS, I have a YT channel and have communicated with YT tech about zero-length video views. Their solution was to DELETE the views. YT modifies user data. Scripts aren't tailored for any particular content-type. They can modify any channel's data. It isn't "just lag". It's data modification. Client-side scripts update with refresh and shouldn't rely on server-side updates.

[@zvonomirzuboronovic8662]

@@tersta1 I know, but that's not the point you made previously.

[@janrobson9247]

I watched this because Glen Greenwald is very, very credible. I was a fan before this.

[@GGTutor1]

Not anymore.

[@Burns12009]

Lol Sam Harris ? Public intellectual????🤣🤣🤣

[@Barney-ii1no]

Jan do some of your own research please

[@wb5036]

@Language I am skeptical of Mr Greenwald. I highly respected his reporting on Edward Snowden. The media have lost significant credibility. Mr Greenwald spoke of AOC in a way that raised my eyebrows. Her “let’s make a list” is not my style of leadership... ever. AOC may have a particular idea that is credible but to praise the individual makes me suspicious. I also noticed the absence of voting irregularities. I would have preferred Mr Greenwald IF he stood his ground, “I won’t comment on voting irregularities as there may be consequences in KZbin” (or similar). There must be transparency... there’s something deeply wrong and it’s not just in our media. Mr Greenwald is waking a minefield and integrity only comes from having an iron cast constitution. His stance on AOC and the November elections has made me wary. The media incinerated their trust me tickets so any past kudos mr greenwald had is gone.

[@Don-md6wn]

@Fritz Feuer Greenwald and Sam Harris are both right wing grifters.

[@purplechum9]

Censorship is an aphrodisiac for the power hungry.

[@universalsoldier2293]

And the politically insecure.

[@musicloverkathy]

Can I quote you? I'll credit your authorship.

[@musicloverkathy]

That was for tod jones btw.

[@purplechum9]

@@musicloverkathy Sure but it's not that profound

[@musicloverkathy]

Perhaps not, but I try to be respectful of the words of others. I do think it's a very good aphorism, nonetheless.

[@Knightmessenger]

Glenn Greenwald is one of the only true journalists out there.

[@swites]

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

[@silentwatch7643]

Well who made social media the arbitrator?

[@afifahhamilton8843]

Great interview, and THANK YOU for bringing Glen Greenwald to a UK audience. He's done superb work, with very little evidence of bias (though of course we all have our biases, so I'm not being naive there), but he's a genuine guy, and it's good to see him interviewed. Maybe you could get some former MSM journalists on, and ask them some pointed questions.

[@sunshinestar2244]

Well they would do.Shows they OBVIOUSLY have something to hide.

[@henryschwaiger6568]

George Orwell called it.

[@tripzville7569]

He most certainly did. The materialistically infected systems have taken humanity to the very edge of the cliff. The only way back is A COMPLETE REVERSAL and this will only happen when the current systems completely collapse. And this is not going to look pretty. People need to get out of the cities and build new self sufficient communities. Pooling resources with like minded individuals IS A VERY VERY GOOD IDEA. Join us as we do our little bit using our music and messages to shine some light in these challenging times.

[@johnssiroid4439]

I remember in the 80's left leaning kids wearing badges that said "question authority". What happened?

[@Nowhereoh]

@Johns Siroid Here's some old real news: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqimYaN-fq6Ag6s Also watch 911 predicted 6 months before it happened on The Lone Gunmen tv show. I watched it when it aired.

[@jbkweddingfilms8904]

KZbin just remove Rudy Giuliani’s latest video about the recount. Sounds like censorship to me.

[@davidrubel6295]

It’s more like removing a lunatic and his insane ranting s

[@urasoul]

nothing so dangerous as denial and naivety. discounting critical thinkers as 'conspiracy theorists' is like shooting yourself in the foot. a lot of people owe a lot of researchers apologies.

[@AndrewKNI]

There should be no censorship by big tech. Who do they think they are deciding what i might want to know or believe in!

[@lardosian]

Yes if I want to believe in leprechauns then what's the problem.

[@kerryhorn1825]

Check out the communication subcommittee, this is what they were discussing.

[@MyPicturesRestoredBedford]

@@kerryhorn1825 the "communication subcommittee" - that is SO Orwellian 1984 / Harry Potter "Ministry of Magic" / "S.A.G.E." UK, don't you think? As you say, other people deciding what we are allowed to believe (think, say or do...) Not good.

[@zvonomirzuboronovic8662]

@@lardosian They don't normally censor content that they don't deem to be harmful (like belief in leprechauns), which is why you can find many high-view count conspiracy theory videos that have been up for years.

[@kerryhorn1825]

@@MyPicturesRestoredBedford yes 8 sub committees at ministry of magic advising their overlords of evil.

[@miraforeman7567]

We need more of Julian Assange and weakyleaks to find out the truth.

[@AlexHillsCandles4Assange]

Candles4assange are listing global actions for Julian

[@jayzee6617]

..or perhaps Assange got played by the Russians..?..Useful idiot ?

[@caroldiehl8453]

Why isn't the MSM discussing treatments? Why only vaccines? There ARE no recommended treatments, but they won't let doctors talk about the efficacy of common generic drugs against Covid.

[@janetnoot1028]

Ivermectine

[@acadieqc2550]

Yes, ivermectine, definitely! 40-yr old antiparasitic drug showing a high degree of effectiveness in numerous studies (about 20 out of 40 which are RTCs (random-controlled trials). Check these sites for the story: FLCCC, Covexit, TrialSite News

[@anne-marietwomeyrussell3872]

The efficacy of ivermectin is being suppressed. It is unimaginably criminal. I hope the dam bursts soon, and that those responsible are held accountable.

[@janalmond4003]

Has technology caused suppression and silencing of freedom of speech? If so how can individuals express their opinion without being censored?

[@UrbanomicInteriors]

Absolutely it has. People who disagree are banned from social media regularly. Look at Posie Parker.

[@taniaarthur]

Tried to leave FB, it's impossible now, so many apps tied to it and now even the kid's school way to communicate , we are basically trapped in FB with all their 👀👀

[@geevesnc3008]

Lots of people are using 2 cellphones now. One strictly for social media, ie FB & IG; the other for personal use. 😊

[@angelalovarco2680]

I removed Facebook back in April - and haven't missed it one bit!

[@omg_wtf]

No you're not trapped. Delete all your accounts like I did. Then create a dummy account to use for things like school comms. Don't even use your name and don't add friends etc...

[@tulipsontheorgan]

Wrong!

[@gumbypokey]

Yep...have never had FB, Twitter, Instagram...pretty isolating from the mainstream...lonely, but weirdly satisfying...really shows you how many people actually don't want human connection...just read my post or text, don't actually try and talk with me...

[@egyptian420]

Omg finally a real journalist talks about this!

[@socrattt]

Real journalists have been talking about this for a while.

[@egyptian420]

@@socrattt Who? Everyone who isn't a "tin foil alt right conspiracy theorist" has been deliberately walking on egg shells in regard to the consequences of lockdowns, "vaccination passports", any concern at all about mandating vaccines that were rushed and created in record timing with huge financial incentives, the complete internet censorship and shaming culture of anyone who has an opinion that differs from the WHO....etc Name me one prominent journalist who's expressed legitimate concerns about any of this stuff.

[@halasimov1362]

We Are Change China Uncensored James Corbett Jimmy Doore Independent Media is just suppressed you may have to make an effort to seek it. It is huge.

[@egyptian420]

@@halasimov1362 I listen to all of those and they are definitely not mainstream. Furthermore, Jimmy Dore also has been dodging this issue. He's alluded to how the lockdowns have benefitted the oligarchs and billionaires but he hasn't talked about the government usurpation of power, the censorship, the vaccine.... etc. None of the truly "unmentionable" stuff, Corbett on the other hand has.

[@universalearthling3227]

@16:00 this could explain why all criticism of lockdowns, masks, vaccines, etc are labeled as “conservative”, “right wing”, Trumpist, etc. in the media, including social media, rather than just having each claim evaluated on its own merit.

[@nickbrennan3389]

That's exactly how it is in Ireland...anyone who asks questions about anything is called a trump supporter. Its so crazy !

[@dennisbauer3315]

Censorship is totally dangerous. For all. You may as well sew peoples lips closed.

[@cheryljordan4263]

Cancel your account like I did after being banned 3times in 1 month

[@marykochan8962]

Most things happen slowly before they happen quickly.

[@jinnymudlark1815]

... been said by world order enthusiasts - especially re one Europe - decades ago.

[@ChickenLittleWW3-Collapse]

I am commenting under the COVID-1984 warning label on KZbin.

[@OMGAnotherday]

Be careful, you might be arrested for wrong think! 😩

[@Peter123369]

No. You will be arrested for thinking other than 'gov think'

[@steve_beatty]

so...I suppose my comment above will be censored so..taking my own advice here...lol... I've found that my comments sometimes are surrounded with likes and dislikes and figure it's hidden..So I repost it in a message that has replies and it gets recognized....censorship is alive and well in the intraweb....btw. ...vimeo.com/487352310 before it gets taken down

[@OMGAnotherday]

@@steve_beatty - Yes Exactly, I have read and listened to many such qualified people, and of course done my own research, there is definitely an agenda going on right here right now!

[@faza553]

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me. - Martin Niemöller

[@unreasonable3589]

Freddie has taken the red pill. Welcome to reality.

[@bicyclist2]

Glen Greenwald yes. Interviewer? Doubtful. Because he doesn't have experience.

[@user-pr5tx9ep4m]

Kind of.

[@fndngnvrlnd]

Not really. He still believes in the Scamdemic!!!

[@just_another32]

you're being unreasonable

[@Nphen]

@BS Allergy Let folks who want the vaccine get it. Then they won't have to worry about themselves anymore. We can all watch for side effects in vaccinated populations over the next 6 months and decide for ourselves.

[@drkarenswrld]

I normally get UnHerd videos asap, but I just now saw this one, 4 months later.

[@mayc8674]

Reminds me of Biden's comment to a journalist during a briefing who asked him a question, "you are a one horse carriage", he repeated it to him over and over. He didn't like being asked real questions that needed real answers. All the others cover up for the Democrats and their shenanigans.

[@johnneville403]

If a half decent journalist keeps asking the same question over again in an interview, it's because the interviewee has evaded answering it - usually with meaningless platitudes.

[@watershedbarbie9685]

"I felt kind of creepy about that." Absolute proof this guy is not attracted to power.

[@watershedbarbie9685]

@Mike In South Philly Well, I just found it a very revealing statement.

[@PeaceIsBetter]

This guy is a Pulitzer Prize winner.

[@watershedbarbie9685]

@@PeaceIsBetter He's awesome. He's my go-to, on everything.

[@watershedbarbie9685]

@Mike In South Philly Ha ha ha.

[@AlexRyan]

He is clearly a good man, but absolute is a strong word.

[@galaxytrio]

Great interview. I grow more impressed with this channel.

[@boblake2340]

This host is a couple of years behind in his awakening.

[@lesliecunnis24]

🤣🤣 He'll have his dark night of the soul soon enough x

[@RDBb-jn3rm]

In the uk we have lot's of rather nice middle class journo's like this one that can't imagine that the left are as twisted and authoritarian as a lot of us know.

[@marynadononeill]

@@RDBb-jn3rm just look at the evil dems in America now and the destruction of the president!

[@vinnym5607]

Awakening = right wing moron?

[@michaelregan2419]

Barely won? Yeah, he barely had enough ink.

[@sylviewalker7560]

I 'refuse' to trust my mental and physical health to Tech Companies and AI.

[@medhue]

Glen is a lefty I can actually respect.

[@fndngnvrlnd]

One of the few left

[@drmarkberber]

Worrisome interview. The comment “ you tend to get fruity characters propelled by odd-ball energy” coming out and turning off normal folk was HILARIOUS! Greenwald calling these fruity characters “dissidents from conventional piety” was equally brilliant. Thanks for another excellent conversation.

[@John-iw1nn]

Great interview Freddie. Please have Carl Heneghan on again to talk about recent coronavirus happenings!

[@miguelsemidei7619]

This is all very arbitrary. But there are somethings regular people just can’t debate , it’s a normal Jane/Joe giving there opinion on which rocket fuel works best . And health is a bit more complicated that fuel .

[@BlueSky-qs3wp]

Those who know me know I am against conspiracy theories but since what happened to Assange and the obvious lack of transparency in covid 19 debate I doubt everything governments and media say

[@mgb5170]

Excellent interview. Thank you.

[@MarkKap]

may reason and common sense prevail in the war against the virus of pretense and humorelss hubris

[@thisisallthereis]

I loved this guy on the Jimmy Dore show. He's great!

[@werty96659]

They also censored Dr Pierre Korey’s video in a senate hearing regarding how effective Ivermectin was in treating and preventing Covid!

[@AnnaMishel]

there is no such thing as conspiracy. If you go against the agreed upon narrotive, you’re considered a conspiracy theorist. If you’re later proven right, you were not a conspiracy theorist. So there is only right and wrong. PERIOD!

[@sle434]

Unherd is great and Freddie does an excellent job each time out. I am constantly checking for the latest episode. Well done indeed!

[@Derrar7164]

Analogy . Imagine you walk to coffee shop and you start talking about things true or false , is the coffee shop owner is allowed to shut you and ban you from his coffee shop ? Then again when all coffee shops is owned by the same owners ...what to do ? Or teashops :-)

[@omg_wtf]

I prefer tea

[@Derrar7164]

@@omg_wtf 🤣

[@richardharvey1732]

Hi Derrar Hassane, interesting that you should choose coffee shops as your forum!, as it happens during the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries in England, particularly in London coffee shops became the number one venue for a huge surge in public debate!, this has been reported by contemporary and later historians as being the source of a great deal of libertarian change!. There is of course the very significant element in this which is that there is no clear sign of any structural changes in western political administration, there have been short periods of apparent change, as during the nineteen sixties but it all soon fell away with the massive increases in global trading and social degeneration. There is no clear evidence that the good will of the people has ever done any real good so it doesn't matter if we find public speaking is restricted, we can still say whatever we like to those around us that we trust, and it is them and only them that we should be concerned with!, the life and choices of all more distant people is none of our business!. Cheers, Richard.

[@Derrar7164]

@@richardharvey1732 I like to think that social (media ) is more like a coffee shops , teashops or even a park ( speakers corner ) where everyone can speak their minds and of course without prejudices and with respects , with people we trust and with those who would like to establish a trust ...I was just watching Elon musk interview early and he said " the greatest invention humankind had is , language " , I tend to agree with him , ..so let's preserve that right for everyone to speak and/or write , whatever ..

[@JamesJessenfedden]

Not a good analogy. They are offering a different product.

[@Ensignpeak]

Another excellent interview and topic from Freddie Sayers.

[@AmazingPhilippines1]

Thanks for this important discussion and having Glenn Greenwald on was a great choice.

[@pavlovsworld9122]

"You're either for free speech or you're against it." Chomsky If you're for free speech you are for it precisely for views that you detest.

[@markhutton6055]

Chomsky? The guy who wants the unvaccinated in concentration camps?

[@adart2496]

Glenn’s eyes. Like he’s willing to go through anything for the truth.

[@fndngnvrlnd]

Agree. A very rare human being

[@GH3K3]

Ha, what a laugh. Pretentious, snooty Glenn Greenwald (who believes the 9/11 Commission Report) actually thinks Biden won; has he even glanced at the massive amount of evidence of election fraud? Here, do yourself a favor, Glenn and check this out. It's only 36 pages with over 140 citations by Ph.D Peter Navarro: tinyurl.com/y9y4gu3p

[@david-joeklotz9558]

Freddy "auld sunne". You hit a home run! Excellent interview, the most pertinent of subjects and with [as usual] an A team member on the subject. Shared to Facebook

[@paulorooij1935]

Good interview re: censorship. However it would be nice to hear from those who have been at the receiving end of censorship + loss of income + job insecurity ... to see that it is a more far ranging issue. It is not only big tech, but also academia, newspapers, etc. who engage in a multifaceted throttling of the coverage of various issues. Prof. Mark Crispin Miller comes to mind...

[@majermike]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -attributed to Voltaire "I disapprove of what you say, and I will use whatever antidemocratic means necessary to squelch it" -modern democrats

[@alangaillard2988]

Freedom of Speech is ALL speech, no matter how despicable, no matter how evil; otherwise it's not a right, it's an indulgence. Who needs to fight for the right to say nice things?

[@universalsoldier2293]

The goal should always be to be truthful. However, being able to say objectionable things is only beneficial as it should lead to debate and a deeper dive of the facts. If the statement is worth defending, the facts will back it up.

[@andy7754]

35:29: we always support you Freddie. Make journalism great again!

[@JamesCoffey]

if most people think something isn’t true, then what’s the harm in allowing it?

[@jKLa]

-because it may threaten the power, money, or status of those with the most power! Problem with people like AOC is that they are now too much controlled opposition and simply not independent enough from the Dem party establishment that they may appear but are ultimately still substantially beholden to...

[@hayleylongster4698]

Exactly.

[@hayleylongster4698]

Conspiracy theories get purchase BECAUSE they get censored

[@just_another32]

cos there are elements of truth and reasonable arguments that get thrown in the same category as the more absurd claims... it is a way to censor those things that go against the narrative but actually may be true or worthwhile.

[@Anastasia91000]

Thank you for having him on.

[@christinehede7578]

Off course they are as they all have financial interests in pharmaceuticals

[@virginiagillispie7177]

Many people who are largely homebound (which is basically the majority now:) stay connected via the internet-- that story of his friend is spooky.

[@Margus81]

Dear UnHerd, I would encourage you the reconsider when to use the word conspiracy theory and when not. I personally feel like it is used too lightly and often in wrong context. I think we are in danger of making the same mistake that people made centuries ago calling Galileos work to study astrology being anti-christian. Today if you study immunology, or pandemic...you get lightly called conspiracist.... I think it is a huge mistake, because it labels the activity completely wrong and discredits it.

[@fndngnvrlnd]

Brilliant argument. Agree.

[@katymeigs5290]

I am a conspiracy analyst (credit to Gore Vidal) and any journalist of merit should be as well.

[@emomshart]

Dont forget big media cooperation with CCP social credit systems leading them to apply CCP criteria to big tech playforms worldwide.

[@michaelbyron1166]

They cannot do any of this without all of "we" the sheeple participating willingly ... all of these (un-necessary) things that we just can't live without (facebook, twitter, amazon, etc.)will be our own downfall.

[@johnbouttell5827]

Dear Freddie, this was an enlightening interview. Please do more on this issue. Many thanks, John in The Old Country.

[@mickc4236]

Censorship is the greatest form of publicity.

[@bmos02]

The irony when the algorithm is suggesting me videos about big tech censoring a topic!

[@wescolumbus621]

Wow, great, particularly un-herd, much-needed interview! "Whom do we address (about grievances), Freddie?" Why, Kafka and Orwell, wake them up and tell them, they'll completely understand. And the song "Clicking Blues" also understands the real prospect that: "... No one remembers privacy, Nobody knows what freedom is, Away they went, clicking down the drain..." Indeed, "Power is sooo exhilarating and addictive," Glenn. How refreshing to see you stick to a level-headed liberal principle of free speech from what, otherwise, looks like a bit of a salon/luxury Communist Brazie stronghold. How refreshing to hear you acknowledge that not everything bad is because of Trump and that Trump has been a media bonanza (including for you). What's also remarkable, however (from a quick remark you make), is that you seem unaware (what Trump surely knows from Publicity 101) that the media have always been a publicity outlet, mainly, for various levels of Gov. In totalitarian theocracies, communist and military dictatorships the media are 100% publicity, in democracies, they are 85% - 95% publicity. Alas, since 2016, we could see and hear how even public TV and public radio have become 98% publicity (against Trump).

[@daveyeddie8176]

We had a pandemic in 2009, swine flu, no fuss at all, we all lived through it, as we have always done with infectious diseases, adding, the 2008 financial crash may have had something to do with the no fuss, couldn't afford it eh!?!?

[@bicyclist2]

Same with Aids, H1N1, Sars and Swine flu. Thanks.

[@รารา-ฝ5ต]

Swine flu had such low transmission rate relative to covid 19. Your wife living in the same house as you would have a 10-20% chance of getting it. With covid 19 its significantly higher. I also think we have made many mistakes with regards to covid 19 but its a different beast to swine flu.

[@daveyeddie8176]

@@รารา-ฝ5ต I get what you are saying but that is in heingsight, they did not know about transmission rates at the start of the pandemic, its thought half a billion folk worldwide contracted swine flu, some gamble, no masks no sanatised no lockdowns, we got on with our lives, and i guarantee you of we had just got on with our lives with covid, by now the immunity would have been built up against it.

[@davrothelegend]

Please take the time to understand how ridiculous your statements are.

[@รารา-ฝ5ต]

@@daveyeddie8176 the countries with the least economic damage are the countries which took it seriously. Not sure letting the virus spread in USA has been massively successful.

[@jKLa]

Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos are still on the Internet! They have websites! You don't have to use an app.

[@nickprohoroff3720]

2021. The year begin to unheard ourselves from Facebook, Google, Twitter, et al. Come on people, the Revolution starts with us.

[@melhalleron2516]

My entire family call me a conspiracy theorist but I just give the facts which are censored by the big tech and media platforms

[@Kornhulio18]

I feel you