Glider Launch "Rope Break"

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Ray Dunzl

Ray Dunzl

Күн бұрын

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@EnzymeDestroyer25
@EnzymeDestroyer25 6 күн бұрын
W pilot for playing the flute and controlling a whole aircraft at a time!! 🤯🤯🤯
@fastmclaren71
@fastmclaren71 2 күн бұрын
Slide whistle I think.
@elmoreglidingclub3030
@elmoreglidingclub3030 11 күн бұрын
Watching that yaw string made me pucker on my couch!! Speed saved. Glad it worked out. Less rudder, more bank!!!
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
The camera angle accentuates the appearance of skid. I've added a "dot" at the center of the end of the yawstring for future reference.
@elmoreglidingclub3030
@elmoreglidingclub3030 10 күн бұрын
@ I put a dot on mine as well. Easy reference. And yes, when I video from the side of the cockpit it does skew the angle. I always enjoyed teaching rope breaks, as well as safe turns back to the runway after overshooting while on base. Steep turns are the answer. We’d really crank it over to reduce the turning radius so it’d shorten the distance covered over the ground and get us back into a good position quickly with the string centered. I learned to trust steep turns from Derek Piggot (his book is amazing). I’ve a bunch of hours in the 1-34 and loved every minute of it. Always wanted to fly a 1-35 but never had the chance. Very handsome glider! Enjoy!
@KuostA
@KuostA 3 күн бұрын
@@elmoreglidingclub3030 aren't steep turns dangerous when having no power doing a 180 turn back to the runway, ie the dreaded suicide turn? doesnt steep turns drastically increase the wing loading and aoa as u try to maintain altitude during the turn, increasing the stall speed and risk? or are things totally diff in gliders from powered a/c when u have those wings with insane lift capabilities? never heard anyone advocate for more steep bank in a power out 180.
@elmoreglidingclub3030
@elmoreglidingclub3030 3 күн бұрын
@ Steep turns are not dangerous. Stalling near the ground is very dangerous. The wing is what turns the airplane, not the rudder. Using the rudder to turn-and maintaining a “safe” (which is an illusion) shallow bank is exactly what leads to a stall and spin. When returning to the runway we want to reduce the distance covered over the ground. The safest and most efficient way to do that is to back steeply-while keeping the yaw string (or ball) centered. That way, we cannot skid and cannot stall. (Unless we have power on and yank the nose up). Also, we are not concerned with maintaining altitude. If we are so low that we cannot turn back, then land ahead or to one side. To minimize the ground track, and to maximize safety, immediately drop the nose to slightly below the horizon, roll into a steeply banked and coordinated turn, trim for best glide, and fly the aircraft (powered or glider) back to a landing on or beside the runway. In a glider, this can be easily accomplished from 200’ AGL. In fact, I have never done it without having to open the spoilers to get down. The two key aerodynamic facts to remember are (1) the wing turns the airplane so use it for maximum effect, and (2) the rudder is to keep the turn coordinated, which is crucial. A 3rd one is speed: never pull the nose up to “avoid the ground” or to extend the glide. That will only increase the risk of stalling. Keep the nose below the horizon and all will be well and you’ll have plenty of speed. Great questions!
@fighterbomberMiG27
@fighterbomberMiG27 9 күн бұрын
At the flight academy, we had a cadet who had flown gliders before enrolling. He had a very clean flying technique and when we started flying jets he was the best cadet in our class. Thank you for incredible video with outstanding panoramic view. My full respect and sub
@AlexBesogonov
@AlexBesogonov 3 күн бұрын
Airplane pilots: "that's an impossible turn!". Glider pilots: ....
@photon9682
@photon9682 2 күн бұрын
Holy moly, nice save, and never thought I'd see a video from the airport I'm training for my PPL out of!
@lessainsbury8508
@lessainsbury8508 6 күн бұрын
At our club ( The Alberni Valley Soaring Association ) we initiate a 30 degree turn to the right of the runway on the climbout. This way if you have a towrope failure ,it is a 210 degree turn back to the runway. This puts you back on the centerline of the runways without any additional turns if performed at 150' agl. Any lower than 150' agl ,we would aim back towards the runway then land straight ahead once aligned with the runway.
@DarrenMansell
@DarrenMansell 4 күн бұрын
Not a glider pilot but I've done a couple of pleasure flights. Looks like you made the right decisions at all points. Lots of trees on the right so turn to the left. Plenty of grass that way. Better to turn back to known open space than ditch in front. The turns looked well balanced and when touching down it wasn't skidding.
@TheProPilot
@TheProPilot 2 ай бұрын
Always hit the release! There could be busted rope dangling in the air. The low turn to align for the runway was... Interesting. I'm glad it worked out. Looks like you kept the speed up, the nose low, and all was well. Extremely calm rope break. I haven't had a real one yet. But I would want to practice releasing the busted rope AND no low turns below 100' your height judgement gets fuzzy as you try to stretch it out. Also you got a tad heavy on the inside rudder. You had plenty low AOA so it's not as dangerous as when you're slow and a higher AOA. A turn to the other runway would've been fantastic with plenty of room to L flap it and come on down and land. I say all that to say this: great job. I'm glad it worked out.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
A turn to the other runway "could" have put me head-on with someone landing ro taking off, so there was that thought. I had, once before, chosen to release at about the same point due to (somehow) becoming very low and slow behind (under) the towplane, making the same return..
@Keepthedamnwingslevel
@Keepthedamnwingslevel 25 күн бұрын
I like to see glider pilots do their utmost to stay alive. It seemed there was plenty of room to land ahead with full airbrake and landing ahead is always the safest option and even if it results in a groundloop and broken glider. Turning back after a low aerotow failure accounts for probably around 25% of fatalities in gliding. I'm sure you're a very skilled pilot but unfortunately none of us are fully aware of the risks. Thanks for posting the vid.
@petercmorris
@petercmorris 19 күн бұрын
As a glider pilot we practice 200 ft rope breaks until we are comfortable. Understand this is not possible in power planes but is easily achieved in gliders with quick decision making and precise airmanship.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
Flight Path: tinyurl.com/vf2cv3y5 Landing ahead - lights at the end of the runway, possible bounce across the other runway, rough area beyond the runway, finally fence, road, and powerlines. This glider has flaps only, no spoilers/brakes, will practice a landing with full flaps from 75mph at 200 feet and see how far it floats.
@gonegliding2966
@gonegliding2966 14 күн бұрын
Nicely done!
@wernerschulte6245
@wernerschulte6245 17 күн бұрын
Making decisions confidently - that is an experienced glider pilot ! I ´d love to fly gliders in countries with so much space on airfields. You could have landed everywhere.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
Flight Path: tinyurl.com/vf2cv3y5 We do have a lot of room at Zephyrhills. Less on takeoff to the south.
@funkyschnitzel
@funkyschnitzel 5 күн бұрын
Jesus, dude pulls the impossible turn like it's nothing. Gliders are something else. I would never attempt that move in an engine out situation flying a single engine prop.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 4 күн бұрын
200 feet AGL with no obstacles in the path could easily give me a mile in the air before touchdown. Here, using google Maps, and the logged flight path, it looks like about 4200 feet traveled to touchdown. 55 seconds in the air after losing the tow.
@777Chip
@777Chip 26 күн бұрын
Nice job Ray. Thank you for posting. I found your 1-35 videos most helpful when I made my first landings in #77.
@SeanFranke
@SeanFranke 14 күн бұрын
I'm glad it worked out. That skidding turn was scary to me. The airspeed pulled it through, whereas a slower airspeed would have resulted in a spin.
@static_actual
@static_actual 6 күн бұрын
The not exceeding the critical angle of attack is what did that, actually.
@くまさんちゃんねる-q6n
@くまさんちゃんねる-q6n 7 күн бұрын
アメリカのBusyなTraffic状況下でグライダーを飛ばすことは想像もできません! 日本からGreat Job!!
@GRRR1148
@GRRR1148 7 күн бұрын
That was only about 170’ agl and 70 knots. Should have pulled the release, full airbrake and in straight ahead.
@codingvio7383
@codingvio7383 7 күн бұрын
(In my opinion) I would have decided to land straight ahead and perform a forward slip. Judging the height the rope broke (roughly 100 feet AGL), I would not have attempted to turn back around.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 4 күн бұрын
I calculate the altitude from the flight log as right at 200 feet AGL. The altimeter lags, the barometric sensor in the Oudie is very sensitive.
@berndkorthaus5082
@berndkorthaus5082 8 күн бұрын
It's good not to land on the first runway that was in sight just after the break. Who knows who is currently starting there. But the flat gras area left of that runway seemed perfect for a save landing. And I assume you did put the flaps into landing position after 0:55, while still having to turn to the runway, which is too early for my taste. Thanks for sharing!
@brunotagliapietra6397
@brunotagliapietra6397 14 күн бұрын
Why not landing on the taxiway on the left? Only a 90 degrees turn
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
Flight Path: tinyurl.com/vf2cv3y5 I don't see a taxiway on the left. Another runway, which may or may not have had someone landing or taking off putting us head to head.
@EVE101Patt
@EVE101Patt 6 күн бұрын
thought the same tbh
@mjproebstle
@mjproebstle 15 күн бұрын
Not an impossible turn for a glider 😉
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
I had to do it once before - somehow got very low and slow "under" the towplane. Looked outside, decided I was high enough, and made the same turn back.
@colinpovey7923
@colinpovey7923 9 күн бұрын
Perfect.
@AndrzejPodgórski-d7m
@AndrzejPodgórski-d7m 18 күн бұрын
Sorry to write this especially since I am still in training and not yet a licensed glider pilot, but it seems like you decided to make a risky low altitude 180 turn still having enough area to land ahead. You then made a skidding turn and then you were short of hitting the runway with your right wing when you made your final adjustments just over the ground. You had probably practised quite a few simulated rope breaks beforehand. For me this video illustrates how important the training is and that proper reacting in a real emergency is probably more difficult than most of us would like to think. Thank you for sharing.
@katierobinson5464
@katierobinson5464 2 күн бұрын
Looked like an absolutely beautiful job to me. At that altitude it's not an impossible turn for a glider, depending on conditions.
@KandiKlover
@KandiKlover Күн бұрын
Yeah sailplane people always love doing this low baseleg nonsense. It’s a key trademark of their hobby so if you didn’t know that you must not be in any training at all.
@MattCantSpeakIt
@MattCantSpeakIt Күн бұрын
​@@KandiKlovernonesense. First, thats not even a base leg... Second, I'm also a glider pilot, and I can tell you I'd never get in a plane with this guy. His flying made me very nervous, and he made weird and dangerous decisions. His landing was beautiful... But I don't like the decisions he took...
@AndrzejPodgórski-d7m
@AndrzejPodgórski-d7m Күн бұрын
@@katierobinson5464 Maybe this was your impression. This was a typical graveyard turn. The pitch and airspeed saved him. I wish myself the same amount of luck.
@NOOne-li1pj
@NOOne-li1pj 17 сағат бұрын
@@MattCantSpeakItoh, you’re one of those people. Those who say captain Sully made the wrong decision and will never fly with him even though he perfectly made the right decisions and ditching it on the water.
@mattmckrell5544
@mattmckrell5544 14 күн бұрын
I'll point out the wind seemed to be coming from the right, but you turned left. That's what led to that very low turn to align back. If you'd turned into the wind it would have made for less than 180 degrees of turning rather than more.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
Turn to the right would put me over obstacles more obstacles. Left gives another runway, rass be side it, grass beside the takeoff runway, and 4000 feet of runway.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
Flight Path: tinyurl.com/vf2cv3y5 Turn to the right? Many obstacles - drainage ponds, trucking company, treelines. Turn to the left? Many options depending on distance traveled. The low turn to align with the runway was at about 30 feet AGL. The wing dip calculated to be 6 to 10 feet.
@AviationUnscriptedUK
@AviationUnscriptedUK 5 күн бұрын
Fantastic footage! Would you be open to allowing me to feature this clip in my next episode? I'll make sure to credit you fully in both the video and description. Thank you.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 4 күн бұрын
Yes.
@AviationUnscriptedUK
@AviationUnscriptedUK 4 күн бұрын
@raydunzl2025 Thank you very much.
@777Chip
@777Chip 26 күн бұрын
Also … I wish you would post the other 1-35 videos here.
@Banditt42
@Banditt42 2 күн бұрын
Shouldn't you pull the release to release the end of the rope still attached to the glider?
@PotBanginEejit
@PotBanginEejit 5 күн бұрын
Wait, they managed to fit a theremin in a glider?
@WAVEGURU
@WAVEGURU 14 күн бұрын
Good job getting back safely. Can you tell us why the rope broke? Where did the rope break? It is required that the glider pilot inspect the tow rope before being towed. Tow ropes are cheap. There is no reason to use a worn rope.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 10 күн бұрын
The rope detached from the Schweizer Release on the towplane. The rope did not break,, and my end did not fail.
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 17 сағат бұрын
The club now plans to replace the Schweizer Release with a Tost Release, which should be more secure against "uncommanded release" at the tow plane.
@TamasLaszlo-83
@TamasLaszlo-83 24 күн бұрын
He solved perfectly !🤗
@GargleBlast
@GargleBlast 2 ай бұрын
😮
@TheEuphoricism
@TheEuphoricism 3 күн бұрын
do gliders not have the 'impossible turn' ?
@hepdepaddel
@hepdepaddel 14 күн бұрын
0:44, 1:06 - that was quite slow while skidding (look at the jaw string) - the second time even with air brakes. 🫣
@raydunzl2025
@raydunzl2025 12 күн бұрын
The angle of the yaw string is accentuated due to the angle of the camera. Even when centered it appears off to the left in the camera. This glider is somewhat wobbly in yaw, always hunting back and forth. I agree there wasn't a slip, but the speed (around 70mph) was 25mph over stall at 45mph or less depending on the flap extension. No air brakes/spoilers on this glider, flaps only.
@lawrencemartin1113
@lawrencemartin1113 9 күн бұрын
Low turn back......🫣🤔?? Thank heavens that turned out the way it did.
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