Glitch Productions Responds to Controversy

So the other day i made a video about the glitch productions controversy. Since my video there was a bunch of new info so i think it’s worth discussing it. Kevin, glitch’s ceo ended up being doxxed and posted a full apology on the glitch twitter account. I’ll discuss what happened and then give my thoughts at the very end as well.
Before we start, i highly recommend watching my first video. It’s 4 minutes long and is important for context. However for a quick rundown. The voice actor of tari in smg4, celeste was recast with no warning from glitch. She found out via twitter and as a result animeamerica resigned as smg2. A discord response was made by a glitch staff member who worked with both of them which complicated things. Soon after some ex employees came forward with anonymous testimonies about their negative experiences working at the company. So as a result fans were extremely unhappy with the situation, leading to a mass boycott across various social media websites.
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[@MmeCShadow]

"They didn't explain the recasting" And they shouldn't, unless Celeste says it's okay to talk about. The voice director flat-out said he wouldn't discuss the reasoning without her permission. This is private. The audience does NOT have an innate right to everybody's dirty laundry.

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

So this all happened because Twitter doesn't understand when something is none of their business

[@Orionartz08]

@@CosmosStudios-ho5fg precisely

[@makeshiftparadox]

I take it you haven't seen the last video? Celeste gave us a rundown of what she got told, which was a confusing mess about her not seeming available enough even though she's never not been available or even missed a deadline. So, that's why people (and celeste probably) might want some more clarification on why?

[@christscrackers647]

To be honest I don’t really care about why she was fired. If she was fired for no reason, that seems highly unlikely to me, but that is very unprofessional on Glitch Productions’ part. It’s more than likely they are keeping the reasoning for the firing a secret because they know that if the actual reason got out idiots on Twitter would have even more of a field day with it and become more unhinged. Twitter dipshits need to shut the hell up and leave Glitch Productions alone. It ain’t that big a deal.

[@cutecharacterpower]

Thing is, Celeste gave her version of the story.

[@christscrackers647]

I swear Twitter is now just a mainstream version of 4chan. I hate Twitter so much.

[@thedraftingax5963]

Same here

[@trevortyrrell175]

Same here.

[@hilkom2]

Same here.

[@FBIRancher7590]

And Reddit too

[@christscrackers647]

@@FBIRancher7590 Agreed.

[@Screen_sketch]

Why, WHY! Why cant we have one good indie show without drama?!?

[@dravenvoices]

I know one show that doesn’t even have an episode or pilot out and is going through controversy.

[@bedigar757]

Welcome to the internet

[@I_Am_In_Your_Walls_Hide_Now]

what would you prefer?

[@Screen_sketch]

@@dravenvoices ok wtf that's like if Logan Paul got in controversy when his mom was in labor

[@Jaminsongunner]

Because Twitter lets you be a giant a$$h0le without revealing anything about urslef

[@IkeFanBoy64]

I'm a very forgiving person, but even I draw the line at doxxing and harassment. I hope that guy was reported to the police

[@JunkieRemix]

Probably not

[@Lonkshi21]

Police seriously need to be called

[@Orionartz08]

While the way he was forced to step forward was absolutely atrocious and should never happen to anyone at all, it’s quite noble of Kevin to step forward and address everything as CEO. But again, absolutely FUCKING DEPLORABLE that some fucker decided to Dox him, FORCING him to step forward semi-against his own will. I still Support Glitch regardless of this whole situation, and plan on doing so in the future. Here’s hoping everyone there is ok

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

Just for that I think I'll buy those figurines of Pomni and Caine

[@Orionartz08]

@@CosmosStudios-ho5fg Good on ya

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

@@Orionartz08I feel like this whole situation is just another big example of how dangerous and volatile Twitter can be.

[@Orionartz08]

@@CosmosStudios-ho5fg that’s why I think it’s smart for Viv to move to Threads, less big mouthed idiots screaming their insecurities into the void

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

@@Orionartz08We should all take example from that

[@Saltheslab]

I just feel bad for the cast and crew for TADC and Murder Drones. They have nothing to do with this aside from being under glitch productions. The posts advertising TADC merchandise for example have been flooded with people mad at Kevin instead of supporting the show.

[@fluxcptndavey4378]

1. Honestly Glad Kevin took the Time to write out the apology and didn't rush it. I'm also glad he held himself accountable for any bad experiences ex-employees had. (This is how an apology should be handled. An apology isn't just saying sorry.) 2. I personally think the reason Kevin left put the Celeste situation might mean that He is working things out with her in private and is trying to come up with a solution. Personally i hope thats hwat he's doing and I hope Celeste is compensated or given her role back? 3. While I understand why people felt the need to Boycott Glitch I personally didn't see that as the best solution seeing how doing that would cost a good amount of people their Jobs which in my opinion is a bit extreme. 4. I personally don't believe all the Anonymous sources as it could most likey just be trolls taking advantage of the situation to try and bring Glitch down, unless some of these sources are Public or show proof I choose not to believe them. All in all I personally think the response was handled very well and I hope the Situation with Celeste is being taken care of however I think its best to remain neutral on the situation and hold Glitch accountabke for what happened with Celeste and Possible past employees.

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

I don't think that will be as much of a problem after someone was literally doxxed

[@TheCrimsonCake]

When doxxing becomes apart of the situation, the whole “righteousness” that the twitter users used goes out the window. They don’t have any right to demand any of the info, especially if it’s about other people’s job.

[@darcydreaming6931]

Yeah im also of the belief that most if not all the negative experiences are fabricated, probably started by friends of the VA and continued by fans thinking they had grounds to make wild "justifiable" claims. Maybe one or two of them might have been true but I just don't really see that being the case

[@rubymeaddle7532]

Do people not realize that this is a job? And when you get fired, your former employer isn't supposed to tell everyone why you got fired?

[@Woodland_Adventures]

No no, that's a bad lady doing bad things. Obviously this is different because its a bad man having justice done to him. (sarcasm)

[@TinyVA]

Admittedly I was one of the people who was like "Hey where's the explanation for Celeste getting fired?" But after some realization I now understand that it's none of my business and fans don't deserve every explanation under the sun. I just hope Celeste gets/got the closure she deserves.

[@BiAndProud_]

Agreed. I hope so as well, but yes, the Celeste drama should most certainly be handled and sorted privately.

[@jujufoxie.-.]

Have people not learned that doxxing is *bad* !? I thought the ssniperwolf drama would teach these people that

[@RamsesTimeGame]

What do we expect? It's Twitter. Brain cells are lost in Twitter wars.

[@jujufoxie.-.]

@@RamsesTimeGame RIP to all the brain cells lost from twitter

[@NERMAL1984]

ikr sssniperwolf is innocent and they doxxed her for no reason

[@Vortex-ki4fg]

​@@NERMAL1984 she is not innocent, and she doxxed jacksfilms

[@OhKay_]

@@NERMAL1984... what?

[@Ryofist]

2:11 The staff member Cube, whose tweet you mentioned here, actually does work in the SMG4 department. They’re an assistant producer for the SMG4 series.

[@sparta-zh7yk]

Look i dont blame Kevin for not knowing how to run the company well, you know given the fact that he is new and never was a CEO before

[@punmasterlv1677]

Exactly! It’s a stressful job, one big mistake is guaranteed to happen at some point. I don’t think he didn’t message Celeste intentionally, I’m certain it was just some big mistake.

[@trevortyrrell175]

Funny how people are saying that Kevin is a terrible person and yet they doxed him, making them no better if not worse than Kevin.

[@thelivingliver6715]

yeah especially since hes legit a reasonable person who worked hard for glitch and smg4 for years

[@Elia04Ita]

Well, doxxing someone is a crime, not explaining something to your community (people that want to complain) isn't

[@LuceoX30]

If Glitch is willing to change, it makes it automatically better than Twitter.

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

Wow, I think Glitch Productions must not be happy about this whole controversy thing. Also I saw the first video and I feel pretty bad for Celeste and even Anime America made a video similar to this.😬

[@Soisoy54]

Which are you more excited for, TADC episode 2 or Murder Drones episode 7?

[@suspiciousstar7547]

@@Soisoy54 Both!

[@Soisoy54]

@@suspiciousstar7547 Not you, her!

[@BlueVolt682]

Europe exists too 😊

[@StarshineMelody5678]

I’m so sorry Kevin got Doxxed it’s pretty fucked up by whoever did this. Many companies have different departments. What happens in one department isn’t the CEOs fault automatically. What’s important it’s that the CEO and managers deal with the situation presented. But as a CEO he’s not all knowing and has to be notified. Even so probably Jasmine fired Tari’s voice actor without the correct process as she claims and this made everyone who loves toxicity jump in.

[@nathancabatana4328]

I’m just happy that the drama about glitch is finally over and we can just enjoy the time waiting for murder drones episode 7 and 8 and the amazing digit circus.❤

[@adamk-paxlogan7330]

Can we not have drama for 5 minutes

[@Im_free_now]

nope 😭

[@trevortyrrell175]

It's Twitter or as I like to name it Twatter, most users there don't know how to be civil.

[@rosykindbunny1313]

Honestly I'm not fazed by this anymore

[@FIRE_BOMB1]

Here’s some popcorn for everyone else watching from the bleachers: 🍿🍿🍿

[@I_Am_In_Your_Walls_Hide_Now]

Why cant we even enjoy a damn show without any drama?!

[@123viewer6]

I seen that profile a lot is it famous or something?

[@iamretrosquirrel]

Because there’s sadly always gonna be someone who wants to start/find drama in anything😔

[@daddydwaved]

Yea And can’t let this happen nowadays 😡😡

[@stellarbastard98]

Because Twitter.

[@Actualbravo]

​@@iamretrosquirrelyeah, if there is anything make someone or people fun, then some people want to ruin it right away

[@MillyKKitty]

A very unfortunate mishap that led to a much worse situation. The faults of the staff here and their response is much better than whatever is happening with Nijisanji, whose alleged contract even states they can tell their employees about their firing any way they wish anywhere until the very moment they get fired.

[@nanaliz7210]

Yay they responded and apologized unfortunately that's not gonna shut people on Twitter up but I'm still gonna enjoy and support the stuff they make

[@scottvgamer1163]

I know I’m very late, but from what I’ve seen on Twitter, surprisingly, it actually did pretty much shut at least most of them up.

[@CuteCanadianGirl2007]

Honestly im not surprised Twitter did that to him Twitter is a terrible place full of immature people

[@stargirl-po2qm]

The next episode of murder drones isn't delayed, it's the finale that's delayed. Episode 8 is not the next episode, episode 7 is.

[@oakenshadow6763]

And the doxing now has me pissed. There is no reason to dox someone other than to endanger them and get them hurt. None. They meant harm, and made everything worse. Really think someone who's life is now in danger is going to be inclined to be kind and helpful? No. They should be angry and scared. The fact these testimonies are anonymous is questionable, and makes me not trust it. The lady should not have had her job discontinued without warning. That was wrong. But this reaction from people is WAY out of line.

[@bedigar757]

Love the KinikoPet gameplay

[@maliyawright3088]

Fr KinitoPet is goated🐐

[@thedraftingax5963]

That was fire and so much fun to play!

[@higbeeproductions2340]

It’s like no matter how much you try to be honest with an apology. People will still think it’s not good enough… like what do you want?

[@dylanwhipple9882]

Problems most likely

[@Crowstal]

I think people have waaaay too high standards for indie studios. Not everyone is going to have the best time unfortunately. Thats no reason to completely boycott an entire animation studio. Its definitely gonna be a lot worse with tv productions, they have a lot more pressure and less creative freedom.

[@keeganmcfarland7507]

Thank fucking God, Kevin (the CEO of Glitch Productions) has responded in a good, and healthy way! God, I hope Kevin and his crew at Glitch Productions decides to start addressing those issues at their workplace, learn from their mistakes, and never do that again. I also hope that the last two episodes of Murder Drones (season 1) doesn't suck ass. Also, fuck those toxic people/weak-minded people!

[@PorkiFerret]

Since it’s a thing between business and one employee, I feel that the only one who deserves answers is Celeste. The public needs to learn how to cope with not knowing about everything and respect the privacy and boundaries of others. Consent is key to many things, this being included. If the situation was a story similar to a lot of big named companies where workers are essentially are given no autonomy and worked like machines, I can see wanting the public to know as much as possible to raise awareness of awful conditions - but that’s not what this is.

[@Aural4444]

Personally I think that the Celeste recast was an honest mistake, and even if it wasn't, in my opinion they don't owe Celeste the role, maybe they just wanted to give the opportunity to another VA because the character would be in a very different vibe than the original (Totally Comedy), it would be a different story if Celeste had been harassed or not paid, but the problem is that they didn´t contact her to rehire her, and while it may have hurt her pride and feelings as a VA, it isn´t illegal or unforgivable in my opinion . I think Kev doesn't owe the fans a "response" about Celeste's recast, since this is between Snap4 and Celeste, but I really appreciated her letter, it felt sincere.

[@recoverme5065]

No matter what, even if someone is labeled a scum of the earth or worse, DOXXING IS NEVER THE SOLUTION. Not only that, but outside members of the scope should never be involved at all. These matters are those involved in matters and the company itself, and while concerning as it sounds, it does not mean we are entitled to know what is going on.

[@hobocat_]

Can we all just drop it out cause i like Glitch. i just dont want it to be destroyed over controversy

[@fluffydogboo1335]

Can people’s first response not be doxing? Like this is the third case in the past 6 months that I’ve heard of in different situations, there are better ways of showing dissatisfaction rather than endangering people ffs, feels like we really are going back to the Salem witch trials these days

[@joshonline-im6fg]

its sad how people get so mad at others that they think the best possible action to take is to put someones life in danger by showing were they live why do people think thats the best course of action

[@Set666Abominae]

An apology is only as good as the action that follows. With labour disputes, it’s imperative that concrete steps are laid out so that we not only know how a company intends on improving, but can then hold them to account if they don’t.

[@atlas2296]

I will say that it isn't up to the employee if they keep their job. Employers have a right to remove insufficient or unnecessary employees as they see fit. Also something I have learned throughout my time on this planet is that there is a reason behind everything and often times that reason will be valid. No one ever just says "Hmm, I feel like firing someone today". We might never know the true reason but whatever it is, based on Kevin's accountability, I believe it is good

[@ladlefox13054]

On this point, as an smg4 viewer I did notice that Tari almost never actually had full voice acting, usually only being voice clips. (other than western spaghetti) So, I feel like that could have been part of the reason.

[@Zekrel]

When one drama ends… another appears in its place. “What a wonderful world we live in,” he said sarcastically.

[@smallboyjevilYT]

I don’t get why someone does one thing wrong, and the whole Internet is against them. Everyone is human we all make mistakes. And if some people can’t accept that then frankly, I don’t think that they should be giving a point by Showing someone’s exact home address some people need to realize that everyone has a life and showing the world where they live, could actually end their life cuz of some the sickos in this world

[@Trainboy17]

Indie Animation Has Been Going Really Well Only For Drama To Come In And Screw Over Upcoming Projects. And That Is Just Sinful

[@willpower8289]

Why the hell can’t we just have a single day without drama?

[@deadshadow322]

Welcome to the internet

[@youtoozboi763]

@@deadshadow322Have a look around

[@ed_cmntonly]

​@@deadshadow322 have a look around

[@deadshadow322]

@@ed_cmntonly Anything that brain of yours can think of can be found

[@pokenart2267]

I'm happy this drama has finally ended, and about Celeste, they should fix that privatley

[@anonymousssshh]

I'm glad they responded

[@Trident_Gaming03]

As horrible as doxxing is, they said they would post his house every day until he addressed the controversy, and it was addressed the next day

[@MOJA616]

I feel like glitch should get their story straight and speak the truth

[@hotnopgames]

And people shouldnt be doxxing them

[@MOJA616]

@@hotnopgames of course but the main reason people are pissed is the lack of answers, each time a glitch employee talks about this topic it's a whole new story or they avoid answering

[@Aural4444]

But they have given an answer in the letter XD In any case, Celeste's problem is that they didn´t rehire her (Which is a contradiction with the arguments that say that working there is horrible) which is neither illegal nor unforgivable and much less deserves a boycott lol

[@ryanm4166]

​@@MOJA616doxxing isn't a way to get answers.

[@MOJA616]

@@ryanm4166 of course doxxing is wrong and I'm not trying to justify that, but I'm saying that glitch should've said the truth from the start

[@letsgogaming8112]

Twitter responding to drama in a rational and non-hostile way challenge (impossible):

[@stellarbastard98]

Controversy aside, I think it's amazing how Kevin and Luke started off by making silly Mario videos and then founded a full blown animation studio. I mean come on, they've got an ex-Blue Sky Studios animator on their side, if that doesn't define "*actual animation studio*", I don't know what does! Hope they can keep going and don't get demotivated by the controversy, Twitter can be a bitch most of the time...

[@Biggest_Kinger_Fan]

I still support Glitch! I can’t wait for episode 2 of TADC and I hope their merch sells well.

[@pokewest9939]

Using meggy as an example I think they try to use voice actors that are in use on glitch and plus them thinking, she wasn’t gonna be available anymore thought it would be time to replace her. I don’t know how she wouldn’t of known about, though I think something was just miscommunicated.

[@MohamedAhmed-ll8hi]

It’s quiet nice to sit down and watch both sides fighting each other(my opinion)

[@tailskid1891]

Form what I heard someone said celeste wasn’t available so glitch never talked to her to confirm if it was true I think it was just a huge mistake and about the not treating animators right I don’t think it necessary harass/ boycott glitch for some that happened years ago yes I’m sorry to the animators that feel over worked but I watched glitches when it started and it’s shows used to come out once a week and only with around 8-12 episodes which a year breaks from new content so I believe the over worked this but glitch was a new company at the time with no experience owning a animation studio and now glitch gives their animations plenty of time to work on episodes I feel like it a little unnecessary to slap them on the wrist for some they already worked on improving if they still overworked the animation murder drones episode 7 and 8 would have came out already

[@justcallmezero.]

I wish people cared this much about the large companies doing similar things with little to no drama. Imagine how much better some media (and maybe even the world as a whole) could be if we boycotted companies for being terrible and generally anti consumer AND anti employee.

[@TransGuyOnTheFly]

Looks like it’s just a company that’s growing and learning? I see no reason to stop supporting them.

[@officiallyzap]

The thing bad with smg4/glitch atm is that they gained such a huge audience that they grabbed the twitter weirdos that devote their life to the OG VAs and start cult hating on anything that happens to them

[@bedroombunny9529]

If I was working for someone and I quit, was let go, fired, etc. I would be INCREDIBLY pissed off if they went around telling everyone why just because some randoms on the internet that had nothing to do with the situation wanted to know. Why are these creative fields seen as any different? It is not anyone else's business but the people involved.

[@Moonslices]

The Kinito Pet gameplay 😭 Anyway i am rlly mad abt this. Why is it that everytime someone comes out with a new, well made, good quality indie show that really should cause no controversy because of its content because it either has a warning or doesnt have any innapropriate stuff at all, somebodys gotta start shit. Why. They just wanna make their shows but no, thats not allowed here in the lawless land of the trolls. It sucks and i wish people would just shut up already and leave these poor creators alone

[@MisterMixxy]

Here's my line of thought: no studio that is only managing to produce like 10-20 minutes of animation every three or four months is overworking their staff.

[@scottvgamer1163]

Depends, because many of them probably either aren’t as “skilled” or experienced as animators in a professional (non indie) studio, and they also might not have as many staff as them either, which I heard might have been the case for the HR department (which apparently didn’t even have a manager, although they started looking for one recently).

[@ChippyBoi-MRF]

If this makes the smg4 channel end then I'm actually gonna explode

[@collinkeyser6827]

Is This VA Situation Similar To What Happened With The Hazbin Hotel Pilot VA's?

[@beccamoore2402]

Not really, they were aware that pilot voices aren’t always kept.

[@Grim_666-]

These people boycotting are not real fans of Glitch, if they were then why in the fuck are they boycotting them???

[@officiallyzap]

Its just twitter dwellers that spend 24/7 on the news seeing Company Treats employees bad so we have to gather our shitstain diaper warriors and boycott them

[@SuperLucario64]

First, Jacksfilms gets doxxed by SSSniperwolf, and now THIS?! What in the world is this world coming to?

[@IrideTheProtogen]

so to sum it up... the entire drama is just some people had a negative experience working at a company. no matter how good the company is thats gonna happen

[@misaskrab8]

My boyfriend has been working for a company that went from "we have no money" start up to "we are now almost a corporation" company. They're PEOPLE guys. They dont know what they're doing. Those aren't CEOs and managers who are roughed up by years of working within the industry. They aren't perfect. This happens. Recast could happen for many reason. Money, time, anything...it happens! (Things could be improved if the law actually protected workers, right? Like in my country, where you have to be notified two months before being let go by law??) and sometimes, esp. when companies go from zero budget to "yay we have money now!" They go a bit crazy. This wasnt a good decision. No way! Glitch is at fault for how they handled it. But it's not a reason to cancel them. They aren't netflix or amazon, just a small company that is still learning and growing. Give them time before y'all decide...

[@sayathedog8171]

Regardless of what they did I still like their content. Now I'm not defending them or anything cause what they did was bad, But to people complaining about "Creator's you like being bad people" You are valid to feel upset when a creator that makes something you like ends up as a bad person but it all comes down to stopping the common pattern of putting creators on a pedastal And trust me, I've been there, but sometimes the best thing to do is to remember that YOU DON'T KNOW THE CREATOR PERSONALLY, no matter how kind or nice they are or no matter how good their work is. You can like their work or casually speak to them with praise but never put creators you've never met personally on a pedastal of "they make my favorite thing so they MUST be a good person". It just sets you up for a bad future, no matter if a creator ends up "a bad person" or not.

[@TheCrimsonCake]

I don’t use twitter, so thankfully I won’t be contaminated by listening to you. Thanks for risking your sanity!

[@PartsanElk]

Oh no it begins😢

[@coryxkenshinsamurai1160]

What begins?

[@PartsanElk]

@@coryxkenshinsamurai1160 chaos (⁠╯⁠︵⁠╰⁠,⁠)

[@PartsanElk]

@@coryxkenshinsamurai1160 chaos (⁠╯⁠︵⁠╰⁠,⁠)

[@PartsanElk]

​@@coryxkenshinsamurai1160 chaos (⁠╯⁠︵⁠╰⁠,⁠)

[@PartsanElk]

Chaos (⁠╯⁠︵⁠╰⁠,⁠)

[@kiplee-musicgirl23]

I noticed KintioPet in the background

[@darcydreaming6931]

That explains why their last post wasn't flooded with more hotheaded randos screaming their heads off. Glad it's all been settled somewhat. Fun content aside, Glitch actually seem like nice people.

[@rosykindbunny1313]

This is why we can't have nice things

[@daddydwaved]

Then we must make those nice things

[@Actualbravo]

Nice things always fuck up because someone doesnt like the nice thing

[@daddydwaved]

Yea but we should not give attention to those ungrateful people and get nice things from the respectful people

[@irkenpony17]

Yeah, it was really on Levin and man stood up for himself and the company there. Thankfully it’s for the most part settled. Sure there is background stuff still unresolved but it shouldn’t be demanded to see it. Privacy still exists and should be respected. That fucker however who doxxed Kevin should face jail time. I hate how Doxxing despite it being a VERY ILLEGAL crime, is just used carelessly and practically like blackmail, it’s stupid. People are becoming bold for no reason and I wish people took it very seriously. And by serious, I mean FACE the consequences for even doing it. I think people have gotten away with it for so long, it’s just done without thought. Also to add, I do feel for the brothers, because really this is actually a common mistake for starting companies. I believe it’s because it’s an indie studio, with pretty good ideas and shows, AND people are dicks enough to compare to others like with Lackidaisy and Helluva Boss. People out Glitch on a pedestal and treated it like it could do no wrong. But everyone is human. Humans make mistakes, it they can learn,

[@HalogenFEAR]

The kinito pet footage caught me off guard.

[@harpitorious]

of course we can't have anything good without drama being started everything on the internet is a debate, EVERYTHING

[@bronyferienminuet2125]

why do i get the feelign that like, this is just the hazbin drama all over again. and people ''anonly'' saying this stuff, aren't people from the staff at all

[@janellewarren2119]

Did anyone tell them about this cuz like when I looked on the Channel I didn't see anything about this on it so do they not know or just did none of y'all tell them

[@Minos_prime_ultrakil]

This is like the fnaf plus drama

[@Minos_prime_ultrakil]

One of the best upcoming fangame got cancelled gor the dumbest reasson

[@Minos_prime_ultrakil]

*for*

[@Mr.SnekMeister]

While I stopped watching SMG4 and Glitch due to the direction they took. I highly despise the feral behavior of the fanbase just from a minor infraction, this happens with damn near anything nowadays. Whether it's video games, movies, TV shows, and of course indie shows, boycotting is an absolutely terrible action and to dox someone just because you're pissed off is highly deserving of a forever stay in Hell. But this is primarily the reason why I don't use social media anymore. People, there are just a bunch of immature, feral cretins.

[@godofdrip4889]

People need to leave glitch alone

[@akarts8854]

Honestly,im giving kevin and smg4 the benefit of the doubt. Glitch productions is still a relatively new company. They must have their hiccups,the problem is twitter just likes overblowing things for the sake of drama.

[@urbestbud8850]

This ordeal is confusing for me, mainly because there is no solid evidence for either side. Just because someone can write a lengthy essay on "x" and "y" doesn't always give credibility.

[@intoxicanyx4687]

This is 1 of the reasons why crazy people on the internet have too much power. (What was that you laid off 1 of your workers and didn't inform them because of a slight human error It's OK let me just dox your entire lively hood)

[@caboose-kx8bi]

Glitch: One person gets recast without being told why -> Nightmare drama Hazbin hotel: Recasts everyone who worked on the show for also no apparent reason -> No one cares What is this double standard crap?

[@graveyardghost]

I am so sorry, but why os this drama? A company decided to let an employee go. This happens a hundred times daily, its life, it isn't news, it isn't even a bad thing, why are people so up in arms about it?

[@scottvgamer1163]

Because the voice actor wasn’t made aware about it until fans noticed the change in the episode itself. According to the voice director, they merely forgot to let her know, which had yet to be disproven. Then the VA herself came out and said the the REASON she was replaced had something to do with availability, despite her saying she had no issues in the past being available to record new lines. It’s just a bit of a messy situation, but I feel as long as her not being notified WAS nothing more than a legitimate mistake, I say we let it go.

[@misty_ferretXD]

WAIT WAIT WAIT, KEVIN WAS DOXXED??? HE DID A SHITTY THING, BUT HE DOESNT DESERVE TO GET DOXXED WTFF?!

[@mileslo_hobbies]

When I release my show. I will not be on twitter anymore.

[@Ababakau123]

😢

[@liotheeeveetrainer4305]

Kevin and Luke might be the most wholsoke producers in history they nrver got mad took all the hate and even a doxing attepmpt and said they were sorry THAT THEY WERE SORRY! This honestly kind of amazing

[@Exitation_N]

My name is Celeste😮

[@user-qz6cg5vw1v]

Really love your videos!!!

[@Glasseater-je6vx]

Oh boy, more controversy!

[@Soldier_gaming_real]

It keeps scaring me that you do stuff other than shorts

[@MXProductions2024]

First the Weegeepie controversy, now Glitch's drama. Oh boy, now what's next?

[@SugarCube-ws6wb]

feel like alot of twitter users gonna get into drama like usual again

[@MXProductions2024]

@@SugarCube-ws6wb Yeah, that seems about right

[@acme-cn8uy]

Can we watch space king now???

[@fuwarikandi]

YAYYY AYY LMAO UPLOADED :D

[@Lonkshi21]

This entire drama is just pure brainrot

[@80yearoldman98]

Ohhh your the did you notice this in hazbin hotel guy

[@sarah_N0va]

Was The controversy Even confirmed or did ppl just hear some mfer say it and rolled with it☠️

[@MidnightMushiVA357]

Idk what's going on, can someone explain to me what the controversy is?

[@bedigar757]

Voice actor got replaced and found out via Twitter, and is left to wonder why they got replaced

[@dravenvoices]

Glitch runs a KZbin channel called SMG4. One of the SMG4 voice actors got replaced without the notice of the former actor. This caused a lot of other things (such as another voice actor quitting and allegations about Glitch being a shitty work environment). Now Glitch is in some controversy.

[@I_Am_In_Your_Walls_Hide_Now]

Also Kevin (Glitch productions CEO i think) got doxxed

[@MidnightMushiVA357]

@@dravenvoices oh kk tysm for telling me ^-^

[@MidnightMushiVA357]

@@bedigar757 ty for telling me :D

[@alicewright8367]

There seems to be a witch hunt for any indie production doing well and people making a big thing out of literally nothing. Every workplace has disgruntled employees. People need to Gtf over it.

[@jameshenry9157]

I forgive you Kevin 🙂

[@manen2391]

Honestly, I do think this is a case of someone forgot, from all that I’ve read on it Glitch is doing what some call cleaning house or reorganization, which If it’s as much as they claim can cause a lot of chaos in upper management especially when you’re adding hr as the indie way gets thrown out the window when hr is involved, likely there were jobs and assignments that got switched around, and the job of telling Celeste got thrown somewhere and forgotten, thinking it had been done they probably continued the va recast, and honestly the reason might not be fair or it might be the availability issue as all we have to go on for that are the words of Celeste and her friend Robyn or Anime America, who also threw more oil on the fire by saying they didn’t believe the apology, which is totally fair and valid for them to do, but honestly you do have to take the words of past employees with a grain of salt especially without physical proof because Glitch being professional hasn’t released the reason why they are past employees and nor are they supposed to unless that person has told them they could, so while Celeste has said the reason why, unless she explicitly tells glitch they can say why she was fired it’s not something they can do silly nilly, because honestly everyone in this situation is a person,and people make mistakes, even horrible ones like this, they can misinterpret things and things can slip people’s minds

[@manen2391]

And on the whole availability thing, if Glitch did fire her with that reason in mind, when someone has a kid or another job let alone both, it’s innocent enough to think oh this person might not be as available and without the rest of the situation it would seem more valid a reason, because they might be more exhausted, might not be able to do the job properly, availability isn’t always based on if you can show up, it’s if you can show up and do quality work without being overworked, and in a company adding hr, it might have seen like the right move to find someone more available , and no I’m not taking sides but honestly to me and all the information available it really does read as a horrible mistake, that was followed by a disastrous misunderstanding

[@StarSteve681]

Honestly I agree just wished they would apologize to her if they did then I be fully comfortable watching glitch productions without feeling guilty

[@manen2391]

@@StarSteve681 honestly as far I can tell is that they did, and this is based of Celeste’s response to this, but neither her or Robyn her friend believed it, which is fair you don’t have to take an apology, but they’ve apologized publicly and seeming privately as well if my interpretation of Celeste’s response is correct

[@officiallyzap]

@@StarSteve681yea most likely in private cuz its not the public/twitter dwellers that need to hear about it