GM Daniel Naroditsky analyses Vishy - Nikhil Kamath Game

[@visheshsingh4443]

In the end Vishy Sir played best engine move by resigning and exposing this shit..😂😂

[@anubirflora1661]

If you can cheat in a charity game with such low stakes, imagine what he would do when stakes are high. Makes you wonder!

[@leueltrinidad6901]

He's probably doing it already ;D

[@mayankbhaisora2699]

- Agadmator

[@mazajee]

he's a billionaire, ofc he is

[@sinner2499]

but he doesnt even care

[@sweetdreams9700]

That’s not how it works

[@rabindhamala9990]

Qe8+ nikhil has 7:50 mins on clock and to play kh7 (almost the only move, or Qf8 loses the advantage) he took two mins. He probably was genuinely trying to lose on time at the end and the tables turned when vishy resigned. In the end, vishy came out a bigger winner.

[@janmejaypanda5414]

Yeah man Vishy is too smart.

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

Yeah Nikhil wanted brag that he would've won if he had more time. Lost on timeout in winning position, but Vishy resigned and nos nikhil gets what he deserves the backslash

[@Life-Sky]

You can have a 99% accuracy game against an opponent that makes many mistakes and so every move is winning, but if I played a game like that against the 5 times World Champion then I would quit everything and just dedicate to chess lmao

[@thegoldenbird9]

Shows how he became billionaire.

[@auctal4625]

Well thats what makes u a billionaire

[@rohitb405]

Behind every fortune, there's a crime.

[@hiffets1]

@@abhinaytej5312 he used an engine to get his moves. Basically didn't use his brain at all.

[@sourabhg284]

@KingZlatan no cap

[@Bsliggs]

How can someone make so much money unless they do everything unethical to win?

[@bmoneybby]

"Basically the computer compares the game to Magnus Carlsen and if it's better than him you're cheating. " Damn that's hardcore

[@Nippleless_Cage]

Nepomniatchi: *i'm in danger*

[@aviralbhatnagar4982]

This is the most logical dude I have seen...

[@Trynottoblink]

Well he’s a GM rated over 2600 who’s studied the game his entire life, so of course his analysis will be thoroughly logical.

[@Ravindersingh-mn8zb]

How can you cheat in a charity stream against our legend Vishy sir yrr. This is so ridiculous.

[@sins7894]

He is also from country

[@ArtisticPriyaSharma]

Vishy: Thank you for the pawn Stockfish: Your welcome

[@GGxEpsilon]

💯😂

[@harsharya545]

yeh badhiya tha guru

[@chilliram]

This just makes me livid! You pick the greatest and the humblest of chess geniuses and do this against him. Money can buy computers and a team to help you cheat, but money can't buy class. Sad day for chess.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

You can understand Anand's level in Chess with this simple game: he basically beated the engine without even trying hard from the beginning!

[@kylejohnson8447]

I don’t understand this point of view. How do you think vishy beat the computer when his position was completely lost.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

@@kylejohnson8447 because in "real" Chess you play with time, and he could flag him. But he played with an engine. So he beated (almost😆) the engine. And the position wouldn't be so bad for Vishy if he knew from move One he was basically playing against a Carlsen on steroids

[@kylejohnson8447]

@@andreitiberiovicgazdovici the position was completely lost. The HUMAN was low on time while the COMPUTER was outplaying vishy.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

@@kylejohnson8447 you don't get It... IF Vishy was concious from move 1 he was playing against engine, he wouldn't entered this line in the First Place. He played random solid Chess, he was expecting a random game, not a "Battle for the Ages" and still he could beat the opponent. Same as Alireza against Magnus. Magnus was Dead Lost but time expired and doesn't matter the position on the board, Alireza Lost the game

[@kylejohnson8447]

​@@andreitiberiovicgazdovici I get your point. I am simply saying that no matter what, the engine will always play better moves on average than vishy, magnus, fischer, etc. A random non-chess player inputting engine moves slowly does not, by any stretch of the imagination, equate to Vishy nearly beating a computer.

[@MisterShine1912]

What does he mean by "as an 800 you'd be freaking out of losing another pawn"? I mean I'm 1200 and I don't even see me hanging a piece

[@chriswong8821]

I mean, you freak out after the hanging piece is taken, no?

[@parasverma7320]

@@chriswong8821 not really, I am 1100 and 80% of my games include piece blunder from both sides. At this level even queen up is not guaranteed win.

[@dannygjk]

If you saw the variation.

[@rohitkarlekar1287]

this guy is the sagar shah of another nation in his explanation ( the way he explains )

[@treefuns5056]

GM Naroditsky, whereas Sagar Shah is an IM

[@rohitkarlekar1287]

@@treefuns5056 the way he explains, i meant

[@jacobshor5956]

But the thing is there isn’t any way to catch someone who cheats for just a few moves. Maybe they have a few ideas in a complex middle game and an engine tells them which is best. Tons of plausible deniability and there would be no way to catch them despite it being unfair. Same goes for someone who forgets their opening preparation. Tons of people memorize plenty of opening moves so using an engine in the opening then turning it off after getting a strong middle game position is equally reliable. I can’t see any way for these to be caught though

[@GGxEpsilon]

We have to wait for Over the board games.

[@kanishkchahar7261]

Nikhil confirmed in a tweet that he cheated

[@treefuns5056]

That is preparation, and preparation is not illegal. If you use evaluation or chess engine during a game then only it's cheating.

[@Lol-qy1dy]

Very good explanation

[@LeventK]

Here before the kid who will have stolen the "Always wondered how Vishy Anand vs Stockfish 12 would look like" joke.

[@mayankverma9494]

It was definitely stockfish 13

[@LeventK]

@@mayankverma9494 This reply is also stolen lol

[@adhi_r]

This dude is everywhere

[@ritul2345]

Would have been More interesting if Vishy knew he was competing Against Stockfish too, he played some lose moves thinking he is playing at most a good player not a Stockfish.

[@figmentinfinity8259]

Vishy is a chess legend, and when he sees an 800 playing like this there is no way he doesn't know it is an engine.

[@rishabhgoyal1044]

Analyse vishy's game with sajid and sandeep too...

[@Trynottoblink]

This would be great.

[@Planterobeets]

Nikhil is the goat , he only say he cheated to make Vishy look good, Nikhil knows everything and is a billionaire because he’s smarter than everyone in everything. - Nikhil’s imagination

[@violetasuklevska9074]

All contreversy aside Stockfish never ceases to amaze.

[@Ssstrickyy]

Great explanation

[@thegoldenbird9]

Best analysis.

[@bishnudash90]

Kindly review the matches against sudeep and Nadiadwala too, it seems like they also hv cheated

[@rabindhamala9990]

I just don't understand why cheat against one of the all time great. It's just a charity game. He is already a very successful man(billionaire). What is the point of trying to win against vishy by unfair means. Even when you think it through this doesn't make sense.

[@JashDoshi]

all indians have ego.

[@indradutta8289]

@@JashDoshi he had or maybe for some fun

[@JashDoshi]

@@indradutta8289 cheating is not fun i suppose

[@shivamkumar-ng4dk]

Vishy is also an indian, in whole world, there are many good ego peoples

[@rogerfedererc5315]

@@JashDoshi wow, just wow

[@what-mk1yx]

He plays this mov--- Nikil : bro I am just looking at the screen and copy the move from the screen

[@ooorigami4166]

There were I think two more people who cheated in the event too, Vishy managed to beat them and their accounts got banned

[@hiffets1]

Vishy can beat engines. Big deal.

[@dobromirzlatev435]

then why did he lost? Your comment is not relevant...? Why so many likes? Turn off your like bots

[@shivamkumar-ng4dk]

@@dobromirzlatev435 he was winning on time because nikhil was taking muuch time he had only only 12.5 when vishy resigned , But hecouldflag him

[@hiffets1]

@@dobromirzlatev435 dude if I had like bots I would not be commenting against AI. And watch the game...Vishy was winning on time. He could have flagged the player. And this is called "dark humor" lighten up. Monday blues are common but hope you have a beautiful week ahead 🌞

[@dobromirzlatev435]

@@hiffets1 i'll give you a pass because your name is of an ex girl which I loved and also the name of a new girl I met which I kinda like.

[@dobromirzlatev435]

@@shivamkumar-ng4dk to you and the 4 like bots who liked your comment: That doesnt mean Vishy can beat engines, it means Vishy can beat cheaters on time if he wanted to (this particular cheater on this occasion - he could have played faster too)

[@lijosebastian8167]

This shows his mentality,he will do anything to achieve win.No matter it's right or wrong(even it's for the cause of the charity) .no wonder he became a billionaire. On other hand Vishy knew his opponent was cheating but he didn't complaint or argued.he just let it go.(Even though he could flag him ,he just resigned and make the opponent's impossible dream makes come true.) Really shame on u cheater.

[@michaelbedford8017]

This puzzled me; why Vishy let him win? The GM seems to be saying; that by losing, the game would get the maximum exposure around the world among both chessplayers and non-players. If he won, non-players wouldn't be surprised or interested in hearing more about it.

[@horadathirumala8265]

Nikhil gambit😂😂

[@mviv6339]

Nikhil has accepted in a tweet that he cheated with the help of engines and other people.

[@KironKabir]

twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio/status/1404320236543696898?s=20

[@chilliram]

Makes me sadder that a billionaire could find a team to help him cheat but couldn't find one person to tell him this was unethical and a crime against chess and Vishy's fans .

[@naska678]

@@chilliram crime ?? i think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it really is

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

@@naska678 you're Indian and yet you think playing in a CHARITY event for COVID relief in INDIA the most badly hit country and against Vishy Anand THE CHESS LEGEND to use engine and make him look bad? For what? Your ego

[@naska678]

@@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n no . Using engine was shit move . But making it this big of an issue is non sense . His company zerodha is doing a phenomenal work in Bengaluru .

[@redandblue1013]

My right ear enjoyed this video

[@GGxEpsilon]

Maybe get your left ear checked?

[@gurbindersekhon8240]

We don't call these guys cheaters...we call them chutiya

[@staminabs8312]

So to become a billionaire i gotta be a genius or a cheater :(

[@nikhil.k3]

You gotta bring devotion to become any of these

[@thegoldenbird9]

Sajid also cheated till move 26. I don't know who else cheated.

[@alphagonist4748]

Sudeep too

[@thegoldenbird9]

@@alphagonist4748 An enquiry should be done on all games.

[@vivekdahiya9297]

That's how you make that much money.

[@MrMikekydd]

99 is very suspicious against equally matched opponents. 99 can happen when your opponent plays very poorly.

[@orlock20]

Sombody did a Scholar's Mate against the computer and it still didn't give a rating over 90.

[@royallord1116]

@@orlock20 cuz the queen moves in the mate is considered inaccuracy or a mistake and the bishop move too is not a best move

[@afifkhaja]

How was accuracy 99% when move 1 was a blunder

[@Leipaa]

It is apparently a book move (a very bad book move but some obscure gambit line).

[@alivolution]

Ross gambit

[@dannygjk]

Some book files have blunders in them.

[@sir_Edguhh]

Imagine being so good at chess that if someone says that someone played better than you they’re cheating. Magnus is🐐

[@bunty19881]

This guy is a billionaire and how insecure he is about losing a game against a GM for a charity. What a pathetic guy he is. It shows how much ego he has.

[@RamRamRamRamRam.]

He is cheater

[@theguy9067]

Kamath admitted to using an engine. This was a light hearted match between an 800 and a grand master. On no universe would anyone think an 800 could play like this and Kamath hasn't tried to convince anyone this was the case. Kamath didn't even attempt to convince anyone that he was NOT cheating before or after the game so in my opinion I don't think there was Ill intent. People are taking this too seriously

[@phishhammer9733]

Yeah, and Mark McGuire didn't shout "I'm not using steroids!" before and after every home run, but that didn't imply that everyone should have assumed he was. The assumption is that competitors are going to compete fairly. This guy didn't. It was a shitty thing to do. Any serious chess fan/player will understand this guy had no chance of beating Vishy, but that is not so obvious to everyone. I told my roommate about this story and he didn't even realize it was possible to cheat at chess using computers. This guy has talked up his interest in chess and how it made him a better businessman in the past, but then goes and disrespects the game by cheating when given a chance to play against one of the greatest players of all time. It's not the end of the world, but I understand why people are upset. Honestly, "he never said he WASN'T cheating" is the most nonsense argument I've heard in a while.

[@eddiefalhaus6195]

The 'just for fun' and 'taking this too seriously' doesn't make sense to justify cheating. An analogy- a fun charity event pits a bunch of joe schmoes who can work together against the best Jeopardy contestant of all time. But one of the guys found out the questions and looked up the answers ahead of time. The 'light-hearted' part isn't seeing a cheater cheat. The 'light-hearted' part is seeing all these people take on one hot shot. Cheating just wrecks the whole 'light-hearted' events as it was designed. You can't just unilaterally change the event to 'How many bots can a GM take on' without telling anyone.

[@catgenocide6940]

I honestly disagree with the entire sentiment against this guy. First of all, you guys are vastly underrating 800s. 800s CAN play like this. I've seen it. I've lost to 800s who play the exact same way. Second of all, he is a billionaire. With that kind of brain, its not implausible that he could be a very, very strong 800. Third, as humans we should always give the benefit of the doubt. Praise someone for playing well before you suspect them of cheating.

[@GGxEpsilon]

Well he himself admitted to cheating. So that's the end of that.

[@catgenocide6940]

@@GGxEpsilon due to public backlash and disbelief he "admitted" to cheating.

[@anonymous5784ui]

must be trolling XD

[@spiny4858]

my stupid person detector is going crazy right now

[@Shubham-np6od]

Why would he admit to cheating if he wasn't. Moreover his apology didn't even sounded like one. Hikaru said even if Magnus played this game it would've raised suspicions ... how can 800 rated player play such a game.

[@surakarthikeya3702]

Nikhil kamath was rated 2000 when he was at the age of 14 he Left school for chess at that age . . . Later he became an enterprainur and left chess . . . So he may not be cheating

[@auctal4625]

Lmao shut up

[@zacha6066]

Vishy can simul 6 2000 rated players and win on white. Not valid

[@suprith7178]

Check his Twitter dude he only confirmed it

[@shubhamsikarwar9268]

He was not rated 2000 On fide list there is only one Nikhil Kamath whose rating was near 1000

[@abstract2694]

dude you mistook him.. this nikhil kamath is not even fide rated.. the you are talking about is nikhil kamat .. different player