God of War Ragnarök - RTX 4090 VS RX 7900XTX - IMPRESSIVE

[@ASDASDDSASASDA]

In Poland, a new 7900 xtx is twice as cheap as a used 4090. New ones can be 3x more expensive. It's hard to believe. It's sad that AMD is giving up on high-performance GPUs in the next generation.

[@MacTavish9619]

Bro, really? RX 8800xt will be amazing with rtx 4080 performance while being nearly 2x cheaper. Its enough for one gen break from high end. RX9000 will have high end. Also RX8000 gpus will get fsr4.

[@someperson1829]

@@MacTavish9619 What do you mean 4080 performance bro? 4080 is on par with 7900XTX across the games. Why not say that it will be on par with the current AMD best card instead?

[@GameslordXY]

​@@someperson1829 I guess it's possible that it shall be pretty much qual to 4080 on all fronts and that includes Raytracing and Pathtracing where 4080 usually if not always absolutely crushes 7900XTX. Highly unlikely , but possible.

[@adlibconstitution1609]

@@MacTavish9619 But a 5080 will beat a rx 8800xt. So he is right AMD has no answer for the 5080 and 5090

[@bellbell1239]

Wow bro

[@H786...]

you are the kid who had the xbox 360 and the PS3

[@TerraWare]

I was more of a 360 person but yeah eventually did get a PS3 too lol.

[@dalheplay]

This is a proof of a true optimized game 👌 very nice performance on both

[@TerraWare]

Indeed

[@TerraWare]

I was going to do a video checking out the RX 7900XTX and figured may as well make it a VS video out of curiosity.

[@SoulSignalExperience]

What psu u have, atx 3.0?

[@TerraWare]

@@SoulSignalExperience Am currently using an EVGA 1000GT

[@quintrapnell3605]

Frame gen is worth using in single player games for lower temps. Just need to cap the fps to 4K 120Hz. No reason to cook your silicon and make the Air-conditioner come on but that's just my opinion as an avid AFMF2 enjoyer.

[@TerraWare]

@@quintrapnell3605 I've just been using DLSS Quality at 4K with 120hz vsync on the OLED TV. GPU pulls around 260 watts CPU 60, total system power is around 350ish

[@MrNelahem]

i'm glad to see this game uses FSR 3.1

[@TerraWare]

Yes and it's properly implemented unlike Cyberpunk 2077.

[@GameslordXY]

​@@TerraWare Cyberpunk is Nvidia's playground so no wonder. So It could be deliberate. Incompetence ? I guess it could be a little bit of both. .

[@George-um2vc]

@@GameslordXY incompetence.

[@SoulSignalExperience]

I love the rx 7900xtx because it show more deep thept in pic rich color quality, i know radeon use av1 too

[@OmnianMIU]

@@SoulSignalExperience 🤣🤣🤣

[@fallenlegion1828]

What are you talking about here? 😂

[@rng81]

This is some next level crazy :D

[@TheAtomoh]

Intel, Nvidia and 7000 series AMD GPUs all have AV1 support. This is next level copium.

[@joshuapicarello]

@@fallenlegion1828 He's referring to the deeper color contrast compared to the 4090. It is slight, but there is a difference. AMD has always had slightly better image quality, not exactly sure how, but I have noticed it over the years. Might have to do with their pipeline layout, though I'm just speculating at this point.

[@kardeon4503]

Vsync is disable with FG . The solution is to activate Vsync on drivers level. Then the game is super smooth with FG.

[@eriuz]

vsync didnt add more input lag ?

[@zhazhahou]

⁠@@eriuz it could reduce the lag instead

[@Genti2Fast]

Your benchs are very professional. You should be having more subs

[@TerraWare]

Hopefully in due time. Thank you.

[@SaintMichel.]

very good video ! i hope they will fix frame gen nvidia

[@TerraWare]

Yeah me too

[@Chasm9]

It works fine on my 4090, tho 🤷‍♂

[@GameslordXY]

​@@Chasm9 Does it? Seen other benchmarker who was livestreaming benchmarking 4090 with this game and nothing happened. His name is Santiago Santiago . He even tests it at 8K.

[@armandocano]

9:45 did the 4090 DLSS shimer worse than 790XTX FSR?

[@syncmonism]

I don't know, but unless you're getting CPU bottlenecked, or unless the frame-rate is super high even with no upscaling, you should pretty much always turn upscaling on when running at 4k.

[@TerraWare]

Hard to say, they both shimmer when moving the camera. FSR is a bit blurrier so it probably works to its advantage in this particular case. You can see in the conclusion around 10:50 if you pause and look at the work artistry in the office, DLSS has a bit higher detail but FSR does pretty well too.

[@OmnianMIU]

No, it's more detailed on DLSS, while on FSR frame it's all shimmered in the reflaction

[@armandocano]

@@OmnianMIU I had a hard time trying to see any differences, im pretty sure there are, as DLSS is better, but even at 4k 55 inch screeen i only noticed the water shimmering. usually shimering is the easiest difference to note on comparisions, or the rest of details is harder at least or me.

[@armandocano]

@@OmnianMIU do you know DLSS is on the right side? hehe

[@constantinesoldatos]

Uuuuum what?? How did this fly over my head lol, had no idea Ragnarok was coming to pc XD. I'm a huge fan of the older games and I liked the storytelling approach on the new one tbh, hope Ragnarok is fun as well cause I'm getting this puppy. Fsr does look amazing here btw, CDPR take notes smh. Thanks for showing us man, looking good!!

[@TerraWare]

It's pretty good although I felt the story could've been better in the sequel the gameplay does expand, so do the many areas you visit and maybe you'll like the story more than I. I

[@constantinesoldatos]

@@TerraWare Yea I heard that the story is kinda mediocre at best which really sucks... Just finished installing it and if it's as bad as they say I'll just refund it after a couple hours. Steam ftw lol. I'll be honest though I wasn't THAT impressed by the first one either in terms of storytelling. Had some really annoying moments (looking at you Atreus) but I just found the new take refreshing. I don't expect much from games such as these, just a chill time with great visuals and acceptable storytelling and plenty of hot chocolate on the side to enjoy them with. You know, a cinematic experience. If I want deep lore and combat there are games which are way more proficient at offering both at the same time but you know, gotta have myself some cinematic chill from time to time :P Hopefully I won't have to refund it

[@SeekerOfTux]

Great performance on both, though from looking at the frame time graph, I saw that the 4090 seems to have a rather large frame time spike.

[@hocine9664]

hi my friend!!very complet video good one thanks we know every things in eatch option !!i have 7900xtx sure i will ebjoy the game !!is it CPu heavy game or will work good in my 5800x3d ?have great weekend and always glad for u

[@TerraWare]

5800X 3D should be good for 120+ fps no problem.

[@hocine9664]

@@TerraWare thanks my friends for information

[@ascendance907]

Price difference is insanely huge. I am about to buy RX 7900 Xtx for a €850 eur, its even cheaper than any 4080 and doing quite simmilar if not better

[@GameslordXY]

Not in Raytracing if that's your thing.

[@ascendance907]

@@GameslordXY its not

[@arenzricodexd4409]

​@@GameslordXYsoon there will be no option to turn it off.

[@shingod700]

What a beautifull game, this is how you make a truly great game.

[@Chasm9]

DLSS frame gen works fine on my end. Not sure if it's a widespread issue as you hinted, then. Also, have you had a chance to try the HDR in this game?? It's absolutely fantastic!! Supports HDR system level calibration, has NO black level raise, and supports wide color gamut BT2020. It's otherworldly

[@TerraWare]

DLSS FG not working is pretty wide spread. Made a short about it and lots of comments people saying the same, my buddy over at Mostly Positive Reviews couldnt get it to work in his review on a 4070 Super either. I did test HDR and mentioned it in my previous video. Im not fit to test HDR with tools but I said it looked fantastic so am not surprised.

[@Codex.crack3]

7900xtx vs 4080super 🎉

[@TerraWare]

Don't have one unfortunately but 4080 Super is around 20% weaker than 4090 so should be pretty close to the XTX in practice.

[@urkot79]

@@TerraWare And they are the same price.

[@quintrapnell3605]

Maybe check out the memory junction temperature with HWinfo or GPU-Z when the XTX is at 100% utilization. That's where it throttles.

[@Ivan80054]

It would be great to compare 7900 XTX vs 4080 S.

[@urkot79]

4080s is slightly better for the same price

[@Ivan80054]

@@urkot79 Still would like to see comparsion. I am not someone who cares a lot about ray tracing, just to see comparsion of raw power of both cards.

[@qwerty-dm8gr]

$1000 extra dollars for less than 20fps lmao

[@jonathaningram8157]

you should better calibrate your frametime graph. We can see the frametime fluctuating quite a lot but it barely shows on your graph.

[@lawnmanGman]

fyi: the game does not use rt, it uses planar reflections, duplicating the geom below the water with diffuse, compared to rt reflections of the same calibre its about 8x faster

[@coolvinay]

4090 consumes almost 75 watts less for 25% more performance. No wonder AMD does not want to compete with 5090. It will need 200 watts more power making it a 700 to 800 watt card and would still lose in RT, CUDA, Upscaling quality etc. I also feel like the the CPU is a bit of a bottleneck when DLSS is enabled.

[@Marshmallow-ht8me]

Really sucks that AMD isn’t making high end cards anymore. Not saying it would compete with the 5090 but it would’ve been the best price to performance card like the 7900xtx is.

[@MrNelahem]

Change that from anymore to the next Generation. We will see RDNA 5 which will have a highend gpu.

[@TerraWare]

Agreed. Wish they'd compete in the high end next gen but they could still make good improvements with RDNA 4

[@GameslordXY]

Their best will still probably beat 4090 without problems in raster. And if priced right with massively improved RT & PT performance it could be quite popular among well informed enthusiasts and semienthusiast with relatily limited budgets. I doubt 4090s will drop in price significantly when 5000 series is finaly unleashed.

[@ricarnuninho80]

Please do not overclock your RTX 4090. Because if your RTX 4090 with OC version is 2565 MHz core as stock (means +0 MHz), this would get real boost typically 2760 or 2775MHz. While my RTX 4090 non-OC version is 2520 MHz core (means +0 MHz) and gets real boost typically 2715 or 2730 MHz. 😉

[@i3l4ckskillzz79]

@@ricarnuninho80 but his 4090 runs fine at 2940mhz so why Not ?

[@ricarnuninho80]

@@i3l4ckskillzz79 Ok but I don't deserve any guy wants to do overclock GPU. But if you stay to do permanently OC GPU, your GPU can't get *many* years.

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

It depends on the card and temps. My 4090 will boost to 2955mhz and during the winter it will boost to 3050mhz. This is w/ power limits at 90% no undervolt or OC.

[@TerraWare]

It doesn't make much of a difference anyway OC or no OC its around 5 to 10% advantage at best. The 7900XTX can see some nice gains up to 15% I have found in some cases.

[@ishiddddd4783]

nvidia and amd work diferently when it comes to clocks, you need to measure power draw and utilization to get an estimate if the gpu is matching full utilization, it's weird, but its why you can get the 4090 sometimes be below 300W while still boosting at maximum clocks.

[@Pandemonium088]

DLSS3 works for this game, you just need to reboot it.

[@simon89oi]

Why didn't you compare the qualities of the upscaling ?

[@TerraWare]

Maybe I should've but based of what I have seen and can see in this video if you pause DLSS reconstructs the fine detail a bit better but FSR looks great too. Better than in other games imo.

[@zhazhahou]

Hope AMD could release fsr4 earlier

[@urkot79]

7900XTX = 4080S, not 4090!!!

[@bellbell1239]

Bro this is your life?

[@bamboostick5]

In the fsr 3 frame generation benchmarks rhe 4090 is cpu bottlenecked

[@cruxiaercreations8578]

holy crap that power efficiency on the 7900XTX is crazy! 460W @ 88 FPS vs 400W @ 108 FPS. 5.2W/fps vs 3.7W/fps. That's a whopping 40% more power efficient!!

[@robinrufino8244]

He said is overclocked....

[@TerraWare]

It's overclocked, that ads about 50 to 60 watts

[@cruxiaercreations8578]

@@TerraWare both cards are overclocked, yes? Then the power efficiency comparison I made stands. Overclocked, the 4090 is 40% more power efficient than the 7900 XTX.

[@vizknight1862]

7900xtx FTW !!!

[@MellowFriese]

I look at the Watts of both cards an start to cry when i see the AMD 7900 XTX number.. its aroun 60-100 Watts more. That is so bad. I would buy a 4070 Ti Super or a 4080 instead of the 4090. With that poor power management, never AMD.

[@TerraWare]

I do have both cards manually overclocked, which the RX 7000 high end can consume a bit more power but yeah the RTX 4000 is quite power efficient.

[@GameslordXY]

Oh common dude. Your bills won't be massively higher.

[@UbanGerd]

@@GameslordXY they will be in some places, not massively but enough to care

[@wayne0320]

People buy amd??

[@someone-wi4xl]

@@wayne0320 yes because many don’t want to soend extra 1000$ so FPS goes from 90 -> 110 We have brains

[@EPICGNASH3R]

4090 ❤

[@neoaliens8635]

Not only does RTX 4090 provides much higher framerate than RX 7900 XTX, but it also consumes less power and it runs cooler. Just brutal. RIP AMD🎉

[@OmnianMIU]

LoL 7900xtx getting destroyed here, a lot of less fps while power consumption is 12%/30% then 4090

[@nimaarg3066]

Lol! You fanboys grasp at straws just to make your point. Pathetic.

[@BlenderTogether]

of course the 4090 is better, but it is also much more expensive.

[@MacTavish9619]

Imagine spending 2x more for 4090 to get 20% more fps xD Also xtx from this video is weird af. Even 7900xtx sapphire nitro + wont use more than 408-420W and his is using even 480W HOW. This is impossible.

[@MrNelahem]

@@MacTavish9619 This is what people ignore. I would literally have to spend $1000 more for a 4090 for an extra 20% that is not a good value for money. My XFX magnetic air 7900xtx uses about 390 watts.

[@OmnianMIU]

@MacTavish9619 imagine spending 1k$ and get FStRash, sh1t performance in RT, crap performance in workload and tons of driver issues. Please