God of War Theory: Odin kills Kratos before Ragnarok

[@KaptainKuba]

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[@reesmillstead806]

Thats a very good theory my mate. If anyone was to take down the ghost of sparta then Odin would be the obvious choice...but what if its not Odin or Kratos riding the horse weilding the axe but little Loki. We do have images of Kratos dieing and his son holding him..Loki gave birth to the six legged horse that odin rides but..no where does it say that loki never rode his son into battle...maybe seeking vengance for kratos against Odin? I like where your head is at though..Im watching a lot of your viseos and may i say...very interesting. Good work.

[@sizserb2270]

Kaptain Kuba surtr is still alive waiting for ragnrok

[@godposeidon7051]

Kaptain Kuba but helheim have a sword not a comat axe

[@dzzenok4136]

i think its more likely that it is kratos riding the horse since in the mythology the horse is a child of loki and i think i got that right loki is actually atreus

[@hectarealtamira3199]

How was Jörmungandr Born Then? How Was Yggdrasil Formed?

[@tooeasy1100]

Mimir said to Kratos "Prophecy didn't count on you, brother.". So everything depicted could be wrong, since this is a prophecy to Ragnarok without Kratos.

[@Smellmyduty]

To Easy yea but at the end the Prophecy did have him in it with atreaus

[@chuckmcgee147]

Kratos is in the prophecy it's on the wall in Joutenheim Odin just doesn't know because he can't travel there

[@dirtyfighters7751]

Well Kratos could avoid his fate. Remember the Sisters of Fate?

[@weaver3636]

@@dirtyfighters7751 Can't wait to see how will they depict the Nornir sisters in the upcoming game.

[@dirtyfighters7751]

@@weaver3636 Me too.

[@1ksubscriberswithoutvideoc157]

When you realise Kratos is Ragnarok.

[@GameHackerPVZ]

Can't imagine a game without kratos, unless Atreus puts on his tattoos

[@KaptainKuba]

we gotta trust santa monica with this, I really think they're building atrues to slowly take the protagonist position

[@GameHackerPVZ]

@@KaptainKuba I have a theory on how he dies and goes to Valhalla, where Odin tortures him to the point where he breaks free and goes on a rampage cause he thinks Atrues is in danger, gives scope for new aisir weaponry and all

[@KaptainKuba]

ive thought about it, but it would require a full game to be without atreus by out side and I dont that will happen

[@godspeedazul7216]

And uses his blades

[@calebstephan2083]

@@KaptainKuba if they make atreus the protagonist they'd have to change the title of the series completely. Also if you read the novel for the 2018 game it explains how Kratos survived at the end of gow 3. It states after he released the power of hope he was cursed to walk the earth for eternity so he can't die unless someone can break his curse. Even Baldur states in the final boss fight why Kratos can't die after he activates spartan rage in the final battle so if his gonna die it might be because someone is successful in breaking his curse and I think Freya is gonna be the one to do so

[@therealpiudipai6927]

Phhh kratos died like 6 times in past god of war

[@moistslippers9726]

Yeah but even Kratos can’t escape Helheim.

[@mc_rysiek5277]

And that only made him angry each time.

[@therealpiudipai6927]

Man he killed hades and escaped his place so helheim can't do shit

[@moistslippers9726]

The real piu Dipai, see the Underworld in Greece is a *place*, while the realm of Helheim is just nothing but a cold, impenetrable fog. Getting angry and yelling for Odin won’t do shit lmao.

[@JM-dn2tv]

- MightySpriteKnight - you sure about that? I mean its kratos dude.....

[@jacobbejarano3148]

Fey the wife of kratos. I think her ashes will bring the Giants back to life, and that's how they fight in Ragnarok. She predicted and even marked the way for kratos and Boy.

[@dutchvanderlinde4713]

Jacob Bejarano Imma come back to this comment in 5-6 years

[@muzankibutsuji3949]

So basically they will lead an army of giants like how he led the army of titans?

[@AB-wf2js]

That kinda makes sense, because Faye herself was a giant and her final wish was to spread her ashes on the highest peak or the realm (jotunheim, realm of the giants) so I wouldn't be surprised if she told Kratos and Atreus to do it so they can be revived

[@babyfood9537]

Great theory

[@sreenathasv5771]

That actually makes a little sense

[@calebstephan2083]

Kratos already changed his fate several times. He was meant to die in god of war 1 to 3 but he changed his fate by killing the sisters of fate. Even mimir already stated that he already changed the fate of Ragnarok after he killed Baldur because mimir stated that fimbalwinter was meant to happen after another 150 winters buts Kratos caused it to happened 150 years earlier

[@username.exenotfound2943]

Dont gorget him killing magni

[@therevanchist2888]

Caleb Stephan Finally!! Someone with some sense!

[@omegadeadpool4987]

@@therevanchist2888 The studios won't stick to the original ragnarok just like Marvel. Baldur is killed and Magi and Modi who are supposed to be the survivors don't make it, Baldur who is a god of all god things is a spoiled brat, loki is Kratos's son, Thor who should have been the protector of Mankind and Enemy to all those bad and one who only kill for the sake of good is an abusive parent and Evil murder freak. Odin might as well wont be a nomad of Knowledge but a kill freak himself. They changing the stories means Ragnarok would be changed too

[@MiguelSanchez-tk3hc]

@@omegadeadpool4987 there's many theories on who Arteur is. Some theories say he might be tyr or Loki but one thing is for sure arteur can manipulate lightning something Loki cant do.

[@Mironius]

Kratos manages to survive because prophecy required him to kill Zeus. He couldn't have died.

[@m16dude967]

Odin: *kills Kratos* Kratos: Ight getting the blade of olympus

[@thegamerzoildv2183]

I can imagine it now

[@jetset1123]

Kratos: aight I’m gonna head to Olympus real quick and grab a few things.

[@cristivr]

@@jetset1123 nah, it's in his attic

[@cloroxbleach3936]

@@cristivr not the blade tho

[@jamescabarr2921]

He might also grab the gauntlet as well.

[@CorduroyPilot]

First Zeus trembled upon Kratos, now its Odin. I can only imagine that after he’s done with Asgard he moves on to Egyptian mythology and kills Ra

[@KaptainKuba]

Oh I can't wait for Egyptian mythology

[@yorn2577]

I think kratos would have died before that so maybe loki would kill ra , then to something else like asian gods

[@taron1868]

Like Zeus is the most powerful Greek god and Odin the most powerful Norse god. Is Ra the most powerful Egyptian god ?

[@zrosix2240]

The Amazing Spider-Man ammon-ra. Also Thor is more powerful than Odin.

[@jdandkikisExotics]

if they do kill kratos in the next one they will be wasting so many oportunities and games

[@valerioskr3jth0s18]

I learned reading runes a while ago and the man at the end holding an axe is Odin. It clearly says right next to him "Odin"

[@KaptainKuba]

Thats awesome man, i wish i could reas runes, thanks for your work

[@AliAli-sp1qw]

@@KaptainKuba just use this website www.vikingrune.com/rune-converter/

[@ibrahimimam4838]

*cough* sleppnir *cough*

[@Darkkaartist]

The image in which atreus holding kratos Is a false prophecy written very small at corner of the image in a different language

[@orindlubishta9942]

Odin>Zeus

[@1mladen995]

The bird you were asking about, is probably Freya. We already seen her in bird form right before Baldur shows up for a last fight.

[@KaptainKuba]

well i think freya is seen below in the mural

[@hama-a9019]

Then it must be Zeus 😂 we have seen his in bird form before right? 😂

[@chillociraptor5007]

@@KaptainKuba what if it's artreus shooting her down?

[@youhotty3015]

Mladen Jovanov I was thinking about that as well

[@hellodanknessmyoldfriend6101]

Yeah if you watched the trailer for GOWR, Freya transformed into a bird before fighting Kratos.

[@vlad_47]

Norse mythology cant really challenge the slayer of olympus. Atleast in 1on1 fights. Also odin doesnt need the axe his spear is enough

[@kenjikune2565]

I disagree. The Norse mythologies are generally on a much higher cosmic scale than much of the mythos surrounding the Olympians, at least in the God of War series. That being said, the Norse Gods are still fucked. You don't mess with Kratos. Just don't.

[@lordvergil4526]

In the gow so far games the olympians have shown to have way more raw power than Norse gods a good example is Magni Norse god of strength he looked cool but was a let down to fight and didn't seem like he even stood small chance meanwhile his olympian counter part Hercules fought a younger stronger and more angry kratos and could have won had he not boasted (look at how he trembles) but I do suspect the Norse gods are gonna get to show off more of there power in the next game

[@papaoso8340]

Lord Vergil Magni lifted a Stone giant when he was a child That is something heavier than anything Heracles had lifted Also Thor is gonna send the world serpent to the past with a hit which is a demonstration of power. There isn’t gods in Greek mythology capable of doing that. There are also stories about Thor killing high numbers of giants at the same time. So basically he could have ended the war between Greek gods and titans in a day. I just can think about GoW 3 and how the gods were struggling to kill every titans and how Thor basically one shot giants with his hammer. Norse gods are truly ok another level

[@vlad_47]

@@papaoso8340 that, is where you are wrong pal. Titans >>>>> Giants. Blade of olympus >> Blades of chaos >>>> mjolnir = axe. Heracles just like kratos is stronger than atlas and has taken his torment from him for a while

[@vlad_47]

Thor is at best Poseidon titan war level cus norse mythology nowhere near the powerlvl of greek myth

[@2005zhane]

Though I feel that this franchise could continue with either Kratos or Atreus being the main character after God of War (2018). But if Atreus is truly given that title to be the main character of this recent game, with Kratos truly being dead and gone, it's definitely going to be something to shake the franchise far more than Ragnarok could ever touch upon.

[@windghost2]

Well I actually want Atreus to be the next protagonist of the GOW franchise. I think it would be very informative and amazing to see how he interacts with other mythologies, maybe he learns from them and maybe he's like Tyr traveling to different mythologies and trying to bring peace to their lands before continuing on to do the same to the other mythologies. That would be cool to see.

[@razvanhuihup8332]

atreus is loki,dont forget this!!!

[@2005zhane]

I know this already, from beating the game. Just a thought in regards to how there's the possibility of Kratos dying, and being dead for good. Due to that mural at the end of the game.

[@Ragingknight12]

@@razvanhuihup8332 but he isn't the MCU Loki because the MCU version of Loki is wrong.

[@Lego___]

@@windghost2 I hope not. Kratos has been the face of God Of War for roughly 10 years and that shouldn't change.

[@theprodigalson4003]

I feel like it’s more likely Kratos will Embrace his past and become the monster he once was. Fighting with the Blades of chaos/exile rather than the axe

[@geekymetalhead5112]

But he'll become a monster to protect, not destroy.

[@alphaomega1995]

@@geekymetalhead5112 indeed, for Atreus

[@zharif1632]

The comment i have been waiting for😂😂😂

[@Lego___]

And with the Golden Fleece agai--No wait... I think the Golden Fleece was recycled and repurposed to be the shield.

[@thefreshprincer5587]

@@Lego___ his shield was given to him by his wife on the anniversary of the day they met

[@tonysoldan]

Kratos dies... Kratos: This realm will be a gift to my future granddaughter Hel. Dead ogre soul: But- Kratos: Do you have an objection, foul beast? Dead ogre soul: Nope, enjoy renovating this realm with your fists and blades, sir.

[@DarthWrecker]

How will the franchise continue if he is dead though? He is the literal god of war in his universe.

[@KaptainKuba]

We dont know bro, still I have another theory that daves Kratos from death lol

[@voodooking9254]

Atreus becomes the better kratos

[@Solidb3lake]

@@voodooking9254 no way

[@anthonyroyforbes]

Well in norse mythology like half of the gods are gods of war sooo...

[@DarthWrecker]

@@anthonyroyforbes Lol didnt even know 🤣. I feel like the only problem is that even though the new god of war is based around the norse mythology, the main story so far is not.

[@MEHDIGAMINGJustGaming]

if kratos dies there is no more god of war games

[@TheYamatai]

No shit sherlock

[@hectorvergara3394]

He died in the first game though lol doesn’t mean he can’t die and maybe be brought back to life by Atreus in the following game? I’m calling it that’s my theory! Lmao

[@TheGreatHotDogConsumer]

Maybe he dies and we play as Atreus trying to get him out of Helheim?

[@TheGreatHotDogConsumer]

Mr Damnation to be fair he had weapons. What if he was chained/imprisoned, and Atreus had to break him free? I’d personally like doing that.

[@logan6034]

Hector Vergara LMFAOOOOOOLoLoLoLoLoL!!

[@pac-vy1nj]

The giants resurrect from fays ashes

[@masterfurious2736]

Your god of war videos are literally the best on KZbin and u r super underrated for what u bring to the table...really looking forward to your next god of war video

[@Vortexnicholas]

i really like this theory, as it would really make sense for the Atreus turning into loki story line/ character ark. an all out final war btw the giants and the aesir gods. Odin killing kratos forces atreus to really take on the loki persona and is fueled with vengeance. but i think it;ll be thor to kill kratos instead of odin( b/c a possible boss battle was teased btw kratos and thor at the end of GOW 4 ). but anything is possible.

[@zombieluke115]

End of God of War 5 Kratos and Thor fight, both beat each other near death but eventually Kratos kills Thor, then weakened from his fight with Thor, Odin arrives and kills Kratos. Of course Atreus would see this and attack Odin with all the might he has, to no success. Odin would then knock out Atreus, and seeing how he lost his 2 sons and seeing Atreus's warrior spirit he would Ignorantly Adopt Atreus, not knowing the true power that lies dormant in him and one goal of killing the man that killed his father. (Just how I would like it to play out.)

[@vlad_47]

I like the kid but he shouldnt/cant take the spotlight from kratos. Kratos = God of War

[@zombieluke115]

@@vlad_47 I think he could, remember Alfheim we know he perfectly capable of using the Leviathan Axe, but i do get it The boy will never be as great as the God Of War

[@vlad_47]

@@zombieluke115 so he can use the axe so what? You said it yourself he isnt kratos

[@Nsands81]

Or kratos end up being worthy to weild mjolnir

[@username.exenotfound2943]

@@Nsands81 no need to be worthy judt realy strong so kratos can lift it

[@ZeroStako]

Kaptain! I was looking for you on Reddit or somewhere else. I have an interesting theory to share with you: Fenrir must exist during the game's events. We've heard Mimir mention Hrodvitnir - the Arch Wolf, as being the father of Skoll and Hati. But Hrodvitnir is just another name for Fenrir. Mimir confirms that during the game, Skoll and Hati already circle the Earth, chasing the Moon and the Sun. Therefore, if Hrodvitnir is Fenrir, then that confirms his existence at this time. Mimir is all-knowing and as such, he still refers to Skoll and Hati's father as Hrodvitnir, which must mean that either he does not know that it is another name for Fenrir or that Odin has deceived him for some reason. Or maybe even that Fenrir has taken up another name/cause after some timey-whimey business? Theory 1: Fenrir exists, which means that somehow he must have gotten sent back through time to have Skoll and Hati, or had already had them and was then sent forward, after Odin was done with him (stealing the then pups Skoll and Hati). Which leads me to another theory. With all of this deceit in play and Atreus' mother being such an excellent bluffer in a game of Celestial Poker, could the naming of Atreus as "Loki" be just a ploy to deceive Odin while the real Loki is bringing Ragnarok to fruition? Theory 2: Atreus was named Loki in order to deceive the Gods. His mother uses him as bait to waste Odin's time, which would also maybe explain why her people seemed unhappy with her towards the end. I hope you manage to see this! I've been keeping it at my side for your next upload's comment section for quite awhile. PS: Thanks for all the awesome content! Feel free to speak about any of my finds, I'd be honored.

[@KaptainKuba]

Im really interested in your second theory, but I have to ask. Why would the giants be displeased with faye for taking such an interesting aproach?

[@dylana.9057]

Stanislav Serbezov So how does Atreus control The serpent at the end ?? Only Loki can summon the serpent like Atreus did against the revived giant

[@ZeroStako]

​@@KaptainKuba Because she is effectively disrespecting the real Loki - someone who they look up to, because he is trying to stop Odin. They see her plan as effective treason, even possibly undermining the real Loki and his actions, but she decides to go with it, causing them to turn on her and revoke her Club Giant license.

[@ZeroStako]

@@dylana.9057 That's never stated directly to my knowledge. The real Loki might have appreciated Faye's plan and implanted a thought of Atreus in the mind of Jormungandr in order to help her with her plan. As a trickster, he is likely to see opportunity where it presents itself. This is a good opportunity for him to get an upper hand on everything, whatever the cost, as long as it leads to the downfall of Odin.

[@ZeroStako]

@@KaptainKuba Btw, another thing I noticed that has not been brought up is, that after Ragnarok, it is said that only two will remain - one man and one woman. This means that after Ragnarok in this new series of GoW games, it will either be another Sequel/Reboot with Kratos being a survivor and then moving on to another mythology, or Atreus will be the survivor and it will be a full-on reboot with no looking back, in my opinion. But even if speculating on that, a huge question remains: what woman will survive along with them? Because there must be two! Or they can simply overlook that and... you know, not follow the mythology that close.

[@marion_roberts]

I hate to say this but in one way or another, Kratos' narrative is at an end. His character development,you see, has already come full circle,and there's really no other way to go beyond that without cheapening his colorful life. His story is done, Atreus is next in line for the G.O.W. series, I just hope the devs give him a good ending.

[@elvd1296]

Do you still agree with your statement

[@zyhxi1812]

In previous God of Wars in the beginning there was a boss that beat the shit out of Kratos which lead to lose Kratos' weapons ( to start from the beginning, regaining power) so in the next one they might do the same (when Kratos got blades back there was fight before and after known in previous God of Wars so it can be possible) anyway they have to do something to lose Kratos' powers and abilities that he owns in the end of GoW 4 because its a continuation. I think Kratos will face Thor and Thor will steal his weapons( probably only leviathan axe because blades are somehow attached to Kratos that he cant get rid of them but who knows). Also the beginning of the game can be discovering Atreus' ability to turn into animals because on the mural in the end of gow 4 he's walking with two wolves and right to that(happening next) is most likely Kratos death so he could even die on battle with Thor and then with help of the valkyries, because he saved them, return to Midgard alive. In my eyes it makes sense but who knows what Cory will come up with.

[@KaptainKuba]

I really like your theory, i might include it in a community theories video im working on

[@vlad_47]

And what boss was that? The only one who can say something like that is the colossus but it was kratos fault cus he stupidly downleveled himself the colossus only gave zeus the chance to grab the blade thats all. In gow3 zeus did that but he wasnt boss tho 😅

[@Smellmyduty]

You do know Cory didn’t make up the story he’s just the director

[@KaptainKuba]

he's actually one of the writers

[@zyhxi1812]

@@KaptainKuba Would be cool :)

[@magnet8185]

I want Adult Atreus to look like Diemos.

[@jaideepdeol747]

Omg what an idea !❤️👍

[@danishlatif9468]

I can be calm knowing that end of GOW 3 Kratos with the blade of olympus and all his weapons would wipe the floor with Odin.

[@peaceandtranquility7399]

We'll see

[@mexicanhotsauce9981]

Cap don’t underestimate Odin, you only know what Kratos is possible of but Odin is a whole another god compared to Zeus. Odin overpowers Greek mythology

[@rastazorastra1772]

I've been saying this for awhile now on your comments of the videos. Odin will kill Kratos. It's pretty simple and there is influence of Old Norse mythology here. Much like how Baldur was still killed with a mistletoe arrow by Loki directly instead of indirectly via a blind man. Baldur at the beginning of the game was searching the lands for "The Giant" to slay. He didn't realize that the giant was Kratos until he found him. Kratos = Atreus father. Odin in Mythology kills the giant that is Loki's father. From the guilt of this, he takes Loki in as an orphan child. Never adopted. Still treated like shit. I can see Krato's death being the fire that fuels Loki's vengeance to truly bring on Ragnarok. Baldur was the symbolically start of Ragnarok in this game instead of the actual start of it.

[@willofthewisps1049]

...drawing from Marvel's Thor I see. Loki was never Odin's adopted child in actual Norse Mythology. In fact, Loki is actually a brother of sorts to Odin, thus, an adoptive uncle of Thor.

[@vishnooi2039]

Kratos is not a giant thou, it was Atreus and his mother (Faye) who are giants. Baldur was sent for the last giant but it wasn't Kratos, Baldur was there for Faye. That's why Baldur says "I thought you'd be much bigger" when he sees Kratos. Baldur and Odin didn't know who the last giant was but just knew that one last giant existed. Baldur thinks that Kratos is that gaint but it's at the end of the game it's revealed to us that Faye was a gaint, which was baldurs target and he was there to kill her and had nothing to do with Kratos.

[@rastazorastra1772]

@@vishnooi2039 Faye cast a spell on Kratos and Atreus to make sure their whereabouts were unknown to the realm up until her death. Her death took the spell off. Hence why Baldur was able to feel his presence now. Everyone in the realm already knew Faye was a giant. She was the last remaining Giant according to their knowledge. But the presence they felt of another was that of Atreus but they mistaken it for Kratos. And no in Norse mythology Loki's father is Fárbauti. He's a Jotunn husband to Laufey. Jotunn = Frost Giant... Frost what? .. Giant.

[@Ragingknight12]

@@rastazorastra1772 yeah, but they aren't going by Norse mythology by how it actually went. They are making their own version of it, just how Marvel made their own version where the Norse gods aren't gods but aliens with long life spans.

[@callmedawg001]

You think kratos will stay dead lmao he died 3 times and still came back i don't think he'll let his son be with Odin,I mean he can come back to life he wants and control the time as he wants to I think,it wouldn't be easy to kill kratos because he can literally come back to life and in the new trailers tyr is there maybe he knows more about Odin and how to kill him

[@dee_zzy]

05:18 the transition from a deranged traumatized mother swearing to avenge her son's death to a cheery voice in a different reality really got me 😂

[@rohanriyait]

0:25 - 0:50 this should be the gow 5 intro

[@bruhmoment5916]

Sounds like the gow3 intro 👌

[@FreyR_Kunn]

I think the bird getting shot is a reference to the story of Shadi, the tale is that Shadi was the daughter of a Powerful Man that can turn into any animal, you see in shadi’s tale The Aesir Gods told Shadi to shoot a random Eagle but when she killed the Eagle she found out the Eagle was actually her Father.At the end of the tale Shadi keeps her father’s bow

[@Oliver_1983]

You mean Skadi, I think. She was a Jotun but lift in Asgard. The story it self is pretty much like you sad.

[@FreyR_Kunn]

Oliver 83 yeah her, she is basically The Nordic version of Artemis

[@Oliver_1983]

@@FreyR_Kunn She is the Goddess of hunt.

[@dirtyfighters7751]

Well, Kratos could avoid his fate on the wall. Remember the Sisters of Fate? Kratos managed to avoid his fate then. Edit: If they kill off Kratos, than I'm never going to play a God of War game again.

[@masterfurious2736]

Hes not gonna die

[@issachehade6211]

All of us agree

[@blessedxxiii5583]

Dirty Fighters It should've been impossible to defeat the sisters of fate, but Kratos outsmarted them

[@dirtyfighters7751]

Stargazing XXIII I know.

[@dirtyfighters7751]

@Borderguy342 I know everything has/needs an ending. But my point here, is if Kratos dies, is Atreus going to continue the God of War Series? Like Uncharted? Heck if Kratos dies than he can easily come back.

[@djelektrik6910]

i love thate whenever you mention freyr's sword you sound so extatic about it, we really need that weapon in ragnarok

[@yusufay1510]

I think the bird is the Resurrection form of Zeus. I wish with all of my heart, odin is a necromancer. Think it;Ares, Zeus, posedion and hades are return and we have to fight them again 😉

[@KaptainKuba]

Hahaha someone else made this comment already, and i never thought about it. I dont.think theres a bird like creature that fights for the aseir, the next big chatacter who would fight against kratos in bird form would be his previous nemesis, zeus.....

[@yusufay1510]

@@KaptainKuba oh sorry, I didn't know somebody Wrote the same thing

[@KaptainKuba]

@@yusufay1510 no its cool dude, i was just pointing out that 2 people had the same awesome idea

[@issachehade6211]

Yusuf Ay daaaaaamn

[@issachehade6211]

If this happens i am going to explode of happiness and excitement daaaaamn

[@sleepingmonster1632]

Egyptian, Celtic, Shinto and other gods: Fuck you Tyr! Now Kratos knows we exist.

[@martingeorgiev4394]

This is a good video, the hype for a Norse God of War sequel is truly killing everyone. However, there are few things you should know first and be corrected: 1-There are other deities besides Thor, Odin, Freya/Frigg, Heimdall and Freyr that could be used as bosses, villains, allies or at least neutral NPCs in the future. There are Njord (god of seas and winds, who is mentioned by Mimir on the way to Thamur's corpse), Vidarr (god of revenge and footwear), Ullr (god of hunting and archery), Bragi (god of arts and music), Hermod (messenger of the gods), Sif (wife of Thor) and Idunn (goddess of the golden apples which give immortality, they appear in the game as items in the puzzle treasure chests that increase your health capacity). There are also non-god characters like Surtur (the fire giant while an ally to Kratos, could challenge him to a sparring contest as a boss fight to test his strength), Skadi (Jotnar/giant goddess of the winter and skiing, who appears as a mural in the game), Fenrir (the giant wolf, brother of Jormungandr and son of Loki), Hel (goddess of the underworld, the daughter of Loki which is the sister to both Jormungandr and Fenrir), Angrboda (Jotnar/giant who is the wife of Loki and the mother of his children, she appears as a mural in the game), Ratatoskr (the squirrel appears as an optional sidequest and a runic summon in the game, however he should have a bigger role in the future) and Nidhoggr (the dragon who eats Yggdrasil). 2-There's a problem with Forseti here. According to the official novelization of the game Freya's curse also made Baldur sterile so he can't have a child unlike his original mythological counterpart. The only way Forseti can appear in the GoW series is if he's instead made into a son of Odin, which is logical since the games already take some artistic license and inaccuracies to the source material (granted I am not complaining and I still love this epic franchise). 3-The boar is actually Hildisvini, not Gullinbursti. Freyr however is trapped as a prisoner of war either in Asgard or Vanaheim, which are both currently locked by Odin. Worth knowing is that Svartalheim is also locked and will probably play a role in the story. 4-Heimdall is already officially confirmed. After you kill the dragon Hraezlyr, Sindri mentions him when he gives you the mistletoe arrows. 5-The sequels must decrease the runic cooldown time and instead introduce a blue mana meter (along with blue crystals to refill it), like the old Greek games. 6-While I like Atreus/Loki, I don't want Kratos to die for keeps and to be replaced as the protagonist. Howeve, I want Atreus/Loki to be a teenager in the sequel (and an adult in the third/final game), with the player being able with a push of a button to switch between him and Kratos to have playable whenever we want. Also, we should be able to play as Jormungandr and Fenrir during certain sections (especially in a bossfight against Nidhoggr and Odin respectfully) by having Kratos and Atreus ride them. I don't know if this is possible with the current engine they have made and used, however it would be epic to control Loki's children to kill the other Norse deities and monsters. 7-Would be great if we could see how Faye/Laufey and Tyr look like, either via time travel or in flashbacks. 8-That's very good that you used Odin from the ''Jotun'' game in the video. Personally I want him to be able to turn into a giant while riding his horse Sleipnir (who also turns giant) and fly in the sky of Asgard while shooting you with his spear Gungnir and use powerful magic spells. He should look like this: i.pinimg.com/originals/30/cd/ef/30cdefe0be2e2355512cef5b89304afe.jpg, however he should wear an eyepatch, and all his clothes (including his helmet and the ornament wings on it) should be colored black, due to being a death god. Please note that Odin is powerful due to being the god of many things- war, rage, death, magic, weather, poetry, writing and knowledge. Thats's all I have to say and congratulate you on creating these videos which are very good.

[@gauravbatra6226]

I know they can't cast Chris Hemsworth as thor for his current stature and price but what if they cast MCU odin. That would be a nice touch.

[@JonFord]

Great video Kap!

[@darkstar_619]

I hope they dont do this but for an entertaining thought, What if the fight is like you as kratos fighting your hardest, but the game is endlessly in Odin's favor, and it ends with an interactive cutscene with you trying to escape from death(failed blocks, crawling) but to no avail you're brutally murdered by Odin.

[@Chariotrequiemiscoolok]

What bugs me is that all the giants in jotunhiem are Giant, but Atreus says says that they are not all Giant.

[@azu3806]

They should call the 6th game (which I’m guessing it would be last game with kratos but maybe not) they should call it ‘God Of War: Ragnarok’

[@aspen1889]

I think there will only be 3 games this time cuz of how long it takes to make each game but who knows I might be wrong

[@azu3806]

Aspen yeah that’s what I’m saying GoW 1,2,3,4,5,6

[@aspen1889]

@@azu3806 oh sorry I thought you meant like there were gonna be 6 games this version same as last time

[@tomisinolapo2317]

I doubt. I foresee 2 installments after the previous game GoW: Fimbulwinter and the last being GoW: Ragnarok

[@azu3806]

Tomisin Olapo that’s what I mean lol sorry if it sounds weird

[@rannveermalhotra5311]

This bird is freya because in the last boss fight(Baldur) she appears as bird and when they go to giants land mimir tells that freya visited him and she asked him about her valkryie wings. So one more valkryie boss fight

[@Beastboy909]

“Nothing that is written can’t be unwritten” -Kratos

[@gauravbatra6226]

Yes, like kratos will die means kratos will die. It's other thing that he escapes hell but it's ok.

[@Someguythatlikespizza]

Odin can't kill Kratos, Kratos can't even kill Kratos.

[@youhotty3015]

It could be Freya, cause remember when Freya turned into a bird when the world serpent spit out kratos and Atreus

[@logan6034]

It’s not

[@TaiChino]

To kill a monster you must become a monster

[@jureculic9737]

Kratos gonna reschedule the prophecy

[@trism56]

The female with the boar can be freya, as after healing it, you can go back and she tells you its name is Hildisvini

[@Halliskyes]

Great vid, Cuba! Make them Theories comin. Greetings from Norway!

[@chaglabha_x425]

Finally you have upload a video after all of this time

[@Oliver_1983]

Allways give me a hard time with translation, because the sowelu rune was messed up in the game. Okay on the right side with this warriors stand "sinir muspels", what leads me to the thought, those are Fire Gigants. On the left side were Freya is it says On the top stands "Groa spar rokks ragna" In the middle on the right of the witch: "Sekir Eiginmann, Finn Ragnarokk" And at the bottem "Dauthr ok Endrburthr rika" I have no clue what that means. English - Islandic translation programm does not help me.

[@tomasroberts3481]

Oliver 83 sinir muspels means sons of fire

[@tomasroberts3481]

Oliver 83 and these words are 700 years old I only understand half of them

[@mattb2540]

Love this video! I subscribed!

[@Tayejay08]

What if the mothers ashes have some kind of magical resurrection to them and brings the giants back to life

[@mcmoviemaster]

Or could be a sign to come out and they are just hiding

[@mannygarcia963]

If you notice in the first god of war, when you reach Pandora’s box, there’s a mural or painting on the floor or wall, forgot, depicting that a warrior was soon to destroy, fight, or challenge Olympus (Zeus) which was indeed true (long time since I played that). So I’m pretty sure Santa Monica is going to stick by the murals.

[@simphiwedlamini.]

Hhaa Kratos Phakathi..... Will you also paint your head red after shaving 😂

[@KaptainKuba]

hahaahah i might lol

[@issachehade6211]

This theory could work without kratos being like normal ragnarok but the plot twist is that odin could not see in the book that he stole because the interference of kratos in midgard so odin is furious and sent baldur to investigate and after what happened in gow thor come to have revenge but he must return kratos alive for odin for some creepy stuff

[@PRSOne]

(4:13) You said the giant bird in Helheim "helped us get out of the cold." - When did this happen?

[@KaptainKuba]

When your on the ship look occasionally back and you'll see him flapping his wings to give youre sales some air

[@polomarco6393]

That’s tyr(kratos) in the thumbnail riding Loki’s child , the 8 legged horse , that could run so fast it could fly

[@RaymaxGaming]

Hey kaptain kuba you know that at the end of the game you see a dead Kratos in the hands of atreus well if you look a little bit above it there are runes if you can translate those runes maybe it will tell us something

[@KaptainKuba]

I think jon.ford.made a video like that. The rune's say traitor i.think

[@Recedinhairline442]

Love your videos man🥰

[@ctjennings1493]

You think Kratos could possibly replace Sutr ?? Just my own little opinion, love the video

[@burthdgaming]

Now that I think about it. mimir did say that , by kratos killing thors sons and baldur he made ragnarok come sooner and messed with the cycle or something rather. So kratos probably wasn’t supposed too die but will prevent it in the next game.

[@jakobchristiansson]

In the mythology Sleipnir is Loki's child, just as the world serpent. So it could very well be Kratos on that magic horse!

[@KaptainKuba]

true but this would mean kratos is going to lead the aseir into battle as their leader

[@jakobchristiansson]

@@KaptainKuba yeah :p plus Loki only fathers Sleipnir because Odin orders him to distract another magic horse.. And I don't picture Atreus taking orders from Odin any time soon

[@MK-jz6gm]

Panjake I think loki is the mother figure there. I am serious

[@jakobchristiansson]

@@MK-jz6gm Yeah you're right. Loki turns into a female horse to distract Svaðilfari so as to slow down the giants work on Asgards walls. My bad :)

[@haidermajid5352]

It’s sad I can’t accept loosing Kratos.

[@dimitrispanagiotou9776]

Hahahahahah Odin will kill Kratos? Hahahahaha many stronger gods tried and they failed...

[@DCapybara]

We don't know how powerful Odin and Thor is, so don't assume

[@sadikunal9385]

Deciduous Capybara but Thor is stronger than Odin , if somebodys gonna kill Kratos its Thor

[@DCapybara]

@@sadikunal9385 In the myth, yes. But we can't say for sure here.

[@themilkman9412]

Sadik Ünal Thor is stronger Odin is wiser

[@dimitrispanagiotou9776]

I personally think Kratos won't die because come on he already died 3 times in the previous ones... But if he actually dies i don't think his death will be from a battle again, i think Atreus is going to kill him after he breaks his curse of being immortal

[@mrwhite4659]

*Odin kills Kratos* Kratos:Blade of Olympus go brrrrrr

[@sweetslimroussos2848]

If Kratos dies God of War dies

[@shadowshine3409]

My only problem with 6:45 is that the man could tyr because tyr could not be dead just captive in some dungeons and come ragnarok Odin kills tyr because Atreus had to choose between tyr or Kratos and Atreus chose his father and that thing around them was jormungander plus the reason why they got there could because Freya gave the duo they secret in Asgard’s defence which she was told by the giants to use come ragnarok and they went to rescue tyr after being told he was still alive by an apparent ally but was actually an aiser(please correct me if I’m wrong with the spelling) in disguise as a way to lure them into a trap after they severely harmed thor

[@TheHangoverer]

"I will reign down every violation imaginable". She's going to shorten the time on the dryer so Kratos' skirt is damp.

[@marvelghost]

You mentioned in another video about Atreus in the novel not being able to hold a bird in his arm but Fey was able to. The same bird that had type a warrior spirit to scare Odins ravens. Maybe this bird in the symbol is "that" bird.

[@KaptainKuba]

Yes, but this bird seems to be on odin's side, to come to the conclusion you just did. You have to give me a theory of fay's bird changing teams

[@marvelghost]

@@KaptainKuba oh it's on Odins side... dang, I thought I had a good theory going

[@eyeofmimir]

The bird could be Loki...

[@rayanal-shaer1910]

4:24 that bird can be freya, (baldur's mother),I know the chances of the bird being her are 13% but, think about it, before the boss fight (baldur), she shows up looking like the exact bird that is showing in that closet (I forgot its name is) thing, and odin might have released the curse of her not able to hurt anyone so she can fight with him in Ragnarok. Or if u don't think so, it may be another of odins ravens, just so we can know that the guy underneath it is no other than odin

[@shredcoremtb]

"kill kratos" ahahahaha dude the the guy went to hell and back a few times you can't kill ma man kratos

[@thorny8013]

Atreus : Father! See! They're talking something about Ragnarok! Kratos : Hmm? Who's talking about me?

[@CRUSADER-ww5ks]

I swear if they kill off kratos m gonna throw my game out of the window

[@psychwardpussyeater]

Good luck with that bro

[@lifeofsavage4]

Be ready to throw your console out the window bro

[@righteousone8454]

3:35 Kratos: "WHO ARE YOU!?" Thor: "I am a Clint Eastwood, and I brought my 6 shooter"

[@AbdullahShabanAl-Ojaili]

I love you ❤🤗

[@KaptainKuba]

Im glad you liked the video

[@drunkasurus2420]

to note as well, prophecy spoke that fimblewinter wasn't to happen for another hundred winters, but it was because it didn't account for kratos being there that is was wrong

[@sandeepathwal4188]

Great video bro. New sub here. Keep up the amazing work

[@brian-4743]

If they kill kratos someone is getting pulled up on

[@voodooking9254]

In the second god of war kratos dies and is saved by the titans in tarterus. Perhaps something similar will happen where kratos is killed killed but is saved by a group of giant souls in helhyme. While killed by Thor at the start Atreus prepares for revenge while the axe is taken to Oden. When kratos gets back to life (because time works different among the realms) Atreus is full grown with rage and raising the spirits like kratos did the titans.

[@voodooking9254]

Atreus will be storming ragnorok and kratos will not pick sides just slaughtering his way to Atreus to save his son Bonus points if fey aids kratos to save there son but because fey is a giant and likely bent on revenge shell (and sadly) be an obstacle to kratos

[@tylerruddy5444]

Written beside the archers is “sinir muspells” “sinir” is not an old Norse word, but is is very similar to “synir” the plural for “sonr” which means that this text means “muspells sons” or “sons of muspell”

[@TheMegafiremaster]

This is more of a very long though than theory but in all the shrines or whatever they are where they tell the story of god and giants you don't see kratos or Atreus, kratos for good reason because hes not meant to be there but now that he controls his own fate he can go anywhere without the bounds of prophecy which i believe will shake the known fate of the gods and other beings. I think that some parts of the prophecy will stay the same while others change, its said that its loki who leads the giants against the gods on a boat made of fingernails and toenails (might be changed for the game so its not so gross). So this is what im thinking while keeping to the story of Ragnarok head and boy are captured by odin and thor (because loki is meant to be bound by the gods and odin has mimir's head to talk to before the battle with the fire giants). So i dont waste your time ill try and finish up quick, kratos partially dies and gives half of his godly powers to atreaus but its too much so with it he creates big snake(not gonna try and type his name) and thats when thor attacks baby snake and kratos feeling like it his grand son in a weird way trys to step in but is too late snake get hit by thor and both snek and dad of boy goes through time to before kratos came to this land, so in order to save his sons future he dawns the name of tyr to try and stop ragnarok from happening because he is the god of war he may know a way to bring peace to the worlds even tho he knows what happens to tyr. Personally i think it wouldnt be a bad idea and it would be good character development but thats all i can think of which is good so i dont type more, sorry for writing so much, keep up the good work and thanks if anyone actually read the whole thing.

[@gauravbatra6226]

But, it would become an infinite loop and no one would ever know what exactly happens after the snake and kratos get back to the time.

[@ghuxlhexxalot_]

[ spoiler? Kinda.. idk ] I hope there’s a intro prologue on GOD OF WAR 5 ragnarok starts with a normal mission with kratos and grown up atreus ( 17-19 yrs old ) Showing Atreus getting control of his rage, getting better with arrows and slowly getting stronger like his Spartan father. ( you know that one emotional like scene where kratos will be slightly amazed by his taught skills and how Atreus slowly becomes like kratos ( not like his old past but stronger and stuff ) and there will a scene where kratos goes against Thor and beats him. And while kratos is about to kill/knock out Thor.. there comes Odin stabbing kratos in the his back killing him. Furiously Atreus goes against Odin and gets knocked out. And there the story starts. Half of the mission has Atreus and other half as Kratos in Valhalla escaping Odins tortures and beatings. There our story continues. With Atreus becoming stronger, knowing how to use the Axe/Blades of chaos OR maybe we see athenas Ghost guiding Atreus to the blades of exile or Athena ( maybe ) and Atreus’ mind filled with Rage and revenge against Odin and Thor. Slowly becoming a monster like kratos when he didn’t wanted him to.

[@gingersperg]

The animal he's rifling appears to be that which Loki gives spawn to, sleipnir. Since Ragnarok happens 3 years after GoW4, I think this mural represents what happened previously/in a future without Kratos. So since he can't possibly ride that animal in the current timeline, perhaps he also doesn't kill Kratos or even steal the Leviathan Axe.

[@giggity4670]

What i see no were has said what Mímir told Krato. It was after completing the story i was get the last bits left for platinum and Mímir said that while we were in Jotunheim time has passed a lot more than we think and that Freya has gone to find and retrieve her valkyrie wings to seek revenge on killing Baldur. So this must be a hint on that we might be fighting Freya in the next GOW she might even be the one that kills Krato.

[@righteousone8454]

The bird is the eagle that Zeus had as his assistant within a legend of Prometheus That same eagle supposedly was tearing out Prometheus' liver on the daily basis for his transgressions We first see him with Zeus next to him. Perfect correlation. It was not an illusion, it was Zeus speaking to Kratos. Because Gods don't really die that easy.

[@xXLunatikxXlul]

Unless they can find out a way to somehow break Kratos' curse of eternally walking the earth, which might be since it is not really like normal magic or vanir magic. It's more like being damned I think in that sense.

[@alexnelson8135]

This mans like Odin finding out everything about ragnarok

[@stonecoldku4161]

Okay I've got a couple of ideas. 1) I think Thor will be a boss that Kratos will fight and will kill. I don't think they would tease him in the last game and not pay that off in some way. In the original Norse Thor kills the World Serpent, but dies due to being poisoned by the serpent. Remember when we first encounter the Serpent (surrender arms to the water) and he returns the axe it is imbued with his venom. So in a way it would still be the Serpent's venom that killed Thor so it would stay in line with the original myth, but allow us to fight/kill Thor. 2) I think that Kratos will be killed, but he would return and bring the Giants with him to bring on Ragnarok. There is a story that Mimir tells Kratos and Atreus about Odin wanting knowledge so badly that he killed himself, went to Hel to get it. Then to return to the living Odin caused so much destruction and chaos in Hel that the World Tree got fed up and basically spit his soul back to the world of the living. What if Kratos is killed in some way, goes to Hel where he finds the Giants (maybe even Faye) and with them causes so much chaos and destruction there that the World Tree spits them back to the world of the living and the battle of Ragnarok begins. That has me thinking that maybe it is that action of bringing back all of the Giants and Kratos from Hel that splinters the World Tree and messes up the timeline. I mean like what happened with The Serpent and Thor. Their battle was so intense that it sent the Serpent back in time to meet his father (Loki) when he was still a child. It could explain why Odin has already sent the wolves after the sun and moon when they are Loki's grandkids that shouldn't exist yet. Just kind of spit balling here with timelines and branching timelines. (Dammit Avengers Endgame!)

[@miguelgalvez6447]

The axe of kratos having the serpents venom is clever i didn't think of that. Man this next game is going to be something special.

[@lukephillips6339]

Just thought of something, the serpent said that Atreus looked familiar (since later on in the game we find out that Atreus is Loki, father of the serpent), but he doesn’t think Kratos looks familiar. Since the serpent has seen ragnarok and doesn’t find Kratos familiar, Kratos could not been around when Ragnarok comes.

[@KaptainKuba]

I never thought of that, good observation mate

[@lukephillips6339]

Yeh I literally just thought of it while eating dinner and just thought “holy shit wtf, how did I not think that sooner”

[@KaptainKuba]

@@lukephillips6339 you got me thinking about jormungandr now, he also tells kratos " I know the pain of your loss" who did jormungadr lose? His father?

[@beecees410]

Love the theory but no. On the mural at the end you see Faye clearly holding the leviathan axe. Barlog didnt just slap some images on a wall so if Odin were holding the leviathan axe it would look like the axe just like on Faye

[@kratostv9366]

I was thinking the exact same thing... If the theory is true the axes should look identical

[@vixly6187]

Just saying the figure riding the horse with the axe is definitely odin because the runes above him reads "odin" So yeah

[@MaxDridiFit]

Just me or do y'all agree that the bird in the mural is Freya? Cause before the final boss fight between Baldur and Kratos she is disguised as a bird and claims to be looking for Baldur

[@thelibrarian7193]

i think the next game we wont be playing as kratos. the mc might be atreus next. cuz at the ending, kratos did say "this is your story now" so it maybe a hidden clue left by the dev? just a speculation tho. kratos probably exist in the next game, but only as npc i guess, and he died later somewhere in midgame chapter.

[@zrensu]

7:13 Really is a relief there ngl lol

[@brianj7204]

I am expecting something insane for the next game. Santa Monica studios now has a clear path they can work with, and they dont have to reinvent the God of War franchise altogether. Although expectations are off the charts since GOW(2018) reviews were almost all perfect scores. I wanna know if they can pull off Ragnarok.

[@christianbolze7092]

The bird is Thiazi, father of the goddess Skadi. He was able to capture the goddess Idunn, who in turn was the protector of the apples, that give the gods immortality. Loki, who was more or less responsible for Idunns capture, got help from Freya, who lend him her coat, which in turn could transform him into a bird/falcon. He found Idunn alone, transformed her into a nut and carried her away, back to Asgard. Thiazi followed him by transforming himself into an eagle (he was famous for that) and almost catched them, but the gods saw them and started a fire on the walls of Asgard, which burned Thiazis feathers and he fell to his death. His daughter Skadi then came to Asgard and wanted to have "Wergeld", which is akin to substitution for a loss or great grievance. She wanted to marry Baldr, who was the most beautiful god and the Aesir allowed her to search for a husband, but she could only look at this feet and had to choose him from that. Overall, she choose Njord, the god of the sea and father of Freya and Freyr. She did not like him that much and they lived apart. Skadis mythological importance and her details vary with the sources. What i wrote her is from the Skáldskaparmál. In the God of War adaptation of this myth, his daughter Skadi was tricked by Odin to hunt for an eagle, who had stoles Idunn and her apples and was in turn Thiazi. She killed him, only to discover that she killed her father.

[@gmgtubbz]

I think it’s the bird from helhiem because there are three of them and when all three of them crow it signals that ragnorok has started

[@joaquinruggiero3997]

coming back to this mural after ragnarok, we see the 8 legged horse yet it's not in the game anywhere, i know groa lied but why would she make up a random horse? if she didnt make it up and was in fact part of the truth of what she saw, then where is it?

[@DivineeTray]

Im sorry ik this video was posted a while ago but i have something to ask does god of war actually teach norse mythology what im sayin is does it have some real mythology in it ik certain parts isnt like real norse mythology but is a lot or little has been changed

[@milostasic3388]

If Kratos dies it will be ruined like vikings when Ragnar died😭