God's Plan for the Jewish People | Guest: Dr. Jeremiah Johnston | Ep 977

Today, we sit down with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston to discuss the historical evidence of the bodily resurrection of Jesus and what Christians should think about Israel, the Trinity, the inerrancy of Scripture, and more. Johnston is a New Testament scholar, author, pastor of apologetics and cultural engagement at Prestonwood Baptist Church, and dean of spiritual development at Prestonwood Christian Academy. His new Bible study, Body of Proof, includes four topics and reasons to believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:00 The resurrection / resurrection sites
05:50 Biblical significance of Israel
13:59 “All Israel will be saved”
20:50 Why is the Bible trustworthy?
26:25 Canon of the Bible
31:20 Does the Bible contain errors?
34:52 How to explain the Trinity
39:29 Why do we pray?
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[@every1getready]

If they don’t have the Son, they don’t have the Father

[@byabbs]

Amen

[@sourclam904]

Yep

[@vanessaorock3060]

Ready your bible book for romans says the Jews are judged on the law.

[@cokesmocker39]

I am still growing in my faith and have a long way to go. Not even a third through the Bible but I have been brought up Christian since birth 35 years ago. But I was told by very biblically educated people that The Jews are supposed to get a second chance when Jesus comes back and that some will still deny him. Something that like almost 2/3 will not be saved but one third will. Just throwing in my two cents.

[@every1getready]

@@cokesmocker39 you’re given a second chance every single day, Jewish or anything else. Waiting for Him to come back to be saved is foolish. Get saved today!!

[@callienn]

Thank you SO much for this amazing interview. We are a Messianic family in Jerusalem and I’m blown away by this bold support and clear theological position! Thanks you Allie and Jeremiah! Toda Raba!!! MaMash!!!

[@HansenMoments]

Praying for you and all the Jewish people daily! Praying for the peace of Jerusalem, protection for the IDF, salvation of the Jewish people and that the hostages will get home soon. ❤

[@linak7155]

@callie, how does it feel to look around you and find so much hostility coming from various sources against the Jewish ppl? Atheists, secularists, Muslims, and sadly Christians, too. While it is true that evangelical Christians are Israel's biggest supporters, there is a huge segment that is rabidly anti Jewish. Praying for the peace of Jerusalem 🇮🇱 🕎

[@aloe704]

God Bless you! I have a question, what are ways to support Jews without supporting their government committing genocide?

[@aloe704]

@@linak7155 While the hostility towards the Jews (antisemitism) is horrible, I can understand why Christians are frustrated with the way the Isreali government is bombing churches and killing innocent civilians in Gaza.

[@callienn]

@@linak7155 Thank you for asking such a caring question. I think I might expand on it in a different context, but it's somewhere between painful and utterly frustrating. Antisemitism can be really subtle and its hard to see it, call it out, and then be gas lit.

[@andileec905]

Hi Allie thank you for having Dr Jeremiah Johnston. I have loved this episode. All the way from South Africa. The podcast is really helping me grow in my faith in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and how to have hope in this Godless world. I am 22 years old and believe that more GenZ will be saved by watching content like yours. Thank you so much for your show.

[@fitforchrist1990]

You are only ever saved through grace and faith in Jesus. Your ethnicity has nothing to do with salvation in the new covenant

[@garawa1987]

Exactly even Jesus rebuked the jews for using there linage of Abraham

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

They will be saved by faith, because they are chosen by God the same any of us was chosen, the promises of God from the Old Testament are not erased in the new one, it is tha same God!

[@fitforchrist1990]

@@OlgaSmirnova1 The ones who believe in Jesus will be saved, the ones who reject him will not be

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

@@fitforchrist1990 Romans 11:26-27 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

[@fitforchrist1990]

@OlgaSmirnova1 Israel is referring to all believers jews and gentiles not the nation state created in 1948.

[@shirleypeters494]

Loved how Dr. Jeremiah simplified prayer even though he is a an expert in the bible and history. This brought me so much peace. Thank you for your wisdom.

[@deborahgessner]

Hope everyone had a blessed Resurrection Sunday! He is risen! ✝

[@e.a.r.9155]

Not Jews, not Nobody is Saved unless you have been Born Again..! ..and Remain Saved. REPENTANCE & FAITH IN JESUS.

[@karricompton]

Then how do you interpret Romans 11 where it says all Israel will be saved? God does something supernatural and different with them at the end.

[@josietanner3960]

According to end time prophecy, Jesus will come back to the mount of Olives. Every Jew will see Him. They will mourn for what they had done to Him. They will repent of their sins and believe in Jesus Christ as their Messiah. That is how they will be saved. We find this in Zechariah 12:10. We also find this in Revelation. God still has a heart for His people, which means that we must too.

[@ProtestantKing7]

@@josietanner3960 that does NOT mean that God supports the state of Israel or thwart Christian’s have to as well. That’s twisting scripture. They’re under Gods wrath for their rejection of Christ and immorality

[@ProtestantKing7]

@@karricompton That doesn’t mean Christian’s need to support Israel

[@josietanner3960]

@ProtestantKing7 God disciplined Israel for their rejection of Christ in 70 AD. However, just like He has grace for us, He will have grace for them. They are still His people, and God knows the end from the beginning. The state of Israel was also prophesied in Scripture. My question to you would be if you don't believe that the state of Israel should exist, does that mean that you believe Revelation isn't true? Most of the events take place in Israel, which means that they have to be back in the land for Revelation to even take place.

[@dianewilliams4123]

I have gotten more understanding from listening to Dr Jeremiah Johnson. Thank you Allie Beth for having him on. This is a blessing to listen to true Doctrine.

[@marylee3347]

My Bible study group is reading through the New Testament, and we just started the book of Acts. You guys addressed and answered so many of the questions we have been asking along the way! Thank you, and please bring Jeremiah on the show again.

[@gbrooks799]

There are no words for this interview... Thanks, Allie, for Ep 977... It has been a blessing...

[@valentinei89]

I fully agree with Dr. Johnston, Allie asks the best questions!

[@amdunnigan]

Just want to say that you’re glowing lately, ABS! As always, love you and your much needed heart, wisdom, and voice!

[@heartofalegend]

Yes, she definitely had a bit of a makeover. It's as if she visited the Emerald City, had a session with those 3 ladies, and came out the other end. "That's how we laugh the day away in the merry ol' land of Relatable!"

[@amandabridgesdms1942]

This is one of my FAVORITE VIDEOS you have ever made! My hope is restored! Praise THE LORD!!

[@rachelgoldsberry201]

I could listen to this man all day. Have him back!

[@cameronshane2615]

ur a Jew thats why... Christ is King, he is the Messiah Ms. GOLDsberry We don't want these Zio anti Christian people around us at all anymore spreading lies and filth against the our Lord. We are also American not Israelian, so we dont care. Those people need to change to Christians and we pray for it to happen everyday. This guy can kick rocks

[@steveguti6452]

May your faith in God bring you peace hope and love to your heart and everlasting joy to your soul may God shine upon you this blessed holy resurrection Sunday and always praise God praying for Everyone everyday God bless you all

[@charlottedoyle1257]

As a Messianic Jewish, I am thankful for this interview. Shalom!

[@steveguti6452]

Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he Rose again the third day praise God praying for everyone everyday God Bless you all....

[@justagirlandherbible5296]

But who is “all Israel?” Feel like this was somewhat avoided and it’s so crucial.

[@davidh7223]

This was beautiful. Please do this again! Deep dives with long answers are the best, and this guy knows how to deliver!

[@blessed_wife.mom.boss_]

I have twins who are 7 and this just melted my heart! I cant wait to hear those words come out of their mouths! This was so encouraging!

[@steveguti6452]

Jesus Christ is risen have faith in him and he will always be there for you praise God praying for Everyone Everyday God bless you all

[@michaelgarner4229]

I am the way the truth, and the life, no one cometh to the father except thru me. "Jesus" said it.

[@ckemesha]

This is a beautiful conversation. 😢I cried with revelation filling my heart. Thank you, thank you Lord Jesus.

[@SteveWV]

Not all of israel is israel. A remnant of Israel will be saved just like a remnant of gentiles.

[@annabecker6946]

Might be my favorite episode I’ve listened to so far! Great questions, great answers! Consider me edified.

[@2000dns]

How the heck do only 33% of young Christians believe in the resurrection of Christ?! Apostle Paul writes that our religion is completely void and false if Jesus did not bodily and historically rise from the dead as the Scriptures foretell. Old Testament prophecy about the Messiah being cut off from the land of the living, dying, and rising again. This prophecy can be found in Isaiah 53:8-10. It says, "By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people? And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand." This prophecy speaks of the Messiah's suffering, death, and ultimate victory through resurrection.

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Because it's unbelievable

[@elizabethcarman7659]

Many millennials with boomer parents were taught about the Bible and about God as: "This is what we believe because I said so." We weren't taught how to read the Bible, study it, or interpret theology. Asking any hard questions (or questions our teachers or parents didn't know the answers to) was considered disrespectful. This led to many unanswered questions and, in turn, unbelief. That's how it happened. I'm hopeful that many of my generation will find their way back just as I did. I know I won't make the same mistakes with my kids.

[@michaelfalsia6062]

Easy they have never been saved and have an empty and false profession of faith. No one who has been born from above and has the Holy Spirit could doubt or disbelieve the resurrection as you show. A Christian may get knocked off balance for a short time and experience a bout with unbelief, but God will not let any of His redeemed children go to long in such a condition. Dominque Crossan a rank unbeliever in many ways and a NT scholar says he is a Christian but only in a philosophical or political way because of the moral goodness and virtue he sees in the Christian faith. He only believes that Jesus was a good moral teacher and nothing more. He denies his divinity, the Trinity and the resurrection as merely symbolic of Jesus revolutionary teachings with respect to what he calls radical justice and the brotherhood of man. The golden rule philosophy of life. Many Bible scholars are in this category. So, it is no surprise that only a third of young professors actually believe in the resurrection.

[@dpastor6631]

You shouldn't call the 66% who don't believe in the resurrection, "Christians". They aren't Christians. How do we know that? Listen carefully to Romans 10:9 which says, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT GOD HAS RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, YOU WILL BE SAVED." Hence, sadly, they are not saved if they do not believe in their heart that the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Thus, they are not Christians by the Bible's definition of a real Christian.

[@annabecker6946]

He said they don’t believe it is a “historical fact”…meaning they themselves may believe it but they think it is just a belief christians hold in faith, not realizing it is a provable historical fact…at least that’s the way I understood it.

[@ldeanonmolina4077]

Thank you Dr Jeremiah and Allie. I pray that your ministry will flourish more and more to be used for God’s glory and for the people to be awakened too about the truth of His Word- The Bible. I am originally from Philippines but now live in UK, I arrived in 2002. I suggest that you will consider subtitles even in English? so that a lot of people will understand and be ministered. I remember when I first arrived in England, even we where taught English back home, hearing different accents is a struggle in order to understand, well, as time goes by, by God’s grace I get used to it and able to comprehend well. Thank you. 🙏✝️🌏

[@jnjstroud]

Without the Gospel you have no salvation. There is no remnant without Christ. The modern and biblical Jews hated Christ and anyone that is outside of Judaism. They believe that you, Christian, are beneath them. However, we are called to love those that persecute you… but that doesn’t mean we don’t speak truth. The Gospel offends all by itself.

[@jordanbernstein8936]

Amen

[@SpotterVideo]

@@jordanbernstein8936 Amen. Is this man replacing the word "remnant" in Romans 9:27 with the word "nation"? Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.

[@linak7155]

During the time of the Messiah's visitation, many of the Jewish ppl did, in fact, believe in and follow Jesus. All the apostles save for Mark were Jewish, too. "...because on account of him many of the Jews were going away [from the teaching and traditions of the Jewish leaders] and believing in Jesus" [following Him as Savior and Messiah] John 12 (AB). We can not paint all Jews with the same brush. I have mingled with many Believing Jews who have forfeited family and inheritance for the gospel. Many secular and religious Jews do not feel superior to the rest of us. They are guarded and protective because they have experienced persecution for centuries from religious Chritian leaders. The Crusades and the Holocaust were horrific in nature. Our mandate is to pray they would come to Messiah in masse numbers Rom 9 -11🙏

[@marchess286]

it sounds like you are the hate filled one here.

[@ProtestantKing7]

@@marchess286 go read the Talmud then get back to us

[@emilyribnicky9410]

These shows just keep getting better and better! Wow! So much encouragement in this one!!!

[@culturalobserver8721]

I agree!! Allie’s love for God and others shows up in each episode!! 👍🏼🙏

[@montanais3]

God will never turn his back on Israel. We have a choice to turn to or away from God. He will always be there for all believers. Replacement theology is false. Salvation is for all who believe.

[@fitforchrist1990]

The Israel of the Bible and the secular nation-state created by the Rothschilds are completely different. Believers are the ones who are saved whether jew or gentile.

[@valleyboy2312]

I think he already has... the next few years will unveil whether he has or not as they are surrounded by enelies there and US is becoming more weaker and may not be able to protect in future ...lets see

[@juliepnicole]

this was such an incredible episode! i've been wondering a lot about this lately, so this conversation was super helpful. definitely one of my favorites.

[@peterlorincz2326]

Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU." So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. (Gal 3:7-9) For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. (Rom 2:28-29)

[@sharamadsen3080]

We are Israel Paul makes it pretty clear; Romans 9:6-8 6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. Also in Galatians 3:29 we are told that if we are Christ’s, we ARE Abraham’s offspring Ephesians 2:11-20 tells us that WE now have the promise of the covenants Galatians 6:16 says that if you walk with Christ you are part of the Israel of God Romans 2:28-29 declared that Christians are spiritual Jews as they have circumcision of the heart

[@sharamadsen3080]

The unbelieving Jews have been broken off and believing gentiles grafted in to Israel

[@heartofalegend]

Can you imagine if all Christians had the settled confidence in the gospel that this man has? This is one to re-watch and take notes on. My goodness, what a treasure trove of wisdom and truth this episode was!

[@wadeprofe4880]

The church does not replace Israel. The church is Israel. This teaching permeates the New Testament.

[@s.eimiwitmer3649]

Yes. In a symbolic sense.

[@Sam12_13]

@@s.eimiwitmer3649 The church is not Israel. The Word of God is not the Bible, but Jesus. Do not be fooled by false gods, Jesus is the Word! Not the Bible! You are being misled.

[@mustafabarzanji9280]

The whole universe is Israel. Do not be fooled, when we humans colonize planets in the future, the children of Israel are entitled to ALL the planets and their inhabitants. It is the will of He.

[@user-gx4uc8my3n]

"the church is israel". jews go to synagogue, not church. doesnt make any sense

[@mustafabarzanji9280]

@@user-gx4uc8my3n the entire universe is Israel :)

[@chrishand259]

Thank you for this interview and for your podcast. Jeremiah is right. You speak the truth, ask great questions and give hope. I’m a 50 year old relatabro and I definitely appreciated the question about prayer. Wish there was more time to dive into that. I struggle with that question. But thank you for all you do! 🙏

[@Teal_Seal]

I don’t know how to pray long prayers. Always felt like I’m doing it wrong when mine are short. Thank you for this encouragement! ❤

[@SachelleCambria]

Sometimes, the best prayer is a short prayer.

[@tsukareppi]

Wow, what a great and eye-opening episode. Thank you for being willing to ask the important questions-ones that I might not even know I have!

[@dpastor6631]

Except he badly misrepresented Amillennialists, who DON'T believe in replacement theology. That's a common error among Dispensationalists.

[@gcpsbert7198]

Great conversation. The part on prayer was so good. "Help me Jesus" is more powerful than anyone can know.

[@kathrynhope2816]

Praise God He still heals today ✝️

[@otgonzayadamdinsuren5603]

Amen. Praise the GOD. The episode gave me a lot of wisdom. So thankful for you guys. From Mongolia.

[@kathyarmstrong8644]

Again we are grafted onto the chosen people!!

[@dpastor6631]

And being ingrafted means we are a part of God's chosen people. Likewise, all unbelieving Jews are broken off from true Israel, while those who believe are re-grafted. So, all believing Gentiles and all believing Jews are a part of the true tree of elect israel.

[@TMTM584]

@@dpastor6631No, this is wrong it is political, don’t fall for it. It is evil genocide!

[@amyshackelford8599]

Yes and AMEN to the whole show! 🙌🏻

[@nataliefrancis7884]

Dr. Jeremiah’s trips had their earthly birthday and spiritual birthday on the same days. How very cool is that. Only Yeshua Jesus!

[@TheLymanDiamond]

Great interview and podcast and an amazing testimony about the triplets. I was shouting when he said.. “I want to be saved” Really enjoyed every minute of this.

[@shanescott3168]

Maybe Jeremiah Johnston should be a regular guest on Relatable. I enjoyed hearing and meeting him recently. He is knowledgeable and presents well.

[@kathrynhope2816]

Praise God that HE IS GOD and we are not...

[@bradyhayes7911]

The Church is the New Jerusalem (Revelations 21:2). I understand many modern Protestants reject this, but I think it's plainly Scriptural. Israel was set apart as God's people in the Old Covenant, and in the New Covenant, gentiles were grafted in via Christ's mystical body. It's true that God will bless those who bless the children of Abraham (Genesis 12:3). But here's the thing: We're ALSO children of Abraham now (Galations 3:7, 3:29) In the New Covenant, God's people are the Christians. That includes ethnic Jews who accept Christ, but isn't limited to them. There is no longer Jew or gentile, for all is one in Christ Jesus (Galations 3:28). The transition from old Israel to new Israel was finalized with the destruction of the second temple in AD 70 - Ezekiel 10:18 prophesized that God's glory would one day depart from the temple, and Revelations 11:1-2 foretell of the trampling of the temple. Most importantly, Christ Himself says that He will tear down the temple, and rebuild it in 3 days (John 2:19). The temple is indeed destroyed as part of God's judgment on the old Israel, but the rebuilt temple isn't a physical building. It's the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27-28), which is resurrected after 3 days and which we become enjoined to as Christians. God established a family through Abraham, a people through Israel (Jacob), a nation through Moses, a Kingdom through David, and finally a Church through Peter. A hardening has come over most ethnic Jews for the time being, and eventually the Jews as a people will convert (Romans 11:25-26). In the meantime, Christians shouldn't have a particular affection for the modern state of Israel, or certainly for Judaism. Modern Israel isn't the same Israel from the Old Testament, and Talmudic Judaism is quite literally the successor to the religion of the pharisees. It's the 'traditions of men' Christ expicitly condemns. As it stands, the old Israel largely rejects Christ. No one comes to the Father except through Him. Still, we should NOT resent ethnic Jews. Paul warns us against this in Romans 11:17-18. We must pray their conversion happens quickly, for their own sake. The Jews are our older brothers in the faith - This is what the Catholic Church teaches. That sounds reverential, but think Esau and Jacob. Think Ishmael and Isaac. Most importantly, think Cain and Abel. Throughout the Old Testament, God talks about how animal sacrifices will end (Psalm 50) and be replaced by sacrifices of thanksgiving (Greek: Eucharistia = Eucharist). In Malachi 1, we see that God is angry with Israel for offering Him half-hearted animal sacrifices. He says He will no longer accept offerings from the hands of Israel. Instead, He will accept pure offerings from gentiles (verse 11). This directly mirrors how God was not pleased by Cain's, the older brother's, sacrifice, and was pleased by Abel's. In the Eucharist, we re-present the once-and-for-all pure offering of the spotless lamb, meaning that Cain is a type of old Israel and Abel is a type of both Christ (having been killed by His own people) and the new Israel generally (who make pure offerings). Dispensationalism was invented by John Nelson Darby in the 19th century. What I'm articulating here isn't 'Replacement theology' - it's Fulfillment theology, and it's held by every single ancient, apostolic Church. Covenant theologians, who are often Presbytarians, also understand this.

[@TheBrotherOfPeter]

Amen!

[@rebekahguse2703]

Fully agree. So well said.

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Poor Jews can't even trust their own God

[@rebekahguse2703]

I wish this episode went more into some other points. I realize there’s not time for it all. But clearly the Olivet Discourse and Jesus in other parts of the gospels is pronouncing judgement on Jerusalem/Jews, fulfilled in 70AD. Seems to me the church does inherit the blessings and promises made to Israel to inherit the land, etc (seems this will be fulfilled in the New Heaven and Earth so of course Israel IF they repent will also receive it). Also seems it is true that God is not finished using Israel and there will be mass revival before Christ’s coming in the flesh. There’s a lot to unpack. The side of “replacement theology” wasn’t fairly represented. Neither was the side that favours Israel. Most dispensationalists don’t believe Jews/Israelis don’t need the gospel. But it dooooes seem like they don’t see Jews/Israel doing any wrong and do have inherit privileges which I don’t think is scriptural. I think ultimately our hearts should mourn over their rejection of Jesus as Messiah and pray for their repentance - same as any other nation.

[@SusanStilley]

I think you mean John Nelson Darby. John Wayne was an actor. John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer.

[@faithcouper]

This was so great!! Thank you both. ❤

[@lindasteinbrenner8065]

Selfishly I wished this episode would go on for another hour or two! I so enjoyed listening to you both. I have to admit that I was so surprised that there are people that do not accept that Jesus was and is Jewish. Again excellent episode and so appropriate for Easter Monday.❤

[@landlockedpirate54]

A fantastically encouraging show!

[@kathrynhope2816]

Praise God for these little ones!!!

[@fmzamoranod]

Dr. Johnston suggested that the Resurrection is only preached in Easter and is not preached enough. I have found a church that preaches the resurrection every Sunday, in fact every day. It is called the Catholic Church, where the resurrection is at the center of the mass. I’ll give you that Unfortunately many of those there do not truly understand it, they don’t understand what they are celebrating, and they see themselves just us attending a service like many other churches do on Sundays.

[@joykeebler1916]

- yes all Israel shall be saved

[@jamesba-xd7xf]

WRONG, the verses say "when the fullness of the gentiles come in SO/this will BE all israel being saved". ISRAEL = BELIEVING Jews and Gentiles, UNBELIEVING Jews are not israel. the last gentiles being saved will be "all israel being saved".

[@felliesweetie]

​@@jamesba-xd7xfNope

[@amyk87]

@@jamesba-xd7xfYou are the one who is wrong. Gentiles remain Gentiles and Jews remain Jews. We are one spiritually in Christ, but Gentiles are the wild olive branches grafted onto the natural tree - the Jews. When the fullness of the Gentiles is complete and Christ returns, the Jews will mourn for the One they have pierced and turn to Him. Replacement theory dressed up as “fulfillment theory” is a lie. God will not break His covenant with His chosen people, and His Word tells us exactly what will happen.

[@jamesba-xd7xf]

@@amyk87 God did not break his covenant with the Jews, THEY Did by rejecting christ. Jesus told the jews in john 8 "IF God were your father you would love me" AND "you are of your father the devil"....so you are saying those jews in john 8 STILL had a covenant with God?? . NEXT, Jews are NOT the olive tree!, the Root is GOD, the tree is israel, and the branches are Jewish and Gentile believers who are ALL Israel. hence the bible says "a PARTIAL hardening has come upon israel UNTILL the fullness of the gentiles comes in and SO all israel will be saved" OR "IN THIS WAY all israel will be saved". Jews already had the Gospel preached to them and most rejected it but the remnant accepted it, THEN and now the gentiles ( those who will, NOT every gentile) who believe in christ are the FULL number of israel being saved. NOWHERE does the bible say there will be a mass conversion of Jews or gentiles in the end times. NEXT, "they will look upon him whom they have pierced" was fullfilled 2000 years ago at the cross. NO ONE alive today pierced christ or looked upon him. NEXT, when Jesus returns he will be teturning to bring death, vengance and wrath upon ALL Jews and Gentiles who rejected him. NO ONE will be saved at Jesus coming.

[@dpastor6631]

@@amyk87Grafted in means that believing Gentiles are now a part of the tree of true believing Israel by ingrafting. Think of it this way, believing Jews are a part of true Israel and believing Gentiles are a part of true Israel. They are still, ethnically, Jews and Gentiles, but together, spiritually, they are true Israel (Eph 2:12), all are true sons of Abraham and heirs of the promises (Galatians).

[@ChristineTX]

Enjoyed this conversation so much!

[@debblouin]

God’s plan for Israel was Messiah. Still is. Same as everyone else.

[@elsarams9402]

Beautiful exposition ❤ so Holy Spirit inspiring especially towards the end of the episode

[@2000dns]

Allie Beth thank you for these amazing questions!

[@hueysimon2726]

I believe "all Israel will be saved" means that we, as Christians are the new Israelites. So all Christians(Those that accepted Jesus as their savior) will be saved. I don't believe it has anything to do with race or geographical location.

[@vanessaorock3060]

The bible does not say that tho lol

[@arteotomiMexico]

@@vanessaorock3060 The Bible: God’s Sovereign Choice 6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.

[@vanessaorock3060]

@@arteotomiMexico romans 2:12 -16

[@arteotomiMexico]

@@vanessaorock3060 In that same Romans versicle says. God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. Do jewish people believe in Jesus or reject Jesus?

[@vanessaorock3060]

@@arteotomiMexico the blood of Jesus, wipes away all of sins and is merciful it is because of that blood that the grace of God will fall upon the Jews whom have obeyed the written law. Read the rest of the chapter and Paul literally says that. Of course we should preach the gospel to all people. But the bible makes it clear that the Jews whom follow the law through the grace of Jesus will be judged by it but when Jesus comes they will believe in him. Why do people reject this ? It is literally God himself who has partially hardened them until the fullness of the gentiles have come, so it is God alone who can have mercy on them. Romans 11 -25 onwards

[@katelyn222]

Such a great episode. Would love to have him return again!

[@faith2275]

Gosh loved this episode SO much!

[@Emet-Debar]

So perfectly said you two! Truth spoken right from the Bible! Ignore the hateful comments! It really is expected in these last days!

[@burgx01]

We need a part 2 to go through more questions!

[@garyjelich4372]

Allie, I listen to every one of your Relatable podcasts, and I have to say that today's is near the TOP! As a relatabro who is a member of a Messianic Congregation, I LOVE to hear about the Jewish context of the Bible, including the Gospels. My rabbi/pastor, Jonathan Cahn, has written many best-selling books. You should have him on Relatable one day!

[@cappylover192]

I didn’t realize Cahn was a pastor or that he was a Jew. Fascinating!

[@sarawinardi6745]

@@cappylover192he is a Messianic Jew

[@colestile8329]

Please consider having John Moffitt on to discuss “replacement theology” Of course we love Israel as we love all people. However, there are a large number of people, like myself, that are married to and or whose children are service members that will doing the engagement. As the wife of a service member who just spent 8.5 months in the Mediterranean we simply do not want to go to war. A war we will lose… similar to the last war my husband fought in. It seems as if this episode is being presented to combat antisemitism while ignoring entirely that perhaps some folks just don’t want to go to war. It is frustrating being gaslighted into an anti-Semite, and or bigot, when I simply do not want to go to war. It’s interesting that the only person that is accurately covered the reality of American wars and recent history is Candace.

[@atd2502]

My husband is a Palestinian Christian. I've never felt more abandoned by my faith than listening to what his family is going through over seas and hearing nothing but horrible slurs about them at home. ☹️

[@williammollyvanronzelen8241]

@@atd2502 Many American evangelicals have no idea that there are Arab Christians living in the Palestinian Territories. Even more disturbing is that many American Evangelicals are completely unaware that Israeli Christians are frequently the target of harassment and abuse at the hands of Orthodox Jews. I am so sorry you are having to deal with all that, you are in my prayers!

[@KY-te4mn]

@atd2502 I cry for you and my heart is turning black because what I see and I can’t do anything😢😢😢😢😞😢. And I am not even Christian 😞. my may God’s peace with you Your were the first among Christians and God willing will be the last Christian in this world. Far outlasting any of those want exterminate you, take your home and committing ungodly level of cruelty and barbarism against you while the mighty Christian state of this world not only stand watching idly but also sending sky and sea bridges of arms to keep you in perpetual state of suffering and misery. (Aren’t Christian supposed to be brothern in joy and misery regardless of origin ??? If not being fair to call when they see wrong ??? I am crying and I can only weep in my alone. My God’ peace be to you from Columbus Ohio

[@renatafnedab3003]

Which part is anti - s…..?

[@l.c.8798]

No I think you've just missed the whole point of the discussion.

[@eternian6693]

Replacement theology is a smear. God did not abandon the Jews. The Jews rejected Him. Jesus gives many parables about this. The parable of the banquet. It is worse for a Jew to reject Christ because they have been given all the promises.

[@Piccolo_Re]

Great show! Amen the Resurrection needs taught in detail to many people. There is so much history backing it.

[@debbieblair593]

What a beautiful episode. I am smiling ear to ear

[@lenapalmer323]

This was awesome! More of these kinds of episodes please!

[@mckenzietrappey3481]

This was amazing need more of him on the show! I love it!!! Thanks allie!!

[@eviesalas6756]

This is a great episode

[@l.c.8798]

This was an absolutely fantastic episode! I was listening with *rapt* attention the entire time 👏🙏💯

[@erikastanger7848]

I love how passionate and excited this.guy is! He's obviously so much more educated than i am, but we history freaks can get giddy about history. 😆

[@megalyon]

Great episode, thank you!

[@suesmith9477]

God's plan for Israel is the same plan for all mankind...become part of the church, the Bride of Christ, as the Bible describes and follow him...the gospel is for all-the Jew and the Gentile.

[@cynthiarm253]

Topic apropos considering the drama between Shapiro and Owens! Between Islam, Christianity, and Judaism just now. PTL Thank you~

[@Henry-gp8xk]

I really enjoyed this interview ❤

[@somethintru1]

Such a great video - can’t wait to get my hands on this book

[@user-kr5ph2oi2b]

True believers need to stop following the Western world's ways of worshiping King Yahusha. The Great I AM gave us his feast, not the pagan holidays, as Christmas and Easter. Fear God and keep his commandments.

[@montanais3]

Spiritual Israel is all that have crossed over into the faith. Remember there was a mixed multitude at Mount Sinai. God called all his believers the word Israel. We are grafted in once we believe and cross over into faith in Yeshua. 🎉

[@lindamorgan4345]

This was outstanding! I’m also so relieved! Something you said in the episode about Christ Is King trending made me fear you were supporting replacement theology. 😅 Please make him a returning guest! So much great theology in a concise and understandable delivery. I definitely want to get his Bible study. Thanks so much for this episode!

[@patrickmccarthy1121]

Allie, i appreciate your perspective on many topics. However, on this one, I think you need to do more research before you opine on it. The antithesis of your view isn't "replacement theology" it's "fulfillment theology." Also, no one is denying that Jesus was not a Jew. In this video, you and Jeremiah attack the fringes and don't seriously address the arguments for covenant theology. Please have Jon Moffitt on from Theocast. I think it would be a very edifying conversation for your listeners.

[@colestile8329]

Please have on Jon Moffitt. As someone married to an active duty service member that just spent 8.5 months on the Mediterranean it’s frustrating to see the fringes being addressed while the vast majority simply does not want involved in another war to which we will lose. We will lose our loved ones.

[@amyk87]

Calling replacement theory by a different name doesn’t change it or make it less erroneous. Paul cautioned Gentiles not to become haughty thinking they were greater than the Jews or had replaced the Jews. If we as wild olive branches are grafted in, how much more will the natural branches be regrafted in? As Dr. Johnson said, there is a hardening among the Jews in general right now (there is obviously a Messianic remnant), but they will eventually recognize the One they have pierced and return to Him. Evangelicals that hold to this unbiblical theory that God is done with the Jews need to read their Bibles and pray for understanding. God is not a covenant breaker and He has promised the Jews will return to Him.

[@josephm2357]

Dispensationalism is a theological innovation, it is very new compared to covenant theology. Dispensationalism is theology of escapism and defeatism. Defeatism is built into it. People who believe in it have untethered themselves from the protestants of the past and most christians from the last 1900 years.

[@Brandonw55]

@@josephm2357listening to the critics rather than the evidence.

[@lisaengel89]

I was grafted in! 💥📖

[@dpastor6631]

To what? To the tree of true Israel, which makes you a part of true Israel by ingrafting.

[@elossi161161]

Great discussion and guest Allie Beth.

[@shashamylife]

1 Peter chapter 2: 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Christians who believe in Jesus are the chosen nation, not the modern nation of Israel.

[@delroymarkland9162]

This...was...A-MAZING!!!!

[@rebekahtemple250]

Great episode! I took notes! ❤

[@i.f7032]

Beth God bless you

[@Emet-Debar]

Ty! For those who hunger for Gods word the Bible is clear that there is a purpose for Israel and the chosen Jews from Genesis through Revelation!

[@dafneb9577]

Beautiful episode ❤❤❤

[@sharamadsen3080]

Friends don't let friends be dispensational.

[@chriss2452]

What's dispensational?

[@juliewyatt7725]

😂

[@sharamadsen3080]

@@chriss2452 a terrible interpretive method dreamed up by Darby in the 1800s

[@josephm2357]

​@@sharamadsen3080 It's a theology of escapism and defeatism. Long term thinking is prohibited by its doctrines and that's why our enemies win.

[@sheacoaching]

Thankfully, my Presbyterian Church speaks about the resurrection of Jesus often! The gospel is presented every week on Sunday and the sacraments are given every week. There are lots of Christian churches who are like that! Thankfully.

[@harpazoseason]

Another banger! Great great video.

[@nobel9511]

All of Gods elect will be effectually called , that includes all elect Polish , Russian , Chinese , Dutch , Palestinian and Jews. Thank you and God bless

[@lovetheword6210]

1000%!! Amen🙂

[@ericawigginton3758]

Awesome episode! I’d love if you would do more shows like this one!

[@hairmatters7730]

Thanks!

[@ashlyn925]

One of my fave interviews!

[@laurenpatricia411]

He said your name so many times, like an unsettling number of times. It was like a sales man.. ick

[@Peregrin3]

Something to keep in mind is that it says 'will be' future tense. That means they aren't saved yet meaning that they are still in rebellion against God. So what should we do as Christians? We should pray that they be saved, we should love them by sharing the gospel to them, we shouldn't hate them but we definitely should not support or partake in their sins either. This is blattently clear in the Bible.

[@ThinkHEAVEN-YouTube]

Interesting history of ❤ Christianity. 🎉 A 🌹 fresh approach 😉.

[@tinebino]

Awesome show and guest