Going Natty After 9 Years of PED Abuse - Pete Rubish || MBPP Ep. 928

In this Podcast Episode, Pete Rubish, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about Pete's journey going from nine years of using and abusing PED's to quitting them cold turkey.
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Time Stamps
00:00 Episode Preview
00:43 Podcast Start
02:42 Why Pete decided to Stop Anabolics, his early cycles
05:48 Can you hold onto your gains when you go Natty?
07:10 Warnings to guys coming off of Test and Anabolics
10:15 Pete now vs Pete on Anabolics
14:00 Petes Bloodwork on cycle
15:35 Pete’s story of training with Dallas McCarver
20:15 Considerations for having a child if you’re on PEDs
21:00 Pete’s Tren stories
27:00 Pete’s past use of Stimulants
28:00 How Pete would have handled PED’s Differently
28:55 Why Pete used heavy rows in training
31:50 Does Pete still use the ANGER to lift?
33:00 Pete at the Backyard Meet of the Century
37:13 Tactics to get strong and gain Weight
39:20 Dealing with Acne from Anabolics
42:10 Pete runs a half marathon each month
44:19 Pete is gaining NEW MUSCLE
47:40 What we want in Life.
52:30 Pete pays attention to his Dopamine
57:19 Why Pete cut out Porn
1:03:46 How do your actions make you feel?
1:07:44 Why Pete chose NOT to do TRT
1:11:32 How Pete improved snoring and Sleep Apnea
1:15:30 How Pete handles Bloodwork (his own and clients)
1:21:50 Pete’s love affair with Pizza
1:26:02 Pete and the Animal Cage
1:28:56 Chris Hickson and his Crazy Deadlifts
1:30:31 Is sumo Deadlift cheating.
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[@PeteRubish]

Thanks for having me on guys! It was a pleasure as always! Mark, Nsima, Andrew, Chris, Kenny, Wyatt, Russell, all of y'all are awesome!

[@Mr_T_a4m]

Great podcast! And the best coach. Thank you my friend and great work!

[@MarkBellsPowerProject]

It was great having you on Pete, thank you! We'll do it again after your marathon haha

[@user-fd3cn2hg9q]

trens garbage bro, i like one cc of test or the pro hormone 1-testosterone, its like a mild tren dose, check it out, huge motivation! i like yo smoke some weed on jack3d when i pull deads lol

[@moreplatesnodates9751]

Pete Rubish is the man, an og. Deadlifting heavy weight intensely in his basement in front of washer and dryer, classic. Awesome interview

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you so much buddy! I appreciate the support!

[@michaelmody]

The good old days of Pete in front of the washer / dryer and Smelly on the couch at home are forever savored in my memory.

[@PeteRubish]

Yes sir! I think it's wild how different both of us look 7 years later!

[@ManletStrength]

Pete is a legend! He did so much for the powerlifting community and the strength community overall. All of these new and upcoming lifters try to be like Pete and even Larry wheels with the yelling and throwing their belt across the weight room. Nobody will ever be able to replace Pete or even Larry. Thank you Pete for all that you've done for us 👍💯

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you for the kind words brother! Hope you're doing well in Illinois!

[@ManletStrength]

@@PeteRubish I think you're thinking about someone else. I live in Maryland lol

[@Jfhfi678]

Good to see Pete looking so healthy, he looks so much better now! Was a huge inspiration in my youth, HS , college - lifting watching his videos…the zyzz, rave, misc era… fun memories… wish I could go back! But i can’t.. oh well

[@mattepton5731]

Pete is my guy and what he is doing with his platform is truly amazing and beneficial to the fitness/performance community. I hope he continues to grow as his message is positive, impactful and accredited. Wishing you all a great Wednesday and thank you for another great podcast.

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you Matt! I see you comment on nearly every video of mine and I appreciate the support big time brother!

[@MarkBellsPowerProject]

Thank you Matt!

[@leislymejia2864]

He is so humble. crazy to think this quiet dude was the same one pulling 900lbs with every bit of aggression 👌🏻

[@antondeklerkdrtony3d412]

Pete has been an amazing inspiration for me. I have been off for 14 months now, and pete actually helped me get my test to a better place🙏

[@engineeredtruths8935]

What are your levels now? What did you do?

[@PeteRubish]

Keep pushing brother! That is awesome to hear!

[@antondeklerkdrtony3d412]

@Engineered Truths I started with 9.5 month after stoping and after a good pct after few month I have 21 and 610 free it goes up and down depending how I train and sleep.... I did hcg 750ius it's best to do some in tour cycle and then hcg with out test for two weeks then armidex .5 eod for 2 weeks then last small dose armomasin 💪

[@MarkBellsPowerProject]

Congrats!

[@tommyguns9780]

Pete the triple OG KZbin legend. So glad to see you doing good and healthy, good for you brother 💪🏻👍🏻

[@hectorfigueroa2596]

Always been a huge fan of Pete just as a person, so good to see him so healthy and happy.

[@DizzyD88]

Man I haven't seen Pete in a minute. So happy to see him crushing it. Mark, love this guy too. You guys all look happy and healthy and that's awesome.

[@GambitQueens]

Pete's so good at explaining things, he's probably a great coach for that reason hesitant

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@KazX37]

Man great discussion. I've always looked up to Pete, started back when I was powerlifting. Met him (man his back felt like a damn oak tree when we took a pic together) and watched him rip some unreal weight at a meet in Charleston WV. I stayed natty myself, and a lot of this discussion still resonates with myself and also my experience with friends who were on. Esp the dark reality of tren. Awesome to hear the honesty and story. You continue to be a role model for many brother.

[@ShawnKeller-1]

Awesome podcast. Pete is accomplishing more now than when he was at his lifting peak. He’s putting out great info. A smart dude at his young age. 👍👍

[@MrScottyT21]

Great watch/listen guys! Pete is such a great guy, so open & honest. Thanks for sharing.

[@Nick12908]

Pete and Mark have both been big inspirations to me on my lifting journey. This was awesome to watch.

[@ErnieLilliebridgeJR]

Excellent interview enjoyed it very much! Me personally I don’t like Tren, mainly leads to injuries. It does have a bad reputation because people abuse the shit out of it taking dosages fit for a horses. If it was used correctly say 10 to 20 mg daily /micro dosing you would be OK. I know the majority believes Tren is the best for strength but to me it’s not, there are other supplements out there that are superior with way less side effects like ment aka trestolone for example will blow Tren out the weter for strength.

[@ZippyLikesZippers]

Wish you guys could do more podcasts like this

[@toddmarr1400]

I’m 10 times more calm on trt than I was natty with low t.

[@PeteRubish]

I could see that for sure!

[@Micolashcage1]

Same man. Little things would get to me. Ruminating, negative mindset. Its like night and day on trt. I say this as someone who has gotten off multiple times for fertility reasons and to run accutane. On TRT I feel stable. Off TRT it is very difficult to handle stress

[@toddmarr1400]

Life changing for the good!!

[@toddmarr1400]

Life changing for the good!!

[@XyZDemise]

Same

[@ecca777]

Pete was definitely someone that inspired me to Deadlift heavy back in the day. I barely deadlift now, I prefer Hang Cleans

[@SHINYxCHROME]

Loved the insights from Pete. Always knew he was an insane lifter but never knew he was this cerebral. I'm a new fan!

[@toddmarr1400]

Pete, thank you for your transparency! I watched your channel when you were talking about tren.

[@Miks_Petersons]

Great lifter, thanks for the interview. Been a Pete subscriber since 2015

[@4funner66]

This is the best episode to date!

[@hyoseok1121]

Holy shit.... probably a couple of years ago saw his deadlift video... and start lifting... wish your health getting better man

[@TheBaitShopGuy]

I saw Pete deadlift and he has the perfect build to deadlift a lot with those looooong arms. I'm 6'2 with a 6'6 reach and I have a deadlifters build so I know how it works.

[@jeffreyrubish347]

Hickson was so casual during his deadlifts. Like picking up a laundry basket.

[@austinhowell3463]

Fuck this brought me back so hard damn Looking back those 7 years with them was like looking back for me too I watched them then, and lived like I was I watch them now and live like I do Insane the changes

[@HuseyinMerheb]

Pete is awesome really learnt a lot from him, thanks guys

[@_CoachW]

Nsima's face when he hears five hours. Classic 😆

[@HoY1337]

Best podcast you guys have done in a while well done 👏👏👏👏👏

[@Johnny_Dregs]

what a good group to listen too.

[@Firstworse970]

That was really good Lov to hear different point of views

[@sethmallo9284]

Thanks again. Great content, great dudes

[@Mr_T_a4m]

I’m 30 minutes in. Am loving this. Great work!

[@g0k00]

Pete does some of the best food reviews

[@Bangarang341]

I remember back in the day i confused Pete Rubish and Furious Pete

[@likesomeboodee]

Love this episode!

[@merkoutios]

Amazing podcast as always...

[@j3ohnny]

I look better on trt but actually put up better numbers when I was natural I was about 20-25lb heavier when I was natural. I also knew Dallas when he was 18-22 he used to come into a nightclub I bartender at. A guy name Brian that worked out at our local gym was actually the guy that introduced Dallas to gear. Dallas was always a big guy in highschool..

[@cantilever]

Is Nsima narrating books on tape...? Is he doing voiceover work for commercials...? The dude should be raking it in with those dulcet tones...

[@MrTubbyTony]

Some great discussion here

[@DavenportBarbell]

Best episode ever!!!

[@rafaeladrian1510]

300 lb dip in deadlift strength😮‍💨 that is insane

[@Blacknight200]

Awesome video as usual, outside of this why are this minimal viviobare shoes so expensive at a maximum price point, even with the discount. Id rather buy $25 slippers that are minimal too.

[@philiphaight4177]

Great podcast. Now you gotta interview the other Pete. Furious Pete!

[@billtaylor331]

Why was it abuse versus use?

[@Ab0veAll_]

I bet he still has some killer numbers.

[@PeteRubish]

I was at a 705 deadlift and 385 bench in December, but I've leaned out considerably since then.

[@dansmith9724]

​@PeteRubish you'd be the top dog if you trained in any commercial gym with those numbers.

[@GJ-DT]

Nsima 3xs bigger than everyone and natural.

[@arjunvasanth4991]

If with this much of experience, if this elite group of people, can derive a natty progression and goal set, it will be very motivating. For a full natty lifter therrs no motivation online now..because everyone lifts morr and after 10 years they honorably mention ped use ! The training splits the PRs the advice are all given by people who use and admittedly so. If theres a natty goals for all lifts it will be big incentive for going to the gym. We dont want obscure online artivles we d rather take your word for it !!!

[@jimirsayssponsor5844]

Why he fuck are you making this legend stand? Give him the goddamn chair

[@lil_edo]

Motor City Pizza is the best!!

[@Peep24]

Hell ya

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you buddy!

[@mike-yp1uk]

Doing drugs to achieve your goals is in most cases the wrong idea and organ damage leads to early check out date. RIP

[@kmb957]

Young guys on steriods have a YOLO mindset. They rather lift for now instead of lifting for a lifetime.

[@jimirsayssponsor5844]

That’s the best mindset to have A day natty is a day wasted more gear = more gains fuck bloodwork eat clen snort tren lfg

[@nancyj795]

Rubish becomes the senior statesmen.

[@shaunwalker4221]

Cbum hoped on at 18

[@drip369]

📝 I'm pretty sure the lessons I will learn today are not rubbish hahaha I've also never touched the juice so this will be interesting just for informational purposes

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you for watching brother!

[@drip369]

@@PeteRubish 🤜🤛

[@tonyscaccia743]

If you abuse AAS and you come off completely, you will lose most of your gains. However, if you are a moderate user, then you come off and do PCT, you'll keep most of your gains. Drop some water weight, but your strength and newly built muscle (if done correctly), will be at a better spot than before you started AAS, which is the ultimate goal right?

[@IKI11I]

This isn’t true at all. Sure, if you do one cycle maybe. But your ability to recover will be hindered every time to run a cycle. Eventually your body will lose the ability to recover as quickly as it did. You will feel depressed, be more lethargic, gain more body fat. Cycles are STILL abuse and moreover, likely the more unhealthy way to use in contrast to moderate cycles followed by 3-6 months of trt

[@tonyscaccia743]

@@IKI11Iyeah you clearly don’t know lol. I would take some time to learn about it before saying “not true at all.”

[@IKI11I]

@@tonyscaccia743 well considering I’ve been on for 9 years similar to Rubish and that’s my direct experience… and I’m a 500 pound bencher and 800 pound deadlifter and have plenty of clients… I’d say I’d know better than you

[@brianbadonde8700]

Cassady Campbell's big brother

[@gojira444]

3:32 "whats NPPP?" oh really dude

[@VikingZeroReviews]

Is it true anavar makes your penis grow? Asking for a friend

[@j3ohnny]

His face looks like a different person off gear.

[@snuffcore9686]

Of course he felt like shit. How did he Not think he would?

[@readyfuels17]

Hell yeee

[@PeteRubish]

Thank you for the support!

[@dansmith9724]

👍

[@stoempert]

👍🏻

[@telesniper2]

TRT for life LOL. Imagine having to buy back your manhood from big pharma. LOOOL

[@blitxwhx_x]

Kids wont understand the truth about tren

[@mikecarlton2203]

Talk about a buzzkill. This dude makes me feel depressed for him.

[@I-di-nt-do-nuff-in-]

You can’t go back to natural….

[@ladev91]

Honestly, he wasn't much biggger when he was on tren

[@PeteRubish]

It was a pretty big difference, it just might not look it so much on screen.

[@jrchajrchasgscs1248]

Huge difference for sure. Bro looks like a big jacked dude right now. Back in the day he looked like he took the captain america super soldier serum 3 times a week😂

[@Craigipo]

You were not progressing as a natural. Nobody progesses as a natural. Its the cold hard truth.

[@yuckfoutube3]

What

[@andrewwright.]

you can't go "natty" after building up them receptors while slamming gear. your body is different now, face clinical facts. natty after 9 years.....hahaha don't insult Natty's.

[@2011hwalker]

yeah and also it takes its toll. You can tell this guy is wandering for meaning now.

[@jamesslone6937]

He'll be on trt by the time this podcast is over

[@oswaldofigueroa529]

Notice how no one liked your comment

[@user-ve4nn6vz4u]

His test levels came back at 500.

[@minotaur55]

Mark has hair??? wtf

[@Kshapo]

hes right about tren. be warned