Gojira - Flying Whales (Pianist continues his exploration of heavy metal)

Judson experiences “Flying Whales” by ​⁠‪@gojira‬ for the first time.
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• GOJIRA - 'Flying whales'
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[@foodforthegods]

He did not just say "sounds like something from a movie" when it was just P.I.M.P. on piano 🤣Amazing.

[@Greatmeasures]

😂😂 I don’t know what I was hearing. 🤦‍♂️

[@shryggur]

@@Greatmeasures Sounnded like some Morricone stuff to me 😂

[@sinisterkate5308]

yeah i thought that too

[@elios7623]

@@Greatmeasures it kinda sounds like a tango

[@jaydeus]

Gojira is such a phenomenonal band. Absolutely incredible live. 10/10 recommend see them at least once in your life.

[@benmacdhui]

Agreed. Saw them on their "From Mars to Sirius tour. Incredible show

[@FrankPrivette]

Yup

[@bryceharney5960]

I can back that statement. Note for note the most technically accurate show I’ve seen in person.

[@tortap]

I will second that. Gojira and Meshuggah should be on anyones bucket list

[@FrankPrivette]

Saw them in Costa Rica in November with my teenage son as they were wrapping up their world tour last year. Mastodon were opening for them and Duplantier came out for Mastodon’s last song. Unbelievable experience.

[@PhotonOrange]

One of these days Judson will motion for Richard to pause the track only to say, "Your mom". 🙂

[@troydioso3149]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@troydioso3149]

Unholy Fuck!!!! That is absolutely fucking funny. I could totally see that.

[@williamreus7697]

I believe here 6:11 Judson had intentions of saying 😂

[@showproed]

I feel like he would like Heaviest Matter in the Universe.

[@jasonadams2]

that's certainly my jam from Sirius...

[@HiroBrown]

Remember hearing Stranded and Silvera and thought they were cool. But this song is what completely sold me

[@nicolasvega2658]

ooohh, you need to listen to The Link's Widsom Comes

[@HiroBrown]

@@nicolasvega2658I’ve listened to all of their stuff but yes I need to revisit this track!

[@seantimmons5900]

Next episode - Judson reads the entire Hitchhiker's Guide series. I am on board.

[@robertpetre9378]

Mostly harmless

[@tonyi8045]

Nothing like a good trilogy in five parts.

[@larrydj549]

😴😴😴

[@TheMrChugger]

This song live is fucking amazing

[@_Davepocalypse]

Weirdly enough, Joe really doesn't like this song that much. He thinks it's weird anyone wants to hear it and thinks he comes across too preachy and hippie-ish. Like looking back at some of the stuff you used to say when you were younger and just cringing 😂

[@chicobillygoat9786]

If you are standing on the ground of a flooded Earth, and looking up through the water, it would look like the whales were "flying" above you. At least that is my take on it.

[@Hyriudragon]

Peharps Judson just need to watch a drumcam and see and fell the energy of the drummer, the technique and precision to realize how cool is double bass and, more than that, how important it is to fill the music.

[@jez_77]

I love how intrigued Judson is by Joe's lyrics, thats one of the things I appreciate the most in Gojira, too (besides the amazing music obviously)

[@seantimmons5900]

When I hear the machinegun drums, I use it as an opportunity to focus on the other instriments and how they use the backdrop of noise to enhance their sound. I can't keep focusing on the monotony, but using it as a base for other parts is where it's at.

[@Elmonator]

That is a perfect description of why it works for me as well. Thank you so much!

[@darkphoenix2]

I understand the "oof" reaction to long sections of fast double bass, but I don't always want to be comfortable when I listen to metal. That's what things like the "stank face" are about, it's a sort of natural recoil from intensity and chaos. But I don't want to recoil from it completely, I want it to flow around me, as if I were standing strong in a raging river.

[@aldersmoke1]

I agree with him. I love metal but constant double bass is the opposite of intense or uncomfortable to me. It just turns into a wash and loses its impact. It's like turning everything up to 10. There's nowhere left to go.

[@puppetmaster8551]

@@aldersmoke1ya I’m kinda with you, I really enjoy double bass but tons of super fast double bass constant double bass is probably my least favorite type of double bass

[@golgol4903]

​@@aldersmoke1 well the thing is - it wasn't "constant double bass", it was a rather short section of constant double bass. I personally hate constant double bass, it's boring and I don't find it pleasant at all but a short section of double bass within a longfer song? Sure, count me in.

[@aldersmoke1]

@@golgol4903 With regard to this song I agree, I don't think the double kick is overdone. I was speaking more generally. However Judson is relatively new to all these metal shenanigans so I can see where it would seem like too much for him.

[@qwerty.4450]

@@aldersmoke1I disagree. Songs like where dragons dwell, from the sky, esoteric surgery, the heaviest matter of the universe, mouth of Kala (among others) are some of the heaviest songs in their catalogue and they all employ constant double bass. If you want something with more sporadic double bass, ashes of the wake by lamb of god does that more

[@Olivia_Neumann]

Judson doubling down on science arguments really gives him somewhat of a Doctor Emmett Brown quality.

[@troydioso3149]

Hands down this is my favorite reaction from you two. The intellectual properties of the conversation is mindblowingly awesome. Kudos to you two!!!!!!

[@Grisu.]

Judson was talking about PRESSTERROR splittercore music, i tend to draw the line at terrorcore for the BPM.

[@Olivia_Neumann]

Thank god, he seems to be German and not Danish. Couldn’t have that as part of my country’s reputation.

[@seantimmons5900]

Well, that was some noise right there.

[@kahwigulum]

fek yea love pressterror i knew immediately who he was referring to listened to Merzbow in the old days and then tetsuo the iron man, skinny puppy, etc great stuff clowncore tho kzbin.info/www/bejne/noWaqWSEq6yZa80

[@bankerjumper]

Went into that with an open mind and left pretty quickly. I'm a drummer who loves double bass (especially the video of Gojira playing Where Dragons Dwell live where Mario goes nuts), but PRESSTERROR ain't it. Reminded me of a heavy acid trip.

[@Grisu.]

@@bankerjumper as a fan of harder music i agree its not something i like. however i do like some high bpm stuff, maybe check out Noisekick - Death by firing squad.

[@kennyw7895]

A good book about the theory of Sirius being in a binary system with our Sun is called "The Lost Star of Myth and Time" by Walter Cruttenden. The 25,000 year cycle is called precession of the equinox and it's an extremely interesting concept

[@niclastname]

13:15 There was a glitch in the matrix that revealed Richard to be a hologram! Another band that has a lot of poetic lyrics that can probably be analyzed a lot from different perspectives is Be'lakor. They're actually a little bit similar to Gojira to me. I would love to see some Be'lakor on the channel. Songs I'd suggest as starters: -Countless Skies -In Parting -An Ember's Arc -Much More Was Lost Those second 2 are part of concept albums that tell stories. An Ember's Arc is the start of a story for its album and it's about the fusion in the sun creating a photon of light, so there's no needed context other than "it continues from there". Much More Was Lost is the last song of an album, so just for context the people that the kids come across in their adventures in that song are references to victims of tragic lives in the other songs. It's about the kids losing their innocence and blissful ignorance of the sadness of the world so to speak. The album as a whole is a collection of tragic stories of people living around a mountain over time. (I'm gonna keep bringing them up until you guys check them out! haha)

[@adamhenton6221]

This will be a great one. Great choice! Hope he likes it

[@revelation8199]

We need a reaction to Heaviest matter of the universe

[@larrydj549]

The whales were too heavy... how will we ever understand the whole heaviest matter?

[@tonycuranaj3393]

Can I request Dancers to Discordant System or Clockworks from Meshuggah. Great channel

[@xXLoneDroneXx1]

Great reaction. This is the song that changed everything for me musically. Insane song, and even more face melting seeing it live.

[@animusora]

I have wanted to see Gojira live! Ive heard they are incredible!

[@donovanbriggs3650]

I have tickets for their concert with Korn in Michigan in September can't wait!!!

[@Loendt]

I saw them at Luna Park (Buenos Aires, Argentina). The band sounded incredible and the audience went crazy, there were even inflatable whales, haha.

[@jez_77]

The best metal band Ive ever seen. Ive been to their show twice and these are my top2 live shows ever, even despite arguably they had their peak around 10 years ago theyre still PHENOMENAL

[@MikaTarkela]

I saw them last year. I think I only knew 2 or 3 songs but it was probably the best gig I've ever been to. The visuals on the huge screen behind them were amazing and the music is so captivating.

[@adakell]

They're unbelievable live.

[@darrenmetal3338]

Judson needs to hear the band which is on Richard's T-shirt ! 🤘🤘🤘

[@Greatmeasures]

I agree! 🤘

[@troydioso3149]

YES!!!!!!

[@Cryptic-1-9-1-1]

Yes he does. I just got home from seeing them a couple hours ago

[@Bucketbothead007]

Awesome song, great album! When I seen them they sounded like Godzilla stomping his foot through the ceiling. Very loud, super powerful, but very clear too. Great sound that just pummeled me into oblivion. I felt their sound hitting my body. They were incredible, one of my fave concerts ever.

[@shryggur]

I had a similar issue with non-stop double bass and all. To be honest, I still don't enjoy Cannibal Corpse or such all that much. But for me the difference always was somewhere around "is it a genre thing or is it a musical thing." If it's just bashing through, start to finish, every song on the album, I'm not getting it. But if it's a color in your palette, then sure. For that matter, chunking double bass each bar is not all that different from having it all the way through, say, a chorus (especially when it's not _every_ chorus). The double bass moments of this song are the moments of the most intensity. To me, it's a little like a classical or theatrical thing. You had your chill moments, you have your intense moments. While relistening to this particular one, the structure and the intent are very much audible. That is what separates the greatest metal bands from the "genre" bands for me, whether it be Metallica, Gojira or some obscure one-album black metal act. You either give an emotion story or you don't and just bash the can. Great reaction as always tho, and the 50 Cent version was fire lol. Cheers!

[@felipegiraldo8100]

this album specifically has a very dense and drilling drumming in almost all songs, is definitely an acquired taste, but once your into it, its very enjoyable, the whole album has a very solid and consistent musicianship that fits perfectly with the topics they are talking about.

[@DemiseUnseen]

This channel is awesome, I love the juxtaposing between the two of you as intellectuals and advanced music fans. I wonder if either of you have been exposed to the genre of "Post Rock"? Thank you for sharing these experiences with the Universe.

[@VeganBro05]

Man some Russian Circles on this channel would be cool.

[@Eirath]

Love this album

[@KHMaggot67]

First time watching this channel, but that Judson guy is onto something. The lyrics in this album are full of double and triple meanings and some very abstract concepts. I recall reading years ago that the themes of the album are based on Joe’s experiences during astral projection. Their song titled “The Silver Cord” is presumably a reference to the string that is seen connecting your spirit to your body while having an out-of-body experience; or something like that. The recording studio he built in New York was then named after that song. Awesome video! 🤘🤘

[@seikenx2948]

Mars symbolises war, while sirius symbolises peace

[@martenveersoo8502]

nice

[@issacmoore1561]

"We talked about that in the Cattle Decapitation video" was definitely a line that rings different out of context

[@louiscroc12]

God I love your takes on every Gojira songs :D I wish I could grab a beer with you two and have all night long discussions about song lyrics, you always have such original and interesting views :')

[@codycornell2212]

Darkest hour! Love the reactions. Keep it up

[@void5231]

Everything from this guys is mindblowing, The way of all flesh is probably the best album i heard in my life, From mars to sirious and L'enfant sauvage are masterpieces as well!

[@Cryptic-1-9-1-1]

Obituary's cause of death album cover art is fantastic. I just got home from seeing them a couple hours ago and picked up that same shirt. Been one of my favorite albums for the past 30 years

[@oregonwoodelf]

One of my favorite songs ever!🙌🐋

[@whiteglovepc]

Mastodon - Sultan’s Curse, Tread Lightly, or Black Tongue

[@Psychograce93]

The amount of coincidences in here are out of this world. Everything Judson said and believes this song to be about I wholeheartedly agree with. I will say; I haven't personally researched or looked into the deeper meaning of this song, but I think all of what has been said rings a bell. That said, I find this song excruciatingly difficult to listen to because of its theme and/or meaning, and I'm happy Judson shone a light onto the topic, even if the song has been out for almost 20 years. On the topic of the double kickdrum pattern, I think its funny and quaint how Judson put it that it didn't mesh well with his biology, but I do think if used, sporadically, can change the dynamic of a song for the better. I think a huge tip is to expose yourself to the unfamiliarity; and how it that concept can apply to multiple things in life itself.

[@IROCZSPEED]

I've got it Richard! Decapitated- Spheres of Madness. That will help with the double bass love. There's a drum cover video somewhere of a girl in high heels doing it!

[@tropiq]

that's a solid track by itself but the drums are absolutely killer on the whole album, rest in peace Vitek

[@naturalianoss]

Drums on Day 69 are better and any song from O.H. is better

[@whiteglovepc]

@@naturalianossjust no. First 3 Decapitated albums are the only ones worth listening to

[@naturalianoss]

@@whiteglovepc O.H. is their best album ask anyone.

[@whiteglovepc]

@@naturalianoss Winds of Creation is their best album

[@johnny141093]

From Mars To Sirius would make an incredible film or video game

[@defkross]

Love these talks and analysis. On point with everything. One note on the double kick blasting, it's exhausting sometimes to listen to but it's often a necessity to take the jounery into the right place to create the proper effect. Wish I could put a guitar in his hands and make him to some gojira attempts. \m/

[@catnap2267]

The drums are fantastic in a live experience, like getting a good bit of cpr. Honestly wonder if metal is one of those genres who are just made to be experienced on a stage.

[@benmacdhui]

So my favourite Gojira album. Brilliant cover-to-cover

[@bryceharney5960]

The album this is on is one of few fantastic “cover to cover” albums I have in my library. You can never go wrong with Gojira 🤘🏻

[@laceydez]

Judson’s haircut has him lookin HANDSOME.

[@uoabigaillevey]

Never had a chance to see them live.. but the ending of this song I bet they literally 'stop' and take a step back from the mic on that last drum hit.. and I imagine the lights on the band members go 'off' for a few seconds before they start another song.. that would be amazing to see live. It's the total finality of that last note that always gets me.

[@Devilsbongo]

I think Judson is spot on with his interpretation! Joe is an amazing lyricist with his deeper messages. Hope he sees this and lets us all know what’s up!!!

[@johnladd8421]

these guys opened for Mastodon and i bought tickets to see Mastodon and they stole the show. And a brother connection with Joe and Mario makes it even more interesting. and they started really brutal and have evolved beautifully… still keeping it heavy but more melodic later on. and personally i love their concern for the earth and the damage we do as humans. kinda of metal hippie in a way. pretty cool

[@xXxeuthanasiaxXx]

The DJ you mentioned is called “PRESSTERROR”

[@Greatmeasures]

Terrifying stuff

[@TheDeadStretch]

As a huge fan of this sound and song the album Oceanic from Isis is something every fan of this album needs to listen to.

[@totalrepawns]

Gojira are getting better as they go along album wise, the last 2 album in my opinion their best work

[@TaureanMixing]

Morbid Angel was a huge influence for Gojira. The pick scrape sound attributed to Gojira came from Morbid Angel.

[@ShounenN]

I think whales in this song represent a guiding force that would lead us in the right direction if we learned to followed it. A force of nature, force of unity. But we, humans, have failed nature and forgot the way of the whale. We betrayed the way of nature. I strongly believe that Gojira didn't intend to make a simple fantasy song about flying whales since a lot of their songs have similar subjects regarding climate change and the way humans are ruining the planet and hence ourselves.

[@kahwigulum]

Gmin Dmin and Bbmaj are all related to each other. Metal guitars are usually de-tuned to drop-D, and most of the rock and blues that inspired proto-metal was in Bb, which then carried over into modern metal, so you're probably picking up on the Gmin feeling from that.

[@pragyeshtiwari8713]

Would love to see Jusdon's reaction to Opeth.

[@progperljungman8218]

Been there. (But considering his comment on liking double bass kicks only as a change, I was thinking he should revisit them)

[@tasos0140]

Agreed with Judson. Blast beats , especially elongated ones, sound to me like I'm listening to music with construction works taking place in the next building.

[@M0rket]

That's fair. For me, it's something I sometimes need. Or want. Or require. Or... crave? The difference is in the structure. Blast beats are structured, whereas construction noise is not. It's just noise.

[@haemog]

Es bacán como al principio del video Judson parte riéndose de la idea: marte, sirio, ballenas inteligentes volando... si lo que. Pero después termina el video defiendo la idea completa. XD

[@edgarrivera1733]

What a song

[@IROCZSPEED]

Been waiting on this!

[@omarjurado5214]

Time is relative, that's right to say

[@chasm9557]

If you want to get Judson to bite his teeth into another great technical metal band, why not try Car Bomb? They've toured with Gojira and Joseph Duplantier likes them enough to have done guest vocals on a couple of their songs and even produced their third album, titled Meta, together with the band's guitarist. I would personally suggest Gratitude as a good song to showcase how creative and skilled they are, and it happens to be from the album Meta.

[@spicyice2250]

I always "kinda" liked metal but never actively listened to it. Then i heard this song and was immediatly sold, then i also heard The art of dying. Holy shit dude it goes hard.

[@blaeser13]

The talk of the DJ that plays too fast got me thinking that you should do a track from Igorrr. I don't think Judson would necessarily _like_ Tout Petit Moineau @ Dour Festival 2014, but he'd probably find it interesting 😂

[@hornethive]

Maybe BARONESS - Shock Me next? I think Judson would love it!

[@ShounenN]

Ooh, now I want to hear you reacting to "Silvera" or "Amazonia" by them!!

[@AcousticHeart787]

I love this song so much and Gojira is a freakin one of the best 🖤

[@lawrencefine5020]

One of the h e a v i e s t Metal albums ever made. Gojira's best album in my opinion. "I can't believe my ears!!!" This album can destroy the biggest of speakers.

[@ab-gomes]

I got admmit that I'm not a big fan of pausing during the reaction, but I understand why

[@troydioso3149]

I watch a shit ton of reaction videos (it grew on me) but I wasn’t a fan either… but I realized that it’s someone “reacting” to a song. Needless to say I’m a fan of people’s initial reaction to a song. The pausing is essential in my opinion. It lets them convey their thoughts before they forget.😂😂🤘🤘🤘

[@whiteglovepc]

These guys don’t pause nearly as much as others and don’t talk over the music either. Which is nice

[@SirChubblesSteen]

You will one day learn to love the double bass!!! One day.

[@epicuriousgardenious205]

Hey fellas! Can I recommend a couple songs, War of Being by Tesserract and Slave by Leprous (the live version from Rockefeller music hall) Fantastic channel, just recently found it and having such a blast, keep it up!

[@gabrieldugarte9569]

I think that the next Gojira song is World To Come from that same album, Judson is going to love that song.

[@mauvrion_fries]

That constant kick represents where we're at in the story of the lyrics as well. It feels chaotic and unrelenting compared to the rest of the song, which mirrors the chaotic nature of being given these enlightened whales view of humanity and seeing how we're destroying ourselves.

[@doncarlossr.]

Yes!! Excellent guys!

[@trowabarton222]

I get to see Gojira with Spiritbox and Korn in September. I cant wait!

[@OurRawHeart]

Ooooh. Can't wait for this reaction.

[@krasmazov009]

Funny I always thought it was Mars to Sirius because there's no more Earth.

[@tobyhubler9902]

The last time Judson listened to Gojira, I commented that he would really dig Gojira. Nonstop talk about them. Soon underrated as a band in General. Step it up a notch in Metal with every album....

[@FragrantVagrant69]

Flying Pianist! :D

[@lez0n]

I love Gojira and this is one of my favorite songs. But I swear they lifted the plot from Star Trek 4.

[@Greatmeasures]

Now THAT’S one I missed! The best interpretation yet. Love it! Thank you for that.

[@akranyum5846]

i can't begin to express.... how fond i am.... of this interaction of musical genres/styles..... all i wanna say to the Pianist, who im afraid i dont really know the name, is the following: you can't even imagine the amount of micro melodies one can hide within distortion..... and u wont understand that until you go deeper, down the rabbit hole... stuff like "Sunn O)))" .... always give music a chance, all sorts of music... it's no coincidence that there are more chances of finding similarities to Rachmaninoff in Metal than any other musical genre outside classical... Anthony Hopkins composed a Waltz and is a KNOWN metalhead... Sir Cristopher Lee was a metalhead aswell, despite being a well known classical raised gentleman... Blessings upon Ye, sons of men... and give ART a chance 😁

[@acatnamedmittens2781]

I hope one day you can introduce Judson to Periphery ✌🏻 them and Gojira are my favorite bands so this is video is an absolute treat

[@marcotaf6744]

And great band to see live

[@jordanjoestar8839]

With his interests in constellations and story, play the duo "From Mars // To Siruis". He'd not only love the music, but the lyrics. Also, when Mario is doing the double bass rolls, always listen to what he is doing on the top half. He is often doing patterns and melodies on the brass, or ghost notes and accents on the snare, usually in melody with the guitars. Think of the double bass as a canvas, and the art goes on top.

[@HuLSeY18]

Amazonia next

[@Metzok]

Great song! So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!! Please do some Nevermore :)

[@regeman100]

I never knew the "lore" of the album, i always interpreted that song kind of literally. As if the singer is the person that leads the almost extinguished during flood race of humans. They travel what once was the land but now is covered in water and they look for the whales in the sky (surface of the water) as whales are often swimming near coasts. Basically story of humans trying to find the land thats left on earth.

[@buttoningbenjamin5687]

"Global Warming", the last track on this album, is one of my favorite Gojira songs. Few people ever react to it, but it should be more "well known".

[@domlaurin675]

Je suis francais iam french so ....gorguts from Québec canada there so much great band from that you probably heard...listen behond creation too

[@domlaurin675]

Mario duplantier is tight man he plays good...

[@lillzico77]

I think Judson would like more of the melodic metal. "From the inside" or "sound of the bell" by Orbit Culture. Otherwise we could to go back to the old Gothenburg sound.

[@miket2646]

when talking about blasts or trem picking etc.. I think of it more as a constant loop instead of relentless repetition. Like a chord on a keyboard sustaining without interruption

[@C17YES]

I bet Judson would like World to Come!

[@choirface]

Hidden Orchestra has an awesome track called Serpentine - sampled nature sounds mixed beautifully- you guys gotta check it out.

[@donovanbriggs3650]

Going to see them with Korn in Michigan!! Love this band

[@wrmskll]

"like what we're gonna eat later" was a good one. hehe

[@socalnitro]

Well, you found the masterpiece 🍺🤟🏻

[@toniobolonio]

Nahh that was hilarious, “and here’s a song about whales because they’re so smart!” 😂😂😂 3:52 *elbow nudge*

[@ritmovesuviano]

A suggestion! Nick Thurl Mavromatis' new song is on a whole other level. You should react to his new song! 🔥

[@mattslater167]

G minor is the "Black Sabbath" key. It's in our DNA. Also, only 2 flats, and G major is the most popular guitar composition key, so feels kinda familiar, but not too comfy.

[@Gokberks]

It would be really great if you guys could check out the bands like First Fragment, Beyond Creation, Equipoise, Obscura, Inferi, Gorod, Hannes Grossman etc. Technical Death Metal is a gem. Strongly recommended for music nerds

[@6ic6ic6ic]

Some Virvum and Carbomb too. I think imo, it's not Judson's cup of tea too much. I play piano and while I love Tech Death I find most people who play are much more into the space between notes than the notes themselves. Tech Death is, not always, mostly about technical, fast playing. Personally I'm a big fan of dissonance and dense music, stuff like Scriaben, Sorabji, and Prokofiev on the piano end of things. There's some overlap there between Tech Death and atonal/dissonant composers like them. Iirc they did do a Beyond Creation song. Shout out to the most proficient bassist to ever play. Dominic Lapointe.

[@taupinator3988]

Archspire !

[@6ic6ic6ic]

@@taupinator3988 I've seen them live 3 times! They don't miss a beat live. Believe they've done an Archspire song as well.

[@taupinator3988]

@@6ic6ic6ic I missed it, thank you. Took me time to integrate the over presence of the drums. But when it's done, a whole world is opening to you (sorry for the bad english haha).

[@6ic6ic6ic]

@@taupinator3988 It's all good. Your English is fine. There's something to be said about hearing the double kicks live too. You don't just hear them, you feel them. Spencer Prewitt their drummer is one of the best. 👌

[@morper524]

yeah, i inmediatly thought on Anatomy of a Fall ....