GoldPlanar GL1200 _(Z Reviews)_ So.. About Endgame..💎

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3 жыл бұрын

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@ZReviews
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
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@PVznPie
@PVznPie 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like sometime in the near future we'll start seeing headphones with "Power efficient / Low power usage" as marketed features 😂
@LC-yv9ey
@LC-yv9ey 3 жыл бұрын
So If I buy these headphones and GSC GX3 300-watt amplifier is that all I need? and connect the amp to my LG CX, do I really need to buy a DAC? I can't afford a DAC
@sincereace6053
@sincereace6053 2 жыл бұрын
i know it is kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?
@atticusrussell1225
@atticusrussell1225 2 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance to listen to the RAALs Z I'd love to see your review. I heard a pair recently and was blown away
@Turcoda
@Turcoda 2 жыл бұрын
Zeos, please read my comments below. You owe these another review once you bypass the converter box.
@RetroSkeleton144
@RetroSkeleton144 3 жыл бұрын
"There is no sound signature, it's just sound." Thank you Zeos, very cool.
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 жыл бұрын
My wedding vows were the same as a headphone on your desk: "To death us part ... or until I find someone better" Still together 16 years later, in case you're asking.
@dragons_advocate
@dragons_advocate 3 жыл бұрын
You need to have found someone with a special kind of humor to pull that off
@mapleaf816
@mapleaf816 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of headphones did you marry?
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragons_advocate Oh, yes. She needed a very special sense of humor to marry me. As my brother said at my wedding, not only did I find a good partner, I may have found my match.
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 жыл бұрын
​@@mapleaf816 - My wife is German so I would say the DT880 as most people wouldn't have the power to drive her.....
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaphs879 Hence my need for a wife with a special sense of humor.
@EtaParseids
@EtaParseids 3 жыл бұрын
Have only watched 7 seconds. I hear Bebop OST, I know this is going to be good.
@daveelgee2008
@daveelgee2008 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love my GL2000s. And I have stated categorically that they are the last headphones I would buy, except perhaps a Stax set-up. That was of course until I saw this review.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I did you dirty.
@bongofury3176
@bongofury3176 3 жыл бұрын
We live in a similar world Dave...
@songboek
@songboek 3 жыл бұрын
I also love the GL2000s! People should really give them the time to burn in before they judge!
@Viettzz
@Viettzz 3 жыл бұрын
Is it really that good? Better than Focal Clear? And HifiMan Arya? LCD-XC?
@daveelgee2008
@daveelgee2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@Viettzz If you are asking about the GL2000s, I would say that ever since pairing them with the XDuoo MT604 (they are power-hungry beasts and only perform correctly when given 2watts or more), I will not be looking to buy another set of home headphones (I have just purchased the Harmonicdyne Zeus for when I'm out and about). I have been in love and awe of the Stax sound for 40years and will eventually buy a pair. But following the Zeos and BGGA reviews of the GL1200s, I may just have to take a chance on them, because of the difference they bring to the sound presentation, in the same manner Stax do. I'm sure Focals, Abyss, and HiFi Man are all superb-sounding cans and are well worth the investment if that sound is your thing, but for me, for now, tubed GL2Ks are just peachy. And when I can afford it, I will first buy a Stax set up and then the GL1200s.
@jacksonville4932
@jacksonville4932 3 жыл бұрын
8:24 "we need to get to sound. Immediately" I love you
@UB3R1NV3RT
@UB3R1NV3RT 3 жыл бұрын
"We need to get to the sound". Where am I and who am I watching?
@barneyrubble9309
@barneyrubble9309 3 жыл бұрын
That Amber Rubarth album was recorded on a dummy head binaurial microphone (on Chesky records) which is why it sounds so good.
@robwilliams9965
@robwilliams9965 3 жыл бұрын
The Macy Gray album 'Stripped' is another Chesky one and also sounds soooo good!
@gonealone8614
@gonealone8614 3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE SO GOOD AT REVIEWING AND EXPLAINING you deserve more subs and likes
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 3 жыл бұрын
In this episode, Zeos becomes an audiophile. 😂
@karstdeviz3858
@karstdeviz3858 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@lax6224
@lax6224 3 жыл бұрын
SHEESH haven't been this quick since last night :)
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@ThatDarnGenius
@ThatDarnGenius 3 жыл бұрын
Z thank you for you honesty, I bought the HD650’s and HD660s because of you recommending them. And I have made a lot of money using them, because I am a mixing and mastering engineer and those bad boys kill every time. 👌🏾
@thiscorrosion900
@thiscorrosion900 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Sennheisers are better than say, AKG studios? I was just curious. I mean for mixing and mastering only.
@ThatDarnGenius
@ThatDarnGenius 3 жыл бұрын
@@thiscorrosion900 Heck yeah I actually have the AKG Studio headphones and they are not even on the same level as the 650/660’s. Not even close. I also use the Neve RNHP Headphone Amp, and it’s a match made in Heaven 👌🏾
@thiscorrosion900
@thiscorrosion900 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDarnGenius Oh my Lord! That's insane to hear. I really am shocked that AKG can't get up to the Sennheisers level, that's very disappointing to hear, honestly. I'm glad now I didn't buy a pair of those AKG Quincy Jones reference phones. Maybe those are good for sheer listening, I'm not sure. Sennheisers for the win! I have the Sennheiser Urbanite XLs and I love those damned cans! For sheer fun. I would think/hope anything Neve produces would be good. I also own the Fostex RP40 closeds and they are good monitors, but I doubt they're as good as the Sennheisers you mention.
@thiscorrosion900
@thiscorrosion900 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDarnGenius p.s. just read up on the Neve RNHP head amp, my goodness that sounds like a phenomenal amp. It's $500 flat US, and I'm sure, worth every single penny. Also it looks set up as simple as it can possibly be!
@jackjmaheriii
@jackjmaheriii 3 жыл бұрын
That is a really good idea for a thumbnail!
@kaeji_namitsua
@kaeji_namitsua 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a worthy upgrade to KPH30i.
@marksafe5463
@marksafe5463 3 жыл бұрын
Someone new to the channel: “Z reviews... what kind of reviewer is is he? Is he obsessed with the technical aspects of Audio?” Me: “ well... he once described a headphone as having sex with a three headed alien...so yeah.” 👽👽👽
@williamcatalano1762
@williamcatalano1762 3 жыл бұрын
The time he compared headphones pads as, "Two Michelin men fucking your ears..."
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamcatalano1762 I remember that! LOL! 😂
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 жыл бұрын
"My music is not worthy." OMFG zeos is the last guy on earth who would say that. He literally said always get good enough music first.
@KC-qm8cj
@KC-qm8cj 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so I ordered the GL1200s they are good. But the silver ribbons they sent me make static noises. It appears linsoul and goldplanar are about to screw me on the replacements. They are already trying to make an excuse that I didn't notify them fast enough, but I did when I first got them with no response and I just forgot until recently. Been about 3 months. They want me to send them the actual headphones so they can "repair" it. But the headphones are not the problem. The ribbons are, the gold ones work perfect. This is them trying to make it inconvenient for me to continue. Its very shady and manipulative business practice if there is no incompetence involved on the part of customer service.
@xyvyx
@xyvyx 3 жыл бұрын
would be curious how well these would work w/ a good, neutral Class-D amp based on Purifi or ncore modules. I've got a tiny ncore amp sitting here that's around the same size as my RME DAC and it'd fit into my office setup pretty well.
@32krod
@32krod 3 жыл бұрын
Just listened to that album... Reminds me of my high school jazz band days when we went to some well known guy's house with a studio set up in the living room.
@joeschwartz2636
@joeschwartz2636 3 жыл бұрын
It Beams the studio strait into your brain and blows up your synapse, But does it play Pink Floyd? Yes, yes it does!
@HiFiGOAudio
@HiFiGOAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Woah these look quite similar to HEDDHeadphones, pretty interesting!! Thanks for your review.
@SlickBlackCadillac
@SlickBlackCadillac 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like a cool way to try out different power amps without the coloration of speakers.
@martinmedrano
@martinmedrano 3 жыл бұрын
Man those are real nice headphones . Waiting to see if z will do a video on my idea about going over all his amps and dacs similar to his speaker and headphone wall.
@vsarrow5276
@vsarrow5276 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the GL2000 vid, then seeing DMS's vid. He explained that they sound compressed. When you described the room "breathing" im fairly confident that's compression, this would also explain the amount of "detail" he hears in the smaller sounds. Maybe Zeos likes compression, that's fine. HOWEVER it is NOT normally a good trait.
@TheGrelots
@TheGrelots 3 жыл бұрын
Breathing/pumping happens when attack and release are not set properly on a compressor. That simply cannot happen with acoustic “compression”. It’s just a matter of quiet sounds being louder and vice versa, no time based trickery happens.
@vsarrow5276
@vsarrow5276 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrelots I just quoted what he said, he also mentioned a deeper presence (I chose a bad quote keeping in mind what you said). I think "breathing" was used more abstractly for larger presence. Later in the vid he mentions vinyl records being a problem too since the smaller imperfections would stand out too much, like those things would be elevated also making me think some kind of compression occurring through the headphones. I don't have them and don't know the most about this stuff but I wouldn't be shocked if Zeos has a preference for compression knowing what DMS explained about the GL2000s. There's nothing wrong with that, he should enjoy those headphones, however I think taking his opinion with a pitch of sault isn't the worst idea on this one knowing about the GL2000s.
@cybergod77
@cybergod77 3 жыл бұрын
reviews by DMS and Zeos r different like night and day
@vsarrow5276
@vsarrow5276 3 жыл бұрын
@@cybergod77 for sure, it's good to have differing options around
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 3 жыл бұрын
out of all the videos on gl2000 ( like 8), DMS and guy from headphone show are the only ones who did not like them. its a conspiracy.... lol...
@bongofury3176
@bongofury3176 Жыл бұрын
The GL1200's are easily my favourite headphones. I still worship them after a year. Magic
@gnewt75
@gnewt75 7 ай бұрын
Which ribbon are you using? Did it take some burn-in time to get the best sound out of them??
@bongofury3176
@bongofury3176 7 ай бұрын
the original ribbon. I listen to them every few days. magical. no burn in at all. just instant glory. I am using a very good Quad power amp and that certainly helps. always amazed these are not talked about more often. they are still my favourites and I have plenty to choose from...happy listening@@gnewt75
@smoothwookienookie5912
@smoothwookienookie5912 5 ай бұрын
​@@bongofury3176can you compare it to any big planar like he1000/Arya? I'm considering it over he1000 stealth
@diana73654
@diana73654 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy them , but the first thing that stops me is that we cannot find even spare pads for GL 2000 yet.... What if that box needs replacement ? What if i need those velcro pads, because i like to change pads , after they look used ? Linsoul should help us with this ... just saying
@ericchang7759
@ericchang7759 3 жыл бұрын
Zeos...please review/finish your review of the Kali IN-8, that you have in the background of this video! Of course, want to hear how they stack up against the JBL lineups and Yamahas.
@DimIsHigh
@DimIsHigh 3 жыл бұрын
Z, I bought GL2000s (double magnet) a couple of months ago and if you want to, ask me anything! Happy to help gather whatever data you're gathering
@justina9914
@justina9914 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like them?
@JMAudioEditions
@JMAudioEditions 3 жыл бұрын
@@justina9914 I loves em GL2000 see my review
@justina9914
@justina9914 3 жыл бұрын
@@JMAudioEditions glad to hear. But I think I will purchase a grado first
@shadouxg7150
@shadouxg7150 3 жыл бұрын
Have u compared them to any similarly priced headphone?
@Whyamibzsdmh
@Whyamibzsdmh 3 жыл бұрын
What's your favorite cereal?
@jackyli1517
@jackyli1517 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Zeos, love your videos. If you had to choose would you purchase the GL1200 or the Focal Clear MG that you spoke highly of in a previous video? (Assuming you can only have 1 headphone in your collection). Also if you were to choose the GL1200, which speaker amp would you recommend (value being the highest considering factor). Thanks
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
Get the jotunheim r and a adapter. That amp was designed to work with this incredibly low impedance headphones. Most people say you need to spend around $4000 or more to power them as well as that does.
@johnmatheny4696
@johnmatheny4696 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zeos, I am curious which are better for gamings, and other things. The Philips x2hr, or the 38x
@LightBWK
@LightBWK 3 жыл бұрын
coming back from the audio demo, WOW.
@AliAkbar-oh5dy
@AliAkbar-oh5dy 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like my heater from my old apartment days.
@hurpdurp916
@hurpdurp916 3 жыл бұрын
The GL2000 fiasco is a bummer. I have a set and was quite unimpressed with their stock tuning, but I can't really say if that's just down to taste or if I got a "bad set." That being said they took to EQ better than any headphone I have ever owned and after much tweaking they are now what I would consider endgame level so I'm not going to complain about how they sounded out of the box. I'm super curious about these but not enough to spend the money required for their setup. I think I'm out of the game until new tech like this becomes more common and doesn't need insane shit to drive it.
@crm8769
@crm8769 3 жыл бұрын
I would love for you to send these to other reviewers
@Sunnshineforever
@Sunnshineforever 3 жыл бұрын
looking forward to de' sound demo ..don't make me wait 2long or i'll go crazy soon.. my kitty says hi to your kitty.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 жыл бұрын
So do they have bass? as if you are comparing with stax and they dont do bass and slam impact like planars and no dynamics like dynamic drivers.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
Saying 4/5 customers of the gl2000 are very satisfied doesn't say very much when the m50x still has 4.5 stars on amazon with over 25000 reviews. Same goes for most beats products. If you are not truly invested into this hobby, you're unlikely to shit on a product you bought with your own money.
@TheMemcon
@TheMemcon 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please review JTR Noesis 215RTs and Captivator 4000ULF .
@kcmichaelm
@kcmichaelm 3 жыл бұрын
The google translate app on your phone can translate those Chinese docs by just aiming the camera at them. It’s fucking magic and made my travels through Japan effortless.
@bigjay1970
@bigjay1970 3 жыл бұрын
Technology is so amazing
@we1lvideo
@we1lvideo 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please review AT MSR7 B ? Curious if they are worth upgrading from originals.
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 жыл бұрын
These or clear mg if you had to pick one?
@reflection1119
@reflection1119 3 жыл бұрын
What exactly are you cooking with Gold Planar about the GL2000? You've mentioned a few times you're "working on it"... Very curious...
@buster7618
@buster7618 3 жыл бұрын
Guessing just trying to get feedback from owners on build quality and opinions on sound. A lot of people have been having issues with the 2000's... Tons of them for sale on aftermarket
@JMAudioEditions
@JMAudioEditions 3 жыл бұрын
@@buster7618 I just ordered a second pair- first pair I love, my thought is some manufactured copies may suck... Z broke GL2000 Quality production is my guess... www.head-fi.org/showcase/gold-planar-gl2000-open-back.24993/
@buster7618
@buster7618 3 жыл бұрын
@@JMAudioEditions I really wanted to get them, but figured I'd wait until some of the hype cooled off and get a feel for QC because there were issues from the get go
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to see if there is a consensus on the QC.. Goldplanar refuses to admit anything changed from pair to pair.
@daveelgee2008
@daveelgee2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews I can only go by my pair. And they are awesome. Anyone who has tried them has called me bad names because once they have heard my GL2Ks their own headphones sound crap.
@ewcho8995
@ewcho8995 3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to review the wharfedale 12.2s?
@hugevibez
@hugevibez 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amber rubarth link in the description... ?
@Aceofsp4des7
@Aceofsp4des7 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime Zeos starts with bebop its usually a good sign.
@jonbrodie1442
@jonbrodie1442 3 жыл бұрын
I got a pair of dual magnet gl2000s and they sound amazing
@frykauf
@frykauf 3 жыл бұрын
You should review the SCHIIT amp for these. It’s not even expensive. JOTUNHEIM R MODULAR AMP FOR RAAL RIBBON HEADPHONES is $800. Also what about trying different pads on these?
@russelldawkins9094
@russelldawkins9094 Жыл бұрын
The Schiit Jotunheim R has recently dropped radically in price.
@SoberPilot
@SoberPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Guys I need Your advice please I am currently daily running my dt990 pro and I love their V shaped open back sharpest treble sound signature but now I am looking to try something new and different and i can't decide between Sundara's, DT1770 pro and hd 660s. I generally love the hugging sub bass that's why i included the 1770s as i heard it's their speciality, but i still don't know if that's really all that matters to my sound listening experience. What would you do/suggest/experience? Btw i am currently running the sennheiser gsx1000 dac/amp atm looking to upgrade it in the future, still have to find a good user friendly alternative to run speakers and headphones in a slim setup.
@JebsonofJeb
@JebsonofJeb 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Sundara
@georgeorwell7776
@georgeorwell7776 3 жыл бұрын
I have a vintage Asr emitter. I might get these, later do, just bought magnepan lrs
@dheisman21892
@dheisman21892 3 жыл бұрын
So I picked these up. At first I wasn't too sure how much I liked them when comparing them to the Clear MG. However, the more I listened to them the better they became. Velour pads are definitely the way to go. Overall these things are impressive. I see what you mean about them not having a signature or sound stage. It is just true to whatever the audio is. In terms of staging of the different frequencies..it is almost like each frequency range has this millimeter wide stage, lower frequencies being closer and higher being further. BUT they also transfer through each stage when needed. Just a very interesting delivery. For gaming audio I would recommend you specify for casual or competitive. While the imaging and staging are more than great for competitive gaming, the lows and mids tend to echo(?) causing you to not be able to hear footsteps or some of the higher frequency sounds that are often important. I guess what I am trying to say is that the lows and mids tend to envelope the sound when lots of noises are combined in gaming. I also picked up the GL2000s and didn't care for them too much. My copy had 0 sound stage and everything sounded blended together with very little separation.
@mrtomcreo
@mrtomcreo 3 жыл бұрын
Do they sound better than the Clear MG? Any other headphones you can compare it against?
@dheisman21892
@dheisman21892 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrtomcreo Better is a relative term based on preference so it would be hard to say. In terms of music listening, I like both equally. For competitive FPS games I preferred the Clear MGs a good bit more. The GL1200 were just a bit too boom imo for that. If you aren't playing completive FPS titles either could work.
@jdk_360
@jdk_360 3 жыл бұрын
Zeos asmr whispering “buy these peasant”
@anjovandijk9797
@anjovandijk9797 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tested these with the gold or aluminium ribbon drivers
@fakkness
@fakkness 3 жыл бұрын
Did you try them behind some tubes? And thanks for the review!
@hafgrim.
@hafgrim. 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using mine behind a frey plus tube pre but still have not compare tube vs none tube. The tubes tame my raals a bit. tube amps with enough power for these would cost around 4-5 grand.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I would need to Tube-Pre a Solid State amp. I have those 8wpc Tsaksaridis amps so I don't know if they would push.
@tassadarforaiur
@tassadarforaiur 3 жыл бұрын
Could solaris raw dog it without power amp? Claims 12wpc at 220r in otl mode, and has speaker out
@marcstate2295
@marcstate2295 3 жыл бұрын
@@hafgrim. 8 grand....'Manley Snappers' are the answer.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@hafgrim. do you agree with zeos's concensus on these headphones? You are like one of 5 people I've ever seen that own this, so a second opinion would be massively appreciated.
@elliotparnell7805
@elliotparnell7805 3 жыл бұрын
Z you forgot the gemstone 💎
@granfiesta5749
@granfiesta5749 3 жыл бұрын
Zeos can I use the Bas X A-100 you made me buy? Also u fked up by not testing this why Zeos why
@circattle
@circattle 3 жыл бұрын
that looks like the headband from the Quad ERA-1.
@heavyharmonies
@heavyharmonies 3 жыл бұрын
Had these for just under a week now. They are all that and more... and that's just driving them with an old Denon AVR-2807 Receiver (110 wpc x 7). The volume on the receiver is damned near max (-1 db volume level, which is stupid high). I tried a Carver M-1.0T 2-channel amp through the Denon's preamp outs, but that was actually a step backwards both in sound quality and volume level... which is odd. One area where I differ from both Zeos and Resolve, is that I MUCH prefer the perforated leather pads to the veleur. To me, the veleur pads deaden the sound and roll everything off. Not sure if it's my 55-year-old ears, or the difference in preamp/amplifier, but the veleur pads are a no go. I intend to do some amp rolling... which sadly is more expensive than pad rolling.
@Srpskitiesto
@Srpskitiesto 3 жыл бұрын
So you really think they are better than the Stax L700? I wanted to buy them for years since you praised them and I heard them at an audio show and was blown away. Now you are making my life very complicated :)
@nataliezementbeisser1492
@nataliezementbeisser1492 3 жыл бұрын
I will do anything for GoldPlanar GL1200 headphones
@ywsx6489
@ywsx6489 3 жыл бұрын
7:20 the chinese words loosely translates to: Red text: * Pay special attention to this shit buncha text beside the arrows: when replacing the diaphragm, please pinch the two sides indicated by the arrows, gently pull out(when removing) or push in(when installing new piece) the diaphragm. Last buncha text: don't f*ckin touch the parts within the blue rectangle. It is easy to cause deformation that is not covered by warranty. Btw that is alot of connectors and solder joints in the signal path from amp to headphone.
@Terra101
@Terra101 3 жыл бұрын
Did they actually swear or just for the luls?
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 жыл бұрын
@@Terra101 luls.
@albertorobinson7611
@albertorobinson7611 3 жыл бұрын
I like the series fft and cheers
@Level42Man
@Level42Man 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if these will work on the dedicated Schiit amp designed for the Raal's ?
@Motymott99
@Motymott99 3 жыл бұрын
Review the denon d9200 !!
@frykauf
@frykauf 3 жыл бұрын
Sessions from the 17th ward - is like the case for DSD (like any dsd, even the lowest one).
@misterMusicify
@misterMusicify 3 жыл бұрын
Got a few questions for you: Let me start by saying that I design ribbon headphones as a hobby. I've tried the RAAL, and left unimpressed, partially because in their load box somewhere, they essentially have a low pass filter. They have a low pass filter because they need to prevent too extreme excursion from the ribbon, as they use a folded ribbon as their drivers. Too much ribbon excursion, common in extreme bass heavy songs, results in the de-corrugation and tensioning of a corrugated/folded ribbon like the RAAL uses. And from what I gather, the Goldplanar also uses a folded ribbon. If that's the case, you can see this by looking at the ribbon itself, it will look zig zaggy. One question I have is: does the goldplanar have a bass filter too? Or does it use some other method to prevent de-tensioning of their ribbon. Secondly, I'm wondering about the frame of the headphones. One thing I've realized, in working with ribbons, is that you 'feel' subbass, even though the driver isn't exactly creating it. The ribbon itself is between two magnets, and the flow of current through it is what gets us the sound response. But in many cases, the cable used to send current through the ribbon is adjacent to the driver, on the other side of one of the magnets. In many cases, this cable is bolted tight to the magnet, because if it wasn't, it'd vibrate freely (for the exact same reason why the ribbon itself vibrates, as the same current flows through it). But attaching it to the magnet or the frame to prevent free vibrations essentially causes the frame itself to vibrate, resulting in, for many ribbon users, an odd, inexplicably, yet sometimes satisfying subbass response through the frame itself vibrating. Do you observe such a thing in the Goldplanar? I have no questions about mids and treble, because even the worst ribbons can create beautiful mids and treble, but the bass will always be wonky in my experience. If you listen to a complex bass heavy song, with very heavy bass as well as clearly audible mids or highs, I'm wondering if you notice any sort of odd phasing with the bass. In my experience with ribbons, if a ribbon is allowed to have strong bass, and strong excursion by implication, in many cases the high bass excursion physically moves the driver at the same frequency as the bass, sometimes excursing the driver enough to seemingly change the 'origin' of the sound, resulting in perceived volume oscilliation at a frequency similar to that of the underlying bass. I'm not sure if you've noticed any such thing. It doesn't happen on the raal because of their aggressive, even too aggressive filtering of bass. You can test this by playing whatever music you usually play, but also play a loud 10 or 20hz tone alongside it, and if you can hear the perceived audio volume being modulated by the bass frequency, that confirms it occurs. If you do indeed find such a thing, that's not entirely bad. In many headphones I've designed, including a ribbon design that I hope to publicize along with 3d printable parts soon, I don't corrugate the ribbon at all, and instead use elastic to allow for extreme excursion without the risk of de-tensioning. And in my tests of these designs, I can clearly hear this bass modulation, as well as subbass response through a frame vibration (not to mention that the high driver excursion makes it so that you can actually feel the bass 'breeze' on your ears from the driver motion), and these sound 'artifacts' do serve to make it sound a lot more fun and interesting, though of course not as clinical as the raal.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
What comments can you make about the fragility of these ribbon tweeters? Both the gl1200 and raals can allow the removal of the drivers without any disassembly, and raal sells their replacement. Gold planar as of now doesn't, so I am very concerned about how long a headphone that costs $1400 is supposed to last. I guess that's the risk of going the Chinese ghetto root.
@misterMusicify
@misterMusicify 3 жыл бұрын
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 First of all, these aren't actually ribbon tweeters. They're corrugated to the point that they can create good, albeit relatively quiet, low frequencies. I'll say that for the most part, ribbons are probably the most delicate of all. Holding the device wrong and accidentally push your finger into the ribbon. It'll snap in half. Whereas a dynamic driver, you can throw around with no consequence, and planars are pretty resilient too (though I've seen catastrophic planar failures where the magnets get un-stuck from the frame and rip through the diaphragm), and of course electrostatics are pretty delicate, but not as delicate as ribbons. That said, as long as a ribbon is handled with care, you probably won't break it. They may get de-tensioned if you accidentally lightly press on one, which is pretty bad and can ruin the sound quality. But as long as you keep your fingers away from the driver, they're safe. As for replaceability, Raal certainly does make it easy by selling extra drivers. That said, if you've got some technical knowledge, you can make your own ribbon drivers. In fact, ribbons are probably the easiest and cheapest drivers to DIY, as all you really need is some thin aluminum foil (maybe 15 - 10 microns or less if possible), and maybe some gears or a toothpaste crimper to corrugate the ribbon. (Second easiest, surprisingly enough, would be electrostatic, which just need mylar, proper tensioning, and a 'conductive dust' to create your own driver).
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@misterMusicify ok I really appreciate the such a detailed response. My general fear was not just from catastrophic failure like any other speaker designe when pushed to hard, but them simply wearing down over time (like they have a shelf life), and will eventually just stop working, which generally doesn't happen to dynamic or planar headphones for several years and somtimes decades.
@Emira_75
@Emira_75 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using metric :)
@frykauf
@frykauf 3 жыл бұрын
There’s also the Precide Ergo AMT.
@x32i77
@x32i77 3 жыл бұрын
Do you liked them more than meze Empyrean ?
@oooppiikkk
@oooppiikkk 3 жыл бұрын
is there no reason to make all headphones terminate in a single wire?
@dragons_advocate
@dragons_advocate 3 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I recognize the Godzilla 1998 soundtrack at 13:03 ? Probably because I am one of 13 people that liked that one. Also, that particular song is great.
@LC-yv9ey
@LC-yv9ey 3 жыл бұрын
So If I buy these headphones and GSC GX3 300-watt amplifier is that all I need? and connect the amp to my LG CX, do I really need to buy a DAC? I can't afford a DAC
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you need a dac. These are enormously transparent. Anything less than $500 is simply going to have to much compression to get the most out of these. Though I have to ask why you can’t afford that, but can afford a $1400 headphone. I don’t think these are right for you.
@simonkonglo
@simonkonglo 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with ChiFi is not the sound quality as it seems obvious that they copied RAAL. But rather 2 years from now, you cannot find the manufacturer when you google it. Warranty is meaningless, if it was $300 I would try them right away, but at $1400 I am not willing to take that risk.
@relaxwithastra5966
@relaxwithastra5966 3 жыл бұрын
Have you manage to listen to it? If not you should. It cost only $1100.00 direct from Taobao
@bigjay1970
@bigjay1970 3 жыл бұрын
Monitor audio gold speakers used to use that type of ribbon Tweeter and you can literally hear in piano music the person pressing down on the pedals that's how revealing they are! Unfortunately aluminum sandwiched magnesium style woofers sounded like a metal stainless steel ball going around a roulette wheel that's also stainless steel! A bit too much for my liking.🤔🙄🤫
@MazeFrame
@MazeFrame 3 жыл бұрын
The internals of the speaker-tap box is not confidence inducing. Also has PCBs and wires flopping in the breeze...
@TheCIScommander
@TheCIScommander 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get this or 50 KPH30is?
@frykauf
@frykauf 3 жыл бұрын
Move over stax, there’s a new "box with headband“ in town.
@djredhareaus38
@djredhareaus38 3 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for wireless ear buds I have skull Candy sesh and the sound is bad and the battery life sucks
@Dubst3pT3ch
@Dubst3pT3ch 3 жыл бұрын
Samsung galaxy buds+ they're fairly good quality in build and sound. Stuck with SBC or AAC codec unfortunately. But battery life I've yet to run out in a day of listening. I can wear them at work and charge them at break and still last long into the night.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly when it comes to ear buds just using normal earbuds with a BTR5 or BTR3K will be the best you can get. If you really need true wireless Z usually just points out a Bluetooth MMCX device instead of anything in particular. True wireless is a messy area as Bluetooth itself is messy between brands.
@mrsushi1192
@mrsushi1192 3 жыл бұрын
The dms audience is gonna come for your head zeos, lock your doors and close your windows...
@tedtimmis8135
@tedtimmis8135 3 жыл бұрын
Nice headphones but the box and the need for a speaker connection seems like a lot of work.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 жыл бұрын
Like my Apogee Scintillas..for my head😆
@seaeroed
@seaeroed 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm...that pattern on the pad can cause headache/trigger bad memory for a lot of programmers😅
@taimurjamil4790
@taimurjamil4790 3 жыл бұрын
From the build and design, these are basically ULTRA INSTICT DT-150s!
@Bl4ckWarHawk
@Bl4ckWarHawk 3 жыл бұрын
You can install Google translate to your phone and use that to translate the chinese manual. Works via camera, kinda jank but its better than nothing
3 жыл бұрын
AMbers 17th ward is a binanurad recorning. Phenomenal album. Wish You put song Strive on your demos
@SamCampbell
@SamCampbell 3 жыл бұрын
The mouse pad link doesn't work
@ordici_
@ordici_ 3 жыл бұрын
How would they compare to the Abyss 1266 or DIANA?
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
More aggressive and soulful.
@r4lfaglipa
@r4lfaglipa 3 жыл бұрын
Zeos do the Surfans F20 Review ^^
@DefiantAML
@DefiantAML 3 жыл бұрын
How do these connect to the amp?
@hamedshahr
@hamedshahr 3 жыл бұрын
The impedance of these is only 0.1 ohm. Don't know anything about ribbon drivers, but I usually prefer higher impedance because it's easier for the amp to deliver voltage than current.
@omerkeidar95
@omerkeidar95 3 жыл бұрын
You have a box full of resistors I think it'll be fine
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why you get the conversation box. Did you even listen?
@hamedshahr
@hamedshahr 3 жыл бұрын
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I know. I didn't ask how to connect it to the amp. The thing is, it seems like these are the opposite of electrostatic headphones. While they have hundreds of volts and almost no current, these things must have dozens or even hundreds of ampere with little voltage.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamedshahr they are. They need 13 amps and almost no voltage. Luckily the jotunheim r amp does that better than any other amp that I've ever heard (for raal's anyway) through a conversation box and that is the size of a normal jotunheim and costing only $700 (considering what it is, that is absurdly cheap). Though for the gl1200 you will need an xlr adapter.
@marcstate2295
@marcstate2295 3 жыл бұрын
I know that ribbon tweeters are SUPER fragile...and if you so much as blow on them hard they will break...no joke. I bet that is what the paper box around the ribbon is for
@aerofart
@aerofart 3 жыл бұрын
Will these allow me to hear aliens from Uranus?
@SLiPiEiFy
@SLiPiEiFy 3 жыл бұрын
Fckkkkk, I bought it and its sooo fucking good!
@matthuston1767
@matthuston1767 3 жыл бұрын
i bet my vintage Japanese Nikko amp would be a great match.
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 3 жыл бұрын
need to fix mine.. nikko amps are awesome
@matthuston1767
@matthuston1767 3 жыл бұрын
Which do you have? I have only alpha 220 stack but I love the sound. I just need it recapped but still use it daily. I hope it’s not a ticking time bomb.
@Turcoda
@Turcoda 2 жыл бұрын
After 6 months of owning these I want to change my review... 1) Buy the Nemal Raal to 4 pin XLR adapter plug AND 2) Buy the Raal converter box OR 3) Buy the Schiit Jot R and what you get is basically an open back, rather than an open baffle, Raal Sr1a. The tonality and detail is mostly just like Raal's and SIGNIFICANTLY different than the GL1200 with the stock converter box. It really sounds like an entirely different headphone once you stop using the GL1200 converter box. The converter box has a crazy amount of EQ and it doesn't do a very good job. Its just a resistor array and is not tuned all that great. At the very least, the sr1a converter box is WAY more detailed. Not saying you should buy this over the SR1A, but this is a more comfortable option. Id stick with Raal if you favor quality and detail, but the comfort of the Raal leaves a lot to be desired. The Chinese 100% tried to copy Raal with this product, and didn't do a very good job with the converter box because, in terms of detail and transient speed, it leaves a bit to be desired. However, the box can be bypassed and what they did right was the housing... the spaciousness and comfort on these is quite good. If you want pure quality with these, just bypass the converter box OR buy the Jot R. Simple solution. Zeos seems to like thick, bassy and warm sound, and the EQ in the GL1200 converter box adds a lot of warmth to the audio, but its not super great at what it does. Another thing this does better than the Raal is to position the driver's sweet spot RIGHT OVER YOUR EAR. I cannot stress enough how much of a factor that is with ribbons. The raal headphone sounds amazing mostly only when you find that glorious sweetspot, however this one sounds amazing ALL the time. There is a 3rd option to bypass the converter box and that is to buy the Raal HSA 1B amp, but its also $4k and offers diminishing investments on your return. However, since Zeos is comparing these to stax, its only fair if you factor in costs of electrostatic amps required to run stax, and that runs you up to near HSA 1B pricing if you opt for the gold standard in solid state amps, the KGSSHV.
@LC-yv9ey
@LC-yv9ey 3 жыл бұрын
will I need a DAC too or just the amp?
@relaxwithastra5966
@relaxwithastra5966 3 жыл бұрын
Do you already have a music player if no then you need to have a DAC that either stores music or convert them from PC or phone. Depends on your current player if it's a windows PC it could sound pretty bad straight out form the 3.5mm. So you probably need a DAC. My setup is low cost but works. Ifi Zen DAC only $150, Aiyima A7 Amp $59.00. that's it
@shib2779
@shib2779 2 жыл бұрын
what is the song playing in the beginning?
@relaxwithastra5966
@relaxwithastra5966 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to Z. Z is the end of the alphabets and it's the last review you should listen to. I took a step of faith and bought this set. Noooooooo regret. Couldn't find any fault to the sound quality. It gets even better after burn-in. Tried Hedd, the GL850, tried the HD800s, ATH1000, the ZMFs and still feel something is missing... Until GL1200... Thank you Z.
@bongofury3176
@bongofury3176 2 жыл бұрын
yeah man - 7 months in and still blowing me away every time...
@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING
@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING 3 жыл бұрын
I love Punch Man 15:57 my favorite part of this whole review and yes I watched this whole vid
@anjovandijk9797
@anjovandijk9797 2 жыл бұрын
was planning buying these gl1200s until you mentioned not recommend using these for listening to vinyl :(
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Now I don't know why I would say that. I have those up on my desk and Vinyl would be fine. Odd.
@anjovandijk9797
@anjovandijk9797 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews around 28:08 / 28:15 Quote: cause every pop and crack and crackel and f#kin wave you cant listen to vinyl with this you puke 🤔
@theodorezurla496
@theodorezurla496 3 жыл бұрын
Can I connect that metal box to my THX 789/smsl su9???
@corbinchristensen1555
@corbinchristensen1555 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, no
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
No, they where never designed for current this high. Would literally melt it. Get a jotunheim r.
@dominicgreen115
@dominicgreen115 3 жыл бұрын
My GL2000 have been absolutely butter... I think they need more power than some are giving them. Not amazing on my topping dx7 pro but absolutely sing on my ifi idsd sig with the magic buttons on.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely my first headphone where amping actually was actually noticeable. Even with my Ether CX I couldn't tell between using my phone, BTR5, or SMSL SP200. These though sound way better on the SMSL and sound really compressed on the phone. Weirded me out.
@JebsonofJeb
@JebsonofJeb 3 жыл бұрын
im surprised it sounds not amazing on a $700 amp/dac, especially a topping. Wonder what would be a good upgrade from my Atom for the GL2000. Considering a Jotunheim but people say they sound great on ifi sounds sig.
@treyk9073
@treyk9073 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a pair
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