GOLF: Right Arm Move To Release The Club On Plane - The "Window" To Success

[@jrcaxtro]

One of the biggest things i appreciate and admire about Eric is his humility to team with other instructors and allow himself to become the student. Other instructors sound condescending when speaking about other teachers and their methods. Eric doesnt do that...appreciate it man...keep it up

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate the kind words and support, Rafael!

[@jackmuratore9424]

Eric, I watch all of your videos. In fact, I watch a lot of golf videos. This video addressed an area that is often not discussed. You're doing a lot of great work and appreciate you sharing the knowledge.

[@pelligolf2395]

Jack Muratore thanks for watching. Keep us updated on what you learn from this and how it applies to your game

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for being with us, Jack!

[@kapapatence6423]

As someone who has always struggled with pulls, this is golden.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thank you!

[@trunkten31]

Thank you Eric for your explanation of the right arm being lower than the left. Ive been a caddie for 30 years. Ive been playing golf as long. You have helped my game with wrist angles and explaining how and WHY better than anyone Ive ever listened to. I feel like I owe you for lessons brother! Best teacher in golf today! Thank you for all your help.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate that my friend-very kind of you! Its my pleasure...thanks for being here with me!

[@soldado2027]

Awesome video went immediately to conduct the drill. Was hitting way right as stated in the beginning but after a few swings was hitting straighter. This drill also helped me realize what a proper release feels like and I'm having better contact as well.

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent, Jairo! Glad to hear that....hope it continue to help!

[@migbgold3191]

Great topic and for someone like me who misses with a hook, a great fresh way to reinforce the concept of keeping a stable clubface. Reminds me of how Lee Trevino looks through and past impact.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks! Agreed....someone who hooks (and doesnt want to miss left) this can be a HUGE game changer!

[@pelligolf2395]

Glad to hear it helped

[@jimt7292]

This series of hooking up with 'top tier' teachers from various states is just excellent! And again, another tip that I never learned from lessons taken from local instructors outside of Buffalo NY...meant with no disrespect to local golf instructors :)

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for watching my friend!

[@Dreama40]

So essentially you're holding your impact position post impact for as long as possible in the follow through to keep the club face square to the path as opposed to flipping and closing the face to the path, makes perfect sense. Reminds me of the square to square swing. I've been trying this out with really good results i must say, to me i focus on having a blocking action(feel) with good rotation on the follow through, hitting good solid on target shots and no pulls or slices, Ben's right it's hard to hit it left with this follow through. Great video Eric.

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it! Sounds like its perfect for your current pattern!

[@jasonking9395]

One of the easier to understand coaches on KZbin. Your explanations of the different feels really help, awesome content Eric 👍🏻

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Jason! Appreciate that my friend!

[@marktizard7273]

Hey Eric great to see a person as good as you be excited about a move that could help many golfer, keep that enthusiasm never stop learning

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Mark! Ben is great-we were happy to work with him!

[@Badfinger4]

A lot of those positions made me think of Zach Johnson. As a person who has struggled mightily for years with hitting it left, I'm excited to try these drills out.

[@pelligolf2395]

Dave thanks for watching. I was able to work for Mike Bender for a number of years and saw ZJ in action do this very thing

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope it helps, Dave!

[@jimyoung6490]

Zach Johnson is exactly who I thought of when I watched Eric's follow through during this drill. I have been fighting being a hooker for years. Can't wait to try this drill!

[@aneelmadhavannair7851]

I see the edge of the club face similar to the spine angle and the shaft in line with the right forearm when the right elbow is below the left creating the window. Amazing and I am going to try this the next time I pick up my clubs to get the feel and see how easy it's for me to release rather than what i do currently

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope it helps my friend!

[@kevinpogue3670]

Golfers spend a lot time trying to look at a video to fix their swing. You have the magic answer on this video. Eric, I gotta tell you I watched this video today and another swing video where you talked about the wrist cocking down on the take away. I decided to try it at the course. This is the piece of the swing I’ve been trying understand what I should be feeling and doing. I usually shoot 8-9 over. Today I shot 3 over just because of me executing the move. My ball flight was perfect. I was fading the ball all year and couldn’t figure it out. Today beautiful draws. Along with gaining my distance back. Thanks for sharing this video it helped me a ton. I rotated and held it all day. KUDOS to you excellent job!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Kevin! Appreciate the kind words...glad it helped!

[@pelligolf2395]

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[@westrover123]

just come back from the practise ground, hit wedge and 7 irons and it is the VERY first time I have not hooked a ball. Every ball was either straight or a slight fade. Will try with the long irons and woods later. Love it.

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent! Glad to hear it helped, John!

[@paneraiatheart5925]

One of the best videos ever.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it!

[@bretwells7487]

Great video eric! You provide professional expertise and i like how you have teamed up with other instructors. Your channel has made a lot of improvements to my game.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Bret! Appreciate you my friend! Thanks for being here!

[@krishalsrud2210]

Brilliant brilliant brilliant! Such a great video to conceptualize the role of the hands/wrists in the swing.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Kris! Appreciate it...Ben is awesome! We have some more good videos coming shortly with him!

[@jamescraven1781]

Great session! My coach has been getting me to work on this and your video really helped me better understand what he’s trying to get me to do. I would like to see a video as to what happens next with the hands and arms in the follow-thru. Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey James! Thanks for the feedback. Great idea....we wanted to film a video on that (finish) but didn't get it it that day...hopefully next time!

[@davidtheobald502]

Starting out as a tennis player where you want to rotate right forearm to apply top spin this concept has plagued my golf game for a long time. I’ve found that strong grip + aggressive forearm rotation yields in a shank which was surprising. Great video!

[@pelligolf2395]

David Theobald thanks for watching. I have seen that miss before. Hopefully you can educate that left wrist

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, David! Hope you're moving in the right direction... Strong grip should definitely be much more passive (in general) with release pattern

[@davidtheobald502]

Eric Cogorno Golf definitely heading the right direction, thanks to your videos. Working my way down from a 7 hdcp - trying get to a 5 in 2020

[@johnmango6056]

I dont want to swear but u are a f*&^%^g legend with this one!!! Ben just explained exactly what i have been doing wrong my entire life. i've been releasing my right arm completely wrong with my driver. this has turned me into a new human!!! i went from spraying it 250 with a duct hook and a push slice to smashing it 270-280 dead straight or a baby fade in 3 days. i can't even explain how much better my balance got just from releasing the club right. idk why i could never translate my iron swing to my driver but clearly this was it. i was able to release the club subconsciously with my iron without know it. now my irons are just out of control. i gained 5-10 yard with each club after now consciously being able to release my irons. THIS IS THE BEST INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO ON KZbin FOR THE GOLF SWING! THAT RELEASE IS GOLD!

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent! Love to hear that...Ben is great! I'm sure he will love to see this :)

[@JasonBreeland]

Hey Eric. Since you promote filming your swing, I think it would be helpful to see how you analyze your swing. For example; your swing at 9:30 would be good to see in slow motion and then hear your thoughts on what you're looking at and if you're happy with those 3 points or if you need to make more adjustments. Great video!

[@CogornoGolf]

Great idea, Jason! I will put that on the list for future ideas! Would be fun....I will need to practice some more first :)

[@bring156]

This is such a game change but really one of the hardest things to master. All the pros do it. One key to remember is to do this properly is you have to shallow the club in the downswing 1st

[@CogornoGolf]

YES! Definitely more advanced but like you say once you learn to get the club path correct from inside and get face square or closed to path enough THEN you can add in these parts really as last step to not OVER curve left

[@ciegoecw]

Yet another great video. I think we are all so used to seeing great players release the club and watching the right forearm "roll" over the left...is it just that this is happening later than we thought? It also seems like working on this will help with early extension/posture/spine angle? Looking forward to getting to the range and testing this out! That release point where you talk about the "window" has me instantly thinking of Spieth...

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, man! Hope it helps!

[@roliver7773]

Great visuals. This is a wake up call.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks! Make sure you get the face in order beforehand and this can work great!

[@pelligolf2395]

I appreciate you taking time to watch. Hope it helps

[@roliver7773]

@@pelligolf2395 Fighting hanging on to the club. Big high slices. Any recommendations?

[@pelligolf2395]

R Oliver probably more a pivot issue then a release issue

[@marcuscrossett2658]

simply excellent Eric and Ben

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Marcus! Appreciate the kind words!

[@danielleblanc8032]

These two guys together make some dope content!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Daniel! Ben is great!

[@jimyoung6490]

Eric, this video, and the concept of keeping the right/trail arm lower than the left/lead arm is really helping me control my hooking problem (especially with the longer clubs). My problem is that I lost it on the range last night and could not get it back. What are a couple of key check points I can go to when this happens? Looking for ways to fix myself when things go bad on the course and/or range. Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Jim! Glad to hear its helping! Unfortunately there simply are TOO many variables for me to give YOU specific advice for YOUR issues coming up. I would need to know more and see a video of your swing. If you dont get it sorted and can get to Ben for a lesson that would fix this or check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and I can give you specific advice there!

[@gregcalhoun9151]

Thanks for this drill. I seem to make very solid contact but always pull hook. This should help me stop being right hand dominant

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure, Greg! Hope you get it sorted!

[@derkaderka4017]

Great instruction and a powerhouse of a team! Thank you! And Happy 2020!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it-you as well! Ben is great!

[@albertbadal4425]

I have started playing so much better since I started watching your videos. I can't thank you enough. A question: I have double jointed elbows and that causes a lot of deviation in my swing. Have you encountered similar situation with your students? Essentially, if I put my palm of hand on the table, my elbow can rotate 180 and elbow can move forward and backward.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Albert! Thanks for the message and the kind words my friend. I have not really had much experience with that....maybe best to get with someone in person who can help guide.... I would be able to help guide if I could see videos, but still not sure on double jointed elbows part

[@albertbadal4425]

@@CogornoGolf Thank you sir.

[@waltdv]

Great instruction. I saw immediately that I'm coming through impact with left tilt - right arm over left. I was making poor contact with the drill until I focused on a full shoulder turn at the top and right wrist hinge - that resulted in a very clean and effortless impact, maintaining right tilt and rotation, with the club on plane.

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent-thank you Otto! Happy to hear you're heading in the right direction and appreciate the kind words!

[@jimyoung6490]

Otto, was this causing you to hook and was it a case of where the longer the club the bigger the problem? Trying to find others who have the same issues as me. Thanks!

[@waltdv]

@@jimyoung6490 My miss is left for sure. What I found is that I wasn't clearing my lead hip. With no room to lower my shoulder and drive through I tend to stand up (goat humping) get really tall with my handle, and flicky with the club. I've been getting good results working on clearing the lead hip and feeling like my chest and trail shoulder are aimed at my lead foot on the downswing.

[@atl_e]

Victor Hovland is a great example of this. One of the most stable club faces through impact

[@pelligolf2395]

E he’s a good example, Justin Rose and CHIII would also be good examples

[@bjornhansson8172]

E And Mr. Fleetwood! Great swing!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hard to argue with those swings! :)

[@brentmundie]

I've been taking lessons from Ben this year!

[@pelligolf2395]

Brent Mundie 💥

[@CogornoGolf]

Smart man, Brent!

[@lewisgl]

I really like the idea, but might be problematic for folks who have an open club face issue at impact, such as in my case. I am working on the open club face issue, seem to be making some progress and am hitting some pretty big pulls at times. Will definitely try this out. If the open club face is still an issue, will probably find out pretty fast with this.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Gary! Thanks for the message. 100% you need to get clubface in order..if you watch any of my previous videos you know I say that a million times :) You for sure need to fix your open clubface before you do ANYTHING else Heres some more info on that kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ-yfKdoqsifiNk kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqObe4lsiM2giKs

[@pelligolf2395]

Just remember you can’t square it to early with the left wrist if the ball starts to far right

[@CogornoGolf]

Thats a good way to say it, Ben!

[@klausklaus9112]

thx eric , thx ben ... FANTASTIC VIDEO ... ! always knew that was something there ... every time i would pull my left shoulder up at address and keep it higher thru the swing no more hooks ... now i'll just focus on the right elbow staying lower ... hmmm ... christmas came a few days late this year ... :) :) :)

[@CogornoGolf]

Haha our pleasure! Appreciate you being with us and I hope it helps!

[@johnmango6056]

SERIOUSLY MAN! ive never known i was doing this wrong now all of a sudden i can rip my driver for the 1st time ever

[@cheeks9596]

Really enjoyed the video and will use the concept going forward. The older golfer was taught just the opposite..

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Jay! Appreciate you being here...hope it helps!

[@3253222]

Another lesson you presented talked about supination of the lead forearm. Is this different?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Yes. MORE supination would be good for those who miss too far to the right (for a right handed golfer). Here this video you can see we mentioned this is more for players who miss left and want to eliminate left (for right handed golfer.) There will alway be supination. No matter what. Add MORE if you need the ball to go more left, add LESS if you need it to go less left.

[@xJae14x]

I think one of the most confusing things about the release in golf is whether to use wrist flexion and extension or radial and ulnar deviation. Or a combination of all of them. I find ulnar/radial deviation to make my swing flippy and inconsistent. I’m working on building my swing where my only conscious right wrist movements are extension on the backswing and flexion way after impact. This video feels very much like what I’m trying to accomplish. Is there anything wrong with trying to eliminate conscious ulnar and radial deviation in the swing?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Jae! Of course the KEY words in here are "conscious". Every swing has radial on way back and ulnar on way down. Every one to varying degrees. Cannot get rid of it. BUT....do you need to THINK about it? Of course not.....depending on what you currently do. There will be ulnar, supination and wrist going from flat/flexed toward extension in late downswing for all players (to varying degrees depending on grip, swing direction ,body orientations, etc. I can help much more if I could see your swing on video

[@gellesa]

Loved this one. Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it! Our pleasure!

[@pelligolf2395]

Thanks for watching 🤜

[@vchan52226]

Is he advocating left hand release like a pullung action as compared to right hand release pushing action? This will encourage in to out swing resulting s draw and if dont do it probably with end up push or push slice if early extend.

[@pelligolf2395]

Victor Chan thanks for watching. I would say neither a push or pull. It’s an active pressing out (ulnar deviation) of the lead wrist. To limit the curve you need to add the pivot aspect to keep the club moving left. Good observation.

[@dementus420]

I naturally don't roll the club, but with my irons, I struggle with hitting them straight right. So, I will attempt to more aggressively release my left wrist through impact. Hopefully, I can sort it out that way.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the message Oliver... Yes, that may help. I would also ensure you have a strong enough grip and your wrist conditions (not cupped with left wrist) during backswing and initial downswing Then you can add lead arm supination as needed. I would check them in that order. If I could see your swing I could tell you in 2 seconds...if you cant sort it out check out cogornogolf.com and we will fix that for you

[@CogornoGolf]

This may help kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmnbnayfn6qbY8k

[@dementus420]

@@CogornoGolf thanks a lot Eric. I'll definitely give that a shot and I will see about sending you my swing.

[@scottharmon5583]

Good stuff as always. But I had just watched another video where you talk about keeping your right hand facing the ground coming into impact, and am thinking it is impossible to square with "keep your right arm under your left." What am I missing?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Scott! Thanks for the message and kind words. I would say in that video I was presenting a different style of release. Both can work. IT depends on what your grip style is, club face angle, swing direction, etc. I would have to see a video of your swing to say what would work best for you!

[@timgolder2607]

Wow, crazy good instruction Eric!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Tim! Appreciate it...Ben was awesome!

[@KevenSandoval]

I’ve always instinctively released like this with a very strong grip and I hit it very straight but I sometimes wonder if I’m leaking speed by not having that left arm supination after impact that you talk about in other release videos, where you get more of a whip through the ball. I often try and add that supination and just can’t control the face because I’m so used to turning my right hip and shoulder through impact.

[@CogornoGolf]

I would keep it how you currently have it Keven and if you need more speed/distance find it elsewhere

[@davepatterson3132]

Really good video. I like the visual of the right arm staying below the left. Am I correct in understanding the left arm will disconnect from the chest in the follow through? In other words if you were holding something under your left armpit it should fall in the follow through.

[@pelligolf2395]

Dave Patterson yes just as the trail arm disconnects in the backswing the lead will in the follow through

[@stashthevampede0]

Really like the drill and ideas, but how does the idea of shallowing the shaft come into play here?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Scott! Thanks for the message and kind words. I think it would be a completely different conversation. Shallowing the shaft doesnt have much to do with this nor vise versa. In general certainly the more UNDER the right arm is compared to the left during early downswing the more shallow...

[@randyunderwood2894]

jack's book "golf my way" talked about this at length. he said he had to "feel" the back of his left hand hitting the ball. and of course how many times did you see use the left side of a golf course?

[@CogornoGolf]

He did okay ! :)

[@pelligolf2395]

He also said you couldn’t release to hard or early in the downswing if you do it from the inside

[@christophermagnuson1270]

Can you clarify a few points in this drill. So when club is at 90 are you hinging right wrist or left to take it back?? Then from there primarily the left wrist unhinging till club head back in front then rotate.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Chris! "Can you clarify a few points in this drill. So when club is at 90 are you hinging right wrist or left to take it back??" Answer: both. I understand what you're looking for but regardless of what you FEEL we are all holding onto the club with 2 hands so you CANNOT hinge one hand without the other....both must hinge....different people feel different hands

[@chon_jung]

Thank you thank you!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure!

[@marcelvanrijn3408]

Hi Eric, you have really a beautiful golf swing, one of the best. If I see your swing in slow-motion, I see on the three O"clock position also your forearms rotate over each other. Is this also happen, when you keep your right arm below like you say in the video. is it because you have to keep the grip very soft and it happens then naturally. I send you 4 days ago the video in below comments. Thanks for your great videos and hopefully you will answer my questions.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Marcel! Yes-as I was taught into a really weak grip, I needed to add a lot of arm rotation to get the face square. Something I'm trying to work out of. Grip firmness doesn't have a ton to do with that imo. Hope that helps

[@user-fc9wv5gr2y]

Hi Eric , Is this movement also using compression at the impact since the method is using unhinging (please correct me if i am wrong)

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey RA! I'm sure not I understand your question--can you re phrase?

[@user-fc9wv5gr2y]

@@CogornoGolf sorry for my bad english 🙏 , i saw your video about compression (shaft lean forward on the impact *delofting) as i can see : on the delivery position , the right elbow keep on bending and let the body bring the club all the way to the front. Mean while in this video : it seems the right elbow is like throwing for the impact (from bend to extension) all the way to the front (like baseball style)... so i am wondering : can i use delofting (lean shaft on impact) Plus throwing motion like in this video... OMG, sorry for my bad english.. i hope you can understand 😭

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes you can...throw just has to be past impact not before Trail arm still bent at impact kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKjdZ4yop56GqKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnuYpJaZncaFhrM

[@user-fc9wv5gr2y]

@@CogornoGolf many many thanks for the link🙏☕ , so we must delofting clubs at the impact (when hit the ball) and than do the throwing motion after impact while releasing with supination or flexing motion? OR we can choose and it depend on what kind of swing we choose... Or, actually there is only one mechanism apply to one good swing

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey unfortunately I don't think we are going to get to the route if your questions here. Im not sure we are on the same page with the terms here or Im not understanding well enough to answer. Consider joining www.cogornogolf.com so you can send in your swings and we can talk more specifics

[@youdidist]

thx Eric👍

[@CogornoGolf]

You got it my friend!

[@no1no1655]

great vid. as usual. BUT it looks like that window is close to the dreaded 'chicken wing' ....how do you guard against it? Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, James! Keep the ARC wide enough.

[@no1no1655]

@@CogornoGolf thanks!

[@charlesshanklin6582]

Eric, excellent instruction! When releasing the club are you referring to turning the left hand down or “knuckles down” ? Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Charles! More about the UNHINGE portion here!

[@charlesshanklin6582]

Eric I watched the left wrist game changer video, great detail. Going back to the right wrist video for a review. Main area for work is to keep that right wrist from rolling over when I turn the left down. Thanks again for the 2 game changers

[@scottschenk1759]

Ben: “I like to play golf on the offensive not on the defensive” Eric: “Mmmmm” I love this video and your coaching style Eric. Great mentality, reminds me of some lacrosse coaches I had growing up and through college

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Scott! Appreciate the kind words....I liked that one myself :)

[@rjchombre]

If I were to video my swing while trying to keep my left arm on top of my right that deep into the follow through, wouldn’t I see the clubhead AND my left elbow exit at the same time (e.g. chicken wing)? The down swing happens so fast, even for slower swing speeds, that it seems like it would be extremely difficult to obtain the proper finish. Always love your videos. Keep trying to educate us.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the message and feedback! I do not think that would be a chicken wing (all depends on how someone defines that) I would say a chicken wing would be the elbows getting FARTHER apart during the impact phase......which is not what is happening. Elbows would be getting closer together (or maintaining distance)....just with right arm below left. Of course at some point in the follow through the right will go above, this is mostly just impact phase.

[@alexfanjul1428]

I’m brand new to the game. Will this technique work with the driver and woods as well?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Alex! Yup! IF your new I would suggest finding a good coach to work with to build a basic plan to start. Find the top 1-2 priorities to work on AND find good practice plans to implement. Putt first, chip second, hit balls third. Get the short game bundle and follow these to a T: ericcogornogolf.podia.com

[@hambatlu]

Do you need a decent body rotation for this? If yes then I guess you don’t need any lead arm supernation.

[@CogornoGolf]

You certainly need a decent pivot to have any kind of "passive" release style. As well as a clubface that is square to closed to path.

[@pelligolf2395]

The amount of supination would be dependent on grip style

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope you guys enjoyed this video! A lot of great stuff here from Ben and we have more with him to come! If you're in the Nashville Area and want to see Ben (which I would highly recommend) you can get in touch with him here: www.pelligolf.com For these drills to work best imo you want to make sure your clubface is in order before hand (square to closed)....a good release pattern isn't going to happen with an open face. Check these out to sort that out if needed kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqObe4lsiM2giKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ-yfKdoqsifiNk kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK1pWt4o9yMjZo

[@bradtilitzky7146]

I’ve never hit better push draws in my life than after watching this.

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent!

[@bradoverton2535]

Can you go over the finish from the Magic Window? Keep right arm below like McElroy half finish or finally cross right hand over? What’s your preference?

[@pelligolf2395]

Brad Overton I appreciate you taking time to watch. The finish would be a folding at the elbow when the arms get about chest high. Rory iron shots is a good example, Zach Johnson is a good visual as well.

[@krennels]

This is outstanding!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Kurt! Appreciate ya my friend!

[@scottkuhn7154]

How do I make or where do I purchase the training aid?

[@CogornoGolf]

@pelligolf might know the answer to that....his info is in description if you want to touch base.

[@OpaKnows]

Interesting learning concepts.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope you enjoy...Ben is great!

[@Anoopsoni10]

Looks good, but when I compare this drill to Patrick Reeds swing ( one of my favourite swings ), it looks like Patrick seems to release and roll with his right arm finishing on top of left

[@CogornoGolf]

Yup! Thats because of his weak grip and more "open" club face. He needs to release "more" to get the face square. Not "right" or "wrong" just a different way. He's an incredible player so clearly its an option!

[@mikewigoo2433]

Fuck Patrick reed

[@swaugie4534]

@@mikewigoo2433 Why u gotta be stupid about this? Not the place or the time. We don't care about yur opinion!

[@gametimeflagfootball]

Where can I get one of those things. Or how to make one?

[@CogornoGolf]

Touch base with Ben...his info is in description. He can help I'm sure.

[@jasonpat]

It’s called Swing Align. Swingtrainer.com or I also found it on amazon.

[@garychristianson3881]

So Eric, I'm confused. Should we release this way or roll our hands over like you do in all your other videos?

[@garychristianson3881]

@@mattsmith-bl2bg wtf?

[@mrteajay24]

Gary Christianson I’m speaking on my understanding, so I could be wrong... But I see this as a drill to teach the correct impact method and when you go to full swings/full speed, your hands will eventually roll over

[@garychristianson3881]

@@mrteajay24 Yes it is a drill, but very different than the one he teaches in his perfect release video. So my question still is which one does he now beleive is the best one?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Gary! Good question as I have done a bunch of videos tailored to release and different types. I think the best overall recaps on release would be below. The release style really really really depends on grip and clubface. There are certainly other factors (pivot, swing direction, etc) as well check this video out for my detailed info on release: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnTKY4Jultmgj7s That best way to release video would be more tailored to someone with a weaker grip or more open face. Great question-hope that helps clarify my thoughts!

[@garychristianson3881]

@@CogornoGolf watched that video. Really helped explain it. Thanks

[@peteruwatch2970]

Eric, is there an alternative to Facebook on your site/program?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Peter! Not as of right now but will let ya know if anything changes!

[@swardmusic]

So this is against your left arm supination drills shown about 6 months prior to this video. So which one is it! Golf swing is mental!! 😁😁

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Yes...as with all things it all depends on the current players pattern. As you can hear/see in this video we mentioned this is great for players to miss to the LEFT and struggle with hooks/pull hooks. In the supination videos you will notice I mention several times that this is for players who have a club face to open. So each one is good....just for different players. Thats where a good coach comes in which I would recommend for everyone!

[@johnrodgers6049]

Basically he teaches a straight release not a roll release. I agree with what he says. Much more predictable and less timing. Roll release guys like Mickelson are hot and cold (he is one of the best in the world so more hot). Mike Malaska is a big proponent of the straight release. I love his stuff. Without the timing of the roll, a straight release guy can get it in the slot and hit it as hard as he wants.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, John!

[@matthewjones616]

Love this drill, but as someone who suffers with a chicken wing anyway this is encouraging the left elbow to stay high. How would I combat this?

[@CogornoGolf]

You would do the opposite of this then :)

[@matthewjones616]

So keep right arm as shown but add a bend in the left arm early?..

[@campbelllindsay6308]

Great tutorial guys. I find that I can do the move quite well when standing but when in my golf position I tend to stand up and then flip at impact. I wonder if it has to do with standing too close, or mayb it’s just the “humping the goat” thatkeeps me from improving 😫

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it! Could definitely be...there are several things that could be going on at the setup or backswing or transition that could be preventing this. Best to find a good coach to work with to help identify and work through. I would need to see a video of your swing to say for sure why that's happening....if you don't get it sorted, check out cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and help there!

[@carlmerkel1674]

Great video from a right hand flipper. Now if I can only train myself to do some of this. Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Carl! You can do it my friend! Keep consistent with your practice, give yourself enough feedback and stay the course!

[@carlmerkel1674]

Eric I Never comment but just tested in the garage with my SkyTrak. I hit balls all the time and I can go so far left 25% of the time due to right over left I call it. Well I am amazed just be trying to make that left over right window (that is my only thought) my left shots are barely (compared to usual) left. I have many problems with my swing but #1 is real bad misses left. Thanks to you and BP for hope for less lefts in the new year carl

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it-glad to hear that! Steps in the right direction!

[@dabaumga]

Eric, thanks again for the outstanding content- love it man! QUESTION: I have been working on releasing the club this off-season. Is there a twist I can use with this drill to make it work for me? I feel like if I do this drill it will make the bit of chicken wing I have worse, if that makes sense. THANKS!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Appreciate the kind words-thanks for being here. The reality is I need to SEE a video of you doing what you are describing you are FEELing so I can see whats REALLY going on. Whats your normal shot shape? Do you miss more right or left?

[@dabaumga]

Eric Cogorno Golf thanks for getting back to me! Normal shot shape is baby draw; miss is block right and occasional snap hook.

[@CogornoGolf]

Understood-thanks for that.. Too many variables that could be causing that unfortunately. Maybe a path issue. check out cogornogolf.com is you don't get it sorted so we can see and help.

[@dtgps]

Ben Hogans hips were wide open before the clubhead came near the back of the ball. He squared the clubhead by body rotation. He did not consciously release his right arm. He held on to the club with his right hand and he let the deceleration of his arms (kinematic chain) accelerate the club, wrists being free swinging hinges. The entire DS is less than 1/4 second. From P6(club parallel with the ground in DS) to impact is a fraction of that 1/4 second. There is no human who can know where their hands and arms are in space in real time from start of DS to impact, let alone control arm or hand release. It happens when we let the kinematic sequence happen with wrists being free swinging hinges.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@dtgps]

@@CogornoGolf Moe Norman kept the clubface square for such a long time by using his body to square the clubface from this perfect P6.(club shaft parallel with the ground) redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_158319628319912&key=202af8f4ce9f2b881bf497a8a3f5add2&libId=k7b66npz0100jaw0000DAmp8bgotv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.golfwrx.com%2Fdiscussion%2F1815211%2Fhelp-w-over-swing-and-coming-ott&v=1&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fus.v-cdn.net%2F6024507%2Fuploads%2F582%2F03MW54SON2W6.jpg&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.golfwrx.com%2Fcategories%2Fswing-videos-and-comments&title=Help%20w%2F%20Over%20Swing%20and%20Coming%20OTT%20%E2%80%94%20GolfWRX&txt=ImageUntitled.jpgUploaded%20Mar%202%2C%202020463.78%20KB

[@raymondjones8899]

Well, damn. This simplified things a bit.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks man!

[@johnhue8933]

Eric or Pelil, Do you describe this type of release as a drive hold release?

[@pelligolf2395]

John Hue thank you for watching but I personally would not use that phrase.

[@petervanhulsen]

The problem that I encounter is that I am flipping after contact with the ball

[@CogornoGolf]

Find out WHY thats happening and fix that... Could be clubface too open, downswing too steep, no body rotation, etc etc... Find the root...fix that.

[@kidpoker007]

How do they really determine who the best teacher is?

[@CogornoGolf]

Not a perfect process but they do the best they can and working to improve it seems each year!

[@larrykalil4767]

Just what the doctor ordered 🏌️👍

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope it helps, Larry :)

[@pelligolf2395]

Larry, thank you for taking time to watch. Keep us updated and glad it rang true for you

[@BillyTheKidAudit]

It appears to put yourself in that start position you almost have to loosen or pre chicken wing that left shoulder to allow that setup, looks and feels funky.........not sure that's going to work for the majority!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback my friend! Its much more about what you do with your right arm (which I wouldn't consider a chicken wing) Value yours (and everyones) opinion but I'll disagree on this one.

[@BillyTheKidAudit]

@@CogornoGolf...👍🙌

[@m3toz4]

Add the body turn and you will block it to the right with that swing.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@jsplay7415]

I feel stupid. I don't watch this channel like ever.... But the guy in the maroon sweater literally repeated what the other guy said for like 3 minutes... Why? 3:01-6:37

[@CogornoGolf]

Lol thanks for the feedback!

[@jsplay7415]

@@CogornoGolf thank you for the content. I just watched a ton of your videos. Your golf insight is on another level. And you communicating with your viewers is quite refreshing.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, man! Appreciate you being with us! Trying to find a balance between not talking too much/repeating myself and making sure its clear and easy to understand.....work in progress!

[@vantumpete]

Looks more like a wedge swing, not going to hit very far w/o a throwing type release.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@dtgps]

The DS takes less than 1/4 second and impact is 5, 10,000th of a second. No one can actively unhinge the wrists at impact or release left hand . not humanly possible. There is time at top of BS for one thought before impact. One intention. As long as all five levers in a common plane(unique for every golfers body...caddies view is irrelevant) The left arm will be above right arm , when all five levers are in a common plane (Ben Hogan called it the SLOT) The deceleration of the hands in DS(kinematic sequence) is the reason the clubhead accelerates. not active , conscious release of hands or wrists. Its the body turn that squares the clubface.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Mikal! Thanks for the feedback! Is it possible that an INTENTION of something happening during the downswing (release) CAN be accomplished BECAUSE that movement would be initiated in your brain much earlier? Say Start of downswing? Cant a thought to do something LATER (downswing) work because it really starts much earlier?

[@dtgps]

@@CogornoGolf Please dont take me word . Check it out. It is impossible for any human to know where our hands or arms are in space, in real tme during the 1/4 second it takes for the DS. Therefore it is impossible to know when to "release" any body part during that brief time period, let alone fine tune it to square the clubface during 5, 10,000 second for impact. Its not humanly possible. My instructor first researched what is possible for humans to accomplish. ie motor cortex in co ordination with body parts. Notice the time delay when you touch a hot stove element? Pain sensors happen much quicker than normal reaction time. Our eyes dont SEE in real time. There is a tiny time delay from light hitting our retina to signal to the brain ; then image appears in our awareness. After all we are only, human.

[@dtgps]

Please dont take me word . Check it out. It is impossible for any human to know where our hands or arms are in space, in real tme during the 1/4 second it takes for the DS. Therefore it is impossible to know when to "release" any body part during that brief time period, let alone fine tune it to square the clubface during 5, 10,000 second for impact. Its not humanly possible. My instructor first researched what is possible for humans to accomplish. ie motor cortex in co ordination with body parts. Notice the time delay when you touch a hot stove element? Pain sensors happen much quicker than normal reaction time. Our eyes dont SEE in real time. There is a tiny time delay from light hitting our retina to signal to the brain ; then image appears in our awareness. After all we are only, human.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks again! I'm familiar with the current research in this area....appreciate you looking to help!

[@dtgps]

@@CogornoGolf cheers

[@louisolivierfortin]

It’s all good on pitch shots etc. But when swinging it > 100mph CHS with certain clubs it’s almost impossible to achieve, the hands are going to roll

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, Louis!

[@mydogclyde1]

Good material. I know it is your show but you seem to take over from the guest instructor and, for me, confused the instruction.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback! Sorry about that!

[@newaxys]

Weil thanks to This Drill i had to get my left hand taped up and am not able to play golf for the Moment. Must have done something wrong

[@CogornoGolf]

Yikes, sorry to hear that Ruben! Hope you feel better my friend!

[@jeanlouisdubillon4212]

Hum not a Huge fan or this, make me think of no rotation and big push

[@pelligolf2395]

Jean Louis DUBILLON I appreciate you taking time to watch. This system like all fit certain players better.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, Jean! Don't knock it until you try it. You can see this demonstrated but a lot of great ball strikers who have their clubface in order heading into impact!

[@johnbosco9493]

This teaching goes against everything that is being taught.. Throw your right hand for more power. This is the problem with golf, everyone tells you their method is better, no wonder golfers are getting worse not better, oh and by the way, with the amount of videos on take away transition and follow through, this is not including grip, posture, alignment, how can golf be fun. I see it everytime I play golf, the golfer stands over the ball, with a multitude of swing thoughts and has no idea what they are doing. Eric you seem like you want to help golfers become better, let's face it there is a lot of money to be made here but if you really want to increase the numbers into golf and grow the game and lower scores whilst enjoying the game then stop filling everyone's head full of crap and work on simplifying the method and become a real teacher by showing the masses how to use natural talent.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey John! Thank for your feedback and your thoughts on the state of the game and my teaching methods.

[@Sdschnaible]

John (and Eric) Laying in bed a week post op from back surgery had me reading more comments than usual.... John, Think about the golf swing...what part of it is “natural”? Swinging a club from somewhere behind the ball towards the target is about all that people do correct initially. Beyond that the swing is an ATHLETIC endeavor with hundreds of movements to be coordinated by the body’s 650+ muscles . (It takes 13 muscles just to scribble notes about from these videos on a piece of paper!). Look at the top 1%...the tour guys. They do it with supreme ease, But what else do they do well? Many were good athletes in whatever sport they play/played. Watch Phil flip a football into the stands on 16 @WM. Ricky raced dirt bikes at a high level, Jack played football and basketball, DJ is an athletic freak. Hale Irwin great cornerback at CU. And so on and so on...so to make the “work on simplifying the method “ comment makes no sense when you realize the great golfers do a lot of athletic things great. Athletic ability should, for the rest of us, be labeled athletic LIMITATIONS. Eric DOES have vid all the way down to basic grip and set up. But most viewing his channel are seeking help beyond that. (Though many might do well to look there for what ails their game😉) At my best I was a 5 handicap on the books playing intramural golf in the USAF. No instruction. Never worked on short game. Just played a lot. I also played football and basketball. I was a sprinter in HS. Sports came naturally Now 30 years later I got my son to routinely shoot 80 by age 11. But he plateaued. I was out of golf knowledge to take him to the next level. On his own and with a ton of viewing Eric’s channel (and HOURS from 30 yards and in and on the green) he’s really improving. He now has a coach to every now and then take a look. He’s now playing off a 4 from the men’s tees. He finds these videos priceless. I throw my son in this because he also is ridiculously good shooting a basketball though never played much. We go to the YMCA to workout and just goofing around beats the guys playing horse. He can see and feel shooting a ball like he does driving in a low 58 deg wedge. My lowest knockdown 56 is a moonball in comparison. His ability..my limitation... It’s just not necessary to slam a guy who imo has the best instruction on KZbin for not teaching a swing that will work for the masses. That’s a good ol’ snake oil salesmen that claims that.. (the closest swing I can think of that might work for many would be Steve Stricker) Eric makes it clear and concise, then more importantly says things like “practice that move 200 times so you get the feel”. Eric, you rock. Thanks for the amazing help you’ve given my son. We’ll be watching your next post!

[@johnbosco9493]

@@Sdschnaible every single part of the golf swing is natural.. Did anyone teach you how to throw a ball, did anyone teach Homo Sapien how to throw a spear, we would not exist if they did. Look up Ron Sisson for his take on natural ability, we all have it Devon it is wired in our DNA, if golfers were to focus externally ie what the clubhead was doing and not on body parts, then there would be rapid improvement in this great game..

[@Sdschnaible]

John Bosco throwing a spear is a stretch of a comparison. But to compare...the best spear throwers were naturally more athletic and natural selection determined they survived. If you had mediocre spear throwing skills, maybe you survived but we’re short and of smaller body mass. If you totally sucked at it then you were dinner for a T-RexThe golf swing- some swing it naturally quite well. They likely also do other things quite well as I posted. The lesser gifted individuals do it, well less good to throw in some bad grammar. (And thankfully it doesn’t mean they are weeded out of the gene pool). It does mean they turn to guys like Eric for help. I’d go as far as to say that the golf swing is anything but natural. If you related to throwing a spear, spear throwing was essential for survival. A good golf swing not so much. The understanding from kinesiology and physics standpoint is not intuitive, nor is there a single best way. Just as in throwing a spear, I throw sidearmed like Randy Johnson, you come over the top like Roger Clemens. Both get the job done but the throwing motion is based upon limb length, flexibility, number of fast twitch muscles, etc. There is no one universal swing that focuses on the clubhead. If there is, put it out there in a teachable format andyou would be worth more than Jeff Bezos.

[@johnbosco9493]

@@Sdschnaible I think you missed the point entirely, the analogies I voted such as throwing a spear are metaphorical to give the example of how the GOLFSWING MOTION is wired in our DNA, so I'd skipping a rock, did anyone teach you to do that by showing you what body parts you needed to use? To answer you in regards to focusing on the clubhead rather than body parts, the new paradigm of teaching is exactly that, it is externally focused rather than internally focused. This form of teaching was tested and proven to be 33 percent more effective, at the end of the day Devon if your happy learning like that then go hard, me I'm improving rapidly by external focus..We are all golfers and we are all looking for a magic bullet, subconsciously whatever you believe will be you panacea..

[@billdai1]

Please...Please...STOP using left and right when explaining golf! Front and back would work soooo much better. There are left-handed golfers out there. We don’t appreciate having to translate all of your advice. It is FRONT and back. Not LEFT and RIGHT!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback, Bill! I have heard this feedback before. Not sure I will change that, but will keep it in mind! Hope you are well!

[@frankqian6285]

Amateurs, simply rotate ur left forearm for release, this system is not constructed for you, unless you want to destroy your left lower back;

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for you feedback, Frank!

[@frankqian6285]

@@CogornoGolf This is great Eric, don't get me wrong, not trying to be sour, just this move is not for the amateurs who didn't build the right muscle and mind like the pros;

[@CogornoGolf]

All good man-I have nothing but love for ya!

[@nickm.9726]

The right arm doesn't work this way in a proper swing. It extends downwards through the ball, and a release is always nonexistent in players trying to square the clubface. No one can hit the ball dead straight, so trying to square the clubface is just not intelligent. The ball will always curve, so learning to control said curvature is key to good striking, which will create a good release.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback!

[@Andyvg99]

I’m confused. When you say “The right arm doesn’t work this way in a proper swing”, are you saying Ben is wrong?

[@nickm.9726]

@@Andyvg99 I'm saying it's incorrect, as far as a release is concerned. The right arm extends downwards, into and through the ball. If the right arm were to be held off as explained, 1. You'd slice everything and 2. Contact on an iron would always be thin at best. As far as release goes, the hands don't "turn over" but are used to strike the ball downward, which naturally creates release if you're hitting though the ball.

[@pelligolf2395]

Champion's Path thank you for taking time to watch. You are correct the right arm will extend eventually but most players who come to my lesson tee need more of this move described. In addition all my players curve the ball, with most playing draws. If you have more questions don’t hesitate to call me directly 410.533.7805

[@nickm.9726]

@@pelligolf2395 Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the effort. If I came across as being contrary, that wasn't my goal. I was disagreeing, and that was all. Thanks again for the reply.