WOW - I was truly shocked - AEROS NINE wing

[@happee_meal8302]

Now, if my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles an hour, you're going to see some serious............Wrong video, soz! 😂

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Haha, that comment is getting pinned. Made me smile. I hope you are well.

[@clearprop]

This is a game changer for SSDR. What an awesome machine and testament to the skill and passion of some amazing people. I feel my Adam wing has just halved in value... 🤣 Thanks as always for the video, Giles - you help keep the fires burning for UK flex! 🙂

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm still keeping my ADAM wing, that is staying with me for flying in Somerset.

[@ShortField]

Great video Giles I could see the shock waves building up on downwind :-) As a total flex noob that did look awesome. I see you're now one of Ben's test pilots 🙂

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'll need to give you the experience of flying in a flexwing then ;)

[@DavidReckitt]

Gonna be a top seller. I had a chaser for a while. Those are 10m. Great fun but at my weight not a huge amount of authority in the flare. I understand this is not the case at all with the Nine. That, to me, is the staggering truth. 👍👍👍

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I hope I didn't ruin the video for you. Flies like a Wasp, lands like a PeaBee.

[@wrdturkey]

Another great video Giles. Good luck to Ben and others. That wing will have you in Scottland in no time. LOL!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Wayne, I hope you are keeping well over there? Yes, it would get me to Scotland in a good time😂.

[@ianimg1043]

That's got Epic ness written all over it and WOW! sums it up perfectly. Something for me to aspire to in the future 🤙

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

In some respects it's good for you to see it all now, so that you can see what will be available in a few years when wings change hands.

[@alwatt9367]

Sywell love the Aviators Hotel......Sywell... Sadly my son is in Worcestershire so its a bit of a drive from the East Coast... How exciting for you Giles.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Al, we did go to the hotel bar afterwards. It was a very exciting day.

[@flyskiride]

What an aircraft it's performance is amazing , great work everyone involved

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Lee, I hope nights were quiet😁? It's definitely an aircraft for the SSDR flexwing market.

[@nur5ey1]

That chuckle said it all Giles!! Looks amazing dear sir...😁👍🏼

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I'm just a giggling happy pilot.

[@duncanthomas7455]

Am really looking forward to flying one of these!!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I wouldn't be surprised if you used some slightly more excitable language than I did Duncan 🤣.

[@duncanthomas7455]

Me....Never hahahahaha

[@ronster00]

Wow indeed.....was looking forward to this video giles after listening to your reactions yesterday...looks an amazing bit of kit🤩

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Shane, it was great to finally meet you in person yesterday. Glad you enjoyed it and look forward to coming back to DM in the future.

[@ronster00]

was good to meet you too dude.....will be back next BBQ/curry night weather permitting👍@@GolfFoxtrot22

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@ronster00 I'm back in September.

[@kevchilton908]

That looks amazing Giles! You’ll soon need to look further afield than Scotland for your flying adventures… or you won’t need to carry a sleeping bag! 😆 I’m looking forward to following its progress👏👏👏

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Kev, don't mention that to Mark, he'll be planning the next trip. 😁.

[@kevchilton908]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 😆👍

[@kevchilton908]

@@GolfFoxtrot22

[@rabcameron1676]

Fantastic 🎉

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It was definitely an experience Rab.

[@stone8597]

Great video. Thanks for sharing your first impressions.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Stone, it was a fun day. I can't wait to get my NINE.

[@migueldias3157]

That thing with the Polini 303 at 38hp is the prefect flying machine.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Miguel, the flights with the Polini 303 are on the editing screen right now. Fingers crossed it will be out this week.

[@migueldias3157]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 top i can't wait to see it 👍 it's the poket rocket of the sky

[@migueldias3157]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 you know the price of that wing?

[@andreschapero3615]

Really enjoyed this video ! There’s a PeaBee flying electric in the US already ! Getting closer to a 90 minute electric flight time . I’ m optimistic for minimal and fun flying aircraft.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Andres, yes, I been following Jonathan's electric PeaBee on his youtube channel, do you follow his channel as well?

[@huffpappy]

Very cool!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Sam, it was pretty cool, I can't wait to fly the final tested version.

[@InducedBank]

Bit late to this (hols, sorry!) - looks like it will be a fantastic wing 😁 As it will need a bigger engine, and a bigger screen, will it not been so easy to set up the trike for that and then put the ADAM wing back on? One of the best things to my mind about the PeaBee is the fun of flying slow - and landing slow - and being able to land just about anywhere - so how do you feel about this faster wing compared to that?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Mike, I'll probably give you a call.

[@Sephizor]

That thing is insane! Pushing the 185 to the limits though for sure. Since it's SSDR only, I imagine it would benefit from a 30L tank by default since the fuel burn will probably be a bit higher with a larger engine

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Looking at the fuel burn figures of the Polini 303, they would be similar to the Moster but with more power.

[@tomcoryell]

It a good morning when I wake up (in the US) and Giles has posted. Looks like it will be too fast for Part 103 in the US.

[@huffpappy]

It's probably time the FAA updated Part 103 to accommodate advancements like the Nine. I wish we had a bigger 103 legal community in the US. Paramotors are far more prolific than flex wing trikes.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Tom, always glad to make the day better. What are the speed limits for FAR103?

[@huffpappy]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Part 103 says: 55 knots (63 MPH, or 101.86 KMH) I think they should increase it to at least 80 knots/92 MPH

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@huffpappy is that a maximum level speed of 55 kts?

[@stone8597]

I think Sergey from Aeros said cruise is 85 to 100 klm. I think this would put it under (US) 103. You could also play with the prop or engine to reduce the cruise speed...manufacturers have played this sort of slight of hand before.

[@WiltshireMan]

You could really travel far and wide on a wing like that:)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Sandy, that will hopefully be the plan. I'm quite excited by the NINE wing and trike.

[@stone8597]

Can I ask how it is to set-up? One of the nice things about my Fox TL13 is set-up is quick and easy. Tanks for the great video.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I might not be able to answer, what do you mean by set up, but I can ask Ben.

[@stone8597]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Sorry about that. What I meant by "set-up" is: I store plane with the wing folded back. I roll the trike out of the hanger, extend the wings, put in the battens, and set the tension...ready for pre-flight. All of this takes me a little over six minutes. I am wondering, how long it will take to do the same for the Nine? The Nine uses the same mast as the Fox (the Combat uses a taller mast) so reaching everything looks the same with either Fox or Nine. I just wonder about how many more battens you have to stuff, how hard it is to tension the wing, and of course the wing tips will take longer. Thanks, and sorry for not being more clear with my question.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi @stone8597, not a problem, I just wanted to answer your question with accurate information. The nine pretty much rigs and derig the same way when mounted on the trike. Only 1 more battern and 3 lower ones. In terms of extra works you are only talking minutes. You can leave the tips on if you want. It's a nice Aeros and Flylight standard or easy flying. I think it would rig quicker than my Adam as it doesn't have a king post. Wing tension is not silly high as well.

[@stone8597]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 Thanks much. It's great you can leave the tips on when you fold the wing back...very interesting.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I can't wait for mine to arrive in the UK.

[@edwalker2790]

Wicked. Sounds like an excuse for me to buy a EFI engine. I notice it's strutted not kingpost. And is the sail material different? Looks like the more traditional cloth type.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Ed, its very similar to the Stingray wing that is on the Deltajet. Feels very modern and topless looks quite sexy as well.

[@silentelectrics]

Darn! I was seriously going to put in my order for one of these and put a 4-stroke Aero-1000 engine on it, but it goes too fast for Part 103 in the US (63mph tops). Oh well. Looks amazing though. Great job Ben and Aeros!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Jonathan, it's strange how on one has the FAR103 gives so much freedom, but also at the same time, be so restrictive on performance.

[@silentelectrics]

I know. It's as if they are mandating giant draggy kites with engines! @@GolfFoxtrot22

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Jonathan, I've been subsequently informed that the NINE wing will conform to FAR103 as there are some extra calculation factors that mean it does comply. :)

[@silentelectrics]

Well that IS a juicy bit of news! I wonder how they are going to limit the speed (stall speed has to be less than 24 knots as well)? I trust their expertise though. And what about this NEW TRIKE you alluded to?? When, what, how???@@GolfFoxtrot22

[@stone8597]

I think you can use a different prop...this can slow it up. This is what 103 has to say: "(3) Is not capable of more than 55 knots calibrated airspeed at full power in level flight; and (4) Has a power-off stall speed which does not exceed 24 knots calibrated airspeed."

[@BrianTurboT]

Wooooosh .... 😎 ... Scotland AND back in the same day on that machine? 🤔

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Brian, I could do but it is still all about the journey and adventure.

[@justhangin7186]

Nice , I love my combat on the ant 👌

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Paul, I've not flown a combat wing, but I'm soon to try a Discus.

[@justhangin7186]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 its great to have the best of both worlds when buying your nano, slow wing and fast cruising wing , the combat cruises at 40 knots no worries and seen 50 when you stuff it under your armpits 🤣

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I can relate to the armpit trim position. 🤣

[@NicholasStreet]

Wouldn’t it benefit with a slightly coarser pitch prop than the standard Peabee? Or would that stop it revving out on takeoff?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Nick, I've experimented with courser propellers but it doesn't give you the extra power/ speed that you'd need for this wing. And yes it does take the top end off the engine. I hope you are well.

[@NicholasStreet]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 I’m not bad, thanks, though suffering with the heat a bit on a job in Greece. I suppose I shouldn’t complain as the weather is as crap as ever back home from what I’ve heard!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@NicholasStreet if we get 2 flying days back to back, it's a novelty.

[@paulieb796]

Just picking my colour!!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I think Red is your new colour. 😁

[@damoflyingadventures]

That is a fast machine, looks like it's a bit of a handful though.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Damo, it was the initial trimming stages of the wing. I've flown it again subsequently and it's an absolute delight. Much more dialled in. I've already placed my order😁.

[@DougBow96]

100 kg, nice! Good to know you're testing for the 'merica market. 😂 With a larger engine will you be able to build a trike under 115 kg and a 18 l fuel tank? I'm thinking US ultralight market.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Doug, I'm doing all the testing just for you ;). Anything is possible and I'm sure it could be made for the American market.

[@DougBow96]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 ha ha, thanks 👍. I appreciate your efforts. 😊

[@blue_beephang-glider5417]

I don't know what a "Chaser" is so can't comment one way or the other about it. As for development and getting people into flexwings... Both my friend and I both hated the heavy handling of the two seaters and I almost gave the whole thing up in the first few hours flying them. The single seat flexwings are delightful. I was thinking how easy it would be to have radio control training in single seat trikes? When the instructor is off the controls the student would get the light responsive feel, this could be used for trial flights for the same reason, perhaps more people would continue with the sport?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Sorry for not getting back to. Your comment sooner. I think that the trianing is where some development needs to be made but you can't beat the immediate response of a supportive voice in your headset and hands on the controls. The Chaser microlight was really well known in the UK in the 90s. I've personally not see the wing, only a Chaser trike.

[@flyingkub]

My poor old Kub will struggle to keep up by the sound of it 🙂

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Algy, what does your Kub cruise at?

[@flyingkub]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 the Kub cruises between 65 and 75mph max continues is 82mph in level flight but I might as well just pour fuel over the side with the fuel burn at that speed. 😳

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@flyingkub I think you are safe in your Kub being faster.

[@flyingkub]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 at least we could easily hold formation.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@flyingkub one day.

[@grovoskigrovoski8681]

You got it to 91 mph or 147 kmh did you have a tailwind?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Yes it was downwind. I had just turned on the downwind leg of the circuit. It was just fun seeing how fast I could go😁.

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Fantastic 👍👍👍👍👍😍 Cant wait to see what this will do with the Cosmos. With new 500wh/kg batteries hitting mainstream in a few years that will make these units even more exciting. Thanks for another great video. Cheers PS - what is the VNE of this new wing?

[@huffpappy]

I was wondering about the VNE too.

[@benashman1495]

Vne will most likely be set at 145 kph.

[@patrickmckowen2999]

@@benashman1495 If the Cosmo will get it to cruise at 125kph I will be impressed and start saving my coin. Cheers

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Patrick, I knew Ben would give the most accurate answer.

[@stone8597]

Aeros has the posted... it's 140 kph.

[@neilbarriskell7840]

That looked a lot of fun! So when will you be buying the wing 😂

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Buying or bought? 🤔😉

[@neilbarriskell7840]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 LOL my money is on the latter…

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

maaayyybeeeee@@neilbarriskell7840

[@neilbarriskell7840]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 😂 will you have to upgrade the engine, or will you go for a whole new trike…

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

A whole new trike :D

[@FlyingDarkLord]

It must be fun to get to test other aircraft & also lends perspective. It’s very easy to become comfortable with just one aircraft rather than stretching our skills & knowledge by experiencing something different 🤔

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

It's a wonderful part of my flying to get to fly so many different types. I'm sure you need a flexwing flight in your logbook don't you Geoff. 🤣

[@brendandigney8520]

Sure we'll do a Eurostar - Eurofox swap for a season!!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

@@brendandigney8520 only if you cover the Rotax bills🤣😛.

[@FlyingDarkLord]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 It’s got to happen at some stage! 😎👍🏼

[@FlyingDarkLord]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 The rotax bills are never cheap! 😵‍💫

[@quintonbrown1315]

Nice one Giles, what else are you going to spend your money on 😂😳

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Ahh Quinton, it's been far too long, I hope you are keeping well. Yes indeed, what else would I spend my flying budget on. I can't wait to fly mine in the new NINE trike.

[@DanSmithBK]

Surely, if it was developed in Germany, it should be the Nein?!

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I did think that :)

[@cielmonpixel]

it would be "Neun"

[@airborne652]

Dear Santa I want one in Ducati red please.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Ben, the Red does look nice. I'm sure FFF need a few fast single seats in the fleet😁.

[@airborne652]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 we’ll have to see when there’s a more powerful engine. I need to get back into the flying seat need a check flight as I’ve not flown for 12 months now.

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Oh no way. You'll need to get your hours in soon. The new NINE trike will have a 38 hp engine.

[@chrsfrwll]

Nice. Looks like a wallet buster

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

But I'm sure it will be worth it Chris. When you get yours, lets plan a trip.

[@travellerpalace979]

Hello to holly molly :-/ but what are the 91 (bananas) you talk about ...? Mph , km/h, kt/h ...? Isn’t right that 75knots per hour is the expetec Speed to never exceed ? And some 54kt/h could be the cruise speed. Also yes it may be over the part103, but holly molly thanks the USA are just a part of earth, and the world is much more larger than USA :-)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Hi Traveller, 91 mph, there is a follow up video where further testing has been made with more accurate figures. The NINE will fit under the FAR103 as there are additional factors that can be added in under a FAA document I've been shown. It was brilliant to fly it none the less.

[@travellerpalace979]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 About US I mean we are not concerned in UE. So let it fly as faster as possible ! I hope to test it in Germany in a couple of month. Will look forewards to buy one in remplacement of my iFun13, wich I find to lazy and inaccurate. As well as to slow/less energy make it unapropriate in middle gusty conditions. Let us see what this Nine will have in these conditions. :-)

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

I have now flown it in thermic air, it just cut through it. I was so surprised ( future videos )

[@travellerpalace979]

@@GolfFoxtrot22 hummm don’t let me hope so much ;-) Apart, why sboud it push physical laws away ? Anyway I must test it. Thank you for the upgrade !

[@Nicky_Nacky_Nooo]

Personally, I don't really see the point of SSDR's, unless you have no friends 🤷‍♂ If I have an NPPL, I am not buying a single seat Peabee for £11,000 - £14,000 that only goes 55mph. I am buying a decent secondhand P&M, Pegasus, Mainair or Quantum for half the price, 30-50 mph quicker cruise speed and I'm able to take a passenger.

[@benashman1495]

You obviously feel a need to vent your negativity 😂

[@Nicky_Nacky_Nooo]

@@benashman1495 Not really venting my negativity, just sharing my thoughts, as I thought that's what the comments section was for 🤔 As you sell them, I would have expected a more professional response than that. At least I was polite in my comment and didn't bash the product. I just had a quick look at the prices and for the Trike with windscreen, Moster 185 and Adam 13T wing, you advertise for £14,670 and another seller offers it for £12,334. What does the extra £2336 get when buying from yourself?

[@stone8597]

Why buy a motorcycle when you can buy a car? Same arguement...it's about the feel...it's all about the way it feels.w

[@benashman1495]

@@Nicky_Nacky_Nooo I replied politely. Your reply was negative. Putting that aside you are making the time old mistake of comparing new for old. It does look like new single seaters are less than half the new cost of two seaters. You have to agree on that point. Now I will put another smiley, laughing emoji to show I am polite 🤣

[@Nicky_Nacky_Nooo]

@@benashman1495 You very clearly do not understand my comment then. I am not talking about if they are new or used. I am talking about what you get for your money. If you want to compare to used prices, I have seen lightly used SSDR's for £6000-£8000 which you will find is the same price as a twin seat flex. I see you avoided answering my question so I will ask again.......What does the extra £2336 get when buying from yourself rather than buying from Micro Maintenance?