Google Pushes Unpopular Chrome Update - What to do!

Manifest V3 is easily the most controversial Chrome update, breaking Ad Blockers and Tracker Blockers on Chrome and all Chromium browsers.
Switch to Firefox or Safari as they are not affected by Manifest V3.
Manifest V3 will come out in June 2024.
Links:
► Firefox: www.mozilla.org/firefox
► Article by EFF: www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12...
Discord: / discord
0:00 Adblocker war of 2023
0:39 Manifest v3
1:40 Chrome is not your friend
2:03 What to do
2:27 Outro

[@Baldeur]

Firefox: *does literally nothing* Chrome: *keeps sabotaging itself* Damn this business strategy sure is working

[@L_ednik]

the gabe newell gambit

[@labrek01]

It's called advertising Edit: One more reason to use adblockers lmao

[@MrHitmancheg]

People that claim Firefox did nothing to make itself shit have not been acquainted with it for all that long. It's not great. Chromium based browsers hold the de facto monopoly for a reason. It's all just a big ugly race to the bottom.

[@link_team3855]

Edge: becomes chrome userbase: *poof*

[@linussextips2328]

Yet firefox is still trailing behind hard and google has to regularly give mozilla money so they can claim that they dont have a monopoly

[@hyun-shik7327]

Google blocking ad blocking is itself an ad for Firefox. I love it.

[@G-Man..277]

Use brave. Your chrome extensions will work on brave

[@Vestige_]

im kinda confused whats so good about firefox

[@wegamegood2884]

@@Vestige_ that they will still have adblockers lmfao

[@somnia3423]

@@Vestige_ its a browser, you can browse with it (and block ads)

[@Vestige_]

@@wegamegood2884 arent there a million other good ones though

[@ElectricityTaster]

I'll watch google's ads when Google pays me for selling my eyeballs and personal info to the advertisers.

[@LongPeter]

They would say they do. They pay you with access to their services.

[@ElectricityTaster]

@@LongPeter oh and they unilaterally agreed that was a good deal?

[@LongPeter]

@@ElectricityTaster If you have an account, you accepted the EULA, making it a bilateral agreement. If you don't have an account, then I suppose the legal verbiage would say something to the effect of, 'By use of this service you agree that [whatever we feel like]. Love, Big daddy Sundar.', implying it is a two party agreement anyway.

[@bubbletea695]

Doesn't brave do that?

[@ElectricityTaster]

@@LongPeter Yeah but if I have a right to a lawyer it's because I can't be expected to understand the law, therefore all contracts I sign are null and void. I don't care if I break the whole legal system, I'm dying on this rock.

[@migueltoledo1884]

I vaguely remember the FBI or some other government agency saying that using an ad-blocker is a security requirement. A *government agency* that spies on people is telling others that an AD BLOCKER is a security requirement.

[@Gmann2021]

when even the feds are saying that you're privacy sucks, you know you screwed up

[@xthax9718]

​@@Gmann2021 your* 🤓

[@badpiggs]

@@Gmann2021 it's not hard to spell

[@Xioverze]

@@Gmann2021 i truly am privacy

[@Stunex]

@@Gmann2021 ad blockers are recommended because a lot of the ads on the Internet are scams or malware. The FBI could probably not care less about privacy..

[@cesarsantos854]

Let Chrome die.

[@almuchu7213]

F*** YEAH!

[@midann]

Let chromium die. Bring back the browser wars

[@K.Parth_Singh]

​@@midannwell I don't think companies will let chromium die because making your own web engine from stretch is very tough and costly.

[@elokthewizard]

@@K.Parth_Singh blink is the engine tho innit

[@brawldude2656]

I'm writing this from chrome. Yes let the chrome die

[@HalfEclipsed]

Considering the fact that the FBI consider an ad blocker a must when using the internet. Makes this objectively a safety regression.

[@blakeeastman4769]

Source?

[@pythontest512]

@@blakeeastman4769 Im trying to give you a source but youtube wont let me. google: fbi considers ad blocking Click on the adguard result and in that article you'll find the link to the fbi announcement.

[@MisterZig0]

That depends on if the FBI is an objective source but nonetheless it's a regression but not directly to safety as the extensions aren't part of the base system.

[@electrotone2507]

@@blakeeastman4769 www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221

[@electrotone2507]

@@blakeeastman4769 I tried to link the page, but the KZbin bot auto deleted my comment. Linking to an official US government web page is bad, m'kay? 🤣 Try searching for ic3, Y2022 and PSA221221 in your favorite search engine.

[@bot2k6]

Louis Rossman said it best, that he just doesn't understand how people are not supposed to use adblockers(recommended by the literal FBI for safe internet usage), when a majority of ads that google adsense shows you have malicious links in them.

[@peoplez129]

And the worst part is even a cursory glance makes it obvious these ads are scams. So it's clear that Google is literally not reviewing these ads directly, the entire ad system is clearly on autopilot. I'd even go as far to say that not only do they know, they're in on it not just to make money, but to launder money. That's the only explanation that makes sense, because they're clearly not making money from the ads themselves, they're making it from the people who get scammed, and from scam ad makers funneling dark money into Google. Or in other words, most of these scam ads are fake, not meant for anyone to really fall for them, but rather, they exist simply to have a reason to send money Google's way, and that's how the money is laundered.

[@lucadivine3862]

Me who's been maining Firefox for the last 10 years: "interesting..."

[@peter-uy2iv]

Same

[@lofl6968]

yep

[@hoodiekid8439]

That i carly meme right?

[@lofl6968]

@@hoodiekid8439is it? can't remamber anything like that, but it's been a few years

[@peter-uy2iv]

@@hoodiekid8439 no

[@TatharNuar]

I used to use both Firefox and Chromium side-by-side. Now I'm only using Firefox. Ad blockers are a security requirement.

[@RaziMemeGod]

The FBI themselves reccomend it, that's how you know you need it.

[@HamguyBacon]

you do know google is the largest funder of firefox

[@personzorz]

​@@HamguyBacon and Firefox is superior and manifest v3 is a security threat

[@JMRVRGS]

​@@HamguyBaconsearch Hardened Firefox

[@jesarius.]

​@@HamguyBacon yes, but you can disable everything Firefox-related with BetterFox tweaks or even use fork like Floorp or LibreWolf

[@Voltra_]

Google: Let's make an update everybody will hate Also Google: Where'd the user base go???

[@default_user_exe]

Meanwhile normal users: we don’t care… so what if google gets my first born, i get free searches that are full of ads

[@A1stardan]

Bruh Google pays Apple in billions to just put their browser as default, they aren't even limiting thy ability to switch. It's just in settings which normies aren't bothering to do. That's how much little everyone cares

[@TopHatProductions115]

​@@default_user_exe *accidentally clicks on a malicious ad, gets heck'd*

[@xathridtech727]

​@@A1stardanum google doesn't pay billions for that because that's not real safari exist. That said Google does pay apple to be the default search engine. Still evil but it's a different type of evil.

[@BloodyMobile]

I'm looking forward to that moment, especially because M$ re-gained some userbase by replacing IE with Edge, but they too will then lose the userbase. Unless they refuse to take the upstream update and instead start building their own BS that will lose them the userbase eventually. Either way, I got my popcorn ready.

[@lofl6968]

Switching to firefox ain't enough at this point. I've now installed archlinux on every device and wrapped my entire house in tin foil. They will NEVER get to my runescape account

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

Programming socks desu?

[@gigaslave]

Just use a custom HOSTS.TXT file lol

[@Joemame]

it's crazy how youtube starts pushing several. 20+ second long unskippable ads and when people get adblockers to do something about it youtube just starts chucking a hissyfit

[@ehtrude]

As a Firefox user, I see this as an absolute win.

[@SuperCosmicChaos]

Yes push more people to firefox

[@BarbarasMilk]

Librewolf user here. Containers are convenient.

[@ehtrude]

@sbr9598 not quite hahah, but my pfp resembles a dragon, yea…

[@iawindowss4061]

@@ehtrude Man I thought for sure it was an llvm pfp still a cool looking dragon though

[@matt.w]

Yea, but it would be better if people used private browsers like librewolf

[@AlejandroMeri]

I don't understand why people freak out so much at the idea of trying another browser. The layout is a little awkward for like 3 minutes, then your brain goes "meh, it's okay" and all is well.

[@siriusmart]

true, all browsers work mostly the same on the surface because of web standards, had to be grateful for that

[@hammerheadcorvette4]

Then you discover how useful Firefox containers are and it's like "Yeah, This is good. . . "

[@logandunlap9156]

it’s mostly the discomfort of “why the fuck is this setting called this when it’s called this in the other browser”, which can cause you distress over a longer period of time than three minutes, just not quite all at once maybe a month down the line i’ll be like “hey where the fuck did this feature go” and i’ll have to rephrase a search query for like 5-10 minutes until i find out what it’s called on the new browser. yeah it’s not that hard to switch browsers but as with any change, it’s definitely never just three minutes of discomfort because you never know what features you’ll miss

[@AlejandroMeri]

​@@logandunlap9156 I can see that, usually ChatGPT can point you in the right direction. Though if you don't remember what "that" was called in the first place I can understand the feeling of something missing in the new browser.

[@alfamari7675]

Until you switch to/from vivaldi, and realize wow it's not like anything else.

[@taemien9219]

The biggest issue with ads is how they are vetted. Or rather the lack thereof. It used to be that ads were images or clips hosted locally on the website servers of the website you were visiting. So you were going to say microsoft and they had an ad on the side, that image was hosted on microsoft's server. Sometime in the early 2000s, this method was replaced by ad agencies who you would put a little code into your website and the ads would come from the ad agencies servers. Eventually this got 'smarter' and they started sending ads based on browsing history by looking through your cookies. This was a bit of a breach of privacy that only got worse over time as the methods of collecting data got more indepth, more intrusive, and such data was being stored and sold. The worst part was the ad agencies would not vet the ads they were displaying. You could see links to fake companies that could be phishing attempts to get information and steal identity by posing as real businesses, but also the ads were (and still do) had scripts on them that could hijack certain functionalities of your browser and install malware onto your computer. Allowing ads after they were no longer hosted by local servers for websites was always a security risk for the users and ad blockers also has the benefit of blocking the scripts so that users' computers were protected. With the update to chromium trying to remove ad blockers, they are putting many more computers at risk and users at risk for things like data corruption, malware infection, and identity theft.

[@cammyshill3099]

The moment ad blockers stop working on Chrome for whatever reason it's the moment I switch immediately.

[@rickdg]

Imagine using Google Chrome in 2024 🤔

[@siriusmart]

well 85% of everyone does use a Chromium based browser, and most of them don't even think about the existence of other browsers, which is why the browser space is so problematic - there is competition, but the competition is being ignored.

[@deejay4am]

It’s the new Internet Explorer. It’s railroading users into walled gardens they don’t want after finding market dominance, websites are developing sites that only work for it, despite years of effort towards open standards that all browsers match, and it’s not even the fastest anymore. Sad, Google, that we never seem to learn from the past.

[@ilyasna1]

I use a chromebook laptop and linux on desktop I have no choice other than sucking it up and using chrome on chromebook and firefox on linux

[@kPyGJIbIu]

​@@siriusmartchromium isn't google chrome

[@friendlyfire7861]

@@kPyGJIbIu No, but it's the same foundation, and if chrome/chromium take over everything, there will be no alternatives and no escape.

[@omri9325]

Ad block is required to prevent my eyes from burning due to mobile gaming ads

[@jamesking2439]

It's also pretty important for security.

[@claycassin8437]

What? You don't like the buxom Princess stabbing the little troll guys with a sword?

[@braddofner6407]

I don't even play mobile games... and the ads are pervasive at best. Honestly I am so used to ads, I just make a mental note to not use that company and move on. I figure if they have to advertise like this they must not be worth buying.

[@FireFoxDestroyer]

And the dating ads omg

[@spearuneko]

@@braddofner6407same i mostly play blur and honkai impact lmao

[@u200b5]

People who is going to firefox: Have fun with Firefox's speed, security and one of the few non-chromium based browsers!

[@link_team3855]

pretty sure the only other browser not chromium is safari. And... technically, i know most of nintedo's built in browsers are proprietary also but they arent exactly portable ... ... yes, the things they run on are portable, but the software only runs on that or an emulator of it. the software isnt very portable nor port capable

[@Gesteppie]

I've been using Firefox most of my life. I honestly have nothing to complain about it and even if it is slow now, with all the extra users its about to get, it will only give more incentive to Firefox to make their browser faster and even better. It's a win for me :)

[@linussextips2328]

FF runs like shit on older computers, like google is shit but they made a better browser, chrome launches faster on my core 2 duo laptop with an old 5400rpm hdd on win 7 compared to my 2nd gen i5 laptop with an ssd and manjaro, I'm not going to be using chrome and am typing this on FF but dont ever say firefox is faster because it just plain isnt, performance wise chrome smokes firefox

[@aftdawn]

​@@linussextips2328why in 2024 are you still using a core 2 duo?!

[@kokorochacarero8003]

​@@linussextips2328chrome launches faster on your core 2 duo because it's always pre-launched, running its own process in the background

[@chernobyl169]

Made the switch in August after the announcement. The SingleFile guy has it right: v3 is a major regression technically that takes away developers' ability to perform specific core functions that make ad blockers work correctly. Expect ad blockers for Chromium-based browsers to have an "unblockable ads" exception in their descriptions.

[@PlayerEngineer]

I feel like most of the chrome userbase isn't going to do anything about it and just drown themselves in ads.

[@hoteny]

As a chrome user, i will switch afterwards.

[@cynth4941]

I'll wait to see the changes, if it actually gets bad and I start seeing ads then I'll switch for sure. I even installed Firefox yesterday, and transition was smooth, with one button it copied all my passwords and cookies and bookmarks from Chrome, kinda scary that it can do that lol

[@simp-slayer]

If it gets to it, I'm making the switch. I used to primarily use Firefox long ago anyway so it'll be nostalgic.

[@bultvidxxxix9973]

@@cynth4941 Is is indeed scary that you are saving your passwords in the browser. Use a real password manager like KeePass for that.

[@siriusmart]

most chrome users arent aware of adblockers, so they cant drown twice

[@blackum]

the moment rumors about v3 started appearing i switched and never regret it since then

[@lboston4660]

Yup. Same here.

[@cybernit3]

Which browser you switch to? I have used Google chrome for years, but also use operagx. I think Microsoft Edge is chromium based too, hmm...

[@MetalMightGames]

Me too.

[@Grif_on96]

Yeah . Same storry with me . I miss chrome tabs groups . But in general switching from chrome to firefox was been pretty smooth for me .

[@bloodCaffeine]

@@Grif_on96 Not sure if it's related(haven't used chrome in years), but tree style tab extension is great.

[@brianviktor8212]

Watching ads would drive me insane, regardless of security concerns. Even if it's an image. If it's an animated graphic, or has sound, or worse, has both, my biggest priority just became to remove it. I don't care, I hate it, and I am not a consumerist moron. Plus advertisement will rather cause me to NOT buy the product that was advertised out of spite.

[@kraosdadafusfus8034]

Google is making an even worse mistake than the one Microsoft made by leaving Internet Explorer unupdated for several years, which caused its downfall and the return of the Browser Wars. If Google keeps this path, Chromium will fall.

[@yourikhan4425]

If my browser didn't block ads anymore I'll drop it and move on.

[@matthewbarabas3052]

i tend not to upgrade often, because i still prefer tabs *below* the addressbar and bookmarks, not on top of everything.

[@catlover9998]

Firefox is adopting Manifest V3 to ensure cross-compadibility, however they are not removing blocking webRequest and Manifest V2 support will be retained for the foreseeable future.

[@cewla3348]

librewolf > firefox >>> chromium browsers

[@zacharykosove9048]

What does that mean, i thought it didn't run on manifest V(anything)

[@siriusmart]

it adopts google's standard because they thought it was good, but they reimplemented everything themselves, so it might look like they are running the same thing, but they are running different things because mozilla has full control over their implementation, they will be supporting both V2 because they liked it, and V3 for comparability reasons i didnt mention it in video for simplification reasons

[@brxve]

@@siriusmart its not because they thought it was good. its because it is funded by Google. and they are likely to implement similar block to adblockers.

[@Tenko-san]

@@brxve unlikely but we'll see if they do implement that, than say good by to the web we know now and say hello to the return of the AOL Browser where you can only see what they want you to see.

[@ATBZ]

A lot of us forget that the people who know enough to care about this are a minority. I highly suggest informing anyone you know who still uses chromium browsers to switch to Firefox, and volunteer to install it for those in your life who aren't computer literate, because the new version of Microsoft Edge also uses chromium. And encourage them to spread the word too. If the chromium monopoly dies, then they won't be as keen on screwing the end user.

[@LAUCHGeorge]

I personally am using waterfox as my main browser, a modified version of Firefox.

[@iampete3710]

Waterfox? Gah dayum sounds pretty cool

[@friendlyfire7861]

Stop using chrome. If chrome/chromium take over everything, we will have no alternative. Use Librewolf or Firefox (with the right security settings).

[@xandermckay9806]

Or use Waterfox

[@gamr9655]

the only reason I'm still using a chrome based browser is cause youtube and other video playback on firefox is so laggy.

[@friendlyfire7861]

@@xandermckay9806 Correct. Kinda forgot about that one, but it's great, too.

[@friendlyfire7861]

@@gamr9655 That's funny; I have no problem with playback, and I use firefox for it. It might be something they fixed.

[@cape41]

my playback is super laggy on youtube firefox but I just use a user agent switcher which seems to fix the issue

[@knownstone]

This really is a safety concern since even FBI themselves recommends using ad blockers on the internet. Ads deally are a cesspool

[@DraxxDarlok]

When I have to use a browser without adblock I tell YT never to show every ad again out of pure spite.

[@potatobearsmo]

I used to use Opera, but I saw the writing on the wall when my video editing workstation got brought to its knees as soon as I tried loading a KZbin video for consistently exactly 23 seconds every time. Switched to Firefox, never looked back.

[@siriusmart]

Google claims that manifest v3 is faster than manifest v2, but an effective content blocker speeds up load speeds wayyyyy more than any browser updates could. update: inaccurate, read reply

[@pronpalunpo1066]

uBO Lite has been shown to load faster in tests, actually, and the most common ads are all blocked.

[@siriusmart]

@@pronpalunpo1066 the claim of v2 might be faster than v3 in real world use is a reference to the same EFF article where v2 with uBO vs v3 without any adlockers, i didn't think this comparison is fair but uhhh i guess update: i just realised uBO lite didnt exist when they wrote the article in 2021

[@siriusmart]

just realised something, if my understanding is correct, MV3 also banned remotely hosted content, with a publish delay up to 2 weeks google (specifically youtube) can easily break uBO lite if they want to, i dont know if that is how uBO lite works, or if the rules will only be enforced after June, but if it is true uBO lite is not gonna live long either

[@pronpalunpo1066]

@@siriusmart 1. A small amount of dynamic, a.k.a. remote-hosted, rules are allowed 2. That's already how uBO lite works 3. If you mean they just remove uBO from the marketplace, imagine the PR fiasco Google will have

[@siriusmart]

I don't know how strictly are they going to enforce their new rules, I don't know if they are going to enforce it differently after June, but they've already made a big PR fuzz when they added the adblocker blocker to youtube, and it is not impossible they will do it again. and no, uBO wasn't hosting "a small amount of rules" remotely, refreshing rules every 30 minutes is literally how they won the adblocker wars, and they are currently clocking in 15th by bandwidth on jsdelivr, so if they want to do it, they are going to do it www.jsdelivr.com/statistics

[@isweartofuckinggod]

I switched to Firefox ages ago for performance reasons. Every day I'm finding out a new reason why that was a good decision.

[@xritics19]

It's the same for me between firefox and chrome and I have the same with Linux and Windows. Every day, I'm happy to be on Linux when i see Windows becomes worse and worse with the time 😅

[@MisterZig0]

@@xritics19 I still have my Windows dual boot and if I boot it for some reason (last time was last autumn) after waiting a few minutes for it to complete old updates I have a chance that my mouse might work, everything feels sluggish edge pops up and there's unnecessary ads. On occasion it will also commit suicide and mess up the whole boot partition on it's way out. Then after a grub reinstall it works again.

[@kidades]

I'm with Firefox since the start. Never liked Chrome, even on release and just kept using Firefox. There was a period where chrome was better though. But in the end, I'm glad I never made the switch.

[@CaptainSeamus]

I work for a state university system - our main program for grades, assignments, attendance, etc etc got "updated" about a year ago, and it ONLY runs on Google. Our IT department used to tell us to use Firefox for everything... now we're stuck with Google. I've put in broken site tickets to both Firefox and the program directly... never heard a peep.

[@takumikid]

same

[@bestaround3323]

If the ads were actually curated at all and didn't result in a major reduction to the user experience. I wouldn't mind them as much

[@mjdevlog]

This is the fastest, most simple to understand of the whole Manifest V3 thing that i've found on youtube. Well done.

[@dizimo1188]

Brave, despite being built on Chromium, has its ad and tracker blockers built into the browser itself so manifest V3 won't do anything to it. It'll be a good Chromium-based alternative

[@AG-no8zq]

While it's true and the Brave devs already confirmed this, a Brave user is still a Chromium based browser. And all Chromium based browser users support Google's behavior because the amount of their users gives them power of big decisions like Manifest v3.

[@siriusmart]

another person said the same thing (about vivaldi) on lemmy, so im just gonna copy paste my comment on that (im less polite on forums, so sry for that) yeah but its not the same, sure you could mod your router or use a pihole to get adblocking, but it is not the same convenience as extensions, and by far ublock origin is the best adblocker no arguments raised. moreover companies can't really do much when they are completely reliant on chromium, and they can't do much except pulling PR stunts and try to sound like they are doing something while all they're doing is to merge commits from upstream chromium once in a while one example is the "we will continue to support v2" stunt by brave, which is not possible as they have 0 experience maintaining a browser, also vivaldi is **absolutely proprietary**

[@dizimo1188]

​@@siriusmart this is very true, although I disagree that Brave's ad blocker is less convenient than extensions as it's a core feature of the browser. It's still a good alternative to Safari, which has awful ad blockers, if you don't want to use Firefox

[@gilesstockman4913]

@@siriusmart the point is that brave dose not require WebRequest API for its adblock to function therefore whatever changes are made to Manifest will not effect how ads are handled on brave think of it as chromium built into an ad blocker. plus not all software needs to be open source to be good software if that is what you were implying i support some proprietary software and that is coming from a linux user.

[@shaunpatrick8345]

@@siriusmart Brave's blocker is more convenient than an extension because it doesn't have to be installed. It's not the code that determines what is the best ad blocker, it's the block lists, and Brave has access to all the same ones every other blocker does.

[@CRCinAU]

If only Firefox would finally support media stream selection - so you can select speakers / microphone devices to use. Such a basic feature in the modern world, and yet completely absent from FF. The request for it was made many years ago, and ignored completely.

[@MisterZig0]

Doesn't it follow what you have set in your sound server? Usually works fine for me. (using pulseaudio)

[@CRCinAU]

@@MisterZig0 Yes - which is useless. I want Teams to use my headset - not the default sound output. I want it to use my headset mic - not the laptops onboard mic...

[@mariobot128]

@@CRCinAU that sounds like an extremely specific thing ngl, like i don't really know anyone which wants one app on their speakers and another one on their headset, though if the request was really made long ago i agree it's quite annoying, i just think that's not something they would think about while developing the browser

[@CRCinAU]

@@mariobot128 it's the very reason why Discord, Teams, Zoom etc have a degraded experience in Firefox.

[@craigmccune6066]

@@CRCinAU you can set everythning to use that mic in windows. not a perfect fix, but it will work for now.

[@MorganEdgy]

Shout-out to Firefox forks and Vivaldi for protecting us from these predatory practices

[@quaffie]

vivaldi is based on chromium like most other browsers

[@MorganEdgy]

@@quaffie okay, and?

[@Ko4shi]

Will Thorium be affected by this too? What about old versions of google? Cause i like firefox, yey, but it lacks some things that i do in chrome, plus idk i've reinstalled windows, now its clean, fast, but before that, when i tried out firefox, some sites were not working, or they would be slow af, for example when i tried to watch twitch/kick streams/vods it would be slow, laggy, the next moment i open them in chrome and its fine, plus there was big scrollbar in the chat window, and some sites would have default scrollbar tho i know it was different on google, like ugh maybe it's fixed but idk, i would switch only after i know that its over for chrome

[@pfitz4881]

Bottom line is you can not trust Microsoft or Google to stay out of your personal information. Firefox to the rescue.

[@FBI_Agent_69420]

I remember back when Google were all about pretending they care about user's privacy, and net neutrality and such. Back in the good ole days, when they didn't have enough money to be openly anti-consumer.

[@Spr7ritus]

If you have Windows installed on pc or Android, than Microsoft and Google will mostlikely know everything about you anyway. As a Microsoft user, having an MSN or Outlook Email adress is one of the best options. So your already compromised system sticks to one tech company atleast.

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

@@Spr7ritus I don't think "them" knowing everything about you is the issue. It's the fact that a lot of the targeted ads can be intrusive, distracting, and even be used to mine more information out of you that can be used by other nefarious parties. Blocking ad-blockers is also hilarious as some sites can even be compromised by bad actors using their ad space. So the fact that Microsoft knows about you (Kind of a given since you purchase a key, register with your information, store autocomplete data etc.) isn't an issue.

[@Spr7ritus]

@@Unethical.Dodgson As far I see that discussion, its more about big tech company taking too much data about their customers. So I answered from that point of view.

[@superslash7254]

Mozilla decided one day they didn't want people to use translation plugins. So they not only removed them from the extension list, not only blocked you from installing them privately, they would go so far as to maliciously delete them off your hdd if you somehow worked around their block. Firefox isn't any less malware than chrome, it's just less widely used.

[@noahg2]

The worst part is not a lot of people (even those who work in IT) are not familiar with adblockers, I work as a Software developer and I found only 2 people in my company that use adblocker, they didn't know what uBlock means or have used it before.

[@siriusmart]

its kinda ironic that the FBI recommends adblocker as a web browsing necessity yet the people creating the web for people to browse dont know about it

[@FBI_Agent_69420]

@@siriusmart those geeks never do listen to us

[@siriusmart]

@@FBI_Agent_69420 there are two types of IT people, the one that landed a high paying sysadmin/frontend webdev job, and those who lurk linux communities. those who only IT for their job never struck me as geeks (also nice name)

[@amandak.4246]

my company doesn't allow me to install adblockers without permission 😐

[@Crowbar]

Pretty much everyone at our software developer company uses ad blockers

[@seanydog]

Does Firefox have the same profile thing that Chrome has? I regularly use synced profiles on different devices(like 3)

[@tjtheknowledgeseeker7878]

Indeed it does

[@HeskanWyrmblood422]

Brave is a Chromium browser, but it has ad and tracker blockers built in. Will this update also break those?

[@JMRVRGS]

Switched to Firefox before the Manifest V3 Switched to Linux before the Windows 10 (End of Support) Switched to Open Source instead of Proprietary

[@Dexter01992]

Slowly getting there as well. Windows is next, but m$ sure is doing its best to speed up my need to switch away from any of their products.

[@Acti1337x]

same

[@GraveUypo]

i've never went to chrome to begin with. i've been doing the last one for a decade. in process of switching to linux right now. dual-booting for now but i'm planning on getting a 4tb ssd just for linux and slowly phase out ntfs from my pc (right now like 12tb of ntfs stuff)

[@JotaleaGG]

Switched from a nostalgic OS to a very fast one and configured it to be slow but really good-looking

[@JotaleaGG]

also, by "slow" I mean "faster than any windows version would run"

[@KiranasOfRizon]

By the way, Firefox will still be getting any new functionality *added* by Manifest v3, but they won't be *removing* any APIs that are no longer present in the Manifest. So it won't be like Firefox = Manifest v2 while Chrome is Manifest v3 but rather, Firefox = Manifest v3++

[@roslin8060]

Definitely going to switch to Firefox... 10 years ago. Also using Brave on the side occasionally. While extensions will get the axe the built-in blockers will still work since they don't use the Manifest API.

[@UnderscoreBread]

is ungoogled chromium gonna break too?? where do i download unfired firefox?

[@Damariobros]

After being a faithful Chrome user all my life ever since it first came out way back in the day, I made the jump to Firefox after I built my first pc nearly a year after I graduated high school. After installing Windows, instead of installing Chrome, I instead used Edge to install Firefox, and I've been really really happy with it ever since.

[@siriusmart]

glad u found a browser more fit for downloading firefox

[@scootsmcgoots]

Good for you. I used to love Chrome, but ever since Google started just being straight-up evil...

[@MisterZig0]

@@siriusmart We all know the best way to get firefox is probably during the distro setup or to get and compile it yourself.

[@lightsymrak2516]

Well, after 11 years, it seems like i gonna return to Firefox

[@bibasik7]

Won't Brave's built-in ad blocker still work?

[@emeraldguy10]

It will unless the project is abandoned. It was just thrown in without realizing it’s ad blocking is not done in the same way as extensions do.

[@MrAw3sum]

Brave also won't be affected by manifest v3

[@lilithstenhouse267]

That's great to know. I migrated exclusively to brave almost a year ago now and have had zero complaints. It's so much better than chrome in so many ways, from mobile to desktop.

[@hasanyigitsar6264]

thats so relieving, firefox is unusable on mobile and brave is irreplacable for me

[@MrAw3sum]

@@hasanyigitsar6264 glad it works for you, mine was glitchy so gave up on brave

[@meraak1]

brave lmfao

[@Jelte_Dijkmans]

Firefox is going to get a lot of attention now.

[@pkalman2045]

the ppl who use these extensions will switch away, those who don't won't be affected at all. this is nothing but a weeding of the userbase. they won't gain any money, heck they might even lose some, bc of the drastically decreased number of users. Good job Google, absolute gigabrain move. Chrome had a good run with a bad ending. RIP

[@MeBeinStreams]

Y’know what still has extensions… OPERA GX

[@pkalman2045]

@@MeBeinStreams like firefox. I'll be sticking with the latter as i don't trust ogx as much (i'm not even sure if it isn't chromium based) but it could very well be better than chrome

[@violinher0]

​@@MeBeinStreams opera gx is chromium

[@horticultural_industries]

@@MeBeinStreamsI’m confused. Opera is based on chromium and thus will run into the same problems

[@MeBeinStreams]

@@horticultural_industries oh sh**

[@Gelatinocyte2]

How can I transfer/copy all my bookmarks from Chrome to Firefox on mobile automatically? I don't have a PC; I need an easy/convenient way to switch to Firefox without basically starting over.

[@Stevo.100]

I've been using Firefox for nearly 20 years. Never stopped.

[@awesomekalin55]

Firefox actually disabled Manifest V2 by default now, however it isn't being removed at all, and can still be enabled. Safari never used the standard and went the Apple way of doing everything their own way. Brave will keep Manifest V2 for another year through a policy change

[@siriusmart]

how would brave do that? they may be code changes made on top of the code changes (of MV3) and it would be extremely painful for them to maintain this mess, and not entirely sure if it is just a PR stunt or if they are doing it for real TLDR: we'll see

[@riseabove3082]

Love Brave....but if ads ever start popping up in Brave, I'm dumping it.

[@awesomekalin55]

@@siriusmart There's an enterprise flag that will remain until 2025 which allows businesses to keep using v2. Brave will just enable this flag for all users

[@C-aFilms]

i guess im going to be forced to use tor

[@asdfghyter]

knowing that this was planned to happen soon, the moment i experienced an annoying bug in chrome (that was actually fixed by just rebooting my computer) a few months ago, i just instantly switched to Firefox and haven’t looked back since

[@C-aFilms]

audio renderer error? i get those A LOT

[@asdfghyter]

@@C-aFilms no, my strange bug was actually that for some strange reason all chrome windows were set to always be on top, so i couldn’t view any other program without first closing, minimizing or reducing the size of all chrome windows

[@Crewface28]

what if your on opera gx and using ublock that way even tho i have youtube premium. nevermind i don't i switch thou but i think i be fine

[@Pandacier]

Man I love these goofy drawings with browser logos and small bubbles yapping about other browsers

[@UnderscoreAngel]

chrome users: WE ARE DOOMED!!! firefox users: i sleep.

[@user-kr6ih2gz5l]

Brave will also support mv2 extensions as long as possible ~ there are even talks about retrocompability with Firefox mv3/mv2 extensions (I don't know how that's going to work exactly). Brave shield will keep working as usual, and it's a bad content blocker either. Since Firefox will support mv2 indefinitely, might as well use it. *ck Google.

[@RougeTheGato]

cant even update google chrome because our computer uses an older operating system and chrome says it wont get any updates. will the change effect older versions of chrome? Will ublock still work on chrome versions before manifest v3?

[@siriusmart]

I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND U UPDATE CHROME, most browser updates fix vulnerabilities commonly exploited, there are a lot of bad actors out there and it is most important to use a secure, up to date browser lmk if u couldnt find any

[@crazydude5825]

If money is tight and you can't upgrade Windows - or just don't want to - migrating to an up to date version of Linux is another option to use newer software and keep your computer secure. It's really not that hard to use, just might take a small adjustment period (no worse really than learning Windows). I would recommend Linux Mint if you are new to it, that distribution is designed for users used to Windows. I moved to it recently and actually found it much better for what I need. But like Siriusmart said, it is very important to have an updated browser, as one of the main ways viruses get in is through browsing the internet.

[@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360]

It depends on Google's decision of course. But I guess they wont make such update for old OSes.

[@MisterZig0]

@@crazydude5825 Could be an old mac though too. Might be more difficult to install Linux on that though from what I've heard.

[@exceptionallyriso]

I've been using brave for a few years at this point, is it better to switch Firefox?

[@labrek01]

Yes. All chromium based browsers will be affected. you should switch to a gecko based browser such as firefox or librewolf (a privacy focused browser)

[@Thursday-qw5pj]

​@@labrek01alright no more brave for me now

[@bhargavjitbhuyan9394]

How about a virtualization based adblocking environment? Wouldn't be a genius idea? Also, Couldn't I just edit the source-code as chromium is open-source and fork it to compile with preinstalled extentions to block ads.

[@adambester3673]

Im so old that I had already gotten used to firefox being my "new" browser years before chrome came out and I never saw a reason to switch. I use chrome the way people used internet explorer in the early 2010's, only when things demand chrome to work like they used to internet explorer. Honestly I just hope that this drives enough users to Firefox to at least make it relevant on the market again like if 15-20 percent of chrome users switch it would be a huge shot in the arm for Mozilla.

[@chris_rnj2163]

Been using firefox for about a year, never felt the need to change browsers again. I have it both on my phone and pc, and unlike chrome, I can install ublock origin on the mobile version as well. Firefox is just really simple to use, never has issues, loads everything really fast, and it was simple to migrate from Brave.

[@princessmaly]

How do you move the tabs to the left/right side of the window on firefox? Sounds like something I'm gonna have to learn, anybody know how?

[@siriusmart]

extensions extensions, firefox is a bare bones browser and customisation is not predone for you like other uncusomisable chromium browsers some other keywords u might want to know if u like customising the heck out of ur browser are - firefox colours (extension) - about:config - userChrome.css

[@dennylukman1801]

I view this video on Firefox app on android tablet. It's just curious why mine tablet heats up, perhaps I Open too many tabs?

[@DearFox]

I've been using LibreWolf (a fork of Firefox) for a few months now, but I've noticed some performance degradation compared to Chrome, and I'm still not sure what's causing it.

[@BladerKev]

Google sabotaging other browsers.

[@gt8200-0]

If it's on KZbin where you notice it's slow, it's Google slowing you down like the other guy said.

[@GedanJ]

​do you know if these browsers are available easily on mobile? I use android and rarely even watch youtube on chrome/computer so if that's a browser verses app issue and the browser is otherwise good or better comparatively i wouldnt be opposed checking it out

[@eldonad]

​@@GedanJFirefox has a mobile version available. With a Mozilla account you can even sync your history and tabs between devices, and it supports extensions too, including uBlock. I've been using it for years as my default browser. It doesn't feel as polished as Chrome due to it being lower engineering power and younger, but it's still perfectly serviceable.

[@HappyGick]

I use Brave, which is based on Chromium, but the adblocker is undefeatable because it's baked into the browser. And it doesn't replace ads, it just janks them. So I think I'll continue to be ok. Opera should follow suit on this.

[@bubmario]

Really? I use Brave, but its built in ad blocking didn't work with KZbin's new adblock crackdown. I had turn shields off for KZbin and just enable uBO as the default blocker. Thinking of just going the pihole route pretty soon.

[@HappyGick]

@@bubmario Maybe you need to update. It continues to work for me.

[@bubmario]

@@HappyGick That's great - i stay up to date with Brave, so that's not it. Guess the trackers are just aggressively going after me!

[@KinsukeTenko]

@@bubmario Very odd. I have yet to see a youtube ad on Brave browser.

[@TheMiracleMatter]

HUH !!!!????? *I* have the Brave web browser since New Year 2020 iirc and I was never bothered by YT ads during the recent adblock war !

[@corrinflakes9659]

Which alternative would be the most user friendly to get my parents on? I’m trying to look out for them here. Firefox has issues for older generations.

[@lobizonsereno]

Is chromiun open-sorce? if so, I think that the other browsers that uses it can make something, or who knows, if it is that catastrofic maybe can emerge another paralel project without that. I have that hope, but who knows.

[@vinny-zeb]

There's plenty of Chromium forks with adblocking already embedded and we don't know what they will do once MV2 gets deprecated

[@siriusmart]

if their adblocker is implemented in a browser level, they would not be affected, as MV3 only affect extensions, but its still a dick move from google for cracking down on extensions

[@cheesium238]

Firefox stll getting a Sunday allowance from Google is still a problem though. We all know Google keeps Firefox around in the case they have to fight a monopoly lawsuit or regulation, but their stakeholders may still get mad in the long run and ask Google to stop.

[@siriusmart]

personally i really hope duckduckgo would sponsor FF instead, but idk if thats possible

[@GraveUypo]

@@siriusmart if firefox blocked google from donating i'd donate a few bucks to them everyday. but i'm not just going to add to a pool that google has majority on, sorry.

[@joveymcjupi4455]

@@siriusmartDuckduckgo made exclusions for Microsoft for tracking purposes. They also have a track record of censorship. Bravesearch is probably the only alternative out there if you value this stuff, hence they just have their own thing and don’t piggyback off of Google of Bing.

[@miguelhervaspalomares5978]

@@siriusmart duckduckgo is a little suspicious about it's transparency and it is not completely open source.

[@siriusmart]

i disagree with their censorship on russia media, but the brave affiliation url injection incident made me completely lose trust with them

[@problyNotJava]

i currently use opera gx cuz i like the layout if it gets obnoxious i'll just switch and either try to find a plugin to mimic the layout i like or just get used to it

[@ydobemos]

It's so over man. This might be the change to push me away from chromium :/ "5000" iq move from Google

[@Alex-cb5go]

I'm using Safari right now, and I will use Firefox when I finally close all my tabs (or Safari Crashes them for me).

[@kouchka09]

im switching to firefox

[@ZeyLogger]

I already use firefox in my phone, not too much because its a bit slow, and I tried on pc but I haven't changed yet, I don't know if the synchronisation is good there and the scroll is a bit weird, but I will probably change, I just need to update a lot of things, starting from my OS so I don't know if its gonna affect me unless websites just get better this change seriously sucks because most websites are almost impossible to use without an adblocker, I don't think there is even any regulations with the ads, there is no limit on how annoying and sketchy ads can get, I know its in a way the adblock's fault but that doesn't justify making the experience worse for normal users because they will start to use adblock too

[@TheDoomer666]

didn't know my good ol' reliable Brave is coming to an end too, I'll wait and see if it shows yt ads, at that very moment I'll throw 'em away and download firefox

[@siriusmart]

brave is like, fine, you'll still get your built-in adblocker, but 1, you cannot install adblockers as an extension, 2, tracker blockers (e.g. privacy badger) will not function as well as before, there's nothing wrong about continue using brave if you're already using it, its just that firefox is slightly better and making the jump would benefit in the long term edit: given the rate they are shitting on chromium

[@dreammix9430]

Someone once said, The only thing that Chrome is good for is for is to use it to download Firefox

[@siriusmart]

i thought thats edge

[@dreammix9430]

@@siriusmart I think it applies to both :-)

[@jordanwardle11]

They said that about internet explorer to download chrome

[@scootsmcgoots]

@@siriusmart MS Edge is a great alternative browser downloader tool!

[@TheMiracleMatter]

Yeah that's a really old joke. I first heard it in college during the recession.

[@ianrager]

"Are you going to make a switch before the update?" Bro, I don't even have to switch, I've been using Firefox for *_years._*

[@FloridianPriest]

I remember picking firefox when I was a kid because I liked seeing the orange fox on my desktop. It's served me well all these years and I'll never give it up

[@Konym]

I don't see how all Chromium based browsers could be affected... If Chromium is an open-source engine (which it is), then can Brave, Opera, etc. not just fork their own branch of Chromium? (if they're not doing that already)

[@siriusmart]

the changes are made to the very core of the browser with scattered everywhere, and with every proceding update making changes to the already changed code, it is impossible for forks to remove this feature without completely branching off the main project and thats how you hijack a foss project

[@eijentwun5509]

@@siriusmart This is WHY we need a Browser NOT based on ones from Companies like Google or Microsoft and YES even Firefox. Nor any of their created technologies. A browser from Scratch.

[@Konym]

​@@siriusmart Makes sense, thanks for replying. Do you defeat this by just inspecting every commit that gets made and, if it affects your MV3 workaround, locally commit your own new workaround immediately afterwards? Sounds like a hassle. Then again, hopefully not too much for the big projects I mentioned.

[@MisterZig0]

​@@Konym The only reason they're using Chromium is probably to avoid the hassle of maintenance so at that point there's no reason to use Chromium.

[@JynxSp0ck]

@@Konym The problem with modern software is it's so ridiculously bloated (Chrome has 30+ million lines of code) that it's pretty much impossible to maintain for anyone that isn't a tech megacorp.

[@karpabla]

The question is, in first place, why use Chrome? Except for the users cases where Chrome is especially fitting, why, unnecessarily, increase the power of a toxic big corporation? I use some Google things when I think it is a good product and there is not another reasonable alternative. Same for other big tech corps.

[@siriusmart]

its UI looks pretty clean actually, and to normal users it does exactly what it is advertised

[@MisterZig0]

@@siriusmart Firefox default dark theme is so much cleaner (and actually dark) than chromium was when I last saw it lol and with firefox color you can customize so much and doesn't firefox also do everything as advertised?

[@spearuneko]

I only use Google because of Google classroom. I use Bing since a long time ago for searching

[@llewelynshingler2173]

I used Chrome because, for a time, it was alright as Browsers go. Then Google pushed me into Firefox

[@sincerely_sillikers]

i would switch to a different browser but i have certain extensions that i can't get anywhere else :/

[@Wahinies]

Does this affect the base Chromium browser or just Googles Chrome?

[@siriusmart]

all chromium browsers

[@ttrev007]

I don't use an ad blocker for KZbin. Their ad policy has been quite fair. The problem is that some websites are unfunctional with all their ads on it. I will be down loading Firefox so i can use it when needed. I have to much stuff on chrome to fully jump ship.

[@maximumPango]

interrupting music with commercials isn't "quite fair"

[@miguelhervaspalomares5978]

@@maximumPango or asmr videos

[@strigoiu13]

@@maximumPango if you live in a less developed country, youtube premium is cheap

[@serily4524]

For what?, some worthless ad skip and trash series?, paying for an already free service is the most dumbest thing u could have ever done, youtube already has enough money to run the whole website itself, they dont need any more money, just switch to adblock, you dont need to pay for a free service, stop giving money to a billionare company for their free service, they dont need it​@@strigoiu13

[@serily4524]

"Ad policy has been quite fair" no it wasn't and it will never be fair, its GARBAGE, nobody truly likes ads unless they wanna support someone, youtube is a free service and we shouldn't pay a single penny for it, stop bootlicking google boots, their whole anti ad block campaign is bs and makes no sense, people have the freedom to tune out the annoying noise of ads they dont like

[@Ferrochrome12]

Firefox was the first browser I really started using back when I was a kid, my mom was an earlier adopter in 05/06. I've stuck by FF since then, tried chrome when it was new but never really liked it. Firefox was always good, I hope it starts to get the recognition it's been sorely deserving.

[@xiarno3373]

Honestly I want to use Firefox but I'm just sooooooo used to Chrome that it's super hard to switch. (Also I heavily use the two profile thing in Chrome and I cannot find a way to do that in Firefox)

[@silatanarazuma]

Is this affect Firefox or not?

[@DaveEtchells]

I’m a little tied to Chrome because I rely on so many extensions :-/ Once upon a time I used FF exclusively, but it was so bad about memory usage and memory leaks (my simpleminded explanation for the problems I had with it crashing or eating all my resources) that I moved away from it - but maybe it’s gotten better that way over the last few years(?) I only use Chrome for specific work-related use cases though; all my “personal” browsing is on Safari. (Stupid question: Can Firefox run Chrome extensions?)

[@siriusmart]

yes and no, modern firefox is pretty nice, and it should be able to run all chrome extensions, *but* if in the unlikely case where the extension dev is lazy and only uploaded their extension to the chrome web store unless you are using some really niche like under 1k user extensions, this shouldnt be a problem

[@FireyDeath4]

I don't care. They can't beat me using a video speed extension to make the ads play at 16× and then go back to normal. Besides, even if they remove all the extensions for it, I can probably make my own, and if I really have to I can just go in the console and do it manually

[@spearuneko]

What extension name?

[@FireyDeath4]

@@spearuneko Maybe "Video Speed Controller". Just look it up on the extension browser

[@R_E_D22]

why use a video speed extension when you can just use an ad blocker and never see the ad in the first place

[@FireyDeath4]

@@R_E_D22 Because the ad-blocker might not work (currently it does) and I want to show how much even anti-ad-blocking fails to help. Nobody beats a video speed extension >:P

[@TheMiracleMatter]

Unfortunately (I can already see it coming) Google will probably work around that with some kind of timer and refuse to deliver the video feed to the client until after the amount of time the ad is supposed to take at 1x speed. I bet this will be the next step.

[@nobbyfirefly57]

Floorp is great! It’s Firefox but better! With great customisation and vertical tabs! Litterally, it’s a Firefox fork!

[@Absolute_LUNA-C]

my school forces us to use google chrome, but they also forcefully install an adblocker onto it. wonder if this’ll get them to switch to firefox.

[@user-xu3so2ug1f]

brave has this shield built in, so they might add this thing extra rights, since it's not an extension ig. So I'll see and if it really doesnt work anymore, switch to firefox

[@robertgaines-tulsa]

I guess that's all we can do.

[@TheMiracleMatter]

Completely agree. IDK why anyone would switch away from Brave NOW (yes there are). It's an ad, it's not gonna kill you or give you an STI ;p. Wait and see.

[@HappyDappy]

Hey Siriusmart! Hope you are having a wonderful, marvelous, and spectacular day! I thoroughly enjoyed this video regarding information about Chrome's nonsensical updates regarding the use of adblockers. It was both extremely informative and also very helpful. In my humble opinion, I too, agree that I hate this new update, despite not even knowing about it until recently, because I live under a rock. I have come to the conclusion that I will be visiting you tomorrow, at approximately 6 P.M. local time to discuss personal issues such as college application and tax evasion with you. I am quite excited, and I hope you will be too. One last thing, your artwork is both pathetic and breath-takingly beautiful. I don't know how that works, but I think it's really cute and you're really cute and you should marry me. Marry me, Siriusmart. If there were 8 billion Siriusmart fans in the world, I would be one of them. If there were 100 million Siriusmart fans in the world, I would be one of them. If there were 10 million Siriusmart fans in the world, I would still be one of them. If there were a hundred Siriusmart fans in the world, I would still be one of them. If there was one Siriusmart fan in the world, that person would probably be me. If there wasn't a single Siriusmart fan left in the world, then it is because I am no more. Siriusmart, my love. Siriusmart, my light. Siriusmart, my darkness. Siriusmart, my life. Siriusmart, my joy. Siriusmart, my sadness. Siriusmart, my pain. Siriusmart, my rest. Siriusmart, me. ... As of today, I am withdrawing my support for Siriusmart. Starting today, Siriusmart and I become one. An attack against Siriusmart is considered an attack on me. Who is Siriusmart? To a blind man, he is the eye. To the hungry, he is a cook. To the thirsty, he is water. When Siriusmart argues, I agree. When Siriusmart speaks, I listen. Damn it, it’s Siriusmart again. I was going to go sleep after reading watching my last youtube video, but I ended up seeing Siriusmart. Now I have to worship... I have to worship, even though I know I'll wake up when I start worshiping. That is the mission of those who witnessed Siriusmart. Now, let the worship begin. Siriusmart was a woman. It was a man. It was a girl. It was a boy. It was a child. It was an animal. It was Abraxas. It faded into a speck, then became large and clear again. At the end, I closed my eyes, following the clear call in my heart, and now I saw Siriusmart only in my heart. Stronger and stronger, I tried to kneel before him. Siriusmart . The light of my life, the fire of my body. My sin, my soul, my fire, our condemnation is Siriusmart. -Love, Dappus, #1 Siriusmart Fna

[@siriusmart]

[@HappyDappy]

@@siriusmart :)

[@thisnameisbad3609]

what

[@thevalarauka101]

I'm confused

[@spearuneko]

dawg?

[@Danc3R4ve]

I mean i could be wrong but i read a blog from Brave saying the upgrade to the new manifest would not affect them since they are keeping it in their browser specifically for adblockers.

[@simonebertolucci5152]

I always used Firefox and honestly I'm excited for Manifest V3 as it will probably mean a renaissance for my favourite browser. That said, wouldn't it be possible to fork Chromium and make a community-developed version with the WebRequest API still intact? Or are there legal/technical challenges to this?

[@siriusmart]

there are no legal challenges, technical challenges, the changes made for MV3 is all around the codebase and removing those changes would lead to complex merge conflicts

[@Maldroid]

This doesn't affect Adguard for Windows, so I have no reason to switch.