Government: Christian Worldview with R.C. Sproul

[@ligonier]

This message is from R.C. Sproul's 12-part teaching series Christian Worldview. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/christian_worldview/

[@ObsinanMekuriaDadhi]

it is very very nice sermon which is life changing. I have loved Dr. R.C. Sproul very much.

[@luisaquino5309]

The Greatest Theologian of . the 20th Century.. The beloved professor Dr. Robert Charles Sproul.. RC Sproul.. I miss him... But, he is with his Lord and Savior.. JESUS THE CHRIST!!!*** "Name Above All names!!"

[@kathleenrutherford733]

Praise God! Our Heavenly Father is always working EVERYTHING out for GOOD

[@tracesofheaven-giftbandit3094]

Around 5:00 minutes RC explains what Israel was going through in Rome. RC: "is Paul saying we all have to be subjected to the religious authorities of the Sanhedrin? Or to the Theocratic authority of the state of Israel? He's writing to the Romans. (Believers) He's talking to those living under: • a secular govt • a corrupt govt • a govt that's opposed to the very principles of Christianity." A MESSAGE PERFECT FOR TODAY!

[@RichardGKhan]

I'd buy if I could. I could listen to Dr Sproul any opportunity I get. He is a scholar extraordinaire.

[@pappypeep8347]

Perfect timing for this message. Ty for sharing! ALL glory to Jesus Christ alone!!! The only One to ever obey any government perfectly. May we strive daily to be like our Savior.

[@avecoronado5877]

Just started following RCs preaching. May God bless with it.

[@avecoronado5877]

Bless me with it rather.🙂

[@annmcrath536]

Excellent teaching.

[@thatblondielife3475]

This is such a needed message! Thank you!

[@leemartin9579]

Great teaching! Amen hallelujah🙌 praise our Lord Jesus Christ!

[@ThejaTseikha]

Very timely for what's going on in the States currently.

[@JesusAlleineRettet]

This message clearly have spoken to my heart to change my personal view about government

[@BraydenWolframe]

Amen Sproul. Very stirring sermon for our current times. The Lord is our ultimate Authority, may we praise Him forevermore. God bless you all.

[@surenshrestha6405]

Such a relevent message! How wise of you to publish it at this time!

[@geniusworld9045]

Dear Man of CHRIST! Thank you so much!

[@bparrish517]

Thank you, Ligonier. I needed this today.

[@Lukethomasfire]

Very good timing! God bless!

[@RichardGKhan]

I wish I could. But believe you me this message by Dr Sproul is so relevant and need of the hour not only in the USA but in Nations, where we live as followers of Christ.

[@philtanics1082]

If only RC could see John MacArthur this last year. He would be so proud.

[@bechet12]

I personally don't care for John MacArthur! Any pastor who in a phone call with Donald tRump explicitly stated that no true Christian could possibly not vote for Trump needs to seriously look in the mirror and ask themselves who do they really serve and what do they really believe!

[@arrondaniel5783]

@@bechet12 So as a "Christian" are you willing to vote for a PRO-CHOICE, PRO-LGBTQ, PRO-FEMINIST, PRO-ABORTIONIST and GOD-HATING party? And it's shocking to see the Pharisaic likes you have on your comment.

[@bechet12]

@@arrondaniel5783 this is why you must spend more time absorbing what's in the gospels and let the character of Christ shine through you! We are not called to be appendages of politicians! Fyi, I haven't voted in 8 years. Look at this logic... I am African-American. So what is the logic of voting for someone who claims to be against marriage equality and abortion but who supports rampant greed, hatred and racism? In my view, you either stand for the complete hatred of sin or you dont! If you don't then there is nothing you and me have to talk about!

[@bechet12]

@@beithamidrash1960 that's what you believe! I do not. It is rather shameful for a Christian to align him or herself with a morally bankrupt person to accomplish what is believed to be God's will. There is no example in New Testament teaching that furthers this view! If a pastor is suggesting who I am to vote for, then he wouldn't be my pastor much longer!

[@johnsanders3877]

@@bechet12 I agree with you! I have been listening and supporting R.C. Sproul's ministry for years and he's not teaching what Aaron and Briet heard him teach here. God ordained and installed Biden's administration so we are to submit to his administration to honor Christ. The same was so for Trump who was a sinful and unrepentant man. It is God who appoints our leaders!

[@asahelnettleton9044]

If Ligonier has lectures about Knox's theology of resisting tyranny, it would also be a good time to post that.

[@jus2bme02]

Probably do for a price

[@SerenityNow22]

@@lolaguide4648 dictators aren’t generally voted out of Office FYI

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

Theresa Guidice Ah yes, the dictator who left office after being voted out.

[@jerryvivanco4898]

@@lolaguide4648 Dictator????? How clueless can u POSSIBLY BE???

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

I'm not hearing Christ in any of these comments

[@ads06.1]

I genuinely wonder (and think about) how this applies and pertains to the founding of the US. Without turning the discussion sideways or into one of friction, I wonder this knowing that the first "shot" that was fired and heard 'round the world was possibly fired from a British musket, but it is evident that the colonists were harassing and instigating a much smaller British contingent physically intimidating and even threatening them as they were outnumbered. Leading up to that event, colonists also used violence and threats to intimidate and agitate Boston Governor Thomas Hutchinson (burnt his house down while his family was in it and had to escape for their lives) and British General Thomas Gage, which led to both of them returning to London. Their crime was that they were seen as loyalists to the crown even though Governor Hutchinson was supportive of American unification and independence but under the crown. History is what it is and I'm thankful for America, but I do wonder about the origin and beginning in the context of G-d's Word and will for our lives as Christians.

[@danielasturm5878]

Very timely WORD

[@Nick-od3vd]

Thank you! I think we, who are living in free democratic countries, have redefined govt and redefined persecution to remain comfortable.

[@RedDeckRedemption]

One of the more memorable sermons I remember from over a decade ago, by the Late Gary Hendrix (his sermon is one of his from his series in Romans, and what he preached on Romans 13) (his sermon is on sermon audio if you wish to hear), he gave a very well explained application of how "honor the king", and obeying government applies for us in a democratic government. For us at least in the United States, and for the other nations who have adopted our model of government, the founding fathers created our Constitution as the core rule of government and law for the nation, that all elected politicians are obligated to obey. He explained that with this, the "king", isn't a person or persons, but a creed(the constitution), a written law which is to be absolute. Similar in form In the way that the Bible is for us, "The word is God", in the way every command in Scripture obligates our obedience, the Constitution's instruction obligates obedience from both the people and the civil rulers. (This isnt only for Americans, but every nation which has a constitution) So he then applied that obedience to what Scripture says about obeying government, the constitution is our object of obedience (as long as it doesn't violate God's law) So when politicians overstep and violate constitutionality, and command something that violates our core laws, we have no obligation to obey them, as those politicians themselves are criminals in violation of the king. John Macarthur has a great sermon on this subject as well. He draws parallels to how our relationship to government is to be, to how marriage is to be. Especially to how women are "to be submissive to their husbands". This, in the law of God does not mean absolute no matter what blind obedience. If the husband violates the vows, commits adultery, or other severe betrayal, attempts to force her to commit sin against God, the wife is Not obligated to stay submissive but has the clean right to leave without moral penalty. And when you break it down, it is because the man broke oaths, and committed severe, willful betrayal. This concept, which explains God's line of thought in scripture, can be applied to our relationship to other human authorities. (For if one gets married, a spouse is also authorized by God, wether it be for good or for judgement. So it is how government is put over as authority. If a government runs rampant with evil, commands evil with its laws, violates justice, especially today where politicians swear an oath, which God takes seriously, to uphold law and justice. So if they violate their oath, they are done, you have no obligation to obey, support, fund, participate in their treachery. We held the Nazi's guilty all the way down to the basic concentration camp guards, they were morally obligated to resist the great evil of mass murder even though it was commanded against their will. Even if it cost their lives, they should have resisted. Can you say they have any excuse? They have none. Resisting a human authority is not automatically a sin, sometimes not resisting is the greater sin. Yes God is sovereign over all governments, but that doesn't automatically make all governments good. Some are raised up for judgement. He removes his Grace and evil runs rampant. When a government acts in Justice which is in line with God's law, they are to be obeyed, but if they act in evil, compliance= complicit in their evil. We are not commanded to turn the other cheek 100% of the time, otherwise it would have been a contradiction for Jesus to say " if you do not have a sword, sell your tunic and buy one" The end answer is to use great discretion, to study well God's law, for in it we understand Him and how he judges us. Blind obedience to the world is not what is commanded. For even our obedience to God's law itself is not blind, He desires our study to thoroughly learn and know that His law is absolutely good. In contrast, if we study a worldly government's laws and their actions, we see nothing but sin, evil, and violations of justice, save the minority of leaders who obeys God.

[@jaconel3361]

Thank you!

[@rynomacamillion]

Thank you, this has helped me a lot🙏🏽

[@Xavierlite712]

Thank You, Sir.

[@tombrice6631]

Very interesting lecture

[@honawikeepa5813]

God is omnipotent, all power has it's origins in God.

[@christistruth705]

This has been explained as well in the Truth Project lessons 9 & 10.

[@gnieu1278]

The Sword is the Word of the Lord God .....the Sword came out of His mouth 👄.....the Word.... Jesus is The Living Word....the True and Living Lord God

[@JosephSchubert-ww7yj]

"God has not commanded you to live a life free of suffering."

[@Shockice]

Christ is the final Authority.

[@lyndelld1]

Now what do you do when a government is a corporation like ours?

[@christianl.musicentertainm7396]

Wow just wow

[@treehouseofliberty3167]

17:00 very good

[@bechet12]

After reading his book on the same subject, I walked away with a mixed view! It appears to me by action that some Christians support the rejection of some sins over others! Pure and simple!

[@GazpachoMacho]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a vid of Sproul so young.

[@joakimmendy]

Hi @ligonier ministry, thanks for your videos . I wanna know what exactly is 2 Peter 3:9 and 1 John 2:2 is talking about. Please help me with sound thoughts. God bless you 🙏. Greetings from The Gambia 🇬🇲.

[@ligonier]

Thanks for your question, Joakim. Our Ask Ligonier team doesn’t currently have access to our KZbin channel, so we encourage you to make use of the live chat feature on www.Ligonier.org or at ask.Ligonier.org. We have a team of well-trained agents available 24 hours a day, six days a week to answer your biblical and theological questions in real time.

[@joakimmendy]

@@ligonier thank you

[@joshuatheo1419]

www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/lord-patient/ www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/whole-world/

[@joshuatheo1419]

Also, kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXqzkpWwYpVkors www.salvationbygrace.org/Audio/1John/03_1John_2_Vs_1_to_3.mp3

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

There is a very simple answer to the question. "Therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 4 No man that warreth **ENTANGLETH himself with the AFFAIRS** of life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. 5 And if a man also strive for masteries, is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully" 2 Timothy 2:3-5 (KJV)

[@katielee4892]

Such a pity you didn't add the puritan notes on Romans 13 that King James didn't allow in his KJV. The puritans actually lived through tyranny and their notes would of helped us today in Australia.

[@jessyjonas4988]

Holy Scripture is very clear Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's Give to God what is God's Amen

[@am25deek]

What year is this video recorded in?

[@asahelnettleton9044]

Based on the video quality and Sproul's approximate age, I'd guess the early 1980s.

[@memetagi4827]

JESUS SAID ! MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD!!

[@zritel.viewer]

Hi there, KZbin folks. I'm a male christian from Russia and I'm asking you a question: What do you think, should I obey the government's order to go to Ukraine, if they announce full mobilization next year? Personally, I consider this special military operation in Ukraine as an act of expansionism, which I can't accept as a "self-defense" type of thing; so I've decided, if the order would happened to obey as long as they allow me to protect our motherland borders as the borders were present in 2013. I think it'd be way better to put our resources in the way of life; saving people, saving animals; to build, not destroy.

[@SashJ.McMishmosh]

Go to ukraine serve your motherland

[@jeshurkumar8613]

Brother, I think you should ask our Lord in prayer and He will guide you and answer you in a way you will understand. This will be the best path for your future.

[@walkinlove930]

Love the hairstyle it is such a throwback

[@His-Story.ForHisGlory]

RC never had the best hand writing but I can hear him lol

[@Arulrajprince]

R.C.Sproul ~ GOD HIMSELF stands behind the world Governments using them for HIS ends and HIS Glory but principally as an instrument of the restraining power of evil.

[@christistruth705]

@Tanielu Stowers - I think he’s quoting Sproul.

[@TheSiewkng]

Bad government is better to no government ,otherwise anarchy abounds

[@GeoffBosco]

24:38 "Pure anarchy is the law of the jungle." What on earth is he doing quoting that Marduk worshiper Hobbes? I love RC, but this is some of the weakest argumentation I've ever heard from him. He's right about a lot of stuff but, then he just off a cliff here and there. It's clear he has some understanding of government systems, but it's also very clear he hasn't studied much political philosophy, beyond the ones that led up to the American Revolution. Which is ironic considering according to his logic, that war was rebellion unto God.

[@justindiddler101]

If you’re looking for a philosophical or political take on government you shouldn’t be watching a theological/biblical view on it.

[@GeoffBosco]

@@justindiddler101 For better or worse, this guy's tradition played a huge role in the ideas that became the US. But, I thank you for replying. I've been trying to find this clip for months.

[@robanddawnramcharan6408]

If there is any form of government recognized by the Bible other than anarchy or some form of more or less benevolent despotism, I haven't found it.

[@wesparsons5331]

Where does the Bible recognise Anarchy as a legitimate form of government? Where does the Bible approve of despotism? The Monarchy’s were subject to God’s moral codes, Kings were removed and dynasties destroyed because of sin.

[@berglen100]

Imagination laughs at blind actors, It is in you as a person that the nature of God is revealed, for a scriptural episode is not a record of an historical event, but a parabolic revelation of truth. To see Jesus or David as an historical character is to see truth tempered to the weakness of your soul. You must see what the characters represent, rather than the characters themselves. This is true for every story in scripture, for every episode will unfold within you.

[@chuckburley3362]

The supreme rule of the United States is the Constitution. The Governing Body is ultimately the people. Government are all representatives of the people. When the Government doesn't follow the Constitution they are (resisting God) and are the criminals and should be removed. This is not a Democracy, its a Constitutional Republic (Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men). Bet your church is a 501C3 corporation. If that's the case your authority is the government not Christ.

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

Good timing, lol

[@julesscangojr.35]

Would have been good timing 4 years ago as well. More importantly 2 weeks ago.

[@JohnMoog-ug6bk]

Augustine’s view sounds Hobbesian here

[@delicheres]

😳 ????? To restrain evil ? 😳 excuse me ?

[@intangible8]

...by design Daniel 4:27 “Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable to you: break off your sins by practicing righteousness, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the oppressed, that there may perhaps be a lengthening of your prosperity.”

[@c.g.ryderii2405]

According to scripture, God sets up and tears down ALL Kingdoms, that includes David's and Nero's (remember Nero tore down the temple and killed many Christians) The scripture says to pray for your leaders, it doesn't say you pick them, it says God does. From what I see, a nation is appointed a leader (by God) based on their rebellion to or faith in God. If we want change, then revival is needed, change the heart and pray. Just how I read the scripture. I used to be very political, now I'm waiting on Jesus and His Kingdom. Much love friends.

[@wesparsons5331]

Who do you call when you’re attacked or your house is robbed or your car stolen? Want to see unrestrained evil? Remove all accountability for crime and sin and you’ll see there is a vast difference between living under a corrupt government and living with none at all…

[@delicheres]

@@wesparsons5331 a corrupt government will confiscate my guns and I’ll be defenceless, no government and I’ll be in charge of my home again !

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

It is so sad to hear these delusional people try their best to amagalmate the the Kingdom of God with the world. The bible teaches us very clearly that God is NOT interested in the operations of the world, but He is very interested in saving souls out of this world, by the preaching, teaching, and witnessesing of born-again believers, proclaiming the Good News of the Gospel of Christ, whereby whosoever hears, and/or sees our witness might come to Christ by faith in His Atonement, that they shall not perish when they leave this world. Galatians chapter 1 verse 4. 2nd Timothy chapter 2-verse 4. 2nd Peter chapter 3 verses 9 thru 14. Intellectualism and so-called Seminarian teachings are void, and fruitless and makes the True Gospel of non-effect! Sproul is a calvinist! Beware of false-teachers. Research calvinism!

[@davidhogg8721]

Dr. Sproul, may I respectfully remind you of St. Matthew 16:18 where Jesus tells Peter that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church? His Church was founded on the apostles and the prophets with Jesus as the capstone. May I wonder if you have thought deeply about what exactly you have done in founding the Ligonier Ministries? In effect, what you have done is: 1. decided the gates of hell did prevail and that you, therefore had to found the "true" church ...? 2.in turn that means you believe Jesus was a false prophet in claiming the the gates of hell would not prevail. May I suggest that is a very dangerous road for you to tread? Since Jesus' Church is founded on the apostles and the prophets with Jesus as the capstone, that Church must have an unbroken apostolic succession from the time of the apostles until the present day. Jesus founded the true Church, not you. Some humility is in order? Look forward t your reply.

[@davidhogg8721]

@Tanielu Stowers I did not know that ... I had watched a video which included him fulminating about the RCC ... not very knowledgeably let it be said (written). But that is fairly typical ... those who criticize the RCC can't get their facts straight. One amusing criticism is that Catholics pray to pictures ... but they do not accuse the Jews of praying to the wall when these sincere Jews are praying in front of the Wailing Wall. May we wonder why?