Massad Ayoob Explains Making A Brief Statement After A Self-Defense Shooting. Critical Mas Ep77

[@TMTLNETG]

A statement, even a brief one, after something as traumatic as a self-defense shooting is bound to have errors. The best thing is to only give a statement after the shock and adrenaline has worn off and only with a lawyer present. Never give a statement right after shooting.

[@motomikebuilder]

I faced a domestic violence charge with an intoxicated ex. The cops at my door wanted to rough me up. I saw it in their eyes..Had I not told my side of the story, initially not believed, They would have cuffed me right then. However, a Sheriff cadet was jogging by at 3 am and saw that she fell out of a car with liquor bottles falling out. She face planted and he came by, told me to dial 911. Our stories matched and I was saved from big trouble. Thanks dude, whoever you are in the Martinez Sheriff Dept.

[@morgan3688]

In other words, what you said meant jack shit, and you almost went to jail on a DV charge that would have robbed you of your right to keep and bear arms because you felt you had to defend your good name, instead of force them to follow the law. (Instead of criminally assault you as you say they seemed to want)

[@rickyyo215]

@@morgan3688100%.. ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU! ANYTHING YOU SAY.. Not maybe used for you. AGAINST YOU. Anything you say.

[@NOTurbuisness-r5q]

So she got drunk, you beat her, and what ..?

[@motomikebuilder]

yep. lose my contractors license. single parent 15 years ago. It would have been a mess.@@morgan3688

[@The_Kirk_Lazarus]

This post made absolutely no sense.

[@viator21]

As someone who’s been in a shooting. Don’t talk to the police. They are not there to help you.

[@ilovetech8341]

Agreed. At most, maybe a general statement of self defense, stand your ground... but never go into details.

[@ElPikante503]

They there to convict you and take your rights and guns away

[@crjr3545]

Say Little Approach: 911 call: name, location, “I was attacked”, “I was in fear for my/their life”, “I had to defend myself/them”, request police and ambulance. Responding officers: Same as above, adding: identification of any exculpatory witnesses/evidence, request medical attention for yourself, “I assert/invoke my right to silence and an attorney.” Investigators: Say nothing. Assert your rights to silence/attorney.

[@rrtnps]

I would reconsider using the phrase "I was in fear for my life" check out a video that the Armed Attorney's did about using that phrase. I think it's in one of their speaking with the police videos.

[@PrivateJoker1386]

In my very first carry class years ago, the state police detective said something similar with a bit of a variance. "There's been a shooting" not "I shot someone, I was afraid, etc". The dispatcher is trained to try to get you to say things on the recorded line that will be used against you - don't play into it. When police arrive, "I'd love to cooperate with your investigation and make a statement however first I'd like to consult with an attorney" FULL STOP.

[@glennrishton5679]

@@rrtnps I was going to mention that phrase thinking to police it will make the same impression as "I cant breath" repeated at ever increasing volume or "I didnt do anything" .

[@britainreynolds7365]

Your 911 call approach already has a huge flaw. It cements your legal theory. If your defense decides a different legal theory would have been better to argue in court than the one sentence one you gave the police, it's too late, unless you want prosecution to ask why your reason changed. Better: Get someone to call the police for you, and if you have to call them, keep it vague. "There's been a shooting. Send help. Here's the address. Goodbye."

[@PrivateJoker1386]

@@britainreynolds7365 agreed 100% don't say anything other than reporting the shooting

[@Sandhill1988]

Yes sir, agree. I'm both a USCCA and NRA member and yes on the rear of my USCCA membership card it states the brief statement as follows... Comply: Follow all police instructions Explain: " I was attacked, feared for my life and had to defend myself". Identify: Point out evidence witnesses and attacker. Medical: Is request medical attention, if necessary. Silence: " I will cooperate 100%, but first I need my attorney". (Do not talk further without your lawyer present.)

[@jrich5895]

The thing that makes this topic so harrowing is that there are lifelong consequences for each action. Defend yourself, say the wrong thing, and prison may be your new home. Do nothing, and you or your family member might be buried. Then add in the anti gun prosecuters and DAs, and it only makes this minefield more deadly. Thank you for these videos, I bought the book you suggested. I pray I never have to use my gun. I also realize that carrying a CCW is not something you just do. There's so much more. Where are you, what's behind you, who's behind your line of fire...

[@NegativeROG]

I agree with what you said, but one point sticks out- "...anti-gun prosecutors and DAs..." That's why I live in a Red state, where my home is my castle, and it is a God-given right to defend myself, my family, and my possessions. That should be taken into consideration, too. Living in a gun-hating blue state will get an innocent homeowner jailed waaaaay before the criminal breaking into his house. Peace!

[@jrich5895]

@NegativeROG I live in a state that goes both ways, red and blue. We have the castle doctrine, too. Just be mindful that criminal court is one thing, and civil court is another. One can still be sued via civil court wise, and that can be VERY costly as well.

[@SinCityVillain]

@@NegativeROG I mostly agree with your main idea but do you seriously think because you live in a ' Red State" the DA/Police etc are going to pat you on the back, high 5 you and say "Nice shootin, Tex" and just let you split? No, of course not. Sure, your chances might be better of not being tossed in prison, but, it's still their job to find fault and prosecute. I'm guessing there are lots of people in your state that get sent to prison for shootings. Like I said, I agree that you're better off in Texas than Cali. Again, i'm not trying to trash talk you but it's just not a simple situation based on Rep or Demo state or your political leanings. God, let's both hope neither of us has to use the guns for anything other than hunting or training!

[@seanfoltz7645]

Let's not forget that even if you do get found not guilty that you're looking at thousands to tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees.

[@chuckintexas]

NO Y-T "Read more" . Where's the end of your comment ?

[@InternetSearchBibleErrors]

Always drop in for Massad he is the best they got for the videos

[@LuisOrtiz-uj2ve]

Not on this one lol

[@britainreynolds7365]

Except when it comes to making your case immensely harder to win in court, apparently

[@JustAClownInAClownWorld]

@@LuisOrtiz-uj2veopinions vary and every situation is different and can play out several ways. Just know if you could have walked away from a scenario they will expose it. If you’re truly justified then you really won’t have to explain that there was no other choice. Don’t point it if you aren’t willing to destroy it because if and when it happens everything has already gone wrong. I understand why you are thinking what you are but not everything is always cut and dry. And in a liberal state you better be in the right.

[@chuckintexas]

@@LuisOrtiz-uj2ve "I was attacked (or my friend or neighbor was attacked) and *I was in fear for my (their) life* , and acted as necessary to defend my (their) life . This person attacked in THIS way for THIS reason . Here is evidence and the weapon used (SECURE WEAPONS from being "removed" from the scene) , there are the witnesses . I will FULLY cooperate , and I know you're only doing your job , but I will only say further with my attorney present . I now need an ambulance to go to the hospital . " _YOU_ *MUST* call 911 YOURSELF and MUST request POLICE _AND_ AN AMBULANCE for both YOURSELF _AND_ anyone who may have _sadly_ SURVIVED the shooting , and for ANY VICTIMS of the malicious shooter . But GET *LEGAL ADVICE _AHEAD OF TIME_ . I have USCCA . Consider GOOD advice . Massad Ayoob is considered one of the BEST . Act with PRUDENCE and wisdom , prepare ahead of time if you decide to carry or use . *DO **_NOT_** RELY* on You Tube OR YOU TUBE *COMENTERS* for ANYTHING _you_ decide to *DO* .

[@chuckintexas]

@@JustAClownInAClownWorld - "I was attacked (or my friend or neighbor was attacked) and *I was in fear for my (their) life* , and acted as necessary to defend my (their) life . This person attacked in THIS way for THIS reason . Here is evidence and the weapon used (SECURE WEAPONS from being "removed" from the scene) , there are the witnesses . I will FULLY cooperate , and I know you're only doing your job , but I will only say further with my attorney present . I now need an ambulance to go to the hospital . " _YOU_ *MUST* call 911 YOURSELF and MUST request POLICE _AND_ AN AMBULANCE for both YOURSELF _AND_ anyone who may have _sadly_ SURVIVED the shooting , and for ANY VICTIMS of the malicious shooter . But GET *LEGAL ADVICE _AHEAD OF TIME_ . I have USCCA . Consider GOOD advice . Massad Ayoob is considered one of the BEST . Act with PRUDENCE and wisdom , prepare ahead of time if you decide to carry or use . *DO **_NOT_** RELY* on You Tube OR YOU TUBE *COMENTERS* for ANYTHING _you_ decide to *DO* .

[@shanehorstmann9735]

Never talk to the police for any reason ever.

[@zachg9065]

Cop: "Hey how are you?" You: "I'm, not talking to the police I want a lawyer!"

[@leokimvideo]

Brought back memories of a Police shooting in Australia at Hornsby where a female Police officer opened fire on a mental guy who escaped a psych hospital with a knife in a busy mall. Yep bullets fired and 3 innocent people were shot. Police confirmed Sourian (the knife man) did not stab anyone and the three bystanders were shot, who include an 82-year-old woman and 65-year-old woman, are in a stable condition in hospital.Footage from seconds after the shooting shows the female police officer apologising to one of the elderly women who had been shot. Remember this is gun free Australia and this shooting went VERY quiet after the event. The Police have magical powers after these shootings. Joe Public has nil magic powers.

[@seanburke997]

Problem is, most people will have a hard time composing such a brief statement well, and then resisting police pressure to continue interrogation. The best thing is to have *you're attorney* make a brief statement. I find it very hard to believe that your example case was represented by counsel, because an attorney would have already developed a narrative a spoken with investigators long before court

[@Yoda052]

It’s very important that after your “brief statement” that you state, out loud, that you wish to speak to your attorney, AND you wish to remain silent. Some police CAN take complete silence (not asserting your right to remain silent) as an admission of guilt. Make certain you say, “I assert my right to remain silent until I consult my attorney.”

[@JustSayN2O]

Remember what Rittenhouse trial Judge Bruce Schroeder told District Attorney Binger after Binger mentioned during the trial that Rittenhouse chose to remain silent? It doesn't matter what the police think in this circumstance. They're not the lawyers, judge, or jury. Your premise is incorrect.

[@timothyplumley9285]

Wrong. Supreme Court ruled that if you answered any questions. Then stop. That can be considered admission of guilt.

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

Yeah it’s called the 5th Amendment loophole. Silence can mean guilt unless you expressly say you are exercising your right to remain silent until your attorney is present.

[@userJohnSmith]

Police can think whatever the fuck they want. No lawyer thinks Masad is right here. Say lawyer, then shut up. Your silence means nothing. The end. Until your lawyer tells you to talk, don't.

[@BatCaveOz]

"Some police CAN take complete silence (not asserting your right to remain silent) as an admission of guilt." Please provide a source.

[@mp3920]

Thanks for your videos! Always sound reasoning and advice.

[@davidbegor8709]

Excellent! Thanks Mas for sharing your knowlege and wisdom. Its priceless.👍

[@71TFFC]

Massad is very passionate about law abiding citizens and keeping them informed.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Interesting how MA brought up the Armed Attys who are on IG too 🤳🏼. I've watched their video content now for around 12mo. More ccw users & armed officers: security, LE, corrections need to understand case law 📂 legal use of force events.

[@TheFeebleClone]

Yea, he's a good cop. But he's also an advocate for the cops, and there are way more crooks among cops than he lets on. Your lawyer is your advocate. That nice detective who acts like your friend is not your advocate. Their job is important. In my view, waiving your rights does not generally help them.

[@joeschnell5695]

I love the way Mr. Ayoob presents his videos. He is very thoughtful in his presentations. As a first time gun owner at 63y.o., any insights he has that might apply to me now or in the future, I will take to heart. So thank you Mr. Ayoob, you have just gained another subscriber.

[@MrMaxwell]

Ayoob is still stuck in the 80s. NEVER talk to the police now with recordings and mass politicization of the justice system. Times have changed and our self defense tactics have to as well

[@dalepres1]

So you made an interesting argument. Now just qualify, convince us that you're the expert we should follow on these matters, by telling us just exactly - plus or minus a hundred or two, if you want, how many gun shootings you have been involved with in the courts, either on the stand or behind the scenes as an advisor. Get within even a few hundred of Massad Ayoob and then it might make sense that we get our advice from Mr. Maxwell. *Waiting for your numerical rather than defensive reply*

[@1watersthree]

That’s why after give your brief statement and ask for medical attention, invoke your right to an attorney. You will be too high on adrenaline to think clearly and recall facts clearly. If there’s any slight difference in anything said that body camera picks up and what you say later in the interview, a prosecutor will focus on that and you never know what a jury might think.

[@walkingwolf8072]

@@dalepres1 Ask that same question of Mas?

[@dalepres1]

@@walkingwolf8072 We know his credentials. I've known his work for 40+ years. Who are you?

[@therealrobinc]

​@@dalepres1Lame appeal to authority. Fallacy in argument. Must be another dirty & lazy cop out for low hanging fruit arrest.

[@brooksmorelock5545]

When I took my classes at Thunder Ranch - The recommendation was to briefly state that state the situation and that you were in fear for your life and that you had eliminated the threat and that you would cooperate after speaking to your attorney. Then say goodbye to your firearm. Also when the case goes to court the prosecutor will recount that brief statement that you gave. Made a lot of sense to me

[@Hibernicus1968]

An interesting thing as the the two lawyers from the Armed Attorney's channel that Ayoob mentions in this video says _not_ to say you were in fear of your life -- don't use those exact words, at any rate. As they advise, you most certainly _do_ want to convey the information to the detectives investigating the incident that you were in fear of your life, you just don't want to do it with that exact phrase. According to them, it's become such a commonly heard phrase in such incidents, that it now sounds like something memorized and repeated back, and this makes it sound artificial, and therefore likely to arouse at least some suspicion. They advise you to say something else that comes across as more natural, such as "he was gonna kill me!" or "I'm sure he meant to kill me," or "I thought I was about to die!" or something along those lines.

[@waynecastleman1363]

The guy spent weeks in jail untill a hearing and he was dismissed, an office said if he had known this would not have happened. Where was this guys attorney, he should have been out within 24 hours.

[@elix901]

Likely didn’t have one and public defenders suck.

[@waynecastleman1363]

@@elix901 Yep they charge a lot money 💰

[@walkingwolf8072]

Weekend, plus one day if it is a holiday. I take anything with a grain of sand from somebody that claimed they killed a snake by missing it. Thunder Ranch did a video proving it to be a lie.

[@P_RO_]

@@waynecastleman1363 My first Attorney was also a friend, and one of the nuggets of wisdom he gave me before passing on to a better place was this: "The jails are full of poor people whose biggest mistake was not paying for a decent Attorney."

[@brianbaird1503]

IDK, if he couldn't afford one, a public defender should have been assigned to him.

[@ultrageek01]

Before I received my conceal carry permit over 30 years ago, I purchased and read the guide recommended by the Sheriff's Office "A Consolidated Guide To Firearms Laws & Licensing". It was a must-read at the time. Massad's 2nd Edition "Deadly Force" was so far beyond that old guide that I would go as far as to say that anyone carrying without knowing the concepts in that book should not be doing so. This video touches on Chapter 14, "After the Shooting". But there is so much more mental preparedness needed that everyone needs throughout those pages. It can’t be easy to boil down such a complex subject into something that the average citizen can absorb. Thank you, Massad!

[@horseohana]

I am so happy my Lawyer is my neighbor.

[@jessicagrecco5813]

Give us his number and name

[@silverado6194]

I am so thank full for Mr. Ayoob's teaching. God Bless you Sir and your family.

[@lyndonwillms9668]

I have to agree with the middle ground to say almost nothing. I've seen people walk themselves into jail using their mouths!

[@MrWebster]

That brief statement is just an opening for you and cop to start a verbal sparring match which you will not win. You think the cop won't interrupt that statement with all kind of questions and statements meant to incriminate you? Heck they do that even in simple traffic stops.

[@bigboots6114]

@@MrWebster yet you dont have to answer the police questions

[@MrWebster]

@@bigboots6114 In that case say nothing to begin with.

[@bigboots6114]

@@MrWebsterits a choice you have because nowadays DA's will go after you

[@oldtwinsna8347]

@@MrWebster If that happened I'd just respectfully ask to not be interrupted and if incapable, please have an officer assigned to take my statement that can professionally do so.

[@marksd5650]

Thanks Massad. Always interesting and your message is heard.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I have been following you for several decades, in your articles and videos. Thank you for so many years of enjoyable information. You are my "most trusted" gun guy.

[@flatdaddio]

I will not talk to the police. Many like myself pay for self-defense insurance. The insurance companies provide guidelines for the course of action if you are involved in a defensive situation. It's best if you follow their recommendations. Giving a statement goes against their advice. If you give a "brief" statement to police you may not be arrested that moment, but you may be arrested at a later date. The investigation don't end if you make a statement. It may go on for many weeks. Every state is different! Many states will bring your case to a Grand Jury. That's where the decision will be made if you will be prosecuted or not! It's not up to the police! I would rather sit in jail for a short time and speak with my attorney before making any statement! The police and state are NOT on your side!

[@rickyyo215]

100%

[@jackorbit7258]

Thank you, Massad. I appreciate the balanced advise.

[@Maddad_39]

Never talk to the police! Ever! Have your attorney speak on your behalf or don't include the police at all.

[@chestnutlouie4709]

Mr. Ayoob, please go into detail about putting your hand on your gun, displaying it at low ready, pointing but not firing. Actions that one might take in a dangerous situation short of pulling the trigger.

[@dagneytaggart7707]

Yes. I want this. With overeager DAs, letting your gun be seen is brandishing. How can you inform a potential perp they should move along without being charged?

[@alexander1902]

The Armed Attorneys covered that pretty well in one of their videos. Check it out, definitely worth a watch.

[@rrtnps]

@@dagneytaggart7707 Not answering on Massad behalf but it depends on the situation to say if your brandishing or having it in a ready position because of the reasonable threat you perceived.

[@P_RO_]

On dealing with a drunken fool who wanted to start a fight, an ex-con I knew told him "Please don't make me go back to jail. I don't want to go back there for another 32 months. Please just leave me alone." Seeing that this guy was sincere and unflinching the drunk thought about it for a few moments then walked off grumbling.

[@P_RO_]

@@dagneytaggart7707 In SC merely letting your firearm be seen in any identifiable part is illegal. I know someone who got nailed for setting a rifle next to the door inside of his house because in doing that he was visible to the troublemaker who was at the street yelling at him. Know your laws.

[@DanDawgAZ]

I love following Massad. Most of us on here are experienced shooters and practice both self defense and home defense situations on a regular basis. However it is information like this that can be critical to not having to be removed from your family that you had just protected. This is pure gold...please pay attention.

[@seanfoltz7645]

Yeah - I've been shooting for 45 years now, but sometimes I watch his videos and feel like I've never even saw a gun before.

[@zachansen8293]

Being arrested is FAR from the worst case. Going to prison for decades is. That's what ACTUAL defense attorneys are trying to avoid. They don't care if you get arrested (at least at a high level) - they want to keep you out of prison. That should be your goal too. You don't know at the time if others will view this as a good shoot.

[@bobstorey645]

Love Critical Mass! Excellent advice.

[@aaronholmes8568]

I could listen to Massad all day long. Always learning from him

[@acousticallyspeaking]

I love when Mr. Ayoob starts yelling and getting mad. The passion is there. Love it!!!! Thank you for this video. It is something we all should know. Keep up the great work!!

[@Namara-LongAndLovinIt]

Thank you for all you do! I share many of your videos on my humble Facebook group. I am currently in a battle with Facebook over “ community standards “. I will keep posting Xcellent information such as this. Thanks again for all you do! Tom

[@JoseLopez-ix1bv]

"Duh"🤣🤣 The most serious use of that phrase ever. Love your channel, thanks for the advice.

[@andyluckey6556]

Thank you for your wise words, Mas.

[@kurtpietrzak9168]

Never been in a shooting but as a Paramedic have been called to many shooting scenes. I have had many folks babble and then what I call brain run so fast that mouth couldn't keep up was truly weird.

[@marchanson711]

We need a workshop on what a brief statement sounds like, and perhaps some practice writing exercises and role playing with various personality types typically seen in the field of law enforcement. Thank you.

[@bbbcfitchburg2563]

As always your advise is spot on based on “experience “.

[@walterstrahota2956]

Very powerful content. Thanks!

[@skywalker8461]

Would also recommend Deadly Force by Massad Ayoob. Good read, 333 pages, and you get a copy when you join ACLDN

[@MRLUGNUTS]

Massad .., I respect what you say so much . That I re watch your early videos and still find them interesting , because each time I do... I learn something I missed.

[@Blacksheep12267]

I've been in a number of confrontations throughout my life. God be praised I descellated the situation.

[@DavidMosby]

I remember seeing that Prof Duane video. He had some convincing points. As always, Mr. Ayoub has the best practical advice.

[@C-M-E]

Retired FTO/PPO, and doing my due diligence, my renewal for Armed Citizens is coming up. While I wasn't planning on jumping ship, I do shop around every year to see what else is new and their assorted angles. Knowing what I do about field investigations, I'm 100% on board with the Brief Statement, or as every training officer will tell you, 'Just The Facts, Jack'. Point of the matter here, the singular highlight in this video for me was the point of view of 'the brass' on these defensive shooting coverage companies and what they tell their members. Knowing that weeds out future trouble indeed, but from the consumer side, Mas saved me A Lot of digging on that point as you'll likely not find that on the plan literature.

[@ThomasHarrison-u8l]

I follow the Armed Attorneys channel. The things you learn from them is gold.

[@zachansen8293]

Are they willing to be your self defense attorney? AOR is. They say "just shut up"

[@ThomasHarrison-u8l]

@@zachansen8293 Daniel Perry was convicted of murdering Garrett Foster here in Austin was because he gave statements that changed. Tom Grieve podcast spoke about why this happens, and I believe that this channel spoke about it. There is a very fine line between cooperating with law enforcement after a use of deadly force, and saying too much. The defense attorney for Mr. Perry spoke about the case after the verdict, and had several issues with the jurors on the case. Ultimately, the judge felt that the issues could be addressed by his jury instructions.

[@TheFeebleClone]

@@ThomasHarrison-u8l Definitely a fine line. If you choose to carry a weapon, you have a responsibility to think in advance about that line. Not cool to see people stressed out, traumatized and then say something bad cops or the prosecutor will twist around.

[@davegrove795]

Always the best. Clear and concise.

[@GypsyBrokenwings]

As usual no nonsense solid information. Being "in fear for my and my loved ones lives" stands.

[@garrettstiles7808]

Sorry Mas, but you’re wrong here. Your arrested-then-released example? Much better to spend a day or two in jail than years in prison and a lifetime as a felon. There’s a reason the vast majority of defense attorneys - licensed professionals in the practice of law - say don’t talk to the police w/o counsel. At the very least you want a witness to ensure what you actually say is captured correctly.

[@1watersthree]

That is correct. Defense attorneys generally say only give a one sentence statement saying the other person attacked you and that you had to use a weapon to defend yourself and that you need medical attention. After that hang that phone up because they will try to ask questions about how many rounds or what position you were in. Those types of questions are things they love to confuse people on just so they can make you a felon. Your attorney can get all that information out at a later time.

[@garrettstiles7808]

@@1watersthree yep. I love Mas and respect his advice, but he’s a cop. You have to take into account where the advice is coming from.

[@brianbaird1503]

when you don't say ANYTHING, you are NOT conveying the intent to cooperate.

[@da1nextdoor2every1]

@@brianbaird1503 Whether the police perceive you as cooperative or uncooperative is totally irrelevant. It's a matter of what the evidence is. Nothing you say can help you, but is can sure as hell hurt you. The cost-benefit here is absolutely clear. Saying nothing is your best course of action.

[@FraterMerovius]

Always worth listening to Massad Ayoob. The man is nothing short of a national treasure.

[@zachansen8293]

When actual defense lawyers say that he's wrong, then you have to be careful what you're listening to.

[@dalepres1]

@@zachansen8293 I would bet money that Massad has been involved in far many shooting cases in court than probably any lawyer in the world. I've seen some online videos from actual lawyers, lawyers who claim to be Constitutional attorneys and 2nd Amendment attorneys who are absolute idiots and who clearly have almost no understanding of the Constitution, its history, the history of cases, and the 2nd Amendment. Additionally, but separately from that, consider also that The Brady organization, and Everytown, etc., are all staffed with lawyers who literally are experienced 2nd Amendment attorneys. Being a Constitutional or 2nd Amendment attorney does not, by itself, say a thing about the motivation or experience of a person. There's no certification standard for being either. There are laws that limit who can say they are attorneys but there are none about who can add the Constitutional or 2nd Amendment qualification to their being an attorney.

[@TheFeebleClone]

Listen to him but he. is. not. a. lawyer.

[@bryantcochran5065]

Sage advice, thank you for explaining this. I hope I never need to use it but now I'm prepared for the worst.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

As Massad Ayoob clearly states: if you carry a loaded gun, you CARRY the lawful accountable & legal obligations. In 2024 there's no "yee haw" f*** the law or the 2A is my carry permit" trash! As Active Self Protection says; you won't be at my gun fight & I won't be at yours!

[@gblargg]

8:19 The problem is that a citizen who is intending to follow the law but goes afoul in some way unknown to them. The brief statement advice works only if you KNOW that nothing you've done is criminal, which you'd have to be a lawyer to be sure of (even then maybe not). I've watched lots of videos on this topic and neither side has ever given me a strong position.

[@TMTLNETG]

The strong position is to not give any statements until you have a lawyer present that can help facilitate your communication with authorities. Lawyers help balance the power imbalance.

[@twodogs9961]

Thanks again Massad for giving us information that could save our lives and our freedom.

[@oklahomahank2378]

Massad is right, IF you can shut up after giving the brief statement. Some people cannot. As Ron White said, “I had the right to remain silent, but I didn’t have the ability.”

[@bakedandsteaked]

Consequences of talking to the police: -a few days in jail maybe until your lawyer sorts things out -having to explain to your boss why you were absent from work for a few days Consequences of talking to the police: -you might still end up in jail for a few days until your lawyer sorts things out -anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law to send you to prison for much more than a few days I like my rights and I'm going to utilize them to their full extent regardless of how I'm perceived for that at the moment. If a cop says "he's using his 5th amendment right, lock him up boys", then so be it. You don't even have to be involved in a shooting for that to happen lmao

[@furyofbongos]

Very hard to disagree with you. I've read the book "Arrest-Proof Yourself" by a former cop. He says any arrest no matter how soon the charges get dropped is permanently searchable in the internet forever. I have a friend that got arrested on false charges, didn't do time, but he never was able to get a job for his entire life because of that record. He was forced to be self employed. My point here is that avoiding arrest may be something to think about. I'm on the fence now after listening to Marc Victor and now this video.

[@Kind_Candor]

​@furyofbongos obviously he had very poor legal advise and didny know how to do his own research because that should have been expunged.

[@jonathanclark3809]

Another beautifully written and spoken video. The world needs you.

[@TWH-k9i]

I had a self defense shooting. I remembered Mr Ayoob's advice. The man that I had to shoot passed away, I didn't go to jail. Just wanted to say thank you for the experience and advice on this channel.

[@jason200912]

How much did your legal fees cost

[@TWH-k9i]

@@jason200912 Nothing. There was no trial. I do carry FLP, and got a lawyer at no cost. But the police took my case to the District Attorney as a self defense shooting. The District Attorney reviewed the evidence and the case, and no charges were filed.

[@TWH-k9i]

Without getting into too much detail, I should state the man was caught on camera threatening me with a weapon, and advancing on me. So, it was fairly open and shut. I did not know about the camera evidence until after the district attorney declined charges.

[@musicman1eanda]

Wow thank you for sharing that pg. 122 point from Duane's book! I actually had the book right next my couch here and went there right away and he does say to give a short statement!

[@jdp1956]

So, in a nutshell, what would be the short statement ? Thank you in advance for your answer.

[@knndyskful]

I think an important distinction is that Masaad is saying to make a statement, he’s NOT saying “Answer Questions”! See the difference? He’s advocating for giving the police pertinent information and then shut up and DON’T Answer Questions! Which I think is the best option, once you make the statement as explained by Masaad, then explain before I answer any of your questions I’ll need to have an attorney, and do everything you can to resist Answering Questions

[@ratlips4363]

As always Massad, you are the Sage that we need to have access to. I have followed you over the years, starting when I purchased my first box of Black Talons. Thank you for continuing to provide us with rock solid information!

[@floydbraido2426]

I've noticed that criminal lawyers say never talked to the police but self-defense lawyers always say give a brief statement, no details.

[@roflchopter11]

Self defense lawyers certainly don't 'all' say that. And Mas isn't a lawyer, he's a cop. When the cops shoot someone, what do they do? Use their special safety period they have a special "right" to and talk to a lawyer.

[@morgan3688]

There are no self defense lawyers, only criminal defense lawyers. You, as the pesky citizen, have no idea if you commited a crime, even if what you did was 'right', it could still be criminal. Never represent yourself.

[@roflchopter11]

@@morgan3688 never did I say " represent yourself". The system just favors that in so many ways, not the least of which is denying self-represented defendants the ability to make statements that can't be used to impeach them like an attorney can.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I'd say too as a security officer/armed (G) & veteran- MP enlisted 4yr, try TRY to remain calm, don't use slang or profanities 🤬. LE officers arrive on scenes; DV cases, traffic accidents/deaths, beatings. They will shut down or become hostile if you are irate, crying-emotional or yell. I had a 2023 incident in CoDB.us which led to a suspect's felony arrest 📂. The 2 young PD officers on scene were highly unethical, un-caring. I'd add the police Lt, watch commander never came on scene.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

​@roflchopter11 Florida and the unions do grant a "cooling" off period. I'd add look at the FL vs Reeve case. The high profile 🍿 murder case. Reeve a older retired LE officer & security executive shot a attacker in a movie theater. That court case took 8 + years. Some critized patrol 🚓 officers for the slanted way they treated Reeve on scene.

[@beerdrinker6452]

Nice video. Thank you.

[@mr.c3928]

Thanks Mas!

[@txhuntsman]

As always a reasoned, well presented, and excellent presentation by Mr. Ayoob.

[@johnwilde164]

"Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law." And any tiny misstatement you accidentally make to the police can be twisted around to make you look guilty.

[@Mr_Snarky]

Miranda comes into play after you've been arrested.By then, you better remain silent. However, if you want to avoid arrest, the "brief statement" may work to your benefit.

[@TMTLNETG]

​@@Mr_Snarkyare you saying statements you make before you're arrested can't be used against you?

[@Mr_Snarky]

@@TMTLNETG Not at all. That's why it would be prudent to follow the advice that Mas is giving, and not say anything more than what's necessary to keep from being arrested.

[@XconMedia]

Thank you, sir for teaching common sense. I really enjoy your videos and appreciate everything you do for the community. I stopped watching the video to buy the book and then came back to finish the video. Thank you.

[@paulbyre8887]

Just wanted to say out of all gun related KZbin channels Massad gives the best advice in my opinion!

[@hart64ghs]

Thanks Mr. Ayoob, pretty much what my CC instructor said.

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

Criminal defense lawyer here, and I have experience with self-defense cases, and your argument has two flaws and a bad cost-benefit analysis. First, a lot of people aren’t going to remember what to include and not include in a brief statement if they are in this situation. Two, lay people may think a piece of info or a witness is exonerating, when in reality it isn’t, because law is nuanced (so what a “good shooting” is subject to interpretation and prosecutors are smart sometimes). Also, I’d be more than happy to spend up to 14 days in jail (in Idaho you get a prelim within 14 days of arraignment) to not risk life in prison. The one scenario I’d advise a brief statement on is if the incident isn’t recorded AND the alleged person is not deceased; because then it is a “race to the phone”.

[@musicman1eanda]

Thanks for your input. That's the way I've seen it as well. Massad's method seems good to increase the odds of avoiding immediate arrest and MAYBE avoiding charges. But, saying anything that can be used against you might literally make it harder for you later?

[@alexander1902]

@@musicman1eandaI'm also curious to know the facts of that home invasion shooting. Seems like there was MUCH more to it for the guy to spend two weeks in jail for something his attorney could've straightened out within a day.

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

@@alexander1902yea, that’s the other thing, it’s not like you have to wait until your preliminary hearing, which can take a couple weeks, to release a statement. You can do it the next morning (after meeting with your lawyer) at your arraignment and maybe get released on bail.

[@vyr01]

4:20 the stormtroopers are allowed to lie to you to get you to incriminate yourself - but if you make a mistake in your statement about a single thing you will be imprisoned for that

[@brianbaird1503]

not imprisoned, that means you are incarcerated in a correctional facitlity. You would be arrested and charged, and considered for bail.

[@tonyj7636]

Thanks, Mas. I subscribed to the law of self-defense and will watch Duane's offerings.

[@2greeksandacamera]

The BEST advice, period.

[@danielbridgewater3444]

Just remember...ANYTHING you say CAN & WILL be used AGAINST YOU. Also remember that you have the RIGHT to remain silent so that you don't accidently incriminate yourself. The 5th is there for your protection but if you decide to excercise that right you'll find out real fast how much the police dispise you & how they have absolutely zero respect for the law or your God given rights. Excercising your rights is something that absolutely infuriates the policie. If you don't believe me just try it the next time you get pulled over.

[@Trump145]

Thanks for that advice myself being a person who carries a concealed weapon. I will remember what you said a brief statement that is all.

[@johnwilde164]

Minnesota Lawyer regarding state law: "Is there a simple definition of legal self-defense? No. That is the most asked question. People wish for simplicity, understandably. But there is no bright-line test in the law, when it comes to self-defense." All the more reason to remain silent, so you don't accidentally say a wrong words.

[@Dontblamethemonkey]

Very well spoken and articulated.

[@Go4Corvette]

I agree. Thanks for the video.

[@gblargg]

10:33 Arrest versus conviction. The "don't talk" advocates I think do acknowledge that it increases your chance of being arrested, but reduces your chance of being convicted of something.

[@jamesdelong6401]

Great tips, for sure. Yes. Everyone is going to end up making their own decision on taking to the police.

[@jimlasswell4491]

I'm 71. I carry every day. In my community I'm known as a former Judo Sensei, having even taught off duty cops. I still look formidable. I know if I ever discharge my firearm anywhere but on the range two things will happen; I'll be without my weapon and in handcuffs. I see that as a fair trade to prevent my demise. Regardless of the change in Florida law comically referred to as 'stand your ground' I'll suffer the question; "was this necessary for you?' See I'm not the type that's a victim of bullies that get their rocks off intimidating others. Attacking someone of my size and background only happens with 'very' serious intent. In fact, that means the chances of me using my pistol are extremely small. Why then do I carry it; some would ask? Same reason I carry a fire extinguisher and a 1 ton jack in my saddle bags; some day I might need them.

[@oliverclosof596]

Don’t talk to the cops under any circumstances

[@rudyg528]

As usual thanks for your insight and expertise.

[@lauranolan1969]

This is very informative. I appreciate the idea of a brief statement.

[@djemcee]

I still believe you never talk to the police!

[@jrbleau]

I absolutely love this guy.

[@tims2735]

Drop mic. Very informative. Supported. And with healthy doses of expertise and common sense. Thank you Massad.

[@64samsky]

Good advice Mas!

[@drstrangelove4998]

I first heard of Massad many years ago, when he wrote articles for a great UK magazine called Handgunner. Great writing, eagerly awaited back then.

[@iver92975]

Thank you! You are my personal lawyer

[@mingrickard4537]

Thanks, very good advice, most appreciated. Regards

[@jeffcooper5789]

Worth listening to and to be taken seriously.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

More gun owners & ccw users do not look at the legal & deadly force aspects of carry. Serious ccw users, LE officers, PIs, security all know they need to prepare for the 2nd stage of a critical incident.

[@bob_mosavo]

Thanks, Massad 👍

[@archangel7673]

You can train several hours,and days a week on defending your house,your loved ones ,etc.Now you need to train on how to stay out of jail should the worst happen. I trust your advice as a man who has been involved with police interactions than the average guy,or gal! Thank you for sharing your wisdom,and look forward to the next one.

[@mattjewett4473]

My ex wife called the police after I'd driven a few blocks away. I pulled over when I saw the police coming the other way. They kept asking if I knew why she'd called them. After answering several times, to different officers, they should ask her, I finally asked them if they wanted me to speculate. They let me leave.

[@hayduke7801]

I was told by a California Highway Patrolman to only say it was self defense and I feared for my life. Made sense to me.

[@danduclos1975]

Very wise advice, thank you.

[@remnever2]

Yeah don’t use USCCA as an example of the right thing to do. The fact that you mentioned them has me questioning the entire video altogether.

[@markridley-vw9xh]

Always good content from Massad.

[@TieToter]

Great video, as usual. Thank you, sir!

[@Direwolf1166]

I think he would counter people make mistakes. If no one ever made mistakes then innocent people would never get arrested and good people would never make mistakes. I have great respect for you, but you can’t guarantee that you will never make a mistake. Yet you go armed.

[@iamtheoffenderofall]

The take away from that kid shooting and keeping quiet....He got a case dismissed. Now....was this case dismissed with or without prejudice? If the case was dismissed WITH prejudice....this kid WON big. Double jeopardy means even if they found out it was a drug deal gone bad....he can never be tried again for it. Thats worth a couple days in jail and WORTH the dismissal.