Gracie Jiu Jitsu & Kodokan's approach to self defense with Robert Drysdale

[@DominickODierno]

Judo is great for self defense, especially an assault situation, because you learn to stay on your feet in a chaotic situation, and to deal with people grabbing your clothes.

[@Chadi]

Indeed

[@kananisha]

People also forget that Judo is a complete art. There is standing, ground, joint manipulation, striking ect. And can very practical in the streets.

[@BFerreira82]

@@kakuto435 Oh Boy .... Let me get my popcorn 🍿 😁😎🤙🏼

[@kevinferreira6608]

@@BFerreira82 hahhaha hell will break loose!

[@kananisha]

@@kakuto435 that's sarcasm right ? 😆

[@bruceparker6142]

Don't forget wing chun.

[@kevinferreira6608]

@@kananisha these days we never really know for sure mate.

[@Billybongbaxter]

I'm a second degree black in Gracie jiu-jitsu.. And we have always trained in an overall skill setting.. we trained the self defence aspect in a very urban combatives environment.. multiple opponents with every possible scenario weapons guns etc... & especially surprise attacks.. (when your not expecting it) so we trained that your reaction would be instinctive.. That was the heart of it.. it's the difference between a straight up street fight.. and a surprise attack.. I've always said there are 3 distinct aspects of martial arts.. 1: the Art it self.. kata/forms etc. 2: The sportive aspect of it.. 3: The street application of the art The urban combat system.. The problem in my view is that because people practice sport they believe that the street arena is the same thing!! It’s a false sense of confidence.. when I’ve learned and teach the “self defence aspect of Gracie jiu-jitsu.. it includes, Head butts, ankle stamps, eye gouging, elbows etc.. plus the pre-fight aspect also.. I Love the art, but I understand & believe it’s essential that we teach it in its entirety.. Most of us who train are not Gordon Ryan or Roger Gracie.. we’re just normal folks that are not world class competitors… Hence why the self defence is a must & should be taught correctly too!!

[@lkxbrw1874]

Good to listen to Chadi and Drysdale. Most people can punch and kick to a greater or lesser degree. Just because you practice a 'martial art' doesn't mean you forget all else that comes naturally in a fight. I've been in a lot of confrontations as a cop and bouncer in the UK. The majority of the time I've ended up restraining whilst stood up (and tripping/off balancing, some throwing). I've practiced Judo for years and this is mainly all I've needed. Other things I've used with Judo is blocking from attacks and the odd front kick for distancing.

[@beskeptic]

Great content!! Thanks Chadi! The scenario Robert describes of one on one that bjj would be better suited is definitly not what Kano-shihan had in mind as a real fight (Shinken shōbu). Those one on one macho fights we had as kids here on schools were not any real danger of someone dying... there are rules like a sport...if someone got real hurt your friends would save you. But that kind of thing you could just avoid it. Shinken shōbu is never just two people fighting unless they are completely alone... no one would let people kill each other without intervening somehow. Thats the Ju (flexibility) to let things pass and not opose them if you dont have to... that is using ones energy eficiently and that is the MAJOR objective of judo... to learn how to use seiryoku zenyo on your every day life. And Kano-shihan never said that sportive judo is the way to go in a Shinken shōbu (real fight). Judo has punches and kicks in its canon because in a Shinken shōbu, the most effective way to deal might be using punches and kicks as well as throws and submissions.. and even running. Of course we dont train that in judo frequently and boxing would be an awesome thing to add to be a more well rounded fighter. The thing Kano taught was "seiryoku zenyo" or "use your energy in the most efficient way to yours and society benefit"

[@johnedwards4211]

I DON'T WANT YOUR LOGIC, I WANT BIAS! Nah BJJ is popular because a fight doesn't end because you throw them. BJJ works BETTER than Judo. John-Do-Te is Better than both.

[@Chadi]

Brilliant

[@jjs3890]

@@johnedwards4211 Judo throws are generally finishers on solid ground and if they don’t, me-waza is another part of their arsenal. Stand up AND ground. It pays to have a real sound stand up game especially when multiples get involved. BJJ you have only one gay and your completely screws if your opponent friends jump in. Even if your very experienced and advanced. I would pick judo for reality self defense over BJJ.

[@beskeptic]

@@nstv23 You right. Kano liked the name judo better then jujutsu be cause it describes better what he had in mind

[@daveyponderosa9549]

A great post Sir. It’s great to hear the wisdom of Prof D. I’ve always said that the best self defence art is track and field. 😉 I love Judo, it’s awesome! That said, boxing & or MT is totally necessary to become a well rounded martial artist.

[@RenegadeRanga]

Robert put forward on of the most logical and unbiased response to what works best on the street and took into account the factors. Self defence can be defined simply. Doing as much damage as necessary and as quickly as possible while minimising damage to yourself. Taking into account all the possibilities mentioned out on the street such as multiple opponents and weapons with no rules.

[@Midnitedreary88]

Mister Drysdale, Self Defense can be very well defined. Walk away if you can, HURT the person if you can't. I'd rather explain myself in a court of law than put my family in debt paying for my funeral.

[@fightefx]

Robert is very smart. Great interview.

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@qazmko22]

7:31 - 8:41 I 1000% agree with everything he said.. I am a fan of BJJ and practitioner, but with multiple attackers it's a really bad idea.

[@vwgolf1991]

It really depends on what you mean by self-defense, and in what context. BJJ, like other martial sports, is fundamentally a dueling art, meant to be used in a 1 on 1 scenario between two individuals. It is not a "generalist" self-defense art meant to handle worst case scenarios of weapons, group assault, kidnapping etc. In that 1 on 1 context, one that is actually the most common context for violent altercations, BJJ is excellent. Combined with boxing and wrestling, it's practically unstoppable. Very few people will ever be attacked by a group, ever have a weapon used against them, ever be subject to kidnapping and so on. But, a significant number of people will be assaulted or in a potential assault, but another single individual. Addressing the most common scenario and ignoring much less common scenarios makes sense if one is trying to develop genuine expertise.

[@marshall8425]

Robert looks like Magnus Carlsen with beard xdd

[@user-bn4ov9sp5s]

This book is awsome...

[@Chadi]

Agreed

[@Two-Die-Four]

Love your channel Chadi, and love all the Judo content.

[@Chadi]

🙇🏻‍♂️

[@OGG619]

Is this part of a longer interview?

[@scarred10]

great book by Drysdale,any sign of the film?

[@kristianOLS]

When are we gunna hear you on a podcast?

[@Chadi]

I did a podcast on 'the jits guy' in thr summer, available on KZbin

[@OGG619]

When will the film be released?

[@Chadi]

We're not sure

[@scarred10]

I always thougth the gracie stand up self defense to be nonsense since it was unresisted .Put on the gloves and do mma style but with common scenarios eg start from headlock,grab or haymaker.

[@johnedwards4211]

sniff much glue today

[@Chadi]

Drilling is fine, when you learn a new technique your partner lets you do it, lack of resistance afterwards os the issue

[@scarred10]

@@Chadi exactly, the stand up self defense is never done with resistance,that's the problem even in gradings ,its just a kata.

[@Billybongbaxter]

I’m a second degree black in Gracie jiu-jitsu.. And we have always trained in an overall skill setting… we trained the self defence aspect in a very urban combatives environment.. multiple opponents with every possible scenario weapons guns etc... & especially surprise attacks.. (when your not expecting it) so we trained that your reaction would be instinctive.. That was the heart of it.. it’s the difference between a straight up street fight.. and a surprise attack.. I’ve always said there are 3 distinct aspects of martial arts.. 1: the Art it self.. kata/forms etc. 2: The sportive aspect of it.. 3: The street application of the art The urban combat system.. The problem in my view is that because people practice sport they believe that the street arena is the same thing… trust me it’s very different…

[@henrikg1388]

Long message about the stupidity of thinking MMA is as close as it gets to a real life fight or a self-defence scenario, when it's just a set of rules that sometimes makes sense and sometimes not. Thank you KZbin for flushing a 5 minute text down the drain.

[@Chadi]

Mma needs gi

[@MrKahunadog]

I like how he wouldn't give a broad definition to self defense. Funny how he talks about Hawaii, I trained with him 20+yrs ago in Hawaii.

[@SoldierDrew]

Chadi, here's some Tshirt choke tactics applicable to Judo.

[@Chadi]

Any links

[@johnedwards4211]

I know Chadi can't grapple for 2 reasons. 1. he thinks judo is just like BJJ. 2. no cauliflower ear. 3. BUT I'M BUTT HURT AND NEED ATTENTION!

[@henrikg1388]

STFU! Cauliflower ears happen in Judo, but it is nowhere near as prevalent as in wrestling or BJJ. You think that would be obvious, but not for some. One of my best friends which I trained Judo with for years, got this internal bleeding in the ear that leads to cauliflower. He strictly trained with that type of hat used by rugby players and in water polo. It worked, and his ear looks just fine. He became a black belt and then national champion.

[@Chadi]

You got me

[@tommcalpine6062]

I've trained for over ten years and I don't have cauliflower ears but there's guys who get cauliflower ears after a few months 🤷‍♂️ it's just one of those things

[@henrikg1388]

@@tommcalpine6062 Which art? Wrestling, BJJ or Judo?

[@johnedwards4211]

@@tommcalpine6062 yeah i cant get it in karate either

[@mikegreen5502]

The best self defense is learning how to disarm knives and guns by experts the. Comes martial arts

[@dakotaroosa202]

But Helio invented leverage

[@johnedwards4211]

yes and I taught Kano in 1886 the real art of JJJ.

[@Chadi]

Kron's video is eternal:p

[@griffin2599]

Sarcasm! 🤣 The Gracies 🙄