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[@Pinely]

IT'S MISTER PINELY TIME: kzbin.info

[@goatmilk1]

no it ain't

[@asbestocess]

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[@ZK-ff2ru]

the time is 7:41 pm gmt youre lying

[@goatmilk1]

@KY5 [10th Main Account] no it ain't

[@asbestocess]

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[@alexia3336]

‘some people are saying the hospitals are packed, other people are saying they’re empty, i don’t know who to believe’ it’s almost like different areas will have different hospitalization rates. obviously a retirement community in like california is going to have higher rates than some rural town in wisconsin

[@tinminator8905]

Well I don't want to think about it though. That would make way too much sense and I don't want to change my view because I am smart and I am right.

[@gracekim25]

@@tinminator8905 closed minded more like Unless that’s a ‘joke’?

[@gracekim25]

@@tinminator8905 WOOW how profound (!)

[@screamchh4635]

me wisconsin

[@leonardo.diCATio]

@@gracekim25 it's very obviously sarcasm, you don't need to assume the worst in everyone

[@SPOOPINATURAL]

“I thought you were kek, now I realize you’re just cringe.” -Julius Caesar when GradeAUnderA stabbed him

[@Halokon]

Kek tu, BrutGradeA.

[@themyofmy]

@@Halokon comments that kill you with immense radioactive energy

[@chefboyardee5915]

Welcome back to Kek or cringe with SPOOPINATURAL

[@educprof2160]

GradeA was always cringe, he is just a fragile white guy who based his entire personality on hating stuff on the internet

[@Halokon]

@@educprof2160 I’ve never liked the guy, but he’s not white, pretty sure he’s British Pakistani (maybe British Indian, if so, apologies for confusing the two, not a fun history between those two cultures and countries!).

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

"He is going to talk about the vaccines." I audibly said: _Oh No_

[@SgtDucky]

Like you Grade is one of the people who inspired me become a creator, He used never fail at getting a chuckle from me. But as time went on I felt like his videos were becoming more thoughtless and bland. Eventually I realized once the novelty of the over the top angry voice was removed there was very little in the way of substance or even comedy left to chew on. Which is a shame because he's been more than capable of making bangers in the past.

[@Pinely]

I love you ducky

[@Ilikebugs2464]

Duck

[@SPOOPINATURAL]

hello cartoon duck man

[@ElBrandoTV]

This 100%. I remember when the Matthew Santoro, Nicole arbor drama was going on. I remember Grade made it a huge talking point that Nicole had a video on a hard-core porn site, and that was supposed to discredit her for some reason. But then you'd go to watch this hard-core porno, and you find out it's just a topless scene of her in a park from a movie that was re-uploaded onto the site

[@lilmochalovefox480]

This is very well said! Nice to see you pop up, since apparently YT doesn't think your subscribers want to be notified of new content. After watching this video I am even less happy that somehow he has been able to get a good following with my 15 yr old brother and all of his friends around that age.

[@isuck200]

I think get goes to show that his audience has grown up while he has not. I used to watched him around 2016 and its kinda embarrassing bc I don't think he ever knew what he was talking about.

[@RubeyJG]

The way he thinks is good for simple topics like "language, school things" simple stuff dat doesnt mean a lot but when he goes into actual real topics, he's just not qualified.

[@microwavedsarcasm]

exactly. this is embarassing*

[@Remember_Bubblebutt]

I think he did then and doesn't now.

[@mattinacave1947]

I got that impression when I first watch his "animal names are stupid" video.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

Well based upon the like to dislike ratio, the majority still have not.

[@kashiomi_art]

Woah his video is strawman argument personified. It's funny how he says "it's not my opinion it's statistics" completely omitting that he states his opinions on what those numbers mean (and ignores a bunch of other numbers, like the 2% of deaths doesn't include a huge amount of people who survive and live with consequences, his stance on vaccine doesn't mention that 95% of people who are in hospitals rn are unvaxxed). Doesn't sound like he destroyed anyone with facts and logic to me, only an old man shouting outdated statistics to the sky.

[@R_trigger1344]

Those deaths arent including alive people because ALIVE PEOPLE

[@kashiomi_art]

@@R_trigger1344 yeah i mean the same thing pinely and many commenters under the og video said. A lot of ppl citing the 2% number as an argument why covid isn't that bad ignore other devastating effects of the disease both on human body and on a healthcare system.

[@aaronjustice9020]

@@kashiomi_art I don't care to watch his video. But it was overhyped. The death rate was never 2%. The vaccine is low efficacy trash

[@BalooDumptruck]

False Aaron

[@tinminator8905]

@@aaronjustice9020 I thought the peer reviewed statistics was the one thing everyone could agree with. Sad that there are people who can't even believe what is the most obvious truth.

[@rblouise6120]

My grandpa died from COVID-19 before the vaccine was available. He was somewhat old but obviously he still mattered and was completely healthy beforehand. No lung issues ever. The fact that people don't take this seriously is so maddening. Also, he was in a nursing home that was shut off to visitors. A worker who wasn't careful brought it in. He should've been safe. He wasn't.

[@beththedarkmage3359]

I lost someone before the vaccine too. She had respiratory issues (COPD, mostly) but would have easily lived at least 5 years more, probably closer to 10 (she was 72). Happy, mostly healthy years, too. A medical condition doesn't mean you would die at the same time anyway, and it doesn't mean you don't deserve a shot at life, it makes me so angry when others discount their lives and how much they mean to us with "well they were old and ill anyway". She made everyone around her smile, and made friends wherever she went. The world was robbed of an amazing grandmother, mother, aunt, friend and human being. She lived with us and caught it in Hospital, she should have been safe too but they moved her to another ward and she caught it due to their incompetence. There was even an incident where a clearly mentally ill person, not a patient, got in and was shouting at her- it was hours before she was removed. Visitors weren't allowed, at all- this never should have happened. It's possible she caught it from her. I just...I'm so angry they didn't even have basic security and she was tormented like this. The miscommunication to us, as well- we were told "we have a duty of care" so assumed it was a patient! We asked what about the duty of care to our family member? They didn't respond. It was actually the security guard's girlfriend- at least, according to her. Could have been a stereotypical crazy ex.

[@lani6700]

Saying "it's not that deadly" just proves to me the person has never been seriously ill or had a chronic illness. No one should suffer through this disease even if they are guaranteed to survive. Furthermore, I'm chronically ill and it becomes the new axis to which you have to center your life. A lot of people are experiencing that now and it's a tragedy I wouldn't wish on anyone

[@udrearadu-cristian9874]

Man I fell you i had a severe case of covid and even do i was 100% gonna get better it still was very bad, i agree no one should go thought disease

[@keishag.8140]

For real. 6 years ago I was hospitalized for pneumonia, had to be transfered via ambulance to another hospital because the previous hospitals ventilator couldn't give me enough oxygen (very fucking luckily not intubated, but I was very close to needing it). My lungs are not the same but what breaks my heart is that my OWN PARENTS (who were by my side, and were told I could have died) are against the vaccine. My mom cried, begging me not to get the vaccine cause I'll be damned to hell. They know I could die but they'd rather have a chance of seeing me in the afterlife than in this life. Breaks my heart and I'm preparing myself to lose my parents to Covid (Edit: they're in their 60s). I'm fully vaccinated because I don't want to suffer more than I did. I don't want to end up on a ventilator again.

[@MrLoowiz]

But it literally IS NOT AS DEADLY as some medias imply. Or what, I can say that humanity is at the risk of extinction, and if someone calls me out for overhyping the virus, they should be attacked for undermining the gravity of the virus? Think for a second, get the point of the video and get off that hate train.

[@adangamez3608]

@@MrLoowiz The word deadly us subjective to many people. I’d honestly just keep the word to yourself instead of spreading it to others who have less chances of surviving. We still don’t know the long term affects of covid, so we really don’t know if its a long term symptom virus. Covid is a modification of many flu and other covid strains together. We so far know that even with mild cases, you have a chance of permanent lung damage; and asthma. So yeah, even if you survive it, you are most likely going to be left off with lung problems

[@NymphieJP]

Be safe! :)

[@the_homun_system]

honestly i feel like forgetting he exists entirely a few years ago made my life better... he was never a big critical thinker actually. just kinda... loud=right honestly....

[@roxassora2706]

He was like those girls who think clapping in an argument makes you right.

[@trybetrybe5725]

This is the best way to describe it because it's the same thing I feel.

[@tomv2063]

Well that’s why people found him interesting i the first place including me, this loud, bold and brash personality. I liked his vids but when he tries to talk about topics that he’s not qualified to, it becomes cringe.

[@ghoulishtoad]

@@tomv2063 Yeah it wouldve been different i think if he said this stuff but was like its mu OPINION and i dont know if im right cause im not a professional im just fucking gradeA but this is what i personally think vs acting like he knows whaf hes talking about... MOST of us dont with this virus which is why we listen to people WHO WORK WITH IT EVERYDAY

[@elizabethsmith7224]

The only video I ever saw of his was the sjw cringe one, and...that was enough for me to say...yeah no.

[@SD-oi9gr]

2% is a pretty scary number really. 2 out of every 100. I wouldn’t bet my life on those numbers that’s for sure. Not to mention I’m in the extreme risk category so the 2% would be lucky in my case.

[@omachao6856]

I forgot how statistics worked, GAH

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

it's okay if you get the vaccine you will be safe and protected!

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Exactly 1 in 50 people is nothing to sneeze at (pun noted, but unintended)

[@FrenkTheJoy]

My graduating class in high school had about 200 kids in it, and it's really weird to think that basically 4 of them would be dead from this (at least one IS dead but that's not related). Imagine going to math class and there's 4 empty seats for the rest of the year. It's really unsettling if you have the actual numbers of covid rates and then covid deaths and look up the countries by population (and states, and cities) and realize that basically the entire population of Ireland or Alabama died just from covid. It's distressing also because last time I looked up the numbers to make that comparison, it was Liberia and Louisiana instead.

[@beththedarkmage3359]

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I really hope that isn't sarcastic, and if it isn't, yes, you will be protected, but it doesn't stop you from catching it, nor dying of it, but it does greatly reduce the odds as your body is already used to fighting a deactivated or dead version of it and therefore has the tools. Like being sent into a fight with a gun instead of nothing. If it is sarcastic, I seriously hope you aren't stupid enough to be anti-vax. The vaccine is saving lives and I seriously wish it was out a month earlier because it would have saved my family member who passed away from it and COPD (which only worsened because of the virus, she was fairly ok, due to live 10 years longer naturally, before it hit and she was bed ridden, dying, within hours.)

[@AiraRia]

as a chronically ill person i just LOVE the "underlying health condition" argument. feels good to know that people see me and people like me as that meaningless

[@StiikxFigure]

"feels good to know that people see me and people like me as that meaningless" Can you read? No one ever said that lmao.

[@toxin1662]

Sure no one said that outright, but by people excluding people like her from their final tally of deaths i can see how she was hurt. It kind of seems strange for some people (not grade explicitly) to dismiss deaths of people with underlying health conditions as deaths only due to that condition, when you know, if it weren't for the virus they would have probably lived longer.

[@ps1hagrid786]

@@StiikxFigure Nobody needs to outright say it for it's already been implied. That's what's meant by the 2% argument. The most susceptible are viewed as collateral.

[@1Rez_EZ1]

I believe he's trying to say that people who are not in the groups that had the highest risks should stop worrying as much as they were.

[@polarisscale7030]

@@StiikxFigure have you ever heard of the word implication

[@John-kd2tc]

I like how everything that was caused by COVID was just ignored. Stuff like not being able to get admitted at the hospitals, losing your jobs, etc. The job thing has been especially hard here.

[@aaronjustice9020]

That didn't really happen in the US. All of the scarcity was engineered because doctors cancelled electives and other non emergency things because of lockdown rules. It wasn't because hospitals were filled. That was never actually the case. Even during the absolute peak in the worst hit cities they didn't use the covid hospitals, over flow tents or the navy hospitals sent.

[@John-kd2tc]

@@aaronjustice9020 That's very strange. The hospital thing was definitely a major issue here. My grandmother who needed to get her legs operated on had to wait close to a month for the hospital to clear up.

[@bee2514]

yep. my dad sold our house to fund his business which eventually shut down because of covid. we lost over £100k

[@thefool3130]

@@aaronjustice9020 to be fair, a part of why NYC (for example) didn't use its overflow hospital is because instead they had to use overflow tents in Central Park for all the bodies of the dead because morgues were so full, lmao.

[@nilli99]

@@aaronjustice9020 stop peddling your bullshit. none of it was artificial, covid DID indeed fill hospitals

[@WaffleBat]

I've been trying to convince my mom to get vaccinated and this is basically her argument too. 2% of the human population needlessly dying is fine with her, even if it includes her, so it's incredibly difficult to convince her to minorly inconvenience herself to get vaccinated.

[@penguinthepurple]

2% of a big number is still a big number. A lot of people don't get that for some reason.

[@WaffleBat]

@@penguinthepurple Right? 156 million people is a lot of preventable deaths to not care about. It's amazing how many people there are who couldn't be bothered to even pee on you if you were on fire much less try to prevent the fire to begin with.

[@Oyasumi05]

It doesn't make sense logically, imagine you have two doors, walking through the first door may mildly inconvenience you, but it will make walking through the second one much easier and safer. Now take the second door, walking through this one without having gone through the first one beforehand has a much greater chance of death, injury, and even permanent injury.

[@gracekim25]

@@penguinthepurple yeah 😅

[@lukesucksballs1069]

Jesus this is my dads exact argument too

[@ionia2376]

One of my mum's mates is a senior nurse who runs an ICU (in the UK). The ICU beds here are filled with the unvaccinated. Most of these beds are supposed to be used for cancer patients recuperating after having tumors removed. If the ICU bed is filled, these operations are postponed. And many of the cancer patients find that the tumor is inoperable by the time they can get rescheduled. Those like Grade A are killing people.

[@stuxinator8187]

What makes it even worse is the fact that getting vaccinated isn't even a big deal, especially if you're low risk. Sure, you'll feel a bit rough the next day, but that's it. One day of staying in bed is too high a price for selfish arseholes like Grade to pay to make the world a better place.

[@kenmken]

@@stuxinator8187 I'm sick of how many young people say "I'm young and healthy why would I take the vaccine?", when that is nothing but a cop-out to what they actually think of it: they at the very least don't trust that there isn't some insidious purpose behind it. Because even if you had a low risk of dying from covid, a vaccine would still be a no brainer because it will help you avoid hospitalization, long term health effects, and the 1/40,000 healthy young people deaths grade blabbered about. That's beyond the fact that it helps curb the spread and mutation of COVID. The real reason is they're cynical paranoid fucks who self-identify as free thinkers out of insecurity

[@killer257]

@@kenmken even tough you can still get the virus. I swear vaxxers are just fucking stupid

[@tinminator8905]

@@killer257 This might be the funniest comment I have ever read. I would be very curious about what you think about the world and politics. I am sure you would make for the best unironic comedian ever.

[@killer257]

@@tinminator8905 ahh politics huh? Which side you want me to talk about.

[@coznix]

I used to absolutely love Grade, but ever since I saw that his video was going to premiere, I knew he was going to misstep. This is definitely a step too far for Grade, considering even his most controversial videos. I was too focused on the fact that his entire argument was a straw man to see that in fact he entirely missed Covid’s greater impact. Great video, Pinely! I just gained a lot of respect for you.

[@penguinthepurple]

I used to like him as well, but I knew how the video was going to go as soon as I saw the title. Then I thought, maybe it wouldn't go that way. And I was proven wrong.

[@tinminator8905]

I just don't get what the point of it is. What is his qualification to judge such complicated health issue?

[@gracekim25]

@@tinminator8905 yeah pretty confusing

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

I'm glad you learned not to listen to right wing liars and misinformation peddlers like Grade. Because if you were still into that sort of thing, someone would have to do something about that. The revolution is at hand, which side are you on again...? you seem kinda sus

[@user-tv3mc5tr9b]

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I am technically on your side but your comment is kinda Weird. Like what revolution?

[@re_i_gn]

This guy was my hero as a typical SJW-hating 15 year old back then. I was also an Onision fan for a short while that time. Damn I was pathetic.

[@I_love_dr_stone]

oh no same

[@dirtbby]

Wasn't ur fault, have u heard about the like pewdiepie to alt right pipeline lol it's p fucked how the algorithms fuck with people

[@ddjsoyenby]

i used to be a blaire white and roaming millenial stan......we all made mistakes.

[@fudgen.a1249]

You weren’t pathetic, you where just young and maybe a little naive (and maybe even unknowing). We all where.

[@alexia3336]

the most important thing is growth, don’t be too hard on yourself

[@joearnold6881]

I had covid a year ago. I got it from a man I’d just started working with, whose wife died of it shortly after. I was bedridden for two weeks, and out of work for two months. I’m still not fully recovered. I had no idea that persistent, crushing fatigue was a thing that just went on and on and on I mean, it’s disgusting how callous these people are about millions of deaths, but this disease isn’t just bad if it kills you.

[@roxassora2706]

Even mild cases suck more than the flu

[@tbwentmia]

I just recovered from mild covid and it was terrible I had exams to revise for and it made it so much harder

[@gmc5618]

My best friend is now an orphan as his mam died from long covid complications . It's so shit x I hope you get better soon comrade

[@joearnold6881]

@@gmc5618 thank you, comrade. My sympathies

[@alexthebudgie9071]

@Joe Arnold , first of all: cool af pfp. second of all, i have CFS- crushing fatigue rules my life and i wouldn’t wish it on anyone. my healthy 22 year old friend had covid and it absolutely wiped him out. they are still struggling with it months later. my younger sibling so currently battling covid. they are 14 and it’s absolutely sickening. really struggling.

[@MajiggerRose]

His attitude that "it's only old people who die" really disgusts me. It's not like they just die peacefully in their beds. It's painful, brutal, and many hospitals won't even let your loved one be at your side when you die there. That's exactly how my great aunt died--with her husband forced to stay on the other side of the room. She was 91, but still very healthy otherwise. She deserved so, so much better. We think she got it from when she had to go to the hospital for a fractured leg a few weeks prior. I don't know anyone who hasn't lost someone to this disease. Making a video like this right now isn't being edgy, it's heartless. I didn't even bother to watch the livestream because already the video was complete BS. It wasn't straight up misinformation but misrepresentation. I was still able to forgive him, holding on to the faint hope that maybe he was just careless, but apparently he's not only a moron, but a heartless moron. Thank God it wasn't in the main video. Still, the stream is troubling. The fact that he's more or less encouraging his (mostly young) fanbase not to get vaccinated is legitimately dangerous. The fact that he emphasizes "under 18" is very disturbing. Anti-vax rhetoric, especially directed towards minors, is where I draw the line.

[@suezuccati304]

I think it's a running issue with these "Anti-SJW" types that anything that doesn't affects them is dismissed with no second thought. It's almost like all their beliefs are based on pure egoism.

[@DriscolDevil]

@@suezuccati304 egoism and a belief that those not able to survive don't deserve to. Man, if only there was an ideaology that pops up throughout history that aligns with this belief system. But don't think about it, the alt right pipeline is just a myth and whatnot....

[@suezuccati304]

@@DriscolDevil there are quite the number of ideologies that gives people in need the middle finger, actually lol

[@DriscolDevil]

@@suezuccati304 There is a very specific ideaology that pushes the idea that "the weak" are a burden on society and should be left to die (or be killed), and that "the strong" should dominate. It got really popular in the 1940's.

[@emmak9670]

another thing is long covid. i got covid when i was 17 in march 2020, and two years later i am still suffering with debilitating symptoms. i was bed bound for ~8 months and have had to go to physical therapy so i can attempt to function. i’ve also seen kids my age and younger that were athletes and overall extremely healthy becoming wheelchair bound, being intubated, and dying. it’s so frustrating when people like him say that it’s only old or immunocompromised people that have really severe reactions to covid. even if that was the case, isn’t the fact that it can hurt people reason enough to care?

[@mushmush4980]

Ironically his satirical, village-idiot voice in this case really makes him look like he's unintentionally mocking himself

[@penguinthepurple]

The whole point of lockdowns was that it's not an equal risk to everyone, but it's a massive one to a lot of people. I also found it hard to make sense of the point of the video, and I think it's because concepts like that - ones that most of us understand - are lost on him. He just doesn't get it.

[@JohnGalt916]

So lock down those at risk (old, sick, and fat) and leave everyone else alone🤦🏿‍♂️. You know like the Scandinavian countries did who has the lowest numbers in the whole western world. Yall act like people didn't die until 2020.

[@dixienormus769]

@@JohnGalt916 You are aware that the virus can negatively affect anyone, right? Outside death, perfectly healthy individuals are also at risk of chronic illness or organ damage, including asthma, punctured lung, gastrointestinal issues, blindness, respiratory issues, etc. Or do you genuinely think everyone who isn't old, disabled, or sick are immune?

[@tinminator8905]

@@JohnGalt916 I mean sweden had pretty much the worst covid numbers in europe for like 3 months. The general populous considers the strategy a failure in it's entirety.

[@gracekim25]

@@JohnGalt916 it affects EVERYONE 🤦‍♀️ that is a terrible suggestion

[@gracekim25]

@@JohnGalt916 for god sake!!! You hypocrite!

[@sourgreendolly7685]

lmfaooo I love that he says he’d rather trust his immune system as if vaccines don’t teach your immune system how to better fight conditions also friendly reminder that 2% is 1 in 50 people. just wanna put that into perspective.

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

1 in 50 *cough _elderly,_ _obese,_ _compromised_ persons

[@GimJim]

Lmao, if it teaches the immune system, why do you need a booster?

[@cath3122]

@@xtdycxtfuv9353 and those people have a right to life as much as everyone else

[@starchilde8698]

@@GimJim The same reason you needed summer school :P

[@renaissancewoman3770]

@@starchilde8698 🙏

[@nickisnotgreen]

i had never seen his channel until his covid video and i could not believe he was ever popular

[@theirishpotato6588]

Hi nick.

[@theirishpotato6588]

Probably because his funny voice

[@susan9100]

It's because he's bri-ish and has a silly goofy voice

[@llewelynshingler2173]

It seems that back in his heyday, he was less wildly inept.

[@YeTism]

@@susan9100 ok yank

[@spencersshenanigans]

I was kind of surprised by Grade's take. Like it was really bad. I was there during the stream, and he said 'woke' so many times; it was a mixture of cringe (that one of my favorite KZbinrs has the same vocab as a boomer on Fox) and disappointment (where he has always talked from a point of empathy, to now this video is just gone). I lowkey thought he was a chill guy, but then he just started sounding like the same people from 2016.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

Honestly, I think alot of people assumed he was playing a character for his older comedy videos, but it’s become increasingly obvious that he just IS actually that character.

[@zerog1037]

You would think wokists were woke enough to realise covid was overhyped

[@zetafish7347]

Man Grade has just been getting worse and worse over the years. I often question why I used to like him. Also regarding the 2% covid death toll, 2% is still a lot of people. 2% is still several million people but this guy just doesn't care about them I guess.

[@MrHendrix17]

The 2% thing baffles me because so many of the people that spread covid misinformation will also happily spread blatant transphobia despite the fact trans people make up a miniscule percentage of humans. Weird how they pick and choose when small numbers are worth devoting their time.

[@LiftYagami]

2% of people worldwide is not worth literally segregating and closing down entire towns (Australia) and considering not helping people because of their vax status and leaving them to die. You’ll notice that the biggest people who push lockdowns and vaccines are involved in corporations and government abd that’s because they have to gain from it.

[@soulsborne7765]

@@LiftYagami 2% of the worlds population is 156 000 000 milion people thats more people than live in Russia.

[@somedude172]

as someone who is 21 years old and chronically ill, i love how he just blows off the deaths of people like me. also, the 2% is mostly a big deal because this is such a highly contagious disease (which is what Hwl., the commenter above me, also fails to realize). if it wasnt as contagious, i would think that argument might stand a chance. but the truth is, this is one of the most highly infectious diseases we've ever seen, and the US is full of people with underlying health conditions. if 2% of the US dies, thats kind of a big deal. especially when you consider that the more people get infected, the more overrun our hospitals are- which leads to that % increasing. more than 2% will die if they cant get a hospital bed. and we also have to consider that medical professionals are also having a small exodus over the vaccine and other issues. there are just so many details he is omitting.

[@Oyasumi05]

@@LiftYagami what can anyone ever gain from lockdowns? Literally nothing, it's a detriment to people and the economy, which is why it's a last resort. There is literally nothing to be gained. Also why should people who refuse to get vaccinated and get sick because get the equal treatment as someone who couldn't help their sickness? Did you know if you leave the hospital early against medical advice, and get injured because of it, your insurance wont pay for it, because you were being a dumbass. Same concept.

[@emma-kr2eg]

2% in his figure of around 37,000 is relatively small but when compared to the population of the world the figure significantly increases. Also I think a part of COVID is the lasting effects, mental health being worse from being trapped away from reality for so long, worrying about older members of your family and how if they even went outside they have a chance of losing their life, financial issues from not being able to work.. grade overlooks so much and focuses on death.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I looked it up, and granted this was a couple weeks ago, but the global death rate of covid, whatever percentage it is, the number of dead people is larger than the population of *some countries*. And it doesn't include people who didn't die of covid but died of some infection that got aggravated by covid, stuff like that. Like, yeah, 2% of a dollar isn't that much, but 2% of millions or billions of dollars is a lot.

[@jolokp]

You'd think that Grade understands the mental aspect of it as he suffered from it for a long time, sad to see that he doesn't seem to care

[@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936]

The mental health issues were from the lockdowns, which were ineffective and caused by panic.

[@gabsnandes7818]

Makes me mad, honestly, im from Brazil, over 600 thousand people died, 600 thousand families that lost a loved one, one of those were mine, the loss was bad, and trying to understand this same effect over 600 thousand times is depressing, i can't even comprehend how large this number is, it's like the town i live, gone, three times, there are countries with less people than the amount of people that died here, and acting like, oh, it's only 2%, percentages don't tell the whole story

[@shockwavesteve]

Buddy that’s 140 million… and don’t you humanizers bother about calling me ignorant when you yourself don’t realize that you’re somebody else’s pawn anyways because the truth is, is that nobody deserves any shot at life, and, in fact, the concept of human rights is only about 300 years old.

[@StrawberryMatchaTea]

It’s just so painful hearing GradeAUnderA* talk about covid and the hospitals being empty, when our family had like 2 losses because of the disease, and my dad has to work overtime in the hospital

[@Halokon]

Sorry for you loss, can’t imagine how horrible it must feel to have lost people and then have people saying “but I don’t think it’s really a problem”, or worse “it’s fake lol”. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise I suppose, people in hospital, clinging to life because of the virus, have still been denying it’s existence, which is gobsmacking…

[@BiggerR10]

But that's YOUR family, the majority of people are not in danger of dying from it, or recieving permanent effects from it. I and a few of friends had it, and we were just sick for a couple of days. Like most people.

[@kennidie]

@@BiggerR10 covid can effect anyone... and like you said that's just YOUR experience. ppl come out with serious effects like loss of taste or lung/organ damage. just bc you wont die from it don't mean its not detrimental

[@JG_Wentworth]

@@BiggerR10 Yeah, the majority of people aren't in danger of dying from it, that doesn't make them fucking impervious. Covid can have long term side effects that can last for a currently indeterminate amount of time. But "Baah, baaah" some more why don't you. Literal sheep, I swear to god...

[@TalonMerlin777]

He probably has to work overtime because the doctors aside form your dad sre being fired for not submititng to the government in their Vax mandates.

[@jordashi]

As always pinely is blessing us with his wise knowledge and perfect humor.

[@ZenerRocksMC]

The thing that pisses me off about the “2%” mortality rate is that; that’s the mortality rate for the first infection. Unlike with the Flu where you might catch it once every 4-6months you can catch COVID-19 once everyone month and a half- that is a month or less than for your lungs to heal from the last infection as opposed to 4 months at least for the Flu. The damage COVID-19 does to your lungs as well can be quite incredulous, if the virus spreads through to too many parts of your lungs you may as well have been smoking. Hence the mortality rate rises depending on the amount of times you obtain the infection.

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

Yeah but the vaccine prevents the virus so if you get the vaccine you will be fine DUH

[@sinistersam]

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 No it doesn’t. It just reduces your risk of infection and how bad the symptoms will effect you.

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@sinistersam No the vaccine prevents transmission of the virus and boosts your immunity.

[@mollymadarasz1748]

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 i’ve had the vaccine and i’ve currently got covid, it doesn’t prevent it just reduces the extent

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@mollymadarasz1748 dang you'd probably be dead if you didn't get the injection. It's good to hear your common sense choice to get vaccinated saved your very life! These are the stories the far right needs to hear.

[@alkamstardust]

Did anybody made the "some of you might die but that's a sacrifice I am willing to make" joke yet?

[@WhoamI-yz9nx]

"Where's the empathy?" I've been asking myself that question for the last two years. I did not realize just how many people didn't give a single shit about others.

[@mrpw1402]

I liked him in 2016 but ever since he’s been dabbling with keemstar I lost faith in him

[@arnahunas4048]

Dude shouldn't have gotten into drama.

[@MrRyangrrr]

Dude tried weaponising his audience against Keemstar not long after whinging about mob mentality, iirc

[@amberbaum4079]

"Hey, it's me GradeA! Let's make KZbin great again!!!! Let's stop talk about drama, while I create dumb-shit drama!" That's basically when I completely lost interest in his channel. And the fact that his persona isn't a persona.

[@HotMess320]

That video basically said fat, old people are okay to kill off. I’ve supported him from the beginning of his channel and I’m genuinely disgusted with him.

[@StiikxFigure]

"That video basically said fat, old people are okay to kill off." Okay, how the hell are you guys going to complain about the original video "strawmanning" people, but then do a strawman here.

[@tinminator8905]

@@StiikxFigure You may have a semblance of a point here but when you say: ONLY people with health issues and old people are at a high risk, then that implies that their life is worth less. If he didn't mean it like that his choice of words was pretty poor.

[@StiikxFigure]

@@tinminator8905 No one is saying "anyone's life is worth less when you're at high risk of something", you're making up an imaginary implication that NO ONE is even making unironically.

[@tinminator8905]

@@StiikxFigure The ONLY is the problem. If I told you: "Oh thank god it's only you that's at risk. For a moment I though I could get harmed." That implies that you are worth more than the other person and makes you look like a dick. Hope that gets the point across. If you don't understand that I can't get explain human communication any better.

[@gracekim25]

@@tinminator8905 yeah….worded like that it’s awful 😨

[@rampion1228]

I actually saw these points made a lot during the early days of covid mostly under the guise of "calming people down" which was very wierd for me as someone with a compromised immune system. Idk how to react to a FB post from an old high school friend reassuring me that only me, a few of my friends, and my grandma will die.

[@gmc5618]

My brother is immunocompromised and the amount of peers who were saying it was only people like him who'd die was shocking. He (and yourself) are luckily still with us but covid really exposed how ableist and selfish some truly are. Not very comforting when our PM basically condemned him and the elderly to death with his herd immunity plans.

[@mykaruest3620]

@@gmc5618 It's about convenience, if something I want is pushed aside or postponed then gosh darn it the world has to pay and lives sacrificed!

[@arthurfine4284]

People are afraid of dying and I think people saying that COVID will affect old people and people with underlying health problems were a way to convince themselves that the virus won't get them. However, it takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock old people and people with underlying health problems, and I hope your friends learns really quickly that throwing rocks at windows will inevitable cause him to cut himself on glass.

[@rampion1228]

@@arthurfine4284 I'm sorry I wasn't clear in my initial comment, my friend didn't outright say specifically to me or anyone else that we are the only people who will die. I was trying to make the point that seeing people try to calm everyone down by say only immune compromised and the elderly will die functions the same way to people in those groups. I understand that it comes from a desire to feel safer but they arent just saying this to themselves in the mirror, they are publically using this to back up their claims that the pandemic isn't that serious and people shouldn't stress about following guidelines.

[@emilyau8023]

I'm more shocked that people who watch his content know how he speaks and rationalizes things in his head and can't believe he's stupid. Come on there were signs. All the times you thought he was kidding are his actual ways of reasoning. He's got the brain of a spec and there's no point talking to people like him unless you want to look like a fool arguing with a fool.

[@fransbeckman5007]

DarkViperAU recently did a good (altough somewhat ranty) video on this topic. In a nutshell, GradeA is assuming that the reality we live in with the precautions in place would've been the same as the reality where we had done nothing. A simple (altough somewhat exaggerated) example is this: Current science says that a giant world-ending asteroid/meteor is in collision course with earth. People, naturally, freak out and spends trillions building rockets to either redirect it's course or blow it up. Hooray! We succeeded! However, one dude (GradeA) stands out of the crowd and claims this was all pointless, using the fact that we are alive as an argument. Not taking into account that the reason the meteor didn't hit us was because of those rockets and trillions Altough, a more reasonable perspective would come from a group of scientists from a space agency (i.e NASA) who are using more accurate data since we got so close to said meteor. They claim that according to their data and simulations, the meteor would've completly missed. In this case, top-class scientists are using data and simulations as their argument that we wasted money. Aight, that's it. Typed om phone, English not my number one.

[@gracekim25]

You did a good job 👍

[@MiorAkif]

That's the bit that really irks me. It's so easy to claim covid is nothing much after forgetting ALL OF THE EFFORT that has been made over the past 2 years to contain the disease.

[@Pihsrosnec]

@@MiorAkif "only tens of millions of people died, so why'd we put so much effort into saving everyone else?"

[@katie-8452]

my mom is a nurse in a hospital, and thankfully enough she wasn't in a unit that was overall very effected by COVID. just the other day though, she was talking to a nurse in the ICU who told her in the entire time she's been in the ICU and COVID has been a problem, she has never had a patient survive. of course, you're in real bad shape by the time that you get to the ICU with any problems, but it was so jarring to hear the amount of death and suffering that the nurse had probably seen. when i saw gradea's video just a few days after i had heard that story, it just made me sad. he's misinforming so many young people and essentially telling them that EMPATHY cannot co-exist with FACT. it's possible to look at this numbers and say yes, it doesn't kill a lot of people my age. i have a good likelihood of coming out of this alright. but he's telling them that you shouldn't care about other people because they're old, they're vulnerable, they're overweight, etc. it's frustrating.

[@JoseJose-sh7fr]

Covid is less than 1% fatality rate for most people, if every single one has entered their care has died, something is fucking fishy.

[@katie-8452]

@@JoseJose-sh7fr no, i mistyped. she hasnt had a patient survive during this WAVE. idk what that time period is but i think its closer to a couple months

[@osml]

Right. My roommate met up with her friend yesterday and she didn't tell my roomate that her boyfriend broke his quarantine and they met up after being tested for COVID (not sure of he was positive). My roommate has two elderly parents, I cannot even imagine how people just don't consider others' well-being.

[@Guzuma]

wait so he’s “returning” to youtube…. again? i remember when he made a big deal about a “return” like 2 years ago and his grand return video was (allegedly) really bad. time really is a flat circle.

[@I_love_dr_stone]

he seemingly does this whenever he's low on rent, lol.

[@gracekim25]

Oh

[@sorbet3042]

honestly its just a cycle at this point

[@rebeccawalton4862]

I live in the UK, our restrictions were fully lifted months ago, and now our healthcare system is on the verge of collapse and cases are surging again and we just discovered a new sub strain of delta spreading rapidly so we're kinda fucked

[@Pinely]

I spend most of my time in the U.K and I'm coming back in a few weeks, if there'll be another lockdown now im crying

[@gracekim25]

Oh wait you’re here?😅

[@gracekim25]

Well we’re doomed😅

[@BiggerR10]

What are you doing over there? Where i live, it is like covid is no more. Only mask in the bus

[@Lovefortea448]

Yeah I dunno about Australia but we're not in lockdown anymore although we still have to wear masks in public.

[@HiddenMongoose]

When my grandmother had cancer prior to covid hit, she was told she had a 98% survival rate. 2% death chance. She was my fucking world and I think that if anyone said "oh only 2% die. It's no biggie. Were making lymphoma a bigger deal than we need to." I'd fucking be in prison soon after. I'd be pissed. It doesnt just effect the people, it effects their families and friends. My grandmother was a saint and my idol. People who value peoples lives like statistics and get cocky are why shes dead. Her doctor was like "oh 98% is no biggie" and didnt view her as a priority. Shit like this is how people die.

[@MorbyLol]

Grade never grew up from the 2016-2018 anti sjw phase we all had And regret

[@tomatoesarejustworsecucumb3534]

he is also in his mid 30s

[@AleTitan]

@@tomatoesarejustworsecucumb3534 which makes it much worse

[@renderwren4284]

​@@tomatoesarejustworsecucumb3534 Your username changed my life. I can't even say that I agree with it, but I can say that it made me think very hard with my fried little brain and question what I knew about tomatoes

[@MorbyLol]

@TheCottonCandyBreedCreature stop feeling me youre 9

[@MorbyLol]

@@hmlandis1370 damn you still in yours

[@zuziamaciaszek3935]

I really like how Pinely always approches topics like this one or Shane Dawson's conspiracies, with genuine empathy. Love your videos, mate :)

[@aaronjustice9020]

But he is objectively wrong here. He is just the opposite extreme of the dude he is criticizing. The virus is no longer novel, it is endemic, and doesn't now not did it ever have a 2% mortality rate. They had to throw out the PCR testing used to determine all cases the first year. The vaccines are low efficacy trash. Calling a spade a spade doesn't make someone anti vax. Everyone with common sense sees it, but they are afraid to be labeled. It's a virtue signal. They could call for safer more effective vaccines, but nope they will bite the bullet for vaccines that provide just 3% protection after a few months.

[@killer257]

@@aaronjustice9020 shhh shhh the vaxxers/maskers don't like the truth

[@crystalbutterfly2758]

@@killer257 "maskers," honey it's been proven that wearing a mask reduced the spread of covId. also if it didn't, it still reduced the spread of many other diseases. have you seen 2020's flu death/hospitalization rates? they were so small compared to 201'9s

[@killer257]

@@crystalbutterfly2758 flu? That's not a thing anymore

[@gracekim25]

@@aaronjustice9020 you do NOT have common sense!

[@aryswheel9327]

the focus on numbers while ignoring the actual published death toll in favor of a percent that means about the same thing but looks smaller is mwah incredible

[@RampagingFlippy030]

well...I can see why at least, as according to the published death rates, China's death rates are lower than ours.

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

i bet he believes those ludicris conspiracy theories of hospitals listing nonCOVID deaths as COVID deaths. I even heard some right wingers claim that hospitals get paid for every COVID death they get. THERE'S NO WAY THAT COULD BE TRUE!

[@ryudhal]

@@RampagingFlippy030 You know what probably has even lower rates? North Korea. What are you trying to say?

[@RampagingFlippy030]

@@ryudhal that trusting all of the published death tolls is a little silly when we have nations known for lying their asses off to either save their hides or scare the populace?

[@ryudhal]

@@RampagingFlippy030 That's a fair assessment. But most people usually go even further than that into some real conspiracy, and it really muddles the line between being critical and the absolute opposite.

[@joshk8462]

Can’t support him after this video absolutely insane how he just glosses over 1/50 people dying

[@penguinthepurple]

Pinely is better at numbers than Grade

[@lorijay3539]

Don't worry though, most of those people dying are just old people. As we all know old people just don't count as people and therefore don't matter apparently. It's really gross and disheartening that this was the vibe Grade A was giving off during his video.

[@iamahiphopfan3759]

@@lorijay3539 don’t forget the people with underlying health conditions

[@Iexecutioner]

@@lorijay3539 kill the elderly

[@zerog1037]

So because 1/50 people passed away which btw is a overestimated figure..we should just stop wht we're doing and let everyone suffer? Thts messed up man.

[@kreeper803]

I love how Grade just casually endorses eugenics by saying that the weak and the old should just be allowed to be killed by the disease since it doesn't effect the populations Grade thinks are worthwhile. That's literally eugenics, that's what eugenics is.

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

Wow, that’s definitely not taking his video WAYY out of context to pull accusations of “ableism” out if nowhere

[@kreeper803]

@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 he literally said that covid doesn't matter because it only effects the weak and the old????? That's what eugenics is, that's literally eugenics

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

@@kreeper803 No that’s not what he said. He just said that it happens to affect the old and weak the most, which is a statistical fact. He didn’t say “COVID-19 kills the old and weak lol fuck them” At no point is it implied or uttered that he thinks the old and weak should be killed, just that the virus affects them most. Pulling insults out of nowhere to foster some faux outrage where none exists is totally stupid. And if you still aren’t convinced, then your argument is basically the same as saying “women are more likely to die from childbirth therefore that’s promoting femicide”

[@daboring1]

Wow it's almost like everyone treats people as human beings with feelings and emotion and value to their life and not just some sort of statistic number

[@FrenkTheJoy]

It's definitely not true that EVERYONE treats people as human beings. I mean, do the words "crisis actor" ring an irritating bell with you? I'm not surprised at all that people like Grade are like this, but I'm unfortunately not quite numb to it yet.

[@daboring1]

@@FrenkTheJoy there was at some point in China one of the congress people of the CCP said that they handle the covid pandemic pretty good because they had "only" about 30k deaths out of their 1 billion population. These people really throw it off for me

[@shockwavesteve]

Well buddy, don’t go to Wikipedia and look at battle casualties

[@giantpinkcat]

@@shockwavesteve How does that change his point? You don't take people who've died in war seriously either? Even those who were in the bloodiest and most pointless ones?

[@shockwavesteve]

Giant Pink Cat The most pointless wars are the ones which developed the world the most

[@ArtistDoesArt2020]

I loved his older videos because they were mundane and stupid topics, things you'd talk to your friends about. Getting a haircut, school, animal names, drinks, it was simple. Plus, it is seemingly endless. There are so many mundane topics to cover and make a silly video. The main draw was that is a was a guy yelling and cursing about something that does not deserve that level of activation or attention. Now its angry man yelling about politics and controversy.

[@Spunro]

exactly my thoughts

[@gznao]

I don’t think he realised the effect Covid had especially in some parts of the UK. he can’t really say if it’s overhyped or not since some places in the uk like in the southeast really had bad outbreaks even this year and there was a whole new variant of Covid that originated here

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

yeah the lockdown mandates were not extreme enough which is why the virus is still as bad as it is. Plus those dang antivaxxers.

[@gznao]

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 The Uk should of done what Australia/New Zealand did which was a full on lockdown until there was no cases of Covid or only a few

[@gmc5618]

@@gznao 100%

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@gznao Thankfully it's not too late to try another, much more extreme lockdown. I really hope they do for everyone's safety and wellbeing.

[@bartvshomer]

@@gznao That is a lie. Im from Aus and we opened up with 500 cases still least in NSW. If anything during lockdown numbers went up to 2000s and was only till we started opening up more. Apprently we still have 200 or so a day but the numbers have stopped being blasted in our face least from sources I've been seeing. Don't even get me started on Melborne, most lockdowned place in the world and had the highest Covid numbers in Aus. Wrap your head around that fact.

[@xXtrial_and_errorXx]

To the nurses and doctors in the comments, thank you for your service and hard fuckin work

[@lordskeletor481]

The person who said hospitals are empty is definitely one of those weirdos who goes into the lobby of a hospital filming to try and disprove COVID. Like I've been to a hospital in 2021 to visit my aunt who was undergoing major cardiac surgery in a state with pretty decent vaccination rates and there was not an empty room in the unit.

[@t.o.4251]

Or singling out wards that aren't Covid wards. Yeah people probably ARE postponing their sleep labs, knee replacements, and gastric bypasses and leaving those halls empty. I wonder why...

[@MiorAkif]

@@t.o.4251 Or waiting for the ward to be briefly empty and then quickly filming it before more patients flood in

[@jimbojimbo7103]

Different in the UK, I got lost leaving a hospital a while back, atleast 4 empty rooms with 4 beds in each on one ward. My mum who was in hospital asked the nurse where the covid ward was just out of curiosity, the nurse just smirked and didn't answer, of course people are suspicious.

[@t.o.4251]

@@jimbojimbo7103 Your mum wasn't let into a ward with patients who have a highly communicable disease? Real mystery there.

[@jimbojimbo7103]

@@t.o.4251 Where did I say she asked to go into a covid ward?

[@donnylurch4207]

I wish that comedians like GradeA could learn to take an L. I find people willing to accept they were wrong way more enduring than some guy who constantly beats the drum of his own ignorance without compromise.

[@wolfie1234100]

Also if you survive covid, the long term effects can be really awful.

[@Pinely]

One of the things that pushed me to get vaccinated as fast as I can was a friend of mine who got covid a year ago and still can't smell. Which compared to other effects people got is way more tame, but I still wouldn't really like to have that!

[@Krylon127]

Who would have thought that the anti sjw there are too many genders guy is anti vax I wonder what other far right opinions he has …?

[@iceicicle3046]

He's fine with the lgbtq community for the most part. Unless his opinions changed or something.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

I don’t know. Dude never seemed particularly far right back in the day. You go back and watch some of his old shit, dude seemed fairly progressive.

[@Agentohyeah]

I feel like him constantly staying at home and being isolated from real life made him like this. I highly doubt Grade went outside alot in last couple of years so he just was at home swallowing all the alt-right info he could get.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

@@Agentohyeah I don’t think he’s Alt-Right. There’s not much to imply that. And like, how many Indian guys are obsessed with the superiority of the “white race” anyway? Seems pretty unlikely.

[@flygod916]

@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 not all far right beliefs boil down to white power some are just batshit theories about Democrats and insane views on the world as a whole

[@itsjustnia336]

I mean he wasn't the most wholesome and squeaky clean youtuber ever tbh

[@isaiahsimmons5776]

no 69 references at all on his channel

[@ZachGatesHere]

This one hurt my soul. I was a big fan of his back at his peak, winced at his recent videos and then that COVID video was just... Good God. Also, 2% would mean EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE just in the United States.

[@sleepybearcubxx]

Plus, there's probably plenty of deaths that weren't directly from COVID but still related. E.g, deaths from those who went into depressions or destructive habits as a response to the world shutting down. It's how I lost my father. And then there's people losing jobs and everything, it's more than just what the virus can do itself that's a problem.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

@@sleepybearcubxx There's a comic artist who shared that her father came down with covid. He recovered, but he had an underlying infection that was unrelated to covid that basically got aggravated by covid, and it was that infection which killed him. So he's not a covid statistic, but he'd most likely still be alive if he hadn't caught covid.

[@LordSiah]

That is true but I agree with grade because I would swear that there's a higher mortality rate because of covid I think the way the media portrays it is definitely not all the way the truth

[@I_love_dr_stone]

Serioustly though, we can all agree he just came back because he was low on rent right?

[@goatmilk1]

no

[@gracekim25]

Yeah……

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Him and CreepshowArt

[@JayJay12444]

Can not believe you didn’t take advantage of the Adam and Eve sponsorship and say “so you can be played with too.”

[@beth4928]

Both members of my family that died were elderly (ages 65 and 92) with underlying health conditions. The idea that their entire lives, their loves and hates, partners, pets...none of it matters, just because they were more vulnerable than the general population. Fuck, it's hard to swallow. The ableism and eugenics lite (tm) is infuriating. People like grade seem to think empathy is a vice. Disgustang.

[@peterwallis4288]

Though we always get fatalities in vulnerable populations from flus and colds, and we don't shut down the country. I think that's the point.

[@mehdihatami3391]

@@peterwallis4288 The difference is that COVID has killed many more people because it is more contagious than the flu and has a higher mortality rate. The economy is recovering anyway while those who died won't be coming back anytime soon.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

"Oh we need a diarrhea vaccine!" Well, sure, if that was possible. People do die from diarrhea-related problems, and it would be great if people didn't have diarrhea anymore.

[@MoonAirN]

it took me this long to realise he’s the manifestation of twitter none of the good parts of it

[@graysteel]

Because you just don’t like him? Grow up.

[@EroisonC]

@@graysteel 🗿

[@kenmken]

@@graysteel Do you have 5 alt accounts you use to like your comments kid?

[@graysteel]

@@kenmken Mad that there are others smarter than you? Envy looks bad on you.

[@danniuwu8628]

@@graysteel lmao you're getting so triggered, I guess here comes the blizzard ❄

[@NicelyWhypped]

Been a fan of grade for a long time and a recent fan of yours over the last year and love your content. Couldn’t agree with everything you said in the video more. His video had no point, made no sense, and didn’t take any of the actual relevant information into account whatsoever. Damn shame

[@raquetdude]

"Trust my own immune systems" and here with have someone who should have died from measles or be dead already from something else. Gather he ain't gonna bother going anywhere too foreign cause his immune system can protect himself against fuckin mosquitos carrying diseases.

[@ddjsoyenby]

..............does he know anything...

[@davidthebanana8522]

I think he is trying to say that we shouldn't depend solely on the vaccine for safety against covid. Of course, the vaccine is rather effective for such a novel disease, but you have to acknowledge that in the case of misfortune, your immune system plays a role in easing the severity of covid.

[@ddjsoyenby]

@@davidthebanana8522 vaccines work by giving the immune system practice so saying "i'll rely on my immune system" when asked about vaccines is astoundingly ignorant at best.

[@davidthebanana8522]

​@@ddjsoyenby it gives the immune system practice, but symptoms still differ from case to case when vaccinated. Not saying that I agree with him, but I believe that he is not as anti-covid-vax as many may say so. I inferred that he believes that there are other factors more significant in addition to the jab, like maintaining general health (judging from his personal opinions).

[@milf_slayer_4951]

He was only talking about the covid vaccine because although the vaccine would reduce the severity of covid if you are young and with no underlying health issues you most likely won't die. He never said that he doesn't need any vaccines at all ( like a flu vaccine or treatment against malaria) I'm not personally saying that the covid vaccine is useless but as long as he isn't hurting people by not taking it I think he should have the choice to risk his life and health even if that leads to severe consequences.

[@HotMess320]

Also, the fact that he is a teacher (or was last I heard) makes this even worse. I was under the impression that they are supposed to enlighten the youth and be role models.

[@iamjustkiwi]

My sons 1st grade teachers recently got fired for refusing to get vaccinated OR do weekly testing. It was so painful to see since my son loved him and he encouraged his curiosity and love of science. Thankfully, my son continued to learn while this teacher seems to have regressed. He just couldn't grasp why someone he thought was a wise person had thrown aside all logic. I think some people cannot handle being wrong and would rather double down forever than actually growing and learning. I think that should be what determines someone adulthood...ability to both accept unfortunate realities as well as admitting when you're wrong and continuing to grow when new evidence comes forwards. Its definitely what I look for the most in people now.

[@arthurfine4284]

He said he got fired prior to doing KZbin full time. He said it was over a disagreement about teaching style with the head of the math department at the school he worked at, but I doubt it. Granted, I don't work in the UK, so I don't know if they are more looser with labor laws, but in the US, it's impossible to get fired unless you do something illegal, like defrauding your employer.

[@AKA253]

The reason “my body my choice” doesn’t apply to a jab is because it affects more than your body… it’s not just YOUR health, it’s those around you. So you don’t have “your choice” as openly accepted when it’s not just affecting one lone person.

[@KolchaksGhost]

If the vaccine is so great then the only people who should be affected by non-vaccinated people would be fellow non-vaccinated people

[@maggiezv505]

His new video made me realize that I was just a stupid kid when I started watching youtube and reminds me of the early to mid 2010's cringe comps, anti sjw, edge lord days that as a lot of us have aged we outgrew. Sure this stuff still exists, but its not the same. Ppl dont care about genders and "cringe" and hating political correctness like we used to. Ppl either became super radicalized in hating these things which lead to bigger ideas (alt right pipeline) or they realized its stupid to be mad that ppl like to be call "they/them" and got some empathy and dont care anymore. We seem more "sensitive" because we realized a lot of this stuff doesnt hurt anyone and makes ppl happy. In the 2020 especially, even mildly empathic ppl realized how ridiculous this world is and the chaos behind the scenes and realized that we have bigger problems than not getting the point of a gender neutral bathroom. We cant get housing, the job market is a mess, our mental health is broken. And what? You want me to hate on a 14 year old in ohio eho started hormone treatment? Yeah no. We grew up. Im over it. Fine im overly sensitive, whatever. At least i don't waste my time hating abstract concepts and what to make something of my life and the lives of others on this doomed planet. Jesus.

[@arthurfine4284]

Some people never grow up. Unfortunately, they are also the people who scream the loudest.

[@beebo7071]

I grew up the same way on here. It scared me how much of a ride I was taken on when I came to my scenes and gained the empathy for others I didn’t even know I lacked.

[@dollienan]

Another category is ppl who became or came out as ppl we used to make fun of as edge lord kids

[@flygod916]

Lol this legit is the definition of how I always viewed things not to pat myself on the back but even as a 13 year old I was confused as to why people fucking cared if people wanted to go by they or whatever and maybe it boiled down to my own feelings, I'm definitely ain't straight lol or at least way more open to pursing a relationship with anyone lol, but it just always confused me why people care that fucking much

[@KolchaksGhost]

What did I just read

[@fionafox420]

I hate videos like Grade’s. it stinks of; “I’ve never lost any loved ones or friends from COVID”. This disease is no joke, I’ve lost 16 people from my life this year. I’ve been to 8 funerals since the end of July. People like him saying all this wrong stuff so confidently gets people killed. And yeah, a good many of the people I know that have passed have been older, or had some kind of condition that exasperated their COVID. However, that doesn’t mean it was totally fine and cool that they died. These people have families and friends that grieve the loss. Don’t even get me started n the hospital situation. My dad recently had a heart attack (he’s okay now, but recovering) and my mom had to drive almost an hour to a hospital that had an available bed. Sorry for the rant, it’s been a tough year.

[@DrErikNefarious]

Isn't his name based on how he's a "grade a" student but is an underachiever. Well, he's certainly living up to his goddamn name in terms of the underachieving part.

[@mariella2884]

Covid nurse here. What people continuously fail to recognise in my mind is there are worse things than death. Hear me out. The toll that covid continues to take on your entire healthcare system is intolerable. I’ve watched people wait hours for a bed for real medical concerns due to understaffing/overcrowding. We have extreme burn out, we have people passing when it was possible for recovery if we had resources. I’ve watched all ages struggle to breath, if you’ve ever had a serious respiratory infection you know the levels of anxiety and pain that come with it. I’ve watched too many people break down because they gave someone who didn’t survive it. Consider it is more than one number. Be safe 💕

[@destrious8133]

There's something so...sad about Grade trying to come back like this. It's honestly hard to watch. He feels like a loser fighting for rights again with "facts and logic" that he clearly didn't research.

[@lukehunt2062]

This is like what H3H3 said about Leafy but actually true! GradeA can’t survive in 2021 KZbin (I believe Leafy could’ve but he was targeted by Ethan too much imo, don’t know if he did have anything to do with it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did lol)

[@DaxmathecoolNobodie]

I love how GradeA equates vaccine mandates so that we can get back to some sort of normalcy and public safety to forcing women to have unwanted pregnancies thus creating more of a welfare state and inevitably putting even more kids in foster care. Makes sense

[@TheRandomRager]

Well at least he still came back... *leaves youtube for another year again*

[@Akursedtime]

My cousin and high school friend are both nurses and they have told me about the lives in the ICU. It's traumatic and losing people to covid is absolutely devastating to them. One of them said, we are supposed to save lives but I feel like I'm losing my own. I lost a family member. Not to covid but during the pandemic and I couldn't even go see her or be with her. So it makes me think of all the families who were not there to be with their loved ones in the hospital or to see them a final time. So knowing Grade has this stance on the pandemic. It's no wonder he got close to Keemstar.

[@alvarorey9308]

Another thing Grade forgot to mention just because you survive doesn't mean you are left unharmed. I heard of stories of people who are young and super healthy gotten covid and are barely alive and could be at risk if they get another major disease.

[@Minali-zm3ik]

I’m 17 and I had Covid back in January. It was fine just long my smell and taste, no other symptoms. I realized it was harder to breathe after and it’s October now, I still have trouble. There are definitely after effects

[@TheUglyAnswers]

Quick reminder that 2% of the Earth's population is like 150,000,000 people

[@Soofgi20]

I really love this new format you have been using Pinely, its great that someone is trying to stop the stupid myths that are spread in youtube.

[@bsings7928]

2% completely won’t survive. But a much larger amount will with debilitating defects from it.

[@twixieshores]

That's the thing that always got to me. It's not a simple "survive or not" argument. It's a "do you really want to deal with all the other shit than can come from a covid infection" argument

[@icedmochaart]

If anyone is wondering, 2% of 7 billion is 140,000,000 people. 2% is NOT a small percentage.

[@icedmochaart]

@@Handwritinghelp I didn't say 7 billion people got covid? But there are 7 billion people on earth who could possibly get covid and die from it. Sure there are factors that make it more likely or unlikely but essentially everyone can get it. To say 'only 2% dies from covid' reminds me of when people said 'only 1% of the earth's population is asexual' to make it seem like a really small number to make us seem insignificant. That 1% however are so much more people than you'd think. The same with the 2%. I'm not saying 7 billion people got covid I was just making clear how big of a number 2% really is especially when you're talking about deaths. Hope I cleared it up, I made my earlier comment when it was really late so I didn't rlly explain much further

[@BlueSkidoo13]

This is such a thing to say when you don't have empathy and never had the virus. I had it. I had pre stroke symptoms and my taste and smell completely changed over night. And while that was going on, my husband I'd married a month before was in the hospital in critical condition and had to be sent home with oxygen once it wasn't critical. I tried to take a run the other day and my lungs are still burning from the attempt. It'll have been a year next month since I had it. And I bet if I told this to grade A under a he'd just go "Facts don't care about your feelings" and just disregard it.

[@BiggerR10]

I had it too, and i'm fine. Just like most people ....

[@greenhowie]

@@BiggerR10 Have you lost any family members to covid? I've lost three.

[@BlueSkidoo13]

@@BiggerR10 "I've had and I'm fine" is your way of telling me, a previously healthy 26 year old man, that my experiences are invalid. Like good for you. Super cool and great. Way to ignore and invalidate the entire story I told lmao. How cool and empathetic of you.

[@consentclub8431]

Its incredibly amusing that his argument boils down to "you're taking this deadly virus too seriously"

[@dyfanturner4202]

I’ve been a fan of Grade’s since around 2017 and was disgusted by his video, it displayed a total lack of empathy for people who’ve suffered during this pandemic.

[@MikeJr9284]

GradeAUnderA: *takes his usual hiatus* Also GradeAUnderA: *returns to KZbin and uploads a video downplaying the virus*

[@dontmindme8709]

I used to watch his videos too. Even saw the recent one about raising awareness. It didn't feel so special, but also didn't put me off. I never watched the covid-19 video though. I saw the title and knew it was over

[@justsomeone496]

Same. Honestly about that other video it was weird? It's like he missed the point of raising awareness?

[@dontmindme8709]

@@justsomeone496 Yeah I too didn't care much about that video. It was just so pointless. Of course there are people pretending to care about things for attention, but that doesn't negate the positives of the public getting a better understanding of societal problems. Either it's like you say, that he missed the point, or he just wanted a topic to rant about in a video and just forced it. Not good either way.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

GradeAUnderA… *shuts book, takes off reading glasses* I haven’t heard that name in a looooong time

[@Kage-jk4pj]

Good

[@Bboy10110]

I'm kinda disappointed with my past self for watching grade so much. At the time I definitely leaned into the anti-sjw shit storm. Luckily I was able to get out of that hole before I was an asshole forever. Being in that space of youtube made it a lot harder for me to realize a lot of things about myself, like the fact that I was non-binary, because watching those videos made me want to ignore it.

[@pandaitis0157]

same, and I've heard that from lots of other people too. 2016 youtube was a shit show.

[@flygod916]

@@pandaitis0157 2016 was a hellhole and it seems many are barley realizing it now lol I mainly just avoided it by sticking to gaming comedy vids but Jesus the little stuff I'd see had me cringing even as a 13 year old

[@KolchaksGhost]

@@pandaitis0157 2016 was a beautiful year all around

[@pandaitis0157]

@@KolchaksGhost that was the most pathetic troll attempt I've ever seen

[@KolchaksGhost]

@@pandaitis0157 good, I’m not trolling

[@lesscringeymapperdude]

He was red flag the moment he posted the video on why washing your hands was stupid

[@gracekim25]

Uh oh

[@drive9395]

That was his eighth video.

[@lesscringeymapperdude]

@@drive9395 ik

[@gmc5618]

Super disturbing he used to teach sixth form mathematics, especially with that grasp of statistics. I smell a grifter and bad faith actor.

[@ratchetxtreme6591]

You know, it was probably best for Grade A Under A to be left in 2016 where he belonged.

[@natalieee24]

pinely out here combatting misinformation from other popular youtubers (like shane dawson too), you're doing great work!!

[@BiggerR10]

No, he just sucks now

[@xtdycxtfuv9353]

misinformation=anything i disagree with in b4 le science

[@Jupa]

2% is a SHIT TON. It’s been 2 years, over the course of that time I’ve known at least 70-100 people who had been infected. And personally know 1 person who died from it and people who know more people they know personally who died, that’s a sharp rise in people dying around you for those that exist outside of their bedrooms

[@iamcoolalot]

one of the old youtube giants.glad to see him toppling down.

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

old youtube is too problematic

[@BiggerR10]

He's not, he is going up

[@iamcoolalot]

@@BiggerR10 you're delusional

[@dherilranacp]

@@BiggerR10 with 600k views and 20k dislike.... yeah 🙄

[@isaiahsimmons5776]

i wouldnt call him a giant nor old youtube.

[@veteranredbeard6222]

I will say that hospitals near me aren't packed at all. The ER is deserted and when I was in the ICU, the doctor told me only 3 covid cases were there in a two months span, and this was a big city.

[@hypocriticalsatire3966]

Maybe he's doing this on purpose. Trolling his audience so he can pull a hiatus with no guilt.

[@lipstickgamer6580]

Two of my coworkers died of Covid, one of my mothers friends is forever crippled due to Covid, a friend of mine nearly died of covid… I feel like most people have stories like this but nah, natural immunity ftw

[@kglistless]

My mom, who has ASTHMA, uses the underlying health conditions argument. She also things that my grandparents who both survived cancer are overreacting because they want her to get vaccinated before visiting the house.

[@DarkCartoon_music]

GradeAUnderA just shows a depressing lack of empathy for anyone affected by this virus at all. Not to mention that he treated the deaths of older people and people with underlying health conditions as "no big deal." How disrespectful

[@FairyCRat]

I guess he meant that those people were already doomed anyway.

[@phyokyawkhaing2251]

@@FairyCRat Yea, but the thing is that those susceptible people arent doomed if everyone else just took the vaccine. Things like seniors dying in nursing homes could be prevented if all the workers there just took the vaccine.

[@lindseyspuria424]

gradeaundera made a tucker carlson segment without the production value

[@kingkaza]

We love your grandparents too Say hi to them for us

[@llewelynshingler2173]

GradeA UnderA: The Straw War.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

I love how he just randomly cherrypicks a number to get us to “one healthy person dies”. There aren’t 40,000 COVID cases, Grade. There are like, 280 MILLION.

[@VioletPetalberry]

I swear, if he ever comes down with Covid, I feel like his opinion on the matter will change

[@PotatoHero524]

that’s how it works with people like this, they only care about something once it effects them. right now he’s annoyed that people he doesn’t like want him to get vaccinated and take care of his community so that’s the big issue.