Graded Exercise Therapy vs Restorative Movement | CFS Health

[@brendareed8412]

I am not criticizing you, Toby, in fact, I listen to your videos because they are so supportive. It struck me, however, listening to this vid how much mental maturity, self-awareness self-restraint and control, and breadth of vision is demanded of us CFS/ME sufferers. How many other disease victims as sick as we are must maintain such refined and sophisticated mental processes in order to manage, let alone improve, our condition? None, frankly. Again, I am not criticizing you, Toby, only making an observation of what it is to live with CFS/ME a disease that has been abandoned by the medical world and having to be one's own doctor, nurse, assistant, therapist, collaborator, monitor, etc.

[@lunitee]

It's gonna take what it's gonna take;)

[@rachelwhite438]

Hey at least it’s considered a real disease now. imagine being diagnosed with this before 2007.

[@ginb1598]

Lovely Video clip! Forgive me for chiming in, I am interested in your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Trentvorty Visible Beauty Theorem (Sure I saw it on Google)? It is a smashing one of a kind product for getting rid of your Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS/ME) without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my cousin at very last got cool results with it.

[@mellie4174]

Couldn't agree more

[@yee3771]

Anyone else have mono?

[@mattdoores4611]

Great video and advice. I thought I was doing everything I could to recover (exercise, sleep, nutrition etc) But I was going nowhere and in fact I was getting worse. It wasn't until I started doing meditation and a bit of EFT that my health has slowly started to improve. So although I didn't feel stressed I obviously was and it was holding my health back. I also stopped searching for cures and researching CFS and I think this also helped to DE-stress. One final thing that has helped me is going for a short walk first thing in the morning and getting some fresh air. It seems to give me more energy throughout the day and I sleep better at night.

[@CFSHealth]

Thanks for your insight Matt! Very good points!

[@viviennebedford6280]

Excellent Toby.

[@karinboyle188]

Love this video. Puts it all into perspective. Allowing ourselves to be flexible is so freeing. Thankyou Toby.

[@CFSHealth]

Thanks Karen for da south!

[@grahamkeil2253]

Thanks Toby Great video I know it's subjective and you can't identify us as individuals You are so right re making it right for 'you' In my view it's the difference between an off the rack suit or tailored made As I see it you are recommending a tailored suit given our specific challenges Thanks again!🙂🙏🙂

[@CFSHealth]

Great analogy graham! Make the suit to fit you!

[@carolgore6642]

Very helpful video Toby will be doing it many thanks xxx

[@CFSHealth]

Thank you!

[@sandrawheeler1521]

Brilliant decription of gradual excercise build up.

[@sandrawheeler1521]

But all the importance of all the combined factors which medical science do not comprehend. Diet, sleep, supplements. Healing, balancing the gut flora. Meditation. Eft. Caming down the nervous system response. Healing the adrenal fatigue. Resting. Listening to your body. Not pushing your body. My consutalnt endo diagnosed me then told me to go swimming!!! Just shows how little understanding medical science has...needless to say Tobybi soon put that consultant straight...Swimming...I can barely walk downstairs...I dont hold back...😂🤣 And i will not untill they finally listen. The more of our stories we tell. The more the so called " consultants, experts" will understand how wrong they have got this...so i am writing my recovery story. First copy to GP. Second to Consultant. Both totally baffled at my recovery... it can be done guys. Yiu just need a good coach like toby who has recovered himself from cfs. No one else understands this unless they have had cfs. Or how to recover...

[@carolgore6642]

Very helpful advice Toby many thanks

[@CFSHealth]

Thanks carol

[@anitacrosbie69]

Thanks Toby! Im finding that Restorative Yoga or Yin Yoga is helping me and Im building from there to do more strength based poses. Really find all your videos super helpful and you are the only one giving relevant advice that I have found! Thanks :)

[@victoriachang9558]

This is right on! First person to explain this, all things I have learned after having Fibromyalgia for 40 yrs. Except for Yoga, so hard. I stretch and walk, but the amount That works for Me.

[@helenwilliams9175]

thank you very helpful Toby

[@courtneyjayne4781]

What is restorative movement?

[@sarahyardley1923]

Good video Toby, you talk about nutrition, have you done a video to cover this subject please?

[@ratmalschonweiter1734]

I would be really interested in this too

[@CFSHealth]

Yes I am in the process of doing this now!

[@ratmalschonweiter1734]

Great! Thanks :)

[@sarahyardley1923]

Great news thank you :)

[@K9Trainer100]

Hi Toby, im struggling to know what movement to do to improve. My CFS is pretty bad I have to rest after every little thing. Showering exhausts me! I can't stand for long, after 5 mins I'm struggling & after 10 I'm getting unwell (hot, nauseous dizzy). I'm not getting out much as im exhausted before I start! How do I improve when so little exhausts me?! x

[@CFSHealth]

Hey Thea! I had a few female clients who were at your stage recently. They started with their daily baseline before even starting a movement program. And once that was established. They went on to slow restorative movement from their bed and progressed from there. One lady went from that, to being fully functional and driving herself everywhere and walking the beach for 30 mins. She was in the online program. Probably a perfect place for you to start. So start slow, get in a good baseline first then progress. Email Lani at [e-mail] and enquire about getting some help through the main online program from home! Best wishes!

[@AhilianFreestyle]

Thanks Toby another great vid. Just crashed into the valley 😂

[@shipmaster8290]

hi i just subbed really great video thank u

[@veer9423]

I've got CFS after 2 years on severe stress, is this still called CFS?.. I've been sick for 3 years now. Don't do any school, work or anything at all, but can't seem to recover. I'm struggling so so so much to find something that works. I tried so many things, but I'm not sure if it's CFS. I did every medical test available so it's not that..

[@ElizabethWallacePOP]

Restorative Exercise Movements - you describe these as breathing, stretching, yoga, meditation (from listening). These things can help you to get 30% of your functioning back but it's a slow boat to China when such things as showering, trying to dress, or a little exertion doing necessary basic housework and life tasks produces debilitation, exhaustion and if you don't sit down fast - a possible crash. Personally I don't think you've ever had this disease to be able to know how a person truly feels with it. Whilst the GET therapy is not particularly useful for CFS, what it does do is help a person structure their day into blocks of tasks that they love to do...eg. gardening; then REST, playing guitar (then REST) etc ..to assist in slowly getting 30% of functioning back. Restoring anything more than that is super! (Believe me 30% functioning is great after you've been totally bedridden!) How many people with CFS can successfully whip around their apartment each day and manage to vacuum, pushing the machine? Not many. It's an effort just to groom and dress let alone walk out of the home ending up slowly in a circuit around the block after thousands of tries and sitting on just about everyone's fence breathless. Better to have a pet to help you walk - exercise - as long as there's home help to look after you and your assisting pooch when you eventually get home from around the block. When a doggie can keep you company and pull you along it's even a little better for company when ill makes a person feel a little better. Nice example of restorative exercise - if you can work up to it...as you say in stages.

[@loobylouboti]

Elizabeth. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, as we all are OFC, however to say (and I quote,) "Personally I don't think you've ever had this disease to be able to know how a person truly feels with it." was neither necessary, mindful nor very kind IMO. :( Having been signed up to the CFS Health program since January of this year since a MASSIVE 'crash,' in symptoms left me completely house bound/bed bound and honestly believing I was dying, I am able to honestly say that Toby and his small team are absolute ANGELS. They are so down to earth, relatable, kind, caring and so super helpful and knowledgeable, having absolutely been through the illness themselves, now many years ago. I could gush kind words about them all day! But I'll just leave this here instead and say that in having worked with the guys, stuck to and implemented the program, and changed my mind set and 'set my mind,' to I damn WILL recover, the improvements have been remarkable! I still have a way to go, however I now have MUCH less pain, MUCH less fatigue, MUCH less brain fog and I only see a 100% recovery in my future now. God bless everyone on this journey, and I'd like to remind everyone (on a CFS journey or not!) that 'YOU GOT THIS!' ;)

[@neoreoscar27]

@@loobylouboti How are you doing now? Is the online course expensive? Thank you

[@loobylouboti]

@@neoreoscar27 Hey there. Wow, you commenting on this and so me reading what I had written back then, is very encouraging to me, because I'm personally stilll on my recovery journey so I kinda needed to re read just how optimistic I was. Lol I mean look, I can get out every 2-3 days now for a short walk.. But it is a very short walk. But then I am having to do all housekeeping and shopping etc myself. And I wasn't able to do any of that back when I left this comment. Unfortunately I haven't seen the improvement that I so hoped for, but then I have had alot of other crap to deal with, Inc the neighbours from hell, and a subsequent home move, to a quieter place by the sea. But that's all taken it's toll AND it means I have no friends or neighbours (the good ones, lol) to help me anymore as they are a little far from me now. I also think I had set my expectations high and when that didn't happen in the time frame i imagined for myself, then nightmare neighbours moved in, the pandemic hit and I then moved home 2yrs later..It's all left me rather defeated and disheartened. Funnily enough, this year I'm giving it a renewed hope..But setting my sights a little little lower, in that maybe I won't fully recover, but I KNOW I can improve more than this, if I stop feeling sorry for myself. As for the programme. Toby changed it. So now it's around 300quid/dollars, per month. Which I think is ridiculous personally. And, as much as I value Toby and his experience etc, if one had/has, that kind of money to spend per month on a program of this kind, I would one million % recommend The Optimum Health Clinic over CFS Health. (But I do still believe CFS Health os helping some ppl to recover. I just no longer personally believe that *full* recovery is possible for everyone.) Super long reply, sorry. Hope it helps!

[@neoreoscar27]

@@loobylouboti No that’s actually super helpful and very realistic! It’s so hard, isn’t it - to finally have some hope and have it somewhat dashed. But the fact you can see some improvement and have a new attitude is testament to your spirit and tenacity. I agree, we must not give up. Even a small improvement is encouraging. You’ve had a lot to deal with! I hope your move to the seaside is just the tonic you need! It sounds lovely :)) I think a lot of it is helped by our mindset but it’s so hard to get there without a lot of inner work. I’m feeling more positive than I have in a long time too. Hoping it’s our year!! Haha. Have to hope! 😊😝 Be kind to yourself and take care. Thanks so much for replying. X

[@loobylouboti]

@@neoreoscar27 Awwww, bless you. You know, I really needed to hear that. Timing or what?! 😊 Mindset is key, for sure, but It's incredibly difficult (especially as I live alone and the isolation is crippling,) to stay on track and not, for me, beat myself up continually. Especially as I know so much about health and wellness myself! Praying for miracles for us both this year! God bless you. Glad I could be of some help, though tbf, you might have helped me more! Ha Take care xx