Grading Every Camera Maker's 2023 Performance | The PetaPixel Podcast

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

As a camera nerd that happens to be a PC nerd : Chris be careful with that AIO in your Fractal Terra ! By puttin the radiator at the bottom, you make the water block the lowest point in the water cooling loop ! There is always air in those loops, if not here by incorrect filling in the factory, air will get in through permeation anyway. Bottom line there is always a volume of air, whatever if it's a n open or closed loop (like you have) That means that the bubble of air will travel to the top of the loop, which is your pump/waterblock ! Not only you'll not get full proper coverage on the cold plate because a part of the plate will be covered by air and not water, but you have chances of running the pump dry more often than it should be ! In time that can lead to a decrease in the water pump lifespan, and you will probaby end up killing it in a couple of years. I understand that this was kind of a hard build, the Terra not beig made for watercooling, however I would highly suggest you find another orientation fo that CPU cooler. Worst case scenario, buy a Dan A4 H2O case, that thing is barely any bigger than the Terra (10L vs 11L I think) and is made to properly support a 240mm AIO !

[@kuyans3889]

I'm glad someone mentioned this! Chris, definitely keep an eye on whether or not the cooler is operating properly as time progresses, if you keep this configuration. You don't want your CPU to run without cooling.

[@niccollsvideo]

Definitely appreciate the advice. I am 100 percent confident that this aio will get air bubbles in it. From time to time I’ll flip the case and dislodge but once air is in there, it’s in there. I’ll keep an eye on temps and an ear on gurgling noises.

[@chrissnyder4439]

The problem with MFT is that both Olympus and Panasonic seem to have forgotten that one of the reasons people prefer that mount is because of the compact nature of it. Unfortunately, they're focusing just on their larger bodies, and while yes, the lenses are still rather small, a newer GX9 or Pen-F wouldn't go unnoticed. I've been looking for something that size for travel and video work, so naturally I went Sony, despite having been a MFT shooter for the past few years.

[@CMDILL86]

I agree. I bought a GX85 this year because I had all the glass for it...and the Fuji X 100V made me curious about rangefinders.

[@chrissnyder4439]

@@CMDILL86 I bought the GX85 just a few months ago and that's what I traded for the Sony that just arrived today.

[@doublevgreen]

Also most of the lenses arent weather sealed so thats not at all up to all the other lens manufacturers

[@bastian.michel]

But Sony doesent have compact lenses for APS-C. Canon for example has a good 22mm f2 and great 32mm f1.4. The Sony APSC primes are just to big and many very old. I really tried tp buy into it, but kept my A7C because there is no really downsizing by switching to Sony APSC. And you are absolutely right, we need smaller mFT bodies with PDAF.

[@fred4859]

Speaking of the Pen F , why haven’t we seen a refresh of this specific camera ? Anyone in marketing think they know ?

[@karikaru]

The s5ii/x do have some underrated photography features that don't get enough credit. They gave us handheld high res (only one on FF?) which wasnt even promised, you can shoot 65:24 in camera, and you can create your own fuji'esque profiles via live LUT. Also little things like you can exposure bracket 7 images compared to 3 on the r6ii and a7iv. It makes an excellent landscape/city scape/architecture camera. For portrait, it keeps up with its peers for less money.

[@jameshenry6855]

Yeah I've used the S5IIX for photographing events

[@Kevon420]

Yup! The Nikon Zf is more fun and the R6II has better AF (and for me better 1st party lenses) but the S5II is simply fantastic top to bottom, I would recommend it to pretty much everyone getting into full frame.

[@jonccwong]

yes! no one talks about the XPan mode of the S5 and S5II/X - Unique composition for sure!

[@robert_may]

So far I've not figured out a way of doing 65:24 in combination with handheld high-res, which would be nice if it was possible 🤔 But otherwise agree, it's an excellent photo camera as well as video camera. Its only major downside compared to competitors is the slow mechanical shutter, as the sensor is too slow for electronic to be useful for action.

[@karikaru]

@@robert_may think it might not work in HHHR but you can use an overlay I believe

[@theoldironqueen8224]

For my taste, the S5II is really everything I wanted in a camera, mainly do stills and having the video features is a bonus since I use it for webcam use a ton. And the 96mp mode is basically the best implementation I have seen so far. Idk, the S5II for me is the goat of the year, especially for the price.

[@danfarmer_photo]

You can tell Jordan is the “video guy” with that lighting set up 👌

[@guyjordan8201]

Pentax might be the best platform for using legacy glass. They have a very easy system for selecting the focal length of a manual lens so that their ibis can function properly. That said, I use an old an A7R2 with a lot of Pentax and Minolta manual glass… It’s fun.

[@truthkeeperfilms]

Well done Nikon! The Expeed7 will definitely put them up there. Nikon leads the price-performance ratio with bodies/lenses. New bodies will boost Nikon

[@mikelobdell2666]

M4/3 has so many lenses that it is already well rounded. Would be nice to see their mid and upper tier super telephoto zooms that are on their lens road map though.

[@larrychicco1062]

I'd love a nice f4 tele Pro alright that isn't bonkers expensive.

[@CurrenSheldon]

Canon needs a $1000-1500, 450-550 gram set of f1.4 lenses... their f1.8/f2 lenses are cheap and plasticky and MEH and their f1.2 primes are insanely huge and expensive. Sony's f1.4 lens lineup is incredible, but Canon is making amazingly innovative zooms (28-70, 24-105 2.8, etc).

[@karikaru]

This is Canon's whole marketing strategy though. You get in buying affordable t_i's and 1.8stms and if you want to become a "serious" photographer you save your shekels for a year or two and drop it on a FF body and a 50 1.2 and hope you can land some gigs to make up for it. This is exactly why I left Canon for Lumix. With Lumix bodies and sigma/Lumix glass, they'll give you the working professional's body requirements and IQ at a much more approachable price for the entry to professional work tier.

[@CurrenSheldon]

@@karikaru Yes agreed. I LOVE Lumix and would go all-in on the L-Mount if there was one decent cinema camera (C70, FX6, C300 style) with the L-Mount.

[@adamwhittingham86]

So you can only make money with the most expensive lenses and bodies? Good to know. I was thinking of getting cheaper rf lenses but want to make money. Shame

[@MusabTahaTarik]

why yo say "MEH" for f/1.8s I have 50 f/1.8 rf with R10 and it's fantastic ;)

[@CurrenSheldon]

haha fair - it's a perfectly fine lens, but for manual focus video, it's not the most enjoyable to use. But still gives great results!@@MusabTahaTarik

[@andrewleno591]

Regarding your thoughts about Pentax K1-III and then it's monochrome version, yes I would also prefer this path... But it's my own personal opinion. Pentax asked their community what they wanted. 1 place by votes was Pentax K3-III Jet Black, - done. 2nd was Pentax K3-III monochrome - done. 3rd was astrophotography oriented camera with high sensitivity to Hydrogen emission nebulas. This is not done yet and no info when will be. And only info that they working on Pentax K1-III without any info when it will be released.

[@BrentODell]

The G9 ii is very exciting for me, a photographer who shoots mostly wildlife. I think the extra pixels and addition of phase-detect AF is very compelling.

[@ericaceous1652]

Agreed in terms of the camera for wildlife, they just need the lenses to back it up

[@BrentODell]

Aside from wanting more weather sealed prime options, I think micro four thirds has a really solid lens selection

[@ericaceous1652]

@@BrentODell there are quite a lot of lenses, but a section of them are older and perhaps slower/heavier than they need to be, and Panasonic lacks the performance telephoto now, having discontinued the 200 2.8.

[@BrentODell]

@@ericaceous1652 I didn't know they discontinued the 200/2.8! Hopefully the updates to the 100-400 and 35-100 will be the start of a broader refresh. As I said, I REALLY think at least basic weather resistance is a must, especially for the higher end lenses.

[@Artyomthewalrus]

IMO, this was one of the most exciting years for MFTs. That 90mm macro is a phenomenal lens. 2x magnification with good AF on macro on a small sensor? There is likely not a single other out of the box camera system that is remotely comparable in handheld super macro capacities. You can get similar results through other systems, but always requiring big work arounds or the loss of important features like good autofocus. And in camera photo stacking? Gosh golly. That being said. The lack of other news in the system makes me nervous. I've been concerned about it eventually dying for a while.

[@thrallingFRglory]

Been a lifelong MFT user and I agree with your assessment. I'd give them a solid D-, not because they didn't release too many products this year but because they have been absent from the media for far too long. I understand that OM system doesn't have the resources to go up against the big 3 but atleast give us updates about future development. Even a lens roadmap would be nice. And don't give me the spiel about the two zooms on there. Everything on the current roadmap has been there since Olympus and OM have yet to put out something new. I desperately wish to gift myself a 300 f4 this year but I will not do so unless OM shows some commitment to furthering the format.

[@busydadscooking001]

I fear its mostly just Lumix in this game going forward. Despite that, I plan to switch my main body from gx85 to Olympus.

[@ugetsu2093]

Nice to see you guys are back at work while we’re in the middle of the summer holidays. Good for me because I can watch you since I am stuck inside with the new COVID version. No more beach until next week.

[@PhotoBug3042]

I would have allowed the A+ for Nikon!

[@TheApostateTapir]

The break in the PetaPixel Podcast was the longest period of my life

[@bastian.michel]

Haha, great 😁

[@frankfeng2701]

Highlight products from each camera/lens brand (my vote): Nikon: Z8, Zf, Z 24 DX, Z 180-600 Canon: R8, RF 28, RF 10-20, RF 24-105 2.8 Sony: a6700, 20-70 G Panasonic: S5iix, G9ii, 100 Macro Fujifilm: GFX100ii Blackmagic: BMCC 6K Tamron: 17-50, 70-180 G2 Sigma: 10-18 DC, 14 DN

[@senorchivo90]

Regarding the Mini-ITX build, it might be too late now, but the Cooler Master NR200 fits an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm AIO on the side panel and isn't much larger than the Fractal. Other AIOs might work, but it depends on the hose and pump clearance. The Freezer II is a tight squeeze, but no modding is necessary and the hoses don't kink.

[@badshoes]

Brings me so much joy gunpla has been in so many episodes lately haha. Glad you guys are back, enjoyed the episode! Also looking forward to Panasonic news this year!

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

As a Nikon user, I agree with Jordan on the A- camera grade for Nikon. Hopefully they answer with what he suggested in the first half of 2024: Z6III is a must, Z5II would be nice, and at least one APS-C body. It would be interesting if they did a Z70, lining up with the D7*00 series which were so successful.

[@corykphotography]

I've shot macro with the M.Zuiko 30 and 60mm macro lenses and absolutely loved them!

[@the_wiki9408]

We had Tercel in the USA, he's just too young. They were 80s and early 90s. I definitely saw a lot at the campus parking lot!

[@NeilMcAliece]

In relation to bird and wildlife photography and focus issues. One critical thing to remember with long focal lengths is the impact of atmosphere (moisture, dust etc). Long focal lengths are great for creatures that don't want to be close to you, but depending on the atmospheric conditions of the day, the limit for really sharp images might only be 30m/100ft. One way to test this if you have an image that looks soft is to use the same gear with the same settings on a detailed subject closer to you. If it's consistently tack sharp, then it's likely that the problem was the amount of atmosphere between you and the subject and switching gear won't have helped.

[@projectaroid]

Glad to see the podcast has restarted for 2024.

[@POVwithRC]

Happy 2024. I still wanna know who did you intro music and pixel art because they both slap.

[@smithcon]

The Sigma MC-11 adapter works really well with full AF functionaliy when mounting Canon EF and EF-S lenses on Sony E-mount. I used it for years until I upgraded to all Sony native glass. It often goes on sale for 150 $US.

[@daustonian9331]

Sony releases a lot and supports little - keep spending on new with me is the Sony mantra. Nikon released fewer, but also supported and updated their flagship and beyond. I bought into Nikon and picked up a Megadap adapter to use all my Sony glass at full speed! Can we add a portion of the grade for support next year?

[@clintjohnson5914]

Great "Reality Check" video guys.. As much as I love my MFT stuff... It is what it is...CHRIS...Since you are bold enough to do B&W specific shoots.. would you slip Jordan some NyQuil and grab the G9II and do a video featuring that Leica Monochrome mode?? That would be very informative .. no one has really hit that in any sort of detailed way.. but I remember watching the release videos and watching everybody's ears perk up when they mentioned it... Thanks.. and Happy New Year to the PetaPixel gang..

[@Jamm1eone]

Dear Jordan, I use a number of vintage lenses on my Fuji x-s10 and they work great with adapters and focus peaking. Especially as they are nice and lightweight in my opinion they make more sense on aps-c bodies instead of full frame, and as mentioned you don’t have to worry about corner sharpness on the lens itself. My personal favourite is my 50mm 1.7 Konica hexanon tack sharp and lovely bokeh and cost me under $100. I always recommend vintage glass to people if they want to try new focal lengths but can’t afford new af glass. Just my two cents though. Love your work as always though 😊

[@robertowen-jones443]

Welcome back and here is to a great 2024

[@seantomlinson3320]

I love the podcast. Three friends chatting makes for a fun listen.

[@-grey]

Fujifilm needs more cameras that suit the design philosophy of crop sensor focus. Give us our poor man's Leica back. I actually left the brand this year because my X camera and they don't have anything really smaller than the a7CII or significantly lighter than the R8 - two full frame cameras. They haven't done much in terms of improving their AF or IBIS either. Leaving them at the back of the pack behind Panasonic. Plus, they failed to keep upto demand on their popular models, while their bigger sports and wildlife bodies sat on shelves. They seem to be floundering and making mild incremental improvements while trying to go in 5 different directions at once. Hopefully this year they give us something smaller and lighter than the a7CII, and something for the compact prime shooters too, maybe a nice Weather sealed mark II for the 18f2 pancake?

[@benjhaisch]

Does Sony own a significant portion of Tamron? That’s what I’ve always heard. Would make sense then that they’d not be in the L-mount alliance if so

[@canucklehead28]

My most anticipated Podcast. Great work!

[@PeteC62]

Jordan, you can't really say that a 2:1 macro on MFT is equivalent to a 4:1 on a full frame without some important qualification. The macro ratio is simply saying that the image on the sensor is twice the actual size of the subject. It has nothing to do with sensor sizes. I guess you're saying that to fill the frame with the same subject on each system you'd need a 2:1 and 4:1 lens respectively, but that totally ignores the pixel densities of the sensors. The MFT-sized center of Sony A7R5 is 15M pixels, as opposed to the 20M pixels of a typical MFT sensor. That's nothing like a 2x advantage for the MFT body, more like a 33% advantage, i.e. equivalent to a 2.7:1 macro on the Sony. You'd have to qualify your statement with "for the same pixel-count sensors" to be accurate. ETA Actually it's even less of an advantage than that. The "macro ratio" advantage is actually the square root of the pixel count advantage, so the 2x macro on an MFT would be closer to equivalent to a 2.3x macro on an A7R5.

[@nthc_iq8x374]

It appears they endorse the macro lens and not afraid of losing their credibility. I think we can expect a comparison once the modern macro lens are available for a shootout.

[@juliette-mansour]

Wow, I'm from the States and I DO remember the Toyota Tercel. Jaron, you youngster... you're making me feel old!

[@busydadscooking001]

Agree MFT needs more excitement! To survive.. Surprising you didn't grade Pentaxs surprisingly productive year. Two lenses of the same length, just different in coating - plus a few limited ones that bundle seasonal firmware or something iirc? And a redesigned camera just because they ran out of some components? Pentax is not acting like a brand that expects to disappear.

[@CamAttreePhoto]

Jordan, Ready Player One is a standout 4K disc, especially when you get your audio sorted. Dolby Atmos is a must!

[@careywest]

The biggest tip I can give for extreme macro like this is to not waste money on an AF lens. Get a manual focus lens like a laowa. You can't rely on AF when shooting this stuff, no matter how good your camera's AF is. The best way to do it is to leave the focus where you want it, then move your whole body back and forth to achieve sharp focus.

[@lajibe3716]

Hi there ! that would be lovely if someday you speak a little about pixii cameras, the only french camera manufacturer ! :) Where would you put it in your ranking list ? cheers

[@AudioMemo]

I also picked up 4k Blu-Ray (probably the exact same one you bought) and several 4k blu-rays over the holidays. I love it. I've been buying movies digitally for about a decade now but I'm thinking I'm going to end up repurchasing everything physically.

[@theHomer85]

Is it a 4K HDR10+ one? Can you share the model?

[@Chhuoey]

Canon not doing too well in the lens market is where they should be dinged pretty heavily. I agree controlled your quality with no 3rd party lenses can be a good strategy so nobody gets burned, but things are just coming out too slow for how compelling their cameras are. They are delivering great value in their bodies, and the APS-C ones are quite nice for the price, but there is no APS-C midrange zoom. My friend has an R10 and is looking at a 24-70 F2.8L (which is a phenomenal lens), which I think is absolutely ridiculous for a sub $1k APS-C body. My sony and fujifilm midrange crop sensor cameras have access to the Sigma and Tamron Midrange zooms (~$500) and that's where most people who don't do pro photography should be. The best entry at the moment is a 24-105 f4 and on crop sensor that is just not good

[@elzafir]

I think that's the main problem with a crop sensor sharing mount with full frame: the crop sensor lens will always be lacking in both quantity and quality. The dogma used to be to buy a cheap crop sensor body and full frame lens, so when they upgrade to full frame in the future, they can still use the lens. But it will never happen. When they upgrade to FF, they'd buy new FF lenses too lmao. This is why an exclusive crop sensor system like the X and M43 have a place in the industry: you get a lot of body choices and a lot of lens choice, so much so that you won't need a full frame camera unless for the most extreme situations.

[@giovannigio6217]

very good intro song. really appreciated. is it custom made or is it available for purchase somewhere? cheers

[@alexeipg]

Why is the a7cii a departure from the a6xxx-style bodies? Just the different color option?

[@rockatanescu]

I am an enthusiastic amateur photographer currently on the MFT system. I don't get paid for any of my photographs, but I do have a decent budget and the very quiet 2023 for the MFT system made me look elsewhere. I would have normally looked at Canon or Sony, however Canon's lens lineup is very weird (either too expensive or feeling very cheap) and Sony bodies are simply too small for my hands (especially if you pair them with a 70-200 f/2.8 or a bigger telephoto lens). I've started looking at Nikon and the Z8 is very interesting (my first SLR was a D40 and I've always lusted for the D8xx series of cameras from Nikon until I switched to mirrorless) and the lens lineup is very, very appealing so I'm seriously considering a switch back to Nikon later this year. I know the G9 II is not in the same price bracket as the Z8, but I want to upgrade my camera and also get a good 85mm lens for portraits. I can buy the G9 II and the 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron for roughly $3600 or I can get the Z8 and the 85mm f/1.8 S for $4600 and I'd argue the difference between the G9 II and the Z8 is much bigger than $1000. I'm also looking at a long telephoto and Panasonic has the newly released 100-400mm f/4-6.3 priced just $100 cheaper than the Nikon 180-600mm f/5.6-6.3, which is shorter, but if you put it on the Z8 you can crop quite significantly. A year or two ago I was a bit concerned that Nikon was close to bankruptcy, but now I am impressed with how well they have executed their plan and how appealing they must be for enthusiastic amateurs like myself.

[@ArcticRc]

What stream software do you use? Im looking for one to include 2 extra like here.

[@94Ninsound94]

Fujifilm also had the XF 8mm 3.5 and the new XF 30mm 2.8 macro, not only GF lenses. PS : what’s the reference of that Panasonic region free BD-R player Jordan was talking about?

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

I don't know how you discuss Canon lenses without mentioning the RF 200-800, which is killing it among wildlife shooters. They do need mid-range lenses or third party glass, which it looks at least the latter is finally coming this year. 2024 should be interesting. The R1, R5 II, Z6 III, Z7 III. Who knows what Sony and Fuji will do. Will Lumix give us a GH-7 with PDAF?

[@AgnostosGnostos]

All micro 4/3 cameraa deliver 12bit raw photos instead of the 14bit raw by sony nikon canon fujifilm mrrorless cameras. That is important for the control of highlights and shados during raw processing. Canon is still the best camera and lens mamufacturer but prevents the use of third party more affordable autofocus lense like sigma and tamron. That ia the main reason i prefer Sony.

[@BobK58]

I dream about Pentax.

[@bsum8715]

The podcast has been so enjoyable as it has always been. Can you guys share your thoughts on dji, insta360 and GoPro? 2023 seems to be the year which these companies started to be able to launch products that are viable alternatives to vlogging cameras by traditional camera makers. P.S. Nice gunpla build Jaron. Cosmic Era is my favourite timeline in the Gundam franchise and I hope the upcoming movie would not ruin it.

[@Herkulez1981]

I dont know much about dji:s action cameras but more about drones . Their white balance and colors are really good they even get out more dynanic range from their inspire 3 then sony a1 get from the same sensor . So they know how to ”tune” a camera

[@HR-wd6cw]

The Z8 is actually quite surprising to say the least... gving the highest-level pro-sumer body almost the same featureset of the more expensive pro-level body. This isn't something that too many cameras companies do (and the differences are rather minor overall but at a decent price difference). I was sort of expecting a bit more closer to a Z7 II experience but with perhaps improved AF (probably something like what the Z7 III will actually by) and not really a smaller sibling to the Z9. So I think Nikon did a good job there. The Zf... I don't know. It checked some boxes for some people (those who wanted a Zfc but didn't like the fact it was APSC and lacked IBIS perhaps). So they fulfilled that in a way, but I think they should have really released a Z6 III first (in 2023) and then postponed the Zf to 2024. And while the Z6 III may be very similar to the Zf in terms of performance and specs, I think more people were asking for the Zf but in a Z6 II body (thus a Z6 III) and so I think Nikon could have captured more sales in 2023 and now if they had reversed the two and did the Z6 III FIRST and then a Zf. My guess is the audience that was asking for a Zf was probably much smaller than those asking for a Z6 III, which was quite a few from what I gather. And especailly after the Z8 release, a Z6 III I feel would have made a little more sense.

[@timlaunyc]

Definitely noticed that SSF build. For sound, I am looking to see how the Samsung HW-Q990D will behave.

[@afblrl]

Excited that fans of the show are PP People

[@awksedgreep]

OM System is oddly quiet lately. I expect an L-Mount release next year. Perhaps a throwback, but functional high end FF camera.

[@ursthomann3463]

Love the PP podcast and watch all of Chris‘s and Jordan‘s reviews, even those that are not relevant to me. I have been a analogue shooter in my youth, using the Minolta Dynax 8000i with some cheap kit glass before switching to digital in 2006 when bought the original Canon 5D. I stuck with that until 2017 which is when I replaced it with the 5D iv. Glasswise the EF 24-70 f2.8L, 70-200 f2.8L ii, and the 100-400 f4.5-5.6L II pretty much covered all I needed. Finally, in 2022 I called it a day for DSLR and bought an R5. I did replace the original EF 24-70 with the RF 24-70 but adapt the other 2 EF lenses because I am no fan of the external zoom of the RF 70-200 f2.8L and despite all the good reviews of the 100-500 I am not into it enough yet to replace my EF 100-400. Sorry for the long intro, I am coming to the point now: on the R5, the early year rumours about firmware updates were so promising but what came out was in fact very disappointing. We still have that stupid recording limit and even though the auto focus of the R5 is probably still state of the art, some continuous improvement would not hurt. On the glass side I am dreaming of an RF 600 f5.6 DO with built in 1.4 extender. At the long end it seems Canon will have a lot of catch up to do in 2024 to keep up with Nikon and Sony. Over all, for me and my photography, Canon did not fair too well in 2023. Let’s see if they do better in 2024.

[@AnotherOtherMan-alive]

(you can drop the alive bit on the username, long story short lost the original account with that name): The reason people don't go for the 120 CLC (closed loop coolers) is due to the same relative performance as a decent tower cooler when fully saturated with heat. Noise reduction is one of the main benefits of a CLC if that's what you're going for. As for the adaptors, I'd love to see how the modded KAF to E mount adaptor from Monster Adaptors performs and even how much performance the glass that Pentax has is left on the table when not bottle necked by the sensor/body for photo and video respectively (see if you can get the A7RV or the A9 III for those tests). Lastly, would love to see more manufacturers get their camera bodies and lenses ipx rated, in particular the full-frame bodies. Sure the lighter telephoto glass for om system is nice but when doing street and photojournalism in adverse environment the field of view benefit that full frame has despite the increased body size is something that can be worth it (the om cameras withstanding the fine dust may or may not withstand some of the CS gas types out there for example)

[@bzomeful]

Please, please try to reconfigure the radiator. There's a good chance the pump will break a lot sooner than it's rated life span since all the air bubbles will eventually end up in the block

[@GODSPEEDseven]

There is nothing confusing about the K3 III Monochrome! Pentax surveyed its own userbase, and that was one of the most voted 'want' by Pentax users. I think the first choice was like a japanese-market colour variant of the K-3 III (which they also gave their users). But they care more for what their users want, and within the Pentax community, crop K-3 III is probably way more used than a FF K-1 II.

[@elzafir]

What L Mount needs is more body options. Something sub-$1500. Will OM System ever join the Alliance?

[@theoldironqueen8224]

To be fair, the S5II with cashback (and if you sold the kit lense) was around 1350€ at the end of last year.

[@elzafir]

@@theoldironqueen8224 unfortunately cashback is region dependent. There are people who still buy the A7 II with kit lens for $1000 in 2024, and if Lumix can make a viable alternative, they will swipe the floor on entry level full frame market. A Lumix S7 perhaps?

[@charliipresley]

A+ for “OM System” of course 😂😂😂

[@klausrodrigues13]

Still waiting for the fuji xs20 vs sony a6700, great videos btw really enjoy every video

[@nvwolfephotography]

Jaws in 4k is amazing, its a must have.

[@ChadSchrandt]

Interstellar is great on 4k HDR. Some of my favorite discs that I own Are 1917 and Blade Runner 2049. Both totally worth owning on 4k HDR because they look absolutely brilliant.

[@PetaPixel]

Hilarious, those are the three discs Chris gave me for Christmas! -Jordan

[@ChadSchrandt]

@@PetaPixel haha that’s amazing. Chris has fantastic taste!

[@niccollsvideo]

Yes!!!

[@samuelklusmeyer6]

The grade you gave Canon is the exact reason why I left their system in the first place. They never seem to have any gear with desirable features - beyond 1-2 bodies - at a price point that's wasn't in the very top end.

[@CINENIMUS]

You guys are forgetting ZVE1 with a cage becomes an FX3 for a fraction of the cost. Anyone shooting video on FX3 and A7SIII raving about the ZVE1. If anything it should be awarded for being the best budget video camera of the year. 60 fps all - i….. 4:2:2 10 bit… 120fps 4k… no crop, all AI features and best in class AF and all in a super gimbal friendly body 🤯🤯🤯 as a tool its an absolute winner.

[@Wildridefilms]

4k 120p does have a crop. The only major problems with that camera are overheating and single card slot. For a video camera, it should be a lot more resistant to overheating.

[@bobcunningham9469]

I have been a Canon shooter since the 1970s, which speaks a lot about my brand loyalty. I am, however, considering switching. I am getting on in years, and heavy gear isn't for me any more, so I am interested more in apsc or m43, and currently use a Rebel SL2. I appreciate that Canon have released several r-mount apsc bodies, but only one with IBIS, which I am finding I need as well. Regrettably, I suppose, I also invested a bit into the now defunct M mount by Canon, which I still think is wonderful. While I appreciate that I can use FF lenses on apsc, I don't see the point. The fact that Canon hasn't produced even the equivalent of the M22mm or the M32mm lenses for apsc, concerns me to the point that I don't want to get stuck once again with an overlooked system. Sorry to leave, but Canon has not, and I doubt will, give me what I need.

[@MusabTahaTarik]

maybe it's time to move on to ff, r6m2?

[@chris-nj3vg]

Sony E-Mount is probably best when it comes to lightweight lenses. Buy a (used) Sony A7C.

[@kaneclements7761]

I used to shoot Canon. I now shoot Fuji. Great range of lenses inc. loads of 3rd party. Weight savings oh yes. Get an X-T5 and for general use a Tamron 17-70 f2.8 and the Fuji 70-300 and you will be set for loads of use cases.

[@tmartin6717]

FYI, this podcast is missing from Apple Podcasts.

[@12symmo]

Not sure about Nikon to Sony, but I’ve had some luck using the sigma adapter for EF to e-mount. Most of the lenses af works (except on my favourite 300mm f/4 😢), it just sometimes only works with stills and not video. Using eye af it’s mostly still quite usable for moving pets, albeit in lower light it struggles a bit. Agree with Sony for adapting Minolta, A74IV IBIS and focus peaking / magnification is great, so much more usable than my EOS R. Lots of ppl use m43, and I don’t mind that, depending on what focal length you’re after.

[@zegzbrutal]

90s EF is terrible with MC-11, even with a1 behind. Just get R6/R6ii/R7/R5/R8. It's so much better than R

[@12symmo]

@@zegzbrutal I have an EOS R too, I use that if I need af on the 300mm f/4 but have found the other EF lenses more than usable on the A7R4 for my needs.

[@DavidGBlair]

I want an rx100viii. What has happened to that line?

[@charlie_blevins]

I think you guys forgot fujifilm released the 8mm lens with the xs20 😁

[@AbdonPhirathon]

Using 35mm lenses on crop sensors is like using a magnifying glass on your lens. If the lens already had imperfections to begin with, crop sensors will only enhance them. It gets worse the smaller the sensor is. Not to mention that using crop sensor cameras of 20MP or higher will deliver soft images unless you are using the best of the best vintage lenses like Leica or Zeiss. I agree with Jordan, use the lens for the format it was intended for.

[@JoeSzilagy]

I also have a 4K Blu-ray player, a Sony. Also a Sony multi-region Blu-ray player for great movies you can't necessarily get here in Canada,-at least not cheaply like on the Eureka, BFI, and other labels from the UK, Germany, etc. Great!

[@bladerealm124]

Can you do an updated wildlife system video comparing Sony, Canon, and Nikon? If money were no object ($20,000+). The R5 still has amazing eye-AF but my understanding is Nikon has caught up with the Z9 update. Sony A1 remains excellent overall but lacks some of the newer AI AF. Sony's lens lineup is great for their "compact" primes like the 600mm f4 and 300mm f2.8. Canon has some unique lenses like the 100-300mm f2.8 that nobody else offers and potentially an upcoming 200-500mm f4 but their large primes are disappointing, basically just EF lenses with an adapter slapped on (RF 600mm f4). Nikon has probably the best lens lineup with the 600mm f6.3 PF, 800mm f6.3 PF, and 600mm f4 TC. What full-frame wildlife system would you invest in in the $15,000-$30,000 range?

[@jaimeduncan6167]

I hope the person who ask about adapted glass reads this or sees Matt Granger's actual tests. If you are using the Z8 or the Z9 adapted glass will work wonderfully, often better than in a D800 or D750 but it won't work as well as native with features like eye AF. But please see Matt's test or you are going to fail following PetaPixel comments because they have like 4 years of not testing the adapter, and back then Nikon AF was deficient in general. The Zf appears to be handling G and E AF lenses well, but I have not tested it with action yet.

[@thejordanbellinger]

Regarding BW…. My Nikon D3 has the best looking BW conversion of any camera I’ve owned. I currently have the Alpha 1 and A7RIII and they aren’t even close.

[@arctixilva1620]

A hobbyist with R8 and 24-105 F4L. Wish more midrange but great performing RF lenses. But to Chris' point, I should be happy with 24-205. LOL!

[@dccoletrain]

I think Fuji is going to release a lot more this year. The X100VI soon

[@mikegustafson6679]

BIG PP! The best.

[@therevprogamers]

Does anyone have any idea if Nikon will be making Nikon Z5 ii?

[@Theirrelephant]

Chris and Jordan! I’ve never used a micro 4/3 and I live in Calgary. How bout we do a photo walk and I’ll temporarily trade you for my GFX100s + 80mmf1.7?

[@WheelsAndHelmets]

YESSSSS 4k dvd physical media. You and me both. Sadly we're digging it at a time they're becoming harder to find in stores like best buy. Interstellar is great, careful with the lfe channel on that one!

[@Mamotreco]

Love that intro animation

[@mitchellwnorowski6747]

How about doing some vintage reviews, maybe ccd cameras

[@rtyler1869]

Those complaining about the lack of an R1 from canon last year forgot that most top line generation cameras are released every 4 years for the Olympics - biggest sporting event in the World

[@TerryMcKennaFineArt]

We in the US certainly got Tercels till 1998. I owned 2. Great low prices car.

[@mikeshwarts9069]

Not camera related, but film related. Is the image Chris' shirt from an Akira Kurosawa film?

[@pxperimenter]

Why no mention of the DJI Ronin 4D with L-Mount in the L-Mount section? (All the more, since it was reviewed by Jordan a couple of days ago)? Why no mention of the spectacular Viltrox 27mm/1.2 in the Fuji section? - And: Tamron is unlikely to ever produce L-Mount lenses because Sony is a major shareholder of that company.

[@PetaPixel]

The DJI Ronin 4D doesn't have an L-Mount, it uses DJI's DL mount, and can accept E, PL and M Mount adaptors.

[@pxperimenter]

@@PetaPixel DJI's website says that the Ronin 4D 8K offers L-Mount as an option (they call it "Leica L").

[@manilamartin1001]

That gundam and computer build let me know this is my brotherhood. Also, The Killer, fantastic movie. Get the Sony A-9 sound system, Jordan.

[@kamilpotato3764]

Would be nice to see Viltrox and Tamron on L mount.

[@stevenblackwood6097]

You guys forgot the big photo event of 2024: the Olympics. So I think we will have something big from Nikon (maybe a sports version of the Z9) and Canon ( finally the R1).

[@ghbdtnbytn]

We need HDR videos!!) Try to make one just for test

[@angeloplayforone]

And Sony Burano?

[@alen2937]

Somebody got a nice itx setup... awesome.

[@jamesbarron5590]

We did have tercels in the US.

[@weisskm]

Ricoh/Pentax are not mentioned - perhaps because they are so small or haven't introduced new stuff but there is a reasonable set of users even if it isn't their primary camera.

[@jeejbeej]

They did mention Pentax briefly. Ricoh as a brand wasn't mentioned, but I dont think they released anything last year.

[@1fareast14]

45:13 I've sold mist of my mft gear, because the properly small stuff is old. Why imitate ff with that system?

[@alen2937]

BTW that gundam is awesome.

[@PetaPixel]

Thank you! -Jaron

[@alen2937]

Hey, would you kindly say in which order to watch gundam in order to reach the gundam unicorn from a previous podcast? I only have watched gundam wing... maybe to much to ask but since you already went all the way it would be awesome. Thanks in advance. @@PetaPixel

[@CS90]

28mm f2.8 shootout video?

[@Nathan.1882]

I watched until you gave canon a C. Its insane that they released a 100-300 f2.8 , 24-120 f2.8 and 10-20 f4 and got a C.