Graham Stephan Confronts Hasan On Socialist Grift! Destiny Gets TRIGGERED...

Confronting Hasan Piker on Socialist Grift, Hypocrisy, and How “The Top 1%” Keeps You Poor!
• Confronting Hasan Pike...
Date: 14 Apr, 2024
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[@destiny]

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[@mymilena7]

Cá ib😊

[@adg9042]

they should have a twerk off, with me being the judge

[@LethallyReptarded]

Nukes

[@richboii6597]

With an onslaught of memes

[@adg9042]

@@howdareyou41 Iranian units deploy agent P1KER to Tel Aviv, estimated casualties; 600

[@genovaz]

The beauty of capitalism is that you can literally get rich complaining about capitalism.

[@CMHC]

nice

[@roymarshall_]

It's also extremely aggravating to have the people who benefit from capitalism the most performatively advocate for a different system that would make us all poorer and more miserable and would disproportionately effect people who don't have 3 million dollar houses.

[@ezo2161]

A bit like how liberalism allows illiberal larpers to complain about the evils of liberalism while reaping the benefits it offers

[@solanumlycopersicum5594]

Same as how in a western liberal society you can make a living off saying that you are not allowed to say what you are saying.

[@bazooka712]

Socialism is when everyone wears diapers 😳

[@rleeg6744]

Hasan is like a megachurch preacher when asked about his lifestyle vs the message he preaches while asking for donations.

[@manvyduce1212]

YES

[@0fficerpimp]

The irony of this comment is that Hasan's audience probably views megachurches with disgust and moral hypocrisy but are blinded that they are essentially in the same reletionship with Hasan but with a different coat of paint. At the end of the day *God/Socialism says says its good for me to have all this wealth*

[@Smithistory]

Because politics is the new religion.

[@User71956]

@@Smithistory I'd say they're almost the same lol I just got into a very heated argument with my mom when I told her I'm probably going to vote for Trump and she's a hardcore Democrat and we went back and forth on various issues. "Never talk about politics or religion with friends or family" is timeless advice for a reason.

[@AnthonyCheeseborough]

You know this is gonna be a softball interview for the simple fact that Hasan would never agree to an interview where he's being challenged.

[@bobjenkins4925]

You just know there's some emails hidden somewhere either from him or from his intern basically testing the waters to make sure it's not going to be any sort of smoke

[@user-mi9ge5zo3j]

Exactly and all of them acting like he's some kind of debater who will take these people on. It's hilarious. Both their interviews with Hamasabi have been hilarious. And so disgustingly cringe

[@kingsmokee8136]

They didn’t include destiny in the tierlist at the end but had non political streamers like pokimane, valkyrae, mizkif,xqc 😂

[@WaffleStomper69]

​@@user-mi9ge5zo3j what do you mean? He built online politics streaming and the debate space. Be paved his own way

[@bencheevers6693]

I'm waiting for some semi-intelligent socialist who's sick of his shit to just trick him because he's so damn dumb. That would be great content

[@KeyJOSH8]

"I can buy expensive things from time to time" - Socialist who owns 3 million dollar house

[@rmercedes971]

Even with the $3 Mil. House, his lifestyle would still be consistent with his views if EVERYONE in his production team was receiving the same income as him and could afford a 3million dollar house as well. But doubt this is the case

[@jackshepherd93]

@@rmercedes971didn’t he not pay someone and said Well I bought you a camera, or was that another champagne socialist

[@promethiac2641]

I like the idea of lifting up the ground floor. Just because we value "sky is the limit" doesn't mean the bottom needs to be a satire of serfdom as a bootstrap model.

[@Boanerpains]

He also has a gucci luggage set that costs over 10k lol.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@rmercedes971 To be clear, they don't all need to make the same income as him. They would just need the ability to vote on and agree on their pay as having an ownership share. Worker cooperatives still generally have disparities in pay between management, floor staff, and custodial/backroom staff. It is just that they tend to be greatly reduced (often times with wage caps like "the CEO cannot earn any more than 24x the lowest paid employee's salary" to incentivize improving the wages at the lowest level as well).

[@FreedomIsEssential]

I got permabanned from Hasan's chat for complimenting him for being a successful entrepreneur, multimillionaire, and irrefutable proof that the American dream is alive and well. You'd think I'd insulted the guy.

[@marxizim]

no way 💀💀💀

[@FreedomIsEssential]

@@marxizim 100% he even denied my unban request weeks later

[@marxizim]

@@FreedomIsEssentialthat’s outrageous, i commented this before somewhere but he banned me during his react stream of the norman finkelstein x destiny debate. all i said was “you’re misrepresenting destinys argument” which he quite literally was. was permabanned not even 30 seconds after sending it. i was a 15 month subscriber in the past too which is crazy

[@jumpergamer1913]

@@marxizim Well that's how evey communist structure of power ever worked, dissenters get eliminated on the tiniest real or perceived disagreement, critique, threat, etc. Mostly on the false premisse that the dissenters are evil and wants to betray the efforts of the one ( and only true and perfect) communist power that only has the best of intentions by implementing their version of communism that will save the people.

[@gilbertwilson9093]

​@marxizim Well there is your problem, you subbed to Hasan. You're dumber than him 😂.

[@alexmercer4642]

"This isn't even champagne socialism, it's lead paint socialism." 💀

[@CrazyGiaky]

>Watch video >Go to comment section >Every comment: "(describes what person did) *skull emoji*" Fucking NPCs, I swear...

[@alexmercer4642]

@@CrazyGiaky You don't quote funny lines from media?

[@asmbeats5369]

​@@CrazyGiaky God forbid someone quotes their favorite part. It's also ironic you are calling other people NPCs while being in the same comment section as everyone else, hop off your high horse, you're nothing special.

[@BestMeme2031]

⁠@@CrazyGiakyTechnically he’s not describing what he’s doing, he’s quoting what Destiny said ☝️🤓

[@gomikuzu4545]

@@CrazyGiakygod ur so hecking special and unique 😩

[@williebsunshine]

"Down Sydrome socialism" Lmfao

[@ArchangelPhenoix]

True Down Sydrome Socialism has never been tried

[@mammy24]

The real TDS. True Downsyndrome Socialism. We found it. It is real. Had nothing to do with trump, and everything to do with Hamasanabi!

[@666MaRius9991]

​@@ArchangelPhenoix We can make a religion out of this☝🤓

[@Kyotosomo]

Pretty sure that's all socialism

[@Narcissistic_Penguin]

I wish he'd not said that; Destiny can get funny dunks without the ableism.

[@PrettyTonyi]

We're so back bros. Destiny is interested in slapping Hasan around again, he got his swagger back. We are so back.

[@1SquidBoy]

it's election year baby

[@Yambag]

"Rent free" -🤓

[@ollejohansson6572]

Guess I got my swagger back - Jay-Z, otis

[@jad7932]

@@Yambagit’s socialism. Destiny has shared ownership. Hasan doesn’t have to pay rent. 🤓

[@tpolutts3309]

Can't wait til he talks about hasans unhinged gun tweet.

[@ethan22951]

"I can buy expensive things from time to time" Expensive house, expensive clothes, expensive jewelry, expensive car, expensive trips/vacations, expensive flights, expensive equipment, expensive dogs, expensive state. also born into a rich family btw

[@yonaoisme]

i heard the dog killed itself hearing this

[@VerGiLL1]

@@yonaoisme Damm bro, no need to bring the dog into this. The Dog is probably the purest thing in Hasan life.

[@kristianbasile7141]

Yeah so? It's not inconsistent with his views.

[@TheSethOlson]

@@kristianbasile7141it’s not inconsistent to push for the common man to be able to own his fair share of a company… and then not run his own life in that manner????

[@uhok6712]

Don’t forget the expensive sex he gets at brothels

[@jdjenk04]

The real socialism was the memes we made along the way.

[@blastamaster]

This is golden.

[@spaceghosttoast]

REDISTRIBUTE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION

[@jamesclarke2789]

@@spaceghosttoast ESTABLISH A DICTATORSHIP OF THE MEMEITARIAT

[@luddent7505]

Lame comment

[@jdjenk04]

@@luddent7505 Wahh

[@mannybarajas7458]

I like how Hasan doesn't even answer the first question. What is a Champaign Socialist? Hasan: Its a misconception about how Socialism equals poor.

[@xilofone8166]

isnt it champagne

[@anubis7457]

@@xilofone8166 No it's sham pain, because Hasan's sham Socialism causes me pain.

[@adrian-dragosbalaban6401]

​@@anubis7457 owned with redistribution and means of production

[@Silverwidows]

@@anubis7457 got em

[@Edward44509]

He did answer the question

[@YuriDSC]

Watching Destiny get triggered by Hasan's bullshit, gives me life.

[@garywebb2432]

Hasan advocating for Socialism yet not knowing what it actually means? HMMMMMM......

[@promethiac2641]

It means a Darwinian society would be a nightmare. Most of us wouldn't be talking.. we would be running or hiding lol

[@benefitsbrian9199]

@@promethiac2641 That's untrue.

[@promethiac2641]

@@benefitsbrian9199 Sure.. let's pretend the CEO is an Alpha lol

[@promethiac2641]

@@benefitsbrian9199 The reason why people have a hard time with economics is because it's not real.. it's just a game we made up like Dungeons and dragons because the barter system outlived its own value.

[@lighting7508]

I don’t think he actually knows much about socialism tbh but he DEFINITELY knows that what he said here, is literally just being a socdem☠️

[@gavinvales8928]

"Socialism is when you're social" - Hasan, probably

[@ezo2161]

We should brand this autistic online zoomer larping as "parasocialism"

[@LeviNotik]

Q: "Why don't you tell me what your greatest weaknesses are?" Michael Hasan Scott: "I work too hard, I care too much, and sometimes I can be too invested in my job."

[@Theonebeliever]

Ive seen the iced coffee hour before, but this was the first Caramel Macchiato Soy Frappuccino decaf hour.

[@HistoricaHungarica]

What is a macchiato frappuccino? I mean the recipe.

[@ritusharrmaa]

I love hasan hate content

[@areichental]

We feasting good tonight friend.

[@bingusenjoyer197]

destiny watches his wife get fucked and even asked hasan if he wanted to sleep with his ex wife in leaked dms. is this true? idk, i’m just repeating something i heard without fact checking it like destiny fans love to do all the time to him. y’all should be grateful, hasan hate content is keeping destiny’s child support payments coming in every month.

[@Gurb-cr3wl]

ritu beta use ur brain once in a while

[@Killord101Adam]

​@@bingusenjoyer197someone's mad

[@TerminallyLogikal]

@@bingusenjoyer197hahaha watching pseudo intellectuals fans like u breakdown is a favorite pastime of mine.

[@FriedLexman]

Hates unethical investment, runs ads every single hour. Who's investing in who?

[@ForTheHordeXIII]

And him literally hoarding wealth, instead of investing into actual co-ops and socialist investments.

[@bingusenjoyer197]

wow his fans are being super exploited by watching ads. something every twitch streamer is required to do under every contract. how fucking unethical. is this the level of straw grasping that cuckstiny fans are at now?

[@FriedLexman]

@@bingusenjoyer197 how about hasan saying debates are pointless while he screams at a clip chimp then debates a 16 year old on stream thinking its an easy W lmao keep sipping that genocidal coke my boy

[@Hrybread]

@@bingusenjoyer197 Socialists online: *you should fireb*mb walmart* Also Socialists online: "NOO you don't understand, he has to run ads because the contract he willingly signed with a corporation owned by a company that won't even let it's workers use the bathoom says he has too 😭😭😭😭😭😭"

[@SL1CEND1CEN]

​@@bingusenjoyer197 Good job debunking a yt commenter. Now get on topic and debunk destiny on his views made in this video of hasan.

[@DG3_DAVE]

I'm almost guaranteed that a Hasan parody character will exist in GTA6

[@mindblast7470]

God I hope this to be true so fucking badly, I hope there will be more than one character to parody the wave of champagne socialiats who's parents all have blue names on wikipedia.

[@vortex_1336]

Why in the world were they asking a guy with 20+ million dollars in the bank about how he's going to afford to retire? Like, he's a millionaire. He can retire right now and be fine the rest of his life.

[@emna773]

That also confused me. Idk I’m not rich so maybe I don’t know any better but it seems so pointless like wtf 😂

[@PuddingXXL]

Retiring and retiring while retaining your current lifestyle are two different things. That's why they're so baffled. If Hasan retires and lives the way he does now he'll go bankrupt within 5 years. That's why even as a rich person you need retirement unless you don't care about your life as a pensioner

[@colbyrob4814]

@@PuddingXXLwhat are even his expenses? I think he owns his car and house. He could probably live off the interest of his fortune which is like 130k/year

[@DevinMacGregor]

@@colbyrob4814 Yep, I contemplate what if I won the lotto. 20 mill in a money market account earning 5% is ~1,000,000 a year. EVEN if half were taken for taxes you still have 500K. $41,666 a month. That is $9,615 a week. I would live a very nice life AND I have a house and car paid off. I would drive up and down the coast every week. Have the best rig to play Rust, Valheim, etc on. Every year go to the real Oktoberfest in Munich for all three weeks. 28 grand I think would be the hotel cost for almost a month. I might get a deal for that long as well so it might be cheaper. I could still take two week trips to Japan, Ireland, Scotland, Italy etc. Go ride my bike up and down the beaches. Eat food and drinks beers on the beach, sit in the sand and get my toes wet cold pacific waters. I could do ALL of that and more with that money.

[@gpcarnage4881]

It is insane that he believes investing your money into new businesses is less ethical than spending your money on material items, which, by their own logic, was created through unethical means. Especially the clothing he bought, which was probably knit together by some child in a developing county. The fact that he has such a large following is depressing.

[@bc9554]

When he says “gifting money to parents and friends” he means investments. Don’t be fooled, this guy absolutely does not have several millions sitting in a chequing account.

[@gpcarnage4881]

@bc9554 Who are you responding to? Your post has nothing to do with what I stated.

[@bc9554]

@@gpcarnage4881 read it again and use your brain. I’m telling you he does not think investing money is unethical, he just has to spin that what he does is not investing

[@T0B1.]

These are the same guys that think Sweden has a socialist economic model 💀.

[@bc9554]

I can understand why now. They confused socialism for liberal capitalism

[@mcdick1621]

@@bc9554 this might come of as somewhat ignorant on my part but from what i can tell reading comments of us citizens on youtube, insta etc. they think of it in terms of like a bar thats 0% socialism up to 100% socialism and the higher the taxation is the more % socialism your country has. like apperantly for a lot of people over there thats how they view it alteast thats my impression. regarding this topic they just seem comically clueless

[@youtubeviewer8968]

⁠@@mcdick1621a lot of them do, but then again, most Americans know next to nothing about economics. On any topic even remotely political, so many people just refuse to admit when they aren’t sure or don’t know something

[@bingusenjoyer197]

hasan never said it does, hasan said that there’s currently no fully socialist or communist model in any country and that social safety nets does not equal socialism despite americans thinking europe is socialist.

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

​​@@mcdick1621isn't it fair to say there is varying degrees of socialism? I mean, every economy in the world is a mixed economy to some degree except like, North Korea. Even China has a stock market and private enterprise. The USA has social programs like welfare. It's not an all or nothing thing in practical terms, although there may be very obvious past examples of pure socialism/communism. No? Are you just criticizing the over simplistic analysis of taxation level = level of socialism or the notion that levels of socialism exist??

[@winstonwolf6791]

Rules for thee, but not for me. That has always been the socialist grift. No one even marginally successful actually wants to live by the rules they propose for others.

[@yonaoisme]

using vocal fry and changing your pitch on purpose should be a federal crime

[@mimilian5826]

hasan sitting on 50 million in his bank account thinking it's his moral duty to not do anything productive with it is such a funny image

[@rowan4327]

RoachdoggJr is such a funny image

[@Xairos84]

Peak socialist. He couldn't possibly use that money to improve the tools of worker co-ops..

[@bc9554]

@@Xairos84 that’s called investing and is capitalism

[@churchseraphim1380]

Right lol, Destiny nor the interviewers really went down this path but one of the criticisms i hear all the time from socialists is some form of "the rich just hoard money, the only thing they want to do is just accumulate money and watch the number grow" But...😊 this is pretty much exactly what Hasan is doing. At least a lot of rich people invest which can lead to some of that money going to worker co-ops or renewable energy companies or something.

[@zirkereuler5242]

@@churchseraphim1380 it's insane how often he mentions he doesn't want to invest because it would be considered "wealth accumulation" but doesn't realize how the money just sitting in the bank isn't that...

[@HT-jj5sx]

Watched the whole thing waiting for the "Confrontation"... owned by clickbait.

[@Sheristen]

😂💯

[@cjpack]

so they arent calling him pure evil? I dont know if i can watch this, its boring

[@imnackeredsirnackered948]

I want hasan to actually get into the nitty gritty of what he's talking about. All he ever does is say "we need autonomy of labor" " we need worker power" etc like he's parroting something he heard. I want him to get into the details on what that looks and explain to me the infrastructure and the systems that are needed for this to work. Can you imagine over 10,000 workers for a giant cooperation suddenly getting the right to have a say on how the company should work, the direction it should take? One that could cause massive infighting, Two it could take years to make a decision on something. Too many chiefs and not enough indians could be chaotic but maybe theres something I am missing and most socialists dont get into the details.

[@Yambag]

Ethan tried this with hasan in regard to policy/infrastructure and when Ethan would ask ONE follow up challenging him, hasan was just like "umm well we should try our very best". He had absolutely nothing.

[@allibaba711]

Yeah watch the socialism debate with Ethan on Leftovers. Ethan destroys him

[@odieses1]

This isnt a hasan thing. its a socialism thing. Socialists will never give actual policy positions. They will denounce anything real or concrete and say its not "real" socialism. Socialists only stick to vague ideals and talking points. They will never admit their idealogy which has been tried in various forms for over 100 years is a failure. you point to the soviets and its not real socialism, khmer rouge not real socialism, north korea not real socialism, venezuela not real socialism, cuba, china, etc etc etc. Socialism can never be defined because once it is people can spot the horror and problems with it.

[@manlylemon6269]

It’s such a ridiculous idea for all workers to have an equal say/stake in the company to make decisions. Anyone who spouts this nonsense has NEVER managed companies on an operations level. Imagine the Housekeeper making decisions on renovations for a hotel or any major decision that has fuck-all to do with housekeeping. It’s like the people who say “anyone could be a CEO” no, not everyone can be a CEO and most people have NO CLUE any part of running a business or making business decisions. They love to talk about how dumb most Americans are, now imagine all of those people having major stakes in companies. As a theory, socialism sounds so hunky-dory, but there is no way to actually execute it without revealing how ridiculous it is.

[@MikBak1814]

If you are genuinely interested, and I hope you are, look at Michael Albert's work. In fact, now I think of it, he even spoke to Destiny about this subject and got into a decent level of detail for a short YT video. It's easy to disregard ideas that challenge the current homeostasis, especially if you're doing well under said homeostasis, but you must realize that the same reactionary arguments have been made to practically every new idea ever conceived. Slavery was thought to be the only way by slave owners. Jim Crow's laws were considered practical until they weren't. Monarchies were the only conceivable form of governance until violent revolutions made way for republics, etc. etc. etc. Try to be open minded and actually read the work of people like Michael Albert, Yanis Varoufakis, Richard Wolff, Mark Blythe, David Harvey, et. al. The more you read, the less you'll be able to casually cast aside the ideas. Remember that Piker is, first and foremost, a figure of social media. The technical work, or "nitty gritty" as you state, is done by the sort of people I reference above. They are the people we should learn from, not Hasan Piker or even worse clowns like Destiny.

[@MADDcartman]

Socialism= trying to keep the money in the bank amount as low as possible by buying himself and his family luxury goods?? What a chad.

[@TheGuitarSauce]

Very interesting video Mr. Donatello

[@NPC-bs3pm]

I thought people were Don-alreadyo with those pun jokes

[@TheGuitarSauce]

@@NPC-bs3pm We never stop playing

[@asmbeats5369]

​@@NPC-bs3pmget out

[@TheGuitarSauce]

@@NPC-bs3pm da fuck?...

[@TuEIite]

By not investing, you're invested in cash. In USD. Your checking account funds the bank's loans.

[@damedusa5107]

Not necessarily, many loans like mortgages are new money, the banks create new money. It’s not a giant bank account that they give you abit of. Building societies in uk lend money that way, but the major banks have systems were it’s literally new money created into the system.

[@ImperatorSomnium]

Americans not understanding socialism is hilarious 😂

[@MikeLiteraus]

Well definitions keep changing that understanding.

[@ImperatorSomnium]

@@MikeLiteraus 🤣

[@mongomymango]

@@ImperatorSomnium really insightful response dude!

[@promethiac2641]

It's like how political parties and the upper class thrive i'm pretty sure... Oh Austerity as moral blackmail. Capitalism isn't even really Capitalism is it? lol

[@OliveOilFan]

Lol I read somewhere that euro left wing people are mad Americans made socialism, etc the way it is now and I don’t blame them

[@jb31969]

We were sooo close to a, "What a weaselly fucking liar dude" 🤣🤣🤣

[@radmax]

Hasan: “I’m advocating for a baseline of material equality, and for better worker protection and rights; less alienation from labor. To stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote…

[@tommyc5515]

Now let’s see Stephen’s card..

[@goldennas]

Just cool it with the antisemitic remarks

[@LoserBoomerBoy]

DownSyndrome Socialism is my new favorite term

[@Munchausenification]

So SecondThought adresses the least controversial parts and thinks he owned? What about him asking for more money 3 months after moving to a bigger studio, what about him probably lying about having to pay staff, when he at the same time tells his viewers he does most of the work anyway? He could just be transparent with his expenses compared to income, but he chooses not to because it probably isnt bad at all. Unless he for some reason donates 99% of his income, but doesnt tell anyone about it.

[@korysovec]

If he's so giving, why not help out small businesses around him or help other people who want to make coops.

[@macromaxim2193]

Bro he could pick individual stocks he feels are helping the environment or people in general

[@andoceans23]

What a sad state the online left is in

[@HellaSayHella]

I despise them for putting "confrontation" in the title.

[@ryantrumm2530]

They blocked all comments on their channel criticizing lasan just in time for him to get his youth to mass like and comment the video lmao 😂

[@jaeslow6347]

A post on lsf about Asmon saying Hasan should be banned for advocating to kill someone has just been taken down, it’s amazing how many people are scared of the morons influence to actively try to protect him from his own stupid stances.

[@DeadEndGoose]

The GDJ? Honestly youth isnt a bad description...

[@TuEIite]

What I don't understand is why do one time donations instead of investing the money to set up an annuity and trusts for said donations. If he donates as much as he claims to, he could set up funding programs that will keep on after he's no longer of this earth.

[@Daxank]

"I spend money on my friends" "I get my hair cut for free from a friend" Ok, buddy

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

All I know about socialism is like lupus. Its never lupus.

[@ArchangelPhenoix]

True House md socialism has never been tried

[@Danoriel]

That's a reference and a half homie, well done 🤣

[@ProfNDKai]

Epic reference 😂❤

[@marxizim]

52:54 this is bs, i got banned from his chat for typing “you’re misrepresenting what destiny said” when he was reacting to the norman finkelstein debate literal seconds after hitting send mind you i had been a previous subscriber for over a year

[@yelnatsch517]

12:40 Destiny reacting to his own reaction and telling himself to shut up is peak internet. 😂 Destiny humor, I love it.

[@ShaharMS]

"Kill your video games" 💀

[@joecockrell6628]

Incredibly convenient to just address the meme arguments rather than any actual criticism. “Socialism isn’t the idea that everyone is supposed to be poor.” No shit Sherlock.

[@bc9554]

Obviously. It just turns out everyone becomes poor and destitute every time it’s implemented

[@WoodEe-zq6qv]

Nah socialism is just the idea that has been proven to make everyone poor 😂

[@meteorwalkergg]

​@@bc9554not the acting monarchy! Hence, hammersickles are extreme-rightwing. Since they reject parliamentary power structures & embrace monarchical power structures

[@el_bino_burrito_695]

@@bc9554 as opposed to capitalism where just only 90% are poor instead! :)

[@jaaandro]

as opposed to capitalism. yall are so dumb its crazy 🤣🤣​@bc9554

[@Ishootcommunists]

A day without humiliation is a day wasted for Hasan.

[@asmbeats5369]

Based username.

[@yin3229]

Ok mr "Ishootcommunists", seriously I like Destiny but the people in this community are something else.

[@colbyrob4814]

a day without hasan*

[@maksekart7162]

Love the username and pfp

[@anarcatz]

​@@yin3229larping go brrr

[@DeathandGrim2]

Correct me if I'm wrong because i don't watch Hasan but does he ever rail against wealth hoarding? Because at @24:37 that is textbook wealth hoarding. Just wondering

[@TheChiggerBug]

“My money is in a checking account, socialism” - Hassan. This is unironically the WORST thing you can do as a rich person to the proliferate. Hoarding wealth doesn’t help literally anyone’s the economy relies on money being spent which is why economic stimulus given to the middle class is worth more than any corporate or 1%er tax break.

[@anubisgod23]

Bank reserves that they lend have nothing to do with where the money sits. It's literally just a % of their total holdings that they're allowed to lend out.

[@ChaseFarrow]

Nothing is stopping people from having little socialist communes inside of a capitalist society. In a socialist society, there is no opting out. Historically, they don't even give you the option to leave. It's either socialism or the gulag. There is no convincing me that the less tolerant system is better.

[@weignerleigner3037]

Yeah the Amish are basically communists

[@Hunterchuck]

That's not even accurate to history though. As authoritarian as the government of the USSR was, the government only controlled the heavy industry sector. Light industry was still under private sector, and there were plenty of private business going on in the USSR. The reason why the heavy industry came under central planning is easy to understand and i can't fathom someone disagreeing with the decision either. Also, if they didn't, i'd be willing to bet that WW2 would look VERY different.

[@damedusa5107]

There’s no opting out of capitalism either. If you create a socialist commune, someone will be paying taxes for the group.

[@WishfulCreation]

47:20 - there is no limitation to how much money you can gift someone, but there is a limitation to how much money you can take as an exclusion before having to pay gift taxes. That gift tax rule applies to both the annual limit and the lifetime limit - these limits also increase slightly each year (I'm an accountant). So, Destiny will need to pay gift taxes for giving his parents money, in excess of $18k per parent in 2024.

[@jogadorjnc]

Buying a nice house to live in is not capital investment because it's not capital, that's just consumerism (and consumerism is completely antithetical to capitalism because what you consume is not capital, you're just poofing your potential capital away). The house you live in is not an investment for all the reasons Destiny has already stated in the past (mostly you'll basically never treat it as an investment when it comes to liquidating it) But it's funny seeing people realize that hoarding money like a greedy dragon is explicitly anti-capitalist

[@ProfNDKai]

Ugh thanks for this genuinely thought i was the one that was crazy 😅

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

Capital isn’t just money, lol. 😅

[@jogadorjnc]

@@whenthedustfallsaway Did I say it was?

[@andrewk2886]

A house is an investment. It’s a store of wealth that appreciates over time through equity. It’s not a conventional investment where the returns are more immediate and obvious, but it’s absolutely an investment. Besides that, how is consumerism antithetical to capitalism? That makes absolutely no sense.

[@jogadorjnc]

@@andrewk2886 A house can be an investment. The house you live in isn't because you're never gonna let yourself go homeless in order to realize the capital gains. Consumerism is antithetical to capitalism because if you're spending money on consumables/experiences then you're not accruing capital. A $5000 jacket is $5000 worth of potential capital that you wasted. A true capitalist will never buy that jacket (unless they believe the jacket will somehow help them make more than 5k) and instead always convert the $5000 into capital.

[@user-pt1kj5uw3b]

He essentially lies by omission when talking to anyone that he knows doesn't already agree with him. Why won't he just say he wants the government to seize the means of production through inevitably violent means, rather than lying and saying he wants basic liberal policies.

[@BloodGangJohnWayne]

Oddly enough his community tried to cancel Ethan Klein for having the exact same beliefs as Hasan does in this interview.

[@SeanSauvageau]

Pretty sure that's the modus operandi for Communists. Lie about the methods because it looks bad.

[@edl4220]

2nd time my boy used obliviated. He must have been reading Harry Potter

[@ezragoldberg3132]

Poor Hermione, such a Sad scene :(

[@empiricus2211]

I love that word

[@booh905]

Yugioh*

[@rleeg6744]

"I don't have investments. . . I do have a stock portfolio and land, but it's just a safety net for when I stop working." 🤔

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

_McCarthy's trials?_ This kills my soul. There were _hearings._ Hearings in the HUAC -- the _House_ Un-American Activities Committee. Hearings not conducted by _Senator_ Jospeh McCarthy. There are also the Army-McCarthy hearings, but McCarthy didn't conduct those hearings, either, because he was a _target_ of them.

[@konymandella7190]

Bro as an electrician we get it so bad. Anytime we go to a family members house they just add in hey bring your tools I got a new ceiling fan I’ll give you some cash to put up. Mf I am off work today the last thing I want to do is work

[@henryliu5566]

But cash

[@Greiwulfe]

Hassan doesn't know what socialism is. He's the tell me you don't know anything about socialism without telling me meme. Hassan treats socialism like a vibe. The fact that he unironically says he doesn't even think about socialism....while his entire grift has been him promoting socialism.

[@damedusa5107]

People confuse socialism with socialist policies. Socialist policies are in general good and can fit in to a capitalist system, whereas socialism, well it would change society in complete totality. So many commentators confuse these two simply concepts.

[@TwoLeftSh0es]

10:05 No dummy, he means schooling the roads like when he does a fat burn out in his 1/4 million dollar Porsche Taycan.

[@supermonkeyqwerty]

45:00 I remember watching a video (either How Money Works or Economics Explained) on this; even then, huge real estate purchases and private transportation aren't "wasting money" on frivolous things; houses appreciate and yachts are chartered when unused. It's hard to bleed that magnitude of money outside of like basically gambling.

[@meowzord]

Coachella Socialism

[@inopes3628]

„Mom, dad, I’m a socialist, I can’t invest money… but you can!”

[@Rohtix]

"I don't do it to make a little extra money." Homie, your house and car. You expect people to believe that?

[@sang2582]

"after i labour all day i wanna socialize" the last fucking thing i want to do after im fucking tired coming home from work, is having to talk to people or be bothered by them... this guy never worked a single day of his life, the only thing you want to do aftera day of hard labour is sit down drink a beer chill a bit go shower and do your hobbies (gaming) if you have time at all

[@jasonaced2306]

I remember when I watched Hassan he say some stuff like there’s a generational curse in my family. My granddad lost all his money. My dad lost his money. I might lose all my money too and after watching this, it might genuinely be because they’re all bad with money and he’s bad with money too, are you not gonna like invest as an opportunity to make more money so you can do more socialist cause?

[@ProfNDKai]

Smh it sounds like because he’s never had like real life poor person financial insecurity he still hasn’t hired as financial advisors cos if he did they would have a 5 minute convo before Hassan appearance here and be coached to at least make what he’s just said here not sound like he’s literally wasting money that could be helping causes he believes in…. Mainly wasting it by letting the banks use it to make investments giving him barely anything in interest In comparison to him giving it to a business that could make crazy profit for the person & inject wealth into their local community But he’s had nepo baby financial insecurity lol which is likely part of him probs acting like this 😅

[@ImperatorSomnium]

StarCraft meta video when?!

[@e-man7418]

Can someone PLEASE tell me what music they use for the intro/teaser? I gotta replay the video like 5 times to get the tune out of my head.

[@UnusModule]

Left right by XG

[@e-man7418]

Whoever replied with the K-pop song and has their comment deleted….fuck you

[@aliephoosu9486]

Man the art thing hits so close to home. My brothers wife asked me play piano at their wedding, gave me requests and shit. Practiced for literal months, and then she got mad I didn't buy them a gift lmfao. Gave them the most expensive gift of the entire fucking thing if you calculate the working hours I put in

[@Silverwidows]

I'd have respect for hasan if he actually used his wealth to live a socialist lifestyle or move to another country which aligns more with his "values". He currently lives in the most decadent capatalist area in the world. I can't think of, outside of New York, a more capitalist area than LA. It isn't about "bro can't have money if socialist" it's moving your life and living your life to the values you preach. If I had this guys wealth and could work from anywhere in the world, i'd at least move to a nordic country. That's at least a step away from whatever LA is

[@redaffix7320]

I'd respect him if he was honest, then instead of "investing" in his house, he just founded a couple charities. The PR would've been great and no matter how much shit people fling at him, he'd have the excuse that he runs charities and donates most of his wealth. As of now, he's as bad as Candace, with an even worse attitude.

[@dindul3843]

he lives the most crazy decadent lifestyle and when you critise him for it he says oh you think socalism is when you are poor.

[@ForTheHordeXIII]

​@@redaffix7320not even that hard. All he'd have to do is live off dono's and bits, and publicly donate his Bezos check to socialist causes and orgs. He can't even do the bare minimum...

[@Silverwidows]

@@dindul3843 exactly. It's not about having money, it's what you do with it, and if you are buying $3 million homes and 100k+ sports cars, people will call you a champagne socialist.

[@krombopulos_michael]

If he moved to Denmark or something then he'd have to pay more taxes and wouldn't be able to try and network with Hollywood celebrities

[@alekm6057]

Based on Hassan’s personality and MO he’s clearly lying by omission with what he does with his money. My guess is he’s hiding how much he spends on hedonistic seeking activities. Basam is a pleasure pursuing person not a challenge myself with difficult things, person.

[@BloodGangJohnWayne]

I don't care what Hasan does with his money. He is clearly lying here though. Why does he lie? To avoid getting his grift exposed.

[@RealmRabbit]

I've got someone who offered to do art for me, specifically a 2d vtube model as well as rigging, and it was kinda for free... Really was a Christmas gift so its kinda like a discounted price in that sense and it allows them to practice it to potentially do future commissions... So yeah, just make an art friend and I guess get close enough to them that they will offer you the art... Gunna be great when it's finished :D Really wild since like, with the rigging its not JUST art its so much more work... Couldn't really afford to pay them for it if I wanted rn...

[@jroc397]

lmao the realization after the gift amount 😭😭😭

[@maisonleigh4724]

I ain’t ever taking a man who ate waffles with Nick Fuentes seriously.

[@MintVolcano]

The best take Destiny has ever given is "Don't ask your friends to do art for free"

[@pinec0ne]

No shot this millionaire's 401k account doesn't include Amazon stocks lmao

[@sevenninethree9546]

Hamasanabi is probably a die hard Trump supporter off camera. He’s fake af LOLLLL 😂😂😂😂😂

[@CertainAffinity1337]

Thank you for the commentary Mr. Ravioli.

[@BloodGangJohnWayne]

He totally wrecked this lasagna dude's ideology.

[@ForTheHordeXIII]

35:25 bro spent $1700 on lunch with Lud, Rae, and Poke. Bro at in a lunch what i make in a month.

[@thomasnicolle8339]

No way streaming is as soul sucking as sales

[@trendyasdabbers]

Yo Destiny.

[@adamfarkas51]

Hasan is such an insane grifter I can’t dude

[@IEdjumacate]

He gave the classic job resume weakness answer for his criticisms 😂 “my weakness is that I’m too organized”

[@Amumulessthan3]

Destiny: NOOOOO NEVER ASK YOUR FRIENDS FOR FREE LABOUR!! meanwhile he asks personal trainers for gym advice smh

[@benbowland]

"Lead Paint Socialism" is my new favorite term

[@luiscardoso9997]

Very interesting that hasan said "I spend money on my family and friends" but he never said anything about his editors

[@mikeyg9958]

Why is the title of that podcast episode the complete opposite of what happens in the video?

[@lolmeatu]

His house wouldn't be capital accumulation because we all know he is going to sell his house for exactly what he bought it for. He would never profit through the means of hording land for himself.

[@CutACrow]

Those who tell you how to live tend to be emperors without clothes.

[@jotitoquintero929]

Thanks August

[@twiggmister1]

hahahaha he '100%' didn't want to shout out the restaurants, because he started to say he's going to restaurants that source their meats 'ethically' (whatever that means..) and he didn't want it to get clipped and proven *BULLSHIT* when someone looks up the restaurant or something.. and I feel like maybe they asked him that, because they knew he'll bullshittt hahaha

[@DerGedankenGarten]

What Microphone is Destiny using?

[@Skibbityboo0580]

I believe it is the purple-headed microphone.

[@DerGedankenGarten]

@@Skibbityboo0580 what

[@1212rocketlauncher]

RE 20

[@DerGedankenGarten]

@@1212rocketlauncher ty

[@OlYables]

What does Mr. Borrelli know about being social anyway?! He just read a Wikipedia page on it!

[@kristianbasile7141]

Destiny has good points on the coop for the merch.

[@blobbb]

Oh yah, always pay your friends if they do work for you. Don't accept discounts, pay them what they're worth, etc... If they do a good job they deserve to be paid for it.

[@shyahisotalo7826]

Hasan: Like, like, like, like sounds like a rich cali girl, "thats Hot"- Paris Hilton 😂

[@ProfNDKai]

He identifies as a Himbo i.e male bimbo

[@AdamPoop-ju7sj]

I feel like destiny is spewing into the ether. Until he can publicly debate hasan and break this stupid ideas down, I will always be bored of this. It seems like a waste of time. We gotta find a way to get them together to put an official end to hasan or at least expose his bullshit

[@delorne2776]

You personally may be bored of this, but bottom line his larger audience loves when he shit talks Hasan.

[@Lilliathi]

It's not about fixing Hassan, it's about exposing his nonsense to the public.

[@Choppermv17]

Lol how would destiny eat I dont want him to starve

[@AdamPoop-ju7sj]

@@delorne2776 well I’m not BORED of it, as much as I wish it could be something that reaches everyone. Like destiny viewers know hasan is a moron, but more people I know know about hasan than they do destiny. Hasan has better outreach, but destiny has better ideas. Destiny needs to work on being more constructive in convos, and he needs to get on a show that reaches all with Hasan and expose the ideas in front of EVERYONE

[@AdamPoop-ju7sj]

@@Lilliathi Yes I agree. No one is saying fix Hasan. I just wish the pushback destiny gives could be something more concrete. It feels like we’re watching a rightfully angry dude trying to scream to people who will already listen to him. Meanwhile Hasan is basically unregulated giving his nonsense to a broader audience. I want THAT audience to hear destiny out

[@confinedorigion8242]

any idea on what song destiny used for this intro?