Loki's Legendary Devil Fruit is MORE Powerful Than We Thought!

[@austinrocke8145]

The only reason I cannot believe that Loki ate the actual gomu-gomu no mi is due to Vegapunk saying that the fruit doesn't exist in the old devil fruit encyclopedia. As much as I would love that fight, it's just hard to see that as reality now.

[@Memelord1117]

Maybe the gum gum hasn't been discovered, cause how did they come up with that name in the first place?

[@chad63]

@@Memelord1117 i mean go through the df encyclopedia and pick a name thats not there lol

[@yashrey123456789]

If there was such a fruit with the king of giants, Saul would have known and there would have been a record on Ohara... And VP has read all the books on Ohara ​@@Memelord1117

[@darthshadius1]

​@@Memelord1117Coming up with a name isn't hard.....just saying.

[@GameCyborgCh]

@@Memelord1117 and it would be a very well kept secret since the fruit would only be passed down through the ruling family of Elbaf, so it makes sense that it wouldn't be in the encyclopedia

[@kenethnekundi8865]

The devil fruits on Elbaf could be more Logia-based. Since Whole Cake Island was filled with Big Mom's crew having Paramecia-based powers, while Wano we had Kaido's crew with Zoan-based powers. That's just my theory

[@SmackHah]

Maybe like a logia mimicking them the Sun. The Sun Sun Df. That would be insane and I'd definitely see why Loki would call himself the Sun God.

[@SmackHah]

Honestly, this route would definitely be cool to see. I could see Loki thinking he is the Sun God because he has a logia df that turns him into solar plasma. The Sun Sun Df.

[@thatboy3930]

I think it's a Legendary Paramecia. If this Loki is anything similar to Marvel's Loki, then he is about trickery and deception. He utilizes illusions, shape-shifting, hypnosis, and telepathy. He can also levitate, teleport, create dimensional rifts, and manipulate objects with his mind. Loki from Marvel also came from Frost Giants, and is also "competing" to be king with a fellow peer, so there is a lot of similarities here.

[@xXsnak3bit3Xx]

@@thatboy3930 Adding in that Marvel copy/pasted that from actual Mythology, so it's not just Marvel. Learned this the other night by losing trivia to a mythology question. I Thought Thor was just a marvel character and not actually the "god of thunder" lmao. I had my friend that studies multiple variants of mythology (greek, norse, etc.) and he did mention Loki being a frost giant, about being god of trickery, etc... One thing he did mention (and I could be remembering this wrong, as well as too lazy to google it myself), was that he killed his father in norse mytholgy, but the being tied to a tree part came from greek mytholgy, also that he killed his brother instead of his father. This was bar talk so naturally I'm not remembering everything but I remember thinking they could build up a moment where Loki kills his brother (Hajrudin in this case) as my friend explained everything to me.

[@thatboy3930]

@@xXsnak3bit3Xx I'm sure Oda will put his own spin on it, similar to what Stan Lee did with his iteration of it.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-wm7br]

There's 2 points wrong with the Gomu Gomu no Mi theory. 1. The World Government knew they had the Nika fruit until Shanks' crew stole it. That was why Who's Who was imprisoned. 2. Vegapunk has stated there is no Gomu Gomu no Mi in the original Devil Fruit encyclopedia.

[@HappyChap9]

Well it's still possible that it's not in the encyclopedia because Elbaph is in a similar state as Wano and the real Gomu Gomu no mi has been falsely worshipped for hundreds of years

[@FirenX1]

@@HappyChap9 It wasn`t in the old Devil Fruit Encyclopedia because the WG renamed it after finding out it`s true Powers and to hinder anyone from getting it, they just named it after its basic Traits..Being Rubber, hence the Gomu Gomu no Mi..Vegapunk didn`t have any clue how it looked like so he was only able to search for it by Name..That`s why the Gomu Gomu no Mi wasn`t in the Old Book, but the Hito Hito no Mi Model: Nika (it`s original Name) was, that`s how the WG found out about it and since very few have the Old One besides WG, Elbaph and Vegapunk, they could rename it into the Gomu Gomu no Mi (and printing it in the New Book which was edited and published by the WG to take out Void Century-Fruits of higher Meaning of the Book) without anyone knowing it`s true Origin and hunting it down..Till Shanks came around.

[@OhMyItsEli]

@@HappyChap9why would the real sun god fruit be in there, if your logic is correct?

[@nagavenigovindaraj4096]

​@@OhMyItsEli because the people in elbaph thought they had it ig

[@HappyChap9]

@@OhMyItsEli Because the giants praise Nika more than any other race and they should know that not everyone can eat the fruit and become Nika

[@KoboltBlue]

my guess as to why it feels like Logia fruit users haven't really done much lately is because 2 of our largest antagonist are Logia users being Sakazuki and Blackbeard. So Oda might be holding off on that for now

[@jackjacques7495]

Agreed. Not to mention Dragon is very likely a Logia user too, and boy has Oda been saving him for the end XD.

[@imjango1052]

I'm still theorizing that the dark-dark fruit is actually a mythical zoan and upon awakening Blackbeard will become the God of Darkness. That would make him a direct counter to Luffy and it would explain why his fruit doesn't behave like any other Logia.

[@fanboy4you]

@@jackjacques7495 he is saving dragon for two piece, he will train buffy just like garp did to luffy by doing nothing, a job he is master at

[@gabrielgoes0]

​@@fanboy4youlmfao

[@EasternDeath]

The most prominent Logia users are the admirals and blackbeard who haven't been the main antagonists of an arc since the Marineford war. All the new ones that have gotten introduced in the New World feel underwhelming compared to them

[@mistahanansi2264]

There are no less than SIX prominent wolves in Norse Mythology, and Skoll is the one that is trying/supposed to “devour the sun”, NOT Fenrir… that’s just “wiki scholars” conflating mythological wolves.

[@Eranell]

Skoll, Hati, Fenrir, Garm... which are the other 2?

[@mistahanansi2264]

@@Eranell Geri and Freki, Odin’s wolves.

[@mikesnyder3317]

No. It’s hatti that eats the moon. Scroll chases the sun and hatti the moon

[@giulienmessinger659]

@@Eranell geri and freki the wolves and companions of odin (and hugin and munin his ravens)

[@mikesnyder3317]

I miss read this. Your right

[@thomerno]

Here's an idea, what if Loki has the plasma plasma fruit. Ceasar has the gas gas fruit, so we know that "states of matter" fruits exist, and he hard counters smokers who is a type of gass user. So why not have a plasma fruit that counters fire, light, electricity (3 very stong logia fruits) and stars which includes the sun

[@jackjacques7495]

Just my opinion, but I don't think Oda thought of Cesar's fruit in the sense of gas "the state of matter", but rather just gas "the element". For example, I don't think there's a "liquid" Logia or a "solid" Logia, since those would be far too general and include most substances by themselves.

[@thomerno]

@@jackjacques7495 i agree that i dont think solid or liquid would be a thing because they are too strong, but plasma only covers a couple of things and they are usually not naturally spawning

[@mokaljordan]

Yea im leaning towards plasma fruit with oda canonizing the zuma zuma fruit but i also feel like whatever loki's fruit is he or the big bad of the arc may need to have the power to cause a solar eclipse to usher in Ragnarok imo

[@LucThelight]

Hito hito no mi model surtur. Makes the most sense. If I recall correctly in certain legends he's said to be the primary reason to Ragnarok happening or at least one of them. It would also make sense with the Will of the Devil Fruit since it has to uphold to prophecy about destroying the world.

[@morkoski6046]

Nhl, just had the same thought. If Hajrudin had gotten Aces's fruit he would have become a fire giant... A FIRE GIANT If we're assuming that Loki's fruit is similar in any kind of way, that's one step towards Surtr already Add that to wanting to destroy the world, Loki and Surtr being basically the beginning and end of Ragnarok, and the GIANT SWORD SITTING RIGHT THERE... yeah, the chances of a Surtr fruit are quite high

[@NameHerbert]

So Imu must be some kind of rain deity? Rising water levels and stuff

[@shadow-faye]

​@@NameHerbertQuetzalcoatl perhaps? Would be a snake too

[@SmackHah]

I think the same. I could also see why they needed every giant to stop him. Surtur is considered a giant fire demon or fire giant. It would be the equivalent of Sanjuan Wolf and his Huge-Huge Fruit, but even more OP with an even more OP person using a fruit that makes you bigger. I think we might get a hint at it being surtur if we see one or two giants with burns.

[@itsmyboardwhotalk]

no it doesnt make any sense surtur and loki are distinct persons in norse mytholodgy

[@WereDictionary]

I think there was an instance when the true nature of Luffy's DF was revealed where the Gorosei went like "there never was a Gomu Gomu no Mi". Like yeah they represent peoples' dreams and people can wish to be rubbery but it would be super weird for the world government's head honchos to not be aware of this fruit and then accidentally pass off a god fruit as this fruit that also exists but they dont know about.

[@leafshade3643]

Jarul is 408, giants would enter the void century in terms of their age in a MERE two generations. It's passed down as an heirloom by a royal family in a separatist country, unlike most other fruit that would be popping up all over the place in the span of 800 years, it makes sense that it would be undocumented by any text Vegapunk has ever read, or even the WG.

[@Predated2]

@@leafshade3643 You are assuming that prior to the void century devil fruits didnt exist. Sure, the oldest confirmed uses we know are from the void century (hito hito model nika, toki toki no mi, Imu's fruit(assuming it is a fruit) and the Ope ope no mi all have been consumed or used in that time, maybe I'm forgetting one or 2 since Ryuma could have lived during that time and the dragon he killed was a devil fruit user). But there is nothing telling us Devil Fruits didnt exist at all prior to that. Yeah, there is an implication that either Imu or Joyboy (or both) are responsible for creating devil fruits, but other than that, it could have been prior to both existing too.

[@WereDictionary]

@@leafshade3643 Oh thats a good point.

[@s0cKi1]

It seems i refreshed KZbin at the right time.

[@masch7000]

fact

[@dylanjackson5304]

I just opened it lol

[@Theabyss456]

Facts

[@NoteNirvana.]

ditto

[@Sciborg9]

Same

[@soulless_artist]

As I understand it Ragnarok has already happened and will happen again as the world will repeat itself, like a cycle of life and death, Ragnarok destroys the World tree and after that the world is remade and the World tree grows once again.

[@spaghettimaghetti5042]

i think ragnarok will be more than that i think its going to be the down fall of imu and the celestial dragons ragnarok legit means "the doom of the gods"

[@nickeayres6295]

That is correct. Nice so many people get that wrong

[@nickeayres6295]

@spaghettimaghetti5042 I like that theory but that would mean the theme would stretch across several arcs

[@spaghettimaghetti5042]

@@nickeayres6295 we are like 3-5 arcs away from one piece ending so why not

[@nickeayres6295]

@@spaghettimaghetti5042 Because I swear oda has OCD when it comes to his patterns

[@kamel5471]

Wild guess, he has sun sun fruit ( paramecia )

[@hemmatdahal]

Does that mean he can become sun?

[@gallum5344]

Maybe Escanor style?

[@lovseaexploration]

Or like an odemheim fruit, cosmic energy, manipulates light colour ultra violet etc Or could be nuke nuke fruit

[@kamel5471]

@@hemmatdahal yeah maybe the awakening is literally transforming to an invincible sun

[@Crazylom]

​@@lovseaexplorationThe return of Foxy...

[@HappyChap9]

Here's a possibility, the real Gomu Gomu no mi is unrecorded because the fruit has been falsley worshipped by Elbaphians for hundreds of years. I believe the issue on Elbaph isn't about a big bad but rather false gods on Elbaph, and Luffy becoming their real sun god.

[@rembrandtr6446]

Get out the kitchen, you finna burn it down

[@JBD444]

9:51 We’re gonna make logia’s great again, and we’re gonna make Loki pay for it. One Piece 2024 😂

[@ChronoSquare]

Plasma Plasma Fruit DBZ beams become canon

[@unknown-iy6ss]

he has the Fear Fear fruit. Nothing would be more legendary to a kingdom of warriors obsessed with bravery and pride. the fruit might give the user control over others fear. plus it will fit with Usopp's quest to overcome fear and become a brave warrior. fits thematically

[@eliaspanayi3465]

Usopp is gonna have a bigger and better "you can't stop me, I already live I'm fear all the time!"

[@Predated2]

Honestly, it would be SO much funnier if he had a fear-fear fruit that just induced fear towards the user if their will is weaker and gives the user control over everyone that fears him. But he is the nicest guy around and doesnt realize he is actively manipulating people because he doesnt understand how the fruit works.

[@theshuman100]

Loki being a perona parrallel isnt what i was expecting but okay

[@karoltv4390]

Not working on anyone with YC1+ haki

[@kingospaz3692]

If this was True that he Has the Fear-Fear Fruit Just Imagine He Could Manifest A Will So Powerful That He Could Actually Become That Will, Unless someone has Weird Fears And Loki Just Becomes A Looney Toon Anything is possible it's one piece.

[@JMIK1991]

I love you mentioned the big snake... as you know, when giants used their last attack against giant goldfish... they mentioned it is one and only thing their attack cannot pierce ("Great serpent soaked in blood", chapter 129).

[@Squiggums799]

I think that was referring to the Red Line, wasn't it?

[@raindy1]

The whole final saga is going to be full of logia tho. Blackbeard, Kuzan, Akainu, Sabo, Aramaki, Kizaru, Crocodile and maybe even Caribou

[@creativeprovocateur001]

And possibly final boss enel

[@Tribies]

@@creativeprovocateur001 Enel feels a little like a Frieza kind of villan, that if he have actually trained himself and his devilfruit powers during the time he has been off page he could probably do some damage when he comes back. Since he was that strong without ever training to begin with.

[@timothycarney9652]

Some mythology info- Ragnarok is implied to have happened, BUT only because the primary source we have on the myth was written by someone trying to create a shared norse cultural identity (he wanted his native iceland to join up with norway) and everything he wrote has to be examined for bias due to that. For example after ragnarok bauldur and his brother show up again (they died long before ragnarok) along with 2 humans in an adam and eve situation, and several points in the book refer to a god of light and everything good in a way that is clearly shoehorning in christianity, while in other places it uses all the good things Baldur is associated with to create a similar parallel, ie the world ends but no worries we have the god of all the good stuff still hear, with some humans to repopulate. This also points to Snorri, writing the whole thing with Ragnarok intended to be a good thing, a cleansing apocalypse that paves the way for the good world we currently live in. Other notes- Fenrir doesn't eat the sun or moon, Skoll and Hati do, I forget if they are fenrir or loki's kids but they aren't Fenrir.

[@gabrielgoes0]

Maybe Skoll and Hati are Loki's underlings. Or just one of them with a "double" mythical zoan

[@Aristotle000001]

My idea is that Loki's devil fruit would be some unfair-type op fruit like Perona's or Sugar's. That way Usopp can play an important role in defeating him xdd

[@Aristotle000001]

And it would also allow for regular metal chains to be effective to stop him, if the power is like "touch with your hands and turn them into a toad" or something

[@senfsenfdazugeb7816]

For me, it's a fruit that makes his listeners believe his stories. So GOD Lysop is going to out lie him, in so becoming the legendary warrior lyspo acknowledged by all giants.

[@gilShoresh]

2:30 if oda plans it that far back it’s incredible!

[@josephdavis9234]

Okay, here's my wild guess. Loki's Devil Fruit is the Kin Kin no Mi. A Logia that gives him the power to turn into metallic gold.

[@mokaljordan]

A similar fruit exists in film gold, gild tesoro has the goru goru no mi but the kin kin no mi could be a stronger version of it

[@Lupinemancer87]

It's also possible that Loki's fruit has no relation at all to Norse Mythology but is a power that is simple assumed to be something Myth related, kinda like how Giants are often tied into Norse Mythology when in reality, they had nothing to do with. The Giants are from Greek Mythology, they were created by Gaia to be the antithesis to the Olympian gods. What people often mistake for Giants in Norse Mythology were called Jotnar, who were not giants, but the antithesis of the Aesir/Vanir gods.

[@gabeiusbabyius5628]

People are weird for thinking he didn't have a fruit. There is no way that those chains could hold him if he wasn't weak to sea prism stone.

[@TheRealFervor]

Why hasnt anyone mentioned that last chapter from little garden when dorry and broggy bust a hole in the giant goldfish, and before that they say ,,only the serpent soaked in blood can withstand our attack,, . They believe he killed his father, therefore hes soaked in blood. I am convinced they are talking about Loki, but could this mean he also has the jormugandr fruit?

[@MugiGust]

I think it's because It's not possible for them to have known about Loki's powers by then. They were fighting for a hundred years in Little Garden and Loki wasn't even born yet. So in Little Garden It was not possible for them to know about Loki's existence neither his powers.

[@TheRealFervor]

@@MugiGust you are right. Just checked, hes 63y old. But im still intrigued as to what serpent soaked in blood means.

[@jackjacques7495]

Yeah, I lot of people overlook that Oda revealed Loki'a age a long time ago. He's 63, like Goldberg and Road, so he was born long after Dorry and Broggy started their 100-year duel in Little Garden. Ie they didn't even know Loki existed during the Little Garden arc.

[@-loones54]

I think it is the redline.​@@TheRealFervor

[@mylespando5192]

Loki has the Cerberus fruit but instead of Cerberus it’s Wolves and they’re Fenrir, Skoll, and Hati. Inu Inu Model: Wolferus 😂

[@gianenci]

I just HOPE Loki will NOT have another zoan. I'm tired of them. I hope in a paramecia too tbh. I think they are usually the most creative type but can't imagine what power could be.. Or maybe, wouldbe cool to see the awakening of a rogia from him!

[@jackjacques7495]

I want him to have a Paramecia because, yes, I'm also a bit tired of Zoans, but also, Liam didn't mention we're set to have so many Logia users gather during the final arcs, which is probably why Oda has been holding back on them for now. Akainu, Kizaru, Kuzan, Green Bull, Blackbeard, Crocodile, Sabo, Karasu, and maybe Dragon if it's true he has the Wind Logia. All of them are set as big participants during the final conflict, which is probably why Oda has been focusing on the other 2 types for a while.

[@lordtsweeble2898]

"Solid Logia antagonist" >Brings up Ceasar Dude is literally gas.

[@TrashyBashy]

Given the narrative that’s been followed through the arc, I think Loki’s devil fruit is whatever war god the giants worship. Looking at Norse Mythology, the surface level answer would be Týr, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if the god they worship is the namesake of their island, Elbaph.

[@Gwannyn]

The giants' God of War is indeed called Elbaf. It was revealed back in the Little Garden arc. I looked it up recently in the original Japanese and it quite clearly mentions the god by name. Seeing as the island shares the name of their war god, it would be fitting for a fruit of their god to also be passed down in the royal family.

[@Himura_Reverie]

The most recent video by Morj about Loki, he thinks Loki might have the hito hito no mi model Elbaph.

[@davewire87]

I find it hard to be the Gomu Gomu no Mi as Vegapunk seemed to be fairly certain that such a fruit doesn’t exist. Unless it’s a fruit with similar stretchy powers but a totally different name like the Stretchy Stretchy Fruit or something. We still have no clear idea why the weird errors were happening in the Lego castle, right? Why Luffy’s weapon kept changing, why Nami’s bracelet disappeared, Zoro didn’t get lost, and that one panel when they attacked the cat that clearly referenced an earlier attack from Alabasta, etc. If that wasn’t an effect from Road himself, perhaps Loki’s fruit subtly alters reality and brings stories to life but is imperfectly used so long as he is chained up?

[@xxmension04xx47]

I want Loki to have the true gum-gum fruit...can you imagine, he's freed by Luffy not knowing he's a bad guy some giants show up to try and stop him, and we just have Loki stretch his arm back and shout "GUM-GUM PISTOL!" (or something other than pistol) and just watch Luffy be so surprised at seeing Loki do what he can do

[@BlitzedKip420]

This is easily the most prolific "theory" on his fruit I have seen by far (and I'm in a lot of OP related discussion spaces) and tbh no, that'd make this awesome character intro a damn gag, no ty. Idk. Would be sorta funny but I doubt oda would tbh

[@tobiaswedin]

@@BlitzedKip420 Don't worry, that won't happen. These guy seems to collectively have forgotten that Vegapunk confirmed that there is no such thing as a gomu gomu no mi.

[@dominijlife6765]

@@tobiaswedin well that wasnt discovered right so gum gum could exist but i doubt we will see it

[@tobiaswedin]

@@dominijlife6765 No, the context of that speech was to confirm that the entire concept of a rubber fruit is a fraud.

[@daniela.n6277]

I think the rubber fruit definitely exists somewhere out there

[@mylespando5192]

Luffy is the sun god based on Hanumanji who literally ate the sun to become a true god. So why wouldn’t Loki have a zoan fruit based on a creature that eats the sun (fenrir didn’t do this) and call himself the SunGod

[@willdaniel5124]

Loki already sounds amazing as a antagonist or whatever force he's gonna be/represent, but ever since Gear 5th came and Oda stated that he only wants to draw what's fun for him, I trust that it'll be a really good showdown... I'm so glad I lived through all of One Piece to be able to even witness moments like these though

[@samfisher6606]

But didn't Vegapunk say that the Gomu-Gomu fruit didn't exist in the encyclopedia?

[@psxbxgaming1258]

Maybe he has a df which gives him reality altering powers? Only caveat is him needing to use his vision to alter reality ? Or maybe a mythical zoan model chimera devil fruit where he’s a mix of wolf , a snake and a horse?🤔

[@gaama6050]

To be fair, Zoans have only gotten so abundant after Wano. Before that, Paramecias and Logia’s had most of Post Time Skip’s relevance.

[@tobiaswedin]

Correction; The official interprets (not confirms, they are not accuracy checked by Shueisha after all, and are more often than not the incorrect translation between official and scans) it as that is what is said, and if so the only thing it confirms is that the Elbaf Pirates are under the belief Loki ate the fruit.

[@collinoly]

I thought Vega punk already stated that was no rubber fruit.

[@baliart908]

I called it right now, it's gonna be logia water

[@Krishnakumar-wl7ih]

But, Vegapunk told that the Devil fruit encyclopaedia never had Gomu Gomu no Mi ever.

[@SazzMazz]

I say it's the Cloud-Cloud fruit. It's powerful, you can make blizzards, storms etc. And one would probably look more Nika-ish.

[@phillipeh9990]

That’s a good one, as a cloud master could claim to be the sun god, as he controls everyone’s access to it

[@rafaelsierra7287]

I think it being the actual gomu gomu no mi would make sense because it would be a good entry point to introduce the straw hats to the hito hito no mi and give them an actual explanation to gear 5

[@cencordduetocringe]

I came in thinking loki might have some kind of logia that is related to the sun, basically one upping the magma fruit, like the plasma-plasma fruit, but now I also want loki to be a gomu-gomu eater as well.

[@kevinvieira2834]

Funny enough, theoretically, there exists a plasma fruit already. It's used in an official one-piece play. Like, a theater play, yk?

[@lovseaexploration]

Nuke nuke fruit since the sun is made of those explosions Or odemheim fruit

[@CheshireCatNY]

Didn’t Vegapunk say there was no such thing as the Gomu Gomu No Mi?

[@MrMsPaint]

What if he had a sun logia, if greenbull can have a forest logia, then Loki could have a sun logia

[@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257]

how would that work? nuclear powers?

[@freyaow]

wouldnt everything around him just like dissapear from the heat 😭

[@Ashtarte3D]

I still don't understand why Greenbull's fruit is considered Logia when it seems far closer to a Special Paramecia like Katakuri's Mochi fruit. It's not like Logia are mandatory for Admirals since Fujitora has a gravity based Paramecia.

[@MrMsPaint]

@@Ashtarte3D the point is that what we used to think logia's was just elements like sand and fire but Greenbull changed that with is forest fruit, so maybe like how paramecia's have special paramecia's and zoan's have mythic and ancient, maybe there are standard logia's that have just one element then there are ones like Greenbulls where it represents an environment or parts of nature and have extra powers associated with that, like a mountain logia or a sky logia (i couldn't think of any good examples) also I've just remembered Caribous swamp fruit so maybe i'm onto something lol

[@gabrielcasaccio1031]

It could de a paraimicia sun sun fruit like escanor

[@Cussie3]

Agreed on the mythical zoan fatigue... I want the creative devil fruits to come back for the antagonist.

[@ibrahim5463]

Wabol devil fruit was creative, but no one is praising that

[@dakingotheworld]

I think its a reality altering fruit that allows the user to make people see whatever they want them to see, kinda like that dark haired chick on that old HEROS(save the cheerleader save the world)show. Thats why his eyes are bandaged probably

[@grixonyt]

My theory is that Loki has a Jotuun jotuun no mi that gives him the power to affect the environment and give those who look into his eyes to be given illusions and tricked. This could probably be linked to jormungandir as a zoan model And he could probably use ice as a narrative antithesis to Sun God aspect of the gomu gomu no mi and in ragnarök Midgard snowed like crazy hence the heavy snow in elbaf and around Loki.

[@rgb-lab]

interesting idea about ragnarok (sorry if this was already mentioned): it would be interesting if the giants saw the red line as a sort of world serpent, which would also tie into the idea of ragnarok beginning with the world serpent releasing its tail from its mouth, or in the case of one piece, the red line being destroyed, just like Shyarly said would happen in the fishman island saga, thus triggering ragnarok aka the last big war previously mentioned by kaido after whitebeards death… (regardless of whether or not this is going to be canon, it sounds like an interesting idea to me)

[@Kane-e5p]

The mother flame logia idea is amazing as it would also explain why harudin wanted the fame fruit as the next best option, the flame fruit would just be the true weaker version instead of the magma, or it could be seen as the mother flame fruit is superior to the magu magu no mi

[@jackjacques7495]

Tbh, I personally would not want to see another "superior version" of the fire Logia. Kinda diminishes it's role. I think one (magma) is enough.

[@christianschmid1440]

I suggest a couple of other fruits: - Ginnungagap Ginnungagap no mi (working title). the Ginnungagap is the void at the beginning of time. but this might be too similiar to black beards fruit tho. - Útgarða no mi: noticable there was a giant in north mythology called Útgarða-Loki (

[@thechatteringclown]

3:23 this is solely based on one source i'm familiar with, so take it with a grain of salt, but, while the events of ragnarok are described as being merely visions of odin for an upcoming event, our modern world probably exists in a post ragnarok area. the events post ragnarok are suspiciously christianity inspired, with the world being destroyed and repopulated by the only two remaining people, a man and a woman (obvious parallels to adam and eve), and the surviving divine beings coming together under the leadership of the revived baldr, a god of justice and goodness, nicknamed "the shining one" (obvious parallels both to jesus's resurrection and to the christian god). so the basic idea is that the old gods died during ragnarok, and that after ragnarok the new christian pantheon and our current world order came into power. now, it's important to remember that we don't really have much first-hand information about the original nordic beliefs, and most of what we have is a propaganda piece, written by a guy in order to try to reunite iceland and norway, so he probably wrote it in such a manner to pacify both sides and combine the two religions into one continuous narrative.

[@thevagrantking]

Loki above all else is the God of mischief, lies and stories. I think he has a fruit that's similar to Bonnie's in function, where he has the Lie-Lie fruit or something. Where Bonnie's was contingent on her belief of what she could become, Loki's could be on what he's able to convince others to be true. This does a few things: 1. It would allow him to use what he understands to be the powers of the sun God, or what he has told the people of Elbaf they are to be. 2. It takes advantage of Luffy's potential weakness of believing in others, and adds to the stakes if Luffy were to set him free. 3. It gives Usopp some further agency and connection to Elbaph, as that's his signature ability without the fruit, and surely this will be a strong Usopp arc.

[@Choppydplug]

The hito hito no no model the godliest god usopp

[@Bjdunnobi]

4:36 the way Loki was chained up made me think of Fenrir

[@Khelzugah]

3:25 this is actually an interesting question. Short answer, we don't know. We know actually rather little about norse mythology, despite what one might think with the ammount of it we have in pop culture, . There are arguments that can be made that Ragnarok already happend, but the things pointing to that could be additions made by christian monks. The version we have does end with only 2 humans surviving and Baldr coming back to life, a god of purity and light. This is extremly christian coded and could have beend included to explain to the population why they should worship this "new" god now. Funnily enough Loki himself is a very paradoxical figure in the mythology. To a point where one could raise the question if he was originally part of norse mythology, or a later edition by christian monks aswell.

[@thechatteringclown]

i take it you're subscribed to red as well?

[@-ZH]

@@thechatteringclown Poor blue

[@thechatteringclown]

@@-ZH eh, blue's the history guy. red is in charge of myths. but yeah, I guess they both deserve recognition.

[@MaxTale]

I think a paramecia type trickster fruit would be cool. Obviously Loki is known as the trickster god of norse mythology but it goes deeper than that. The trickster uses his reality bending powers to play cruel tricks on people that only make himself laugh, this trait would make him a perfect false Nika who also breaks the rules of reality but spreads joy and laughter to others.

[@grcobra7858]

Great video like always❤

[@Choppydplug]

It was only out for 3 minutes 😂😂😂😂

[@durpanda123]

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[@hermietoe5213]

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[@Hippleton]

11:55 tekking doesnt think that lmfao. He likes the idea of it being a nuclear fusion logia.

[@apro-123]

3:24 Okay so about your question, technically both and none of them. It might have happend and we dont know it or it will happen later down the line. I think what you belived mostly depended on where in the world the viking was from, their family ect. But more importantly in what I have seen in One Piece so far it hasnt happend yet in the One Piece verse. (Also im a norwegian man who is WAY to intrested in norse mythology so I should have some credibility.)

[@usagihime_kelly]

This is the comment I came looking for. Hopefully Liam highlights your reply

[@thechatteringclown]

@abcdefg-gt1fk i go into more detail in my own comment, but it's very likely it already happened. post ragnarok events are suspiciously similar to christian beliefs, so the basic idea is that ragnarok already happened and in the after match christianity happened and everything in the bible are the events that transpired after ragnarok wiped the slates clean.

[@severalgeollosscreaming48]

I was trying to think, I thought in the 'Christianisation' sort of butchering of these pagan norse myths (it happened to both Norse & Celtic beliefs) said that Ragnarok did occur and that only Baldr & two humans survived, implying that he becomes/ was the Christian god. I don't remember if it happened in actually norse mythology,

[@thechatteringclown]

@@severalgeollosscreaming48 thing is we don't really have many texts from actual norse mythology, so all we have to go by are those christianitised myths, but you are indeed correct about your memory regarding those.

[@joegamergaming]

GLR: We're sick of Mythical Zoans! Oda: Mythical Logia Model: Golden Ichor

[@Aurora_29]

I don’t think the mother flame fruit could exist, because vegapunk said the fruits were made from desires centuries ago, and the mother flame was invented recently

[@Ashtarte3D]

It definitely could, but not as the Mother Flame as we know it. Like if Loki had a fruit to create Fusion that would certainly be something all powerful while also being something science related that Vegapunk sought to create.

[@basillah7650]

No vegapunk just made fake copies from the ancient kingdom even fake knock off devil fruit not invent anything just read a lot of books and remade stuff no different than learn how to make videos on youtube you not inventing anything

[@MartiniPistache]

Loki has the dog dog fruit model Chihuahua. He turns into the smallest dog ever but he sure is a fearsome foe

[@callumstewart6686]

What if someone in the One piece would theoretically “eat butt” would they acquire DF powers

[@liammomberg]

I think you're having a stroke

[@DataDietz]

You can say ate ass. Ate butt makes people think you're 12 years old on your mom's computer, typing quickly before she comes back from buying lotto scratchers

[@LiterallyAnythingg]

Funniest thing about this comment is that it’s edited. Like you really tried here bruh 😂

[@callumstewart6686]

@@LiterallyAnythingg dyslexic moments 👍😊

[@kvakq]

​​@@LiterallyAnythingg oh no someone edited their comment they must try really hard😮

[@Saitama.Opm0]

Liam Have A great Time !

[@MihailSmirnov-dw9qq]

You always know how to make a great video!

[@Johury]

As a kid I read a lot of Norse myths that felt like we live in a post Ragnarök world. Specifically I remember a picture in the end of one book showing Baldurs prophesied return after Ragnrök in a garden walking up to a man and a woman feeling very similar to bible genesis imagery. So the myths read kind of like a prequel to the bible. It’s worth noting that texts of the Norse myths that has survived were almost exclusively written down by Christians in Scandinavia to preserve their history. So most myths we hear and read now have already passed through a Christian filter.

[@francescomelis6703]

Didn't vegapunk say that he never saw the gomu gomu no mi in any encyclopaedia?

[@basillah7650]

cp9 ate two not listed as well so rubber fruit can turn up in future even if not here.

[@MemTMCR]

ok. Hear me out. Hair fruit.

[@racem4517]

loki is the next crew member.

[@TkKronic]

1:50 WHO?!?!?

[@ritiksingh6901]

Con-d-oriano, legendary marine?

[@YungGoo92]

You don't know? Shame.

[@TkKronic]

It was a joke going with the whole forgotten idea lol

[@detrix-8983]

I like Morj's theory that it's the Hito Hito No Mi model Elbaph, as in the warrior God that Dorry and Broggy worshipped on little garden

[@jalengaskin8450]

3:24 according to my light research, Ragnarök hasn’t happened yet. Aside from the fantastical things that will happen, there is at least one thing that needs to happen that we can see in the physical world: a three year winter, men waring against each other and the release of evil spirits

[@FurPeltKishin]

Since the ancient kingdom was so advanced, nuclear energy might have been common place way back 800 years ago. If we're going off the idea of Loki wielding the raw power of the sun, paramecia that turns Loki into a reactor that can fire off entire solar flares would be pretty fitting and unique. I'm assuming in One Piece it would take the form of a bunch of high power lasers and explosions like Godzilla style.

[@jurassicjuror]

Watch Loki actually be a reverse Big Mom, born a regular sized dude, then ate the Giant Giant Fruit model: Loki 😂😂😂

[@XangoFwet]

“We’re missing the Logia Antagonist” Akainu: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@augustljungberg1266]

There is some stuff from northern mythology I would love to see. - the nail ship -valkyries -Loki having a family of his own. - mimir. The well-thinking noggin

[@TheLuisMiranda]

12:25 I love this idea of giant rubber man 😂

[@xerokhan3239]

I saw a theory video on this, and it makes so much sense. Back in Little Garden, where we met Dorry and Bragi, they told us that they worship their God of War Elbaph. This deity is important enough in Giant culture as it is their top deity that is even above Nika. This prmonance makes me thing that the fruit Loki ate... Is the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Elbaph!

[@ahmedlahmid]

I think he has mythical fruit hati and skull the tow Wolfs who ate the sun and the moon

[@Nokoweeb]

Loki having the ACTUAL gomu gomu no mi is genius. Until the reveal, I'd go for this in my head canon >.>

[@hbfagen8793]

Something that seems to be skipped over is that it’s pretty clear Loki knows how DF reincarnates and while we always thought VP would tell us it seems left for this arc.

[@bearzerger]

I've been looking through sun myths in various cultures and noticed how it's quite common for myths to talk about how the sun is driven by a chariot across the sky. I've found atleast three. In greek mythology it's Helios the personified sun riding across the sky in a chariot, in germanic/norse mythology it's Sol I believe who drives the chariot of the sun as punishment for being named after the sun and in Hindu mythology it's Aruna driving a chariot carrying the personified sun Surya. What if Loki's power is related to said chariot? I could see the Chariot of the Sun being a paramecia fruit that aside from creating a massive chariot also has the power to control all kinds of flames. There could even be a connection to Joyboy/Nika if back in the void century or whenever Nika was around the chariot was Joyboy's/Nika's ship or rather vehicle. Luffy has the Sunny, Roger had the Oro Jackson and Joyboy/Nika was travelling in the Chariot of the Sun. The way the giants rever the sun god they would certainly call the fruit used by their giant ancestor to carry Nika in his chariot a legendary fruit. And depending on how much of the details of history have been lost Loki could easily believe that the chariot would make him the actual sun god. As for powers and visuals I'd say Loki fighting with Luffy in a crazy fast chariot burning with flames would be pretty epic especially if those flames were hot enough to destroy an island similar to one of the ancient weapons. Which it very well could do if the chariot was used to control a flame based logia user or Vegapunk's mother flame. And it would be something completely different from the many zoan and logia we've had recently.

[@kyubi78]

I think Loki's fruit will give him toon force powers similar to what Luffy uses. Maybe a paramicia but I'd be sad if the God of mischief didn't have a wacky cartoon fight with Luffy.

[@foul_ball7025]

I didn't think the legendary fruit could be the gum-gum fruit but I just realized, gomu is a danish loanword, and denmark is a part of scandinavia

[@gabrielgoes0]

It's a loan word in japanese? How did that happen?

[@MrBruhMan1746]

8:51 What is that ass covered in ropes fruit 💀

[@Izanna3]

Loki eating the ACTUAL Gomu Gomu no Mi is genius. I hope it's real

[@marcosvalenga9208]

Man, almost every single fruit becomes so incredible if used by a Giant, now imagine an actual legendary fruit? Loki is gonna go crazy in this arc

[@proflixx432]

What of Loki is the man marked by flames and the person who hides the final road ponegliff. As he is strong enough to hide the fruit yet not many know where he actually is located. Marked by flames could refer to him having the mother flame fruit suggested in this video. Or he could be associated with hell such as Garmr who is a wolf/dog who is associated with Hel and Ragnarok and who guards the gates of Hel, which foul be his devil fruit. Also meaning he is the final challenge to get to laughtale, the guard protecting the final gate (ponegliff). Therefore the only reason why Roger could find laughtale is because he was the only one strong enough to beat Loki and find the last ponegliff. Hence why no one else found the final ponegliff is because the only other pirates who could rival Roger was Whitebeard and he had no ambition to find Laughtale. Therefore the reason why no one has found it since Roger. Ofc this is just theory.

[@godcinimod]

The idea of a Mother Flame logia is very interesting because maybe its awakening could be linked to why the iron giant started moving 200 years ago

[@1TakoyakiStore]

Two things: 1) I'm getting similar vibes from Loki and what he did to his father, as I got from Blackbeard when he took Thatches fruit. There is heavy emphasis that the fruit was obtained by eating the prior user. 2) Until proven otherwise my favorite fruit idea is that Sun God is just a title for the king of Elbaph and that his actual devil devil fruit is a mythical zoan of a Nidhog, the dragon that threatens the death of the world tree. So it's not a fruit that can end the whole world, just a fruit that's specifically designed to kill the Giant's world, Yggdrasil.

[@AAKB111]

I dont think it is a Logia, because during Dressrosa Hajrudin said " have u seen a gaint that ate a logia devil fruit".

[@mokaljordan]

That line makes me think that Loki has a fire Logia even more now since its a red herring ppl would see as a matter of fact, it could be something oda can sneakily retcon or it would be ironic when he said that hajrudin didnt see Loki use the fruit/have no idea that the legendary devil fruit is a fire logia

[@jefftheevilpotato]

Here’s a little idea I came up with: What if in this arc with Loki, we challenge what exactly a mythical Zoan is, if the dragon fruit is a mythical zoan, but dragons exist, like in punk hazard, what’s the deal? What if mythical zoan fruits are mythical if they are not believed to be real, and so what if stories of this Loki figure have spread throughout the world, making myths out of him. What if Loki ate his own devil fruit?

[@MousaThe14]

I think Loki having the actual Gomu Gomu would be be best result. It would be the funniest twist and bring the whole sun god and Luffy’s original fruit thing full circle.

[@jpronan8757]

"gum gum actually made of rubber pistol" - Loki

[@Lordander1]

Us: Loki has this, Loki has that, I’m right, you’re wrong! Oda looking to his editor: hold my matcha cup! They all wrong!

[@vireshjain4618]

2 issues with Loki having eaten the actual Gomu Gomu no Mi- 1. Vegapunk already said no such fruit exists and Giants being isolated, might not have gotten updated information on any new fruits. So whatever knowledge the Giants have, Vegapunk has it too and some more. 2. Dorry ang Brogy might have said something when they met Straw Hats on Little Garden and also when they came to Egghead after seeing Luffy's Bounty Poster. These can be retconned like Elbaph king never left Elbaph so no known record of the King's Devil Fruit in any encyclopaedia and all information on it was lost in the Void Century. A switch between Nika Fruit and Gomu Fruit might have happened as far back as the Voud Century and therefore what Giants know is their version of Truth and therefore Loki ate a Legendary Fruit. Dorry and Broggy didn't know about Elbaph situation for a 100 years and when they did get to know about it, they knew Luffy had same powers and choose to take "lets think about later" attitude like Neptune with Tamate Box or they might have chosen "whatever goes on with the humans doesn't affect us" attitude they had on little Garden when they were explaining their life on that island.

[@bringbackcowchop]

I don't think he has the real rubber fruit, as much as people in reddit love to state it wouldn't fit his danger. I'm more of the belief he may have the same devil fruit that Rocks had or maybe he's something other than a devil fruit user hence the blindfold over his eyes along with the chains with the obsession with being Joyboy it'd be more appropriate if he could directly take control of someone's mind/body. It would make me believe that the prophecy that the mermaid made about Luffy destroying their country is true because it's actual Loki just going on a rampage in Luffy's body. But then again, this isn't JJK.

[@anime_enjoyer5507]

perfect! i just finish your other video in calm belt so im looking for another video and this get recommended to me by youtube.. youtube knows me best

[@TimEngertable]

Usually Oda is quite literally in his hints. So when Loki said he is the sun god, i think he ate the literal sun-sun fruit and he now is a logia user that can become the sun.