Banned Judo Techniques - The Infamous Kani Basami

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Grappler Kingdom

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@lancegoulet8100
@lancegoulet8100 4 ай бұрын
There are 2 ways to do this technique (neither are the "proper" way) that will both destroy uke's knee. One is to come in with the bottom leg low at about the ankle and the upper leg just above the knee. The other way is to jump butt first into uke's knee collapsing it inward, and usually tearing his ACL (sometimes also getting the MCL, PCL and meniscus in the process). It is a brutal technique that is rightfully banned. It was legal when I started in judo, and I did it in randori once. My coach lost it on me and made it very clear we do not use that technique at our club. I never did it again. The sad thing is there were some people who would use it as a desperation technique to try to injure their opponent if they were behind on the scoreboard. I am one of the old guys who doesn't agree with the IJF banning leg grabs, but I 100% supported the decision to ban this technique.
@neerajnongmaithem392
@neerajnongmaithem392 5 ай бұрын
Its a career ending, life alternating injury. Its like a submission but the opponent does even get the time to tap out. Even in mma, most submissions, the opponent gets the time to tap out. This move will breal multiple bones, ligaments and tendons in less then a sec.
@rhuarimclean133
@rhuarimclean133 3 ай бұрын
Unless your the mighty yamashita
@Kenpachi_White707
@Kenpachi_White707 Жыл бұрын
Theres a safe wrestling move version where you put your arm behind the leg rather then your leg. Usually done from a whizzer.
@Anonymous_Whisper
@Anonymous_Whisper Жыл бұрын
That's no gi judo 😁
@zachh127zh
@zachh127zh 6 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous_WhisperIt’s all just grappling at the end of the day.
@chaosdromanah8620
@chaosdromanah8620 Жыл бұрын
That final clip is one of my favorite moments in Pride
@sergemelekhin9417
@sergemelekhin9417 Жыл бұрын
о да , там болевой был фактически сфорирован ещё в процессе падения , даже не было нужды "дожимать" ахиллово сухожилие✌
@bope84
@bope84 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 👍
@Flomdcho
@Flomdcho 7 ай бұрын
Not just dangerous, take little skill to do and insanely hard to stop
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like an effective self defense option.
@IvanLabrie
@IvanLabrie 3 ай бұрын
@@sedollee7496 this...
@danielzuzevich4161
@danielzuzevich4161 2 ай бұрын
Well in the real world where people don't wear robes...mileage may vary.
@horse2667
@horse2667 Ай бұрын
@@danielzuzevich4161you don’t need a gi to do it tho look at 4:30
@danielzuzevich4161
@danielzuzevich4161 Ай бұрын
@@horse2667 lol. I'm just glad nobody in their right mind would ever do this at the gyms I've trained in. I can't believe what's going through that person's head when doing this move. Clearly they saw it somewhere, and most likely know how dangerous it is. Unreal
@Sporek
@Sporek 5 ай бұрын
I think this technique might be very useful in self defense, in some scenarios. I think is legal in MMA although I don't recall seeing one, but I don't watch MMA often.
@Evantailsacre
@Evantailsacre 4 ай бұрын
Anderson silva lost a match with it. Very rare tough
@kilteddwarf
@kilteddwarf Жыл бұрын
one of my favorites... and in our dojo, almost everyone shodan and higher was focusing on it for about half a year... really fun in casual randori, but i don't use it when we go more intense and start to block every time when able (normal randori we block, when the attempt was without much of a chance, but don't block attempts, that look like they would work)
@sunloon
@sunloon 5 ай бұрын
It's completely banned in our dojo with it only being taught as something to know for mastery but it's way too dangerous compared to everything else
@cdcaleo
@cdcaleo Жыл бұрын
I've used the move effectively many times in wrestling practice, and it is still legal in freestyle wrestling. In fact, the move was used at the Final X world team trials just a week ago. It didn't work, but it was used. I think the problem is with heavyweights. Lighter weights, having less muscle mass and density, can use the technique with no problem, but with really heavy guys there is too much pressure and weight, at least in judo.
@_penguin_9946
@_penguin_9946 2 ай бұрын
It’s not legal in wrestling at all not in Greco or Free it’s called a “cutback”.
@cdcaleo
@cdcaleo 2 ай бұрын
@@_penguin_9946 I've used it and watched it used live in international wrestling. Don't tell me it's not legal. I've watched wrestlers score with it.
@Anonymous_Whisper
@Anonymous_Whisper Жыл бұрын
Wow that was sad.. 😢 broken calf.
@Penfold4142
@Penfold4142 3 ай бұрын
Timing is essential. Also, your opponents balance has to be backward. The injuries occur when someone is trying to throw backwards when their opponents weight is forward.
@m5a1stuart83
@m5a1stuart83 Жыл бұрын
it is still used in Pencak Silat, they called it Guntingan.
@KeyserSoze23
@KeyserSoze23 5 ай бұрын
savages
@SAVAGEONE82
@SAVAGEONE82 Жыл бұрын
nightmare scissor knee press
@mariocas723
@mariocas723 3 ай бұрын
Típical pencak silat guntin... is very very usual in competition and no cries
@Anonymous_Whisper
@Anonymous_Whisper Жыл бұрын
3:32.. was risky.. he did almost caused an injury.. if they were heavier.
@anbernicguy
@anbernicguy 3 ай бұрын
Scissor takedown. This should be brought back to Judo.
@makkane5557
@makkane5557 4 ай бұрын
Damn calf breaker
@Shazali-ke4sd
@Shazali-ke4sd 5 ай бұрын
In our country's martial art competition a participant died after his head hit the floor using this technique...
@エポジンepozine
@エポジンepozine 6 ай бұрын
“KANIBASAMI(crab scissors)” was not a foul move in Japan at the time, and it was a surprise attack that Endo carefully thought out against Yamashita, so I don’t like to make Endo the bad guy.
@eclipsez0r
@eclipsez0r Жыл бұрын
Japanese hardcore warriors. Great respect
@fightingcrane5647
@fightingcrane5647 Жыл бұрын
It was an excellent throw guys. Injuries can occur with any throw, the reason is not that. In the pursuit of mass sports equipment everywhere is gradually simplified. When grappling by the pants was banned in judo - was it really because of injuries? it's just that some people didn't know how to use these grips - and envied those who did....
@JavierAlmeida-pd1ft
@JavierAlmeida-pd1ft 4 ай бұрын
Esa técnica la he visto con frecuencia en el fútbol sudamericano 😢😢
@raphaelhudson
@raphaelhudson 5 ай бұрын
The sambo/wrestling examples look so much safer, I guess because the lack of gi means there is less leverage to force it. Crazy they let people do this in judo for so long, I wonder total how many peoples legs and knees were destroyed this way
@ciscoshootsttv
@ciscoshootsttv 4 ай бұрын
Looks like a type of scissor sweep but goddamn i feel sorry for the guy in the beginning
@zigfridch
@zigfridch Жыл бұрын
Про обвив снимите ещё)))
@dejanlukic6323
@dejanlukic6323 Жыл бұрын
Dali su povrede ozbiljne?mene dosta lici na amatersku glumu
@КосулинНиколай
@КосулинНиколай Жыл бұрын
Сделайте ролик про Инала Тасоева, самый техничный дзюдоист в тяжёлом весе
@TearsoftheSun218
@TearsoftheSun218 Жыл бұрын
Popping the damn
@takizawa6565
@takizawa6565 Жыл бұрын
Y ou can make another video about forbidden techniques with similar music, it turns out very interesting
@GrapplerKingdom
@GrapplerKingdom Жыл бұрын
Yes, there will be more.
@sahruril
@sahruril 2 ай бұрын
In silat that moves still legal 😅😅😅
@lautheimpaler4686
@lautheimpaler4686 Жыл бұрын
drop toe hold
@andreac.2393
@andreac.2393 5 ай бұрын
È vero, erano tecniche pericolose però altamente spettacolari.
@celiopath
@celiopath Жыл бұрын
Cannabis Army
@sergemelekhin9417
@sergemelekhin9417 Жыл бұрын
вообще техника Дзю-До чрезвычайно опасна , если подойти к ней с точки зрения как истинно БОЕВОМУ ,т.е. смертоносному , навыку ,так по моему мнению сейчас учеников в додзё учат практически бережному , малотравмирующему отношению к сопернику , и на соревнованиях выделяют так называемые "грязные" приёмы , но на самом деле даже в невпечатляющем сторонних зрителей и даже спортсменов броске может скрываться смертельный потенциал ,который (как мне представляется был изначально заложен основателями , вынужденными жить в трудных условиях) заключается в "мелких" деталях , как , например : придержать рукой упором в подбородок голову соперника запрокинутой назад , что в фактически смертельно опасно даже при падении на татами. Всегда помните - это БОЕВЫЕ искусства
@ihatenuggets
@ihatenuggets 5 ай бұрын
That 4th one was actually clean af
@danny24042002
@danny24042002 5 ай бұрын
For all those who are saying MMA it's like real fight
@MrTooEarnestOnline
@MrTooEarnestOnline Жыл бұрын
It’s such a pretty technique. I wish they taught a competition safe version of it where the lower foot sweeps across the ground and far away from the knee joint.
@Anonymous_Whisper
@Anonymous_Whisper Жыл бұрын
It's the calf the lower part that does the damage...
@marcelnowakowski945
@marcelnowakowski945 8 ай бұрын
You wanna safe - go play tennis!
@lucperochaud8070
@lucperochaud8070 7 ай бұрын
Pas dangereux quand c'est bien fait.je l'ai souvent faite a une époque et je n'ai jamais blessé personne.par contre un débutant me l'a faite(mal) et j'y ai laissé une cheville
@AGP1303
@AGP1303 5 ай бұрын
Infamous..???... go complain to the Gigoro Kano. First create a martial art before complaining about another.
@luziox7197
@luziox7197 5 ай бұрын
???
@luziox7197
@luziox7197 5 ай бұрын
do you even know the definition of infamous
@AGP1303
@AGP1303 5 ай бұрын
@@luziox7197 having a reputation of the worst kind : notoriously evil. Someting like that...?
@luziox7197
@luziox7197 5 ай бұрын
@@AGP1303 Exactly the kani basami is notorious (has a bad reputation) for permanently damaging others without them being able to tap in time. Its literally so unneccessary.
@AGP1303
@AGP1303 5 ай бұрын
@@luziox7197 my friend, if man decided to transform the martial art judo into a sport, don't blame the original moves, they have nothing to do with it, they have their reason for existing. Can you understand this, or not...?
@willyhwang1059
@willyhwang1059 Жыл бұрын
normally i am not a fan of reducing judo repertoire but in this case i have to agree the movement is dangerous and looks UGLY anyways so good riddance.
@vanillaglue
@vanillaglue Жыл бұрын
SUB-F***ING -SCRIBED
@Sergiusz1551
@Sergiusz1551 5 ай бұрын
Zrobiłem tak kumplowi w wojsku na siłowni, materac cienki pod spodem beton, stracił przytomność na pół minuty, jak doszedł do siebie powiedział:" Szwajcar, ale zaj3bist3, weź mnie naucz':)
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