Greatest Heavyweights Pt1

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Paul England

Paul England

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@johnr8309
@johnr8309 5 жыл бұрын
Holmes talked about his win over Ali like age made no difference yet when discussing Mike Tyson he blamed his loss on age. Can't have it both ways Larry.
@TaoistSwordsman
@TaoistSwordsman 4 жыл бұрын
6:03 listen
@suffermatthew392
@suffermatthew392 3 жыл бұрын
He literally says that Ali was "over the hill" and he says multiple times in this video that he's biased and that's why he says he's no.1
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 💥🥊
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali greatest performance against Cleveland Williams in Nov 14 1966. Your telling me this man who survived and came back to fight, how dare you call diuretics in the same level as being shot with .357 magnum. Loosing a kidney, 3/4 small intestines & 60 lbs body weight.
@johnr8309
@johnr8309 2 жыл бұрын
@@clevelandwilliams5922 What is the fucking hell are you talking about???????????????????
@nicholasjohnson6724
@nicholasjohnson6724 4 жыл бұрын
Holmes went the distance, consistent, 20 title defences, after Ali. Very underrated.
@tobiesoftstudio823
@tobiesoftstudio823 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. However, he wasn't as exciting as other fighters. Other fighters, while maybe retired defeated, were far more exciting and entertaining to watch.
@RyanDurkin-ec8os
@RyanDurkin-ec8os Жыл бұрын
He was exciting compared to the crap heavyweights of today.
@TheWolf-rz4oz
@TheWolf-rz4oz 4 жыл бұрын
Watching those fights as a kid I never wanted Holmes to win but now seeing those fights as a an adult he was one of the greatest.
@seka1986
@seka1986 3 жыл бұрын
yeah me too.
@ritchski1
@ritchski1 8 жыл бұрын
I think I must be hearing things, Holmes was talking like his fight with Ali meant something, then goes on to dismiss his own fight with Tyson, need to get my ears cleaned
@johnburke8077
@johnburke8077 7 жыл бұрын
ritchski1 exactly, he didn’t beat Ali, he beat a guy who looked like Ali! If a prime Ali fought Holmes he’d completely out move and out box Holmes. The man was incredible!
@AdonaiZedek
@AdonaiZedek 5 жыл бұрын
Marciano averaged 40 years old in terms of the all time greats he faced
@johnburke8077
@johnburke8077 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry Larry, to put yourself at the top is ridiculous! The first man to stop Ali?!! Ali was a shell of himself when he fought Holmes! To say he out jabbed him in sparring means nothing. Ali at his peak in the mid 60’s was untouchable! Holmes didn’t have the fights Ali had Liston Patterson Williams Frazier Norton Foreman The man was and still is the greatest! In his prime he could have beaten any heavyweight in history.
@jasonbaber1526
@jasonbaber1526 6 жыл бұрын
John Burke we
@samfisher2306
@samfisher2306 5 жыл бұрын
That fight should've never happened imo
@kettlepower48
@kettlepower48 4 жыл бұрын
VictorLionsTV Simple really. He is Jealous of George.
@aiyahuntacheimumbi236
@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 4 жыл бұрын
He did fight Norton though.
@terribleTed-ln6cm
@terribleTed-ln6cm 4 жыл бұрын
Ali also fought Ron Lyle and Ernie Shavers and beat them both.
@WanderleiSilva29
@WanderleiSilva29 8 жыл бұрын
funny how Holmes dismisses the 2nd half of his career and says Tyson didn't fight the same Larry Holmes because he was older, but then doesn't give Ali the same pass when he beat on him..... You cant say Tyson only beat you because you were old and then with the same breath, pat yourself on the back for beating a 90 year parkinson Ali.....
@WanderleiSilva29
@WanderleiSilva29 8 жыл бұрын
Robert D more like a fan pointing out hypocrisy. I am not sure what Holyfield and Lewis have to do with Holmes talking about Tyson though..... but anyone who knows anything about boxing would tell you that both of them fought Tyson at the perfect time in his career.... Post Michael Spinks, the Tyson era was over..... Kevin Rooney is the man responsible for Tysons reign. Once Kevin was fired, Tyson went down the shitter. You could see the difference immediately after the Spinks fight, even though Tyson continued winning...... Holyfield also fought Tyson 1 year after he was released from a 4 year prison term! lol.... In todays boxing, 1 year out of the ring is considered "ring rust"..... Add another 3 years to that number!! lmao.... You honestly think Holyfield would have beaten Tyson anywhere up until 1988 when Rooney and Cus was in his corner? Were you even alive in the 80s?
@badsolja1
@badsolja1 8 жыл бұрын
Larry ignorant as hell
@rparker8761
@rparker8761 7 жыл бұрын
Fair point. Larry had the best jab in heavyweight history. And he used to box 15 round fights.
@jacquelinechambers8843
@jacquelinechambers8843 7 жыл бұрын
Holmes is so cocky and full of shit Tyson would have knocked him out in 1980 just like he did in 86 or 87 ! And there's a clip of a Holmes interview before his fight with holyfield where he says rocky Marciano couldn't cary his jock strap ! What a dusch
@Bacchus1983
@Bacchus1983 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinechambers8843 Tyson would've destroyed any version of Holmes.
@christopherblankley4793
@christopherblankley4793 9 жыл бұрын
Well Larry by your logic Tyson is greater than you!
@clubberlang589
@clubberlang589 4 жыл бұрын
Well Tyson should be in top 5 of heavyweight greats. His talent pool was so immense it was dazzling. Where Tyson failed was in his temper and mental focus. If he had the right team long enough. D’amato was there while Champion through early 90’s. Tyson would’ve been a different prodigy. But unfortunately it happened the way it did. But remember Holmes fought Holyfield and lost on a disputed decision. Tyson blew him out of the park.
@bruh_1627
@bruh_1627 4 жыл бұрын
@@clubberlang589 Although I don't agree with him being in the top 5, he's very easily in the top 10 imo. He never reached his true potential tho. And his win over Holmes is better than any win Lewis, Holyfield, Vitali, and Wlad have. Lennox and Holyfield's resumes may be a little deeper, but their very best wins aren't better than Tyson's win over Holmes. Even his win over Michael Spinks is very impressive. Spinks is a top 5 LHW, Olympic gold medalist, Ended Holmes' win streak in his HW debut, 31-0, and Tyson blew him out in 90 seconds.
@DrooledOn
@DrooledOn 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson is top 25 he didn’t have a long reign and he lost to Lennox and Holyfield who were in his era. Lennox>Tyson Lennox is top 10
@ctapuk3754
@ctapuk3754 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrooledOn Lennox Lewis was an oppotunist and nothing special, he beat Tyson 12yrs after Douglas had hammered him and 6yrs after Holyfield had beaten him.. Lewis avoided every heavyweight who was at the top of their game, choosing to fight bums instead. Tucker, Botha, Golota, Morrison -- all junkies & steroid freaks. Grant, Butler, Mavrovic, Fortune -- all bums class C fighters David Tua - the fattest man to ever fight for the Title. Akinwande, Briggs - pathetic McCall rematch -- McCall only days out of rehab (pathetic) Ruddock -- Damaged Goods after 2 brutal beatings from Tyson Lewis priced himself out of a fight with Bowe in 93 & 95 by demanding options on Bowes next 5 fights should Lewis lose. he turned down $12 million and a gauranteed title shot against Tyson in 96 stepping aside and selling his position to Holyfield for a meagre $3 million, he done so because he knew that he was a one round KO for that version of Mike Tyson
@cocotimbo
@cocotimbo 9 жыл бұрын
Holmes is so jealous and envious!
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319 9 жыл бұрын
+cocotimbo Nah just truthful.
@truthhitman7473
@truthhitman7473 7 жыл бұрын
No. He lost to Tyson........by KO
@realrhycethoughts3578
@realrhycethoughts3578 6 жыл бұрын
Holmes NEVER got the credit he deserves. 2nd best heavyweight ever behind Ali
@truthhitman7473
@truthhitman7473 6 жыл бұрын
I hear you... but that doesn't excuse him being jealous of Ali, who helped him and taught him a lot of things inside and outside the boxing ring. His whole style was based on Muhammad Ali's. The only difference was his jab was better than Ali's but he couldn't do what a prime Ali of 1966 could do.
@martinfraser1513
@martinfraser1513 6 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes was an incredible fighter one of tbe
@jeffbc
@jeffbc 11 жыл бұрын
Holmes - "Ali couldn't whoop me"....yeah Larry, Ali was well past his prime and had PARKINSONS when he fought you!!
@georgecrowcroft9260
@georgecrowcroft9260 5 жыл бұрын
They Sparred whilst Ali was close to prime, 71 onwards
@mandingodestroyer3104
@mandingodestroyer3104 2 жыл бұрын
Larry will always be in the shadow of The greatest Muhammad Ali .
@emailchb
@emailchb 9 жыл бұрын
Holmes is still delusional from the Tyson knockout.
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319 9 жыл бұрын
+emailchb Tyson knocked out a 38 year old Holmes right? Fucking overrated ass Tyson.
@sampayne3576
@sampayne3576 9 жыл бұрын
+Husabceuoa Cieabcueoa and Holmes wasn't?
@ottirichtsfeld5690
@ottirichtsfeld5690 7 жыл бұрын
emailchb bernt suger
@ottirichtsfeld5690
@ottirichtsfeld5690 7 жыл бұрын
emailchb bernt suger
@stevens5541
@stevens5541 7 жыл бұрын
Larry was 800 years old when Tyson fought him tho
@andrewharman787
@andrewharman787 5 жыл бұрын
Holmes is an all time great and technically excellent; a wonderful ring general. He is higher than 10 but he is certainly not top. He always had a bit of a chip on his shoulder.
@lampini
@lampini 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s fair for Holmes to be proud of stopping Ali in 1980. On top of being 38 he was showing signs of his Parkinson’s and was out of it after the first round. Also I think it’s a bit of hyperbole that Holmes beat Ali’s jab in the 1970s. Not too sure about that.
@jimmykarlsson2567
@jimmykarlsson2567 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Ali already showed signs of bad health in 1977 3 years earlier when he fought Shavers, with slow speech and all that. He should have retired after the last fight against Frazier in 1975, he had nothing more to proof, in my opinion
@markhemmingworthchannel338
@markhemmingworthchannel338 2 жыл бұрын
TOOK HIM 10 ROUNDS TOO LMAO
@mandingodestroyer3104
@mandingodestroyer3104 2 жыл бұрын
Ali in his prime woulda wooped Holmes .
@lampini
@lampini 2 жыл бұрын
@@donavonhoward1899 he absolutely should be but Ali was already suffering from Parkinson’s at the time. He was already a sick man. If I as Holmes I’d look back at the fight in a bitter sweet way because sure he beat Ali but he beat him at about 10% of what he was
@Daniboy0202
@Daniboy0202 11 жыл бұрын
Prime Ali would Destroy Holmes
@haroon00789
@haroon00789 3 жыл бұрын
right
@yaantsudnbesdai972
@yaantsudnbesdai972 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that prime Ali vs prime Holmes would be a close fight, clearly though Ali was the better heavyweight champ.
@1MillionSubscribers2025
@1MillionSubscribers2025 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say destroy. Larry Holmes although not as quick or as speedy with his jab, he did have a strategic mindset for a boxer. Essentially, he would take measure of his opponents’s rhythm and start fighting his foes a bit late. That was quite smart because he also adapted Ali’s footwork and jab. But on the other hand, Ali himself was literally the fastest fighter both on feet and by punch. But he wasn’t exactly scientific with his fighting style because he had trouble with short swarmers and underdogs that had similar fighting styles. Also he couldn’t avoid left books and lost 2/3 with his fight against Norton. I’d say if they fought at their respective primes, Ali would win by points ‘barely’ by an unanimous decision. 5 out of 3 fights, Holmes should win around 2.5-3 on average. Ali around 3-3.5 with high difficulty.
@haroon00789
@haroon00789 3 жыл бұрын
@@1MillionSubscribers2025 but against norton ali lost 1 fight not 2??
@deanmroberts4335
@deanmroberts4335 11 жыл бұрын
Bert Sugar is a classic. I don't think there ever was a better boxing historian. Rest in peace Bert........
@johnvandenheuvel6792
@johnvandenheuvel6792 8 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes is a joke for even bringing up the fight with Ali.
@lasheemrichardson9283
@lasheemrichardson9283 8 жыл бұрын
John van den Heuvel he really believe he beat a prime ali
@johnvandenheuvel6792
@johnvandenheuvel6792 8 жыл бұрын
He's kidding himself and he knows it
@johnvandenheuvel6792
@johnvandenheuvel6792 7 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes is delusional.
@johnburke8077
@johnburke8077 7 жыл бұрын
Prime Ali would’ve battered Holmes. He was fucked when he fought Holmes and Holmes still couldn’t knock him out!
@traustitraustason982
@traustitraustason982 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right Ali had bad parkinson when he fought Larry every body knows that
@whatitisnt8270
@whatitisnt8270 4 жыл бұрын
Holmes is one of the greatest of all time. in my book number two all time. only behind Ali.
@mazzbalboa
@mazzbalboa 10 жыл бұрын
So Larry by 73 you was matching Ali jab and by 75 you was beating Ali jab. So lets rewind to 67with Ali in his prime by your own admission Ali would have been faster, never mind the combos and foot speed.....wake up Larry, you was great but Ali was the best.
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 10 жыл бұрын
hes higher than 10 though and he mentioned that he use to always spar with ali, therefore he knew alis weaknesses and he would exploit them . I always say never fight a guy you sparred with . I think holmes would give ali all types of problems at any point prime or not . you could say was passed his prime ,but that's because ali never adjusted once his athletic gifts were gone . Hate to say it but ali had no plan B. his bad habits were exposed now . he couldn't just dance his way out of this shit . that being said , he was a great fighter with a great resume ,but I think it would have been a coin flip against holmes .
@lotanddaughters
@lotanddaughters 10 жыл бұрын
Bert Sugar says Larry Holmes is #10, and Larry Holmes says he's #1. I say, Larry Holmes' opinion is more accurate. 1. Joe Louis 2. Larry Holmes
@mazzbalboa
@mazzbalboa 10 жыл бұрын
lotanddaughters so many great fighters down the years. Joe Louis was the most accurate big puncher I've ever seen, usually 9 out of 10 punches landed on the button.
@mazzbalboa
@mazzbalboa 10 жыл бұрын
lotanddaughters so many great fighters down the years. Joe Louis was the most accurate big puncher I've ever seen, usually 9 out of 10 punches landed on the button.
@mazzbalboa
@mazzbalboa 10 жыл бұрын
lotanddaughters so many great fighters down the years. Joe Louis was the most accurate big puncher I've ever seen, usually 9 out of 10 punches landed on the button.
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 6 жыл бұрын
IMO no way i see Holmes outpointing a prime Ali. Yes Holmes also had good speed but like Ali said, it don't mean nothing if you can't find nothing to hit
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
The Ali who beat foreman would have beaten Holmes. Holmes thinking he beat a good Ali is ridiculous.
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 2 жыл бұрын
@@donavonhoward1899 Ali might have been at prime age at 29 when he fought Frazier the first time, but he wasn't at his best that night, still lots of ring rust as evident in the Bonavina fight shortly before it, plus Ali played too much in that first fight, he just wasn't at his best. IMO Ali at his best could've beaten any heavyweight in history convincingly.
@jerven200
@jerven200 11 жыл бұрын
To hear Holmes saying he stopped Ali in 1980 is truly amazing.Ali was finished as a fighter.He had Parkinson sympthoms.He was slow,no power and was using medicinbe to get down his weight..He was a shell of what he used to be.Ali in his prime, 64-67 was much better than Holmes.Ali from 1970-74 was also better than Holmes in his prime.Much smarter than Holmes and much tougher.That Holmes even compare himself to Ali is amazing.Holmes should know that he aint close to Ali,,
@johnburke8077
@johnburke8077 7 жыл бұрын
jerven200 plus the fact Ali had a medical before the Holmes fight and struggled to touch the tip of his nose and hop on one leg! Ali in his prime would have completely outboxed Holmes. I put his prime at around 1967, just before he was robbed of his title. At that stage no one would have beat him.
@tennesseekayakd255
@tennesseekayakd255 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that’s Larry Holmes fault. Had you been around then you would’ve discredit him also. He beat Ali like a drum could’ve finished him at anytime you’re lucky Larry Holmes was a good man. He lost the title at 38 just like all he did but nobody is complaining about how Mike Tyson beat an old Larry Holmes who was slow with no power and also using medicine to get down to his weight
@mandingodestroyer3104
@mandingodestroyer3104 2 жыл бұрын
@@tennesseekayakd255 So you are saying Holmes didn’t beat on Ali and wanted to knock him down ! Come on man he tried but Ali was stubborn and Holmes knew that . Ali could talking a licking . Ali in the first round hit Holmes of couple of good shots . Larry has alway been bitter that nobody cared that he beat Ali ..for everyone it’s was a sad day . I saw my father cry for the first time after the fight .
@tennesseekayakd255
@tennesseekayakd255 2 жыл бұрын
@@mandingodestroyer3104 Holmes could have killed him had he wanted to. Get a clue. Holmes didn’t go 50-0 because of a bad decision. He deserves the credit all time
@mandingodestroyer3104
@mandingodestroyer3104 2 жыл бұрын
@@tennesseekayakd255 whatever! Dream on ! Larry fought all the fighters Ali fought but guess what ? They were old and Holmes wasn’t challenged. Imagine a Larry Holmes fighting a prime Joe Frazier or Ken Norton not to mention Big George who woulda knocked him out 4-5 times woulda destroyed him easy . Don’t compare Larry to Ali .
@nickystyles868
@nickystyles868 6 жыл бұрын
Just want to say thanks for uploading the entire show. Really enjoyed it, so thanks a lot mate. RE: the List - im glad Bert clarifies the criteria and how the top ten were chosen. This somewhat justifies Tyson not being in there, though I do feel the general consensus is that Iron Mike most certainly deserves a place in the top 5 (at least) and had it not been for done bad business decisions, who knows, maybe he would be regarded as the GOAT.
@keysersoze3618
@keysersoze3618 6 жыл бұрын
Why would Tyson be in there who did he ever beat?best name on his record is a washed up Holmes.glorified bully who looked for a way out when he couldn't intimidate his opponent.most overrated heavyweight of all time
@barrykime5580
@barrykime5580 2 жыл бұрын
Ray Leonard and Ali. There is the goats.
@mahmoudkhater4794
@mahmoudkhater4794 6 жыл бұрын
Ali in his prime he for sure win you in first round
@swedishtysonfan
@swedishtysonfan 12 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis #1, Holmes at #3,4 or 5-he was that great!!
@supernova09100
@supernova09100 11 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload been looking everywhere for this
@smoothhumble2547
@smoothhumble2547 8 жыл бұрын
if there's anyone overrated, its Larry Holmes, his era was weak, he copied Ali yet belittling him anytime the opportunity presents itself thinking that will make him bigger, every sane person knows Larry beat an old, sick, sorry Ali, i would be ashamed to brag about that fight if i were Larry, besides a light heavyweight Michael spinks beat him twice out of the title, a sick 38 year old Ali was on his feet enduring ten rounds of pounding but a healthy 38 year old Holmes couldn't last four with Tyson, deal with that Larry, Ali was never k o'd.
@georgecrowcroft9260
@georgecrowcroft9260 5 жыл бұрын
In fairness the Ali that lost to Holmes, would've lost to Tyson in 4 as well
@yaantsudnbesdai972
@yaantsudnbesdai972 3 жыл бұрын
I believe and still do that Holmes is UNDERRATED. He's #9 on my top 10 heavyweights of all time. He was fighting into his early 50s or so and still looked like he had 85% of his skills...
@mandingodestroyer3104
@mandingodestroyer3104 2 жыл бұрын
Man makes me cringe 😬 every time he fkn opens his yap !
@morrnmanderson7376
@morrnmanderson7376 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgecrowcroft9260 That Ali wouldnt have made it out of round 1.
@morrnmanderson7376
@morrnmanderson7376 2 жыл бұрын
Holmes was put in a no win situation tho. If he didnt fight Ali, everyone wouldve said Larry was scared of Ali and couldnt beat him. Ali was also his friend and NEEDED that $9 million. If Larry fought Ali and lost, they wouldve said Larry was never nothing to begin with. If he beat Ali, then he beat up an old man. Then later they would have added sick too. What was he gonna do? People need to stop with that bullsh*t. Larry Holmes was one of the greatest. He fought whoever was there to fight. He was champ and defended it 20 times. He took Shavers best, and got back up. Twice. Then finished him.
@franky01ize
@franky01ize 6 жыл бұрын
Holmes lost my respect when he said "I stopped Ali ".
@georgecrowcroft9260
@georgecrowcroft9260 5 жыл бұрын
He lost any more when he said Ernie Shavers was a champion
@AdGOne
@AdGOne 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgecrowcroft9260 Shavers is a champion. not a great boxer but how powerfull he was... Ali and Holmes couldn't be more agree on that
@georgecrowcroft9260
@georgecrowcroft9260 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdGOne he never won the championship He was never a champion
@AdGOne
@AdGOne 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgecrowcroft9260 yes he never was a real champion of thf world but still a great boxer who will be remember
@gringobronx7670
@gringobronx7670 4 жыл бұрын
Well????? He did
@chinfuzzchet3616
@chinfuzzchet3616 4 жыл бұрын
This whole series should be aired during the pandemic!! Easily the best series of ESPN!
@redbaron932
@redbaron932 12 жыл бұрын
thanks for putting this up
@terribleTed-ln6cm
@terribleTed-ln6cm 4 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Ali's prime year's were stolen from him when they stripped him from his title.
@hcohic9884
@hcohic9884 5 жыл бұрын
def top 3 heavyweight of all time
@kuriaki71
@kuriaki71 12 жыл бұрын
Ali was sick when he fought Holmes its a fact
@MrCalidan69
@MrCalidan69 8 жыл бұрын
Larry is in the top 5 with Tyson, Ali, Lennox and Joe Luis IMHO
@ericbrufatto5371
@ericbrufatto5371 8 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis, are you for real???
@11Ninety4
@11Ninety4 5 жыл бұрын
Only if Ali was younger when he fought Holmes. Ali would of whooped him
@nouajicherif3761
@nouajicherif3761 9 жыл бұрын
who teached him how to double left jab right hand on the top?
@brianwalker8147
@brianwalker8147 7 жыл бұрын
Holmes always an honest man in a dishonest bussiness.Great fighter in any era!
@jerven200
@jerven200 11 жыл бұрын
Holmes was in his prime in 1980 when he fought Ali.Ali was finished but still he went 10 rounds.Go figure what Ali would have done if he was in the same shape as he was in 1974 aginst Forman.Ali was not in his prime against Forman but still he beat Forman rather easy by being smart,tough and brave and he had enough skills and speed left to deal with Forman in his prime.Ali beat this great champion in his prime when he in fact was behind his prime.He lost his prime years between 67-70-71 but he build his legazy in his secound reign as heavyweight champion and contender..
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. No way would Holmes have beat a 1974 Ali. Ali always figured out a way, instinctively, to fight each guy. He was a genius. 💥🥊
@Priceluked
@Priceluked Жыл бұрын
Really old comment to reply to but prime for prime there's an argument over a Holmes vs Ali match, but the Ali who came back after the 3 year layoff would never beat a prime Holmes. He wouldn't be finished but he would get outpointed 100%.
@jeffriessman9693
@jeffriessman9693 Жыл бұрын
@Priceluked I think just the opposite. Ali in the seventies was still quicker than homes in his prime. Ali's jab was much quicker even though homes had more power. Ali was too smart, had too much strategy and Could change them on a dime. Ali was too smart to lose Ali took some shots at times in the fight with homes. There were times where holmes was trying to hurt ali in that match not all of it. But at times. Ali could take those hits, and didn't get knocked out. That was prime homes against to parkinson's almost dead ALI. Ali couldn't touch his nose before the fight. Surprise he didn't die. Holmes did not go all out on that fight. But there's times where he did put together A combination of hard punches and ali took them
@tustari
@tustari 11 жыл бұрын
Prime Ali would have smashed Larry any day of the week. Marciano, Louis, Jersey Joe, Tyson, would have knocked him out any day as well. You need to shut that mouth Larry
@paulbarrett7797
@paulbarrett7797 11 жыл бұрын
Ernie Shavers said Holmes was the best fighter he fought, better than Ali. Its on you tube. You really have got to get over the Ali beating.
@rideon77
@rideon77 9 жыл бұрын
Paul Barrett Shavers fought a really old and washed up version of Alì.
@andrelebaron
@andrelebaron 7 жыл бұрын
Larry was picking off Ali's jabs a long time before he actually beat Ali. There's a great interview where he talks about their sparring sessions with Ali present. Ali was pissed but I thnk he was right. Marciano was too small for Larry and would have ended up like Leon Spinks. Tyson would have been tough because he could get in low and try and get past that jab but I think in the end he gets the buster douglas treatment times two.
@conorwreckoner
@conorwreckoner 7 жыл бұрын
Stfu you stupid bitch
@boxerwayne6660
@boxerwayne6660 6 жыл бұрын
Ali prior to being stripped will whup Ali left right and centre
@Heavyweight-kh8ss
@Heavyweight-kh8ss 3 жыл бұрын
Legacy Top 5: 1- Louis 2- Ali 3- Holmes 4- Jack J. 5- Marciano Top 5 Prime 4 Prime: 1- Tyson 2- Ali 3- Marciano 4- Lennox 5- Holmes
@godfather53
@godfather53 3 жыл бұрын
Marciano and Jack Johnson shouldn't be top 5 regarding greatness. Marciano only fought bums or very old washed greats, good record but very weak resume. Jack Johnson had a great impact but also to weak resume to be in top 5. Joe Luis has great accomplishments but also doesn't have the resume quality or impact to compete with Ali. Lennox Lewis has the 2nd best resume after Ali and should be top 3. Marciano had terrible boxing skills and wouldn't stand a chance against 95% of the hw champs in history, imo he's nowhere near top 20 best hw Top 5 greatest hws 1. Ali 2. Joe Luis 3. Lennox Lewis 4. Foreman 5. Gene Tunney/Holmes Top 5 best hws 1. Ali 2. Tyson/Bowe 3. Liston 4. Holmes 5. Lennox Lewis
@strictlycomments
@strictlycomments 11 жыл бұрын
People today - the people who weren't born yet, or old enough to know what the reality of Ali was back then - don't realize that Ali was actually considered "washed up" after his loss to Frazier. He never was close to being the same after the 3 yr layoff. None of his fights were impressive before Foreman; he didn't have the speed, didn't have the stamina, and didn't have the movement. His victory over psyched out Foreman, is what put him back on the map, bringing him back from near obscurity .
@thenobleone-3384
@thenobleone-3384 3 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes had a tough jab I give him credit he didn't lose a fight till he was 36 yrs of age
@sandrafernandez1594
@sandrafernandez1594 6 жыл бұрын
Holmes was awesome, and in his prime he could have handled anyone, didn’t appreciate him growing up and he has no personality but man what a beast in the ring.
@zibtihaj3213
@zibtihaj3213 11 жыл бұрын
Sparring for Ali was always a workout etc and not all out war like some other fighters (Tyson etc). I know people who sparred him in the 70s and they all said that. Well two guys I knew...
@mikecesa7919
@mikecesa7919 11 жыл бұрын
Any champion is capable of anything on any given day. Mix it up and anything can happen. They are all dangerous and can win or lose!
@thenobleone-3384
@thenobleone-3384 3 жыл бұрын
My guy Bert Sugar very knowledgeable.
@FijneWIET
@FijneWIET 13 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading, one suggestion: why no playlist to easily watch all parts
@paweng1
@paweng1 13 жыл бұрын
I`d have Larry higher than 10. Top 5.
@boxingmonthly
@boxingmonthly Жыл бұрын
Top 3 for me
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
Larry has NO RIGHT to count his ‘win’ over Ali as a normal win. Nor berbick either. Ali was ILL when he fought those two. And they STILL couldn’t knock him out.
@holmes1978
@holmes1978 12 жыл бұрын
Holmes # 1 !!!
@supremeleader3401
@supremeleader3401 12 жыл бұрын
crazy
@cookedit
@cookedit 9 жыл бұрын
Bert Randolph Sugar: A great in his own right.
@Russzc13
@Russzc13 9 жыл бұрын
true that
@sashasarronen6300
@sashasarronen6300 8 жыл бұрын
Bert sugar doesn't know shit about boxing.
@kuriakilee8003
@kuriakilee8003 11 жыл бұрын
Why would Holmes brag about beating Ali in 1980????
@AdGOne
@AdGOne 5 жыл бұрын
Holmes is way underrated
@Gramatan3000
@Gramatan3000 12 жыл бұрын
Frasier and Norton gave a prime Ali his hardest fights... he fought both 3 times. Compare that tgo Holmes who only gave Shavers a rematch. Shavers up until the knockdown was considered an easy opponent as Holmes won their first fight by a 12 round shutout. Yet Norton, who came a hair from beating Holmes was made to fight Shavers. Smart Management on Holmes part. Style make fights. They knew Norton would lose to Shavers, but would still be a tough cookie for they fighter to beat.
@Slem7
@Slem7 3 жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano is the Greatest 🥊🥊🥊❤
@godfather53
@godfather53 3 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Only fought bums or very old washed greats. Good record but a terrible resume quality
@godfather53
@godfather53 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slem7 Been boxing for over 20 years, watched the sport for over 30 years. He had indeed great power, mentality and stamina. However his boxing skills were terrible and would’ve got schooled by way better skilled boxers like Ali, Bowe, Tyson, Liston, Lennox Lewis, Holmes, Foreman, Joe Luis(prime), Walcott(prime), Frazier, Norton, Holyfield and Fury
@godfather53
@godfather53 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slem7 You've already admitted you just lost, keep praising the by far most overrated hw ever lol
@kingdomofanimaria
@kingdomofanimaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@godfather53 who wins prime Ali or prime Holyfield I agree with you on Marciano he admitted himself he was short and had a tiny reach and couldn’t deal with an old past prime Louis but he had tremendous heart and stamina
@godfather53
@godfather53 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingdomofanimaria Holyfield is the overall way better boxer, but Ali had with prime Roy Jones jr second to none physical attributes in his prime. I can see this fight go both ways tbh
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
I lost respect for Holmes when he said Rocky Marciano wouldn’t be fit to carry his jock strap. About a dead Marciano who was unbeaten in 49 fights and who Larry was bitter because he didn’t beat Marciano’s record. Larry is an all time great, but he’s in a fantasy world thinking he had a win against a bodily and mentally fit to fight Ali.
@tonyd7601
@tonyd7601 4 жыл бұрын
Holmes makes a great point. He has a claim. He made a ton of money and is still lucid as an old man.
@kettlepower48
@kettlepower48 4 жыл бұрын
Holmes is top 5 for sure.
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319 9 жыл бұрын
Holmes got that Mayweather treatment back than.
@funkyflights
@funkyflights 12 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Larry was a dam good fighter... I think Ali in his prime though would a gotten to him... But Larry was crafty and he did have that sweet jab that could a matched Ali... sometimes it's all about the match-up and the style... It would a been one helluva fight seeing both of them in there prime going at it...
@altair227
@altair227 12 жыл бұрын
yeah i know but even a prime holmes cant stand toe to toe with a prime tyson it was only a matter of time before tyson knoucks him down for good!!!
@strictlycomments
@strictlycomments 11 жыл бұрын
(Cont.) The reality is; that Holmes didn't beat a shell of the great Ali, he beat a shell of the "washed up" Ali. On top of this, Ali was later learned to have been brain-damaged, dehydrated (from diet pills), and suffering from kidney ailments the night of their fight. It's hard to believe that Holmes would proclaim greatness for his win over the man at that stage. Then even consider that he was unimpressive in his win;Ali appeared his equal in the early rnds & was never knocked off his feet.
@muhammadkabiri7102
@muhammadkabiri7102 5 жыл бұрын
Larry is one of the greatest i put him at number 3 after ali and joe louis
@jamesnadell1998
@jamesnadell1998 Жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes was a great fighter. Big heart and very skilled. I wonder what he would have done vs. Foreman and Frazier?
@lemaxmas
@lemaxmas 11 жыл бұрын
Ali also had developed a thyroid condition at the time which can weaken a man seriously.
@anz2441
@anz2441 6 жыл бұрын
Holmes was unbelievable talent...like most fighters...the things that come outta his mouth are laughable at times...but Holmes was a great fighter and Champion !
@lucky44124
@lucky44124 13 жыл бұрын
@paweng1 Yeah he is a Top 5 Heavyweight of all time. I think #1 - but #5 is fine... Bert Sugar is crazy putting him at #10.
@whatitisnt8270
@whatitisnt8270 5 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes is number 2 all time only behind the greatest
@rommel1461
@rommel1461 11 жыл бұрын
Holmes is not close to the Top 10. No way. End of story.
@bbkingwasthegreatest711
@bbkingwasthegreatest711 10 жыл бұрын
maybe Ali, Louis, Lewis, Holmes, Foreman as a top five.
@CoronaJoe
@CoronaJoe 10 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I have (see my tired old video..lol)...in a slighty different order...
@Frostykid94
@Frostykid94 4 жыл бұрын
I rate him still at the top 10 today, yes, he got overlooked, but he did clean up the division. He is a very good boxer too, I'll rate him better than most behind Ali, but Prime vs. Prime it will be close.
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 but he didn't clean out the div,he was never undisputed, wbc then ibf champ
@VAHOSS
@VAHOSS 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when Holmes takes credit for the Ali victory, but putting that aside he does deserve to be further down the list. He should definitely be in front of Marciano, Frazier and Tyson. All of Marciano's notable wins were past their prime
@hmldjr
@hmldjr 6 жыл бұрын
Norton beat him in their fight. How come there was no rematch?
@williamcox8337
@williamcox8337 6 жыл бұрын
henry dicarlo there was and Ali won
@peterbade5799
@peterbade5799 3 жыл бұрын
1 . Muhammad Ali 2 . George Foreman 3 . Joe Louis 4 . Sonny Liston 5 . Mike Tyson 6 . Rocky Marciano 7. Lennox Lewis 8. Joe Farzier 9.Jack Dempsey 10 .Evander Holyfield 👍👍👍
@bjorkbackaNorre
@bjorkbackaNorre 8 жыл бұрын
larry is not in a shadow of no one. the reason people dislike him just because of that. sitting there saying he is the number one. and also have the nerv to take credit for beating ali. how lame is that really. people dislike him because his saying those things. i would understand it if he was active and said it. at that point he is retired , and still saying those things. if he would be genuine and honest in how it really was. people would accept him. simple is that
@robertoday7526
@robertoday7526 8 жыл бұрын
bob B great point
@badsolja1
@badsolja1 6 жыл бұрын
Ever saw Tyson bragging about beating Holmes ? In his mind he said Holmes old I don’t wanna be that guy Holmes was that guy What even more worse he knew Ali from early 70’s Can’t he notice how late 70’s ali speech became more slower Even Leon spinks who fought ali 2 years earlier never bragged about beating Ali Larry is just dumb and ignorant Ali went to distance with angelstia and he didn’t. But he forgot younger Earnie Shavers couldn’t put old ali down And 4 years Later he knocked him down
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 10 ай бұрын
Larry Holmes could keep his mouth shut and say nothing, still their will be the haters.
@tomahawk238
@tomahawk238 4 жыл бұрын
Larry is number 4 for me behind Ali, Louis, and Marciano
@midnighttrucker19
@midnighttrucker19 4 жыл бұрын
Louis and Marciano? Larry would tko both of those guys
@tomahawk238
@tomahawk238 4 жыл бұрын
Ron Miles joe Louis resume is way better. Marciano and Larry are close
@midnighttrucker19
@midnighttrucker19 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomahawk238 Louis's bum of the month club tho? Larry beat Shavers twice, Beat Norton, beat Berwick, Cooney, Ray Mercer, got cheated on the Spinks fight, close fight with Holyfield too
@tomahawk238
@tomahawk238 4 жыл бұрын
Ron Miles ok? Joe Louis beat Schmeling, Baer, Carnera, Braddock, Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott, etc longest lineal heavy weight champ, most HW title defenses, etc
@FijneWIET
@FijneWIET 12 жыл бұрын
Larry's place in boxing history is quite similar to Marciano's. Marciano defeated elderly legends... Rocky was the interim "champion" in the period after Louis and before Liston/Ali/... Holmes-Ali was Marciano-Louis all over again... And Larry was the new interim, past Ali and before Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis
@davidspath5810
@davidspath5810 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis
@dannyburch2122
@dannyburch2122 6 жыл бұрын
Holmes 1 quipped Marciano couldn't carry his jock strap but he would have bashed a hole right through it
@jimblomqvist3055
@jimblomqvist3055 5 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes at number 10!?😮 That’s waaay too low! Top 3 in my book!👊🏻
@hamzanazeer6462
@hamzanazeer6462 5 жыл бұрын
Well your book sucks.
@Gramatan3000
@Gramatan3000 12 жыл бұрын
His only rematch... remember in their first firt Holmes won via 12 round shutout. In their rematch Holmes loss only 2 rounds which included the knockdown.
@itahir02
@itahir02 4 жыл бұрын
Larry takes credit of beating Turned off, almost sick Ali who was just shadow of prime Ali!! Ali is the greatest of all time!!
@paweng1
@paweng1 13 жыл бұрын
Did you mean your top 10 white heavyweights, lol? I think the Klitschkos` with Marciano are the best white heavyweights ever, with Dempsey & Tunney close behind. They`re all behind Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Frazier, Lewis and Louis for me though.
@paweng1
@paweng1 12 жыл бұрын
How did he lose to Tim Witherspoon, Bonecrusher Smith, Mike Tyson twice and Lennox Lewis?
@SimpleManGuitars1973
@SimpleManGuitars1973 6 ай бұрын
Holmes has admitted that he literally cried after he beat Ali. He knows Ali was greater than him.
@harrykadaras9459
@harrykadaras9459 3 жыл бұрын
These guys won't let Larry talk...they keep interrupting him.
@michaeljames4057
@michaeljames4057 6 жыл бұрын
Ali was easily the greatest, we didn't even see Ali at his best, 27,28,29, we saw a Ali without legs in the 70's, who had hands faster than Robinson, courage and a durability that should be written about constantly, his fight with Shavers, while way over the hill should seal the deal, whereas Holmes, Norton etc went down on Shavers bombs, Ali just took them, out on his feet still throwing, glassy eyed, could barely stand was still throwing, if the fight went 16 Ali would have got him, THAT makes Ali the best, think all those fights and no scars, indentations, nothing, so a Tyson or anyone else first IF they could get to him would never be able to put together enough leather to take him out. One last thing, with Ali he fought up to his opponent, so if he fought an average fighter he didn't train hard and did just enough to win, fighting a better fighter, IE Foreman, look how accurate and fast his shots were, but since his opponents were good it was hard to see how superior he was, the Cleveland Williams fight probably best example. Zora Folley, the 34 year old veteran who fought everyone said after "Ali is the bible of boxing, and you had better read it before fighting him, this guy can't be beat"
@karenhardy1759
@karenhardy1759 10 ай бұрын
1. Muhammad Ali 2.lennox lewis 3. Evander holyfield 4. George Foreman 5.larry Holmes 6.riddick bowe 7.sonny Liston 8.mike Tyson 9. Rocky Marciano 10.joe Louis
@sciwater1642
@sciwater1642 2 жыл бұрын
This is credible individual
@lucky44124
@lucky44124 13 жыл бұрын
#1 in the ring was Larry Holmes. ignore the "pro wrestling" gimmick, the reporters over hyping who they liked. Holmes was the best... he had it all!
@Gramatan3000
@Gramatan3000 12 жыл бұрын
Then we would have missed Ali-Fraiser, Ali Norton, Leonard-Herns.
@juale9653
@juale9653 6 жыл бұрын
M A R C I A N O
@KekoZeskende
@KekoZeskende 8 жыл бұрын
1.Ali 2.Louis 3.Dempsey 4.Marciano 5.Tunney 6.Johnson 7.Holmes 8.Foreman 9.Frazier 10.Tyson 11.Lewis
@jadenippersiel912
@jadenippersiel912 2 жыл бұрын
1. Ali 2. Tyson 3.Lewis 4. Holmes 5. Holyfield 6. Liston
@stephanM5
@stephanM5 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they would have Larry Holmes present and then talk critically about him. Larry was indeed one of the best heavyweights ever.
@kingrobthegreat7446
@kingrobthegreat7446 3 жыл бұрын
1 Ali 2 Foreman 3 J Louis 4 Holmes 5 L Lewis 6 Johnson 7 Holyfield 8 Tyson 9 Frazier 10 Rocky
@antoinepleasant9806
@antoinepleasant9806 12 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes was young asfuck fighting ali who couldnt even stand up straight in there fight. Holmes was fighting old ass boxers!!!!!!
@ymmij388
@ymmij388 2 жыл бұрын
#1 Holmes #2 Lewis #3 Ali #4 Holyfield
@ArminKhanpour
@ArminKhanpour 12 жыл бұрын
oh wow, u stopped muhammad ali huh??? yea definately, its not like ali was 38 years old or anything...
@paweng1
@paweng1 11 жыл бұрын
Larry was 36, he wasn`t awarded the decision twice.
@SiirRandom
@SiirRandom 12 жыл бұрын
no one compares to prime mike tyson.
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