Teddy Atlas: Call Me a Hater! George Foreman is Greater Than Mike Tyson (Part 11)

[@brians1481]

Max Kellerman once said something to the effect of ‘If you could combine the physical abilities of the 1970s George Foreman with the mind of the 1990s George Foreman, you’d have the greatest heavyweight of all time.”

[@zibtihaj3213]

Yeah but that is hypothetical… what ifs etc etc

[@elrifle24]

@@zibtihaj3213no it isn’t. He came back at 40 years old and won the belt again. He’s up there with the best ever.

[@KingKidGoku32794]

Max Kellerman knows boxing he knows what he's talking about

[@zibtihaj3213]

I never said he is not

[@zibtihaj3213]

Yeah but that is like he is saying..... if “ cus Dmato was alive , Tyson would have been this or that “, if “ Ali did not have the 3 years off, Frazier would not exist “ if this and if that and list goes on and on … what-ifs are endless …. History is what really was …not what could have been

[@SantiagoTwelvePack]

I’ve known this story for decades but never heard it so eloquently told. Well done Mr. Atlas.

[@BoxingLegends2024]

STOP BRO! hes literally told this same story over & over & over for 20+ years! all of a sudden he's on Vlad & now its eloquently said lmao

[@SantiagoTwelvePack]

@@BoxingLegends2024 I’ve never heard him say it. Old to you. It’s new to me.

[@TheAncientPhilosophyChannel]

i clicked on the replies hoping id see a comment saying this. Suddenly vladfans are acting like they knew teddy atlas @@BoxingLegends2024

[@TheAncientPhilosophyChannel]

just youtube search teddy atlas talks mike tyson .. he says it word for word same story hes even been on joe rogan saying the same story where the fuck have you been ? @@SantiagoTwelvePack

[@rubensaucedo4118]

I agree Foreman should be ranked higher than Tyson, but Atlas and Eloquent don’t belong in the same sentence.

[@truckermixtapes]

I 100% agree with him!!! Foreman was a monster with pure strength, the best chin in the sport, and a master of many styles.....

[@00Aroha]

Lol

[@Darkspotlight28]

Ali best chin

[@tizzletizzle8615]

Name two of those styles😅

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

@@tizzletizzle8615better than Tyson

[@tizzletizzle8615]

@@therumbleinthejunglee name the styles I want to know

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

I really like what Teddy said at the end about how George ought to do something in the way of motivational speaking. God blessed Big George. George ought to pass some on now.

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

Believe it or not, he actually does do some motivational speaking. He just did one at I believe Brown University. It was great. He is such an incredible guy. People don't realize the amount of wisdom he possesses. He's like a super huge Yoda.

[@MiloZfunk]

Teddy broke down the Forman story perfectly like he said it was about redemption and fighting the ghosts of his past when he became heavy weight champion again and also the oldest to do it! Remarkable

[@blocc316]

I have to respect that .

[@simonjohn70]

stfu.... teddy is good advicer but at the same time he hates mike tyson mike tyson knocked him out

[@Mr.matthewRiley-rg5ig]

Ghosts of himself wasn't the same when he had the fro

[@Alan-71351]

Hell, Clay would've destroyed Foreman; Ali, who wasn't the fighter Clay was, beat the crap outta him. You youngsters who believe any of these clowns would've beat CLAY: WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THAT YOUNG MAN!

[@Mr.matthewRiley-rg5ig]

@ Alan his name is not clay his name is Muhammad Ali call him by his name

[@orlandomolina7192]

People forget Foreman was a bad man. Before the preacher, before the foreman grilled. George was a street guy. Very mean from what I’ve read. Triple OG

[@shawnj1966]

He was but I don't think he ever wanted to be. I think he did it because that's what people expected of him. He had a reputation to uphold. Who could've guessed that inside that angry persona, was a very funny, intelligent and humble man just waiting to get out.

[@zibtihaj3213]

He still IS … he is a fraud outside the ring … even Teddy has said that … Teddy is talking about in the ring … that’s different

[@orlandomolina7192]

@@zibtihaj3213 still a fraud why?

[@zibtihaj3213]

He acts like this bubbly friendly grandpa type but is certainly not . In Moore vs Forman legendary nights episode, Moore even said that Teddy told him that he is a fraud . Others have said similar things Teddy (and me also) … respect the guy’s accomplishments in the ring but that is beside the point . Foreman was so hurt by Ali’s defeat and lost identity that he just did not give up and found redemption in his comeback and did whatever it took even if it was putting on a fake persona

[@fighterck6241]

​@zibtihaj3213 It's possible, but there's nothing to prove it except assumptions from people who didn't really know him and were, at the time, building up their mental approach to beating him. Noone knows what anyone outside their circles, or even in their circles, is truly like. All we know is what people choose to express. But I'll say this, it is hard for people to keep the mask from slipping and Big George never has. And he's helped his people, so give him that.

[@spicypickle889]

Teddy's understanding of fight psychology transcends the sport.

[@DougieFresh13]

Teddy told M.M. what was coming. His instructions between rounds are legendary. I've watched that fight a hundred times never gets old. Old P.P.V's are my T.V. Thanks KZbin for all of these classics! In fact it's on again. George's dream speech is legendary at the beginning of the HBO program. Follow that star!

[@meeknuggets4860]

Yeah I remember just before the 10th Teddy telling him that George was trying to set him up.

[@DougieFresh13]

100 percent.​@@meeknuggets4860

[@DonDon45-i5h]

I miss HBO

[@Sldumas1983]

Foreman was from that old school of Boxing he knew he couldn’t let Moore feel that power yet so he let Moore do what he wanted and as soon as Moore felt so confident he stood right in Formans face and that’s a mistake, Forman showed him why he was the Original OG and lights out

[@bennylevine387]

The only people who rank Tyson ahead of Foreman all time are people who aren't authorities on boxing. So, it's not really remarkable in any way that Teddy also believes what every other person in the sport believes.

[@donzibee6709]

Foreman is not just greater than Tyson. He is greater than Lennox and Holyfield.

[@staraptorflock3661]

Tyson was the greatest fighter of the 80s Foreman was never the greatest in any decade

[@bennylevine387]

@@staraptorflock3661 I guess good thing for me then that all-time greatness isn't based on arbitrary ten-year chunks. Tyson would be the fourth best heavyweight of the 70's by the way and Larry Holmes was the best of the 80's.

[@JamesHall415]

​@@bennylevine387You don't know that spongebob

[@JamesHall415]

What makes a person a authority of boxing??

[@zambha5446]

Teddy is a very special person, what a dream it would be to have someone with this much wisdom in your life. Anyone who has had him in their life should feel blessed.

[@00Aroha]

Lol

[@BoxingLegends2024]

lame

[@Romy16.]

Wipe your mouth

[@BangBang-kq1kf]

Doin tricks on it

[@HardcoreLaw-hg9ce]

Foreman versus Holyfield is still one of the best brawling heavyweight fights I ever seen

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

Foreman vs Lyle is better than

[@ZdenekZeman433]

​@@therumbleinthejungleeway better

[@heyeveryonebecool]

You should watch Holyfield’s fights with Bowe if you haven’t. They went to war big time

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

Foreman vs Lyle is the best heavyweight slugfest of all time. No question. That last round actually brings tears to my eyes when I watch it. I don’t know why but it’s that intense. At the end when Foreman had Lyle on the ropes, people were screaming to stop the fight and George just put Lyle to sleep. No one did that to Lyle. Not Shavers, not anyone. Foreman, Liston, Lyle, Bowe, those are the fighters that I’ll watch any day. I give Holyfield a lot of credit for going toe to toe with Foreman. He earned my respect that night. There were a few times Foreman was one more shot anyway from putting Holyfield down. Just didn’t happen, his fitness training really paid off that night.

[@adquinta]

I recall this fight vividly. It was really a young vs old with Michael Moore having much more to lose. I remember being very torn after this fight. George was at the top of his game and super popular. We all wanted to see him win and be champ but it was sad to see Moore lose. Moore was not a bad guy.

[@joojoobaw]

Agreed, but that “mean lean grilling machine” he sold us all was garbage. Great commercials tho 😂

[@ferich2001]

​@@joojoobawhey, it wasn't bad for like $99 bucks, but yea...😂

[@Priceluked]

@@joojoobaw To be fair they aren't that bad if you just clean them.

[@truebeliever786]

I could hear Teddy talk for so long, he just drops such incredible gems of wisdom.

[@princedlotti4181]

Thank you Teddy ! Our whole existence is based on redemption!

[@andyhopkins4133]

George foreman and lennox lewis are both criminally underrated

[@DerrickWright-uz5or]

Been saying this lol

[@intellicogroup405]

They are both in my top 5 heavyweights of all time.

[@ddc2957]

It’s hard to find moderate views on Lewis in particular. People either really highly rate him or think he was good but nowhere close to greatness. Id say he’s 10-12 all time. Great fighter, can’t quite see him as all time elite.

[@DerrickWright-uz5or]

@@ddc2957 his was of the greatest Ali or frazier would've had a hard time with me he is too technical in the ring

[@ddc2957]

Sorry?

[@josephhylton7323]

im not ashamed to admit , that brought a tear ro my eye , that was beautiful

[@missourimale5431]

Foreman is my favorite fighter and I have seen them all since the late 50's from watching the Gillette Friday night fights with my father to the current day. Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

[@ArtSchoolParis]

I got Foreman over most fighters lol 😂

[@BrazenBreeds]

This is rather obvious to most boxing fans - Mike Tyson isn't the greatest heavyweight of all time but he is the most phenomenal. Foreman has more signature victories than Tyson but you can never deny the stunning abilities of the devastating 20 year old sensation.

[@kareemlayne9258]

Exactly

[@brrrrah6027]

Who is then?

[@BrazenBreeds]

@@brrrrah6027 #1 is Ali, #2 is Joe Louis.

[@brrrrah6027]

@@BrazenBreeds well, it depends on how you define "the greatest". The greatest sportsman? Ali for sure. The greatest boxer? Ali doesn’t even come close. He was a good boxer, without a doubt, but compared to Mayweather, Tyson etc., quality of his boxing was significantly lower. Boxers get stronger and technically superior with time. We shouldn’t blindly praise idols of the past only because they come from the past

[@intellicogroup405]

@@brrrrah6027Which great boxers in their prime did Tyson beat. Yes Tyson had great skill and a great style but you need a good resume to be great and you certainly have to had beaten other great fighters in their prime.

[@connshawnery6489]

Foreman is straight up one of the strongest heavyweights in boxing history, physically and mentally.

[@UTP504]

Physically, I think he’s probably the strongest, Foreman was a true freak of nature.

[@Darkspotlight28]

​@@UTP504sonny Liston earnie shavers

[@UTP504]

@@Darkspotlight28 Physically stronger?? No, Foreman was bigger and physically stronger than both of them.

[@Darkspotlight28]

@@UTP504 foreman himself sparred with sonny Liston and clearly said that was the only ones who punches could move him back and how hard he hit and earnie he never fought so I guess that's debatable but Ali who fought both said earnie shavers was the hardest hitter he ever fought.and said it without having to think a second about it. Meaning that's better evidence than what you presented you just saying it cause you think so TF

[@UTP504]

@@Darkspotlight28 😂, you’re obviously a damn fool and clearly didn’t read and comprehend the original post, it was about who’s the strongest physically first, then mentally, neither one of us mentioned punching power, yet here you are arguing like I did. Sure, is it possible Liston and Earnie punched harder than Foreman, yes, duh, especially Shavers his right hand was deadly and one of the hardest in heavyweight history. But back to the original point, AJ is physically stronger than Wilder, but he doesn’t hit harder than Wilder. Pay attention.

[@elrifle24]

People who truly study the history of Boxing know that George Foreman is greater than Tyson. To come back at 40 and win the title is something only the greats can do. And Tyson was never close to achieving that in any come back of his

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

Nobody has done that. I think the only one who comes close is Roberto Duran, fighting competitively until he was almost 50.

[@fighterck6241]

Tyson was also much smaller and had to rely more on quickness and reflex to make his style work. Even with experience and skill, his style was always going to age more poorly than guys like Lewis, Foreman and even Ali whose reach could compensate for diminishing youth. I'm no Tyson fanboy, but Tyson did the best with what he had.

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

​@@fighterck6241That's well stated. I think the same holds true for the Fraziers, Marcianos and Quarrys.

[@MarkLane-r5n]

My favourite fighter is Tyson but you are correct Forman was greater by a lot tbh

[@TheWarriors1515]

George Forman did have a better record and fought better people

[@isaiahedwards6586]

Facts, tyson was in jail by the time real competition came around (holyfield, bowe, lewis)

[@jsj31313jj]

Much better!

[@ChristianSt97]

@@isaiahedwards6586 wdym tyson fought ruddock twice, tony tucker, frank bruno, carl williams, tyrrel biggs ecc..

[@joojoobaw]

This is all true, but his grills sucked though

[@isaiahedwards6586]

@@ChristianSt97 B+ guys, not cream of the crop

[@LeisureLife-qk1qj]

Teddy has been nothing but true and honest from what I've seen his entire career! One of a kind just like Cus!

[@Yette]

One of the happiest sports memories, Big George dropping that right hand and Moorer falling like a Sequoia tree in the woods.

[@polyscroll]

The sheer reverence Teddy has for Big George is inspiring! For someone like Teddy to say what he did about George, it means A LOT!

[@Chopping-it-up]

Mr. Atlas had major indigestion in this interview 😂

[@bosstoking2023]

It's hiccups.

[@jamesbaggett7223]

I know a fireman who is also a medical technician at Houston Methodist. He is by no means a small man. He met Foreman when he had a surgery done there and he says the man’s fist is the size of a cinder block.

[@Bavarian_Lifting]

I dont think people understand just how insane it is to win a heavweight title at 45 years old. Mike Tyson is now what, 58? So he was 45 in 2011. Could 45 year old Tyson have made a successful comeback in 2011 and win it against Klitschko? No way in hell

[@Rambo0784]

Foreman had a great career, he was the most fearsome fighter of the golden era 70s - astonishing came back after decades to reach the top of boxing again - and he's still cooking now with his grills 😁

[@gentlemanmob]

He's not lying even if it is biased

[@kareemlayne9258]

If it’s biased then there’s a flaw in what he’s saying

[@Bodyandmindsports]

No bs, George was better than tyson

[@gentlemanmob]

@@kareemlayne9258 still doesn't make it a lie

[@kareemlayne9258]

@@Bodyandmindsports I don’t think so

[@IsraelMascoll-cw5hq]

@@kareemlayne9258 George Foreman literally had 2 boxing careers, while Mike out here fighting gimmick fights

[@Bangbangbigelow]

This guy man Teddy is always the first person to point out someone else’s shortcomings, Mike is always the first to point out his own shortcomings And that’s where both of these men are different

[@kempissongster21]

Maybe Teddy needs to exorcise his own ghosts about Mike Tyson.

[@fighterck6241]

Teddy's a trainer. It's his job yo point out other people's shortcomings. Mike, having been one of those champs, has the job of looking within himself to see what his trainer is telling him about himself.

[@taekwondotime]

I've been saying George Foreman is the #1 heavyweight of all time, all over KZbin, for years. Looks like other people are finally catching up and feel safe to share the same opinion I have.

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

This. I've been saying All and Foreman are the two best HWs since forever. I love the fact that the younger generation is finally coming to understand that boxing existed before Mike Tyson and also how amazing Big George was. It's funny, I don't think it's that difficult to argue that Foreman is definitely number 2 if not number 1. If a master author decided to write a novel about an absolutely incredible boxer and his life story that's second to none, it would be about George. Cheers

[@nicolas4you]

I really don't believe anyone shares your opinion about George being #1 Heavyweight of All-Time however, I believe that it was the single greatest feat of all-time. George was losing every minute of every round yet he would not give up like he did in Zaire. Even as his face was changing shape from the beating he was taking he knew he had a chance for the knockout.THE ONLY CHANCE HE HAD!!!! AND HE DELIVERED. That's what makes him so special. George only defended his title 3 times before losing to Ali and he won a portion of it back 20 years later against a 26 year old 20 years his junior. That is quite a feat but no way in hell #1 All-Time. You got about 8 or 9 heavyweights who did way more than Big George Sonny Liston included in that list @taekwondotime

[@taekwondotime]

​@@nicolas4you Tough to say. George missed a lot of his prime boxing years when he retired early. He pounded Ali all over the ring for however rounds that was until he punched himself out. George Foreman is probably the #1 reason that Ali was so damaged after his boxing career ended. Foreman did to Ali what Golota did to Bowe. Different ending, but similar beating. The fact that George could come back in his late 30's after a 10 year layoff and get back in there with the likes of Holyfield, Coutzer, Briggs, Moorer, Morrison, and others (and beat some of those guys) was amazing. Nobody else ever did that.

[@nicolas4you]

@@taekwondotime I think you need to really watch the Ali Foreman fight again to compare it to Bowe vs Golata is insane. Ali Foreman was a pretty close fight with Ali landing some beautiful counter shots on Foreman's head. Look a Foreman face post fight. Foreman did land the occasional punch to Ali head but was mostly attacking Ali body. I mean Ali's face was virtually unmarked. I think you just might be an Ali hater. As for the damage done to Ali Foreman had little to do with that. Ali did not take punishment to the head in that fight. Frazier did far more damage to Ali in 3 fight than Foreman ever did. But back to Foreman he basically quit against Ali he had enough. If you never fought anybody even in a street fight you would know what I'm talking about. That's what makes Foreman special. Against Michael Moore he did not quit he even would wear the same trunks he wore in Zaire. What does that tell you.

[@taekwondotime]

@@nicolas4you Bowe vs Golota was a close fight too (both of them), but both fighters took an incredible beating and shortened their careers because of it. The Golota-Bowe matches ended Bowe's boxing career.

[@candrew14]

Moorer kept walking into Foreman's right hand all night. The miracle is the fight lasted as long as it did.

[@larryloco70]

I think there wasn't a three knock-down rule, so George knew it was going to be a long fight and boxed accordingly.

[@candrew14]

Yes, I've heard George say this on many occasions - not sure l believe him 😊​@@larryloco70

[@bobsguitarstudio715]

The George Foreman grill is the greatest invention of all time.

[@JoeyWashingtonHVC]

Just got one a few weeks ago great stuff

[@bilogskii2216]

It's not even a bad take. Foreman beat Frazier twice and against Moorer at an advance age after retiring for a decade. Tyson unfortunately peaked too early and lost all his super matches against Holyfield and Lewis.

[@venicec3310]

Tyson never peaked he just lost focus

[@enybrooklyn5482]

You say super fights like he lost a lot to be honest only the 2 Holyfield fights was Super fights Lennox Lewis fight he was 37 past his prime Lennox was past his also wouldn’t call that a super fight🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dahabo-jb3vl]

Buster Douglas ! Oliver macall used to bust him up in sparring

[@bilogskii2216]

@@enybrooklyn5482 It doesn't matter if he fought Lewis at an old age. Let's say it doesn't count but it's as good as not fighting Lewis in the first place. At least George fought everyone during their prime or close to it (Ali was a special case of course since he wasn't allowed to box). A boxer who fought everyone and lost is still greater than a boxer who never fought anyone. Tyson will always be the most talented heavyweight of all time (him and Ali) but he was never the same after his jail time.

[@bilogskii2216]

@@venicec3310 You have a point there. We never see Tyson at his full potential.

[@kaizerknightshadekobra231]

If Ali Hadn't Thought Of The Rope A Dope There Is No Doubt In My Mind George Would Be Called The Greatest. The way he destroyed Joe & Ken that gave Ali trouble both in 2 rounds. Unbelievable

[@dblocknyc]

HOW is that being a hater ?? Any REAL Boxing fan knows beating Frazier is better than beating LHW Michael Spinks or 40yo Larry Holmes. Those are Tyson's best Wins. Tyson's best accolade is being youngest HE Champ, not who he beat 💯

[@williampowell3378]

Yeah

[@ddc2957]

He’s the youngest HA titleholder but Patterson was champion of the division at a younger age.

[@TRILLmatic214]

Slim George was a monster. Long arms, power. Hard to handle...

[@Jaso839]

I've lost count how many times I've watched the Foreman - Lyle fight. Sheer barbarism.

[@johnniblueeyes2786]

Watch Lyle v. Shavers that was insane.

[@ChanceJolivette]

I watched foreman fight when i was younger but that was once he was an older man, then i watched the movie and i assumed it would be wack but it turned out to really be a great story and love to hear teddy tell this, he really is a great man

[@therealtonyt2538]

Give this man some Water he got hiccups 😂

[@murdock6450]

These clips are great.. thanks VladTV

[@B.Wayne88]

"I failed" not alot people would admit that. Something fighters and trainers today could learn from.

[@sergiobollana]

"He ain't trying to win a fight... he's trying to win a life back"

[@stephen7701]

I don’t think Tyson would last longer than 3 rounds if both would fight in their prime. Foreman is probably the most feared heavyweight in history with Sonny Liston. Also Foreman went 12 rounds in his 40's with Holyfield in his prime, While Tyson got Beat like drum to a stoppage in the 11th round.

[@xl576]

Young Tyson was a monster trained to beat bigger guys. He would surely go beyond 3.

[@williehudson4013]

Bro anyone who thinks Tyson in his prime is standing a chance against foreman in his prime they don't know what there talking about Tyson has a similar style similar to Joe Frazier that would have been a repeat of Joe Frazier George is to strong for Mike unless Mike Tyson knows how to kick George will tear his head off with them big punches

[@williehudson4013]

​@@xl576maybe if foreman was old I would give you that but on points but both in there prime Tyson would get demolished it would be a repeat of Joe Frazier all over again

[@xl576]

@@williehudson4013 not the same as Frazier in any way. Anyway shape or form. Two totally different fighters. Tyson before prison had a chance against foreman as any great.

[@JamesHall415]

​@williehudson4013 Joe Frazier was not as fast as tyson and tyson hit harder and threw better combinations. Cut it out little girl

[@TheGreatest1974]

I’ll never forget seeing Teddy in a small tv screen on the recording of the fight as Moorer went down, he looked dejected as the rest of us all were overjoyed that George had won the title back at 45. Incredible night!

[@allenphillips7082]

FOREMAN IS GREAT MAN...... AND MY RESPECT LEVEL FOR MR. ATLAS HAS REACHED NEW HEIGHTS.... ALL GREAT MEN... FOREMAN, ALI, TYSON, MOORE AND ATLAS....

[@PaulHolman-sh5ts]

Teddy Atlas is bang on the money .. I love this fella I could listen to him all day & night

[@brixtonmystery]

This is so heavy and most will never understand

[@shaned7158]

People think Tyson was unstoppable in his prime he was amazing no doubt but he lost all his biggest matches.

[@gerardusch]

Tyson's career ended when he entered jail. After that he was finished and just in there to pay off his debts. For the same reason you cannot judge Joe Louis on his last three fights.

[@heldinahtmlhell]

@@gerardusch So his career was over at 26? That's weird. Foreman retired at 28 and came back at 38 to win the title. Ali was banned from boxing for 3 years at age 25 and came back to win the title.

[@mariogully]

Amen brother. Atlas tells it like it is .

[@dogley1]

Mike Tyson was far from perfect, he did some bad things that we all know about but many years on he has changed character, accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized on many occasions for certain things. He also had some shortcomings in the ring during his career when he did not live up to expectations, didn't deliver on the night and perhaps did not reach his full true potential. But I feel it is unfair to constantly take a negative stance on what Mike did or did not do during his life. He achieved truly great accomplishments as a young athlete. He still holds the record of youngest HW Champion ever, even after nearly 40 years. By age 21 he had collected up and unified the title which had been broken up and fragmented into different belts. He had a true love for boxing as a teenager, studied the legends of old to emulate them. He fulfilled the life-long dream of his old mentor. Avenged a brutal defeat of his boyhood hero Muhammad Ali. He defended himself on many occasions as the smaller man against big fighters that wanted his blood. His name "Tyson" had become the number one target that people wanted to take out. He's only seen as an executioner of victims that didn't fight back but that wasn't true. He went into the ring scared on many occasions and had to face adversity from men that did fight back. He just made it seem that way as the "executioner" because part of his art of war was to use the intimidation factor. Mike was not perfect, but deserves more respect from Teddy, but they have bad blood, so it is not easy for Teddy to let go of those demons and maybe never will.

[@based-ys9um]

"i graped young girls and robbed old women . I'm not perfect"

[@KP43-08]

Dam bro you wrote a chapter 😂

[@realg5276]

Good post

[@abrahamramirez3980]

I’m glad Teddy talks positive about Foreman here because before this all I could remember is Atlas saying that George was a con man with a bully persona and he lost to Ali because of lack of character.

[@TheEnderBand]

I get where Teddy is coming from, but his diminishing of Mike's accomplishments kind of irks me. He is discounting what a huge feat it was for a scared kid from Brownsville to get in that ring time after time with that fear and doubt in his heart and rise to the pinnacle of the sport more quickly than anyone else in history. He struck fear into the hearts of the scariest men on the planet and had the whole world believing he could walk through walls. You could feel the electricity in the air when Tyson was about to come to the ring because you knew you were going to see something special. Saying Mike never had to actually overcome anything I feel like is completely unfair. Teddy knows what he's talking about and to a degree he's right, but despite his protests to the contrary when it comes to Mike I also feel like whatever he's sipping is slightly spiked with sour grape-flavored Hate-orade

[@alexmosley1514]

This is 100% bang on 👏🏼

[@JellaniBellamy-bm6up]

Facts

[@NutsakZack]

Mike beat a bunch of cans. The only great fighters Tyson beat were larry holmes who was living in a retirement home and Michael Spinks who was 30 lbs lighter. Tyson never beat anyone GREAT in their prime, he's super overrated.

[@kmyattjr]

I agree with you to a certain extent but Teddys talking about the fights that mattered most (legacy fights). Tysons legacy fights were Michael Spinks (w), Evander Holyfield (L but I’m willing to admit that in those two fights Holyfield kept initiating headbutts), Lennox Lewis (L). George legacy fights Joe Frazier (W twice) Ali (L), Norton (W), Holyfield (L), Moorer (W) and if a die hard Lyle (W).

[@kmyattjr]

Oh but for Mike Larry was a great Dub but he was aged out a bit

[@polyscroll]

You can really tell how much Teddy reveres and respects Big George.

[@kinggeoffrey3801]

Tyson was great to watch, but he never beat the best of his era. A career spands more than 5 years. The Tyson fans just make every excuse under the sun. He didn't fight killers like Mercer, Morrison, McCall, Foreman, Bowe either. Foreman is easily in the top 10 best ever heavyweights. A superior resume. I don't think any version of Tyson beats Foreman either. Especially the young Foreman. He would have sent Tyson into orbit.

[@euclideszoto997]

Atlas you could see the heartbreaking he went through the Moorer fight. Every round he warned Moorer of that right hand of George. Moorer a lapse of concentration and George wins the championship.

[@wingateworldunlimited]

The love we have for Tyson ain't because he was the greatest. Its cuz he came from the dirt and he was the underdog with a big bite. Mike Tyson beat the odds and he brought hell with him when he did. The peoples champ forever

[@JamesHall415]

No speak for yourself spongebob

[@americanzombie1802]

A lot of boxers came from the dirt. Tyson was a big break through star because the excitement he brought and his obvious talent. And many years later he’s still around and able to talk about those days so there’s plenty of reasons to like him for that now. But that doesn’t make him the best of all time.

[@KingStreetBrody]

So did George literally lol and Floyd mayeather as well( despite the money tag) and a lot of other champs as well

[@ST58432]

@@KingStreetBrody The dirt he talking about is inner city dirt as opposed to country or suburban dirt. It’s stupid but that’s how guys from inner cities think like it’s all good and safe out there outside the big cities. I’m from the Bronx but I’ve been around seen damn near the whole country so I’m not ignorant like that no more. You don’t gotta be from NY Philly or Baltimore or whatever to have a hard upbringing…

[@KingStreetBrody]

@@ST58432 oh fasho💯

[@kareemmartin1456]

This was well said Mr. Atlas👏🏾

[@ah2552]

1.Ali 2. Louis 3. Holmes 4. Jack Johnson 5. George Foreman

[@JoeyWashingtonHVC]

Great list

[@nicolas4you]

I will rate Liston an Lennox Lewis ahead of Louis and Jack Johnson@ah2552 the rest of your list is good

[@martinezmccurry6751]

Say what you want to say from 3:00 up will give the toughest man alive Goosebumps. Teddy Atlas is the greatest boxing story tell of all times. That man is the Morgan Freeman of boxing. If mike Tyson makes a movie this man got to narrate it. How raw truthful and uncut it would be and pay him and pay him well.💯💪🏿

[@Swat-ed5bt]

Foreman was too powerful ❤

[@mispallai]

Hats off Mr Atlas,for NO EXCUSES❤

[@3MUnique]

Foreman fought Ron Lyles b4 being out of boxing 10 yrs. That’s 1 of the very best heavyweight slug fests in the history of the sport. There were 5 knock downs.

[@KetchLambier]

No doubt!! An All-Time classic!

[@scottdean9259]

Wasn't there six knockdowns ?

[@KetchLambier]

@@scottdean9259 yes, if I recall...over two rounds if I recall as well. A fight for all-time!

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Great fight. But it probably should have ended in round 1 or 2, which was stopped after 2 minutes with Lyle hanging on.

[@3MUnique]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 if I recall correctly, George went down afterwards, late in 1 round and if he weren’t saved by the bell he would not have made the count so Lyles could’ve won that fight as well.

[@TommieGunzz]

No way Tyson is better than Foreman. Tyson’s best win was against a 38 year old Larry Holmes who came out of retirement to fight Tyson and had only one month to get ready for the fight.

[@MaccaveliPL]

Of course he is.

[@TheGreatest1974]

And in EIGHTY ONE FIGHTS who was the only man to ko big George Foreman? Muhammad Ali was the only fighter ever able to do that. And George was at a PEAK 26 years old. Not 46! NO ONE in the 1990’s including Evander Holyfield (who stopped Mike Tyson) could stop George. He is a fantastic heavyweight. Very very underrated.

[@heldinahtmlhell]

Nobody in the 90s could even knock him down. Not prime Holyfield, Morrison, Moorer, Stewart, Briggs or a slightly past it Cooney.

[@eurkzilla2]

Teddy is trying to rewrite the story. He was dogging Foreman the whole time. It's literally on video

[@DougieFresh13]

He was on the opposite side during the build up to the fight. This is how he really feels. Imo....

[@americanzombie1802]

Well duh he had a job to do. That doesn’t mean he didn’t respect the man for his abilities or that he shouldn’t give him credit now

[@kareemlayne9258]

Exactly he’s a hypocrite

[@DougieFresh13]

@kareemlayne9258 Really? He was working for M.M.. S.M.H. lol geez.

[@kareemlayne9258]

@@DougieFresh13 yes really it’s obvious Atlas has a bias towards Tyson

[@williammouri1096]

Boxing exposes a man's soul like nothing else. Teddy Atlas is a master of the arena. He can identify bum or hero, man or mouse in mere seconds.

[@Styles.rp25]

Of course, it’s not even close.

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

1:21 Foreman had more than “one more fight” before Young. In fact, one of the greatest fights of all time is the 1976 Foreman vs Lyle monster fest. If you haven’t seen it, it’s a must watch. Foreman and Lyle knocked each other down several times until Lyle ran out of energy and Foreman put Lyle to sleep. It’s one of Foreman’s best moments in his long and glorious career.

[@donjohn2695]

Foreman is top 3 heavyweights in the history of boxing with with Ali and Joe Louis

[@zibtihaj3213]

He was so calm right till the end … till he knocked out Moore .

[@bekisiphotshili2566]

Ted Atlas sounds even MORE punch drunk than the actual boxers. Did his proteges use to beat him up in training.

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Respectable opinion by teddy atlas that’s how he feels George Foreman was a great fighter powerhouse he won the belt at an older age but Tyson was young getting busy in that ring

[@dickersonjean-baptiste1497]

IMO, we never got to see Tyson's true potential. Cus died too early in his career and after that he lost a lot of his discipline. So ill agree that Foreman was better but I personally think Tyson had a higher ceiling.

[@GhilenPeek]

Its unfortunate because I think Holyfield and Lewis were at their prime when Tyson faded. I mean even if he had Cus in his corner and he stayed off the partying and drugs by the time he fought those two, they would have outclassed him, Tyson would have been wrecked from the other fights he had.

[@Mintcar923]

Teddy is hard to understand about Mike.. Irs like he’s saying Mike was great in a lot of ways but didn’t realize he had that sorta resolve of an ATG

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

We never got to see Foreman's true potential either. He retired at 28 and came back at 38. In his first career he was naive and stupid, and punched himself out in fights. His peak should have been during his retirement.

[@JBERRY603]

Teddys a hater? Nah love Teddy. The passion!!!

[@kjo2130]

Tyson was great but there are many heavyweights above him all time

[@GrubKiller436]

Foremam's best wins are Frazier and Norton. Tyson's best win is... ? I would say Michael Spinks, Tony Tucker, Razor Ruddock, and Frank Bruno. BUT it's not as good as Foremam's resume.

[@SwawDeman]

Nobody (who is serious and know boxing) think Tyson is ahead of Foreman

[@JamesHall415]

Man get out of here with that who really knows boxing. Who gets to determine who really knows boxing?????????

[@incitatusdelaruinalparaiso3166]

Well said.

[@Norma1250]

Tyson never beat anybody who was considered to be on his level or greater

[@shaunmcnally3064]

That's a really fair point from Teddy in terms of boxing. George faced those demons and found redemption in the ring....Tyson has done it in life though

[@PR-WAY]

Mike The Greatest to me dont care what this clown says Tyson was 🔥 aint no one as young as Mike was, was ever on that level

[@ThirtyThreeHipHop]

I maintain there needs to be a Vlad TV awards at the end of the year....This is a early nominee for inspirational interview of the year.

[@danielmor4073]

Prime, focused Mike is untouchable

[@1010-v7l]

How can you measure that? When was his “prime”? Who did he fight in his “prime”

[@danielmor4073]

@@1010-v7l 😂🤡🤡🤡 just watch him

[@Dempsey1873]

Prime mike only beat bums for the most part and got KOD. Liston and foreman KO him

[@pauldickson1495]

George would have beat Ali in a rematch . Ali knew that .

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

Anyone who thinks Tyson is greater than Foreman doesn’t know shit about boxing

[@stevefowler2112]

Out goes the lights...!!!

[@wacojohnnydean1777]

Wow! What a methodical breakdown by Teddy! Great analysis of Big George with a sprinkle of Ali, Tyson, and Moorer to add to it…👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾

[@AlienCel1]

Mike Tyson outside of being the youngest Heavyweight Champ ever really didn't accomplish much compared to his peers , He's not better than Lennox Lewis (not even close) nor better than holyfield

[@majestic8326]

Ye outside that its still the unbroken record 30 years later and one of the hardest to achieve. In 100 years Mike Tyson will still be remembered as the most ferocious heavyweight who captured peoples imagination, holyfield&lennox will fade into oblivion

[@AlienCel1]

@@majestic8326 that I do agree with no doubt but in terms of All time greats I don't think he even cracks top 50. Maybe low 75. And even that's very debatable

[@edkang42]

teddy could live forever. Him and John madden "announcer" are part or my childhood! Love Teddy

[@trayweathersby7490]

He isn't wrong. Foreman is definitely a better fighter than Tyson. And because Evander actually stepped up and defended his title against Foreman, I'd say Evander is better than Tyson too.

[@heldinahtmlhell]

Holyfield had a stronger mentality than Tyson. Holyfield had a 70s mentality.

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

Teddy told Moorer EXACTLY what was coming If you haven't seen it please watch that fight

[@ZdenekZeman433]

George was not destroyed by the title lost. He felt stupid, and angry. He desperately wanted a rematch, that was denied. What made him feel not invincible was the tremendous fight with Ron Lyle

[@joojoobaw]

Teddy is right, except about the grills 😔 I expected so much more when I bought one off that infomercial, still salty about it to this day

[@ralphgreenwood2469]

Most people love their grills.I do.Which one did you buy?The bigger ones are the best.

[@JosephCarter-v3v]

Even Tyson's great trainer Cus D'Amato told Tyson to never fight George Foreman because Tyson would be knocked out by Big George because Tyson's style which would walk right into Foreman's power was made to order for the freakish punching power of Foreman.

[@tymillionaire5733]

big geo said his self he didn’t want to fight tyson

[@carlallen8392]

Teddy tells it like it is, special man

[@mattlenton2012]

Said beautifully,perfectly.