Greear and Litton: Plagiarism and Sin in the SBC

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Justin Peters Ministries

Justin Peters Ministries

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Original video detailing both Greear's and Litton's plagiarism:
• Video
WWUTT video on God "whispering" about sexual sin:
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JD Greear's full sermon on homosexuality:
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JD Greear's statement:
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Ed Litton's statement:
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@SMaamri78
@SMaamri78 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate it when a speaker says “turn to your neighbor right now and say …”
@brettmagnuson8318
@brettmagnuson8318 3 жыл бұрын
✋🏼 same
@TheIndecisiveWigWearer
@TheIndecisiveWigWearer 3 жыл бұрын
✋🏻 agreed!
@songbird9444
@songbird9444 3 жыл бұрын
Can't stand that either. Just a form of manipulation and mind control.
@markmoore8399
@markmoore8399 3 жыл бұрын
Put it in the chat ughhhhhh
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! It strikes me as an arrogance from self-important people.
@clariceberggren5614
@clariceberggren5614 3 жыл бұрын
When I was saved in 1981, at a small country church, my Pastor spent every day except Monday either in his office at the church or other outreach work. He prayed hours for his people. He took his call to lead his flock so seriously, and taught his people the Bible. He preached a message on Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday after we had prayer. I never ever wanted to miss church, because he fed us such wonderful food!!He inspired us to love the Word of God and to dig for treasure there. I believe there are so many men in the pulpits today that are not truly called to preach, and do not take their leadership and their accountability to God seriously. It is not just these two men I am referring to, it’s everywhere. Judgment begins at the HOUSE of the LORD.
@cat-bg3rv
@cat-bg3rv Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment. It is so culture led and progressive in many churches. It is sad. The Bible does speak of lament and repent. God bless you! ✝️📖🌱
@Rabithat
@Rabithat 3 жыл бұрын
I came for the analysis, but your Gospel presentation at the end moved me deeply. Praise the Lord for you Pastor Peters!
@alanpilgrim3632
@alanpilgrim3632 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the gospel presentation twice. It never gets old.
@pyrolysis2129
@pyrolysis2129 3 жыл бұрын
I loved it too. Its a wonderful thing to see the spirit move through a Godly man for His purpose.
@gracepilditch9388
@gracepilditch9388 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the whole talk is excellent but where Justin presents the gospel - absolutely wonderful. The best part.
@martinsilva1985
@martinsilva1985 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! What I've always admired and respected about Justin is that even though he presents hard topics that need to be brought up, he always faithfully preaches the Gospel!
@hammerbarca6
@hammerbarca6 3 жыл бұрын
I’m always convicted by the humility, patience, and self-control with which you treat weighty subjects. God bless
@jasongoldsworthy6149
@jasongoldsworthy6149 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Justin, true to the Word as ever...finding a "good" church is getting harder to find in these last days. Many of us are starving to death from the so called "sermons" being preached in the pulpits especially on the lack of repentance and Godly sorrow. If it was not for the videos you and other faithful servants post it could be quite easy to get discouraged and feel alone in speaking the truth. May God bless you and your family in the mighty name of Jesus our Saviour.
@lcollins4313
@lcollins4313 3 жыл бұрын
Be assured you are not alone! I left many churches that were infiltrated by the hyper-charismatic one by one or Warrens Purpose Driven Life or loud band worship., these hyper charismatic groups or non Biblical teaching. I had desire to read the Word and it was the stumbling block for believing false teaching. Jesus warned us there would be a famine of the Word of God in the last days.
@margcarter3758
@margcarter3758 3 жыл бұрын
This is really awful scewing
@margcarter3758
@margcarter3758 3 жыл бұрын
This is really awful misrepresentation of the sin of sexuality! These men are preaching another Gospel. Saddens my heart !
@margcarter3758
@margcarter3758 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry I don’t agree with you. Search it out for yourself. Perhaps you will be given insight!
@raymatthews4319
@raymatthews4319 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Shut up, troll boy.
@suechapel1443
@suechapel1443 3 жыл бұрын
The Baptist church was once virtuous and preached the gospel faithfully, I was saved at a Baptist summer camp when I was 9 years old. It breaks my heart 💔
@angiebee2225
@angiebee2225 3 жыл бұрын
SBC represents a portion of Baptist churches, and even among the SBC there are still solid, faithful churches. I've attended Conservative Baptist churches, Regular Baptist churches, independent Baptist churches and SBC churches, and have found solid teaching in each and problems in each. Baptist really just means the church believes in local church autonomy, and you'll find a wide range of theology and values among Baptists. I've moved around a fair bit (geographically) and I've learned to really look at how a church presents itself (statement of faith, what they feel is important to put on their website, etc.) rather than the denomination (or convention) the church belongs to. Let this break your heart, though. My great-grandmother was a staunch Southern Baptist and I think this would horrify her. It's very sad, and it makes me really hope that a lot of churches withdraw if the SBC does not address this.
@worshambaptist4177
@worshambaptist4177 3 жыл бұрын
Many Baptist churches still faithfully preach the Gospel, and many SBC churches disapprove of what is going on in our leadership. I just wish more of them would get involved and show up at our annual meetings!
@martinsilva1985
@martinsilva1985 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and as a SB I've found it to be a sad testimony that a lot of the SBC is allowing the culture to define their theology and their methodologies. This is why true biblical exposition is necessary in the church and that we use the scripture as the final authority when we preach the Gospel, not cultural cues. There are still some good SBC churches out there, but that's why it's so important to find a church that follows the biblical pattern for how they preach the Gospel.
@kelslo74
@kelslo74 2 жыл бұрын
Independant fundamental baptist church… Pastor Charles Lawson is true to the word of God,with reverence and humility
@jennesset1102
@jennesset1102 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Justin. I can tell that you put much time into research and care in this video. Well done brother. So thorough. It is very appreciated. God bless you.
@DarkstarArchangel
@DarkstarArchangel 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I am subscribed to your ministries Mr. Peters. Discernment in the church is exactly one of the most crucial things we need in the Ministry, it pushes the church from becoming corrupt.
@Mary-re7gd
@Mary-re7gd 3 жыл бұрын
Truth! My sentiments exactly!
@loweeization
@loweeization 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if Pastor Peter's subscribes to the Sabbath? Do you know if he believes those who worship on Sunday are doomed to hell. Does anyone have this answer?
@drmoz43
@drmoz43 3 жыл бұрын
Yes for sure. He exposed what has tried to hide. WOG speaks boldly in Book of Luke. " What has been hidden will be revealed. What has been done in secret will be Exposed!!!!!"
@mawmawvee
@mawmawvee Жыл бұрын
@@loweeizationIsn't the Sabbath a Jewish day of worship?
@JesuIsTheOnlyWayToSalvation
@JesuIsTheOnlyWayToSalvation 11 ай бұрын
That is absolutely true. Please, what is that symbol and why do you refer to yourself as a cosmically mis-aligned Archangel?
@jeremiahyeo5863
@jeremiahyeo5863 3 жыл бұрын
This Apology of Liton is not of Godly sorrow - but of worldly sorrow .... he’s sorry because he got caught.
@DWCPodcast
@DWCPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
8-9 men helping to write a sermon wouldn't come up with these exact almost word for word reciting of JDG's speech.
@patriciavanegmond650
@patriciavanegmond650 3 жыл бұрын
Justin, sadly sermon plagiarism may be more widespread than one might think. I left a church in my area because the pastor was using John MacArthur's sermons and preaching them as if they were his own. Week after week this continued. Many raved about the pastor's gift of preaching not knowing the sermons actually belonged to MacArthur. Thanks for bringing attention to sermon plagiarism.
@lcollins4313
@lcollins4313 3 жыл бұрын
@@patriciavanegmond650 well, at least the sermon would be Biblical sound, but integrity issue. The main red flag is the pastor is not studying the scriptures himself.. he’s not sound .
@kristimartin6975
@kristimartin6975 3 жыл бұрын
I am saddened by these careless teachers. I have a daughter living in a lesbian lifestyle. I pray for her and her partner everyday. I believe that we need to be compassionate and loving to all people and also give them the true Word of God.
@hisservants8003
@hisservants8003 3 жыл бұрын
@@DWCPodcast why is he not writing his own sermons is my question? Is it normal for an entire group to write a sermon?
@87chadie28
@87chadie28 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Justin for always contending earnestly for the faith, for always teaching truth. You are a blessing!
@carolinebaum891
@carolinebaum891 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Justin! It is wonderful to hear the Gospel-even “extended”. It was an encouragement to hear it again and again! My husband, son and myself are encouraged by you! So thank you-for the glory of God alone! He is so so good to us! Until we worship at the feet of Our Beautiful Savior-Let us stand firm!
@paigeyoung4041
@paigeyoung4041 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this. It’s very telling. It’s very sad that the denomination I grew up in is probably past the point of no return when it comes to integrity.
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I used to get a warm feeling whenever I drove by an SBC church because, as a rule, you could expect God's Word was being shamelessly taught. That is not true anymore.
@laurakerr3450
@laurakerr3450 3 жыл бұрын
That was a good one !
@Matt-vk9sb
@Matt-vk9sb 3 жыл бұрын
Well,... there remains one final glimmer of hope in my opinion: If Ed Litton resigns, then the newly elected First Vice President, Dr. Lee Brand, replaces him. Lee Brand is decidedly "non-woke!" Save us, oh Lord!
@sharonl.2817
@sharonl.2817 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I emailed my SBC affiliated baptist church this morning to remove me from their membership and referred this video to them. I had been sitting on the fence because of their use of Hillsong music and not warning the ladies about Meyer and Moore. I needed a push.
@Kanon-fq5fh
@Kanon-fq5fh 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah , right . I had a wonderful experience while visiting a country two years ago and ….well , I think it was some Country in Europe … wait … was it in Europe or in South America.? Just forget about , either I’m hallucinating or describing someone else’s experience :)
@bornagainspirit
@bornagainspirit 3 жыл бұрын
It's not only plagiarism, for me the most detestable thing is that they are misleading the people by distorting the Word of God.
@JohnnyStuttle
@JohnnyStuttle 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seraphina_Elihu their day is already here. He’s left them to rot in their sins for now.
@Kanon-fq5fh
@Kanon-fq5fh 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment just left me speechless ! You’re awesome ! Does that tickle your ears ? I was going to say something “ silly “ but obviously Im practicing self control :)
@janawalczuk833
@janawalczuk833 3 жыл бұрын
The sadder thing is this is what the people want, otherwise they would walk out and take their money too. Bible ignorance and easy believism.
@jerryadams6609
@jerryadams6609 3 жыл бұрын
To say that God whispers about any sin, is to say that Christ's crucifixion and propitiation for sins is a whisper. Never!!
@heathermiller4420
@heathermiller4420 3 жыл бұрын
For real! Have they never read Proverbs? Sexual sin is pretty loud there!
@heathermiller4420
@heathermiller4420 3 жыл бұрын
And like Voddie B mentioned one time an ENTIRE CITY was destroyed because of sexual sin. A. Whole. City.
@PK-mm8zc
@PK-mm8zc 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Turning Sodom and Gomorrah into volcanic material is NOT A WHISPER!
@PK-mm8zc
@PK-mm8zc 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathermiller4420 Exactly. Turning Sodom and Gomorrah into volcanic material is NOT A WHISPER!
@PK-mm8zc
@PK-mm8zc 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathermiller4420 Exactly. Turning Sodom and Gomorrah into volcanic material is NOT A WHISPER!
@dwaynemcdowell2073
@dwaynemcdowell2073 3 жыл бұрын
Justin, you were one of the first preacher/teachers I was exposed to mere weeks after being saved and I must say I’ve followed you for a while. So grateful for your ministry and appreciate your commitment to the Word and how thorough you are in how you present your content! God Bless!
@JustinPetersMin
@JustinPetersMin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow - thank you so much, Dwayne. Praise the Lord for His work in your life. Blessings to you :)
@anotherdayatthefeast8100
@anotherdayatthefeast8100 3 жыл бұрын
What a hope we have in Jesus. He is faithful 🙌
@carleenpring3404
@carleenpring3404 3 жыл бұрын
Justin, thank you once again for putting this video together. I can't begin to imagine the hours you spend putting these together - you are very much appreciated for it. May God, in His providence, continue to give you the strength and energy to help the sheep see who the wolves are. Blessings from Australia
@PittManGaming
@PittManGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a man can commit is outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body. 1 Corinthians 6: 18-20 (The Lord does NOT whisper about sexual sins)
@zenebornman7917
@zenebornman7917 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. 😏
@joshlumley2460
@joshlumley2460 3 жыл бұрын
As Sodom and Gomorrah can attest.
@PittManGaming
@PittManGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshlumley2460 Exactly.
@victoriahebert3073
@victoriahebert3073 3 жыл бұрын
That's the Biblical way to refute false doctrine, as you did with Scripture itself! These teachers are twisting Scripture to fit this present world of what man wants, woke has infiltrated some of our Churches!
@PittManGaming
@PittManGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@victoriahebert3073 Victoria, you make an excellent point.
@deniseadkins2901
@deniseadkins2901 3 жыл бұрын
It is really late 11:28 pm. I will watch tomorrow. Thanks Justin.
@markbarrett4482
@markbarrett4482 3 жыл бұрын
When a preacher gives credit where credit is due, it never takes away from his message but only lends credibility to it, and him as a shepherd. Congregations want to hear from their pastor, as he hears from God...through the deep study and right division of the word of God. If he has no time to study because he far too busy "event planning," as so many pastor do today, it is time for him to reassess his call and get a job with Carnival Cruise lines.
@worshambaptist4177
@worshambaptist4177 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put!
@eddiebriggs2058
@eddiebriggs2058 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Justin, we need the Lord in these days more than ever!
@rosalindayoung1088
@rosalindayoung1088 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! We do
@alm8213
@alm8213 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely and here in South Africa they have gone into lockdown again and as it's Africa there's no furlough scheme and churches and gatherings are banned so we cannot get food to them. The govt is effectively killing the masses through starvation. Please pray 🙏😭
@justifiedbyfaith6511
@justifiedbyfaith6511 3 жыл бұрын
@@alm8213 Praying for you all in S Africa. Cling to God's promises.
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 3 жыл бұрын
Amen 💖
@eddiebriggs2058
@eddiebriggs2058 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s all act like Adults!!
@laurakerr3450
@laurakerr3450 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you my dear brother for all the work/ word that you bring to us ! I see your kind heart ! God Bless you Justin ! I Love you !
@Stephandmike504
@Stephandmike504 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone who actually addresses the horrible misinterpretation of Romans 1! Yes, the lying and plagiarism are terrible but I find their rendering of Romans 1 far more disturbing!!
@klatt4057
@klatt4057 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother for bringing these things to light and for proclaiming the gospel. God bless you and your family.
@Emillly3
@Emillly3 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for this. I had ZERO idea that pastors have teams to write sermons. And thank you for bringing logic and truth to these ideas given in his sermon.
@izzyboor4282
@izzyboor4282 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Pastor Justin for a thoughtful and thorough examination of these issues. It saddens me, but also reminds me that human beings will always make "mistakes" (intentional deception, at times?), and I need to always keep my eyes on Jesus Christ. Thank you for helping me work out my walk.
@csimpsonjtd
@csimpsonjtd 3 жыл бұрын
Glory to God for those that stand for the truth of God's word. Thank you brother.
@csimpsonjtd
@csimpsonjtd 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Can you please provide a timestamp where he slanders Greear?
@csimpsonjtd
@csimpsonjtd 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry You stated _"that he had the experience he recounts in the sermon"_ but let's think critically about that claim. Greear was neither at the same place nor the same time as Tripp. Even though the situations may have been "similar", they are not the same. Since they are not the same, then how can he (Greear) think that it is okay to use that example as his own? Also, the more common sense question is, if he (Greear) experienced a "similar" situation then why not just use his own story? Even if Tripp's experience was more detailed and visual, if Greear ACTUALLY experienced something "similar", hearing Tripp's story would have only helped him remember his own experience more vividly and he could then share his OWN experience.
@csimpsonjtd
@csimpsonjtd 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry When it comes to repentance, there is metanoia (G3341) and then there is metamelomai (G3338). Metanoia is the anguish of sin in one's heart while metamelomai is simply the regret of being caught in sin. Your conscience tells you that there not a single time where you would used someone else's experience above your own. Even if you are at the same place at the same time as someone else, you will still use your own experience because your own experience will always be more important than that of someone else. What Greear did was intentional and deceptive. Yes he apologized but it was only regret (metamelomai) that we witnessed as that sermon was up for two years and would have remained had his deeds not been exposed. Anguish of sin (metanoia) would have led him to remove the sermon (or not used someone else's experience at all) much sooner as a heart grieved with sin knows that the disobedience is against God and not man. I truly hope this gives you a better perspective regarding the severity of this situation and I hope that you realize how you, in fact, are the one that has falsely slandered Justin with your remarks. _"For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives"_ -Heb 12:6 ESV I truly hope that you see the love of God through His correction of the heart. Grace and peace to you.
@scottcollins6596
@scottcollins6596 3 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand how Litton became SBC president. That’s like making Bernie Madoff treasury secretary of the USA
@pedsrn2003
@pedsrn2003 3 жыл бұрын
I think the SBC has been struggling for some time with doctrinal and social issues as well as scandals involving sexual predators. The more they become involved with social justice issues the less they will, as a denomination, preach and teach the gospel. This is a problem facing all evangelical believers. Notice that I do not say "christians". Too many unbelievers claim that name and disgrace Yeshua in the process. How much more do we disgrace our King when we fail to stand against these frauds?
@dusty4009
@dusty4009 3 жыл бұрын
😅😄😃😂
@drmoz43
@drmoz43 3 жыл бұрын
MONEY BUYS & all else WALK!!!
@gagascrafttoonzz172
@gagascrafttoonzz172 3 жыл бұрын
You did a wonderful job presenting this information. I have been a Southern Baptist all my Christian life. Now I am so sad and disgusted with what is happening in this organization that I feel I no longer want to be part of it. Thank you for addressing these issues and your beautiful presentation of the true gospel.
@valeriemckenna4590
@valeriemckenna4590 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin hope you’re doing well always great to see your videos. I used to listen to JD Greer podcast but I don’t listen anymore. I’m with you always Justin. Please pray for us we are having a bad heatwave some are without power and dealing with dangerous heat conditions. Prayers are appreciated praying for you Justin
@raymatthews4319
@raymatthews4319 3 жыл бұрын
Prayers go out to you and the others affected by the weather, Valerie.
@justifiedbyfaith6511
@justifiedbyfaith6511 3 жыл бұрын
Praying for you all as you suffer from this extreme heat. Blessings from England !
@889Pammov
@889Pammov 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry No one wants to join your cult.🙄👋📖Read The Bible and Repent Romans 1:17-32 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite
@fayecraghead6820
@fayecraghead6820 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to cry as I heard a minister say he’s standing on the Word about sexual sin and he’s never been so attacked! It’s so heartbreaking that this world says it’s not sin! Heartbreaking! But I thank you so much for preaching the truth and knowing you’ll be terribly attacked! Sure wish we had more like you! May God bless and protect you! Please keep preaching the truth!🙏🌈✝️
@kolincindykouhout5278
@kolincindykouhout5278 3 жыл бұрын
We just moved to NC and when we were looking for a church "everyone" said, "go to JD Grear's Summit Church!" We went once, and could wait to get OUT!
@Mark-yb1sp
@Mark-yb1sp 3 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@kolincindykouhout5278
@kolincindykouhout5278 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-yb1sp it was a well oiled machine from the parking lot to the worship band to the message. It was pure entertainment. Two years ago we would have bit in whole heartedly but now, thank God, we saw the writing on the wall and RAN!!!
@billmann1811
@billmann1811 3 жыл бұрын
@@kolincindykouhout5278 where did you end up?
@kolincindykouhout5278
@kolincindykouhout5278 3 жыл бұрын
@@billmann1811 We're at a Calvary Chapel church now and love the verse by verse teaching!
@gracepilditch9388
@gracepilditch9388 3 жыл бұрын
Your talks are never too long, Justin, grateful for such clear biblical teaching. Thank you!
@JustinPetersMin
@JustinPetersMin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the encouragement, Grace - blessings to you :)
@mawmawvee
@mawmawvee Жыл бұрын
I find your videos meat and there is no pap in them. Thank you for that.❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@gracepilditch9388
@gracepilditch9388 Жыл бұрын
@@mawmawvee solid food!
@Kenneth-nVA
@Kenneth-nVA 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve pastored for the last 11 years and have never even repeated one single sermon! If I can’t preach it in and through the Spirit then I shut up!!! I was asked at another church to teach on a subject and verse that I had taught on recently. You pray, you trust by faith, you study, you prep and pray then you prepare that specific message for that specific fellowship! Also… stay away from prepared sermon outlines because it will make you lazy. Blessings
@josephgarrett3075
@josephgarrett3075 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, you open to a comment/correction?
@Kenneth-nVA
@Kenneth-nVA 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephgarrett3075 absolutely
@josephgarrett3075
@josephgarrett3075 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kenneth-nVA :) I don't want to misrepresent you, so I have some questions - When you taught at the other church on that same subject- did you change your preparation/points in the sermon? Do you think that was the right or needed thing to do? (if you did change it) - What is wrong with prepared sermon outlines and how do they make us lazy (genuine question brother!) ? Are you referring to outlines that you (i.e a pastor) make personally? Or an outline that is made from a resource (like online or commentary/etc.)? I didn't understand that last part. Thanks!
@uview1
@uview1 3 жыл бұрын
Preach the Word and repeat.
@Kenneth-nVA
@Kenneth-nVA 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephgarrett3075 Great questions. It was a few years ago but a pastor friend from another state had asked me to teach on two separate occasions during a time he needed help. I generally will ask about the “ pulse “ of the body and on one of the two we had agreed l would preach on a portion of scripture in Philemon. I had just finished a verse by verse study a year before this…so; he was having certain issues within his congregation and I used a different approach since his fellowship knew a lot more. I use snapshots instead of points. Nothing about the teaching was the same only the trajectory. We had visited Gettysburg on our way up there. By the time we reached his house ( northern Pa) I had changed even more of the teaching reflecting on what I had learned at Gettysburg. In the end ( my point/my conviction) it reflected their position and need and was a completely different sermon . Secondly; I have a rather large library and certain books/commentaries( older ones) will suggest outlines for teaching. Are their outlines helpful? Sure! However, I’ve known some pastor friends who will start with a prepared outline rather than develop it after engaging the text. G. Campbell Morgan once stated that he would read the portion of verses ( verse, chapter, book) quite a few times through before picking up a pen. I honestly believe that starting with another person’s outline with structural ideas, will make one lazy Imho. Of the above pastors, maybe 10% even engage the languages.
@firstnamelastname2552
@firstnamelastname2552 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Justin. God bless.
@firstnamelastname2552
@firstnamelastname2552 3 жыл бұрын
​@@yeoberryYou forgot to type in all caps.
@soldierofchrist4ever
@soldierofchrist4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname2552 *Best reply ever!*
@mercyp7151
@mercyp7151 3 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated especially the Gospel message at the end. I've seen this issue regarding his plagiarism all over social media this past week. I am always grateful to learn how to discern these matters. Thank you brother for taking the time to address this. Blessings to you and your family sir. If plagiarism is a crime in the academic world, how much more is it grievous in the pastorate, handling the Holy Scriptures!This plagiarism sounds like what the ARC churches do of sorts, copy one another's sermons. With exception that is it part of their franchise system for pastors to do so.
@williewiner4161
@williewiner4161 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin appreciate all your videos. Your teaching on soo many things has been a blessing to me.
@JustinPetersMin
@JustinPetersMin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Willie.
@fallshillsidehome
@fallshillsidehome 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Justin. So true about sexual sin, divorce, etc leaving a scar forever. I hope everyone watching paid attention to that part. It's something very difficult to live with.
@bronzewing1965
@bronzewing1965 Жыл бұрын
Dear Justin. I think I've watched almost all of your sermons. Of all of them, this one touched me to my core. You certainly fed this sheep my precious shepherd. Thank you, Justin, and I thank the mighty Lord God for you and putting you in my path and leading me to salvation. Bless you. 🇦🇺❤️🙏😇
@stuartjohnson5686
@stuartjohnson5686 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to hear how my pastor feels I want him to tell me what God says not how my pastor feels about whatever the issue is.
@davidpadilla9462
@davidpadilla9462 3 жыл бұрын
Acts 5:29 “Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.” Ecclesiastes 12:12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
@samvogel2368
@samvogel2368 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. We as Pastors/ believers should "feel" how God feels about every subject. Again, AMEN! I wonder if these unbiblical sermons and behaviors reveal what these men believe about the Bible being God's inerrant Word.
@ChattyNana
@ChattyNana 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not being afraid to speak out. The church and its leadership needs to be held accountable. God Bless you for being faithful to God and His Word.
@Nena92169
@Nena92169 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Justin for reminding us that God doesn't whisper.
@Nena92169
@Nena92169 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry nonsense
@fredbutler5358
@fredbutler5358 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! This video is not even 12 hours old and there are 14 thumbs down! Really?! People really disagree with what Justin is saying here? Do they not believe stealing other's stuff is bad? What on earth is wrong with those people!?
@TheIceManCooketh
@TheIceManCooketh 3 жыл бұрын
Strong delusion.
@fredbutler5358
@fredbutler5358 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry What are the lies? Everything you note here is pretty much affirmed by watching Littion/Greear's sermons AND reading their disastrous responses to this scandal. Why do you want to defend these crooked men? Why do you have such a low view of the importance of the pulpit and a preacher's integrity?
@fredbutler5358
@fredbutler5358 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Oh for goodness sakes. I just found out you're John Carptenter. For everyone reading the comments, John is the guy who defended Mark Driscoll and complained everyone was attacking him. (How exactly did that work out for him?) He ALWAYS accuses anyone who disagrees with him or calls him out for his stupidity "liars" and violators of the 9th commandment AND his personal White Whale is John MacArthur who he accuses of "heresy" because John doesn't affirm his odd ball views of Covenant Theology. He's not fit to be a preacher the way he acts pugnaciously. He's an Ishmael, with his hand against every man. Best to ignore or block if you can.
@ruthiepooh86
@ruthiepooh86 3 жыл бұрын
Plagiarism is prevalent I think. We left a church 5 years ago because the “pastor” plagiarized every Sunday. He just downloaded sermons off the internet. At first he denied it, then he admitted to it saying “everybody does it”. We found it so disingenuous and ungodly.
@a.medina4338
@a.medina4338 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this is the SBC at the highest levels
@_DOH_
@_DOH_ 3 жыл бұрын
What’s funny is before the plagiarism part came out, when I first heard the sermon when people where defending his “whisper” and provided the “full transcript” of the sermon, I immediately went “didn’t JD Greer preach that almost exact message?”
@ethanlafont5073
@ethanlafont5073 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I attended school at the University of Mobile right next to Redemption Church. Thankfully we were faithful members in a Presbyterian Church somewhere else, but so many who we knew were not only members there but extremely active in supporting this man's ministry. I do not doubt he will continue to "minister" and many students will continue to support and defend him. May God bring judgment upon the false shepherds and those who allowed this to continue and raise no alarm. And may God have mercy on those who are in the SBC who have remained faithful.
@mariagonsalves9198
@mariagonsalves9198 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Justin, you are a true hero of the Christian faith. God bless you my dear brother. You , John MacArthur , Paul washer and Voddie Baucham are in my prayers everyday.
@mariagonsalves9198
@mariagonsalves9198 3 жыл бұрын
Covenant Caswell Don't agree with you at all.
@rodneyclements6190
@rodneyclements6190 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly brother Justin!! I needed this message tonight.
@WilliamtheWorst
@WilliamtheWorst 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell J.D. is making that story up. Great work, Justin!
@WilliamtheWorst
@WilliamtheWorst 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Someone loves them some J.D., huh? He was wrong in this case and has admitted so. He is also disqualified from pastoral ministry now. Stop trolling Justin because you don't understand the Scriptures.
@GioTummy3463
@GioTummy3463 3 жыл бұрын
@Justin Peters Thank you for once again bringing clarity where false teachers try to bring confusion
@uview1
@uview1 3 жыл бұрын
Greear and Litton are false shepherds like in John 10:1-2. "He who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, THAT MAN is a theif and a robber. But he who enters by the door (Truth of the Word) is the shepherd of the sheep."
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
What a Prescient comment!
@laurakerr3450
@laurakerr3450 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like our border now !
@uview1
@uview1 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberryAn incongruent argument. You have no defense so you resort to personal attack.
@889Pammov
@889Pammov 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Go find God 🙏😇 Jeremiah 23:1-40 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD. And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land. Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of the LORD, and because of the words of his holiness. For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right. For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD. Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the LORD. And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied in Baal, and caused my people Israel to err. I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah. Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land. Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you. For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it? Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly. I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD. I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal. The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour. Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith. Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD. And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD. And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house. Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken? And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God. Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken? But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD; Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite
@obsidiongamer7651
@obsidiongamer7651 3 жыл бұрын
Love from Perth brother Justin 🇦🇺
@meplife7313
@meplife7313 3 жыл бұрын
waves from Perth
@eternitymatters8767
@eternitymatters8767 3 жыл бұрын
So Litton's team of 8 people came up with that sermon that had at least 10 plagiarized lines (not to mention the entire outline) *and* it was full of bad theology?! This guy shouldn't be a pastor anywhere, let alone leading the SBC, and his team should be fired as well. And all those phonies lining up to defend Litton and calling him "humble" and "transparent" should b ashamed.
@joseandrescarabanteshiguer4580
@joseandrescarabanteshiguer4580 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Mr. Peters even I am not reformed , I am a traditional Baptist you are one of the reform guys I recommend to listen to.
@butgod2480
@butgod2480 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't teach what you do not know." (30:28) No truer words, Justin. Sadly, I met a man who told me his gift was Administration, not Teaching, and saw nothing wrong with preaching from a sermons-r-us type of website. Thank you so much for this effort.
@marcelinon.1897
@marcelinon.1897 3 жыл бұрын
That one classmate copying everybody's homework in class.
@PK-mm8zc
@PK-mm8zc 3 жыл бұрын
No seminary professor would allow 7 other theologians write papers for one another.
@StCausesARuckus
@StCausesARuckus 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, many main stream churches are using franchise sermons.
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention 'preaching' a watered down , world appeasing, cheap grace message.
@TheDrummaBen
@TheDrummaBen 3 жыл бұрын
Is that true? What do you mean?
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 3 жыл бұрын
“Franchise sermons”. Ugh! 🤦🏻‍♀️
@StCausesARuckus
@StCausesARuckus 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrummaBen Willow Creek Church (the mega church) use to sell sermon series and churches all over the world would buy them and use them. There's now such a thing called Kingdom Culture dot org ( had to type it out, rather than link) and it's doing the same thing, selling sermons and courses. I could track and connect the sermons my Pastor preached to thousands of other churches doing the exact same message series. It wasn't until a year ago that I heard another Pastor put a name to it, "Sermon Franchise". That's exactly what it is, a franchise. Needless to say, I no longer go to that church.
@newlookknicks1
@newlookknicks1 3 жыл бұрын
Also known as "satellite churches".
@robcue4543
@robcue4543 3 жыл бұрын
Justin Peters Ministries Rocks! Thank You for your Hard Work!
@rudyb690
@rudyb690 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t this disqualify these men as Pastors? Lying,stealing!
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 3 жыл бұрын
Being heretics and embracing pagan anti christian ideas like critical race theory should disqualify them.
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, all of the above.
@contenderfortruth
@contenderfortruth 3 жыл бұрын
These men are not just pastors but leaders of a major denomination. I can't imagine what the pastors under them are teaching if this is what the leaders are teaching.
@akadwriter
@akadwriter 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJpep2424 Amen!!
@TheIceManCooketh
@TheIceManCooketh 3 жыл бұрын
They’re most definitely disqualified.
@loveofreedom777
@loveofreedom777 3 жыл бұрын
Dear brother: Thank you for clarifying the difference bet "worldly" and "Godly" sorrow and all that you pointed out regarding repentence. So many need to hear this truth. I praise and give all the glory to God our holy Father for your ministry.
@genawatkins6636
@genawatkins6636 3 жыл бұрын
Justin thank you for sharing the Gospel. I've never heard you do that and it was wonderful. God be with you 🙏❤
@theelizabethan1
@theelizabethan1 3 жыл бұрын
In your way of thinking, was Paul's remarks re: Peter's compromising with Judaisers, "slanderous?"
@Post_Tenebras_Lux_
@Post_Tenebras_Lux_ 3 жыл бұрын
I must say, I came because of the title but your exhortation to holiness was what I needed to hear the most. Thank You for proclaiming the truth.
@scottcamp9266
@scottcamp9266 3 жыл бұрын
We have focused on producing “leaders” and not “preachers” since the early 90’s. This is the result.
@nicholaszenga4388
@nicholaszenga4388 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Pastors and Preachers are not the same thing Matthew 3:1 V-PPA-NMS GRK: ὁ βαπτιστὴς κηρύσσων ἐν τῇ NAS: came, preaching in the wilderness KJV: the Baptist, preaching in INT: the Baptist proclaiming in the Matthew 4:17 V-PNA GRK: ὁ Ἰησοῦς κηρύσσειν καὶ λέγειν NAS: began to preach and say, KJV: Jesus began to preach, and to say, INT: Jesus to proclaim and to say Matthew 4:23 V-PPA-NMS GRK: αὐτῶν καὶ κηρύσσων τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel KJV: and preaching the gospel INT: of them and proclaiming the gospel Matthew 9:35 V-PPA-NMS GRK: αὐτῶν καὶ κηρύσσων τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel KJV: and preaching the gospel INT: of them and proclaiming the gospel Matthew 10:7 V-PMA-2P GRK: πορευόμενοι δὲ κηρύσσετε λέγοντες ὅτι NAS: And as you go, preach, saying, KJV: And as ye go, preach, saying, INT: Going and proclaim saying Matthew 10:27 V-AMA-2P GRK: οὖς ἀκούετε κηρύξατε ἐπὶ τῶν NAS: [whispered] in [your] ear, proclaim upon the housetops. KJV: the ear, [that] preach ye upon INT: ear you hear proclaim upon the Matthew 11:1 V-PNA GRK: διδάσκειν καὶ κηρύσσειν ἐν ταῖς NAS: to teach and preach in their cities. KJV: to teach and to preach in their INT: to teach and to preach in the Matthew 24:14 V-FIP-3S GRK: καὶ κηρυχθήσεται τοῦτο τὸ NAS: of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole KJV: of the kingdom shall be preached in INT: And there will be proclaimed this Matthew 26:13 V-ASP-3S GRK: ὅπου ἐὰν κηρυχθῇ τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: gospel is preached in the whole KJV: gospel shall be preached in INT: wherever if shall be proclaimed the gospel Mark 1:4 V-PPA-NMS GRK: ἐρήμῳ καὶ κηρύσσων βάπτισμα μετανοίας NAS: in the wilderness preaching a baptism KJV: and preach the baptism INT: wilderness and proclaiming [a] baptism of repentance Mark 1:7 V-IIA-3S GRK: καὶ ἐκήρυσσεν λέγων Ἔρχεται NAS: And he was preaching, and saying, KJV: And preached, saying, There cometh INT: And he preached saying He comes Mark 1:14 V-PPA-NMS GRK: τὴν Γαλιλαίαν κηρύσσων τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: into Galilee, preaching the gospel KJV: Galilee, preaching the gospel INT: Galilee proclaiming the gospel Mark 1:38 V-ASA-1S GRK: καὶ ἐκεῖ κηρύξω εἰς τοῦτο NAS: so that I may preach there KJV: that I may preach there also: INT: also there I might preach for this Mark 1:39 V-PPA-NMS GRK: καὶ ἦλθεν κηρύσσων εἰς τὰς NAS: Galilee, preaching and casting KJV: And he preached in their INT: And he was going preaching in the Mark 1:45 V-PNA GRK: ἐξελθὼν ἤρξατο κηρύσσειν πολλὰ καὶ NAS: out and began to proclaim it freely KJV: and began to publish [it] much, INT: having gone out the began to proclaim much and Mark 3:14 V-PNA GRK: ἀποστέλλῃ αὐτοὺς κηρύσσειν NAS: that they would be with Him and that He [could] send them out to preach, KJV: them forth to preach, INT: he might send them to preach Mark 5:20 V-PNA GRK: καὶ ἤρξατο κηρύσσειν ἐν τῇ NAS: and began to proclaim in Decapolis KJV: and began to publish in Decapolis INT: and began to proclaim in the Mark 6:12 V-AIA-3P GRK: Καὶ ἐξελθόντες ἐκήρυξαν ἵνα μετανοῶσιν NAS: They went out and preached that [men] should repent. KJV: they went out, and preached that INT: And having gone out they preached that they should repent Mark 7:36 V-IIA-3P GRK: μᾶλλον περισσότερον ἐκήρυσσον NAS: widely they continued to proclaim it. KJV: a great deal they published [it]; INT: exceedingly more abundantly they proclaimed [it] Mark 13:10 V-ANP GRK: πρῶτον δεῖ κηρυχθῆναι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: first be preached to all KJV: must first be published among all INT: first must be proclaimed the gospel Mark 14:9 V-ASP-3S GRK: ὅπου ἐὰν κηρυχθῇ τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: the gospel is preached in the whole KJV: gospel shall be preached throughout INT: wherever if shall be proclaimed the gospel Mark 16:15 V-AMA-2P GRK: κόσμον ἅπαντα κηρύξατε τὸ εὐαγγέλιον NAS: the world and preach the gospel KJV: the world, and preach the gospel INT: world all proclaim the gospel Mark 16:20 V-AIA-3P GRK: δὲ ἐξελθόντες ἐκήρυξαν πανταχοῦ τοῦ NAS: And they went out and preached everywhere, KJV: went forth, and preached every where, INT: moreover having gone forth preached everywhere the Luke 3:3 V-PPA-NMS GRK: τοῦ Ἰορδάνου κηρύσσων βάπτισμα μετανοίας NAS: the Jordan, preaching a baptism KJV: Jordan, preaching the baptism INT: the Jordan proclaiming [the] baptism of repentance Luke 4:18 V-ANA GRK: τὴν καρδίαν κηρύξαι αἰχμαλώτοις ἄφεσιν NAS: HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE KJV: the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance INT: in heart to proclaim to captives deliverance
@bradleyungles8605
@bradleyungles8605 3 жыл бұрын
This is neither
@nicholaszenga4388
@nicholaszenga4388 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyungles8605 we are called to preach, maybe not before a congregation but a preacher is one who preaches, at my church we have preachers to fill in thr Pastor is the Shepherd
@bradleyungles8605
@bradleyungles8605 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaszenga4388 I think you replied to the wrong person lol. I think it's important to remember that language is fluid. That's why we study Greek and Hebrew to help us identify what the biblical author's intent was. Now days pastors and preachers are generally used interchangeably. Just my 2 cents.
@sharegreats2157
@sharegreats2157 3 жыл бұрын
​@@yeoberry But follow them only in case they follow Christ! 1 Cor 11:1. Paul said it so. "Follow me in the same way as I follow Christ!" If I don't follow Christ, don't follow me! This must be applied to the leaders. If they don't follow Christ wholeheartedly then in now way follow them.
@dbarber4422
@dbarber4422 3 жыл бұрын
It is so heartbreaking to me to see what has happened within our Churches today. So heartbreaking. Prayers for these leaders to realize their depravity before it's to late. They should be ashamed 💔
@mary-janechambers3596
@mary-janechambers3596 3 жыл бұрын
It’s run more like a business than a church.
@grace4976
@grace4976 3 жыл бұрын
McDonald’s to be exact. Everywhere you go it’s the same
@solascriptura7975
@solascriptura7975 3 жыл бұрын
I had already left the SBC after I found and started hearing good expository preaching elsewhere. I certainly never got good teaching and preaching in my many years at SBC. Thank you Justin for your faithfulness to God’s Word and for exposing the charlatans.
@victoryfellowshipbaptistch6017
@victoryfellowshipbaptistch6017 3 жыл бұрын
In the late 90's I was pastoring in Ottawa, Ontario Canada, where a Saddle Back church plant had set up. In an interview with the pastor in a significant city newspaper, the pastor admitted that he used Rick Warren's sermons week to week and altered them slightly to "fit his context." That was enough for me having just started in full time ministry to cut all ties with the pragmatic purpose driven hypocrisy. I am hoping that the pushback will be extensively intense to where Greear is removed from his church and Litton is deposed from the presidency and replaced with Mike Stone.
@jsamojlenko
@jsamojlenko 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s why I can’t find a real church here that teaches the gospel. I’m looking for fellowship with other Christians who are sharing the word of God in their lives not a community centre. I’ve yet to find it. Now I understand why. God bless and God bless Justin Peters.
@drmoz43
@drmoz43 3 жыл бұрын
Amen to both COMMENTS!!! Very difficult to find a 'BIBLE BELIEVING WORSHIP CENTER TODAY!!!! I have many years of age & Follower of Christ Jesus. I study diligently when I hear a Teaching of the Bible where add to & taken away from The Word of God!!!! There were a late pastor in Maryland who taught the Fullness of the Bible. He told His congregations. " Have a question ask God, because God is the only One who gives DIVINE ANSWER TO HIS WORD SPOKEN BY GOD HIMSELF. He taught the sheep that he does not have all the answers many times. I have that life principle rule in my life daily.
@christoph1596
@christoph1596 3 жыл бұрын
Why would Greear be removed?
@471CDA
@471CDA 3 жыл бұрын
The church I pastor and I left the SBC a year ago. I couldn't deal with the pragmatism and outright heresy of some of the leaders. Numbers are their concern, not truth.
@Payne2view
@Payne2view 3 жыл бұрын
All this plagerism reveals that too many regard preaching as a performance. Sermons should not be written by a team like a comedy show or pop song. They certainly shouldn't be sold like essays at a bad univeristy. The idea that we pray that God takes away our responsibility to resist temptation, puts the bame on God for our sin. Even though "the Lord's prayer" says "lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil", it is not God's fault when we follow our own desires and lead ourselves into temptation. No preacher should be suggesting that homosexuality (or any other sin) is an unanswered prayer. The bible is clear that nobody is tempted beyond their ability to resist.
@dimitrikrawtschenko7093
@dimitrikrawtschenko7093 3 жыл бұрын
Could you ellaborate on the plagerism of sermons ? If preaching is not our achievement and only done with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit, how can we claim plagiarism? It would suggest, we claim the merits and success of the sermon for ourselves. Wouldn’t that be wrong?
@Payne2view
@Payne2view 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrikrawtschenko7093 I hope you saw the video. Preaching is not a direct prophesy type message from the Holy Spirit. Yes, scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit but people can be commended for studying, like the Bereans were. If preaching was direct from the Holy Spirit the plagerism would be even worse as men would be claiming to be saying what the Holy Spirit gave them to say (prophesy?) but it wasn't to them originally. Men give sermons, not to be admired for their skill but in humble wish to explain to or inspire others in the faith. A pastor or preacher is encouraged to study scripture and preach doctrine accurately. Men are not told to just say whatever comes to mind, in hope that the Holy Spirit is inspiring them to say the right words. A wise preacher would do so with a sense of responsibility to be honest and respectful to the text and the congregation. What the men in the video did was misrepresent the process by which the words they, in effect, performed to the congregation were come by. They misrepresented their ability to interpret and present scripture to their congregation.
@Payne2view
@Payne2view 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrikrawtschenko7093 What these men were doing was not preaching. It was repeating a routine, like an actor. Although we do not praise a person for their sermon, it is expected that a sermon is evidence of a man's ability to understand & explain the inspired scripture. If a man copies what another man said, he is taking credit for the efforts of another and that should make people question his abilty to explain doctrine or how seriously he takes his responsibility as a minister of the word of God.
@brianhagler4490
@brianhagler4490 3 жыл бұрын
@@Payne2view I agree, these men weren’t preaching; preaching would imply the Holy Spirit was involved.
@theanaranth8172
@theanaranth8172 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeoberry Litton recounts the same story as his. This happens on multiple times over multiple sermons. It is pretty clear. Some are word for word. Personally I believe they both get these stories and material from Docent Research and pass it along as their own. For Greer to hold Litton accountable would be to reveal his own plagiarism as well. Which is why we have seen him be pretty quiet outside of saying he gave him permission to use some.
@ronaldmaday
@ronaldmaday 3 жыл бұрын
My church got done with it’s multi-year teaching of Roman’s last year. When we got to Paul’s ending verses where he names various Christians, our pastor preached through another saint’s sermon back in 2014. However, our pastor gave the man credit and, even though he used his same three points, still preached through it the way he preaches. So blessed that our pastor could give our church a great sermon again without sinning!
@92skeet49
@92skeet49 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Justin.
@briankuzmaguitar
@briankuzmaguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Justin! Thank you! I have been back and forth between, am I not being gracious enough/and I being too gracious. You made a wonderful and completely biblical argument and I am so relieved to have landed where I should have been all along. Always appreciate everything you do brother. Praying for you!
@valeriemckenna4590
@valeriemckenna4590 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Justin…
@MyeshiaNyre
@MyeshiaNyre 3 жыл бұрын
Gospel presentation was absolutely beautiful. Praise God
@kristincarter1556
@kristincarter1556 3 жыл бұрын
My husband was there at the convention. I’m very disappointed with everything that went down this year.
@mphillips
@mphillips 2 жыл бұрын
I am rewatching this r n I needed this Justin P - Grateful!! TYSM
@marryrivera9637
@marryrivera9637 3 жыл бұрын
Hi!Justine, watching here from Singapore...Thanks!God bless you!
@rmvicary4215
@rmvicary4215 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Always appreciate your videos and teachings on scripture.
@christinefaith5952
@christinefaith5952 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you pastor,God bless you
@chenderson18
@chenderson18 2 жыл бұрын
Watching video again. I was saved in a SBC where God's Word was the authority and pastors were called and filled with the Spirit of God. Thank you for faithfully, and courageously, exposing the Truth.
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 3 жыл бұрын
What's tragic is how readily people like Al Mohler and SBC "leaders" accepted Mr. Litton and reject out of hand the many faithful lay people who ring alarm bells over such moral failings. This is a world-appeasing machine in place that has abandoned its divine purpose. Thank you, Pastor Peters, for being faithful to God's Word. Your treasures will be imperishable.
@joshlumley2460
@joshlumley2460 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think many of these people have a misguided belief in the 11th commandment more so than being "world-appeasing".
@lisashaw8
@lisashaw8 3 жыл бұрын
❤️ incredible presentation tonight of the gospel Justin; thank you so much. After hearing what these men are doing, your gospel presentation felt like being cleansed. Thank you
@sonnymaupin9267
@sonnymaupin9267 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you post again brother. It had been a while and I was starting to wonder if you were ok
@aurgh9998
@aurgh9998 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for validating my discomfort and concern about the Gospel Coalition.
@hokieham
@hokieham 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped reading them some time ago…….
@doctrinalwatchdog6268
@doctrinalwatchdog6268 3 жыл бұрын
He might also be afraid of his heresy on the Trinity being exposed
@laltanpuiapachuau3310
@laltanpuiapachuau3310 3 жыл бұрын
Which one, Greear or Litton?
@doctrinalwatchdog6268
@doctrinalwatchdog6268 3 жыл бұрын
@@laltanpuiapachuau3310 Litton
@henryj.paydenjr.6590
@henryj.paydenjr.6590 3 жыл бұрын
Please share what you know on his position of the Trinity or where I can access it.
@doctrinalwatchdog6268
@doctrinalwatchdog6268 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryj.paydenjr.6590 he believes God is made up of 3 parts, he deleted it from the internet but I have a video search my channel.
@toomanymarys7355
@toomanymarys7355 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctrinalwatchdog6268 He might be that stupid. Partialism is a common dumb misconception. He is hardly a heavyweight. He shouldn't be teaching, though, as he is unqualified.
@TheColbles2009
@TheColbles2009 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Justin. It’s rare I watch a video from start to finish but I watched every second of this one.
@JustinPetersMin
@JustinPetersMin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Colby! Blessings to you.
@Sparooski
@Sparooski 3 жыл бұрын
I'm officially hunting for a church. I got baptized into Chruch of Christ about 3 years ago, and frankly that experience scared me from seeking another church. Number one I'm surrounded by CofC as neighbors, number 2, I was told if I go to another church God will see me as a whore. They TOLD me that. I lasted a year and praise God for opening my eyes to scripture through Holy Spirit. I'm more solid now. Important safety tip! Read scripture, line by line, verse by verse, don't just blow through it, meditate on the Word. The more grounded you are, the better prepared you will be to handle the gross manipulations and abuses of controlling people who use scripture as a weapon to murder your very soul. (Okay, that was a little dramatic).
@sophialia9635
@sophialia9635 3 жыл бұрын
You are not dramatic sister that is the truth !
@worshambaptist4177
@worshambaptist4177 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to read the book "Churches That Abuse" by Ronald Enroth. It sounds like you were in an abusive church. Enroth's book helps you recognize the symptoms so you can avoid making that mistake in the future.
@Sparooski
@Sparooski 3 жыл бұрын
@@worshambaptist4177 Thanks! I got over my fear and visited a local Baptist church last night. I like them! We shall see!
@PK-mm8zc
@PK-mm8zc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Justin Peters!
@jackuber7358
@jackuber7358 3 жыл бұрын
To Mr. Geear and Mr. Litton, the only affliction screamingly apparent in this situation is the affliction of false teaching inundating so many pulpits across the SBC as well as so many other pulpits across the land. Reject the flowery words of men and cling to the full, complete, inerrant, sufficient, and salvific Word of God.
@Snowcrystalsfalling
@Snowcrystalsfalling 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from New Zealand . Mr Peters, I thank you sincerely for all you share. You are a gentleman and have a sincerity about you that is fixed on Christ and Him alone. Your wife is very blessed. Keep sharing please.
@_DOH_
@_DOH_ 3 жыл бұрын
Several guys in the SBC are preaching sermons like this. Many are preaching outlines and messages printed off and gotten from Lifeway.
@pedsrn2003
@pedsrn2003 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as Mr. Litton failed to give credit where it was due, he crossed the line into plagiarism and intellectual theft.
@sophiaonus3108
@sophiaonus3108 3 жыл бұрын
I would typically walk out of this meetingif I were there.
@dbarber4422
@dbarber4422 3 жыл бұрын
Which meeting are you referencing? The SBC convention, the churches where these 2 men preached the exact same sermons or this video??
@sophiaonus3108
@sophiaonus3108 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbarber4422 yes. Endorsing sin subtly but obviously
@leostitcher
@leostitcher 3 жыл бұрын
I love that look of satisfaction you have when you call out Greear for his "somewhere in Asia" comment. You got him on that one for sure. Good job!!
@trying3841
@trying3841 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work!
@nataliaraposo7115
@nataliaraposo7115 3 жыл бұрын
I love to listen to you, how honest ,and you show us who to listen to. Thank you Justin.
@ronnihall444
@ronnihall444 3 жыл бұрын
This is really common in NAR... there are ‘resources’ down to sermon graphics given out by multiple big names so others can preach their series. Years ago my former pastor had me make custom graphics for his sermon series... I thought he was such a good preacher, but then I stumbled upon Craig groeshel and others series that he had outright taught and presented as his own! And he used ME to cover it!!! I was so angry!!! That was the beginning of the downward spiral that led me out of the NAR...
@seth418
@seth418 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clarity and forthrightness on these serious issues Justin. We need more pastors to do the same!
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