Greedy Pigs Marvel Cancel Captain Marvel & Dr. Strange

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Thinking Critical

Thinking Critical

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@mikehunt1924
@mikehunt1924 2 ай бұрын
Bad comics written by creators that hate their customers has made apathy rampant.
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 2 ай бұрын
These companies have wronged so many characters
@mikep4957
@mikep4957 2 ай бұрын
....Hail Hydra
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
They have also wronged so many fans, too.
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 2 ай бұрын
@@incubustimelord5947 💯
@21Million
@21Million 2 ай бұрын
They lost me when Negasonic Warhead was stronger than Colossus in the Deadpool2. Disrespecting my favorite character. Ever since then I am on a warpath to hate Marvel even though I still buy some stuff.
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
@@21Million I know. N.T.W.'s power is the same as Cannonball (Samuel Guthrie). But even as strong as that energy projection is, it still can't damage Colossus in his organic steel form. But you know how it is these days. Political Correctness makes it so that women are always just as powerful if not even more powerful than any, and all men in a fight. Even to the point of being absurd.
@crosshair9907
@crosshair9907 2 ай бұрын
It is pretty sad to see Carol, who's a shadow of her former self aka her time as Ms Marvel pre 2013.
2 ай бұрын
Remember that one Team-Up.where she and Spider-Man went up against Super Skrull? That was so.good
@dwaynemuth8775
@dwaynemuth8775 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍 You open up the book and Super Skrull is belting a train away like it’s nothing! John Byrne!🎯👍❤️
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 2 ай бұрын
I liked her as Warbird in the 90s too. All the trauma caught up to her and she was dealing with a lot. She was a flawed relatable character.
@SwayRod836
@SwayRod836 2 ай бұрын
Remember when she was the leader of the Mighty Avengers? That was peak Carol.
@BlackEducationRadio
@BlackEducationRadio 2 ай бұрын
Before the 2000s. Before she replaced Genis Vell. Marvel. Great characters poor vision poor politics
@Tooznoze
@Tooznoze 2 ай бұрын
By that logic: EVERY issue of EVERY comic should be #1 forever. We really need to do away with issue numbers, and just use Month & Year.
@99Michael
@99Michael 2 ай бұрын
It's easy. Many comic fans have a standard pull order for first issues. Comic companies will do everything to promote sales but write good comics.
@mohammadbashammakh
@mohammadbashammakh 2 ай бұрын
I believe that these companies are holding the characters hostage, if you the readers don’t like their message or politics and don’t buy their comics they will ruin every character you love beyond recognition that no writer will be able to fix it in the future
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 2 ай бұрын
It was all an angels dream, there, undid everything they turned to crap 😂
@mohammadbashammakh
@mohammadbashammakh 2 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Robotts wish it was that simple, unfortunately some characters like the x-men hit the point of no return
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 2 ай бұрын
@@mohammadbashammakh krakoan plant clones was what they were supposed to be. Yeah, I'm not sure how they can come back after how badly the writers screwed that idea up
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
@@mohammadbashammakh Yes The X-Men were ruined in latest years. For the first time I just can't bring myself to read a new X-Men title again.
@marvelprince
@marvelprince 2 ай бұрын
Holding hostage the characters they own? Right
@BrianRidgway-u5g
@BrianRidgway-u5g 2 ай бұрын
I think the 'Man with a hat' newsletter should be retitled to 'Dude without a plan '
@destro47
@destro47 2 ай бұрын
That's not a fair statement at all! He has a plan, ride out the position he's in with minimal to no effort and get paid until they remove him.
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
​@@destro47Isn't that the same strategy that Jim Lee has? I guess you could say that such a "plan" is a common tactic in the "mainstream" American comic book industry, huh?
@destro47
@destro47 2 ай бұрын
@@incubustimelord5947 seems like there's an awful lot of it going on right now, leadership is asleep at the helm.
@brianerickson6775
@brianerickson6775 2 ай бұрын
more like without a brain.😁😁😁
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 2 ай бұрын
@@destro47 That's all he can do. Like Jordan White before him, he can't actually do anything. Or else, they'll just fire him put in a new patsy and keep on trucking.
@bobmularky7456
@bobmularky7456 2 ай бұрын
It's sad that a 20 issue run is now considered long by modern standards
@jamesroose4340
@jamesroose4340 2 ай бұрын
Carol works better on a team than as a solo character in my opinion. Doctor Strange should be able to sustain high issue length with quality writing and art with his solo runs.
@kyleolson8977
@kyleolson8977 2 ай бұрын
There's a term used in old-fashioned pro-wrestling promotion: Hotshotting If you needed a bump if revenue, you could run a "hotshot", which was to do something much more extreme than normal. Sometimes you do a big match and title change immediately instead of building up. Sometimes you use extreme violence or sensationalism. This usually worked now, but it would always work less the next time and less the time after that. Even more, your normal promotions would seem weak since they weren't as big as the sensational stuff. You took the short term gain, but in the long term you lost something it would take years to get back, if ever. Marvel only knows how to Hotshot, even when they don't need to.
@ComicBookMuscle
@ComicBookMuscle 2 ай бұрын
True. The major thing they’re overlooking is that they have a more sophisticated audience, that have read or watched outstanding entertainment and so no one is falling for #1 jumping on point, events, or settling for filler.
@UToobUsername01
@UToobUsername01 2 ай бұрын
That's the same in p orn. I see the c um shot too often on the girl's mouth and can't get excited as much since it's the new baseline.
@docfortune
@docfortune 2 ай бұрын
I really feel sad for these characters. I remember being excited for Ms. Marvel(Carol Danvers) in 2006 by Brian Reed. It had those fantastic Frank Cho covers, and it was an introduction to a character that had always been mysterious to me. Before I had only known her as the lady Rogue put into a coma by draining her powers. Carol Danvers also had a fantastic depiction in the "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" animated series. I feel like these characters have been stolen from me by people who don't give a shit about them at all.
2 ай бұрын
Imagine there are people who only know her from the movies It's a thorn in my flesh
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 2 ай бұрын
She was an x man for a while, joined the Starjammers as Binary, returned to Earth as an Avenger and took the moniker Warbird in the 90s and was a bad alcoholic from all the trauma between Rogue and Immortus' son, which made Iron Man try to help her, being a former alcoholic himself
@Skywalker3248
@Skywalker3248 2 ай бұрын
They don't care. They only care about collectors and hiring the cheapest writers and artists they can get usually. Those writers tend to hate what super hero comics are about, who they generally appeal to, and the characters within them. Add to it the writers are often frustrated, failed scriptwriters who despise the fact they had to turn to comics, which they see as beneath them, only fuels their hatred for it all. And Marvel doesn't care because they are all about the #1's, variant covers and the collector market.
@Hello-bi1pm
@Hello-bi1pm 2 ай бұрын
​@@Skywalker3248well, let's crash the collector market
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
Brian Reed was the writer that ruined Carol character. He turned her in a cold blooded killer.
@brianerickson6775
@brianerickson6775 2 ай бұрын
Doctor Strange lost his mantle, again. Does anyone know how many times Doctor Strange has lost his mantle of Sorcerer Supreme? Gee, Doc put the mantle on leash or something.
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 2 ай бұрын
What we really need is Franklin Richards' reality warping powers to reset the writers rooms and editorial staff at Marvel and DC. We're well past soft rebooting our fantasy universes and to the point of needing a hard reboot of reality to fix it.
@sidneyrivera3578
@sidneyrivera3578 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps I am in the minority, but I would much more prefer a 6-issue or 12-issue story that is complete, versus a 50-issue arc that limps from 30-50.
@ianhowe338
@ianhowe338 2 ай бұрын
I know it’s a silly First World problem (although, that’s ironic, since America is looking more and more like a Third World country), but I stopped reading new comics in 2011. I recently dipped my toes back in, on your recommendation, with Rook: Exodus and the Energon Universe. It’s been nice to have some floppies in my hands again. Aside from that, I still buy overpriced omnibuses (omnibuses(?)…omnibi(?)) But that’s about it. Everybody has a different breaking point, and mine may be stupider than others. When DC re-numbered Detective Comics and Action Comics it actually made me angry. I was like, screw it. I hadn’t been happy with the quality of the books in s while, anyway, but I said, “if the companies don’t care about the legacy and publishing history of these books, why should I?” Look at the publication history of Amazing Spider-man sometime. It’s fine up until JMS. I could forgive that. One mistake for fifty something issues. Then the numbering reverted back. But Axel F’ing Alonso comes along, and holy shit… What’s it up to? Six or seven volumes? And then, they did that weird shit with the decimal point issues… Issue # 13.1, 13.2, 13.3… It’s all a joke to these scumbags. The entire companies-DC AND Marvel-need to be shut down. Fire everyone. Start new companies, with new management and new creators. And two fresh new universes. The idea of salvaging Marvel 616 is absurd. There have now been more bad stories told in the 616 universe than good. They’ve published as many books in the last decade as they published in the first 40 years of Marvel. You’d think after throwing that much shit at the wall we’d have some great stories to show for it? I mean, even if you only got one great story for every twenty misses, you would still have dozens of epic stories to collect into TPB editions and fill the shelves at Barnes & Noble… Right? There’s almost nothing after all this time. Especially, at Marvel.
@21Million
@21Million 2 ай бұрын
Trying to keep track of all the series numeric reboots is such a hassle that I have completely stopped buying new books. I'm not buying any of the new X-men stuff. All I want is a consistent story built forever over time, in ONE universe and one time period please.
@leighcarey7778
@leighcarey7778 2 ай бұрын
Why do speculators think these comics will be worth anything. If nobody likes the stories, characters they are worthless tat. The number 1 surely only works if the character and story is popular.
@UToobUsername01
@UToobUsername01 2 ай бұрын
mind contrlled kids are being threatened to buy them or else they get beaten by thier woke mothers. (they starve them) America doesn't want heroes because they prefer villains. We need child protective services to investigate kids are buying this crap and ban it.
@chaseattwood-steele2682
@chaseattwood-steele2682 2 ай бұрын
They just buy up a ton of stuff in case someone decides some first app is worth something (or the high level speculators tell everyone it is) then they pump and dump and make the short term profits and the books value crashes astronomically in a week or two.
@BradPlays81
@BradPlays81 2 ай бұрын
It’s essentially gambling. They’re hoping to hit on 1 out of 100 things they buy. I think the real hope is that first issue of that run gets picked up for a movie or TV show and then it will suddenly be in demand.
@laronwilkes4898
@laronwilkes4898 2 ай бұрын
Sensational She-Hulk also canceled. RIP to Doctor Strange and She-Hulk books.
@OrthwormJEB
@OrthwormJEB 2 ай бұрын
I didn't even know Capt Marvel had another comic run. I lost count on how many times that character had a rerun, only to get cancelled.
@bankansh
@bankansh 2 ай бұрын
I mean the Kelly Thompson's run is the high point of Carol Danvers tenure as Captain Marvel, its atleast decent, readable and in parts enjoyable, best thing it did is atleast to bring back Genis-Vell from the comic book limbo, which led to a great mini series from Peter David, Genis-Vell: Captain Marvel...
@salmack8842
@salmack8842 2 ай бұрын
Yet Marvel still recognized X-Men legacy # 700. After all the reboots it still didn't seem like it even reached that number. Years ago when I was younger I always felt like I could have written a comic book because of the many books I read from both Marvel and DC in the 70's. This is the reason why independent comics are growing in popularity. They know enough to just put out mini series and how to tell a good story. Great job Wes.
@KainGerc
@KainGerc 2 ай бұрын
I'm not really going to miss this run of Captain Marvel, Alyssa Wong basically made the comic about this new Yuna Yang character that she failed to make interesting (kind of a Black Cat wannabe) with Carol becoming a side character in her own book. But the Doctor Strange book was entertaining and engaging, whether Strange, Clea or even Wong got the focus.
@TMF979Resurge
@TMF979Resurge 2 ай бұрын
Only thing by Alyssa Wong I own is the first Arc of her Deadpool run, and that was literally only because He's up against Doc Ock Now, that doesn't mean I'm happy that They completely disregarded Superior Spider-Man 2.0 and have literally gone around in circles since Dead No More, It's like a bad fucking joke Novel idea: give Octavius cancer As a result of failing health due to his career as a super villain and getting this shit kicked out of him by Spidey and a ton of other Heroes and even villains. Have him do a series of final schemes including using a satellite Network to create the world's ultimate heatwave and weaponize global warming only for The Avengers and X-Men and Fantastic Four and all other Heroes across the world to stop him and lock him up. Turns out this was all a ruse to keep everyone distracted while he initiates his true final contingency, being to swap souls with Peter using an octobot and let pet Peter die in his withering body. When dying wish and Superior Spider-Man came out, it was a legitimately intriguing idea, they hadn't done that yet, even though I'm sure a certain few other Heroes and villains had had a similar plot But they've done it three times over. It's lost any of the poignancy or iconic ness that the original story had Of course, I didn't know back then when I first discovered it, but Peter wasn't dead forever. And that was obvious, but the whole point of the story was rather than just stealing Peter's life and tarnishing his legacy deliberately, he learned humility and the error of his ways. And when Peter did die, Octavius Had a change of heart and vow to earnestly continue being Spider-Man in his stead. Now him struggling with it and being a lot more ruthless and arrogant in his approach? That was the whole point. It's Doc Ock trying to be Spider-Man and not knowing how to because he'd always been so selfish. Had to hand Peter's ghost back control of his own body at the expense of erasing his consciousness and memories. The whole impact and effect of the story was supposed to be that Yeah, Dr. Octopus, as far as the Prime dimension was concerned, is dead and gone forever. And then they just had to bring him back, had to Make some bullshit excuse as to why he'd forgotten all those lessons by saying it was a "backup copy" of his soul, hijacks equally convoluted disgraceful resurrected Ben Reilly's pseudo altruistic clone Resurrection plan by stealing a new body, And do a repeat of superior Spider-Man, this time as a separate entity from Peter, because we just have to keep on pushing that Spider-Verse envelope That turned into a tangent, and I'm sorry, but literally, I only bought Alyssa Wong's Deadpool to see him and Ock fight
@Zillawill
@Zillawill 2 ай бұрын
As a guy who reads a good 80-90% manga I absolutely hate when I'm reading comics and enjoying art and story only for them to change artists + writers, sometimes its wildly different too like in case of New 52 Batman art near the end, combine that with IMO stupid crossover events requiring you to read multiple comics to get the whole picture, I honestly dunno how you guys who have read pretty much only comics for years deal with it
@armoghetto
@armoghetto 2 ай бұрын
The people behind these books DO NOT CARE about the readers and the audience! If someone points out that they can make money off that new #1 or Special #1- then we just might see something. The idea of Doom being Sorcerer Supreme has been decades in the making as far as a major possibility.
@karaoconnoraliasraidra
@karaoconnoraliasraidra 2 ай бұрын
I honestly thought Doom had already become the Sorcerer Supreme because I heard someone say a year or two ago that he had. Maybe what I heard was just speculation, or maybe Marvel had tipped their hand enough at some point that people figured out what was coming, but yeah, it wasn’t surprising to me.
@Zudovader
@Zudovader 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit, captain marvel is on its 12th volume, so 11 reboots. I did not realize that, thats absolutly pathetic.
@Dunebat
@Dunebat 2 ай бұрын
I miss Mayday Parker. :(
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 2 ай бұрын
They retconned Carols origin just to diminish Mar -Vell's influence on her life. She no longer got her powers from him getting hit by an Omni wave beam while carrying her, turning her half Keee, now she's now been retconned to have a Kree mother and so was born with the power all along, and didn't need him, doesn't need a heroes journey or anything. Just dumb. They're destroying all the legacy characters one by one. And the newer Accuser is her half sister, clone spliced from her mother's DNA 🙄, and she's the bestest evah! So yeah, they had to remove Ronin, too. Speaking of him, they really should have kept him married to Crystal, to tie him to Earth, and they could have given him a half royal Inhuman child, who could have grown into the next Accuser in tje future, which would have been more interesting. But no, poor Crystal is stuck in single mom status again. Who's she with now? She was already with the Human Torch, Quicksilver, Black Knight, and Ronin.
@Nawona
@Nawona 2 ай бұрын
Ronan
@toonytube2444
@toonytube2444 2 ай бұрын
There is no excuse for these big companys not giving us great stuff. They should be ale to get the best of the best every time. For some strange reason they decided to let the worst of the worst do it now.
@davidmiddleton7958
@davidmiddleton7958 2 ай бұрын
Canceling Captain Marvel again is nothing new, and is a good thing! The recent Captain Marvel stuff is rubbish!
@new_yawker901
@new_yawker901 2 ай бұрын
I was enjoying Dr. Strange....especially with pasqual ferry on artwork. Danvers hasn't been written well since the busiek/perez era and very early 2000s of avengers.
@relickeep
@relickeep 2 ай бұрын
I like the Dr. Strange as well. I'm surprised it got cancelled.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the character died after Busiek Avengers run ended.
@drupiter517
@drupiter517 2 ай бұрын
It was my only monthly besides Fantastic Four left for me at Marvel, and I wouldn't be surprised if that gets canceled soon as well.
@relickeep
@relickeep 2 ай бұрын
@@drupiter517 I hope not. Ryan North on FF was the best.
@sardomarcrowe5723
@sardomarcrowe5723 2 ай бұрын
Can we get Marvel to roll this back to about.... 1985-1986 - when the old talent walked out went to work at DC? Right before the soon to be Image guys came in with great art. but insane plotlines?
@currybr
@currybr 2 ай бұрын
I think Marvel should reboot all their titles at -1. Have the numbering go down to -999. This will confuse the speculators, and confused speculators mean higher sales (as seen in the 90s). They can market the reboot as "enter the negative zone" or "buy now, it will only get worse in the future".
@HitoWei
@HitoWei 2 ай бұрын
Just curious y don't they just do like mini spinoff/mini issues (1-4) for those character they want to write instead for making a long series, They could reset every setting or background they like without polluting the main timeline or universe, then they could choose which projects work and add them as canon events or extent.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 2 ай бұрын
I never cared about the number of a comic, I’d buy a number 151 that I liked quicker than a number 1 of anything else.
@Skywalker3248
@Skywalker3248 2 ай бұрын
If they want a #1 with Carol to work, have her get accidentally hit by the Hulk, then have her get up, shake her head, look down at surprise at what she's wearing, the Hulk's hit having corrected a temporary insanity caused by cosmic radiation or something. She goes back to her Ms Marvel outfit, calls herself Ms Marvel again, her old personality returned. Kamala decides to retire (or she just never gets mentioned again). That might work.
@brianerickson6775
@brianerickson6775 2 ай бұрын
Maybe, the real problem is our education system. The Marvel/DC Staff just can't count past 10. Maybe, someone should tell them to hire someone, who can count using their fingers and toes. Maybe, we can comic book runs up to 20. 😁😁😁😁😁😁
@StillOnly25c
@StillOnly25c 2 ай бұрын
Doctor Strange: Master Of The Mystic Arts Omnibus Vol. 1 Frank Brunner Doctor Strange & Clea Cover Here’s is a good reason to be a Dr Strange Fan
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 2 ай бұрын
Bronze age DR strange is prime comics at their best! His silver age is pretty good too.
@Dreamfox-df6bg
@Dreamfox-df6bg 2 ай бұрын
Variant covers, I remember them well. Let's see them flop as they did in the 90's. It's just a question of time.
@totomen666
@totomen666 2 ай бұрын
best seller of week is shitty comic book with 15 different variant covers, whale shills carrying sales of shitty comics - just to collect all 15 covers. (or we can blame it on scalpes)
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 2 ай бұрын
Somebody who can look at more than one month’s worth of numbers at a time needs to check Tom Brevoort’s math. This is embarrassing to admit, but I’m still buying the current Batman run, even though I haven’t actually read it since the end of the Failsafe arc. Why am I still buying it? Because they haven’t rebooted it with a new number one. I’m going on inertia. The second they make me choose to start a new series, I’m out (unless they put a killer creative team on it)
@BradPlays81
@BradPlays81 2 ай бұрын
Perch has done some great videos on this with sales data. It gives you a 1 or 2 issue bump and then seems to accelerate reader loss.
@1977dajmo
@1977dajmo 2 ай бұрын
Cancel and reboot, terminate and resurrect, rinse and repeat...isn't that the same mentality that erased all stakes during the Krakoa era? Decades ago, comics were written by war veterans, men who knew from first-hand experience that death was serious. How many modern writers base their understanding of death on how it's portrayed in video games?
@Skywalker3248
@Skywalker3248 2 ай бұрын
Dr Strange has become Dr Shambles sadly.
@kazewolf88
@kazewolf88 2 ай бұрын
Wait... I recall that some creative said it wasn't about money but just getting "the message" out there. Now we're saying it is about money... you can't have it both ways. No wonder Marvel... comics as a whole is floundering.
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 2 ай бұрын
Brevroot basically said “our comics suck” without saying it lol😅
@MrRawnch
@MrRawnch 2 ай бұрын
Part of the problem is CGC. Now publishers release books with multiple covers and the staying power is usually about 10 books. Many of the buyers are into grading the most sought after variant in hopes of making a profit. I'd wager that most buyers don't even open the books to see if the story is good or coherent. Doesn't help that AI's can easily cop most Art germ and Peach styles because its what sells to the point of being overused.
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 2 ай бұрын
CGCing new books is the stupidest crap I’ve ever seen. Silver or golden age books I can understand. But new books? Who buys this crap?!
@dwaynemuth8775
@dwaynemuth8775 2 ай бұрын
Marvel has always dropped the ball on Dr Strange for over 50yrs and the only difference from back then is that eventually someone creative would step in and you got the Defenders and later Doc has his own solo title and though bimonthly he went on for years with Steve Englehart, Roger Stern and Chris Claremont just to name 3 writers who brought a helluva lot to the character! Blood stool for me is the last fn straw for me reading crossovers ever again! General Strange was lame as hell! Dr Doom becomes the Sorcerer Supreme? Certainly not that gd easy! I only read Bloodstoll 1-5 and the story was like watching film clips without any sort of narrative! The cash grab with the blood stains was pathetic! Get Fury and Hulk are about the only books I can read! The rest is rudderless nonsense garbage! DC is NOT doing any better either! GO INDIES!⚡️🎯❤️👍
@Josh-cn7ur
@Josh-cn7ur 2 ай бұрын
I was disheartened finding out there are no more Doctor Strange right now. They had a great opportunity to write about strange struggling to get the title back.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
Let's face the truth, Carol Danvers is a very boring character that can't maintain a solo book.Because she's always was a C-list character that just work in groups. I hope that your title takes a long break now.
@Julius.Council3
@Julius.Council3 2 ай бұрын
I hate in general that comics keep renumbering issues with every new writer. It's done wayyy too much. Just a pet peeve of mine.
@relickeep
@relickeep 2 ай бұрын
Are they rebooting She-Hulk for a third time?
@PureMaddnessOne
@PureMaddnessOne 2 ай бұрын
Carol Danvers was better when she was Ms. Marvel. Canceling after ONLY 10 issues? It was 11 issues 2 many.
@karaoconnoraliasraidra
@karaoconnoraliasraidra 2 ай бұрын
Doctor Strange: They wronged my character! U.S.Agent: First time? My first response to hearing Captain Marvel had been canceled was to laugh since Marvel has been promoting her as the end all, be all, greatest character of all time, but it is a shame for fans who wanted an ongoing series that they hoped would bring good stories. As a fan it really is wearisome to deal with all this, and to have to figure out what series a certain comic is from. All I can do is sigh when I see Captain America is now on his eleventh series because they keep hiring bad writers and then having to restart due to the writing being so bad. The recent Thunderbolts series (the one that had a cover that all but screamed, “This is to promote the movie!”) is number five. That’s not bad in and of itself, but the reason it’s the fifth series and not the fourth is Marvel came out with a five-issue Thunderbolts series the year before. To my knowledge, that series didn’t accomplish anything and sunk without a bubble. I think it was promoted as tying up loose ends from Devil’s Reign, but I think that was dropped very early on, so I really don’t know what the purpose of it was.
@tlou2isntcanon
@tlou2isntcanon 2 ай бұрын
That Captain Marvel art... Words fail me.
@tomfink7505
@tomfink7505 2 ай бұрын
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel spent a year putting out nothing BUT #1 issues.
@wesdashman
@wesdashman 2 ай бұрын
I love finding a good story. I sometimes happen upon them by accident, or a review pointed it out to me. I feel like when I’ve read a good comic, it’s very satisfying.
@justdjackson
@justdjackson 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Captain Marvel. I am annoyed that it ended. I like the Captain Marvel titles and Marvel is super annoying with the constant reboot. Give me enough run to make an omnibus before you reset it. Marvel doesn’t care about readers. Look at all the mini series and events they have in one year.
@doommega
@doommega 2 ай бұрын
this is a very very Fantastic episode here. because what you see in that article is what would more likely happen if you got one of these guys at a bar drinking some tequila and the business was discussed on full display and he would tell us why we are so wrong about books and the reasoning is exactly what tom is saying here. the bottom line is the money drives these terrible decisions and what you also get in this interview is " COMICS ARE NOT SELLING ' not in the sense they are saying it.. they have to Provoke the sales to move in their favor to do so.. imagine if they let Captain Marvel ran it's full course it would of never made it past 100 issues cause it's not a winner and now we see that same formula w Kamala , Miles and at one point they tried it w America and kate but Pivot to female versions of Moon Knight, the sentry and so on... this video may be one of the best examples of Understanding why these Books are Published in this fashion and aside from wes we have one of comics Most tired men telling us why ... DAMN this Episode is so GOOD!
@Sledhead
@Sledhead 2 ай бұрын
I got back into comics a year ago after about a decade out and this was the first thing i noticed about the industry, keeping up with new comics is hard enough without them being rebooted constantly
@saiyan_spawn4204
@saiyan_spawn4204 2 ай бұрын
Captain Marvel needed to be cancelled. Alyssa Wong is terrible.
@maximumdistractions
@maximumdistractions 2 ай бұрын
As the superheroes fade to obscurity, there's still plenty of great stuff outside of the spandex vigilantes. If superheroes are your only reading choice in comics, there are years of stuff in the back issues, often at lower prices than the new comics. If speculation and variant covers are what thrills you, take up stamp collecting. Seriously, speculation buyers are a cancer.
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 2 ай бұрын
Get over yourself.
@SwayRod836
@SwayRod836 2 ай бұрын
I'm always expanding my Tank Girl collection. I highly recommend this title for anyone looking for a great action comedy.
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 2 ай бұрын
Brevroot basically said “our comics suck” without actually saying it lol🤣
@mannfamily1992
@mannfamily1992 2 ай бұрын
I did have a positive reaction to the end of Dr. Strange, "Yea, one less book to buy!" But the solicitations did suggest that it was going to be a potential final issue. And it was a great solid 18-issue run - it was my favorite (current) Marvel book right now. (Spectacular Spider-Men is now in the position - a fun read.) However, this was the third series by MacKay, starting with The Death of Doctor Strange, which he remarks in the letter's page as being the culmination of a 33 issus. This will be the perfect size for a modern Omnibus - one I'd be willing to get. That said, the Bloodhunt event really ticked me off. I got the red band edition only to find out the extra gruesome cut-in-twain scene wasn't "canon" related to the regular book. And it seemed like every important Dr. Strange scene in Bloodhunt, was shown from a different POV in the main book. I gave my red band BH #1 back to my LCS (Cosmic Comix in MD), I was so disgusted by the bait and switch. [I was mad a Marvel, not them.] So, I didn't follow the rest of the series. One, because I didn't want to buy #1 again in the tame version. And two, MacKay seems to write better for solo characters than groups. (It wasn't as good - what do I care about these other Marvel characters - this isn't the pre-JMS ASM era!) Only to find out in #18 that the Doom "exchange" occurred in BH #5, where we get a minor multi-panel flashback!!! I loved the Death mini, bailed on the Strange (Clea) book, but picked up the latest series. It's hard maintain numbering when the creatives, especially the art changes so dramatically. DC can get away with it more, because they embrace their legacy numbering. Who doesn't remember the thrill of Simonson's Thor, DD's Born Again, and the Gray/Professor Hulk just organically happening in the regular title. But I was buying lots of Marvel's then and they were affordable (and great)! Comics are just too dang expensive these days. Kudos to Skybound for at least publishing $4 books. (I wanted to follow the new Geoff Johns titles, but the rollout of their new "universe" and the number of upcoming titles scared me away.) I'm a huge Spider-Girl fan and was one of the many fans working hard writing letters and appeals to support the book. I've got several pieces of Spider-Girl original artwork too (along with two letters printed.). She's a fantastic character and met a need when the regular ASM book was flounding for me, seeming to have been superseded by Ultimate Spider-Man. I'm glad Marvel is publishing her issues in Epic form now, and your viewers should really check her out. Having quality stories and talent on her book didn't ever giver her smooth sailing though. What I mean is that quality talent enough isn't going to sell books, especially in this market. But it's better than poor talent! Marvel has long since abandoned me for being a completist with their constant reboots and soft/hard retcons. These aren't the same characters that I grew up with anymore. So, I try to read just what I like for as long as I like. But I desperately want to follow a good, long run of a book (hopefully with a consistent team behind it). They just don't do that anymore - it may not even be possible. I definitely agree with some of your statements, but in Brevoot's defence, keeping the lights on is the number one priority from a business standpoint. They just need to make sure they do it to the best of their ability and with integrity. Don't bother putting out a book with a sub-par team/story just to drain our money based on a love for a character we follow. (I'm looking at you Daredevil. Although, the JRJR covers are nice , especially since Matt's clean shaven.) Lower the price on your titles, put out better content, rather than flooding the market with too much. Etc. Anyway, good topic today.
@warlion_2nas163
@warlion_2nas163 2 ай бұрын
11:00 I think the cancellation is just to stop stretching Mackay thin especially as he’s doing Avengers, X-men and whatever event is coming next which is probably about Doom since he has been building to Doom being a sorcerer supreme since Strange 1 (Clea’s run)
@Sigma-Epsilon
@Sigma-Epsilon 2 ай бұрын
Captain Marvel Carol Danvers should have Never Been Started Again!
@wesdashman
@wesdashman 2 ай бұрын
They should always make them 1’s No 2’s or 3’s. Just #1 for absolutely every comic.
@carljensen333
@carljensen333 2 ай бұрын
Ridiculous Blood Hunt. Millions upon millions either turned or a vampire meal, and they are all day walkers now which means neither humanity or mutants are apex. They upended the status quo of the planet and no heroes seem particularly in tune with that. Maybe Supreme Doom (hasn't there already been a couple of those?) will have it out with Dracula and revert vampires rather than kill them off with the formula. Plus Khonshu is still free and rather ticked off. Some of the individual issues of Blood Hunt were interesting, like Union Jack, but it tied up in a rushed feeling manner and left horrible hanging plot threads. As for Doc Strange, I didn't like that last series. I didn't like the floofy coloring or the delicate lines or the Clea pandering. Clea wasn't new to our dimension, she would have understood to temper her normal reactions out of respect for Strange if nothing else. Blech! Hopefully any new Doc Strange writers will understand the assignment. Magic, horror, weirdness, and Doctor Strange starring in his own book.
@artturner2054
@artturner2054 2 ай бұрын
Last time I wanted to read Captain Marvel was when I saw trade paperback of return of the Brood. I was hoping Carol got infected
@Barot8
@Barot8 2 ай бұрын
Both Marvel and DC need to get rid of a ton of crappy "writers".
@thehumancomet
@thehumancomet 2 ай бұрын
I cant imagine putting a self insert into a fan favorite character's book. I always think, I'm old, I dont look as good, life is too short for self indulgent vanity. But Alyssa Wong's narcissismn is amazing in a counter-profit way lol
@halphillips1775
@halphillips1775 2 ай бұрын
This is where I learned that Dr. Strange was cancelled.... what was that stuff about a new blue cape at the end then? I totally expected what you described, a continuing series where he fights back for sorcerer supreme...
@jasonirizarry9619
@jasonirizarry9619 2 ай бұрын
Going hollywood corporate is the slow death of the DC and Marvel comic universes.
@wmwhitedevil
@wmwhitedevil 2 ай бұрын
Totally agreed on rebooting a series with the same writer, but on the other side of that coin is this. I really would like Batman & Robin to be rebooted to a #1 issue. I really disliked Joshua Williamson's run, I had to stop after 5 issues and really don't like Phillip Kennedy Johnson being saddled with that. So now if I do want to read P.K.J.'s run (which sounds like it might be pretty dang good) I'll have a 8 issue gap in my collection with absolutely no desire to complete it or I will sell the 1st 5 issues and have my series start at #14. I might just skip it because I generally don't like having an incomplete series. This is a pretty tough decision that would have been an easy, definite buy for me if it was a new #1.
@greygremlin1248
@greygremlin1248 2 ай бұрын
Damn right they did Ms. Marvel wrong
@StillOnly25c
@StillOnly25c 2 ай бұрын
Man without a clue ? Company without a spine
@braviafeed
@braviafeed 2 ай бұрын
Dr Strange was the only modern comic I was still reading. Oh well
@walterlucero5757
@walterlucero5757 2 ай бұрын
Damn, that was the art in the last Captain Marvel comic?! That looked like someone learned to draw reading an old Chris Heart How to Draw book! There is no detail or volume in any of those panels! It's "meh, Good 'nuff" art! It's fuckin' criminal! Uninspiring! People wanna save comic books? Big part of it is to learn to draw better than that!
@stormcrow1970
@stormcrow1970 2 ай бұрын
The day is not far off when EVERY Marvel comic will be a new #1 issue. Why even bother with a second issue if there's always a bump in sales for #1, right Tom Brevoort?
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 2 ай бұрын
So they’re not really canceling anything. They probably need to cancel. There are too many comics very few people are reading.
@cobain2261
@cobain2261 2 ай бұрын
They really canceled Captain Marvel for the time being.
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 2 ай бұрын
And the comic shops make up the revenue how?
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
They should cancel 98% of all of their on-going monthly comic book series. 75% should only focus on Spider-Man, Wolverine, the X-Men, the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four. The rest of the company should just put the remaining 25% of the comics as only secondary characters that are special guest appearances. The 2% of titles dedicated to useless background characters don't even need to be published at all.
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 2 ай бұрын
@@incubustimelord5947 Fool
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeromemaida4933Fool? Could you at least say why?
@Skywalker3248
@Skywalker3248 2 ай бұрын
You could have stopped with just "Miles Morales, who cares about that?" 😅
@Xoulrath_
@Xoulrath_ 2 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I enjoy reboots. However, that comes with a MASSIVE CAVEAT. I enjoy the reboots of characters like my favorite Silver Surfer, because quite frankly, Cosmic level characters like him can be hard to right for on a regular basis and make the stories have any meaning and impact. Silver Surfer Black is a perfect example of how amazing a story can be when it's limited to a short run. And yes, I guess that technically Black was a limited series despite not being labeled as such (like they used to back in the day anyway). But then we move on to books like Immortal Hulk. It ends at 50, but from what I understand, it told its story then moved on to another arc. I've only just gotten started with the series, but so far it's been great. I don't mind that it will end. It's nice to have finality. Of course, on the flip side of that is the canceling of issues before they even reach a year if they aren't limted series. This is actually a big part of why I just stopped bothering to hunt down a decent comics shop, and just pick up highly recommended stories like Immortal Hulk once they get collected versions. This way I don't even have to bother with shortened runs and unresolved plots. I do the same with new television as well. I've gotten invested far too often into shows that I enjoy that get canceleled a week after release. No thanks. So yeah, the tl;dr is that rebooting CAN make a lot of sense. But clearly Marvel is just using this Co stant churn for short-term profit as mentioned in the video.
@rocketraccoon1976
@rocketraccoon1976 2 ай бұрын
Two (or more) Wongs (on the same series rebooted) don't make a right.
@soshiderek
@soshiderek 2 ай бұрын
No reason why their comics division can't capitalize on the MCU's big successes FP.
@ljkelty1766
@ljkelty1766 2 ай бұрын
That's a shame. Dr. Strange was one of the better series from Marvel. And, I hate all the constant #1's
@toonytube2444
@toonytube2444 2 ай бұрын
They should do a real reboot. Real new number ones. Not this fake-reboots.
@raiderbear1
@raiderbear1 2 ай бұрын
Awesome work mate
@jlm19551965
@jlm19551965 2 ай бұрын
When I was still reading comics new creative teams would often drive up sales. I am pretty sure Alan Moore taking over Swamp Thing increased sales and if I remember it was already issue #21
@patrickmoreau7592
@patrickmoreau7592 2 ай бұрын
Great points Wes You would think Tom not so terrific would of figured this out. If you need to keep rebooting at smaller numbers than the you will get the smallest number possible 1
@FlameForgedSoul
@FlameForgedSoul 2 ай бұрын
You are aware it says "Wonged" in the thumbnail, yes?🤣
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 2 ай бұрын
It's a double meaning. Wong as in Alyssa Wong and "wonged" because Alyssa Wong has wronged so much in the "mainstream" American comic book industry. So if you're reading a comic book and you see that the writer is Alyssa Wong, you already know that the comic book super-hero characters in the story have all already been shat on.
@ronmartin1375
@ronmartin1375 2 ай бұрын
It’s the fans that have been wronged. All the long time customers & supporters got screwed.
@mikem3543
@mikem3543 2 ай бұрын
Sadly, the identity politics have gotten so rigid and destructive that it has gotten to the point that when I see a female writer on a female character, I’m going to assume the writer was chosen for a reason unrelated to their talent, and pass on that book.
@brianmiklic5058
@brianmiklic5058 2 ай бұрын
A Doctor Doom, Sorcerer Supreme book vs a Dr Strange, Master of Mystic Arts title. Things like this would an interesting storyline but it is a dropped idea. Maybe, Strange Tales will return with the two doctors but I have no faith in a good idea being used.
@ea_gaming
@ea_gaming 2 ай бұрын
They should just make every issue a #1, that’ll maximize sales!!
@watchmanschannelofdespair
@watchmanschannelofdespair 2 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for kids today, they have no idea just how good comic were in the 80's, (60's, 70's, 90's -insert your favorite decade) especially compared to the mainstream books being produced the last seven years, or so, by Marvel and D.C.
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 2 ай бұрын
They were never all that popular a character, either of them. Maybe that's why they think they can reboot them constantly.
@ericbreen4340
@ericbreen4340 2 ай бұрын
"Next Great Captain Marvel Story " BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA . And everyone knows that the ONLY reason Captain Marvel made it to 50 was to equal the " Misogynist " Brian Reed Ms. Marvel series
@longtsun8286
@longtsun8286 2 ай бұрын
Well said.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Ай бұрын
Well good. If Marvel cancels "Captain Marvel", maybe people will stop referring to the REAL Captain Marvel as "Shazam".
@captainscomicsandcomments8079
@captainscomicsandcomments8079 2 ай бұрын
I really liked the Dr Strange book and agree, Wes, this whole Doom thing should've been a giant reason to keep Strange going. Marvel craps out again
@gentlesavage2068
@gentlesavage2068 2 ай бұрын
They should get joelle jones to write captain marvel, she could legitimately do something interesting or entertaining with that character
@hammerheadcorvette4
@hammerheadcorvette4 2 ай бұрын
I thought Captain Marvel was sooooo cooool 🤔 I'm shocked that they cancelled it ! Marvel even said it, "She's so cool" 😆😆😆😆😆😆
@pronouncedgooglewithat
@pronouncedgooglewithat 2 ай бұрын
Am curious to see what Marvel and DC’s numbers are for their omnibus/Absolute/TPB sales are vs. new releases. Marvel announces what seems like 10 new omnibus a month and now they’re all coming with variant dust jackets.
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