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[@Aerovelofficial]

Nice vid as always

[@AaaBbb-ff1pn]

i'm waiting for the viggen vs slow plane so you can explain energy management....

[@Anarchy_420]

Rafale VS Gripen T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Super Tucano VS P-51 SU-30MKI VS SU-33 F-18 Super Hornet VS F-22 F-35 VS SU-35 F-86 Sabre VS MB-339 Aermacchi J-10 VS SU-27 MIG-21 VS MIG-23 A-10 Thunderbolt VS MIG-19 MIG-28 VS MIG-29 Please fly the plane's on the left 👍

[@teehazmat]

Need to see the harrier back in action against a mirage

[@mathgasm8484]

can you do a ka 50 vs hind vid?

[@sircommander27]

"R A T E, not a rade, not a **rape** fight, although some times it feels that way" ~Growling Sidewinder 2021

[@gb7418]

Rape seed. Did you say grape seed or rate seed, or something? No, I said rape seed.

[@pietroferrari4279]

su 57 felon ptsd memories

[@josh_jc_cheng]

*scissoring intensifies*

[@Corporal_Idiot]

Heh. Rape fight. hehe.

[@CristianValenzuela2155]

My teacher gave me a rape fight, I've got a red one

[@michaelfishbeck384]

I like the "no altitude comment" .. as your literally carving the ground with your right wing!!!!

[@violinbird77]

"I'll make more of my own altitude by digging deeper into the ground."

[@Galm02]

@@violinbird77 *less

[@LordGingerBerry]

I haven’t watched the video yet but I already know it is worth my time, thanks man!

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

Change roles, you in the Gripen E vs someone else in the Mirage. It boils down to skill, which you have a lot of.

[@wurfyy]

This is something I've thought of myself - every time they do those fights, they should switch it up at some point.

[@TJP443.]

I agree that skill does play a huge part but also taking into consideration how well he can use different jets. Might be better with one jet than the other.

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

i believe its not the Gripen E, its the Gripen C.

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

Ah well, C, E, they should still swop planes.

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@reinhardtrossouw1879 ofc

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

Impatience in the rate fight cost him twice. As you've shown many times, when you're winning in the rate fight just hold off, don't cash everything in right away.

[@angela1984a]

It seems like this comes down to the skill of the pilot. Sidewinder is just better than that other person.

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

@@angela1984a SW is better than most people let's be honest. Timing is a skill in itself.

[@dsdy1205]

if you were in a server for example, taking your time might not be the best idea

[@rickmasseur2008]

There's a saying in photography: It's not about the camera; it's about the person behind it. Well... It's not about the aircraft; it's about the person flying it! Nice job as always, GS.

[@tomazpastore3618]

as a photographer myself i find this phrase awesome, and in your quote it was brilliant.

[@ATGG]

Talking shit about The 2000?

[@ylstorage7085]

well, actually it is a lot more about the aircraft than you think, just like the camera on the phones these days, with several lenses and automatic post processing. Pilots don't fly the planes anymore, pilots just tell the plane their intentions.

[@robdresser149]

One thing missing from these extended duels is the ability of the pilot to sustain high-g maneuvers over time. If you're turning and burning for 20 or 30 seconds, what do you have left physically at the end? Flight sims can replicate grey-out and blackout but not the endurance factor of a human body in a fight such as these.

[@OddElephantLTU]

Is it only my or does it feel like you have more energy and are more confident. Cause' if so, good job.

[@CaptainRasco]

Sometimes people think pulling the whole way back on the stick is the best decision.. they never learn, when they stall out in front of my guns! (Full disclosure : I fly the Dora 9)

[@Reaper_03-01]

Speed is energy; Energy is life.

[@piiumlkj6497]

@@Reaper_03-01 altitude is energy two so you can trade speed for altitude sometimes.

[@goose8447]

I like how you always highlight the T on the word ratefight now

[@gb7418]

Ra-Tuh fight

[@anonymous17367]

Thanks for accepting the request GS!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

My pleasure buddy, thanks for the suggestion

[@Peterax788]

GS why not throw the Rafale against the Gripen? See how it does

[@georgekotronakis903]

This

[@piiumlkj6497]

Because that would be a real rape fight ! The rafale is overpowered .

[@Karl-Benny]

@@ser43_OLDC Red Flag and all the other War Games Says otherwise

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@Karl-Benny exactly

[@Thaidory]

@@ser43_OLDC Any real world fighter usage is usually a tradeoff between how much ass can it kick once in the sky and how hard it is to get it to the sky to do the ass-kicking.

[@jett2753]

Best 2 fights I’ve seen so far and I’ve probably seen 40 videos, nice mate!

[@doncalypso]

"Oh yes... I've been looking forward to this!" --- Count Dooku ---

[@petrosdorizas6814]

Another victory for Greece in our war with Sweden, it's a good thing we committed to the crate fight.

[@viperzerofsx]

Ah yes the infamous Greeco-Swedish rivalry…

[@peterp4037]

Yep, sweden hates southern countries and they want to destroy them.

[@marioshadjikyriacou3381]

Τι μας έκαναν οι Σουηδοί;

[@ezragoldberg3132]

*Rape* -Fight

[@notravstar]

I've been waiting for this one!

[@benwelch4076]

Interesting result, skill and patience wins about every time. I'm sure I am not the only one who would like to see the Gripen and the Rafale have a bit of a throw down.

[@tomriley5790]

Well done - thought you were going to fly into the powerlines at the end :-)!

[@mortlet5180]

Great video as always, keep up the good work!

[@Matterian]

Great video! I love to see old school win against newer stuff. Eh 10 years difference but still cool non the less!

[@elishabiggs86]

hold up. Mirage dogfight and no Atè, that’s just not right. Still a great video though. Keep up the good work GS.

[@bobcrone6151]

Dude has a brutal laugh when he smokes those poor bastards 🤣 Great vid! Thx!!!

[@nallezpasvoiryarien6049]

Yess! more delta wings, finaly X) X) You should do one with the Raphale vs Gripen sometime.

[@SonnyKnutson]

@Growling Sidewinder Would love to see you do matches where you swap planes after. It would show that it's not just the simulated aircraft but also the pilot that makes the difference.

[@sudhannadandasgupta780]

@GrowlingSidewinder Dude another great vid and great manoeuvres! Little tip: against smaller size jets like the Gripen, when you are in one circle gunfight with a similar delta platform like Mirage 2K, perhaps a little bit of altitude relative to the bandit will give you much better attitude during deck transition, so much so that you’ll invariably gain a firing solution right at the cusp or onset of the transition thanks to the fantastic AoA that the Mirage can pull. But I am sure you already know that. BTW, how can I order your Hoodies from India bro??

[@Skayllan_]

i think that in that case the plane wasn't the thing in the fight, the pilot experience was what decided the fight.

[@abdulmoeez2633]

Great piece of hardware GS! Amazing videos ✌🏻

[@DIVeltro]

Just shows that the Mirage still has sharp teeth even after all these years...

[@svenschwingel8632]

There is something in taking a proven design over constantly trying to reinvent the wheel. A steady development has its perks.

[@gryzor]

Love how you had the strobes on, for easier finding by the Grippen :)))

[@tarangsharma6102]

01:03 the way he looked in mirror was SCAREY ..xd

[@Macovic]

Good flying. Two nice planes. The Mirage is like a somewhat younger manifestation of the Swedish Draken, though not related. And the Gripen a development of the Viggen.

[@StartX35]

damn I was really counting on a tac view to see what the hell that Gripen did when you went like "good job on that Gripen"

[@achismanbanerjee8385]

In the age of fox 2 and fox 3 GS: We will resolve our issues with guns only

[@Triple87]

Damn son, that first kill was knarly lmao.

[@kubaromanowski1453]

I miss the kill cams. Noticed that you are not doing them anymore. But still, great vid and awesome battle :D

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

tracks keep getting corrupted man, so I can't go back and get the slow motion kills

[@nucleargandhi101]

"It's not a rape fight, although it does feel like that sometimes" 😂😂😂

[@xaxac85]

Hey GS any chance of a classic war bird match up, P51 vs Spitfire? Could really use some tips to help me best my wingman/Rio.

[@zeekvanleer920]

Not “RAPE” fight although it sometimes feels that way. Lmao

[@roflcopterkerman4589]

Request. SU27 vs Mirage, I wonder who out AOAs who?

[@TheNicestPig]

I tried that already, 1 circle Mirage wins, two circle Su-27 wins

[@TheNicestPig]

@@myusername3689 yeah but it's still a bit worse than the Mirage in the 1 circle. That's probably one of the thing TVC helps with the most on the modern Flankers.

[@Appppy]

Hey, how often does fuel become a problem in DCS? As in, the fuel you took, wasn't enough.. and are there ways to deal with this other than using afterburner less, trying to conserve fuel? Like options for Ariel refueling etc.. in DCS

[@tachankathelord5996]

I waited for this

[@williamhedrick7983]

I would love to see the Swedes truly adopt a splinter camouflage pattern for the 39 like on the Viggen

[@toxicbrisk4_ash881]

Bro thx for making these vids like whenever I'm bored I think about jets just keep it up

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks for coming to watch them buddy

[@toxicbrisk4_ash881]

You're welcome

[@damiansback]

6:05 that was THEE most beautiful transition i have ever seen

[@TJP443.]

This video you had to say RATE so enunciated every time. JUST to make sure

[@tonyrun5802]

The great rematch, after literally years

[@antoniolombardo7319]

an Aermacchi mb 339 vs Mirage 2000 may be an interesting video; good old France vs Italy fight

[@Dbo3fly]

Good fight to our random Gripen. That had to be a tough fight.

[@matto9734]

There is physics and ingenious fighter designs and the there is the skills of GS disrespecting all odds ;-)

[@VivekKumar-je3pg]

It proves, old is gold and technology is not everything. What we need is a good man behind the machine.

[@muhammadidlanhazimazrin9936]

Hi, I would love to see jf 17 thunder vs f16 viper do dogfighting or F15 eagle vs MIG 29 I hope you can do it

[@teapilas]

Holly molly I haven't realized how good the gripen is turning

[@umarc9767]

Graphics were amazing on this one!

[@Blazs120gl]

Nice situational awareness! The Gripen pilot made several unnecessary turn reversals right into your pipper. Sometimes it seemed he just aborted rate fights he was winning.

[@TheFanatical1]

You always say its a R A T E fight and for the longest time I had no idea that it was short for "turn-rate fight"

[@douglasgarcia7757]

I would like to see you at the Gripen controls.

[@MrAcuta73]

Question: What had the better thrust:weight? Few times there I would have turned and burned for energy, assuming equal or greater thrust. Those canards gonna eat you in thick air.

[@pixy166]

got the Mirage today and as a newb this thing whips around so easily and I love it... but the gun reticle is so counterintuitive I have no Idea how to aim the thing correctly

[@robyn5623]

Love to see the Mirage again. How would the Gripen do against the Rafale?

[@John_Redcorn_]

Probably worse

[@brandonferris8934]

When you end up on the deck in the disadvantageous rate fight, can you extend and run before the Gripen starts coming around the circle on you?

[@btkchaosreaperj.c7642]

Shows how it's not the better plane but the better pilot that matters at the end

[@Experiment-ft3hg]

Hmmm sounded like you were saying " rake" fight to me. LOL

[@carcamp5451]

French Queen Mirage. Always legendary.

[@CircuitCatWT]

I always hear Rake (those tools to sweep up leaves) fight

[@romeovictor6223]

Im just chuckling as now GS says rate with an overly pronounced T now. Beautiful.

[@renegadeoffunk2588]

That first kill was absolutely beautiful. I actually yelled out when you landed that shot. May have to try out the Mirage next Also we really need to see some bf109 play in these clouds

[@f900ex5]

I'm here for the rake fight :)

[@shubhamde3205]

Both the kills were outstanding....

[@charliecain1424]

good stuff

[@Solinanis]

Omg, that high pitched beeping gave me a headache 30s in.

[@ATGG]

For the record, the H.A.F. is not using 2000's. According to their website, they use the 2000-5 and 2000 EGM/BGM Versions. But still, great Aircraft.

[@hel1nas]

HAF still uses Mirage but soon it will not since they are going to be replaced with Rafales

[@ATGG]

@@hel1nas They just did. 3-5 days ago. And I didn’t say they weren’t using Mirages (6 months ago). I clarified which variant. I’m saying they were using the 2000-5 and the 2000 EGM/BGM vars.

[@hel1nas]

@@ATGG I was referring to 2000EG (Hellenic Variant of C )which are quite similar to 2000C. The 2000-5 will not removed from service. It was part of the agreement for 2000s to be given to FR but not six months ago.

[@ATGG]

@@hel1nas Οκ φίλε. Οκ.

[@Shizo2002]

do you need speed to turn faster i a raiT fight or you need to be slow ? i mean the sukhoi slows down to do the cobra and turn fast

[@nunucello]

Nice work

[@blinthepannkek6173]

That kill on the 1st round is so satisfying holy shit

[@josephbishop3231]

First round that reversal was elite

[@Elusive_loki]

You should put more heli videos up really like them

[@mnd7381]

Do Russian vs European fighters. I guess Typhoon, Ralafe, Gripen is for mainly against Sukhoi and Migs.

[@JazzJaRa]

There is no Eurofighter for DCS yet though :(

[@mnd7381]

@@JazzJaRa Hope it'll come soon then :)

[@benjaminmatte5225]

The old Mirage 2000 had a damn strong pimp hand, good fighter

[@Topbuzzr]

great video

[@paez4779]

Also would like to see Gripen vs Flanker.

[@SnaketheJake87]

Here's your raid fight for the KZbin algorithm

[@paulman1970]

The Mirage, Rafale, Eurofighter, and Gripen look like the same plane more or less. All Delta wings.

[@bobbydiditall395]

I wonder if the result would be the same if the pilot of the gripen was as good as you... i swear i saw a couple of moments where you would've died if the JAS driver was more patient

[@avramnovorra]

Mirage still has it! Does the Mirage 2000D or N variant exist in DCS tho?

[@stutzpunkt]

Great fights

[@k9transfer444]

I thought it was pronounced "tickle" fight. Boy, I was waaaayy off...

[@KhanGirey]

Is there a good que when to use aileron turn vs rudder turn?

[@Anarchy_420]

Rafale VS Gripen T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Super Tucano VS P-51 SU-30MKI VS SU-33 F-18 Super Hornet VS F-22 F-35 VS SU-35 F-86 Sabre VS MB-339 Aermacchi J-10 VS SU-27 MIG-21 VS MIG-23 A-10 Thunderbolt VS MIG-19 MIG-28 VS MIG-29 Please fly the plane's on the left 👍

[@Wokefolksuck]

‘Ate’ would be proud!

[@N3003Q]

It'd be funny if you narrated a dogfight in one of Novalogic's games... either MiG-29, F-16 or F-22.

[@joseochoa8386]

Sounds very interesting, I would assume they are both the same?

[@ThePaulv12]

Shooting copious hot projectile into another's rear end (or face) against their will, pretty much means there should be 'p' in rate rather than a 't' don't you think?

[@alpine7313]

Ahhh, RATE fight, I was so confused why you and your opponents were always trying to out-rape one another. Glad you cleared that up.

[@simaddiction]

This may be a stupid question, but after watching so many videos of people flying in DCS, why does every single fight start with a high altitude merge and end up on the deck in a rate fight? Is that how it would work out in real life or is that just the way virtual fighting works out?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

this is due to dumping the nose to gain energy as the fight goes on, you're constantly using gravity to help you gain energy and youre converting that energy to nose position trying to get the kill, over time dogfights will drag down, unless 1 bandit is actively working to keep it high altitude due to some advantage they may have at the higher altitudes.

[@fdhugo1]

Any Chance of doing the SAAF Cheetah vs. the Jas39?

[@tristanroper]

what IS the diference between a 1 circle and 2 circle?

[@oscarbergner]

Cant you try to get in contact with a real swedish gripen pilot and fight in DCS that would be so cool to watch!

[@einar8019]

I mean id say we need a propper module for the gripen first

[@fishfinger1699]

the mirage beeping is so obnoxious… great video still!!

[@ZekeMM25]

Look at it this way....at least you don't have Jester bailing out on you.....

[@nyambe]

How are you so good? Wow

[@LoganBecker_]

Hey GS how come you don't use missiles??