Grilling JR #37 Bret Hart's 2010 return to WWE

[@troywright359]

The image of Bret being alone at the studio going over and analysing matches and segments to go in the DVD makes me smile. That's how I always imagined him doing it

[@theungreatkahli]

A perfectionist.

[@DroDoesDesigns]

Podcast starts at 6:20

[@Spursfan1527]

Alejandro Valentino 🐐

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

God bless you for this!

[@menjose6594]

The real mvp

[@kdr3619]

These guys talk so much smack ... amazing as their wrestling content is. So thank you.

[@robertbothwell8579]

My man!

[@VERDICTInsanity]

My friends all loved Warrior and Hogan.... nah, give me any Brett Hart match over any of their matches, his entrance told more of a story than their matches

[@grahammcintosh240]

Whos Brett

[@theungreatkahli]

^Bret

[@djangofett4879]

​@@theungreatkahliBert?

[@josephskates4440]

Just to think anyone under the age of 20 didn’t get to see Bret Hart work ! Call him a moaner full of himself bitter call him what you like he was everything he said he was

[@Kravis63]

Alex no need to be sorry, you couldn’t have said it any better!

[@HhhHhhh-nu4lm]

Time for some number crunching, as Dave looks at both WWF and WCW and compares TV ratings and house show attendance numbers for the last 5 years in great detail. There's a lot of numbers and stuff here but I'll try to sum it up easily. When it comes to WCW, they're obviously in the midst of their hottest run ever. But there's a misconception that WCW winning the cable ratings war is some new thing, when in reality, WCW has pretty much always beaten WWF in cable ratings, with the Saturday Night show beating early Raw and Prime Time ratings all the time, but they weren't in prime time. And no one really paid attention until the companies began going head-to-head on Monday nights. The truth is, yes, WCW is winning the war but the alleged "decline of WWF" is overrated. 1996 was WWF's strongest house show year since 1991, even though their TV ratings have hit new lows. But overall, WWF is still doing strong business everywhere else and TV ratings haven't shown to have that much effect on ticket sales. In fact, WWF's house show business grew at a faster rate than WCW's did last year and with increased ticket prices, their house show business became even more profitable. There's a perception from people who believe the Monday night ratings are the entire business and believe WWF is in trouble because they're losing the ratings war, but overall, they're still pretty strong (I find stuff like this interesting, because the revisionist version of history is that WCW damn near put WWF out of business until Vince heroically fought back and conquered his enemy. Reality is, they were never even remotely in danger of it and aside from TV ratings, they were doing their best business in years on every other front. Sure, they were a distant second in TV ratings but in all other aspects of the business, WCW was only barely winning).

[@theungreatkahli]

He and Steve Austin had my 2nd favorite feud in wrestling.

[@barryallen871]

What are you talking about? Anybody can watch any Bret match they want at anytime. Are you talking about in person?? Because a majority of Bret's fans never got to see him in person.

[@jenniferbryan5775]

@1:09:10 There is a discussion about Bret not appearing the next day at Wrestlemania. It's been discussed repeatedly that Bret was advised and/or had advised the WWE that not attending may be best simply because when you are a stroke survivor, the auditory impact of that many fans can cause ABI patients to have a negative emotional reaction. Sometimes, for ABI patients, it's best to pick the dates you attend events because you only have one night and the next, you are completely exhausted which causes inappropriate or negative emotional reactions to happen.

[@farid6072]

I just discovered your podcast. This is gold. Listening to Jim Ross and Conrad give us this gem with Jim and Conrad's wisdom and knowledge. Grateful :)

[@foxpro2680]

Such a good show. Conrad and JR are always entertaining and enjoyable to listen to.

[@MW-cx3sb]

I honestly don't like either as people but they are good to listen to about pro wrestling.

[@jmendoza2003]

If Bret hadn't got the Stroke, he might have got involved with WWE after the Hall of Fame in terms of storylines and guest appearances like for example, he was invited for the 15th anniversary of Raw but he turned that down. It was rumored had he appeared he would come out at the end of the show where Vince McMahon was about to announce who is the greatest Raw superstar of WWE Raw history. And he would punch McMahon and put him in the sharpshooter. Since he did not appear, Mankind took his spot. Also, Bret Hart was planning having WWE published his Autobiography but he withdrew because they wanted to edit a lot stuff he wrote on his book. There were a lot of possibilities for him to come back before then. But hey he finally ends up coming back in 2010 the rest is history.

[@countof3everybodyOD]

44:03 JR I love ya but to this day if Shawn got gully Bret would tie him in knots

[@Nick-ui1wt]

CTE discussion broken up with ball grooming chat! My gaaawd great timing

[@josevanderlinde2404]

Forever and always my favourite Wrestler: Bret Hart!!!!

[@BASEMENTWORKOUT-s2o]

Mine too 1st saw Providence 1995 kiss my foot match house show 3rd row

[@NesDogg]

One of my all time favorites.

[@the-NightStar]

1:12:20 as somewhat of an authority on WWE Entrance themes, I think I can answer that question JR seems to not know. It wasn't the Hart Dynasty theme that played, I just went back and listened to it. It was a brand new, re-recorded remake of Bret Hart's theme song done just for this. The idea is that Jimmy Hart co-producd the old theme and so they had Jim Johnston redo it in a new version so that they wouldn't have to pay any royalties on it. But yes, Conrad is mistaken, that was NOT Hart Dynasty's theme. It was a Bret Hart 2010 Remix.

[@Ijustinsultedyou]

You’re not an authority on anything.

[@benzion8885]

Correct about the song but wrong about the royalties

[@johnnersinger9771]

I like the original

[@tylegend1986]

JR, get you some collards and black eyed peas this new year.

[@crashintonickdm]

The machine protects Shawn so much to this day lmao

[@gojirajenkins8528]

I like how this has nothing to do with Ric Flair, but Conrad finds a way to mention his Father-in-Law with a ratings shot at Bret over the HOF ratings

[@rockingjamie]

hahaha ah man, listening to JR talking about cuts on the nutsack is just about the funniest bit of podcasting I've ever listened to!

[@JamesCarmichael]

Loved Bret as a kid. Started to get put off by a lot of his comments about his fellow wrestlers crew for the last few years, but I ultimately now think he has a lot to be angry about. He should let these things go for his own mental sake, but I do understand at least. People screw you in work and life. It's tough, but you have to rise above it and move forward.

[@christiancharles2866]

Bret is one of the greatest tag team and singles wrestlers of all time. He has a reason to be upset about everything that happened. Owen, Davey, Neidhart and Pillman are all dead. Even with the screwjob his career was amazing.

[@brianpair2934]

JR must have forgotten about the leg injury. Even Bret admitted to McMahon that he faked that leg injury so McMahon would think he was hurt so he would accept the match. JR said the leg injury angle was to protect Bret and his limitations in the ring now.

[@cleftturnip7774]

anyone else having audio crackling and popping problems with some of these videos?

[@gregoryturner9530]

All of em :(

[@FredDoGG1985]

31:45 i busted out laughing

[@x610chil]

JR stares at his kids texts in "Bah Gawd!"

[@Kjraider2009]

JR has too much fun with the manscaping commercials lmao.

[@josephboza7448]

You cant call ng it a coincidence that Vince wanted Bret to return on this date. Impact going to Monday was a bigger deal than JR wanted to admit. By Wrestlemania they were back on their original night.

[@ajpinto8511]

Jr you forgot to mention Cowboy Cowboy Cowboy. Herrrrrrr

[@anto-mac]

Just think if Montreal never happened a little over 3 years later we could have had angle vs bret then 4 years later lesnar vs bret and he still would have only been in his mid 40s wat could have been

[@hjq0023]

Doesn't matter if Montreal happened or NOT. Stupid ass Goldberg kicked Bret Hart so hard in the head that he ended his career because of concussion

[@1776Sledge]

Bret Hart is the GOAT of wrestling. No one comes close.

[@AV-bz2zv]

Conrad with that idiotic “asking bruce how big was Batistas...well you know...” before going into asking people to using his business... who the hell uses that type of joke when trying to get new customers!? Even the fans who know him it just sounds cheap and unprofessional. So I can’t imagine being someone who doesn’t know wrestling. There would be no chance in hell I’d ever do business with his company. 🤔🥴

[@jonfranks6902]

JR can’t blame fans for thinking it was a scripted bury the hatchet 🪓 scene with Brett and Shawn. Most promos, like over 90% are scripted and rehearsed beforehand no matter how dramatic.

[@FilmThePoliceFTP]

Bret seems to have let go of quite a bit of the past, yet, at the same time, still seems bitter toward, for example, Goldberg, Bischoff... I’d love to see him let go of some of that.

[@crashintonickdm]

FreedomBeanSteve has every right.

[@FilmThePoliceFTP]

@@crashintonickdm about Owen sure but at what point is it time to let go of his animosity toward bischoff? Sometimes it comes of as just another thing to be bitter about. I hate to see one of the GOATs to hold on to so much toxicity

[@tylerdame326]

He has every single right to be pissed.

[@tylerdame326]

@@FilmThePoliceFTP Imagine if your career was sabotaged by an incompetent moron like Eric Bischoff. You would be pissed off too.

[@philippecloutier3991]

Agreed, I'd like to see him at peace, he deserves it.

[@hjq0023]

The New Hitman music in 2010 was dumb

[@velocityadventures949]

Jr talking about shaving balls 😂😂😂

[@oneshotperrotte1541]

I would have loved to see bret and Shawn team up! Just wasn't meant to be.

[@hjq0023]

Actually there is a dark match where Breat and Shawn teamed up. Look it up. You'll like it kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqfVqGmreJ54Y8U

[@hjq0023]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqfVqGmreJ54Y8U

[@theryanprasad12]

The Hartbreakers. I always used to makethis tagteam in all the wrestling video games 😝

[@danthemancushecan]

@@hjq0023 thought I was the only one who knew about it.

[@christiancharles2866]

They did have a tag team match and teamed up

[@tammyforbes2101]

I never liked the hearts I always felt like they was their own biggest fans! Just not my type of people sorry!

[@brianpair2934]

Well since you can't spell Hart......

[@amandaburnham8124]

@@brianpair2934 I was thinking the same thing lol.

[@NS-qc3bv]

After everything that happend to his family. His brother i think he will always have reservations with wwe but what a legend, waiting for the next hhh shoot lol

[@sonnycrockett9900]

Where's the podcast?

[@marcoluca9232]

It's not a matter of if it's a matter of how much.

[@aaronosborne9719]

JR I love ya, but plz turn the ads down to level 9 at least, from the 10 the dial is on, plz...

[@Ken9284]

Wwe did have sone good guest hosts. But Shaq, Bob Barker and Miller were my favorites.

[@FilmThePoliceFTP]

Dot dot dot 😂

[@adamsmith2758]

Conrad stops spewing garbage from his shit mortgage brokerage @ 1:25

[@knotslip2542]

Which also happened to be the 1st night tna went to Monday night. Pretty sure that was a major factor in his return. It wasnt a "making peace" Just saying... If tna wasn't going mondays, this wouldnt of happened.

[@NIRO_II]

If Shaun hadn't existed, screwjob wouldn't have happened, curtain call wouldn't have happened (Shaun asked vince), stone cold wouldn't have happened, Owen wouldn't have died (Shaun n pals buried him)... any more i left out lol?

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

That is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read and we are all dumber for reading it

[@officespace7777]

I'm leaning towards that the Montreal screwjob was a work.

[@theungreatkahli]

That is what Scott Hall said.

[@christiancharles2866]

It wasnt

[@orestodomundo6652]

If anyone wants to know more about the Screwed documentary check Bret’s reaction to it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3-6e2CQl7F-hpI

[@gdjones6325]

Mcmahon knew what he was doing at survivor series 97. The controversy of it all would give the company so much attention. The man's is an evil genius.. At least he was then

[@ericlofstrand]

McMahon's cognition now is the wrestling version of Joe Biden

[@ShaneTumminello]

@@ericlofstrand Not even close. Vince is way sharper than Biden.

[@christiancharles2866]

@@ericlofstrand Meekmahan is evil like Trump

[@thelaymaneveryman]

Jim Ross is a legend in wresting but not as a wrestler ask Harley Race, Flair, The Funks if the NWA belt was just a prop. It does not mean you won the belt in a legit contest between men. It means you are in the companies and fans eyes the best and deserve to make the most money. Its really only non-wrestlers in the wrestling business that hold this view. There are exceptions but most of those guys were mid card guy who did not draw top PPV or live crowds. This is why wrestling is having problems today as the belt is treated as a prop and therefore is meaningless. Why would anyone watch a Main Event title match if the belt means nothing.

[@Davidsmith-yd1vq]

Who did Bret wrestle after goldberg?????

[@crusher5434]

Kevin Nash. Took a power bomb

[@dave1283]

Why would you wonder how big Battista's...well, you know...is??

[@travismurell5228]

Who the hell said their would be a fight?

[@thebeliever790]

29:34 😂😮

[@timsmith1033]

Negative 3 stars daaaaaaaamn lol

[@j.uiriagain9813]

It probably got enough heat on Vince to get the Mr.McMahon character as over as he is and was. Without that we wouldnt have had the Stone Cold feud. Without that wed probably be watching Nitro. Everybody made a lot of money and surely the sting of losing a worked belt to your now former employer (in a sympathetic manner without even doing a clean job) The fact that Bret came back and made amends suggests that he was angrier at Vince for Montreal than he was over Owen.

[@nickr4837]

'Bret screwed Bret ' nuff said

[@Ducksfan76]

Manscape?? WTF

[@SigmaChicken09]

23:00

[@biglandoz]

GO VOLS!

[@oskarsalvador7414]

Too much talk in beginning.

[@diontenelson1116]

A Mutual mistake

[@kingrobthegreat7446]

HOW MUCH DID THEY PAY BRET FOR THE MATCH?? im dyin to know.....

[@kingrobthegreat7446]

@Citizen Beeswax how do you know that?

[@kingrobthegreat7446]

@Citizen Beeswax The number seems fair to me b/c of what they did to him in 1997. I looked it up on Google but couldn't find it. Do you have the link by chance. Just curious

[@Bsfnelz20]

@Brian Hacker 😂😂😂👌👌👍👍💩💩

[@Ken9284]

Lobster pot pie

[@travelreview5962]

It's Vinces belt. If he doesn't want it on WCW or he wants to beat someone in any form or fashion he has the right to do so. Brett overreacted big time.

[@jusbertmeza4424]

That’s not how it works. Bret couldn’t take the WWF belt to WCW because it’s intellectual property and everyone knows that. Bret was willing to drop the belt before he left. He was still suppose to be in the WWE for another month until he was released so Vince could have still taken it from him within that time frame. He just wanted to embarrass and disrespect Bret in his home country to his new prodigy micheals

[@travelreview5962]

@@jusbertmeza4424 man Vince had advertised that match and that angle for months and the future matches scheduled depended on Bret losing that night, the belt was scheduled to come off him that night wether he quit or not. They tried 100 different ways to take the belt off Brett and here turned literally everyone down. It's not the promotions responsibility to take the belt off you in a convenient way for you lol. Plus Brett tells the story that he wasn't going to drop it to Shawn no matter what and if you haven't heard him say that then you're on the wrong end of the pool.

[@jusbertmeza4424]

Garrett Jeffers of course he wasn’t going to drop the belt to Shawn he disrespected him no part of kayfabe and he understandably stood his ground. If Shawn disrespected undertaker you would probably have a different opinion on his understanding response of not wanting to push him over. And this notion of Bret turning everything down is nonsense. Jim Cornette himself the architect of the screw job said Bret ran a few ideas off them that were actually good like him losing the title to taker then taker losing it to Shawn on Monday night as a storyline for Shawn. And these were proposed before they made the match official. The idea that there was no other way other than disrespecting the champion in his home country is absurd. Idk why your defending WWEs decision to backstab their star wrestler wether you like them or not. Vince just did it out of spite of Bret going to WCW even though Vince forced him to leave by breaking their contract because he couldn’t afford the contract he gave Bret. Vince and the WWE were in the wrong plain and simple.

[@travelreview5962]

@@jusbertmeza4424 okay, I recall what cornette said a little bit differently but I do see your side. Tbh, I've always seen your side. For many years I felt like Bret was screwed. However has ive gotten older and watched how Brett let this bother him for almost 30 years, and read his book which is full of bitterness and what appears to be a lot of fictional situations my opinion has changed. You're a grown man, a professional, you operate in a real but fixed environment. If someone tells you to lose, you lose. That's your job. Guys lose in ways they do not want to every single day, right or wrong. You're getting paid millions of dollars. Hell man I've seen idk how many college athletes lose very real championships after there NCAA decides someone in their train broke some recruiting rules, and what do they do? They say damn that sucks but they move on. Like I said I see your point and at this point I hope you see mine too. Brett never won that belt, it was given to him. Just like it was given it can be taken away. That's the job. As far as Taker you're right i do respect him more than Brett and that's because he would've never handled this situation like Brett did. He's just a sore loser. 🤷‍♂️

[@jusbertmeza4424]

vincentrich - Banned But Not Forgotten Bret couldn’t take the belt to WCW you a clown lol. It’s intellectual property

[@fidelcastro6931]

I've always thought the kick he took looked ginger as fuck. He wasn't hurt. I could've took it. He had guaranteed money. Goldberg didn't hurt bret and I truly believe that.

[@markprescott6477]

Goldberg’s kick singularly is not what ended him in the ring, it was Bret continuing to wrestle for weeks after continuing to take more unprotected bumps to the head and getting most likely another concussion in one of his last matches. A lot of speculation on if Bret would have just took a break after goldberg and gave himself a chance to heal. But Bret would have been CRAZY to miss out on all that money if he wasn’t legit hurt. Wrestling was white hot in 1999/2000 and I’m sure he would have came back to WWE had it not been for the injury. Just think, Bret would have only been 43/44 and we would have most likely gotten Bret vs Angle. I myself do believe Bret was legit hurt and it cost him major money.

[@fidelcastro6931]

@@markprescott6477 yeah

[@jonsnipe5484]

Hey just forward video than run it back.. No ads

[@bgootz1297]

No ads on this video.. Hard fail on your part.. Lolol

[@jonsnipe5484]

@@bgootz1297 theres no ads when u forward video and play it back

[@jusbertmeza4424]

Brian Gutierrez yes there is🤦‍♂️ it’s like 10 of them

[@the-NightStar]

get fucking ad-blocker if you're going to whine about it.