Spahn Ranch - Charles Manson Location

[@MetalRush666]

Glad you compared their pictures and matched the shots. It really made the journey a true time machine.

[@zombiegunner3arc82]

Converge 🤘🏻

[@heidibrydson3793]

They ran a horse stable, I rode their every Friday night in 1969. I saw many of them get the horses ready. The place creeped us out. Then when it all hit, it was surreal.

[@joejones9520]

Wow!

[@chloekit4861]

Did you meet Charlie and his followers?

[@heidibrydson3793]

@@chloekit4861 I don't think Charlie was around, but many of his followers got the horses ready, and I talked to them. They were what we considered Hippies, flower children.

[@the_ltz_guymaster7912]

Full of shit

[@persistentlypathetic6820]

Are you in your 80s?

[@corrinafrench7709]

Your ability to superimpose photos and locate locations are phenomenal..thank you for giving us these great videos

[@grimmlifecollective]

Thank you Corrina, I’m glad you found us

[@jjcaron72]

This channel is one of my favourites!!!!!!

[@Tuning_Spork]

@@grimmlifecollective But the "ME" arrow at 11:30 doesn't match the video at 11:40. My spatial awareness tells me that -- if you follow the arrow -- you were standing somewhere in that 3-way intersection outside of the corral. And, another mistake is that you forgot to bring a guitar, sit on the Manson rock and sing "Look at Your Game, Girl".

[@leannrunge4827]

@@grimmlifecollective fyghk

[@shable1436]

@@grimmlifecollective this isn't the first vid I've seen of the cave superimposed but the latest one, I like that you do all kinds of movie locations on west Coast that us east coasters don't get access to

[@nickx1754]

"It's all history, whether we like it or not." Right on. Don't erase history, learn from it so it might not happen again! Thank you for the videos, I really enjoy this channel.

[@peterm1826]

Yep kept alive by morons & Tarantino manson got his entire Helter Skelter idear from the fountain of the world cult leader Krishna Venta who was blown up in 1958 by two members of the cult they used 10 Sticks of dynamite shame it didnt happen to manson

[@yanni2112]

like the Confederate flag?

[@JULIOHERNANDEZ-cy7sq]

@@peterm1826 Tarantino is cool

[@rockettcustoms6266]

Too bad people DON'T learn from it! People are stupid!

[@irenec7665]

@@rockettcustoms6266 I was gonna write ‘people aren’t stupid’ but they really are. They don’t know history cause no one told them and they don’t know how to do ANYthing without instructions or a teacher telling them.

[@nicholasschliesman9011]

It's amazing how in such a short period of time that something like that ranch can be torn down and removed and nature basically take back over. You can hardly tell something was there. Thank you Michael for sharing.

[@Tarantulisimo]

It was actually a long process over years & decades....the movie sets were already over 20 years old & pretty dilapidated/run-down by the time the Mansons moved in; then the authorities tore up & wrecked a lot of sh*t during their numerous investigations; & in 1970 there was a huge fire that destroyed almost all of the remaining buildings...Then over the next 40 years, whatever remained was either bulldozed over or pushed into the ravine, removed, taken/stolen/vandalized, or reclaimed by nature....I know that as recent as the last 5-10 years, people have dug around & still found bits & pieces of wood, brick, cars, trucks, furniture....

[@TomG1555]

@@Tarantulisimo There a photoset which can be found by Googling "cielodrive spahn ranch"; most of it is of the arrest of Manson at Spahn, but the last one is of SR after the fire: it shows there was very little in the way of structures left post-fire, just piles of debris.

[@randywoodworth5990]

The same with the Ed Gein farmhouse, no trace just grass, weeds, and trees.

[@debi1451]

Every time I hear about the Manson family , All I can think about is the horror that Sharon Tate suffered and her poor baby!. They were soulless monsters.

[@HeySteef]

LSD do weird things with ya.

[@renatawarec]

@@HeySteef they weren't high

[@SenoritaTorres1]

Syyr553 they weren’t even on drugs those two nights. That’s the scary thing.

[@waltersobchak7275]

@@HeySteef did boatloads of LSD never carved anybody up

[@partymonsterblogzam]

Yes

[@bumpyproductions4001]

I requested a spahn ranch video when y'all announced your trip to LA and grimmlifecollective delivered!! Thank you so much!!!

[@emmabovary1228]

Let’s never forget that these people who portrayed themselves as Love, were ready, willing and able to slaughter a woman who was ready to deliver a baby, an innocent 18 year old who begged for his life, another man who was stabbed over 50 times, another woman who screaming could be heard for a great distance and called out for her mother and another man who tried to stop the love of his life from being terrorized and knifed hung and begged for her life. Manson and his group indulged themselves every day, and then they used their Love to ruin generations of their victims families. Like Mrs. Tate said, “When am I going to get paroled?” God rest their weary souls.

[@Tarantulisimo]

Nobody had ever forgotten the victims -- we all know the story, the names, the events.....this video is in no way glorifying the killers

[@p.j.morris]

@@Tarantulisimo of course it is.

[@randywoodworth5990]

What Manson and his group did pretty much ended the whole summer of love thing in 1960s.

[@superbee-di5tp]

I wish people would stop going there. Give the victims a chance to heal. My dear God, it's been over fifty years. Give it a rest already. Stop reminding people of the horror of those lunatics. Those animals ( notice I didn't call them ) were nothing but evil.

[@Anton2046gfkn]

​@@p.j.morrisOf course it's not. And you don't care about the victims. You care about selfishly getting attention for yourself. Consider showing more respect.

[@christinemorris8578]

You did an amazing job on the comparison shots. Thank you so much for showing us this. I remember my father reading about it in the paper when it happened. We were on summer vacation at Lake Tahoe. I was 10 years old.

[@musicminds247]

Dude, this is the best of your videos that I’ve watched yet. The whole trip down in the woods and into the cave was tense in a way and very captivating footage! I’ve been watching your channel for a year or so, but here lately I’ve been going back through a lot of your older videos over the past couples of weeks and I just have to say that I really appreciate what you and Jessica do with the videos. There’s a lot of care, research and incredible depth to what you guys do. Thank you!

[@grimmlifecollective]

Thank you so much for taking the time to say this . It means the world to both Jessica and I

[@alanwalker7265]

This is the creepiest video you've done yet. Excellent work!

[@stiglagerfeld9151]

You were probably not too far from where Spahn Ranch worker “Shorty” Shea was murdered and then buried. Thanks for your video of what the area looks like today!

[@timgcrawley]

Thanks for the tour.. I was 7 years old, living in the San Fernando Valley when the murders took place. I moved away from CA in 1972.

[@ThePrincessziah1]

I'm digging the new hair style. Thank you for including the picture comparisons. I love it when you do that in your videos.

[@daleyoung87]

You really are a great storyteller! I like your delivery and your narration. Keep up the great work!!

[@fernfreeman1729]

This is your best episode. It's like seeing and hearing ghosts, 50 years later. Inreal! The cave is simply surreal

[@GlassOnion602]

I was 13 yrs old in 1969, living in Hawthorne California. The 'flower-child' era was going on, the hippie stories, and psychedelic art. Our parents were 'old fogeys'. Make love, not war. Give peace a chance. Those murders were chilling and we should not forget this story nor the history of the 'family'. It shows how gullible youth could be influenced so easily into something horrible before they knew it.

[@RachaelClarkeClarke]

Yes most youth are stupid not all

[@arezom.s372]

Ur videos should be in Netflix or national geographic the way u talk is so clear the way u explain is so clear the way u record so educational first u show then u explain love ur videos keep up the best work

[@NathanHassall]

Well done man...the geo locating and picture comparisons you did from past to present were fascinating.. it must have been something else placing yourself in some of these extraordinary spots. Cheers from Canada.

[@JVanDevere]

I'm always amazed how you match up pictures/film with locations in your vlogs. Keep up the good work :)

[@johnshoosmith]

I like how you introduced images and footage into your contemporary filming. You did your homework! Good job on this!

[@rpkett]

Another excellent video. Your investigative research (along with Scott's) is so much appreciated by us fans. Both channels deserve 1 million+ subscribers!

[@billlozier5551]

Love this one! Big history buff on the Tate/Labianca murderers. It's June 27, 2022 and I revisited the actual site myself today. Maybe a half dozen I total. The sense of history is so fascinating you can feel it. Your shots of the actual Spahn ranch really give me a sense of time & place. I can see the road into the ranch & it's stables & little mock town street & of course the Spahn ranch wagon. The cave is awesome. Bullet holes pepper trees. Its worth the trip.

[@lisahoag2978]

Thanks for putting it in perspective as in depth as you did! Very easy to follow & in-vision what it looked like when you did those comparisons! Great job!

[@kingbeeris8814]

Thank you for this video and all thar you abd baby ghoul do for us mr Michael ! Been following for a while now and everything has been amazing !!!

[@karlwood7329]

This is my new favourite channel, I'm finding your videos absolutely fascinating.

[@stuartdunn4365]

Great video. At the 8:27 mark where you show the black and white group photo, the woman at the top right looks like actress Margaret Qualley who played Pussycat in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood!

[@billlozier5551]

I'm back to thank you again and to say that I've followed the trial and interviews for 50years. One thing I was always afraid to do was to read Helter Skelter. Considered the best true crime story ever I'm ready to read it myself. Cannot wait.

[@robertvanzant2653]

So there was some factual elements to Once upon a time in Hollywood !! Really enjoying your channel, I love exploring and visiting places with a kinda trauma so to speak . When you visit Ireland there’s so much for you to document.

[@kaiser-ix3tn]

This is absolutely amazing and so eerie to see the origin point of the Manson Family. Love the good work keep it up

[@stp7907]

I wish Dearly Departed Museum didn't close recently. You two would have LOVED Scott and all his tours and creepy artifacts. They had the Jayne Mansfield Death Car and he's a bot of a Manson aficionado. Anyway, you got a new California fan in me.

[@tiffany.0214]

I happened to visit California last summer and spur of the moment found out about his museum and manson tour. He's a super great guy, I felt like I was just chatting up my best friend the whole time. I was super bummed to hear he we closing down the museum.

[@lesabeaty6919]

Jarrett wasn't aware Scott closed down Dearly Departed, so disappointed as I would have loved his tours!

[@marshamariner7897]

Why did he hv to close?? The virus mayb. Let's hope he comes back💖💖🌹

[@LisaRichards_123]

Does he have that channel about the cemeteries? I used to always want to go on one of those tours, but never had time, because of working in the music business being a full-time mess as far as having any free time

[@esliet]

This . Is . Creepy. This is probably the creepiest video of where Manson family lived. The music added another level atmosphere........great work

[@Tomtoms-tomtoms]

Wow, great video.. love the Then/Now photo comparisons.. Grimlife just got grim again!!.. love it ☘️☘️☘️

[@MrDravenLee]

Sharon Tate ♡♡♡ Rest in peace.

[@Fat12219]

😢😢 Ms Sharon ❤😊

[@RachaelClarkeClarke]

And the others

[@welles2002]

I was 16 when I read Helter Skelter . I never forgot that book. I'm seriously binging all your short films . Great stuff !!!! For a Pop culture nut like me it's addictive.

[@crystalpoole1560]

I love how you did comparison shots. This was a great video, really enjoyed it.

[@rozchristopherson648]

Amazing that someone like Manson could get anyone to follow them. Excellent video.

[@lornarettig3215]

I totally agree! I can’t bear to hear him shouting gibberish!

[@kimlayman4742]

All of your videos are fantastic. I love how you added how it looks now and showed how it looked then as well. You both do an amazing job. A wealth of knowledge in each video. I appreciate all that you do for each location you visit.

[@patrickr.452]

The shot of the cave.....so creepy. Thank you for this, it was fascinating.

[@kennethcook8857]

I finally got to visit Spahn Ranch. Item #1 on my bucket-list fulfilled! I even had a photo taken of me in the infamous cave.

[@michaelduszynski4128]

I reside locally but have yet to visit here, been to Stoney Pointe, Rocky Peak, Rochetdyne Site, Sage Ranch, getting close, your fine presentation helps. One bit of info I came across was that a few family members starred in an adult film made there .... Ramrodder...

[@t.t.jongerden2012]

Great video. Thanks. Greetings from Poland

[@phoenixfiery7508]

👍 you have to go up the other path off Inverness and go left where the path splits to get to the car. Thanks Michael for the vids as always, it’s a hike up there for sure

[@nmraidernation.6092]

Creepy but beautiful piece of land, dude your editing is spot on, the singing while panning the shot was chilling, wow, keep up the great work! Can one even imagine the conversations they had and the odd creepy things thay went on there, it's better off now as is.

[@Howsoonisnow-to5nv]

i do wish you had also talked more about the other history of the place, like the movies made there, the stuntman etc. i think it's sad that the whole manson thing overshadows this place which has a history in its own right

[@intertubicular]

That was a freaking cool tour of Spahn Ranch all these years later. Loved it. Also happy you were not bitten by a rattlesnake!!!!

[@MareZcare]

Ohhh shut up!

[@intertubicular]

@@MareZcare EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....OKAY!

[@joejones9520]

that one trail's edges looked like the perfect r-snake hideout...

[@amandaknee1999]

You said it perfectly. " So much history. " Dark history, yes but history all the same. Wow! This is the closest I'll ever come to being there and it was very cool. Thanks so much for this video!

[@grimmlifecollective]

You are welcome Amanda...and thank you for watching and commenting

[@FromAshToLife]

You two are amazing I love watching you guys' videos I recently came upon your videos and your channel like about a week ago and I've been in love with your channel ever since. I watch you whenever I have my morning coffee or whenever I'm relaxing. I love the locations you guys visit keep doing it keep loving life love you guys much love from the Lafond family.

[@inanimatt]

Visited the area last summer; we kept driving by it multiple times because the site is so overgrown. The mountain in the background is what gives it away, otherwise the area looks nothing like the pictures. There are a couple of trails to make your way in, no parking around except for the side of the road. There were a lot of burrow holes in the ground, sometimes in clusters, so yeah, watch out for snakes.

[@jamesphillips496]

That song creeps me out unbelievable. I'm almost as old as them and I'm transported back to that time, lucky to have survived.

[@orthogluchensnable6777]

Thanks for the journey to the ranch and cave I would have never seen this if you hadn’t taken me there and I like you am intrigued by history we need to know these things so it won’t be repeated

[@shaunbang]

It’s crazy how nature can completely take back over once human buildings are demolished. The area looks nothin like the way it did during the family days.

[@rockettcustoms6266]

What's a human building?

[@shaunbang]

@@rockettcustoms6266 sorry I meant human buildings/constructs

[@rogersmith4834]

An old rule advises, "You can drive Nature out by force, but God help you when it returns."

[@shaunbang]

@@rogersmith4834 that needs to be the rule currently with how self destructive we are being to our planet out of greed

[@RachaelClarkeClarke]

Great isn't it. I love nature

[@aprilskies1051]

Just found your channel, love it. Subject matter is dealt with respectfully and professionally. Love your opening and closing tune 💀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@lululestat]

Thank you for bringing us this video I’ve been wanting to see this so badly !

[@miketrem3484]

Exellent Work..!!..very interesting video..!!..glad You choose a nice sunny day to do your Artwork..!!

[@DavidWilliams-so2dy]

I wonder if Van Houten and Krenwinkel still hear that creepy song in their heads at night. It would be awesome to bring in some teenagers to sing that to them at their parole hearings.

[@lizlocher2817]

That was one of the best Manson/Spahn Ranch videos, the then and now comparisons were excellent!!! Kudos to Grimm Life Co!!!!

[@1SeanBond]

A Fantastic veiw! I heard so much about the Ranch and places the family would hang out! and it's history! This was a well said & well articulated story,and it was done so well guys! thank's Grimlifecolective Crew! Mike&Jessica!✌⚘🇨🇦

[@cazpk6840]

That picture of you in that Manson cave gave me chills 👀 So awesome 🌟

[@PTrep2727]

Well done, good voice for it as well. New follower here. 👍

[@DeleriousOdyssey]

I wanted to see what's up with Spahn Ranch today, and of course Grimmlife has me covered. Youdabest Grimmlife!

[@deebrown7293]

I've been binge watching your videos and I enjoy them so much!!! Thank you for bringing the past to life!!

[@suzibeach3386]

Thank you for braving the snakes so we could experience how Spahn Ranch looks like now.

[@RoadWarrior-lo9vt]

Such great content, and personality. Why you don't have a million subs yet is beyond me.

[@amandaknee1999]

Also, awesome intro with the Manson interview. I have watched probably every one there is out there and this one in particular shows his real character better than most. He was one messed up and very scary guy!

[@cazpk6840]

He advised his followers to do the same - act tough and.messed up in prison so the other prisoners will stay away in fear.

[@eatontranspo2821]

Great KZbin. Last year two guys were at Comicon in San Diego and had a collection of photos,mail,and movie props.from Spahn Movie Ranch from 1969-70. They were in their late 60's with photos of themselves at Spahn and the Back Ranch where Manson sold hot car parts. One guy covered the trial and the other knew Retz. They also had old guns bought from George Spahn that were movie props. They couldn't display them at the exhibit.I have his address from his handout . Very cool

[@phillipphinney206]

Well done. 52 years this month since the Tate /Labianca murders (August 1969,) I would frankly be amazed if anything remained from when Charlie and the Family occupied Spahn Ranch. What time and the elements has not destroyed, souvenir hunters has erased any sign that that they were there. Frankly, what amazes me is that the area has not been developed into houses, condos or a mini mall. Just amazing that though the physical structures are long gone, you can still get a sense of the place. ,

[@wonkavision3]

Nice touch with the Manson girls singing. It's always so haunting to hear. Thanks for doing this, it was super neat seeing the then and now comparisons. If I ever make it to California, it's for sure one of my stops. Could you imagine if they never bulldozed it?

[@grimmlifecollective]

It would have been amazing to been able to find anything left...I’m sure it’s there if you look and look and look. So much history is there. But being there standing in front of the cave...was worth it

[@Jay-vr9ir]

Now most of those girls are singing the blues .

[@jerrysullivan8424]

They really had nice voices, if only they had used those voices for good. :(

[@WhiskerWhippers]

@@jerrysullivan8424 even Charlie’s recording were decent. He had a good singing voice and could play decent guitar

[@marshamariner7897]

The property is owned by a church and never did anything w it

[@pflink9]

Thanks for the tour. The place had to be magnificent, it's a pity everything got lost over time, I would have liked to experience those fantastic 60s in LA. Greetings from Italy.

[@KattMurr]

If you haven't read "Chaos-Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the 60's" by Tom O'Neil, I highly recommend it!! This was an awesome video! Thank you for sharing!!

[@LC76182]

I just travelled from the UK to SF and then LA to follow the Manson family trail for my new painting collection, I am forever fascinated by this case, the era, the comparison of the sites then and now.

[@mojojojojuniper6122]

Fantastic video and history 53 years ago tonight Xxx

[@heidibrydson3793]

Manson had many caves in Many Canyons. or so we heard. We rode in Devil Canyon all the time (1975-1977). It's all the way up Canoga, pass Chatsworth st. Anyway you go down into the canyon, and there is a bend in the trail next to the stream. Many trees, and pretty. We use to tie our horses there, and explore. Hidden above the stream in the brush/ side of the mountain is a big cave. We found Helter Skelter written on the wall. Tons of tin cans spread about, and old torn blankets. Don't know if this was one of their spots, but it freaked us out?? It is well hidden. If you go, again watch for Rattlers, we use to sing at the top of our lungs to move them on. Good video.

[@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers]

Will you be exploring Barker Ranch? I think there’s an old truck there as well as a dried up swimming hole. You might need a guide as it’s not an easy trek.

[@dinogirl7466]

I read Barker ranch burnt also. I have a picture of it somewhere , there is at least foundations there unlike Spahn.

[@barryjacobs8524]

Very interesting. Thankyou and the memories never fade away do they of what happened in 1969.

[@pippadot679]

THANkYOU for another piece of history. No one will ever forget this story the victims and Charles Manson. Spahn Ranch is spooky. Can you only imagine the drugs taken in there?

[@redskyatnight123]

That first view of spahn ranch is one of the first outdoor scenes in bonanza the cowboy series , the ponderosa estate lol

[@littbitterst2328]

......"its ALL history, whether we like it or not"..... So true Thank you for bringing it♡♡

[@lauriewarner4848]

My dad worked for so cal Edison and had keys . One day after church we all went as a family to see the ranch. Some caretaker greeted us, and asked us to leave. I am now in my 60’s I still find everything about this very interesting.

[@cruzalvarez4th864]

I deeply loved the way you created the girls singing in the background. Truly Eerie 💯

[@rdnysal]

man oh man I enjoyed this Man it was all groovy there back in the day love and peace , freeing you mind man

[@bunabuna9287]

Thanks great video 📹 👍 always wanted to see what it's like there now.

[@craigmitchell4407]

First one of your videos I have watched. This is pretty close to exceptional. Well done!

[@JohnMassari]

There was the silent creepiness or presents that I could almost feel. What a powerful trek through this erie reminiscence. 👍

[@jarellano1014]

This area would creep me out!!😱😱

[@timfields6130]

Michael, Excellent work in photography and your research. This was very interesting to watch and to see an area of history.

[@kashesan]

Great job, thank you! Creepy as hell with the girls singing played. I never could make out the lyrics, but at one point don't they sing. " And If I'm ever behind you..." ?? Id be scared of more than just rattlesnakes out there!

[@BudsCartoon]

Chatsworth is a hidden gem of Los Angeles. From Spahn Ranch, to Stoney Pointe, to the Hells Angels clubhouse, to the Rocketdyne nuclear meltdown, to being the porn capital of the world. The Metrolink disaster, one of the best HS baseball programs in the country, Joey Buttafucco even lived here and had an auto body shop here. I rode my motorcycle right by here yesterday on Santa Susanna. The Lone Ranger rock is just across the street off RedMesa road. The Flintstones movie was filmed in these rocks.

[@christineheege7943]

Love the video. It was the church across the way that removed Mansons name off the rock. It's the rock Manson sat and sang to his followers from.

[@ericclarke6107]

I've been there in that river bed and that little cave behind the old Spahn Ranch a few years. As an avid hiker I found that area to be unsettling having known who used to live there over 50 years ago...

[@aylaedip8141]

Greetings from the uk. Loved this .... a beautiful stretch of land. Thanks for showing the cave. Looked so tiny but it's got a history in itself. Despite what happened which was horrific I would have loved to have been around LA in the 60's especially Laurel Canyon/Height Ashbury as its so rich with history. Thanks again ❤

[@susanreina4008]

Height Ashbury neighborhood is in San Francisco, not LA. 450 miles north so I don’t know how you can say Laurel Canyon/Haight Ashbury like they’re in the same area.

[@aylaedip8141]

@@susanreina4008 ok Mom my bad . Your comment has changed my life!!

[@Oldmonstrosityshop]

It’s always a little bit surreal going to places like this and finding next to nothing. Wiped clean. Crazy

[@manlymanyo2511]

These videos are much appreciated man. Thank you

[@NJcruiser]

Love the Then and Now shots. I do that with Civil War photos and other historical photographs. Well done.

[@jokeroneninesevenzero]

Too bad I didn't know you would be at the ranch. I live five minutes from Spahn ranch and I go there all the time. I could have showed you where everything is located. When you were standing in the corral area, if you turned around and walked toward the ravine, that is about where the truck is located. Anyway, nice video. If you ever go back I will give you a tour.

[@grimmlifecollective]

We will be back out that way some time this year...don’t know if we will make it to the ranch but when we start posting about trips hit us up again and we will see what we can do.

[@jokeroneninesevenzero]

@@grimmlifecollective you got it.

[@ericqueen7159]

Joker OneNineSevenZero s

[@GlassOnion602]

Spahn Ranch had to be less hotter than Death Valley, where they lived in Barker Ranch. Don't know how the family survived things like snakes, scorpions, and the heat!

[@angelrocco2024]

has anybody ever done a spirit box out there???

[@rpkett]

It's amazing how quickly nature takes back what was hers.

[@melthebell33]

amazing how you can pick out the exact locations in that wilderness on a few static photos, puts it into perspective for us, thanks

[@bevkelley6230]

Purely evil people

[@emokittypurrr5864]

the barker ranch is a place they stayed looking at it on google maps there is still some cars and some houses it seems like something you guys would love bit of a long drive(4hr25mins) from this location but its so a must see really nice if you don't know the creepy back story love the work and videos keep it up you and jess are so cute together

[@johnconner9400]

Such a great video brings joy to see where he is it’s pure happiness I would love to be guided there but I can’t find it Charles Manson is a very special soul to me and he sung songs on my favorite tree the Quercus agrifolia tree.. ❤️

[@pigmanobvious]

Good job! I don’t know why but I have always been fascinated by the whole Helter Skelter thing since I was a kid. Seeing Sharon on reruns of the Beverly hillbillies is kinda sad knowing what the future held for her.