REALISTIC Iranian Combined Gunboat, Missile & Drone Swarm vs US Carrier Group (Naval 53) | DCS

[@imgavster66]

You should do a us carrier group 360 surrounded by silk worms

[@grimreapers]

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[@donaldjacks1893]

@@grimreapers I

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Enjoy the fantasy movie

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@30yearsofexprnce]

I find this video from Scot Ritter US Marine officer about US iran war. watch it you will find how wrong you are! tnx

[@willwozniak2826]

I just re watched this operation with my dad who was in the Navy during Vietnam. He's in his last days, but he got a kick out of it by how fast the Iranian speed boats can be and the Carrier operations were impressive CAP! Two Thumbs up from a Vietnam Vet my Dad. The Destroyers turning to hunt and kill brought back a few memories of Carrier Tactics. Well done Reapers!

[@dankuchar6821]

Thank you to your father for his service!

[@jboydayz]

I hope your father lives for a long as possible, and also thank you for your fathers service.

[@telesto912]

This was probably the most realistic one yet. The escort ships actually did their job and defended the Carrier. This was exciting watch. It is probably as close as we can get to the real thing. Hearing those CIWS and bushmaster guns going had my heart racing.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@robertduklus6555]

you idiots, the tanker was to be seized by the americans. the iranians ensured that it didnt happened.

[@martinpalmer6203]

except the Boghammer going all the way through the Burke.,.... IRL if that happened theyd definitely take the burke out of action with a few boats ...suicide bombs or not

[@override367]

@@gnarlax2005 it'd be kind of hard to disguise a surprise attack while casually splitting your force into 300 different places

[@markstott6689]

That was most excellent Cap. Real tactics made such a difference. Hats off to the programmers for making actual changes. It was so much more realistic. I never thought we would see the day when the carrier got itself out of harms way and the DD/CA screen acted like...well....a real screen. EPIC.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh will move forward with this model on future vids.

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@30yearsofexprnce]

I find this video from Scot Ritter US Marine officer about US iran war. watch it you will find how wrong you are! tnx

[@sekhris]

wouldn't the fleet launch their helos too? The hellfires or APKWS could have caused add'l mayhem. Also, it would be great to see this same scenario against an Amphib Group vs. the carrier fleet. Great stuff...first time commenter. I love your vids, CAP

[@grimreapers]

Really good ideas thanks.

[@urimeltzer197]

there would also be 50 cals on the arleigh burks

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@kenkennedy9589]

The fleet would still get crammed

[@30yearsofexprnce]

I find this video from Scot Ritter US Marine officer about US iran war. watch it you will find how wrong you are! tnx

[@smithcj218]

The Destroyers boxed them into a kill box, amazing AI improvements, far more realistic than the previous run, GREAT!!

[@user-rb4kz2te8k]

not really in the real life the boat would have gone after the destroyers and wouldn't have gone into a kill zone. I think the only thing the simulation get right was those Mavericks , they could make a mincemeat of the boats if enough of them get fired

[@bigDaddy-lx9sn]

Well what you haven't taken into account is the Anti Ship Ballestic Missiles and Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Anti Ship Missiles installed on Speedboats almost all Iranian Gunboats carry Shoulder Launched Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Carry at least 2 Anti Ship Missiles too. While you stimulated Iranians running out of ammo but you didn't count American Navy running out of Ammo and if American Navy defeats Iranian navy in the Strait of Hormoz still they won't be able to leave Iranian coast which run almost 100 miles more along the Gulf of Persia. Anti Ship Missiles are deployed in heavy numbers all along the coast. Even if Americans take out entire force of Iranians along the gulf of hormuz they still won't be safe from other Iranian attack position. My estimate for casualty of this conflict is around 150 Gunboats along with it's crew and few drone and radar operators of Anti Ship and Anti Aircraft Missiles running at max at 1500-2000 Iranians. While heavy iranian attack on retreating formation of Americans navy is 3 Warships sunk and 1 taking light to heavy damage. Also Runway of Aircraft Carrier damaged with Casualty ranging from 600-1000 in single day not to mention Iranians attacking American Bases all over Middle East with Drones and Precision Missiles. Also fact to mention here Iran produces almost 150-200 Gunboats and Speedboats armed with Anti Ship Missiles every year and also is large producer of Anti Ship and guided rockets.

[@TheAhanin]

Lol Here US tried to highjack Iranian oil and Iranian navy cut them short and took the oil tanker. Google the incident, Reporter got it all wrong, actually its funny how he doesn't know anything about what's really going on in the video( that video is really famous)

[@anotherone3340]

This is crazy. Not only the explosions but also the camera angles, very cinematic

[@damonried1720]

New & Improved carrier group coding plus improved/more realistic naval tactics equaled OverPowering show of force. Those destroyers were off the chain! Who let the Dawgs out indeed!

[@rnash999]

That one destroyer would have gotten rammed by multiple boats and sunk I think.

[@johnhmstr]

@@rnash999 Gotta keep in mind the navigation of all involved was scripted and fairly static. Real destroyer would have turned sooner and reacted to shadow from further off while spitting all she had the entire time.

[@rnash999]

@@johnhmstr You are right and I don't want to sound too negative anyway since I like these simulations over any other gaming videos.

[@grimreapers]

This really shows how IMPORTANT correct naval tactics are and how they will make or break the battle.

[@lightningxx]

The shots of the Arleigh burke doing that massive turn into the boats was amazing!

[@grandayatollah5655]

Something to note: The tanker was apparently Iranian and being seized back by the Iranians The catamaran was the Shahid Nazeri, the current flagship of the IRGC-N and is a patrol boat not a corvette. However they do have at least 3 catamaran corvettes under construction right now dubbed Shahid Soleimani

[@aaronroode6298]

At 25:23 seeing that destroyer turning in towards the camera like that gave me goosebumps. Imagine how scary that must be in real life! I'd just be like: "Okay, where's the surrender button?"

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@jkasiron2275]

Arleigh Burke: "Not on my watch, bitches"

[@johnhmstr]

holy moly, that was intense. Really glad to see the DCS folks react and improve coding over time. This was one of my favorites yet. Very well done. You know the change in coding means all the previous tests are invalid... repeats required for updated results ;-)

[@grimreapers]

Yup, I've literally been told by the top brass in ED that they are upgrading the naval stuff in response and I will "have to re-do all of the naval vids". Challenge accepted Sirs...

[@-Hardstyle-]

This is one of my favourites yet!! Awesome camera work and commentary CAP! 👌 Top notch entertainment!

[@The_Real_Pimpaho]

Your excitement during these videos all ways gets me laughing and I love it, Keep it up and keep them coming

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@axilleas]

I am a pacifist to the very bottom of my soul, against all sorts of war etc. How you've managed to reel me in to the point I don't miss an episode is beyond reason but I love what you do with these videos!

[@strambino1]

“When I grow up I wanna be a friggen Arleigh Burke!!” Sims just keep getting better and better, but half the fun is always the commentary!!

[@alternativechannel9580]

Cap was so funny when he said that.

[@n1ckf00c]

It's always hilarious reading the comments from the side that lost the fictional battle. "You're one sided." "Actually you need to use the weapon system that doesnt exist." "In reality, 6 billion missiles wouldve been fired from 360 degrees." "TORPEDOES AND SUBS". Like bruh, its a game with limited weapon systems and server capability. Keep up the good work Cap, these videos make my week!

[@marshalljulie3676]

🤦‍♂️have you seen Iranian navy in the 80s? And they still have more subs than European countries. Anyway no body is developing new model's for Iran it would only be fair.

[@n1ckf00c]

@@marshalljulie3676 my point wasn't specific to Iran's capabilities in DCS. You see it everytime a country loses "China would've launched thousands of missiles" "what about the virginia class subs". I just find it funny when people complain about a game that obviously doesnt fully represent the full capabilities of any country.

[@RyTrapp0]

Yup, 100%. People act like the devs just have all the resources in the world to focus on the most irrelevant crap that the vast majority of players don't even care about. I mean, everyone understands that this is primarily a flight simulator... right?

[@ireviewshtuff]

@@marshalljulie3676 Didn’t they lose to Iraq in the 80s

[@kevkivi2529]

@@ireviewshtuff nah they got invaded but the Iraqis never got anywhere and it just ended with a peace treaty that the UN imposed. No border changes, nothing. And back then Iran had just had a revolution and was unorganized and unstable yet they still managed to hold off the Iraqis which were supported by both the US and the USSR with weapons and equipment. Iran got most of it's stuff from Syria and China and whatever was left from the old governments armory. So to answer your question. No they did not loose.

[@EvolvedTactical]

I was watching the drones and thinking, "I wonder if the radar can pick up the blob of the swarm, and just have SM-2s detonate their proximity fuses in the middle of the group?" And then an SM-2 blew up in the middle of the group and dropped multiple drones at once. Well done.

[@deanbrown2061]

I believe the Navy moved onto sm-3 and sm-6 mess-

[@otrotland5377]

wow, what a way to spend a lunch break, thank you.

[@grimreapers]

Our pleasure!

[@manwithnoname6171]

Really enjoyed this, those big ships firing all they have at those boats was amazing.

[@tondara0]

Cap. Thanks for this amazing video. I just wanted to clarify what is being deliberately misreported in the west. In this incident, the US destroyer was trying to seize the tanker and the Iranian ships stopped the seizure. Not the other way around! Of course no one wants to say that here! Nonetheless the Iranians seem quite suicidal in the way they are dealing with a US Destroyer!!!!

[@roryross3878]

You're unbridled excitement was infectious AF!!!

[@Nealetony]

Boats should have secondary target priority on destroyer and frigate in proximity.

[@chrisstopher2277]

Thanks!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Chris!

[@ecbst6]

Real-world training grounds. We also used to watch from the AWACS while Iran and Iraq went at it in the 80's.

[@dankuchar6821]

Thanks for this!

[@cnlbenmc]

How to spice this up; maybe have the Iranians have proper Aircraft in the Mix along with Missile Boats and their Frigates. On the US Side; have either a large Recon plane or Drone (like JSTARS or Global Hawk) to scan the Surface for threats and a bigger CAP with maybe even land based craft to support the group. This would be a high priority mission then having some Frigates tagging along for support for the carrier would make sense, they would probably be some form of LCS variant as the Constellation class hasn't entered service so using either the Oliver Hazard Perrys or if they're in the game the FREMM as a stand in for the Constellations (as it will be a variant of this) might work.

[@alternativechannel9580]

Absolutely great display of multiple technologies in combination with real world naval tactics. One of the best naval battles --

[@Minuz1]

When the gunboats passed the DD's, they could have knocked out their phalanx and radars with the duska's. More spacing for the drones so that a single SM-3 doesn't knock out 20 of them at a time. Make the attack happen at the same time, the boats were too slow, the drones too fast. The shield should be a valid target for them.

[@bigDaddy-lx9sn]

This video is flawed. Well what they haven't taken into account is the Anti Ship Ballestic Missiles and Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Anti Ship Missiles installed on Speedboats almost all Iranian Gunboats carry Shoulder Launched Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Carry at least 2 Anti Ship Missiles too. While they stimulated Iranians running out of ammo but didn't count American Navy running out of Ammo and if American Navy defeats Iranian navy in the Strait of Hormoz still they won't be able to leave Iranian coast which run almost 100 miles more along the Gulf of Persia. Anti Ship Missiles are deployed in heavy numbers all along the coast. Even if Americans take out entire force of Iranians along the gulf of hormuz they still won't be safe from other Iranian attack position. My estimate for casualty of this conflict is around 150 Gunboats along with it's crew and few drone and radar operators of Anti Ship and Anti Aircraft Missiles running at max at 1500-2000 Iranians. While heavy iranian attack on retreating formation of Americans navy is 3 Warships sunk and 1 taking light to heavy damage. Also Runway of Aircraft Carrier damaged with Casualty ranging from 600-1000 in single day not to mention Iranians attacking American Bases all over Middle East with Drones and Precision Missiles. Also fact to mention here Iran produces almost 150-200 Gunboats and Speedboats armed with Anti Ship Missiles every year and also is large producer of Anti Ship and guided rockets. Also 50 Drones and Anti Ship Missiles is a Small Number and only a fool would launch them from same direction following with almost all drones following same pathway making it easy for Americans to counter them.

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

Also, portraying the Ra'ad /Quader (i.e., reverse engineered, domestically produced Iranian Silkworm) as Iran's only anti-ship missile was rather disingenuous. Since the 1990s, Iran has developed multiple domestically produced anti-ship missiles, including several models of the Noor missile, capable of mach 0.9, and a long range, ballistic anti-ship missile capable of supersonic speed.

[@jamiewaterman8147]

That was FUN! Loved the commentary! I want Cap to give commentary to movies. (Luke blows up the Death Star) "BOOM! Right in the face! - (Titanic strikes the iceberg) "BOOM! Right in the face! - (Rocky knocks out Drago) "BOOM! Right in the face! (Any porno film) "BOOM! Right in the face! See? It just works!

[@blackhawks81H]

"Oh noooooo drone swarms are impossible to deal with because they fly in such tight clouds that radar has a super hard time dealing with." WW2 Flak gunners: "Ahem...."

[@aboriani]

I love this channel because as a viewer, I feel valued

[@grimreapers]

This is important to me.

[@glenproctor1999]

The Iranian timing was off which meant it became a piecemeal attack. Just perfectly shows how difficult a time on target attack is to co-ordinate. Could add AA sites and dispersion to the Silkworm site to help? Those Hornets got a too easy ride.

[@override367]

the hornets were being piloted by chimps so I think it's fair

[@lavenderlilacproductions]

Could have added a late flight of Iranian Mirages or Mig 29s since the Hornets were all loaded anti ship.

[@cshader2488]

That was a fantastic video! Nice work guys!

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@clangerbasher]

There is no way a gun on Boghammer could track and shoot with any accuracy.

[@philcharles238]

They don't. It was sheer volume of fire that got clipped the Hornets. AI didn't do a good job of staying out of their relatively short range.

[@marshalljulie3676]

You do realise this is a very downgraded iran navy like they really have military ships and the small boats are equipped with missiles

[@HebrewHammerArmsCo]

@@marshalljulie3676 LOl, but their best military ships keep mysteriously sinking or blowing up.... The their modern Navy is pretty useless

[@grimreapers]

Fair point

[@clangerbasher]

@@philcharles238 Have you ever driven a RHIB over 20kts never mind near on 50 and tried to do anything else? Yes it was sheer volume. I am saying it would be chaos.

[@redgriffindiver7740]

Before watching the actual fight with knowledge of the setup I would: 1) engage Silkworms with SM2, 1a) If a Silkworm get's past the SM2s then ESSM, RAM, and PHALANX should engage., 2) Engage Boghammer's with aircraft until close-in, 3) Engage drones with aircraft if available, 4) Chew up any leftover Boghammer or Drone with PHALANX Surface mode because that's what it was designed to do.

[@abledog9462]

I love working nights with the helos, just inside the skin of the ship on a Burke at the waterline and getting woken up during gun shoot days. I would lay there under the red lights and just listen to the 25mm, 5in, CIWS, Browning half inches and M240s while at the same time hearing the water over the hull and being rocked. Pure sensory pleasure

[@Bacondoggo]

SOOO COOL!!! Nice job on the scenario.

[@ChristopherSloane]

Drones should come in at a couple of different directions at wave height. Also there would be more than 50 so 200. The small boat swarm would also engage at different angles and they do have missile boats. So a mix of small boats would be better and much more realistic. There would also be a CAP up as well. Silk worm missiles and radar need to be spread out abit as well.

[@trolleriffic]

@@ColonelHoganStalag13 Air and surface attacks against a CBG that's specifically designed and organised to defend against exactly that is only ever going to end one way. Now if DCS had torpedoes and mines (especially homing mines) modelled properly then you'd see how much fun can be had when you take the carrier air wing and all those Aegis systems out of the equation entirely.

[@ChristopherSloane]

@@ColonelHoganStalag13 Well yaaa see if the opposing sides weapon systems can detect and kill you farther out than your weapon systems that is what happens.

[@override367]

@@ColonelHoganStalag13 and the US aircraft wouldn't be flying 10 feet off the ground and the CG would launch helos as well, it's just having a bit of fun not a predictor of anything (in reality it would be a staggering failure of intelligence for an attack of this scale to be prepared undetected)

[@BoleDaPole]

In real life the US carrier group would see all this activity happening from miles away and wouldn't even go near it.

[@Mariner311]

Exciting watching the set-up... I transited the Strait a dozen times in 1987-96. I remember the pucker-factor, and launching in an SH-60B a few times loaded with Hellfires, AND sitting in CIC/Strike on the carrier a number of times when I was "older". We ALWAYS had their Port and any KNOW Styx/Chinese missile sites targeted with Cruise missiles. DANG that was exciting after watching - from 0-120mph in seconds, and 5-10 minutes of terror.

[@Andy81ish]

Can you add the Drone launcher on an Oil tanker that might be able to get closer prior to launch. Reduce the reaction time.

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@JoeC-bz2ep]

Its nice to see those DDG's step up and perform now.

[@antonfig1865]

It seems to me that the escort ships would be a priority for the Boghammers. For exactly this reason. If that first Destroyer had gotten pounded one or two that were essentially torpedos what is its combat effectiveness after that? It would also be nice to see them with a mix of weapons like they often have, though I realize that might be hard on the server. But a 106 mm recoilless rife is going to hurt the thin skin of a modern destroyer, even the Dushka's and some RPG fire could damage sensitive equipment, reducing the effectiveness of the ship. THe Silkworms might be set to target the biggest thing in the water. But the Boghammers have wetware guidance systems.

[@urimeltzer197]

I honestly think this was your best video yet

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@Stinger522]

This was an amazing battle. A one-sided battle but an amazing one nonetheless. My only critique is that the carrier should've sent up Seahawk helicopters packing missiles in addition to the Hornets. If getting atomized by a Maverick was bad for those boats, imagine how much worse it would've been if those Hornets were packing Stormbreakers.

[@AgentSmith911]

Yup, it'd be a turkey shoot. But the Iranians also pack more advanced anti ship missiles fired from shore that could do more damage.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@AgentSmith911 Shore-based missiles are a bigger threat IRL. Fleets tend to run out of bullets before forts…

[@RokkHunter]

This was excellent. Really nice to see you've used the Super carrier Mod the way it should be.

[@rickfox4068]

In the confined space of the Persian Gulf, the escorts would never leave the carrier, and do not have to. Their SPY 1 / 6 radar system and VLS give them a 360 degree coverage of the entire gulf. They would literally see the planes taking off from Iran and forming up. Missile keys would be turned and the system put into automatic. Also the helicopters and planes from shore bases would enter the fray and kill small boats. At the end of the sim, it was asked if this was realistic? I would say yes. The software and hardware is always being updated. I would say that the only unrealistic thing was that the 5" were not shooting the silkworms. This was done in the 90's when the Iranians shot some at US warships with some success. With newer radars and control systems, this would be easier with the more modern 5" gun and its newer proximity fuses. Plus silkworms are SLOW and HUGE respectively.

[@henrygibson9613]

Could you try this video again but with UK CSG 2021 with the Martlet missile?

[@clangerbasher]

If Mod 0 Sea Wolf could knock 4.5in shells doing over Mach 1 out of the air I don't think these slow and much larger drones are going to trouble a system like Aegis nearly 40 years on.

[@unhippy1]

no it won't trouble an aegis or similar....it will however run it out of ammunition and in real life the drones will just keep coming in by the hundred.....thats the second scary part of drone warfare.....add to that the drones ability to home in on any electronic emissions including jamming and it makes them very hard to counter with current weapons systems......i'd imagine in future we may see 30 and 50cal close in weapons systems liberally festooned on every military ship, vehicle and fixed position as standard equipment

[@aaronkratzmann9703]

@@unhippy1 Would AEGIS at full power fry the drones right out of the air? I have heard it can be damaging to sensitive electronics.

[@unhippy1]

@@aaronkratzmann9703 military Drones are hardened against emp and directed radar emissions.....drones aren't much use if the enemy can use a 'electronic broom' to sweep them out of the sky

[@downix]

@@unhippy1 I don't think people realize that a Burke in AA configuration only has 40 or so anti-air missiles.

[@danielsummey4144]

@@unhippy1 Yeah, thing is, these drones can and will be jammed as well. The cheaper they are, the easier they are to be jammed long before they get to the fleet. That’s why the Arleigh Burke’s just got fitted with a new electronic warfare system. Beyond that, lasers. Lasers have an unlimited magazine depth and can already, today, take down drones. People like to write about the irrelevance of the carrier group because of whatever new tech is the fad, but chances are we already have the stuff to defeat it today.

[@junak8823]

I love the tactics element you added to video.

[@TurbodanNM]

I do feel that these results are more representative of the actual capabilities of these weapons.

[@adilachahbar3154]

This might shock you No, the results in this game do not represent anything close to real life

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@bigDaddy-lx9sn]

@@grimreapers Well what you haven't taken into account is the Anti Ship Ballestic Missiles and Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Anti Ship Missiles installed on Speedboats almost all Iranian Gunboats carry Shoulder Launched Anti Aircraft Missiles and also Carry at least 2 Anti Ship Missiles too. While you stimulated Iranians running out of ammo but you didn't count American Navy running out of Ammo and if American Navy defeats Iranian navy in the Strait of Hormoz still they won't be able to leave Iranian coast which run almost 100 miles more along the Gulf of Persia. Anti Ship Missiles are deployed in heavy numbers all along the coast. Even if Americans take out entire force of Iranians along the gulf of hormuz they still won't be safe from other Iranian attack position. My estimate for casualty of this conflict is around 150 Gunboats along with it's crew and few drone and radar operators of Anti Ship and Anti Aircraft Missiles running at max at 1500-2000 Iranians. While heavy iranian attack on retreating formation of Americans navy is 3 Warships sunk and 1 taking light to heavy damage. Also Runway of Aircraft Carrier damaged with Casualty ranging from 600-1000 in single day not to mention Iranians attacking American Bases all over Middle East with Drones and Precision Missiles. Also fact to mention here Iran produces almost 150-200 Gunboats and Speedboats armed with Anti Ship Missiles every year and also is large producer of Anti Ship and guided rockets.

[@HHTP6]

@@bigDaddy-lx9sn nobody reading that

[@madmike5621]

That was awesome! Love watching your simulations ... your enthusiasm showed through ... "BRRrrt BRRrrt Go Arleigh Burke ... I want to be an Arleigh Burke when I grow up!" :-)

[@rounaksingh409]

Hey Cap tho all the boghammers were programmed to only attack the carrier but if they were programmed to attack the carrier group as a whole I think they would have disabled or seriously damaged several destroyers as many of them crossed the picket line. Also, Iranian SAMs should have been there to defend the missile sites.

[@KondorDCS]

This was a pretty stupid demo, catering typically to american audiences. So unrealistic it's actually funny.

[@Mobius118]

I’m surprised at the number of SM-2’s missing the Styx Missiles. Does the Styx have any ECM? Or does the SM-2 have an incredibly low PK? (I would think it’s the former but I have no idea what might cause that)

[@grimreapers]

Just a low PK in game against these, no idea why.

[@Mobius118]

Rodger

[@aliparvazi9592]

It was really interesting...but... I think you have not taken into account some critical parameters: -Iran has a long shore across the Persian gulf and will not initiate an attack just from one point. (you have to change the model to a more multi-directional attack) -They currently have faster surface to sea missiles which they can hide in a passenger VANs and shoot at any location on the beach -You have not taken into account the air cover of old mighty F-14s -You have not taken into account the heavy SAM coverage in the area if they are going to initiate such an attach (something like "Sevom Khordad" which brought down the Global Hawk a while ago") -Most of those speed boats are equipped with rocket launchers -Some of those are equipped with light anti aircraft missiles like Stinger too -No one initiate a drone swarm that close to each other which the opponent can bring multiple of them down by a single missile blast wave -Also, I don't know how long would it take, to take about 120 Mavericks out of the box and load them on 30 F-18s, and bring them up to the deck. I don't think they are sitting in the lower deck fully loaded with Mavericks by default. -And finally, they are heavily promoting their short range pin pointing ballistic missiles which they believe they are the main threat to the aircraft carriers. it would be interesting if you can simulate it again factoring these parameters in... :)

[@willwozniak2826]

They can only do so much to avoid server crashes man.

[@dougabrahamsen2952]

The one asset every sim missed is the Burks will also have many sailors on gunpoints around the ship wit .50,30, and other weapons. It is an awesome sight when they light them all up!

[@devinodulchaoinitigh5467]

Dude as a sailor in the Canadian Navy this was fucking awesome. Pretty much what we're trained to do when we roll with the Americans; we'll throw our ships in like cannon fodder with the Arleighs to save the carrier's

[@shirgall]

From the intro, DDG-66 is the USS Gonzalez.

[@Elzon1]

Next time have the drones spread out initially so they don't get killed when they're grouped up as easily.

[@anuvisraa5786]

ant he silk worms dont need radar traking from land

[@s4ss.m8]

Watching those Burkes roll hard and turn is like IRL, those things can move so crazy for a big ship

[@subjectc7505]

That one machine gunner was very eager to fire at the destoryer 😂

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Really are you stupid or somthing? Iranian know all captblity of US forces they trained for dozen years watching US acts on region they know when and how send drones. All boats have missle even some under water missle lunch from boat i saw them 10 years ago wich the second country made them was iran. Also if thease dron was detected dont call them kamikazi. evey US bas3 hit with thease kamikaze dailyy and devil US forces cant do anything. even mackenzy said that. Go search about a simulation test took place in US for simulate iran gunboats power and result was desaster for US Side. where is iran mini submrines. iran have thousnd thounsdlnd of them. they just created to destroy Us warships in gulf because they are very small and radar cant detect them. Chinase call them predator wolves or bee stings stategy go search thease things and lean and then make program. even iran air defences shot down the US most anit radar dron . iran gental said we can shoot down that special spy plan that day but we decided to shot down drone becaise dont want kill soldiers. but there isnt any air defence in your video lol. they have radrs with 500 km range go search name is Quds radar. and air defense with 350 km and new advance techs. also they can lunch messle from yemen. they are so capbe on hijack they hack every drone of US u can imagen. they are sea mines there they are emps and more more. and you tell us this is realistc! dont fool urself

[@30yearsofexprnce]

Enjoy the fantasy movie

[@duanesamuelson2256]

Since I don't have a clue about the drone swarm capabilities ' what would happen if a mach+ pass was made through/by them? The wind concussion would have an effect, j just don't know how much damage/instability it would cause.

[@robertspivey46]

@Grim Reapers Just to let you know, when i was a flight deck yellow shirt on the USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT CVN 71, we had 45 aircraft on deck. ship wide there was 82 total. during the Persian Gulf war there was two aircraft from the Iraqi AF 400 miles out on intercept heading for us, we launched every aircraft turning. trust me when i say you need to rework your model.

[@theymusthatetesla3186]

That was one of the best yet!!

[@forester6335]

Great video, would love to see how ww2 battleships deal with a swam attack. I believe the amount of AAA batteries and small guns on the battleships would be interesting.

[@randomnature8493]

Your comment to RC about his hook had me listing laughing, recently found your channel and havnt stopped binge watching everything, thanks for the great content 👍

[@clangerbasher]

It does go to show that Western escorts operating in those waters can't have too many cannon or HMG's.

[@marmite8959]

There's a very good reason destroyers have those Bushmasters on top of the CIWS and main armament

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@clangerbasher]

@@marmite8959 Yes indeed.

[@BoleDaPole]

The first and only Jason to ever serve in the Iranian military.

[@wayfaringman8418]

This was bloody awesome to view. I'd try an attack after the US Navy passes the straight with two different groups of boats assaulting the carrier group in a pincer movement, w/ missiles and drones coming from the Iranian coast into the center of the US Navy. Spread the defense out a bit and see how it handles the zerg boat rush from 2-3 directions.

[@trolleriffic]

I'd litter the sea bed with mines, especially homing models that release a torpedo when they're triggered. An SM-2 or Phalanx is worth exactly squat against a weapon like that.

[@ncscoobysnack]

What is the use of speedboats going through the destroyers getting picked off going after the tanker. You would've expect some kind of attack on the warships. Maybe a suicide run with explosives, or an attack with rpg's.

[@fat_biker]

I'd have thought that spreading the silkworms out, concealing them, holding them back & then using a lot of them to take out the pickets as the fast patrol craft get close should be a thing. Also, arguably, wait to launch the drone swarm & the silkworm strike until the fast boats are closer to the target. Also, have the fast boat groups take different routes to the target, start from different places give the fast boat crews manpads as well as dushkas & put some air defences around the Iranian land based assets, because it wouldn't be a fun place to fly...

[@taylorrice3183]

agreed

[@MrJoel9679]

Yes Cap. Arleigh Burke turning into formation and firing with aggression was super sexy.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@WardenWolf]

I think the CIWS is unrealistically underwhelming. It misses way too much. Also, in real life there would be sailors manning .50's on the railings and the big guns would be more accurate as well.

[@Justineexy]

negative, the phalanx misses a lot. there are videos that proves it.

[@johnhmstr]

.50's and m240's both on the rails i would imagine. Completely agree on the CIWS being rather silly in its inaccuracy against boat targets.

[@angelarch5352]

Phalanx shooting at small boats on the ocean misses all the time in real life. It's hard top believe, but just go watch videos of it trying.

[@spaceisalie5451]

CIWS made me almost piss myself hearing that shit. They give a warning they’re gonna fire but I somehow didnt hear it, walked on the catwalk and fuuuuck that thing was loud and terrifying. Wouldn’t be the first time i pissed myself, won’t be the last.

[@reminder9146]

When shooting at boats the CIWS is almost always in manual, meaning there is a real person aiming the gun through its camera. A second long burst throws 75 tungsten rounds towards a target. If even a quarter of those rounds hit, which they often do, anything topside would be turned into a mangled eviscerated mess. So those videos everybody is talking about... yea... You're also right. There would be crew served M240's and M2's on the lifelines. The DDG and the FAC/FIAC would have traded a lot more fire. Also it's worth noting, that Carrier would not be launching fighters in the middle of a surface action unless the excrement had really REALLY hit the fan. And by that I mean a asymmetrical combat situation where there was an incoming air strike, (not drones or missiles but planes), A submarine threat, a surface action, and a unmanned vehicle swarm. Finely, DCS does not model the U.S. Navy's MK-45 MOD 4 5"/54 caliber lightweight gun very well. HE-VT shells would be the weapon of choice for slow drones like that. A ship would be loath to use its SM2 inventory on tightly grouped drones like that. Especially with a battery of ASCM's are launching from the coast.

[@jkasiron2275]

Realistic or not, these are the most entertaining videos on YT! Well done, GR team!

[@TheGreg6466]

That was so much cooler than the last boghammer attack, DCS has really improved. That was very entertaining, thanks Cap.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@sebastes0558]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Now revisit the other Carrier challenges using similar strategy. Well done!

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@Anarchy_420]

Sick battle!👍 Talk about A LOT of moving parts!🤯👍 What about The Iranian F-14's, UH-1H's attacking with The Boggs Plus Flak guns protecting the Silkworms! Lol just part of my old request for this scenario, perhaps next time. Please give all U.S. Support Ships Helicopters

[@malkazaarfalkon2854]

But wouldn't the carrier be in danger from attack subs

[@exterminater267]

SM-2 would actually detonate when its own warhead senses proximity. So the millisecond it enters the swarm it would detonate. Edit: CIWS would also completely shred any subsonic thing entering its range. It even shoots at CHAFF autonomously. It doesnt get confused. If theres any sort of radar blip thats not marked it will shoot at it.

[@alarsonious2071]

Wait, no navy seals with 50 cal's?

[@downix]

If only the sim included the MANPADS those boats are typically loaded with.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@penroc3]

as a valued viewer. i appreciate your hard work

[@flyingfox8360]

I really enjoyed this one. Youre the best Experimental Naval/Air warfare scenario engineer around. I heard you talking about having trouble with telling people are church what you do. I was in the navy for 10 years, i could make finger painting done in poo be sold like the mona lisa.

[@trottheblackdog]

Now that's a government employee talking right there for real!

[@grimreapers]

I am slowly learning Naval tactics etc

[@1ShopSnipe]

The commentary while watching this is the best part!

[@LosLS2]

I believe that a carrier battlegroup can hit a swarm of drones with enough radar radiation to make them freak out at least.

[@joenefflen845]

Because ships can unmask more weapons, EW and fire control directors off their beam, the escorts would probably zig zag away from the threat, like alternating a 45 degree tack away. They want to be able to employ those weapons systems while trying to keep the range open. Most likely the CG would probably try to keep up with the CV and keep the best position for air defense while the DDG's zig zag and do their best to engage surface threats. Once air threats got within engagement range, the CG would turn some to unmask all its directors and EW systems while engaging vampires.

[@Evan-hq5dt]

Thank you for revisiting this. I was thoroughly confused with the last run of the boghammers. I'm always humbled by the wisdom of your subscribers comments, but my take away, after reading David Crist's book, Twilight War, was that the IRGC derives its bravado from fanaticism and a handful of marginal victories against the US by means of subterfuge. The rare instance, OP Praying Mantis, where the IRGC and/or Iranian Navy met the US Navy without pretense was devastating for Iran.

[@grimreapers]

Roger Evan

[@gryper1690]

That was the most awesome display Ive ever seen with a video game/sim.

[@Hierachy]

Would love to see a russian aircraft carrier group version of this! imagine all of those CIWS going off....

[@bobfatty1035]

Ha ha. I’m new to the channel and totally hooked on these videos. I think today, though, the Arabian Allies would put so many land based missiles in the air, I don’t think you’d be able to fly at all, and probably crash the simulator. Even with a tenth the Iranian and Arabian, land and air assets in a small box, in the same scenario, would probably crash the sim. These guys like to blind fire alot. Great commentary and videos.

[@ptonpc]

From what I remember regards the tanker. It was being used by Iran to smuggle oil. The US Navy was coming to seize it, so the Iranians snatched it first.

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@drfill9210]

If you can't increase the size of the attack you can create a scenario where the carrier is trying to get home with damaged or reduced escorts. Carrier has had some kind of pitched battle and is now running the gauntlet to get home with its remaining group in tact?

[@tubeit365]

@ 14:10 the simulation finally begins.

[@grimreapers]

Time stamps already in vid description :)

[@tubeit365]

@@grimreapers lol... you're right, my bad after watching a couple of videos, I figured it out. Apparently I'm 10% "more on". Take care, keep up the good work. Also, happy New Year!

[@LeoH3L1]

You know you could attach a small moving zone to each US ship, and maybe a 1 second timer, so that if any fast boats do enter that zone, it triggers an explosion to simulate suicide runs.

[@simmysims9209]

Instead of waves, boats, missiles and drones should have timed to be "at range" same time to have as many targets it's possible to overwhelm defence.

[@hresvelgr7193]

I loved how when the Iranian trained the machine gun on the destroyer the DDG trained its 127 on the Iranian The weakness of a drone swarm is if a big missile like an SM-2 hits a lot of drones are going down. Also I think the carrier got the first Silkworm that almost got through. Also it looks like RC's tail hook was down the whole time

[@williamcampbell4740]

Hi Cap, been watching your videos for a while and would like to give you a viewer request. Could you run a simulation of what would have happened on the 1st of May 1982, if the Argentine carrier, which spotted the British task force first but didn't have enough wind, was able to launch her air wing? Could the Skyhawks have changed the course of the conflict?

[@grimreapers]

yes BUT waiting for the Falklands map to arrive

[@grahamstrouse1165]

Falklands was a closer run war than a lot of people realize…

[@williamcampbell4740]

Definitely, would be good to see how close!

[@williamcampbell4740]

@@grimreapers excellent 😁👍

[@EurojuegosBsAs]

Yes please!!!

[@timblack6422]

Most realistic yet. Great job!

[@catz1845]

that was Absolutely fucken Awesome

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@cybersquire]

Watching those ‘Burkes melee with the gunboats was the best part!