2027 UK Carrier Group vs 2027 Russian Carrier Group (Naval Battle 132) | DCS

[@kdaltex]

You need to test drone swarms. Look up Operation Hellscape for Taiwan

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaSkg2trprBqjtE

[@TR4Ajim]

Nah, by 2027 the Leonidas system would be operational!👍

[@Anarchy_420]

​@@grimreapers Yo Cap! Really hope you like the idea of using AI HAVE GLASS F-16's as Loyal Wingman! Since they are representing smaller aircraft and must maintain low radar cross section they can only carry 2 AIM-120's or 4 Peregrine's plus 2 AIM-9X!

[@AbuBakr-gm6bf]

​@@grimreapers naval drone ?

[@BoneTube-vm4fj]

Nahhh uhh

[@theymusthatetesla3186]

I have to say, I enjoy the Naval Battles over the Air Battles!

[@forMacguyver]

Turns out it might have been a good thing the Lightnings used their Meteors to take out some of those anti-ship missiles. If not there wouldn't have been enough A.A. missiles to save the blues.

[@grimreapers]

Yes fair point!

[@azoriusmage]

Maybe but also they would have stopped more anti-ship flankers

[@jimmymcgoochie5363]

On the other hand, those SAMs had already been fired at those incoming missiles when the meteors shot them down… and more meteors could have shot down more anti-ship jets so less missiles would need to be shot down

[@jamespaladino2784]

@@jimmymcgoochie5363Some of thos Metiors missed. So it was good that they did a double tap. I was thinking the same thing. If I was an air to air fighter I would take the cruise missiles out. Without a base to go home to it’s not much good.

[@corvanphoenix]

​@jamespaladino2784 Yeah, it seems like a human kind of choice.

[@AIM-120D3_AMRAAM]

I don't think the Russians will have a carrier in 2027 lol

[@mosskalva108]

Fr 😂

[@MrNPC]

Same may apply to UK depending on next election.

[@hurricaneace143]

Facts

[@t.r.4496]

If Russia does it will definitely have a tug in the fleet.

[@JohnDoe_Poland]

They certainly won’t. It’s likely they won’t have much of a grand force by then. But hey, if we count T55 they yea. They’re good 😂

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

UK has: 3 * 48 Aster 30 on Type 45, 144 total 3 * 24 Sea Ceptor on Type 45, 72 total 3 * 48 Sea Ceptor on Type 26, 144 total and 216 total Sea Ceptors 3 * 16 SPEAR 5 in Type 26, 48 total 24 * 8 SPEAR 3 on F-35B, 196 total Russia has: 6 * 24 9M96D on Adm. Gorshkov, 144 total 6 * 32 9M100 on Adm. Gorshkov, 192 total 6 * 16 UKSK on Adm. Gorshkov, 96 total 15 * 4 Kh-35 on Su-33M, 60 total

[@grimreapers]

There's my man!

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

But some of those ASM Sukhois got gunned by some cheeky Brits! That probably made all the difference!

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

@@grimreapers You know I typed this out literally one second before I heard you say the thing about counting!

[@JB17521or]

the Type 26 has 16 Spear5 ASMs; 8 of the land attack version (ingame)

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

@@JB17521or oops, will edit

[@martindice5424]

We survived because of the superiority of Cap as a narrator! Gawd bless you sir!

[@strambino1]

Thanks GR for all the years of entertainment! I hope you get well soon cap!

[@mainlycarthings3430]

This was an epic one, tense right up until the very last missile

[@GarranLewis]

Made it into the uk defence journal with this one Cap, well done sir, the carrier battles are the best 👌

[@greva2904]

UK Defence Journal have just issued a grovelling apology to their readers for treating this vid as if it was a serious simulation! 😂

[@scottirwin1693]

Its hilarious that the Russian carrier gets more use when you guys use it in DCS than Russia can actually use it in real life😅

[@OleDiaBole]

Those silly Russians... Meanwhile ignorant of fact that Russians never developed those-invasion weapons and carriers would be dealt with by hypersonic anti-ship missiles from submarines, dedicated to that role only... Something none of you-tradittional-invaders-have...

[@amunra5330]

k....

[@funnyclown9138]

.. Is it because Russia doesn't need to use it? Its main function is to train crews and pilots for the next generation aircraft carriers and preserve the experience of the carrier group

[@noco7243]

​ This is cope. Russia isn't even developing a "next generation of carriers" not was it used "solely for training". They deployed it to the MED in 2018, a quarter of the way through the deployment the decrepit, arresting wires snapped and all of the Russian Navy air strikes were done from land for the rest of the deployment. The ship is so bad it plumed toxic fumes everywhere it went. It broke down twice and had to be tugged by a tug boat. It even caught fire (twice) and is no longer in service in the Russian Navy.

[@funnyclown9138]

@@noco7243 source: trust me bro

[@joshuasenior4370]

Yet more top quality content as usual. The idea for the Spear-3 is basically that it is like a very long range Brimstone missile. It will be used far more for long range precision strikes than for anti-ship, although of course they can be used for that. I think that the ability to get 8 in the weapons bay is excellent.

[@MrEsphoenix]

They do seem like a great idea in this scenario though for the exact reason they where useful here. A relitivly cheap way to depleat defence, leaving the door open for bigger missiles to do the real damage.

[@epl803]

SPEAR 3 being "AShW" is a bit optimistic. It will be able to target ships but satisfactory effect on target will be by luck than design...

[@MrEsphoenix]

@@epl803 as shown and stated in the video, they pose enough of a threat that they need to be countered as they can take out vital components, and they can be launched en mass. They're a great way to deplete defences and cripple ships if any get through, leaving the path open for big hitters.

[@epl803]

@@MrEsphoenix "cripple ships if any get through" is stretching it for such a small warhead. They are just as likely to spank into the hull as they are to hit a vital system. Depleting air defences is a valid use but that does not make it AShW any more than a MALD is a Deep Strike weapon. Also, this is a gaming video, not an authoritative source on missile system capabilities

[@MrEsphoenix]

@@epl803 Yes, it's a gaming video, thank you for clearing that up Sherlock. You're also commenting under a gaming video. That doesn't make all information given in said video invalid, or prevent it being used as an example. They're precision missiles. Targeting would be soft targets. Radar, the bridge, weapons systems etc. Taking out such things will operationally cripple a ship. Since you like stating the obvious, I shouldn't need to point out that you don't need to completely destroy a target to take it out the fight or reduce its effectiveness.

[@sulyokpeter3941]

This was ONE OF THE BEST CARRIER BATTLES YOU EVER DONE! Thank you very much GR... THANK YOU! I hope you will get well soon from your infection or whatever it is. All the best for you CAP! One of the best KZbin Channels out here! Thank you once again!

[@Joshua-sh1vr]

Thanks

[@sampanyofella5832]

my GOSH cap you are such a BRILLIANT narrator!! Thoroughly enjoyed that and it's been one of the highlights of my week! Thanks for all the incredible hard work that you guys undertake.

[@foulball13219]

Great Vid Cap.

[@MWSin1]

The difference in West and East doctrine is always interesting to me. West doctrine: The guided missile ships defend the aircraft carrier so it can deliver the strike package. East doctrine: The aircraft carrier defends the guided missile ships so they can deliver the strike package.

[@AdminAccount-cr2tb]

Think strategically rather than tactically and you'll get your anwser.

[@bobert878]

Fleet battles are what got me into this community, always worth the hour to watch, keep on keeping on!

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

Now you gotta do 2027/28 Russia China vs UK US.

[@whiteshark450]

That's just US vs China....

[@ew264]

So 2027 China VS 2027 US with a circus each to support them?

[@limitlessLtd]

@@whiteshark450 The US often works with allies to enhance its capabilities. Lookup NATO and multi-national CSGs

[@chanedmund4252]

@@limitlessLtd how do you not get what he means bro

[@limitlessLtd]

​@@chanedmund4252 Because allies are indespensible and theres a good reason why the US works with and maintains such close alliances. I understand what he's trying to say, and its wrong.

[@torsten6018]

Great battle! ButI think the scoreboard got the red losses wrong. Where did the surviving 7 Suchois land?

[@grimreapers]

lol yes.

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

Some went to Bodo, but I noticed that when the aircraft are stowed into the carrier it isn't caught by the scoreboard

[@grenade180sx]

I wish we could simulate the submarine factor in these naval battles. So much more at play

[@danhodson7187]

Agreed, that's when those ASW Type 26's would really come into their own!

[@Maedhros0Bajar]

I don't think the Moskva would be very effective to be fair

[@maxlin3442]

The Moskva is the most powerful submarine to exist

[@dexlab7539]

Russia has far more subs and more advanced - so this would have ended badly

[@elliot4252]

@@dexlab7539The Moskva doesn’t count, also I think you’ll find the Astute is more powerful.

[@chrisstopher2277]

Thank you, cap. Any naval battles are my favorite, but I'll watch any of your videos. You explaining things and your genuine excitement is always great.

[@LegitimateCK4120]

Also got to consider, by 2027 it's rumoured the F35B could have the sidekick mod, which will allow them 2 ASRAAMs too. They use those and shoot down more SU33Ms anti ship, and the Brits win with some spare change Also impressed by the SPEAR 3. feel like it should be tested vs a boat swarm, seems perfect with the amount carried. But that and the futuristic SPEAR 5 is a great 1-2 punch

[@grimreapers]

Good idea.

[@joshuasenior4370]

I believe it may have been a design consideration to use it against boat swarms.

[@Claudius_Nero]

Lockheed Martin themselves have stated the sidekick rack system is for the A&C variants only and say the weapons bays in the B are too small to benefit. What is the basis of this rumor?

[@LegitimateCK4120]

@@Claudius_Nero I stand corrected then

[@LegitimateCK4120]

@@joshuasenior4370 it would make a lot of sense due to the amount carried and how expensive even the cheapest American anti-swam missiles are

[@trev8591]

That was awfully exciting, Cap! Thank you.

[@davidhuss2301]

Never clicked so fast…

[@Ikbeneengeit]

UK GDP is somewhat larger that Russia. So Russia's losses of 3x UK are devastating. Not to mention that the UK's F-35s would realistically just re-arm and go clean up the rest of the defenceless Russian fleet.

[@Akodo94]

GDP meen nothing in case of actual war. Commercial companies with very high GDP would not give you weapons.

[@regarded9702]

​@@Akodo94 true, but GDP does relatively well corellate to the wealth of a nation. Meaning the UK would probably be able to buy much more than Russia could, and invest much more to replace what it lost.

[@5Andysalive]

they can always ask big daddy China for support and worry about the consequences later.

[@Akodo94]

@@regarded9702 all this would take time and raw resources, that you wouldn't have. And after big war began commercial companies will lost a lot in value.

[@regarded9702]

@@Akodo94 my point was that we can buy resources immediately. Production capacity takes time to generate true, even if you can afford to invest massively in it, but we can afford to buy what we lack from our allies until we can produce it ourselves. This is true for all major european countries, even ignoring defence clauses in NATO and the EU. Hence I view all things on a Europe vs Russia scale, as all of europe would be working towards Russia's defeat, even if they were not militarily involved, which they would be. I ignore the US from this as we cannot guarantee it would not be focussed on South East Asia instead. When looking at competition with Russia from a Europe vs Russia basis, Russia has 5 distinct advantages: amoured vehicle production, missile production, shell production, nuclear overmatch and autocracy. Of those only 3 are relevent to this comment: AFV production (IFVs, APCs, tanks, etc) is largely propped up by burning through soviet stockpiles and is a temporary advantage at best. Missile production is an area of geniune concern. Russia is to my knowledge relatively even with europe and seems to be picking up speed. This is easy for europe to fix by just putting in more orders for missiles though, as I am confident most production lines are not running at full capacity. Shell production is a major problem. Russia is currently outproducing not just Europe but the entire west (can't remember if that figure includes RoK). Under current plans, things should even out by 2026 but that relies on Europe actually investing in and building quickly enough new production lines, which it seems to be struggling to do. Anyway, all that is to say, Russia's only real production advantage is in shell production, which it is genuinely winning in and currently by a large degree. But that alone is not enough to claim Europe would be outproduced by Russia generally. This seems to have turned into a rant so sorry about that, but I hope it explained my point.

[@harpernoss]

You know it's a good day when GR posts!

[@the.just.able.biker67]

I always watch the intro to every video. Not only do they give a description of what's going on, but they also give an insight into the amount of thought and planning that Cap and the rest of the GR's have to do for each video. Keep up the good work guys. 👍

[@Wyomingchief]

That's the thing that irritates me so much about the comment section sometimes, if people just took the time to actually pay attention and listen to the intro and the setup they would have their questions answered

[@exAirMover]

Just clicked onto this Cap. Question: Have you put the Kuznetsoz's tug boat into this? 😊

[@greghanson5696]

Great battle!! Thanks for all your efforts Cap.

[@MusashiK2000]

I was wondering when you were going to remember the second mushroom farm on the Type 26s - took you long enough!

[@grimreapers]

lol yes

[@Skiesaremine]

Are you sure Russia would have a CV in 2027?

[@paintwaster1]

They really dont have one now.

[@jayeshborole403]

same with white thives , they cant afford carriers

[@subjectc7505]

Or the UK

[@regarded9702]

​​@@subjectc7505 for the all the problems ours have had, they have never had a crane fall on them lol

[@subjectc7505]

@@regarded9702 our carrier had mishaps like the Admiral lol.

[@brunswicklord6365]

Life long wargamer here having played WW1 naval with minis and many Fleet series scenarios,,,, thrilling game and exciting commentary. Rounds of Kye for the crews and Pink Gins in the officers mess for the RN.

[@vortex839]

I love the energy! You sounded quite like a sports commentator and it made me a lot more enthusiastic about the battle! Enjoy your day very much!

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

Lovely bit of battle there, our valued Cap is on form today!

[@chrisvinicombe9947]

Off that was tight. Fun battle thx cap

[@josephsullivan5145]

You did such an amazing job with commentating the event. It was non stop and you really worked hard!!! Rest that voice!!

[@morganfisher7430]

May be the best one yet. Great job Cap

[@Savage_Viking]

No tactical classic British Teatime battle pause? LOL great video and interesting.

[@joshuasenior4370]

Not sure if you know Cap but the 8x Spear-3s are supposed to be able to fit in the F-35 weapon bays alongside 2 meteors/Amraams.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, but there is a weird restriction I have that stops me :(

[@shadow0sprey]

Are there any plans for the Type 31 Frigate that is currently being made for the RN and is going to come into service 2027 to be made for DCS?

[@grimreapers]

Yup.

[@shadow0sprey]

@@grimreapers Yay! Can't wait.

[@Zachattack-ot2un]

I feel like it would be a great idea for the UK to acquire the v-22 and put an awacs radar on top of it to use on their carriers instead of using a helicopter as AWACS because the v-22 can fly higher, faster and has longer loiter time

[@joshuasenior4370]

Is it even possible to get one on top of it given the folding rotors etc?

[@danhodson7187]

With EMALS likely to be added to the QE's in the not too distant future, which was planned for when building, maybe they will be able to accommodate conventional AWACS, whether that be Hawkeye or something else. Will have to wait and see.

[@dogsnads5634]

@@danhodson7187 QE is not getting EMALS. It will likely be the UK EMKIT development....it won't handle anything as large as E-2 or F-35...and thats if the Navy gets funds to do it (doubtful)...

[@dogsnads5634]

@christhorpejunction8982 There was a few V-22 suggestions for AEW...but none progressed. V-22 height is an issue as it is not pressurised in in effect is restricted in altitude to the same as a helo...range with the aerial array would also be significantly restricted due to drag... Plus we'd now be in a similar situation as the US with a grounded fleet, and CMV-22 not being able to fly over water for extended periods....

[@GG-yr5ix]

The Russians do not have an active carrier now, nor will they in 2027. Even if they did cobble one together, SU-33 gets derated considerably with anything less that 50kph wind down the deck. Mako is also going to be in service by 2027. SPEAR-3 is a bit undersized for taking on a carrier, but then Russian Carriers can take themselves out pretty well based on empirical evidence

[@mediador9161]

The Su-33s have been retired lol they are no longer in service and will not be, they have been replaced by MIG-29KRs

[@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs]

Spear 3 isn't intended to take out a carrier, it's purpose is to just be a metric ton of cheap _stuff_ that you can force your enemy to expend SAMs on, so that the actual antiship-missiles can come in and get through. Which it did an _excellent_ job at in this wargame.

[@subjectc7505]

Nor will the UK due to the inability to upkeep it.

[@WilkyTheFlyingScotsman]

@@subjectc7505 Do you have facts for that statement? as we have 2 and they have both been deployable longer than they have been in for teetering problems (happens with every new ship class, just look at the new yank carriers)

[@subjectc7505]

@@WilkyTheFlyingScotsman Look at the White Paper Review and the UK financial issues, the teething excuse isn't gonna pass. They literally mothballed the second one until now and it even couldn't leave drydock because of flooding and losing a propeller also the lack of crew.

[@MacKay1812]

That was awesome ! thanks

[@davidnichols8433]

Awesome 👌

[@jcremeringful]

One of the best battles you guys have done!!

[@darthonian8857]

One of the Best :)

[@darthonian8857]

And I think the word was "Skin of our teeth".

[@dougroberts3840]

That was a really cool battle, Cap narrating like that had me on the edge of my seat.

[@nietkees6906]

The Zircon doesn’t look like the one in the thumbnail. It actually looks really similar to Oniks and is basically just an upgraded Oniks.

[@kuunoooo7293]

It does look like thar

[@nietkees6906]

@@kuunoooo7293 Nope. In launch footage and debris from shot down examples in Ukraine it looks basically like an upgrade Oniks. The design used here is based on concept art.

[@kuunoooo7293]

@@nietkees6906 shotdown in ukraine ? Bud this missle isnt even in active service and is tested with the artic and pacific fleet, not the blacksea fleet. Mabye you're refering the the kinzhal and thats its basicly an airlaunched antiship version of the iskander-m

[@nietkees6906]

@@kuunoooo7293 No, I am referring to the Zircon. It is in service, and they used it in Ukraine and one was shot down a few months ago. I can’t post links, but you can google it.

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

@@kuunoooo7293 both kinzhal and zircon have been downed in ukraine.

[@waffleshardware]

Nice to hear cap again! Hope you are doing better my guy!

[@SeanChYT]

I enjoyed it!

[@alamocannon3791]

best 48 mins of the evening.

[@EnglishScripter]

Oh god yes, thank you!

[@themacker894]

Very exciting! One of your best. Thanks!

[@mediador9161]

Why do you always use the Su-33s if they have been retired?

[@watcherzero5256]

He said at the start, they usually use Mig-29 as the carrier aircraft but Russian viewers complained they wanted a superior performance carrier capable aircraft.

[@mediador9161]

@@watcherzero5256 not his problem, also not "usually" they were all retired a couple of years ago. But I understand

[@watcherzero5256]

​@@mediador9161 The plan was to retire the 19 remaining Su-33 (of 22 built) in 2015 when they had enough Mig-29K's with 24 ordered for the airwing which started entering service in 2009, but in 2016 after a Su-33 crashed they announced they wouldnt be retired and trsnsferred to Syria instead where they receiving a targeting computer upgrade that year and in 2017 they announced engine refits which started being delivered from 2019 with them to return to the carrier when its refurbishment was complete as the first airwing with the Mig 29K forming the second airwing.

[@onlythatonetime]

I love when stuff goes pear shaped 😂. Very entertaining!

[@Snowwie88]

Why would the returning Lightnings not help out the other Lightnings engaging the Flankers?

[@Wyomingchief]

DCS

[@CJWall_rott]

Wonderfully cap’s voice did not die

[@michaellucas7882]

Thanks!

[@StephenSmithSimRacung]

Best battle yet for me, The commentry was epic :)

[@petergu4459]

can u please do a 2027 chinese naval vs British 2027 naval

[@grimreapers]

Yup

[@harveybedford2091]

@@grimreaperswill you be able to use Type 31 in the next UK Naval battle

[@Dawnbandit1]

One of the best fleet battles that you've uploaded!

[@skatman3278]

WAY too many ASh F35s lol. Sheer amount of Spear3s at the end was ridiculous hahaha. More AA F35s would mean no SU-33S to launch those last missiles.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh I know, it's hard to judge until you run everything together.

[@skatman3278]

@@grimreapers for sure. Not a criticism. Just made me chuckle just how many Spear3s were pumped out at the end. 😂

[@danhodson7187]

But it was a glorious sight to see 192 SPEAR 3's on their way to the carrier group and Cap was right in that it did preoccupy all the Russian AA for the SPEAR 5's. If anything, I was thinking that the Russian airwing was so dominated by the British airwing, that the Antishippers could've gone out in higher visibility murder spec 16 SPEAR 3's instead and used half as many airframes for it, probably allowing for twice as many AA's.

[@skatman3278]

@@danhodson7187 haha. It sure was glorious and yes, I think you're right. Does the range of the Spear3 out range the S2A capability of the Russians? If so, then yeah you're definitely right. Only thought I had was the stealth characteristic of the F35 allowed it to get closer than it would otherwise.

[@danhodson7187]

@@skatman3278 Cap would certainly know more than me. If the F35B can get close enough to launch in murder spec before it is seen, then that could definitely be the way to go. From the video the AA airwing were closer than the SPEAR 3 airwing to the Russian carrier group and were not launched on by the carrier group. So quite possible :) Edit: look at 32:47 as a freeze-frame.

[@MrBenski81]

Had Cap not been narrating, we would have all lost interest by the 20min mark. Great to hear you back CAP!!!

[@kevinshort3943]

Russian Carrier on fire and belching black smoke. Standard operating procedure?

[@whataboutist]

Splendid commentary, including tea and blood pressure, Cap.

[@KimLind]

Will u test Russian S 500, maybe with C.H mods? Great video.

[@christopherchartier3017]

Is that even real? I thought the S400 and S350 were the best

[@kermittoad]

​@@christopherchartier3017Yeah it's been awhile since it was introduced, a whole regiment worth of em, son of the S-300V series.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh will do but not priority ATM.

[@hughmungus2760]

s500 is a pure ABM system and has no real use against aircraft

[@Wyomingchief]

Yeah right, the mythical S500😂😂 probably an s300 that they repainted and stuck a couple widgets on to it to make it look different. And yet Russia still can't defend its own airspace😂😂😂

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

Best one yet, great work by all involved.

[@kevinhunkin6364]

Dragon fire?

[@TanksForTheMammeries]

That was a BRILLIANT fight. Well done.

[@timbaskett6299]

Those Spear-3s are what a "decoy" should do. Semi-expendable, but with a mission.

[@dogsnads5634]

There will be multiple versions of Spear evebtually (not Spear 3, thats the MoD requirement name, missile is called MBDA Spear). Spear - 120nm+ mini cruise missile Spear-EW - c300nm Decoy/Jammer (like MALD-J) uses the Leonardo Britecloud tech SpearGlide - c70-80nm Glide munition, same seeker as Spear but no engine, but twice as large warhead (SDBII equivalent) MRUSW - No real name yet, but will likely be SpearGlide without the complex seeker,GPS/INS and perhaps SAL only, penetrating warhead (SDBI equivalent) - low cost

[@timbaskett6299]

​@dogsnads5634 What I mean is that even if it's a "decoy" it should still have an offensive/defensive mission. An example would be having a few submunitions in them with a GPS point to deploy them if they get through. Pinpoint the GPS coordinates for a SAM site then sent the decoy in that direction.

[@dogsnads5634]

@@timbaskett6299 You could do that...but every kilo of munitions on board reduces the fuel load and endurance of the system...which is its primary role.

[@dylandarnell3657]

@@dogsnads5634 But if they pose no actual threat, then the enemy can ignore them and the bluff collapses. The whole advantage of the SPEAR 3 is that the enemy _has_ to expend air-defense resources on it. Toothless decoys only work as long as the enemy doesn't learn to identify them as decoys. The warhead (and captain-seeking guidance capacity) gives SPEAR 3 more enduring utility - even if the enemy learns to distinguish it from more serious threats, they will still need to shoot it down, or that meager 10kg explosive will get delivered to the room where all the important officers are.

[@Joker18336]

Great video. Love the play by play. Keep them coming.

[@corvanphoenix]

This is highly unrealistic. The AK doesn't go anywhere without a tug boat to bring it home 😂

[@Ozymandias83]

No Nakhimov battlecruiser with zircons?

[@nietkees6906]

The Zircon is actually correctly modeled in the game, but not on the thumbnail. It looks really similar to Oniks based on published launch footage and wreckage found in Ukraine. It is also just an upgraded and higher flying Oniks.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Very good battle, as only GR does!

[@mediador9161]

Bruh, The Russians have retired all Su-33s, the 2017 SM modernization was canceled as was the K. In 2022, only 18 of the 48 remained in service. Today, none. They have been retired and replaced by the MIG-29KR, modernized K ones.

[@xpk0228]

some of the already small numbers of Mig29KR is destroyed by UKR with drones too. I think last week I saw a news title talking about Russians giving up on the carrier which is a smart decision for them.

[@yaraelpoof7242]

@@xpk0228thats just a lie

[@regarded9702]

1:34 don't let the RAF hear that

[@michaelstoops760]

"Crap in a hat!" is now my new favorite phrase .

[@HansHammertime]

That was nail biting!

[@frenchcar7664]

Would love to see the modernised Kirov class battlecruiser Admiral Nakhimov

[@stupidburp]

Do the UK F-35B usually fly with their external gun pods?

[@grimreapers]

Almost never. I add it as standard though in games.

[@mstevens113]

The UK never bought any so they will never fly with the pod!

[@Wyomingchief]

​@@mstevens113wrong

[@mstevens113]

@@Wyomingchief source for that? All the info from the MOD states no gun pod ordered.

[@mstevens113]

@@Wyomingchief I take it there is no source then...

[@Anarchy_420]

Long Awaited U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet 3rd Rematch! Obviously Kuznetsov Carrier. I personally think keep The MIG-29KR's for Air-Air and The SU-33M's for Anti-Ship! MIG-29KR's with R-77M's and SU-33M's with Kinzhal's! 5 Gorshkov Frigates and 1 Slava Cruiser for the Lols! The U.S. Ford Class Carrier, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation Frigates*, and 2 Ticonderoga's! F/A-18F's with AIM-260's and F-35C's* with Mako's!🙏👍

[@markredacted8547]

Someone wants Cap to make a YT shorts 😂😂

[@stephen_1987]

Çould the antiship F-35's have carried air to air missiles as well? Is it possible in DCS for tell them to fire antiship missiles and then go air to air?

[@svensvensson2724]

So the British tactic was to drain russian defenses and then launch their good stuff. And the russian tactic was to drain all their own good stuff and then have nothing decent to fight with. Doesn't seem like an equal setup.

[@WilkyTheFlyingScotsman]

he cant exactly tell them what to fire and when

[@hughmungus2760]

realistically the Russian fleet would back off after salvoing their long range missiles. The zircon could have been fired from 1000km away The main advantage of hypersonics isn't their difficulty of being hit but also their extreme range allowing for other assets like SSNs and bombers to support a fleet from out of theatre.

[@svensvensson2724]

@@hughmungus2760 I would expect a combined attack where Zircons are used for the final together with other missiles & drones in one continous attack. Just lauching zircons is a gift to the opponent.

[@hughmungus2760]

@@svensvensson2724 Keep in mind if this battle modelled with ammunition persistence. The Russians can just call in additional zircon strikes from nearly bombers or SSNs in hiding to finish off a depleted UK fleet without ever putting it's own fleet in danger. A single zircon is sucking up half a dozen interceptors

[@svensvensson2724]

@@hughmungus2760 True. Russia almost always fight on their own borders. NATO never does.

[@Pantsir-S1M]

Good video!

[@jamison884]

Lovely video Cap. But, you forgot to mention how the Russian carrier is essentially sunk prior to the battle hah. ❤

[@cyronader]

love it!

[@saintuk70]

Best telly watch not on the telly

[@Jordanpgates1]

Now that was a great battle!

[@MichaelJCaboose013]

Super unrealistic...the Russian boats need tugs to move anywhere hahaha

[@tomsoki5738]

If this accounted for the strange British missile targeting and Russian military incompetenance it would be an absolute white wash

[@MichaelJCaboose013]

When a very stoppable force meets a very movable object. Wet noodle fight.

[@svampen7782]

Epic battle!

[@ze_epic_llama7331]

Could the anti shippers not turned in to use their guns after launching? I wonder if that would have made things easier for thr brits

[@johncrichton4341]

So happy that you're still gabbing Cap!

[@John333Scout]

i love these carrier and battle scenarios. What would be cool to better meet the team and understand your guys aka the Humaniods, to do like a best of 3 tournament between all the guys to understand the hierarchy of pilot's skill when looking at these scenarios. Like Simba, Grump, Cannonball, Matrix, Cap yourself, Killer, Strider, Bird, Poosh. I know I am missing some like our German friend and etc. But it would be cool to see who comes out on top in a dogfight 1v1 tournament style. you could maybe do one at 4th gen and another at 5th and let the pilots pick their airframe and missiles. Like 5th gen everyone will pick the Raptor and AIM 260 but 4th Gen I could see F-15 (120D), F-16 (120D), J-15 (PL-15), Su-35 (R-77), & F-18 (120D) all being used. It is also nice cuz you don't need everyone on at once to do it and can just piece it together at the end in one video. You could even do a battle like this then after the scenario run a couple matchups with who is there and wait till next time so hopefully wouldn't add too much time to what awesome work you already do. I've watched many videos and It seems each have their moments of brilliant flying but who is the actual Top Gun!

[@Claudius_Nero]

At 39:58 he says in real life they would be smart missiles and go for parts of the carrier they (Russia) could not afford to be hit. So... in real life they would go for the tugboat?

[@GillesNoyau-p8c]

"...survived by pure fluke." which is how Britain usually survives.

[@jordanhooper1527]

Once you've survived multiple times by fluke... is it actually a fluke?

[@darkmatter6714]

“When you fight the British, you are fighting fate itself” - Napoleon Bonaparte - (writing from his prison island, where the British placed him in exile, shortly before his death)

[@jamielye2246]

Dick head....you hater and clearly got a problem with the UK. Your a TERRORIST SESPECT......C.I.A OR MI5 Need to snach you off the street for a talk. ^^^^*!!

[@mr.starks]

AMAZING!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 wow that was great video!!

[@SmilingCamperVan-dd8cb]

The SU-33M is a very interesting concept. It gives the Russian navy F-14 like capability when equipped with the R-77M. Very cool.

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

Nah, a navalized MiG-31 would fit the F-14 bill a little better, this is more like a naval F-15N

[@andyo8141]

What will they launch off, the backs of giant inflatable ducks?

[@LegitimateCK4120]

@@totalNERD-eo7wx my sick brain wants that navalised MiG-31

[@mediador9161]

The Su-33 has been retired so it is no longer worth thinking about improvements

[@Doodelz02]

​@@andyo8141 Does it make me a bad wooington that I now want to see a battle with giant inflatable ducks?

[@sam03409]

Will you start trying to model dragon fire on the British frigates as its ment to enter servixe around 2027ish? And how if in any way do you think it will effect things?