MODERNIZED 2025 UK Carrier Group vs 2025 French Carrier Group (Naval Battle 86) | DCS

[@nathaniellazo5912]

It sucks to see you guys getting bashed by youtube... hope everything goes well for you guys!! How is it that from all the different match ups I suggested, I never thought of the French?!?! This is going to be a great match-up indeed!!

[@ThunderChunky101]

It's because they use the words Russia and Ukraine.

[@Wildfire86872]

And Google's overlords: China.

[@chrisparnham]

It would be a lot better without his 'mates' who seemed to have unlimited attacks in the French jets - one appeared to have 5 lives and seemed only interested in his little bit of the game. It has the effect of ruining any reality of the scenario.

[@watcherzero5256]

AM39 Exocet as modeled is a minor update on the the original 70's missile, the Block 3 naval launched version of the Exocet introduced in the early 2000's increased the range to around 100nm and the Block 3C which entered service last year is a more substantial upgrade increasing its range to around 200nm. The French Navy also use the MDCN as a submarine/ship launched ASM in a role similar to Tomahawk, and Storm Shadow/SCALP EG as an air launched ground attack weapon, both are part of the same weapon family as the British Storm Shadow. There's a joint Anglo-French program called FC/ASW thats developing replacement weapons for all these weapons with a planned service entry in the 2030's.

[@sulyokpeter3941]

Yeah that FC/ASW will include a mach 5 stealth anti ship missile both air and ship launched version. I cant wait for that! + they keep upgrading together the Aster family which is nice. Aster 30 will be able to intercept an ICBM in the near future which is going to be installed on both the French ships and the British Type 45 Destroyers.

[@TT-hd3zi]

MDCN isn't an ASM and FC/ASW's planned in-service date is 2027

[@Boeing777FR]

@@sulyokpeter3941it’s incredible what we can achieve and our two country work together

[@oakpope]

@@TT-hd3zi Nothing prevent it to be.

[@PureMatteo]

what bugged me is this is one wikipedia click away

[@anonymous17367]

You should read about the SPECTRA of the rafale, it is a phenomenal system

[@sigma_frenchie4075]

the thing is most of the Spectra system is classified, you only get a general idea of what it is; same thing for the F-35's EW systems, you can't really compare both in depth

[@SoldatInconus]

The French CSG is missing the anti-air destroyers, Fremms are anti-sub frigates, you need to add the Horizon class, which is broadly equivalent to the type 45 as well as the sub class of the Fremm made for air defense as they both carry the Aster 30 which is for Area air defense compared to the Aster 15 which is for point defense

[@rafalemirage8626]

Yep, ship wise it’s not a fair fight ! It’s like putting type 45s vs types 23s. They can’t defend the same. By the way Rafale are a little cheaper than F-35s especially the B version which is really expensive. This this especially true if you take the operating costs.

[@SoldatInconus]

@@rafalemirage8626 plus add the Horizon class and suddenly you have the beautiful S1850 L band radar which will spot all of the F-35 B flying. And by the time the UK will have 30 F-35 to put on their carrier, the Aeronavale will have the E-2D with the aesa radar and UHF bands capable of giving weapons tracks on stealth aircrafts via datalink

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

Yeah, putting 6 air-defence destroyers on one side and 6 ASW frigates on the other side and see how an air battle will play out is pretty one-sided. Esp. considering that Horizon and T45 are not just equivalent in role but pretty much (estranged) brothers.

[@Magezzz]

@@SoldatInconus French tech is garbage stop trying to come out with excuses you barely have a military anymore, you can't even provide ukraine with anything its pathetic

[@SoldatInconus]

@@Magezzz if they are so pathetic, then put their actual forces in the battle and still beat them! I'm just saying, you won half a victory, I don't know if it would have made a difference in the end, I am just saying you are missing critical parts of the French arm forces to make the engagement realistic

[@MartiniiSLO]

It is sad. KZbin is getting a little over agresive with they're algorithm. But I really appreciate your videos they are amazing, I hope you will do better elsewhere.

[@lenadams854]

| they're | Wow... I can't even make fun of that.

[@86that11]

Sorry. Love your videos! Please understand not criticizing… Have you got a naval advisor on your team? If not, let me know happy to help. M. Pay.

[@sbirish25]

"A little" is an understatement. Their algorithms are ridiculous.

[@emmata98]

Yeah, also those lengths aren't favored by KZbin

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

Little?

[@mikepreamp6053]

According to MBDA, the MM40mk3 has a range of 200km.

[@watcherzero5256]

Ship launched.

[@tommymayfield7367]

You guys make great content. I look forward to your videos every week. Make a patreon, I’m sure many of us would contribute. It’d be cool to do more races, but have the pilots for each plane do some practice for best climb efficiencies for each plane before the race.

[@nataliefaust7959]

Their patreon is always linked in the video description. 😉

[@nvalidwerdz1078]

They have one. It's in the info, twice, lol.

[@tommymayfield7367]

Should’ve checked first, done.

[@Kevin-rg7kl]

They should advertise the patreon more

[@thetorturepenguin]

As a patriotic Brits, I can confirm that we would kick France's arse in a battle like this.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

The FREMMs carry Exocet MM40 Block 3's....Exocet has been developed into a purely Ship Launched weapon it seems with the AM-39 version being the only Air Launched version. MM-40 Block 3 has a far larger range than the air launched version...it has 110 NM / 200KM Range. The FREMMs use a PESA Radar, they are planning to replace that with an AESA Radar (Both France and Italy as they both use FREMMS) The French carrier should have 2x6 Round SADRAL launchers for CIWS...they fire Mistral 2 and probably Mistral 3 if they have produced enough of them. SADRAL is E/O and FLIR based Search and Track and Mistrals 2 can Push 30G overload

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, sadly not modelled on Cuesta's model :(

[@victormelchy1264]

The CDG carrier also has 32 vls fitted with aster 15 missiles. Each of those FREMMS should have launched 8 Exocets

[@Ultrabrezel]

With the GR/DCS space, I think we are now over at least 10+ different category's of content that is basically blacklisted/not wanted by the YT overloads.

[@betariffic1]

Shame about KZbin, will totally support on patreon to help keep the content going, your videos are truly top tier

[@grimreapers]

Thanks a lot, Patreon link in vid description.

[@dexlab7539]

Patreon is a great way to support Cap on any platform!

[@chrisbcrust]

"Did you model white flags for the french?" "And demonitized again!" I just laughed so hard. Keep up the good work, no matter the host.

[@jomo350350]

i laughed so hard in 1982🤣

[@jay1st1st]

Excellent video !! But the french carry an AWACS onboard the carrier, and that could change the game

[@cymro8902]

So do RN carriers but only in the form of a helicopter

[@Warship_Warriors]

​@@cymro8902 helicopter awacs are not as efficient as an E-2

[@stupidburp]

France is working on FMAN/FMC CVS401 Perseus concept missiles to replace Exocet. UK is also part of the project and refer to it as FC/ASW. Originally it included a hypersonic variant but current work is focused on subsonic and supersonic variants. France also has SCALP Naval for ship and sub launched antiship missiles but is limited to Exocet for air launched antiship missiles for now.

[@soulsphere9242]

SCALP is not an anti-ship missile. It is a land attack missile.

[@stupidburp]

@@soulsphere9242 Perhaps I wasn't clear. They have a ship and sub launched variant as I said. Being launched from a naval vessel doesn't meant it is antiship. As I said, for antiship they use Exocet. I mentioned both land attack and antiship missiles to give a more complete picture of their current status.

[@themacker894]

There's really no potential war scenario you and your team can't simulate. Nice job! We'll miss you guys!

[@willielinks3865]

Go support them they’re not going away

[@totalnerd5674]

Nice to see the Charlie Deagle working properly! Say, I would like to see a video with a joint UK/French Carrier Strike Group using all the assets seen here, perhaps striking some land target or port or something...

[@joshuapowell2675]

I've seen some discussion about the Rafale vs the F-35 and this simulation reinforces a prime argument: you can't hit what you can't target. Save for some close range shots, most of the radar-guided weapons carried by the Rafale aren't very useful against a stealth aircraft unless that stealth aircraft presents itself

[@surters]

The French should use their MM40 Block 3c on the frigats/destoyers to have a better chance.

[@zykilo674]

stay on youtube make a patreon

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

KZbin has gotten censorship happy. Patreon is garbage too. Woke Leftists are destroying everything.

[@grimreapers]

Patreon link is in the description :)

[@juliusfucik4011]

Thanks! Please keep going! Value for value! I need your entertainment.

[@DripsDrop]

♥️

[@grimreapers]

Holy Heck thanks Julius! Love you xx

[@dexlab7539]

Awesome - Remember to support Cap/GR on Patreon (see link in description) - keep his content going 😊😊

[@dougabrahamsen2952]

I was totally surprised to see the server present the French cross. It was an actual tactic and very deadly in it's time! For reference look at 15.25 min

[@rebelliousfew]

I hate that YT is doing this to y’all, most if not all of us will definitively be following you to the other platforms that actually appreciate good content. Hope you’re doing well!

[@fiftycal1]

The Type 45’s are an excellent design. The USN likes to have one ride Shotgun when transiting The Straights of Hormuz - The Radar is excellent!

[@hacherskanon3082]

If the NSMs properly deconflicted the damage would have been much greater

[@CMDRSweeper]

@@flashgordon6670 Possibly due to a bug with the frigate's radar most likely, so I expect if that was fixed, we would see something different. But alas, such is war, stuff may look good on paper, but no plan can or has survived first contact with the enemy.

[@dannystratyys4002]

Thanks for the platform update! Life would suck if I couldn’t find your videos all of a sudden. I’ll be sure to jump over to the other platforms. Hope everything else is going well.

[@willielinks3865]

Sorry this is happening Cap, I’ll happily follow your channel to whatever platform you go to. The tech left is destroying free speech so I’m hoping YT diminishes all together

[@OzzieBo]

Legend has it, the French were shouting as it goes, “SACRÉ BLEU!”

[@Bradygoat6390]

Rumble is uncensored KZbin. I love it. See you over there Cap and GR !

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@shearfury147]

your channel is my zen space. i feel like i know all of you. Love the scenarios. I really like the time period comparisons. old vs new. the Helicopter vs wwi warbirds was brilliant.

[@Maverick0451]

As soon as a I saw the thumbnail for this video, Nelson came to mind!!! "You must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your King, and you must treat every Frenchman as if he were the Devil himself." Rule Britannia!! This was incredibly entertaining. Fly, you seriously did the French proud though too picking off as many anti-ship missiles as possible, and you even stuck the landing at the end, hats off on making the best of a bad situation for your team!! Side note: To Super Cap and all the Grim Reapers; this valued viewer will follow your work on ANY platform that is advantageous to you!! Thank you for all that you do!!

[@DripsDrop]

♥️

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Seth!! xx

[@Nic_SARNDEL]

Most channels are moving over to a membership model because no-one watches adverts anyway. KZbin can do what the hell they like with their algorithm but we have all kinds of ad blockers. Just as there are Twitter extensions which remove the algorithm and return the app to chronological and get rid of the tab - I can't remember what it is called it has been blocked from the start.

[@lightbenderga2017]

Let’s see if those Type 45’s are gonna be worth it.

[@Hypernefelos]

Hm, isn't Meteor integration in the F-35 supposed to be done by around 2027? I expected them to be using AMRAAMs in this scenario.

[@inwedavid6919]

Yes meteor don't work actually in F35 and without the scenario will end in another way.

[@kuboisthebestdooboday4028]

@@inwedavid6919not really because amraams have a similar range to meteor

[@jeoverv]

Nice to see the Norwegian NSM Naval Strike Missile, even upside down! I believe NSM are supposed to maneuver when approaching targets to dodge CIWS and other short range weapons, and they will of course not all go for the same target. I hope the NSM soon will evolve into a more realistic one in game, and that its sister the JSM Joint Strike Missile soon will be a part of the F-35s weaponry as it will in real life. Keep up the good work Reapers, I hope it will be possible for you to stay here on KZbin as well. Greetings from Norway, home of the NSM, JSM and NASAMS. :)

[@t-pap]

Great to see you thank everyone in the video info except the Modders that actually made all the modules you are using , on which the entire video is based and which you monetize.

[@onetime8424]

Really enjoyed this one! Laughed the whole time! I will be following and supporting you guys on anything I can. keep it up!

[@Greenamus]

"OOH, I AM LE TIRED"that one got me😂😂

[@ryanpayne7707]

"Who's going to win?" The guys selling tickets on both sides to see the fight. LOL "...I don't understand why all missiles don't work like that." Because there's only a set amount of oxygen in a given amount of air. This limits the rate at which fuel can be burned and, by extension, the missile's acceleration. If you have a solid rocket motor, however, you can get far more oxidizer in per unit volume and burn fuel faster.

[@DrTenZero]

Love your stuff....jsut joined rumble and became a tier 3 patron....keep up the good work

[@DripsDrop]

♥️

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Ten much appreciated! xx

[@dexlab7539]

Awesome Stuart 😊😊

[@TheWeatherbuff]

I was about to launch a weather-related channel on YT, but now I'm upset. Maybe I'll just start out on Rumble. And, I will follow you guys there... starting today.

[@miauwgabriel3547]

Actually, the FREMM frigate are now fitted with Exocets.... Leading the fact that they don't use harpoons anymore.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@miauwgabriel3547]

@@grimreapers You are totally welcome of the fact.

[@Istandby666]

This is why people are moving to other platforms. Look in to those and let us know where you're moving.

[@QuentinStephens]

Sorry to hear that KZbin is letting you down. I've not heard of those other two platforms.

[@pickashole]

Being a valued viewer is what brings me back time and time again.

[@macruz67]

Just followed both your channels on Rumble! Love your content!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@dexlab7539]

Support Cap/GR on Patreon (see link in description) - keep his content going 😊😊

[@oakpope]

Why no Horizons ? And Fremm are without their scalp cruise missiles ?

[@LentPanic7]

It’s refreshing to see Britain and France going back to their roots

[@inwedavid6919]

Britain don't exist it is a French colony, conquested by french a soldiers in 1066 for glory of the King of France that just rebels and get its independance after the 100 years war, non 100 y war is not an english french war but a French civil war between several French provinces.

[@Anarchy_420]

Please before you go :( First couple rounds-- F-18 Hornet's with AIM-120C-7's VS F-14B Tomcat's with AIM-54's! Second couple of rounds-- F-18 Super Hornet's with AIM-120D's VS ST-21 Super Tomcat's with AIM-152 GDW's! Lol bonus round SU-33's VS MIG-29K's! ALL Carrier Launched Fights!🙏

[@dexlab7539]

EVERYONE - Please support GR and Cap via their Patreon (see link in description)!!!!

[@tbe0116]

You guys need a better patreon strategy. Exclusive content, etc. would get those numbers up.

[@grimreapers]

hmm roger

[@dimitrispatsiaouras713]

With the Aster 30 already modelled I think it will be pretty nice to see it in it's land form the Samp. It is if I am not mistaken being sent to Ukraine. It could be interesting

[@peteb1823]

Guess I’m getting rumble! There’s a lot of creators I watch that are in same situation as GR. So il see you over on new platform. Keep making Great videos!! Need to get my pc up and running to get dcs up again and maybe be flying with u guys one day .!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@theheavy9378]

See y’all on Rumble

[@ryno07962]

I'm so excited for this video!

[@jonavery4978]

Yeah, been looking for an excuse to go to rumble. See you guys there.

[@diegoc.8518]

Very good content as usual! greetings from France

[@dexlab7539]

Hi France - thanks for the battle!

[@Eduardo-yh3rv]

Great Video Cap, I just noticed something on the taxpayer counter, which by the way is a great addition to the videos. I know this might be very difficult to model, but it only counts the missiles that it shoots, but some planes have missiles on them when shot down. So every Rafael down also need to count all the missiles that they didn't shoot, the loss would be aaa lot more. Anyways if your team can do it that would be awesome.

[@Davros-vi4qg]

Think they’ve modelled that now?

[@conmcgrath7174]

Hillarious. Worked on for 18 months! Took your time didn't you? Mad respect and Pax.

[@kazimamunalgalib2895]

I have a question- so your videos won’t uploaded on KZbin anymore? I enjoy thèse, watch them daily.

[@kingdedede1066]

Probably will just be uploaded on both. Even if this doesnt make much there is no reason to delete the channel

[@grimreapers]

Will continue on YT but will not be able to rely on it fully.

[@kazimamunalgalib2895]

@@grimreapers will there be any exclusive content on those other platforms?

[@robertbakedalaskanfitzhugh3016]

All good things must come to pass. will be following youse guys on whatever platform you move to😁Thank you for many hours of {GOOD KILL GOOD KILL} please continue to make many more. Sincerely Baked.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@dexlab7539]

Support Cap/GR on Patreon (see link in description) - keep his content going 😊😊

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

Super glad to see that you’re on Rumble. KZbin is becoming trash.

[@MattWaller04]

100% agree

[@lenadams854]

Did you watch EMpLemon?

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

@@lenadams854 Nope.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@Sailor_91]

Ah, Nice to see the Norwegian Kongsberg NSM ingame.

[@leobrooks3883]

added GR sub on rumble as I was listening. Good Luck GR and Super Cap. BTW your channel is not the only one that is getting the YT love.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@T_Bleezy]

I don’t know how much strain this would cause on your PC but you guys should simulate the British and French carrier groups VS a US carrier group.

[@EternallyDisappointed]

Both at once?

[@StewartWalker-hy1eo]

The US haven’t seen Naval war since WW2 and once them reactors were hit the support group would flee from the radiation poisoning instead of helping them to safety

[@Kalergiplansupporter]

​@@StewartWalker-hy1eothis comment aged well dont think the french or british cg is bad but neither stand a chance.

[@Kalergiplansupporter]

I like this idea alot

[@StewartWalker-hy1eo]

@@Kalergiplansupporter all comments do on here because they are from people like yourself who don’t understand that the US carrier is just a copy of the British carrier and made a larger target with a very dangerous power system that needs a massive crew that will cost lives during warfare

[@trigger1471]

I belive this is my 1st ever comment here,been watching your battles for years,love your carrier group battles,& being a Brit(Welsh) your sense of humour along with your group.if you go on a diff platform,crack on,im sure we will follow.

[@willwozniak2826]

Well it was a pleasure watching you boys do this when you had the air time..I know nothing about the services you are moving too...THAT SUCKS and I dont have money to join.....Farewell Reapers..😣😣

[@caldosan5823]

Joined your channel on rumble. KZbin still advertise During your videos which seems cheeky and smells cheap if they aren’t paying you.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@MrNoobed]

KZbin goes in fits and starts too. All my gun people were practically perma banned last year and now they're all back and posting new content. It's good to diversify though. I'll get on rumble

[@jeffwiltshire]

The Type 45 wouldn't have a White Ensign on the stern at sea, that would only happen in Harbour or leaving port. It would be on the main mast (and if in a war situation it would be a battle ensign).

[@lohrtom]

Moving to rumble. Please let us know if and when it is safe to move back to KZbin

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@JaneCobbsHat]

Subscribed to you on rumble, will watch videos from there from now on., just dropping here to give thumbs up.

[@alcaldezuambe]

I'm sorry to hear you'll be leaving youtube. I've never used rumble but I'll check it out. See you guys there.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@dennisrowley5685]

That sucks. I just found your channel a couple months ago and watch every new video and I've caught up on most of the naval battles.

[@jackgilmore5608]

I’m so sorry cap. Keep up the great work I tune in everyday

[@bardslee]

The horizon class is used by both the French and Italian navies, and is a lighter version of the type 45.

[@wicked-w7l]

that "OHHH FUCK!" at 37:35 just had me rolling on the floor

[@Kaelland]

Cap: *very excitedly* -- Drop, kill him! He's shooting down all the anti-ship missiles! Drop: *calm AF* -- Roger. 2 seconds later: *meteor that had already been launched smites Fly*

[@tituslaronius]

Drop calmly calling "splash Fly" made me so happy

[@LT_Cobra270]

Dude, love the content and that is very sad news, but I'll go and follow you on rumble.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@vaessili]

The French carrier group isn't accurate. The carrier should have been escorted by the two Horizon class frigates and the two FREMM DA the French Navy have. The Horizon class carry the same PAAMS system the T45 have and the FREMM DA have a better radar suit than the FREMM used in the simulation. FREMM have a pretty good ECM suit and decoys to lure the NSM or any ASM. The NSM have also the same range as the Exocet MM40 block 3C reported to be over 200km, yet the French ships didn't shot at the British ships which is odd. Good stuff anyway :)

[@frenchroast1355]

So I've noticed in most of your scenarios that attacks are a linear strung out affair where in real life a force would form up after launch and travel in formation. Is this a limitation of the program?

[@juliusfucik4011]

It can be done, but is a pain to set up

[@grimreapers]

What Julius said ^^ it can be scripted but will take too many hours to script and test to make it worth while.

[@mcnudde]

Sad to hear it - other content creators are also getting clobbered.

[@Mjones8383]

This isn't realistic at all, the French planes were going the wrong direction

[@robandcheryls]

Thanks!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks guys :)

[@DripsDrop]

♥️

[@chetnash5991]

Best of luck on Rumble! I’ve already subscribed, along with Louder with Crowder. F-KZbin

[@mitsos76]

Totaly unrealistic, the French just sat and die

[@arnaudsurribas2963]

Yeah, lot of things are wrong. No aster 30 that can shoot planes/intercept far away just Aster 15 which is only close range protection, no horizon frigates with its radar that can detect f35, no hawkeye launched by the cdg, which would have lightened everything flying, (the queen elizabeth can't launch hawkeyes), an overestimation of the f35 over the rafale, even in an environment where its stealth is pretty much non existant, the superior reach of the rafale thanks to the catobar system, allowing other tactical options, and harpoons missiles instead of the last exocet increment which have a larger reach... And of course the french being sitting duck.

[@kuboisthebestdooboday4028]

Grim reapers doesn’t have most of that stuff modeld but due to nvm low radar cross section the radars didn’t detect it until it was in aster 15 range

[@avi8aviate]

Could an R-77T be added? It's the IR-guided variant of the R-77, and I suspect it would make for a good anti-stealth missile.

[@Jordanpgates1]

Great episode! When Cap is in God mode, the video is so much better!

[@jakesully2868]

Been on Rumble forever, welcome to the freedom!

[@memelephant]

I can't pay for services like patreon and rumble and the other one, so I will miss your vids. I have spent many hours watching these

[@bigarmydave]

In reality, the Brits F35's would would absolutely neutlise anything the french air arm/strike group could field/defend against.

[@ecbst6]

THINGS!!! Very exciting show and I'm only at 30 minutes now lol

[@wing86tatum]

I travel for a living and your Channel is literally what keeps me entertained while on the road (Well that and beer). I’ll see you on rumble. Hopefully you can migrate the tutorials over. I had my laptop stolen so I’m looking forward to setting my new rig up and I need the steady guidance from Cap himself to help me.

[@zexypupil]

Good work on keeping going, you know your videos are genuinely appreciated. Have you considered uploading to floatplane too?

[@grimreapers]

Never heard of it. So many platforms...

[@bzipoli]

is the algorythm relieved? bc you got recommended to me last week and recent there's been a lot of changes regarding "war" content i guess and "war gaming". seems to be able to differentiate idk. also war history seems to be ok also: yes, the air launched exocet never got it's motors/airframe updated. the surface launched can do about 200km+ now, sub launched also never got updated (but it's kinda on par). it's the AM it's CHEAP and can be launched from other platforms, however it's so outdated to be launched from rafales. thing is, typhoon has none and f35 has none what the actual f why are people forgetting about antiship. it's crazy when you think you can put an rbs15 on a gripen with 200km+ or 300+ (with the new variant) or a ice/sea breaker with 290km on a super tucano or similar. makes no sense to me. and by the way you can actually confirm this data on the exocets just going to the MDBA website

[@londonleedsfan]

Just joined you guys on Rumble

[@grimreapers]

Thanks, will be a few months before Rumble/Odysee channels are fully up and running.

[@garbagemanstacking]

I don't know what was wrong with Rumble I tried to follow and hit the rumble button on the six videos that are posted and it would not let me

[@grimreapers]

hmm strange....

[@grimreapers]

OK looks like some countries have banned Rumble, I know France is only. Mainly Europe countries.

[@michael__ni]

The main reason iam still on youtube as a person watching things, is simply that many channels are nowhere else.

[@michaelwheatley8394]

A thought on deconfliction & realism. Imagine two sides with identical frigates, each with 8 x AShM and 32 AMM, set up to fire 2 missiles at each inbound threat. 1 v 1, 16 AAMs shoot down 8 AShMs. Each frigate has half their AAM magazine left. 2 v 2, with no deconfliction, *each* frigate fires 2 missiles at each AShM, 4 AAMs per AShM, so 64 AAMs shoot down 16 AShMs. Each frigate is out of AAMs. 3 v 3, of course, 2+2+2 = 6 AAMs at each of the AShMs, a total of 24 AShMs, which would require 144 AAMs, but they only have 92 AAMs, so the AShMs get through. I.e. in any big battle, there would need to be effective deconfliction in order to avoid the ships getting run out of missiles very easilly. No idea how you could solve that... And no idea what real world deconfliction models are in use, by different platforms.

[@akisakis665]

Do you know if it will be a fdi frigate model in the future? Great video as always!!