Tank Wars: Which Is The World's Most Powerful Main Battle Tank? (Part 2 of 2) | DCS

[@zylaaeria2627]

This blend of entertainment & information is when this content is at its best. Always enjoy these.

[@Para-Phrase]

Infotainment 😁👍

[@stevenmiller184]

What a treat to have George's real world input!

[@jdickson1234]

Totally agree.

[@ecbst6]

Absolutely.

[@SGTJackMorgan]

George talking about the thunder runs brought me back. We used to see M1s just barreling down the roads in Iraq just spoiling for a fight. My unit loved it because it meant less attention would be paid to us, and the tanks often cleared out some of the smaller but still nasty IEDs that would have destroyed our trucks or dismounts.

[@cesarespinozaspain]

I remember using the rear deck of Marines M1A1's to warm up our MRE's and using it as a makeshift clothes dryer after handwashing our BDU's those tanks were full service!

[@grav4315]

Thank you Cap for putting this togeather, was both entertaing and educational. And huge thank you to George for coming on and sharring his knowledge everyone. Learned alot from these two videos!

[@92HazelMocha]

A good chunk of the stuff George is saying is not correct.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, it wasn't perfect but at least it was some decent entertainment.

[@5Andysalive]

@@grimreapers it was also top of the head for a DCS video, not prepared and researched for a documentary.

[@Para-Phrase]

Our Leopard 2 is really good for a tank without Depleted uranium armor and ammo.

[@jdickson1234]

Agreed, and lighter.

[@jdickson1234]

If you need to get them somewhere quick it's an advantage.

[@RogueBrit]

Turks have had a terrible time with theirs in Syria

[@thorH.]

@@RogueBrit That was the A4 Variant from the 80s I believe. Also, they used them as incompetently as you probably could exposing them without infantry support against anti-tank weapons. And we do not know how many hits they took before exploding. Actually, we have only seen anti-western propaganda images.

[@LFGerm]

@@RogueBrit yeah because they used tanks like the Russians do - send them into urban combat without infantry support and underestimating the enemy. No armour and firepower makes up for stupidity 😑 for example kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKGzoXaNer-didE&ab_channel=MilitaryTV

[@jdickson1234]

Fascinating commentary George.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Nicely done Cap :) Thanks George

[@IRONIC1688]

About RWR for tanks, contemporary tanks can not only detect incoming threats but have multilayered active protection for deferent types and velocities to if threat. Some can even sense a signal for IEDs or belly charges and disrupt it. No specifics... It's all a question of cost and the more expensive the system on board the more expensive the protective measures protecting it.

[@maxplanck9055]

Acoustic shot detection is designed to locate a sniper with an anti material rifle, its fully designed and ready for use✌️♥️🇬🇧

[@nicolivoldkif9096]

One thing I think George misunderstood the question on the turret taking a hit in urban terrain. The answer is yes, the crew needs to pay attention as hitting a barrel or turret on a building or tree can do all sorts of bad things from jamming the turret to bending the barrel. This isn't as real issue if your stationary and rotating the turret. But if your moving and the turret hits something your going to get a dressing down to say the least.

[@grimreapers]

Yes I can imagine the energies involved in this kind of contact are MASSIVE.

[@nicolivoldkif9096]

@Grim Reapers yeah, saw the aftermath of an Abrams sliding down a hill at Hoensfel, Germany, one of our training areas when I was with 1AD. Hit a tree, with the barrel, bent it a few degrees and required the turret to be forcibly rotated back to center to be transported to third shop to fix. Thankfully, nobody got hurt in the tank. Wasn't the tank crews fault either just bad luck. Also, in some areas slowing top speed. On softer ground the tread sinks in, and there is more resistance on the track. Doesn't stop a tank like it would a wheeled vehicles but it still slows it down some.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

The Infra-red tiles are called Chameleon and they have been tested on CV90s, unfortunately it doesn't work vs Mark 1 Eyeball. Engine has to be off to work well

[@lordsqueak]

Cv90120 and Adaptiv if I recall correctly

[@xenaguy01]

19:00 During WWI, the Americans focused very much on Strategic Mobility with their M4 Sherman, which was the largest size that the ships cranes could unload without a huge port.

[@Tuck-Shop]

*WW2. A simple typo

[@xenaguy01]

@@Tuck-Shop Thx. Supposed to be WWII.

[@Anarchy_420]

Great work! Would love to see more Tournaments, Certain Plane Tournaments would be cool af to see!👍

[@rnash999]

We used to have to dodge RF-4Cs getting to and from our office on the flight line and I can still smell their exhaust. Never had any oil coating though. Nothing like being a short distance behind a taxiing jet.

[@Tuck-Shop]

Tanks for the videos. I have no regrets.

[@joetrapp9187]

9:30 Years ago, the Federal government sent out a demolition contract for a few dozen homes near me to clear the way for a huge hub post office. The winning low bid was a contractor who bought a war surplus tank. It all went very well, until that one odd ball home in the neighborhood, the one with a basement!

[@narvalin5905]

When George was talking about going through water, I flashed back to a conversation had with former tanker, who (under protest) followed his Lieutenant's orders to drive across a frozen pond at Fort Riley, KS. He said last he heard, the tank was still sitting at the bottom of that pond.

[@allisterburdett7341]

For anyone interested in tank sims can recommend Gunner Heat PC. Still in development but another level in immersion and realism.

[@jdickson1234]

Love tank sims but not exactly bleeding edge computer here.

[@Evocati-Augusti]

During 73 Eastling there was a stand off with a platoon of T-72s and 2 Bradley Fighting vehicles, Eagle group and Ghost group had lost comms, so they sent out 2 Bradley fighting vehicles from Ghost to link them back up, when they saw little dots ahead and thought it was Eagle Group, a T-72 backed out of its underground position and they knew they were fcked,then somebody calls "tank front" and there's a tank 4 feet away below them in its underground fighting position, its 25 mm bullets bounced off the T-72 and they backing out for there life and now all the tanks are moving, turrets start turning towards them, The first Tow missile takes out that tank, the second Tow fires but lands 15 feet in front of the Bradley fighting vehicle, then just by luck the second Bradley takes out 2 of the foward tanks, now there both empty ,which ment somebody had to leave the vehicle to reload the Tows, his wing man pulls a reload drill backs up ,pulls foward and takes out the tank that just got its turret on the other Bradley, when Bradelys from the Eagle show up and they re link up with Eagle...they survived a stand off with a platoon of T-72s.

[@max2008abhi]

Very poor Iraqi training and combat doctrine

[@Evocati-Augusti]

@@johncee853 oh my 13 million? show me it in a comment once?

[@timblack6422]

Extremely interesting! Thank you all!

[@deadmeat8754]

Part 2 was fun to watch. The Bots going brain-dead after reaching the objective is just a sad reality of DCS scripting. additionally, watching the Bots consistently exposing their flanks to enemy fire was disconcerting.

[@commandercaty7117]

Great video!

[@chrisstopher2277]

In Afghanistan the MRAPs had a warning system called the boomerang where it detected shots fired but it was not great at its job. Im guessing it takes alot of maintenence and we werent told at all about it. It would go off out of nowhere and freak you out. I googled it and its mainly for sniper fire so maybe i was being shot at by snipers. Kidding about the sniper thing.

[@terencexd8477]

quick question: why not US - Abrams Vs Çhina - Type 99 (that would be a fairer match) both main battle tank clash

[@stefano9493]

Or Type 99A and M1A2 Abrams

[@aa1944-k2r]

yea there is some kind of agenda going on here, they put the T84 Oplot for Ukraine which barely got produced in real life while not giving the T90M and Type99A for Russia and China where both of these tanks are being mass produced. T90M entered mass production in recent year while Type99A started mass production nearly a decade ago.

[@hurbrowns5397]

Type 96B is not even used by Chinese army. It was just used for tank biathlon.

[@toma3025]

​@@aa1944-k2r Yeah and the fact that multiple times the AI result contradicted the player result - such as in the case of the T90 vs T84 and Merkava vs Challenger II. In both those instances, I expected the former to beat the latter quite handidly, which they did - when humans weren't in the loop.

[@yaraelpoof7242]

@@aa1944-k2r yeah Ukraine actually only has one t-84ms the rest are in other countries and aslo production has stopped

[@FelixstoweFoamForge]

Great video. Lovely work. don't know it you GR fellows have seen this, but LazerPig has a few videos up on why "Hard Factors", like armour, gun, speed etc, can be undone by the "Soft Factors", like reliability, brittle armour fuel consumption, quality control and crew training? Not sure I agree 100% with what he says, but he's right when he points out that 2000 T34 were lost by the soviets in 1941, half of them to Pz III, which on paper couldn't touch them.

[@Wolfe351]

here in Oz our 59 M1A1s are now being replaced/ augmented by another 75 M1A2s (with to quote wiki a "unique armor package" neither our m1a1s or a2s have depleted Uranium)plus 29 M1150 assault breecher vehicles and 18 M1074 joint assault bridge vehicles all using the M1 chassis I think...EDIT our current M1A1s only weigh 62 tons according to the army info page, compared to 73.6 for V3 M1A2

[@Corran51]

The Challengers got knocked out very quickly considering they are the most heavily and advanced armoured. Or does Abrams have Dorchester armour now?

[@aggravated_assault]

Because dorchester prob is not as good as you think

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video @Grim Reapers! Can't wait for the next video man! The thing with the Sabot Rounds is that they're made from depleted Uranium 236 or 238. Once they break through a Solid object, they shatter and turn anything that the Fragments come into contact with into a Litteral Puddle of Liquid. It's the one thing that was used when Hussein didn't tell the Iraqi Citizens to stay off the roads and his troops were Attacking the Abrams Tanks with Vans and Trucks basically using their own Citizens as Human Shields, the Abrams crews were using the Sabot Rounds to deal with their Attackers and the Vans and Trucks could just be Cleaned out, Repaired and sold off; just literally hose out the Occupants. As for Laser Rangefinders, from what I remember reading up on the M48 Patton Tanks from Vietnam, the A2 and A3 Models had a Laser Rangefinder and Infrared Equipment. Not sure why not many people still use them today, maybe it has something to do with gun design for the Tanks. If you want another tank that can fire an ATGM from the Barrel of it's main gun, the American M551 Sheridan Airborne Assault Tank/Reconnaissance Tank from the Vietnam War could fire the MGM-151 Shilagagh Missile through it's 152 millimeter (6 inch Naval) Gun. The Main Downside of the Design was not only how the Gun was Loaded (Caseless Ammunition where the Rounds were Sown onto the Propellant Charges with a Mechanical Breach that had a roughly 30 second Reload time) but the Fact that it was an Aluminum/Titanium Alloy Hull (like the M113 APC's) with a Steel Turret on top of it. Interestingly Enough, the Thunder Runs started in Vietnam with the M48 Patton Tanks using Spare track Links along the side as a Fast Way of clearing the Highways for mines. If there wasn't an Explosion, the Road was clear and the Supply Convoy could get moving. If a Mine Did Explode, However, The Engineers would come in and Look for any more but because the Explosion happened to the Side of the Tank, only the Spare Track links were Blown and the Tank could still be used. Last but not least, The T-90 Tank. The Closet thing to an RWR on any tank is the Infrared Detectors that are commonly referred to as the Eyes of the Tank. It's got a Field of View of 35 Degrees to each side of the Barrel (Hence why there's 1 on each side) but once it Detects a ATGM has been locked onto or fired at it, the System will automatically turn the Turret to face where the Missile was Fired from and have the ERA face the Missile. I've got a Mission for the "Stormworks: Build and Rescue" Community using the "Search and Destroy DLC" (aka the Weapons DLC) that I'd love to see you guys try and do in DCS to get a General Feeling of What the Chances of Success is. Let me know what you think about it and if you're interested in hearing more about the Mission for the Stormworks Community and I'll catch you in your next video!

[@Tenchigumi]

That is a horrifying image you painted regarding the effect of penetrated Sabot rounds on humans. I would not want my obituary to end with "was hosed out of a van in mostly liquid form."

[@timblack6422]

We had a system just after 08 for slicing the “pie” for where a shot came from… it consisted of 4 mics arranged outside the vehicle.. it let you know a general direction a shot came from… I don’t recall the name of the system

[@sweatybotfn9982]

Of corse bro, ZTZ-96 was introduced in the 80’s do ZTZ-99A2 vs M1A2 SEP for a fair fight

[@Stinger522]

Both parts of this tank fest were great. If you decide to revisit tanks in the future, you should bring in the K2 Black Panther from South Korea and the Type 10 from Japan.

[@stevenlarratt3638]

30 plus tons on a high torque chain needs oil or grease, but that collects crap and increases friction so its a vicious circle... even on roads the friction is crazy.

[@yianniskanellopoulos6719]

Very good science video. Maybe a combined arms with MBT, IFVs and APCs is in needed now, no?

[@grimreapers]

Nice.

[@derbigpr500]

sCieNcE

[@hansfossholt1016]

It is T-14 not T-15. And yes there are systems that detect where the bullets/round is coming from, uses mic on a pole/ antenna/ stand. And there are laser detector systems with countermeasures for incoming rounds

[@graemepennell]

Not to be a dick here, but @8.10 the guys talking about the us not using laser range... It's been active on them since it's inception (of the Abrams) has it not, at least on the original M1Abrams tank game at least. And THAT was meant to be as near a copy of what they used in the tank training systems. And that game is like 20 yrs old.

[@nerocaesar9249]

I think there may be a bit of miscommunication (even by me here), but I think they said they dont all have laser ranging detectors to know if you are getting painted.

[@Evocati-Augusti]

Somebody brought it up and it counts a lot but cant be used in a game format , and that is maintenance. What shape are the vehicles are you putting on the field? before and after a deployment, which should also be introduced to the soldiers as well.

[@mathieubronsema8664]

When the barrel goes up that means they are reloading some tanks have to do that so that the breach isn’t in the way of the crew and that makes it either hard or impossible to reload

[@never2late_mtb349]

There's a story, no idea if it's urban myth or not, that a British tank crew during WWII has a tank, I think it was a Comet, that was for some reason much faster than the others in the troop. After a contact they discovered 20mm rounds stuck in the armour. Apparently the tank had been a training tank and was constructed of mild steel, hence why it was so fast. The story goes that the crew kept the tank as it was so fast that the Germans struggled to hit it. I spent a couple of years in an armoured brigade in Germany in the 80's. I was in APCs. On a move we'd put tins of potatoes on the engine louvres. By the time we'd get to our next location the potatoes had cooked.

[@sbirish25]

Great 2 videos!

[@theram8787]

Awsome video!

[@Alteram]

I wonder how these fights would have gone if the sides flipped, like best of 3 or whatever flipping sides, do the sides matter, etc.

[@manjisaipoe517]

So with the current world situations, I identify as a Challenger gun barrel most of the time! Great fun everyone, thanks for your time and the entertainment. Peace.

[@grimreapers]

I identify as a Abrams air filter.

[@feliscorax]

@@grimreapers “It is I - Leclerc!”

[@jdickson1234]

Would love to see a sim with Bradley's etc and other countries equilavent against tanks?

[@jackwells2924]

It would be cool if you could model the trophy defense system on the new abrams and the merkava

[@drrocketman7794]

The PL-01 was a concept tank that it is unknown what happened to it. It might have been real, it might have been just plywood, it's unknown.

[@jdickson1234]

Yay! Cortana, well done anyway.

[@elinelson8257]

Hey Cap i would love to see a west coast assault but on the Puget Sound

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@MTBScotland]

new UK tank will have the Israeli laser warning system. They are researching hybrid tanks so they can use their weapons and systems with the engine off.

[@n1co2017]

nice vid very entertaining. just wanted to say none of the 120mm guns have ATGM's only the 125mm guns 13:05 that was also applied onto a cv90 (Swedish IFV)

[@92HazelMocha]

Not strictly true, the Israeli 120mm can fire LAHAT ATGMs (to my knowledge its the only 120mm that can fire ATGMs)

[@n1co2017]

@@92HazelMocha interesting i didn't know that.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@jdickson1234]

This makes me glad I joined the Navy! Get cooked in one of those? damm. Then again drowning in a ship or sub might be a slower death.

[@sbcfggsh3506]

Z（zhuang jia装甲）T（tan ke坦克）Z（zhu zhan主战）ZTZ≈MBT

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@starbet]

I can't help but believe that in the real world the modern formations would have air intel. Drones?

[@92HazelMocha]

So kind of, in the US we use systems like BFT and later FBCB2 which gives real time intel on the battlespace, although that's primarily for ground forces although the Ah64 is also on that network. No idea which drones can tie into it; never seen a reaper, predator or global hawk on the network and manned fixed wing aircraft (to my knowledge) are not capable. TLDR; a real battlespace would have networked intelligence for ground forces but I don't know of any drones that currently contribute to those networks.

[@starbet]

@@92HazelMocha Thank you!

[@philmarks4254]

The Abrams uses an L/44 gun, Leopard-2A6M uses an L/55 gun with higher velocity. Giving the US an advantage there is complete coddling of american egos, and only coddling of american egos.

[@lobster8009]

The Leos gun with standard NATO rounds does not archive higher velocity. The Abrams uses special high pressure rounds to archive the same velocity from a shorter gun.

[@robertm.3520]

​@@lobster8009 Thank you bringing facts to shut down that butthurt clown.

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

Depleted uranium????????

[@aggravated_assault]

​@@lobster8009there are no standard rounds Germany is using DM63 Us is using M829A3 DM63 has a higher muzzle velocity M829A3 a little higher pen due too DU, if even

[@aggravated_assault]

​@@BaseSerpentMessmerDU has the same density as Tungsten

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

1) The reason why Brits stick to rifled guns on their tanks is simple - they just love their HESH (high explosive squash head) rounds which can not be fired effectively from smooth bore guns. HESH doesn't penetrate armor, but sends massive shock wave that breaks off chunks of tank's own armor (create a lot of spalling) that then fly all over the internal part of the tank, hitting crew and equipment inside. Pretty effective and doesn't lose "penetration" over distance, but... Sideskirts and cage armor will mitigate HESH completely. Also, effectiveness depends a lot on place you hit; for maximum effect you want a flat surface. On top of it all, composite armor and spall liners defeat it, too... So, that is why pretty much everybody else gave up on HESH for anti-tank role and use it to demolish concrete fortifications. But Brits still stick to it... 2) Another problem with IR tiles is - mud and dirt, besides what you mentioned. Yes, they can make a tank look like smth else on thermal, but if mud and other filth are stuck to tank side (which is very likely on a battlefield), then the guy looking at you through thermal will see smth weird and suspicious about the "car" and its contrast with the background and might decide to fire at it anyway, just to make sure, or switch to clear channel and see it is in fact a tank... So, in the end, that system (which also Swedes played with) is just an expensive technology demonstrator...

[@aggravated_assault]

Most modern tanks have kevlar spall liners

[@hansfossholt1016]

CV90 you can get with termo camo

[@gotindrachenhart]

Cap, just for reference, a hollow point bullet will overpenetrate. It simply depends on velocity vs target thickness but even handgun rounds can do it with HP ammo. Modern HP ammo IS better at energy dump but even 9mm can still zip through. The .45ACP will tend to do this due to typically lower velocity but modern versions do better here as well. Ideally, yes it stops in the target though but ya know, physics is fickle :D

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@jdickson1234]

So I'm guessing the Abrams wins? It certainly has disadvantages. Very heavy, can't scramble them somewhere.

[@waderedsox]

dont the germans not use depleated uranium ammo? could that be the difference in the range?

[@nicolivoldkif9096]

That was my thought, probably not as extreme as a km though.

[@92HazelMocha]

Kind of not really though; the Leo has a much longer gun than the M1, but the M1 compensates by using higher pressure rounds with DU penetrators instead of tungsten. The difference in performance between the German L55 and the US L44 is actually pretty minimal.

[@aggravated_assault]

No

[@aggravated_assault]

​@@92HazelMochaM829 has no higher pressure than DM63

[@strambino1]

American 120mm do use advanced depleted uranium rounds that the Germans do not use. I think the pressure of those rounds may negatively affect the long barrel of the German L55 120mm.

[@aggravated_assault]

The abrams use the same gun like leopard as its a licends Rheinmetall gun The L55 is longer to have higher pressure and therefore a higher muzzle velocity Germany isnt using DU as its dangerous for ur personell aswell as civilians, Tungsten is almost as good as DU and DM63 will pen almost any tank in a front shot

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

Tank v.s. plane dogfight for the lols, or SPAA

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

Kinda like your old gepard v.s. A-10

[@grimreapers]

Cool

[@thesandwichfreak3780]

All of the most important questions during this video were asked and answered. However, no one talked about the elephant in the room. What happens when solider have to relieve themselves, for a No.# 1 or 2?

[@tankman7550]

The model desegination for british armour starts FV e.g The FV4034 Challenger 2 the names of the family don't always start with a C the matilda is a good example of this ;)

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Comes from the Cruiser tank line which the MBTs have taken over from.

[@starexcelsior]

The ATGMs that Russia and China shoot out of their tanks are not top attack but they are tandem warheads meaning they can defeat most late cold war ERA (Russia does have some variable timed HE but that is for infantry and cant really hurt tanks)

[@yiyangqin4527]

There is a few odd thing relate to this video though The video seems avoid use ZTZ-99a T-84 Oplot is never really mass produced within Ukraine but I have no issue for you put in here, since it is supposed to be a relative powerful mbt used on each side for competition. But China never really use much ztz96b, the one you referring have many are ztz96a. and that does not mean ztz99a is small number, it have over 1200 units type 99 within PLA army by 2020. And ZTZ99A literally becomes the core of PLA heavy armor battalion, just like m1a2 abrams or leopard 2a6m. U literally put a 2nd generation tank here against all other 3rd generation. its quite normal why someone raise eyebrow here tbh

[@tea1255]

视频作者留言：From Grim: “We have the 99 in game BUT it is modelled with a active defence system, unlike the others, so they are effectively invincible in game, so couldn;t use them.”

[@tea1255]

这么看其实96b表现也中规中矩了

[@yiyangqin4527]

@@tea1255 我看到了，但是99a的aps系统只能挡炮射导弹，不知道面对北约坦克打来的APFSDS能有什么影响 除非硬要说面对对面俄乌坦克射来的炮射导弹，可以理解，但是99a的很多防御系统也是对应现实中存在的，总不能说因为太OP了就给拿下把，换96太没悬念了，96b算改进型但按照西方标准连三代完整都算不上，这比的就很没意思了，我那个豹2a4来大家也会觉得怪怪的

[@jdickson1234]

Grust and grime in tracks. Friction

[@trevorrussell487]

They don't call her Strike Eagle for nothing.

[@awan317]

Why did you use in the ZTZ96B instead of the ZTZ99A2? You covered it a few days ago and It would have been more interesting.

[@grimreapers]

We have the 99 in game BUT it is modelled with a active defence system, unlike the others, so they are effectively invincible in game, so couldn;t use them.

[@dsong2006]

@@grimreapers that is accurate though, the type 99A does have active defense system in real life. You should not set it up so western tanks always win. Run a simulation with M1A2 with trophy active defense system vs. Chinese Type 99A with their active defense system to make it fair.

[@yiyangqin4527]

@@grimreapers the ztz99a have active defense system in real life, did you literally saying because it is too powerful we avoid it?

[@mm3mm3]

Please bring back Bypass and his “What If” games!

[@grimreapers]

Yup got more coming.

[@cannon3267]

you missed the Korean K2. don't know much, but have heard it's an awsome tank. but probably not modled in game

[@grimreapers]

Agree but not in game yet.

[@plushiie_]

seemed like the AI starting on the left side arrived at bulls first, then was stationary when the right side arrived.

[@thegr8spadel225]

Question since I dont play DCS, but doesnt the Abrams have a trophy system? Or is this just barebones packages only.

[@Mgaming61]

Not all of them.

[@grimreapers]

Barebones as far as I'm aware.

[@mathieubronsema8664]

Pls if you don’t mind could you make a more detailed tanks battle with some tactics to love your video’s wish I had DCS and I wish there were more tank mods for DCs

[@cookiii]

Looks like the C2 tank aim was broken

[@robray111]

Great fun, but I wonder why Abrams was given such a range advantage? Leo and Abrams have the exact same gun: Rheinmetall 120 mm L44. Is it a game-changing round that only the US have?

[@derbigpr500]

The sim is badly made, these are all mods and have individually programmed properties. None of it is accurate.

[@Chad2Dad]

Abrams, Abrahams, tomato, tomahto.

[@Musix4me-Clarinet]

I wonder if CH can model and program an accurate K2 Black Panther??! *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_Black_Panther* Very interesting tank!

[@digofthedump]

tank wars on the atari much better)) gl

[@andrewsmall6834]

I need to get up for work in 5hrs, but I can't say no to Cap.

[@grimreapers]

Correct attitude to life!

[@jdickson1234]

Yeah lol.

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

Indeed

[@siubhan2047]

Well the fact that the Abrams is given longer range for some reason makes me wonder how fair it really is. Moreover i noticed attackers from the left had to crest a hill near the middle whilst attackers from the riggt were stationary. Not sure if that would have any effect. Apologies, I am clueless for the most part.

[@kermittoad]

Don't know the extra range gives it an advantage in this instance because they already started the battle within gun range for every tank.

[@jdickson1234]

True.

[@siubhan2047]

@@jdickson1234 ah thanks. I did not know that.

[@satcom6]

Abrams! Absolutely formidable MBT. That being said, it is definitely defeatable and has some Major drawbacks, (and hopefully my home country will one day stop squabbling over subversive differences and avoid latent efforts to advance/evolve a key ground asset/component in U.S. doctrine/strategy).

[@derbigpr500]

Yes, surely formidable against 50 year old outdate tankes while supported by airforce as well.

[@satcom6]

@derbigpr500 true. But thats true for just about everything in the military. Tanks, infantry, artillery, air cover, they have to work in tandem. Even aircraft carriers with all their capabilities don't go anywhere alone lol.

[@carlosgarcia9497]

Shame the new Abrams X couldn't be in. Even more so for the sexy ass SK Panther.

[@keiichi960]

Next time give each group a budget where we see if the French tank is that much better.

[@bearcatracing007]

Super Cap can drive my tank

[@grimreapers]

erm

[@daleowen2606]

NATO tanks are best tanks IMO. That new South Korean one would be interesting to see in a battle like this if it's even modeled in the game

[@716g9]

Love my Abrams, but 🇩🇪 Germans. Man they know their engineering when it comes to tanks. Abrams are OP because the Gulf war. Absolutely crushed the Iraqi Army. So love the Abrams.

[@derbigpr500]

So you think Abrams are good becuase they beat a bunch of 50 year old outdated tanks while also having air support? Abrams would get whooped by any tank on this list in real life. They've never seen real combat against remotely modern tanks.

[@-qsprey7881]

So you just want to make a no-brainer American sweep and pick 96b? If this is the case, you should choose type59, which is not only worse, but also exported to many poor countries, and it often appears in the melee of warlords in the Middle East, so it is relatively well-known.

[@Pantsir-S1M]

Can you do "Russia RF Admiral Gorshkov Ship?"

[@gilwillette4543]

Does George play WoT?

[@majorix1]

George says the Abrams should have the same Range as the Leopard, but he is wrong there: Abrams and Leopard 2 up to A5 have the same Rheinmetall 120mm L/44, but from Leopard 2A6 upward like the ones here, they have the longer 120mm L/55 Gun, which gives them a higher Muzzle-Speed and thereby more Range and Precision.

[@lobster8009]

The Americans use higher pressure rounds and archive the same V0 as the Leopard with its longer cannon. And the Leopard isnt any more accurate than the Abrams gun.

[@majorix1]

@@lobster8009 That is incorrect. That was the case for Leopard up to A5. But with newer models for APFSDS Germany uses DM63 which has (fired in L/55) a V0 of 1750 m/s , while Abrams L/44 with M829A3 has a V0 of 1555 m/s. I don't have a V0 for M829A4, but afaik its combustive part should be similar to A3, so V0 should be around the same.

[@derbigpr500]

@@lobster8009 Then how come Abrams got systematically humiliated by the Leopards in every tank competition in real life? Those are mostly about speed, accuracy, etc. Not armor or defense.

[@jdickson1234]

Lol. That was fun :)

[@jakerobson6623]

Made the challenger underrated I this video

[@leeowen4989]

1:08 No he's not using high explosive..... he's using viagra...

[@ryanerickson8138]

Poor Kortana!

[@mikemarotenetgr]

Greedings from Greece. I have a asuggestion. How about making a video from the Battle of Crete? Using todays war machines against almost a thousand german airplanes during the invasion that May of 1941. Do you think its possible?

[@rmp5s]

All the donations. All of them. 😆

[@grimreapers]

Donations are important.

[@rmp5s]

@@grimreapers Of course!

[@SPYDER990]

leopard tank is a good tank, however from most reports most of them are not even battle ready and there aren't many to begin with. germany has a seriously lacking defence budget.

[@5Andysalive]

Funny that the Abrams in game shoots 1km further when they use literally the same gun as the Leopard 2.

[@nicolivoldkif9096]

Only thought would be tungsten versus DU as I don't think Germany uses DU.

[@92HazelMocha]

They don't use the same gun, the Leopard 2 uses a newer and much longer L55

[@derbigpr500]

Badly done mods, none of this is accurate.

[@aggravated_assault]

​@@nicolivoldkif9096why should DU effect range?

[@thedark3305]

So bias Chinese military uses 99A as their main mbt

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

Bro he already explained it, look through the comments

[@thedark3305]

@@BaseSerpentMessmer yeah I saw it and replied him

[@yiyangqin4527]

@@BaseSerpentMessmer he replied to one of our comment said because it have active defense system so it is overpowerful and invincible sad truth is, ztz99a have APS irl, which idk why this will be an issue

[@lawyerup1time785]

The Abrams SEP V3 had trophy aps same as the merkava