A Trans Guy And A Femme Guy Swap Profiles On Grindr | What The Flip Season 2 Ep 5

[@bloorigardqkazoo]

I consider myself a masculine guy and I’m attracted to masculinity. I also am attracted to transmen cause like I said, I’m attracted to masculinity. I don’t see a problem with being attracted to whatever turns you on. The problem comes in when you start disrespecting and putting down anyone who doesn’t fit what you’re into. I’m respectful of everyone, but if I’m not into, I’m just not into you. It’s as simple as that.

[@arson9662]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@s2sHoXXs2]

there we go!

[@dacesar1]

I’m not fem but not masc either but I am attracted to trans men I think some are hot.

[@misoweli]

i’m a pair of legs with a head

[@xrmoff]

as it should be, love to objectify each other

[@kingbee2537]

Oh my god thank you for including trans men! I’ve been waiting for you to do this!

[@DirkAustin]

Yep. Finally some trans men representation!

[@todoesbosta]

Yaaaay me too. I was waiting for it

[@amhk5918]

The bullahit-o-metre was hilarious!

[@faviolaura9403]

lMAO YEAH

[@asmrcity3147]

Why did the second guys bs-ometer go up? Seems like he was very honest. Even with it not being the desired answer on this channel

[@Social_Pugatory]

ASMR CITY Because his exclusive attraction to “TALL STRAIGHT GUYS” or straight presenting guys is a form of self-hate he’s yet to explore. Which makes his answer though GENUINE inadvertently bullshit on principle. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@xrmoff]

@@Social_Pugatory no what? that makes no sense, he just likes masculine men; most people have types

[@xrmoff]

@@Social_Pugatory for example, my type would be 11:28

[@Kazodyl]

Arisce is such a good host!! love her

[@MelancholyMegan]

she is bae

[@YaFavoriteSagittarius]

I personally feel like people should date who they want to. If you're not attracted to a femme Person, trans person or person of a certain race then you don't have to be. Just don't be disrespectful and out of line when approached by someone or approach them with a "try you out" attitude. Just be real. If you wouldn't date someone who is trans be honest about it. Don't dance around the question or lie saying you would

[@Gabe-z8o]

100% agree

[@smilanz]

But there is a difference in for example not being attracted to A trans person and not being attractive to trans people.

[@kittenbraden9800]

Good points from both Jeffrey and Emilia here. I appreciate y'all's contributions

[@MrLittleFerfi]

“Seeking masculinity is a feminine trait” YES I am living for this!

[@astrius4125]

That's what a bitter femme says.

[@IllIlll]

Which is also a very heteronormative statement

[@MrLittleFerfi]

@Astrius sounds like a bitter masc4masc

[@astrius4125]

@@MrLittleFerfi I've never been that guy. I've dated masc, fem and everything in between. And I don't like people treating others badly for not being "masc" enough. But I also hate it when bitter fems disrespect others because of their masculinity. At the end of the day it seems like everyone wants to be above everyone else. This war is bullshit.

[@Will-cb4wb]

i fucking love the host so much its insane

[@sugaspice7684]

I fucking love this show/ channel, it's insane!

[@rydbthatsme]

The pansexual guy is my favorite commentator😍This needs to be an actual tv show👏🏼

[@FelixMiguel]

Omg agreed I rewinded and paused on him

[@joepsalden8273]

Saaaaaame he is so fineee

[@FFKING1140]

I'm both masc and femme, it really depends on my mood. I haven't dated a trans person, but I'm not opposed, if he's hot, he's hot.

[@KaiDecadence]

The word for that is "androgynous". It's a mixture of both masculinity and femininity.

[@amiia7345]

I’m in it for money.....girl same.

[@JeremyMYG]

Jace is soooooo fineeeeee. Thanks for including gender expression! This is a good topic.

[@derekwebster110]

I just want to hang out with Arise. She is so smart and hilarious! Every episode of this that I see is just fantastic, love her hosting qualities.

[@daveha4445]

Dominic is so cute and fun and hot??? Like why aren't yall dating him

[@JakobTennisMB]

And he's a really nice guy, too. Went to school with him

[@daveha4445]

@@JakobTennisMB oh. mygod. So jealous rn.

[@lit2021]

Dominic is so fake, hiding behind a facade of manerisms.. Jace is much more genuine and authentic.

[@DietDrMario]

Arisce Wanzer deserves to host the oscars idgaf, the talent? the charisma? the wit? whew

[@khall8669]

You can tell she is super smart and a talented interviewer by her responses and follow ups. I need to watch more of her videos! She brings out great conversation.

[@MrSeanJava]

I am obsessed with Arisce, she is so damn beautiful, and a talented ass talk show host!

[@MrHenry84]

Finally a new episode - I wish these episodes were longer.

[@iGREENification]

"I'm into straight...men." lmao

[@joanrobinson3520]

My favorite part: Arisce: “You’re so brave!” *trans laughs* *cis silence*

[@takeontena]

You 3 are smart, strong, hilarious, and gorgeous inside and out! Thank you for sharing your experiences and creating such great content to share ♥

[@cancermoon]

Dominic is thick and 6'1 wow the gays there are blind

[@organicgrass8310]

The femme guy was going off in the pre interview, but the trans guy was so humble about all the shit he got👀 he got real quiet after hearing some of the comments the trans guy received

[@aliasanew3398]

and he also realized that someone telling his widdle precious feelings "You're smiling too hard" is not an insult 🙄 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@kittenbraden9800]

MIL If it's supposed to be flirting, it's bad

[@aliasanew3398]

@@kittenbraden9800 what ever it was, was definitely not something to get offended about..

[@pandabolt8815]

Competetive values when talking about people's struggles are invalidating to both parties involved.

[@Uchihasasuk5]

@@aliasanew3398 he said he didn't think it was an insult. He felt it was unnecessary and judgmental. The people making those comments are probably the same people making the rude comments to the trans man.

[@enderwiggins8248]

It's hard to fight against internalized homophobia when my ex boyfriend dumped me for being too gay. It really wounded me, and it made me feel like I couldn't be loved for traits that I didn't even view as feminine.

[@siginotmylastname3969]

So sorry you dealt with his homophobia.

[@dio_hoestar_4204]

What??? You are gay, in a gay relationship and he dumped you for being too gay?? That's insane. I don't understand the hatred against feminine men. I might be biased because it's a trait I really like. Sometimes the men aren't even that feminine. Plus, we have to remember that everyone, even the most macho guys, are a combination of feminine and masculine traits.

[@wmboxtop9036]

“I love it when people try me out, I’m like a dish towel “ I LOVE ARISCE I SWEAR TO GOD

[@mikec3105]

That Kardashian comment FLOORED ME!!!! 😂😂😂

[@Stephen.Williams]

The guy in the grey flower shirt is such a cutie!!

[@tayloraverett1841]

At the end of the day, both Dominic and Jace are hotties, and have great personalities. I'd date either because they're both so cute :)

[@Lavender_Louis]

1. They 👏 should 👏 date! 2. Thank you, I've been waiting for this episode and it was great! 3. I LOVE how her shoes match the chair and her skirt!

[@sx3todd]

that guy who says he’s into “straight” men. honey if he even gets turned on by you, he ain’t straight. he’s straight-acting like the interviewer says.

[@samisbiggaytm8763]

13:33 YES. Whenever you do anything a little too feminine as a trans man, most people around you are like, "I though you were trans?????" At least, that's my experience. It sucks, because I'm not the most secure person, so it really cuts me.

[@sleuthed]

im a gay trans man and you could not pay me to touch grindr with a ten foot stick. or any online dating app. was nice to hear the positivity from the ppl interviewed on the street. jace is 100% right, trans men are perceived as a threat to cis men's masculinity. for dudes that think they're so tough, their sense of self is so fragile lol.

[@wisdomunderstanding9078]

I learned so much watching this..I mean yes I had to google and rewind and think and ponder on things but I think I got it. I didnt think that there would be so much bullying on a dating app. That blows my mind honestly

[@JeremyMYG]

Cut, print, gay. Let’s do it!

[@charlykelley4801]

that trans guy on a gay dating app feel when you never hit anyone up first because you dont know if theyre gonna be a bigot lmaooo. love how relatable this is

[@KaiDecadence]

If you're that paranoid, just browse through the "Trans" niche and be done with it. I understand it can be scary trying to message people when you're part of the fringe but if you expect people to approach yet you don't try to do the same, that's how you end up alone lol.

[@charlykelley4801]

@@KaiDecadence at what point did i complain about being alone? i get exactly what im looking for out of the apps im on, thanks but no thanks for the condescending advice i didnt ask for

[@KaiDecadence]

@@charlykelley4801 Uh, I didn't say that "you" were alone, I said that not taking chances can lead to being alone.

[@jackanthony4627]

I love this video so much but honestly, as a trans person, my heart stopped every time arisce did those “would you date a trans person?” Interviews

[@MM-dj7tn]

"I use Grindr because I am lonely" sameeeee

[@emilioxi4807]

This topic was very helpful for me I have a whole new understanding about an issue that is rarely discussed openly and I would totally be open to dating someone trans and we really need to stop judging each other our community will be stronger as a feminine by nature man I feel really pressured to be more masculine and no one should feel this way. 🙌🏾🙏🏽🦅🦋💜

[@CatMnds]

I am so IN LOVE with Arisce. She’s great.

[@trastolillo4219]

The "Seeking masculinity is in itself an effeminate quality" quote made me cringe sooo hard. Same thing with them equating being femenine to being a bottom. I get that they are being funny and sassy (and shady) but they should keep in mind that this way of thinking only further reinforces gender roles. All that been said, I loved this episode and I think the three of them are great. PS: Jade's voice is really nice and calm, it would be perfect for ASMR

[@kittydollsxo189]

Society will forever have roles, humans naturally like putting people in boxes. You can't escape from it and that's the cold truth

[@marianabarros4398]

@@kittydollsxo189 well, that's just 100% disagreeing with their main argument

[@marianabarros4398]

That's when u get to see how deep rooted these beliefs are, even when we think we're above them

[@pandabolt8815]

I kinda tilted my head at that one as well. In the context of the video I understand what they are trying to say but at the same time I agree with you. I'm a member of the BDSM and Kink Lifestyle Community, I see masculine females who are subs and feminine males who are Dom's. Gender expression and sexual expression aren't always mutual. The idea that feminine vs masculine automatically means bottom/top or passive/aggressive is also a "box" that people tend to put others in.

[@idonotresidehere.5709]

Exactly what I thought. Idk it was uncomfy for me, especially as a nonbinary trans person. It definetly pushes very gross stereotypes.

[@ELP1125]

I would date a trans man in a heartbeat. I totally agree that girls are allowed to be masculine and it be deemed acceptable, but god forbid a guy is a tad bit more feminine. Masculinity seems like the default gender energy in society.

[@uddelhexe3545]

Your interaction with your guests is so calm and great. You moderate well and your guests always give so much to us to think about. You totally should have a TV show. I always feel so happy after watching one of your vids!@

[@keithg6462]

Omg I found this channel a few weeks ago and I live for you and your guests... best ever!!!

[@chuckchai]

I love this series so much I am so sad it's over. Arisce is a breath of fresh air and she's gorgeous too

[@piotrzbyrowsky1453]

Wow I would really invite Dominic out, he is so cute inside and out. But damn as always the distance is killing this fantasy :V

[@josecarballo4046]

Let me correct myself... They're both gorgeous men!!! I'm falling in love watching these two guys

[@n.a.8050]

Arisce Wanzer's legs are sooo beautiful! 😘 I wanted to talk about her sense of humor, but I got stuck looking at those legs!

[@Just_One_Tree]

Arisce is a great host. I love this show!

[@adventureswithgnomie6553]

Great interview session! Guy's you're terrific - keep it up.

[@thabanimadlala3578]

Honestly, this series one of my personal best series on youtube

[@parisnotfrench]

I LOVE THIS!! This type of content is so enlightening and honestly such a fresh air. Everything that Jace said in this video totally enhanced my perspective. I just love this, I couldn't even say what I wanted to say because there's just too many. Great quality content that humanity NEED 💯👌

[@LegionIvory]

Everyone has a preference, and that's perfectly fine, but to flat out deny a group is just insane. Don't be ass. You don't have to *dislike* people.

[@dwight9012]

"Do you have your cellphones on you?" / "No, it's in my purse." 🤣🤣🤣🙌

[@lifegaymer8066]

As someone who once bought into the “masc for masc” drama, watching this video just really solidified how much of an ass I used to be. And y’all clocked me lol I am pretty fem now. 🤷‍♂️

[@Kwesi-Nimako]

Can we boycott Grindr!! There’s sooo much hate there, jeez 🙄!! And in my country it’s used as a scam where men are beaten, arrested or killed.. so I mean

[@Kwesi-Nimako]

Carrot Boy thank you soo much for your kind words carrot FUCK!!! I am very aware I am not for everyone else including your stupid opinions!!! 👍🏿

[@Kwesi-Nimako]

Kitten Braden I live in Africa where there the only organizations we have are the ready to serve our butchered bodies to the fishes!!! ☹️the queer organizations here are very small and almost non existing.

[@cinder2085]

charles nimako blame that on your shitty countries laws that fail to protect gay people and not on an app idiot

[@s2sHoXXs2]

Oh no, I've heard of things like that... Please stay safe!

[@Kwesi-Nimako]

Carrot Boy have a beautiful life love!

[@TheXxguthixX]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ANOTHER EPISODE, THANK YOU!

[@josecarballo4046]

In conclusion: stop judging each other and hating on each other! We're all part of the same community for god sakes! If you have nothing nice to say don't say anything!

[@KaiDecadence]

How about also accepting that you're not owed a date or fling and not everyone will be attracted to you for whatever reason?

[@tonguepop9453]

Something that has always bothered me with these masc for masc guys (not that there is anything wrong with that, you like what you like and no one can be everyone's cup of tea) is where do they draw the line of masculine and feminine for them to deem someone attractive and unattractive? I dont find my personality or body language to be very feminine but my style is pretty androgynous. And even when i wear very masculine clothing i still get mistaken for a girl or transman. So when i get masc for masc bros hitting me up, i be confused cause i dont even know if im their type lol p.s. something that bothered me in the video is they never brought up fem men who are only seeking masc men... 👀

[@kittenbraden9800]

At the end of the day, it's so subjective and inter-personal that you just can't tell until you've met/seen/interacted with a person. The bottom line (ha) could be: boxes can be kinda sorta helpful but are ultimately unsuitable in determining who you're gonna vibe with

[@tonguepop9453]

@@kittenbraden9800 personally speaking i dont like boxes and get extremely annyoned when ever people try to label me as something (usually a fem i swear you put on alittle black eyeliner and a crop top and all of a sudden everyone thinks you want to be a woman) no one is all masculine or all femmine we all hold traits of both and express them in different ways. I think judt what gets me with these apps, which i often use because its hard to find other queer men from in person interactions, is that the dudes up there dont even look at the profile they just decide to talk to ypu base off your pic which i cant put all sides of me in one pic. So when i get these masc for masc guys hitting me up i wonder if i am masculine enough that they will like me or if they will see me in a maxi skirt one day and go fuck that or if it while go south and expect me to be their bottom bitch cause im a bit more girly lol but anyways i never get too worried all people want nowadays is sex. I miss the older days when people actually took people out on dates then if the date went well took em home. Nowadays all we get is dick pics and addresses. It baffles me how many men will send a picture of their asshole or erect dick before a picture of their face.

[@KaiDecadence]

Please don't. Look, you know when a guy is masculine and when a guy is feminine, let's not pretend like we don't know. You pretty much answered your own question. You happen to have a masculine style but have a feminine-leaning personality. I say "leaning" because feminine personalities can come in mainly three different ways. Soft, Bubbly, and Flamboyant. I guess you can just boil it down to this. If it's easy to tell that you read as gay (even if you aren't gay), you aren't masculine. And for what you said towards the end, they already have a fem guy who's only seeking masc men. That guy in the video, you know for a fact he only really goes after masculine guys (but gets turned down a good lot). Because here's the honest truth about feminine guys, we aren't attracted to other feminine guys. I mean let's be real here. If masculine guys rejecting us by the hundreds was that big an issue, we'd just easily just say "Fuck it" and go for other feminine guys. But yet we don't. And why? Because we don't find it romantically attractive in other guys and we prefer masculine guys for whatever reason (opposites attract is a popular one). I agree that they should talk about this but they never will lol.

[@s2sHoXXs2]

@@KaiDecadence Oh my god, why do I always see you leaving long annoying ass comments usually about protecting or affirming a status quo and trying to fit everything into neat lables without much critical thought?

[@KaiDecadence]

@@s2sHoXXs2 1. I'm everywhere and I'll comment on things that if I had an opinion. This is something I have an opinion on. 2. When it comes to this particular topic, I can just tell that ALWAYS on the feminine guy front, they aren't being 100% honest and as someone who almost fell into that trap, I definitely feel it's important to call certain things out when things are getting ridiculous. In the case of fem guys, I just find it funny that in these videos, they either never ask them what kind of guys THEY are looking for (and I mean specifics) or if they do, they're vague about it but I can see right through it. Not much critical thought? Oh honey I've thought about certain controversial topics for years so don't come at me with that. I'm just realistic when it comes to certain harsh realities.

[@bidyutdutta7967]

I missed arisce so much love her

[@onyx081]

How tall is Arisce, because everyone she interviews looks so short next to her

[@miaumantis]

onyx081 she is 6 foot.

[@goingghost8297]

@@miaumantis she's a goddamn Amazon like wonderwoman. A queen truely

[@SoaringWings]

She towers over her subjects

[@heloisanunes285]

The best of the serie. Thank you!

[@NicolaPowell8889]

Straight girl here, love this shit. Omg "good luck tops". Also the comment about chasing masculinity, on point! Awesome!!!

[@Ushinawa95]

I WAS HERE FOR THIS !!! Jesus I needed this. So empowering

[@Sweetpeafan]

We need more What the Flip, and more Arisce! She's fabulous!

[@starryabs]

That is a THICC Judd Nelson circa Breakfast Club don't @ me

[@fancii]

Dominic 6'1 & THICCCCCCC OOWEE!!!

[@lorenzogonzalez0]

I really do appreciate the changes that's happening with the parallel of society and society.

[@aliasanew3398]

Jace is a cool dude

[@sadies.1576]

I just love that content like this exists now!

[@SoftSemtex]

i didnt know i needed to have a favorite pair of legs with a head, but here i go. thank you for all of you

[@liveandletlive7628]

Amazing beautiful and funny hostess. Loved the discussion with the down to earth crew

[@JulianCampbellPPV]

I just feel like as a gay black guy who commects with more ‘masculine’ images, the gay community hasn’t ever giving me something to resonate with. I’ve legitimately in the last few years seen more people telling my story In the hip hop community than I ever have in the gay community. That lack of representation coupled with the racism I’ve faced from more ‘feminine’ gays and the shaming of “masc4masc” guys by gay and trans ppl just pushes me further into that category. I don’t hate feminine guys nor do I totally rule them out but I am more attracted to guys who share my ‘masculine’ interests and who I’d be able to talk to like a straight friend. That’s just my thing and I want the community to respect that.shoutout black mirror.

[@mochiboy7750]

this is great! I usually watch the old gags and lesbians on this channel

[@njabulozungu2527]

The hostess ft Naomi Smalls collab = legs for days

[@anonymerbenutzer5574]

I am a bisexual cis guy and it feels like I find a lot of drama from many in these groups because I'm assumed to hate them. And bi guys are always the last resort guy.

[@AllyRoselovesyou]

Ok but i clicked so fast when i saw Jace cuz he used to date a girl i went to highschool with. And wow hes so grown now 😝😅

[@DirkAustin]

This was so amazing! So much truth from them especially Arisce!

[@rudetuesday]

"It's nice to end on a threat." I'm adding this to my quotes. Thank you!

[@olivermurrie1510]

The host is why I live

[@emmabarton98]

That pansexual guy that she interviewed on the street is adorable 😍

[@maurigl7720]

Grinder is a place when us LGBTQ+ people can go find others like us and maybe date someone. Sometimes it can be harsh and awful

[@lit2021]

Jace is so genuine and authentic! Love him 😍

[@nickc3657]

Arisce is such a good host!! I want to see more of her

[@sockelf]

Wait what do you mean this is the finale???? And there's not gonna be a season 2?? No you guys I need more we need more of this show and Arisce!!!

[@shaundrebalie1953]

I’m tempted to say something negative just because I want the host to come after me...but seriously, this just keeps on getting better and I thoroughly enjoyed the two guests. Good job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@popcorn1304]

I love the host! She's hilarious!!

[@Mikmaqdrag]

Omg when he said no my phones in my purse. Lmao 😂 I love this

[@marckid93]

Jace could mess up my whole life he's so fine. 😩👌🏾

[@gavinburnes6344]

“Not too feminine” pleaseeeeeeee

[@mysteriousfun4759]

This was a great show! And all 3 of you are intelligent gorgeous ambassadors of the world and I love you all for your service to the community and the effervescence Of your personality’s

[@thereece001]

I wish I could go on this just to talk about the discrimination I’ve received. Undateable for sure 😂👌

[@MrNicoleCherie]

Loved the "good luck tops!"😂

[@DJFrenchFry]

Bullshit meter is lovely. As a Cis man engaged to a trans man I understand both of these individuals processes. Seeking masculinity is an effeminate quality is Gold put that on a shirt!

[@ROyler-rs6nh]

"he just told me I was smiling too much in my picture" negging, how fun!

[@dejabrown4368]

You guys are awesome! Love you Jace!!! ❤️❤️

[@DeepakMatthews90]

This is a fantastic video. All three of them made strong and valid points. My two cents is, everybody has preferences and that's fine. If you are masc for masc, masc for fem,fem for fem, ftm,mtf, it's all FINE..........as long as you are respectful of everyone; especially those who are different from you. Just because you prefer a certain thing, doesn't mean that those who differ from you are inferior. In short, don't be a fucking asshole about your preferences.

[@fallthehomophobes9409]

I am a trans non binary individual and honestly i havent had many people call me brave or anything like that just mostly mean hatful shit i hear something nice very rarely and usually that happens on fb or gridr but almost never locally i live on the bible belt in KY and i hate it

[@avarussurava9488]

The host is everything 😂

[@tanerg7774]

I agree so much with everything in this video. Thank you for great content!!

[@augusts1]

I love Arisce. She's so funny & tells it like it is.