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[@MJA-0330]

I still don't understand why the Israeli Tech Tree starts with the M51 when they also used the M50 among others

[@nicholasfielding9157]

They may change it if they add the m50 like how they did with the French and Japanese reserve tanks

[@Iznario]

Probably because they didn't want a copy & paste vehicle as a starter back then, they could change it now/ sooner or later though, as they've already added the AMX 13 to the tree

[@NotQuiteAllHere]

I still want the French to get the M-51

[@MrNubeGuy]

Maybe lineup? Is there anything else to go with it?

[@tasman006]

When the Jews started back in 1948 in their first war with the Arabs they had some armoured cars, 10 x French Hotchkiss H39 light tanks and a small amount of M4 Sherman and Crowell tanks. The M50 came a bit later so they could put Isreal down to rank 3 maybe but a its copy and paste French and British tanks. Though the H39 tanks would be even lower rank 2 I think.

[@abdigeh]

I wanna see the Brazilian modification of the m3 Stuart with a 90mm anti-tank cannon in wt as well with brazils mbt they made

[@chiriematthieu]

Honestly, i don t understand how we didn t get 3 m50 in israel TT and 1 premium/event. -m50 early : m4a1 or m4 composit with the sa50 gun. Br5.0 -m50 late : m4a4 with new desiel engine, sa50 gun, hvss. Br 5.7 -m50-60 varient with the 60mm gun. Br 6.7 -m50 dagen, prototype with shorten hull. As an premium/reward/event. Br 5.7

[@ofekk213]

Let me correct you on these: * M-50s and M-51s did not have a standard Sherman hull and turret and were mostly mix&matched with different hull and turret combos, the difference between the M-50 Degem Alef (translates to: "model A") and M-50 Degem Bet (translates to: "model B") is that the 400hp petrol engine and VVSS suspension of the former was replaced on the latter by a 460hp diesel engine made by Cummins as well as an HVSS suspension. * The "m50-60" you named is the M-50 HVMS, a tank modified for the Chilean armed forces by the IDF. It uses the domestic Israeli 60mm HVMS cannon, with manual loading of 12rpm instead of an autoloader like on the M113 HVMS prototypes. The M-50 HVMS's cannon can fire M300 APFSDS which can go right through a T-54/55/62's UFP at below 2km. The high penetration and fast fire rate would place it at least at 7.3. I am unaware if it has an LRF but it could be possible, and I believe it has gen 1 thermals too. Pretty sure it is fully stabilized as well. * "m50 degen" is a fictional name. From your description I realized you refer to the M-50 Degem Yud (translates to: "Model J". The letter Yud (י) sounds like the letter Y, but the Israeli M-50 and M-51 Sherman subvariants used a short-lived naming scheme naming them after the hebrew alphabet order. And no, there are no tanks between the Defem Bet and Degem Yud, at least not to recorded knowledge, even tho it's wierd we went from 2nd letter to 10th). The Degem Yud was an experimental M-50 Degem Bet, which had its hull shortened by 30cm. This resulted in a much lower-profile Sherman that also kept its full -10° of gun depression as the turret interior was unchanged. This experimental mod was possible thanks to the new diesel engine's lower drive shaft. I hope I helped with this info!

[@merajmasuk]

@@ofekk213 did all degem bet m-50's had hvss tho?

[@ofekk213]

@@merajmasuk Yes. All M-50 Degem Bets had their engine and suspension upgraded to diesel 460hp and HVSS respectively.

[@ofekk213]

@@omerrwire- I will check it out, haven't updated my tree in a long time.

[@merajmasuk]

@@ofekk213 I think the reason for using the letter Yud is because it's the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet

[@partisan3353]

type 11 SAM my beloved

[@ToshioThunder]

Low boy Sherman! Low boy Sherman!

[@Dosahka]

TEC still don't know how chapters work on YT

[@gamecks1539]

In fairness bro has to put out like 3 videos a day during update season.

[@jesusofbullets]

He probably doesn't want people skipping through to the things they're interested in and leaving (which drops his watch stats)

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

Stormer Blazer looks fun, especially if 25 to 30mm is an upgrade option. Western AA is sorely missing compared to Eastern counterparts.

[@Norrikan]

The T77 is neat, but I doubt the sextuple .50s would be all that great. I'd much prefer the T52, an experimental Sherman variant equipped with a ball-turret rocking a Bofors 40mm autocannon and a pair of 12.7mm machineguns.

[@justsomehaatonpassingby4488]

Still, we take what little spaa we can have... And the US tree is very much lacking in that department

[@devlintaylor9520]

i prefer 50 cals over the shitty cannons like the duster

[@devlintaylor9520]

@@justsomehaatonpassingby4488 Surprised it took them this long

[@tobacco_addict64]

I'd like to see both of the spaa in the game honestly

[@Lillspratt]

I feel like there should be a function that makes it so u can equip snorkles and floating pods mid battle, kinda like how the entrenching plows work. Examples of this could be it taking like 10 sec and then u deploy the snorkel on the T 80, or the floating parts for the strv 103, or ikv, or what ever. Please make vid of this so more ppl can se the idea.

[@garrettmiller1355]

I feel bad for isreal tech tree ever since found out people made a fully comprehensive tech tree.

[@fritzmordred4874]

I hope they add the Ascod/Ascod2 Variant

[@nickkozak4763]

i still don’t understand why they aren’t giving us more LAV variants.

[@aka_gunner7226]

6:18 ,,the zsu was shooting right at u ,,the rounds were going inside of u ,,,yet you recevied 0 damage

[@noamax1]

No israeli spaa?

[@jyralnadreth4442]

I have a suggestion on how to balance the 2S38....instead of demanding a BR increase (Which would actively make Russia's win rates even higher at 11.7 and still wouldnt affect the lethality) I suggest adjusted ammo pricing for the vehicle. HE and HEVT would be stock ammo, the APCBC should be somewhat costly (Enough to put a mild dent in post battle Profits) and to really hit the APFSDS so that using 148 rounds would cost a fortune and likely negate profits. Since this vehicle is an SPAA that can light tank...HEVT being stock and free promotes its use.

[@garrettmiller1355]

So your plan is to make the vehicle less grind efficient in a very grindy game.

[@dulguunjargal1199]

​@@garrettmiller1355 So the Game is just to waste time getting Worthless Pixels for Several Hours a day instead of having fun now????

[@ofekk213]

I think a much better balancing option would be to buff the western IFVs around 10.0 to at least be competitive with the 2S38. None of them have the amazing gun precision that the 2S38 has.

[@yazadkavarana28]

You forgot its an prem and ppl buy it so they can grind fast and earn more sl…making it less profitable will just take away its premium status at that point

[@michaelberger5060]

Germany Needs StuG IV

[@BugattiONE666]

"Powerful starstreak missles" BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA

[@jesusofbullets]

Powerful against planes, helis, and light armor.

[@Brandon_J]

They are powerful. Just too fast for their own good, and awkward to aim.

[@MilkyTheRaccoon]

America NEEDS better SPAA. Fingers crossed this happens

[@ambrus-hun]

I hope the T34/76 will get the hungarian camouflage. Hungary captured around 10 T34 (different models). There is 1 picture with a captured T34/76 in 1943, the turret had red, white and green stripes around. (The hungarian flag)

[@p40o]

It's an Italian t34, not Hungarian.

[@ambrus-hun]

@@p40o The romanian He 112 B-1/U2 has 2 hungarian camo, the german Fw 190 F-8 has a hungarian camo and there is more vehicles that has different nations camo. Even the hungarian IL-28 has romanian camo. So what's your point?

[@ExploringSitkaAlaskausin-wj4wu]

We need a separate War Thunder. One for 1939-1945 real WWII Tanks only. No cold war tanks/paper tanks in this group. Just like the old War Thunder. Nothing higher than 6.7. Please bring back the Old War Thunder. Establish a separate 1939-45 game inside War Thunder. Many players who have left War Thunder will return.

[@BloredBean0]

So the Italians lost the tank and the 10th and was destroyed in combat so why are they getting t-34-76? Why can't the USSR tech tree finally get a t-34-76 that was steel casted. Can't believe gaijin listens to some of the dumbest suggestions

[@Andrey_Gysev]

No russian forum suggestions? Sad. I've made plenty of them in may and all of them have "passed to developers" status.

[@MestruTrmonen]

i've proposed some aifv's and AT but nothing, that's sad

[@thybonheng1485]

Puma s1 anyone because there no reason to play Germany anymore 🤬

[@Mr_Marc0]

Fr, the germans get cold war vehicles from 2007. Where is the new stuff? Eurofighter and 2a8? And the Eurofighter isnt that overpowers anymore due to the new russian and US aircafts.

[@gianmarcomarzo7327]

Nice top tier syndrome. There is so much stuff in the German tech tree that it isn't even funny.

[@gp33music41]

​@@Mr_Marc0 Dude, the 2a7v was accepted in 2020, and the first units were delivered only three years ago, and the German air tree is sad because there is literally nothing to add, Germany only can add the eurofighter and that's it.

[@scharrk]

Jesus stop spamming out videos and add tags on the ones you have

[@shawnfaulk4328]

First?

[@CruLisP]

need nasams