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@papa_son32334 ай бұрын
Hello Myth vision, I am a 29 year old made from a remote place in India. I agree with most of your analysis and data which you've presented. For one thing, yes modern chrisrians do not understand the message of the gospel; because of this we christians are also divided into various sects with our own view of the Bible and of the world....And so I urge you as a brother in christ to please read my paper on my worldview. Since youtube doesn't allow me to post links or pdf, please google 'papaSon academia' click the first link that appears and read the paper titled "SUMER" or Just the conclusion. It will hopefully give you another reason to believe and hope in Jesus Christ.
@MarcillaSmith4 ай бұрын
What's the groundbreaking discovery?
@rhb300014 ай бұрын
He lies like always
@matthewalger46904 ай бұрын
@@rhb30001He is bending some findings. He was on Patristica youtube channel, and learned about the Testamentum. It is a restored document. Go to their channel if you want to learn more.
@jacafren58424 ай бұрын
So no Discovery 💡 just a weird theory ignoring evidence and not using historical critical methods 😂
@JosephHewes-mm1bc4 ай бұрын
There is nothing I dream of more than of them finding another cache of manuscripts that bring into focus just how much the New Testament evolved and developed over time.
@ibrahimelmasry-z3k4 ай бұрын
The first Jesus was near Yemen, and the center of his call was in Najran, south of eastern Saudi Arabia now, and the tomb of Jesus is in the Sultanate of Oman now. Jesus = Joshua from the Arabic name radiates light and radiant knowledge. He was a thousand years before Jesus of Rome. Archaeological documents confirm what I say
@lelin704 ай бұрын
Has that not allready been proved by for example Bart Ehrman.
@ibrahimelmasry-z3k4 ай бұрын
@@lelin70 Please explain more to me what you are saying. Best regards.
@samismael44224 ай бұрын
You’re not alone! 😅
@lelin704 ай бұрын
See more than one video and research Barts work
@nongwadbniah22624 ай бұрын
I am always wondering who saw Jesus and satan in the wilderness and record each conversation during the temptations in the wilderness.
4 ай бұрын
who heard the various versions of his words on the cross
@umunhum34 ай бұрын
Satan is a metaphor for the individual mind The Wilderness is a metaphor for meditation Everyone who has ever attempted to meditate experiences Satan Every time a Sensation flows through the body's nervous system, it brings about thought That is why GOD instructed Moses to Raise the Bronze Snake and Stare at it when bitten by a serpent and you will "live" (have a good meditation) The best way to return to your mediation after recognizing that you are distracted is to focus on the Energy Centers of your Spine (The 7 Seals)
@TheExistentialVegan4 ай бұрын
These stories are not literal. For example, when Moses and Elijah appeared, standing beside Jesus, this was the authors way of saying, 'Jesus is the fulfillment of the law (Moses) and the prophets (Elijah). Much of the stories in the NT are like this: symbolism, simile, etc. That's why you can confidently realize that the star of david, flight to Egypt, virgin birth, wise men, slaughtering of the innocents, are not historical. But, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
@larrote64674 ай бұрын
@@TheExistentialVegan this is a very modern take; nope, these stories we4 considered literal back then.
@cindychristman87084 ай бұрын
Better yet, how can you even talk with pleural effusions?
@edgarsnake28574 ай бұрын
I've been a skeptic and a non-believer since I read the Bible cover to cover when I was 12 years old. That was fifty years ago. I've read it through 2 more times over the years and I'm an armchair historian on the subject. It's a fascinating story. The apologetic early timeline never made sense to me.
@shellnet4114 ай бұрын
The problem is the latest date does not work. The earliest date does not work because Jesus did not die and then immediately get this written it took at least a couple years. I mean it took them that long to write it down physically considering Jesus was born in like around 4 AD based on astrology. I’ve been studying every thing both pro and Con documentaries. I read the Bible. I didn’t do it covered cover. I’ve followed a number of different ministers. My favorites are the ones that are extremely liberal I also follow and comment and speak to a number of people in the witchcraft community where many of them have been harmed by religion specifically Christianity I also follow a number of former cult members that were harmed by their cult of Christianity, such as Mormonism or other evangelical groups, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and so on I follow many of these people, but they confirm my faith as a Christian and in some reality of the Bible I also believe that conservative ism is the antichrist liberalism by reading it as the things that Jesus does and says he was liberal the Pharisees the people in charge were the conservative state. Abortion is part of Christianity because it is part of Judaism abortion was done by the temple priest you can’t read a single time that Jesus says anything about that so he is not speaking out against it. It cannot be something he is against the things he spoke out against were the conservative things he spoke out in favor of feeding the hungry Universal minimum living quality clothing, the poor healing, the sick. These are liberal views and liberal things to do and Support Christianity by definition is liberal means Christlike Paul had his place, but he never met Jesus during his lifetime, I take it from Jhon who was the youngest of the disciples who talks about things Jesus actually said and things he actually did his sayings talk about how when you do for the least of these you do for me so he’ll be sick feed the hungry, the homeless and less fortunate you have two shirts and someone else has one of your shirts to them. The woman who gave her last penny to the church gave more than the billionaire gave millions they can afford it and they’ll still be richer than she was ever more hard on yourself to make it easier for others the more you have in heaven I’ve read enough to get the gist and understand what the truth is behind the stories and contemporary literature supports. The Bible is being true timeline got messed up, changing of calendars and using too much of the overlapping pharaoh as consecutive pharaohs in Egypt when they’re dating things and putting too many gaps where they don’t belong and not putting the right gaps where they do belong, it has turned history into a big mess
@dline66344 ай бұрын
@@shellnet411 I see you chose the Karl Marx Jesus as your Avatar. Not historically or religiously accurate, but very in vogue. Good for you.
@warrensmith81614 ай бұрын
What amazes me is that the similarities between Josephus' account of saving a man from crucifixion and the Gospel accounts of Joseph of Arimathea are so easily dismissed as "coincidence". If they are understood as deliberate, then it is obvious that none of the Gospels could have been written before Josephus wrote his autobiography which is dated to around 94-99 CE. Naturally, the literal time difference between the two events creates a difficulty, but only if the Gospels are accepted as providing a literal history, so secular scholars that reject the historicity of Christ should have little difficulty of making a connection. But then the problem becomes "Why?" The answer to this question is partially provided by a closer inspection of Josephus' account: “And when I was sent by Titus Caesar with Cerealins, and a thousand horsemen, to a certain village called Thecoa, in order to know whether it were a place fit for a camp, as I came back, I saw many captives crucified, and remembered three of them as my former acquaintance. I was very sorry at this in my mind, and went with tears in my eyes to Titus, and told him of them; so he immediately commanded them to be taken down, and to have the greatest care taken of them, in order to their recovery; yet two of them died under the physician's hands, while the third recovered.” The fact that this passage appears to offer no direct connection to Christ or Christians has prevented this passage from being discussed as anything more than an example of how Christ himself may have survived his own crucifixion. However, if the mention of the place called Thecoa and Josephus' going "...with tears in my eyes..." to Titus are taken together they create another "parallel" to the Old Testament Woman from Tekoa whose story is told in 2 Samuel 14. This passage opens with: 2 Samuel 14 “So Joab the son of Zeruiah perceived that the king’s heart was concerned about Absalom. 2 And Joab sent to Tekoa and brought from there a wise woman, and said to her, ‘Please pretend to be a mourner, and put on mourning apparel; do not anoint yourself with oil, but act like a woman who has been mourning a long time for the dead. 3 Go to the king and speak to him in this manner.’ So Joab put the words in her mouth.” The woman then goes to King David and pretends that she is pleading for the life of her own son, but she was really setting David up to accept the idea of sparing the life of his own traitorous son, Absalom. What if this "parallel" was intended as an allusion designed to identify the "acquaintance" that Josephus saved with the rebellious "Son of David"? Even if we were to refuse to accept that Josephus' intentionally created such an allusion, can we assume that Gnostic Christians, who were known for claiming to possess "hidden" knowledge, would not have imagined that Josephus was sending a hidden message? But this is not all. Josephus' mention of someone named "Cerealins" can easily be interpreted as an allusion to the Roman Cerealia festival that was held every April to commemorate the goddess Ceres and her dying/rising daughter Proserpina. How many "coincidences" does it take before historians begin to see a deliberate pattern? If Joseph of Arimathea was intended to represent Josephus, then it seems easy to recognize the "empty tomb" as representing Josephus' Wars which contains no literal mention of Christians. This then leads to the suspicion that the "Jewish" Revolt was actually a Christian revolt and Josephus used his influence with the Flavians to hide that fact and save Christians from further persecutions and his crucifixion account was a way for him to communicate to Christians what he had done. (According to the otherwise tacit Tacitus, Nero blamed Christians for burning Rome in 64CE and they were persecuted as a result.) There are numerous other "parallels" between the writings of Josephus and the Gospels that, when taken together, they should be more than enough to provide a very strong case to date the Gospels after Josephus' published his autobiography. Even the name "Mark" can serve as a clue since it literally means "consecrated to the god Mars".
@dline66344 ай бұрын
@@warrensmith8161 I love how this video with no evidence tries to say Christians are making up stories, and then people like you get on here in the comments and just make things up. Great work on this. You should write a book and do KZbin videos about how obvious the unfounded claims you came up with on your are. People call Christians grifters, while grifting. People call Christianity a cult while blindly following others and making up silly justifications like this to tell everyone to believe the way they do. Christianity is a humble recognition of human hypocrisy while atheism is an arrogant denial of it.
@AnnoyingNewsletters4 ай бұрын
Slow down and try that again in a word document first with punctuation and breaks between paragraphs, please? It sounds like you have a decent point to make, but it got lost in translation.
@MythVisionPodcast4 ай бұрын
For those in the comments dismissing this as old news, it’s clear you’re either missing the point or haven’t kept up with the latest critical scholarship on the Gospels’ second-century dating. And no, this video isn’t clickbait-the idea of second-century Gospel creations is a radical view, not the consensus, and it’s definitely worthy of serious investigation. Dr. Litwa's work is a must-read to catch up on the current state of research. If you’re not familiar, now’s the perfect time to dive into his course and book-you might be surprised at what you’ve been missing.
@Akio-fy7ep4 ай бұрын
Fine, but there is an important difference between a legitimate scholar and a crypto-apologist. I would not look to Litwa for solid scholarship. An honest scholar is usually the one who says "I don't know, nobody knows, and we probably will never know, because everything it would take to know was torched thousands of years ago, like as not to keep anybody from knowing."
@DanthePatriarch4 ай бұрын
The title promises Groundbreaking new discoveries. It did not deliver that
@MikeJw-je4xk4 ай бұрын
Thanks. I won't waste my time watching it.
@Thedunguen99994 ай бұрын
@@MikeJw-je4xk y’all sound mad
@MJS22414 ай бұрын
To me it was more of an advertisement of Dr David Litwa courses you could buy. To be honest none of these videos ever really get to a " real point". It's all opinions and very little facts. Click bait titles. Scholars that come on the show tip toe around using fancy word salads in order to not really get to much of a point because they'd rather not lay it out flat and offend anyone or possibly ruin their career.
@maatjusticia39544 ай бұрын
If you are interested in this late dating of the gospels, there's an article on Richard Carrier's blog, "Was the Entire New Testament Forged in the Second Century?". There you'll find the new most authoritative peer-reviewed books on the matter and Richard's opinion, so you can draw your own conclusions. For free.
@tulpas934 ай бұрын
You should really try to get your money back!
@wordscapes56904 ай бұрын
You really should tell your audience that this is an advertisement.
@xono98484 ай бұрын
He literally said it’s a “Course” 😂
@1lollmaolol14 ай бұрын
He mentioned "we are affiliates of dr litwa". What more you want ?
@wordscapes56904 ай бұрын
@@xono9848 I mean in the title. It should state clearly that it is an advert and not an exposition as it suggests. Calm down.
@craigdouglas99794 ай бұрын
People who read material like this will quickly twig it is an ad.
@rahulmenon43574 ай бұрын
Bro all of the videos on this channel post 2019 are for promoting some pretty niche courses
@jseaman2564 ай бұрын
it would be a good future episode to talk about church propaganda in the late 1st century and 2nd century, particularly with the church fathers
@salt19564 ай бұрын
Absolutely! The personal agendas of the Church Fathers prevailed against a very small pond of educated believers and gave us what we know today as the New Testament. I'd like to know what really happened within Christendom in those first few centuries after the death of Jesus. I bet it was brutal.
@ryan237324 ай бұрын
Especially considering the impact it had on Western civilization as a whole, this information would be very important.
@PoeLemic2 ай бұрын
@@salt1956 Also, be nice to have a real understanding of the different groups existing at the time, along with the motivations that they had to further their particular concept of Jesus. For me, I don't really know a lot about Macrion, or the Essenses. Be nice to have that developed in videos.
@doremi910 күн бұрын
@@PoeLemic Marcion. I've heard it's the Jesus sayings sans the miracles.
@AntonioMirandaTeologiaReversa4 ай бұрын
I really liked this video. He didn't force any dating and only said the known facts. We are together, my brother.
@stevenkenney94734 ай бұрын
Clickbait. What is the discovery? There was no mention of anything groundbreaking. It was all rehash of stuff we know.
@robpeterslaypaul4 ай бұрын
And an ad for some course.
@JaySamurai794 ай бұрын
If this is the case then have saved me precious time watching this nonsense 👍
@widerthanpictures4 ай бұрын
Yeah wtf is the date? This is bad content
@betadecay65034 ай бұрын
Clickbait is a necessary element of a successful KZbin channel...get over it
@timmacwilliam95194 ай бұрын
Apparently, you don't know what clickbait is. There is nothing here to lure you away from this video via click... that's clickbait
@davidholman484 ай бұрын
Evangelicals and other people of the faith claim the Bible is the Word of God. I would love to believe that but I can't. Here's why: The Bible has been a source of debate and discord since the beginning. Is God a god of confusion? Would God deliberately mandate the writing of a book or a series of books that would lead to witch burnings, wars, the Inquisition, hundreds of different denominations, and become a source of fear, self-doubt and anxiety? I would think the Word of God would be univocal and simple. "Love one another in the best way you can." "Respect yourself, otherwise you can't respect others." "Help the helpless." Is that so complicated that people would be put to death or ostracized for believing it? (Okay, I'll shut up now.)
@gregattanasio31854 ай бұрын
You have been Burned by a False Church
@Unique_Monk4 ай бұрын
Nowhere is it claimed the Bible is the word of God - nowhere It’s written by 40 authors INSPIRED BY GOD
@gabrielkovalov89664 ай бұрын
Well God created a world where evil can cause babies to have cancer - or even a harsher take, it is God himself causing a baby to have cancer. Since God is all powerful and everything is under his will. - be it the specific thing, or the system. For us to have free will babies do not need to get cancer.
@Unique_Monk4 ай бұрын
@@gabrielkovalov8966 Given you have made your mind up, there doesn’t seem to be any point in explaining things to you But here’s the point you need to grasp - those babies are in safe hands and away from this evil world And the next life is the one where they will live with no cancer or sickness Here’s a thought for you - if there is no God, there is no objective morality - and if we are animals that survive or die by natural selection, what’s your issue ? You’re just stardust aren’t you
@vandango9014 ай бұрын
It annoys me too. Personally, I don't need any of it to be dated to any time or need to be perfect. It is a text to be studied and understood. Even if the Bible was written in 300AD amd Jesus was a total myth I would still follow it. The spiritual insight has value and rings true.
@susanlawens37764 ай бұрын
It is very interesting that a "false witness" according to the Old Testament/Jewish Bible is one who attests to something they have not personally witnessed with their own eyes and ears, and yet that is all Christianity is, that is all they have.
@someoneelse6618Ай бұрын
Fabulous point
@danielpuckett77924 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@johnchill4 ай бұрын
this is more like a 23 minute advertisement than an informative video
@craigdouglas99794 ай бұрын
Well, it's an ad, but it's a bloody good ad. I will look at this guy's course as the presentation asks. It is an enjoyable 20 minutes.
@AldousHuxleysCat4 ай бұрын
Rather than giving you the information promised in the title, this is just clickbait trying to sell something. I had a lot of issues with this channel over the last year or so with their content and this is the last straw goodbye Myth vision And I'll save you a click folks, the cost of the course is $39.95
@top_gallant4 ай бұрын
I took a religious study class in college. A christain preacher was in charge of it. He was biased but at least admitted everytime it was brought up and did his best to be secular.
@BooyaCS4 ай бұрын
The interesting thing is they had a cannon around 350 CE. So lets extrapolate that and say that the Gospels were written sometime between Josephus (70-100 CE) and the Council of Rome 350 CE... My theory is that Christianity came about from the Essenes around the time of the dead sea scrolls (The community rule scroll) and the sacking of the temple in Jeruselem aroun 70AD. Some movement or rebellion (may be lead by a guy named Jesus) So we have about 200 years (100 BC to 70 CE) of refining the thoughts that may have been an oral tradition. Then Paul (who persecuted maybe the essenes) converts and writes to these start up churches what the cannon is. So we see a sect of judiasm that focuses on a teacher. Over time that teacher becomes a messiah figure and when someone finally stands up to the romans or the corrupted priests from the temple they are executed and the gospels take from this tradition. If the Q document existed it was probably from around a time just after the Community rule document (around 150 BC ) and before the destruction of the temple (70 CE). With Paul's writings (Around 48 CE) not referencing the saysings of Jesus (in a way the gospels do). What I was taught (more from an obersvation standpoint and not critical biblical scholarship) is that it is possible the foundations of a new jewish sect started becoming popular around 150 CE. Reached it's height in 33 to 38 CE (date range for the crucifictian) and was used as a way to Rebel against the old ways (Rabbinic second temple Judism and Rome during the late second temple era (40 to 70CE)) and was refinded during Paul's writings which inspired "acient biographies (gospels according to x) around 100 CE and later)). We know the existance of the gospels from the council of Rome in 350 CE. We know of a break between Judism and Christianity around the time of Justin Martyr. With Martyr's writings of Christianity predating Jesus' incarnation (possible reference to older dead sea scrolls/oral tradition). I think (at least what I remember being taught) was Mark was written somewhere around 100 CE with the last one John being written somewhere between 200 and possibly 250 CE with a literary/oral tradition predating that.
@allaklo68154 ай бұрын
Though I cannot say that you are absolutely right, but there is a good point in what you are saying. I want to add that somewhere around that time it was teacher called Righteous Teacher whose name was also Jesus, who was exiled from Judea by priests to Syria .Apostle Paul himself also was from Syria and may be affected by this teacher's doctrine.
@LukeAllen-sb4mx4 ай бұрын
Two people piss me off more than my mother in law. William lane Craig and Frank Turik. They lie and make people who question them and the bible feel like idiots. YET THEY KNOW the truth.
@LukeAllen-sb4mx4 ай бұрын
I've seen both of them speak of written documentation within 5 years of Jesus' resurrection. What the HELL?
@DIABOLICAL-64 ай бұрын
Yeah, well world is full of people who lie about things they in their subconscious understand is not true.
@discontinuedmodel2324 ай бұрын
@@LukeAllen-sb4mx Yes, because both of them have time machines (that can get them pretty close at least) and wrote the documentation themselves - duh!
@Unique_Monk4 ай бұрын
They don’t lie - they just debunk you
@Unique_Monk4 ай бұрын
@@discontinuedmodel232you do realise there is archeological evidence etc that support dating
@RaptorSeer4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you created this video. Rarely is it explained how scholars come up with the dating of the documents. Thank you!
@johnrichardson76294 ай бұрын
Oh, the non-canonical gospels are "highly legendary"? Nyuk nyuk nyuk. The whole NT is wall to wall legend.
@user-gk9lg5sp4y4 ай бұрын
Prove that and receive your accolades
@imwelshjesus4 ай бұрын
@@user-gk9lg5sp4y Unnecessary, any rational 21st c grown up needs only to read it to recognise it for what it is - BS.
@user-gk9lg5sp4y4 ай бұрын
@imwelshjesus I'm an Igtheist and an anti-theist. I don't believe any of the stories are 'history'. I do, however, think it's more likely than not that an apocalyptic preacher named Jesus who was born in Nazareth went to Jerusalem around 33 CE, pissed off the authorities, and was executed by the Romans. The rest of it I doubt and the 'miracles' I outright reject.
@johnrichardson76294 ай бұрын
@user-gk9lg5sp4y Prove that Cu Chulainn didn't defeat 1000 men in a game of hurling. Prove that Arthur didn't receive Ex Calibur from the Lady of the Lake. Prove that Hercules didn't hold up the sky so that Atlas could go off on some quest.
@user-gk9lg5sp4y4 ай бұрын
@johnrichardson7629 I never asserted that Celtic mythology was legendary. I believe it is, but I never asserted that. Forgive me if I jumped to a conclusion, but I assumed you were a mythicist and was meant the person of Jesus was legendary. If that's not the case, I withdraw my reply. If you are asserting that, I will reiterate. Show some compelling data.
@Zelig_G4 ай бұрын
I got a masters degree in OT at BYU. Luckily I learned the documentary hypothesis in Canada because BYU refused to teach it or anything like it for years.
@pragmaticcrystal4 ай бұрын
We Are MythVision‼️
@jasongallman20324 ай бұрын
Are you legion?
@discontinuedmodel2324 ай бұрын
@@jasongallman2032 I'm Spartacus myself - pass it on!
@blake45904 ай бұрын
Jesus looks extremely worried about this discovery in the thumbnail
@theonetruetim4 ай бұрын
lol amen
@BadgerWolf-194 ай бұрын
im not worried.
@Ashgutierr4 ай бұрын
He’s not worried at all
@EdwardM-t8p4 ай бұрын
😂
@litology_shango4 ай бұрын
Lmfao!!
@MrArdytube12 күн бұрын
Thanks! Hey Derek…. In case you are interested in some feed back… your vocal style is a bit over dramatic. Maybe as Josh for his honest feedback❤
@cowboybrown23564 ай бұрын
No one has yet discovered any first-century manuscripts of the New Testament Gospels. Which is why I believe that the written Gospel tales of Christianity began to be written in the second century, not the first century. But I'm not a University scholar, so what do I know?
@battlerushiromiya6513 ай бұрын
Would chrisrianity in tje first century have tje resources to produce and replicate the gospels?
@thymeparzival4 ай бұрын
The best way to spread knowledge is to open source the course.
@pittbullking874 ай бұрын
One small criticism, when you mention the American Civil War the painting you show is of a battle during the American Revolution.
@rickallanolsen4 ай бұрын
Groundbreaking Discovery? Clickbait Title. Not one word about a groundbreaking discovery.
@andrewc12054 ай бұрын
It's a click bait title to attract misinformed Christians in order to educate them of the scholarly consensus
@elyknavillus7774 ай бұрын
8:30 minutes in and it's still just church bad, could you get to your point already enough with the stage setting rhetoric. Wouldn't these text also most likely have been written after the apostles since they were still teaching them while alive so it would have been a second party referring to what said apostle would teach and wouldn't that put them close to the end of the first century not widely copied till the 2nd century which is where they date them to isn't it
@AndreLeBlonde14 ай бұрын
Exactly we see the early church Fathers quote scriptures left and right. The amount of hate I felt from this video was increasing as time went by. I want a single atheist answer a question: if Jesus rose from dead, what would that mean?
@ElusiveEel3 ай бұрын
@@AndreLeBlonde1 Even if it were given that Jesus was a real person who rose from the dead, it wouldn't mean that the cult centred around that myth is right about any church, hell, heaven or even god, unless the involvement of that god in the cult is established.
@AndreLeBlonde13 ай бұрын
@@ElusiveEel what would it mean then?
@ElusiveEel3 ай бұрын
@@AndreLeBlonde1 It would mean a first century jew rose from the dead, and that magic exists. But there's next to no evidence he ever existed, let alone was an important figure in a Jewish sect, and so a lot more historical details would also need to change in such a hypothetical upside down world.
@AndreLeBlonde13 ай бұрын
@@ElusiveEel you do you brother. I'd try to play safe and try to follow Christ. There's more evidence of Jesus in history that if anyone in first century
@genewhiteman18114 ай бұрын
I wonder what they're going to do when they find out they're completely wrong about everything
@imwelshjesus4 ай бұрын
Nothing, it's all a grift so they'll simply continue on grifting.
@rosemarymceathron40374 ай бұрын
They are like maga. They would never admit the truth.
@theonetruetim4 ай бұрын
Pretend they aren't and shift [as they always have do and will] the 'focus' to BS ethics and testimony. Acting in preference to that which corrupts perverts and skews Human potential Experience and accounting rather than honestly and in good consistent faith working toward the Ideals they claim to embody. No need to wonder, friend, on their behalf. Proof is in the....
@kodahodges41664 ай бұрын
They will not ever admit it. I believe most truly know that the Bible is hand written tales. but think of the power they would give up if it was ever admitted. The politicians, preachers, priest, churches… they aren’t giving their power up without a constant fight
@BlueStormBuG4 ай бұрын
@@imwelshjesus 🤑🤑🤑
@martinlag14 ай бұрын
There is enough interesting content to forgive the commercial.
@ArthurShedsJackson4 ай бұрын
Forget the Gospels. Explain the "afterlife"? Afterlife is not a unique concept exclusive to Christianity. That concept came long before Christianity was a twinkle of an idea. What every religious school, church, group, etc fail to admit is that there's ZERO evidence for OR against a God of any kind ever existed. The Gospels? The only thing the Gospels prove is that ancient men wrote stuff.
@AarmOZ844 ай бұрын
Add into the fact that early Jewish writings on an afterlife were heavily influenced by outside sources and early Hebrew text seems to be silent on the topic.
@MrBBaron4 ай бұрын
I totally agree that there is zero evidence of proof for anyone's particular god. Prove it and you will win the Noble prize in science. Men make gods in man's image.
@lewistoao68584 ай бұрын
The Christian Gates of Heaven is the same concept as the Zoroastrian Bridge to Heaven. The afterlife myth is comical.
@discontinuedmodel2324 ай бұрын
@@AarmOZ84 Exactly! Religions don't exist in a vacuum. And the Near East/Mediterranean/North African region became a crossroads of different cultures, languages & religions by the time Judaism & then Christianity really got established.
@andrewc12054 ай бұрын
Here are my questions to people who believe in a soul or any afterlife: What is consciousness without a functioning brain? There are no conclusive studies that prove consciousness remains after complete cessation. What is pain or suffering or any emotional response without a physical body to experience these things? Emotions and pain are processes/experiences that require a functioning central nervous system and chemical responses in the body. What are memories without a functioning brain to store and retrieve the information? We know memory loss affects millions of people and has many causes. These memories are not backed up in the cloud to be retrieved upon death. What are the 5 senses without the organs that are required of them to work. One could not see without physical eyes or hear without the necessary physical components, such as eardrums. What is a spirit/soul without any of the above? Can you prove consciousness survives beyond our physical bodies? Can you prove the Christian god exists beyond the scripture? What is heaven or hell without these senses? I have never witnessed anything supernatural or divine. This tends to be more present in people with excessive visual or auditory imagination (aka hyperphantasia / hyperauralia).
@greatcaesarsghostwriter30184 ай бұрын
In Sunday School, long ago, we were taught that Jesus was born during 4 BC.
@lelin704 ай бұрын
They cant agree on either the year or the date across christians. Doesnt it say whatever u need to know…
@Unique_Monk4 ай бұрын
This is true - because the calendar remember was dated after his life - not on his birth
@phataton75884 ай бұрын
That’s not why This is because the rulers they say were in power weren’t there after 4 BC
@phataton75884 ай бұрын
Similar to a “scripture” saying that Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence Then apologists Instead of saying this probably isn’t true The apologists would say Apparently Abraham Lincoln was older than we thought when he became president in 1860
@ziploc20004 ай бұрын
King Herod died in 4 BCE so he could not have ordered the babies killed in 0 CE. Of course he only appears in Matthew's gospel anyway so....
@timmacwilliam951913 күн бұрын
I don't think the concept of God will ever die but I do believe the internet will break religion.
@Theprofessorator4 ай бұрын
One thing I still struggle with, when it comes to dating Matthew is Matthew 16:28. Why would the author leave that in, if it were dated later, if they didn't think that at least one of the disciples of Jesus were still alive. Because if you're writing Matthew too late, the prophecy doesn't make any sense, because the disciples would obviously all be dead. I know modern Christians spiritualize the passage, but that doesn't explain the author's decision.
@HiddenGnosis4 ай бұрын
@theprofessorator I’ve always been fine with it because I am convinced that the apostles were teenagers when they followed Jesus, or at least early 20’s so its not that crazy of a verse if the gospels were written in the 90s some of them may have still been alive
4 ай бұрын
the prophecy doesn't make any sense anyway, and it is repeated in all 3 synoptic gospels.
@fre27254 ай бұрын
Yeah I think that's totally right. At least in the case of Mark and Matthew I think they're from the first century, since you wouldn't expect the verses about things ending in "this generation." Luke and John I would happily put in the second century since that problem has been smoothed over in both of them.
@sparrowthesissy21864 ай бұрын
Hmm, it might be because the Son of Man isn't always clearly Jesus. Sometimes he's calling himself that, but sometimes it seems like a different, angelic figure he's warning of. It might also be left in because of the tradition John's gospel comments on that one of the disciples is granted miraculously long life to await the Son of Man. Overall, I think the "within this generation" prediction was so strongly associated with early Christianity, that they had to try to explain it away instead of dropping it quietly.
4 ай бұрын
@@sparrowthesissy2186 It's big in Paul too.
@ThirdEarlXXl2 ай бұрын
This was an excellent video. I can tell that a lot of the people in the comments need to read more books on their own to be able to start grasping some of the basic concepts that bear insights into how we have been hoodwinked by politicians, wealthy people,religion and religious people.
@richardseifried75744 ай бұрын
Church budgets are propped up by their lack of taxes.
@mr.hampton49823 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks for all of your effort.
@wabisabi68754 ай бұрын
Woops, at 11:18 you mention the American Civil War, but show an image of the Revolutionary War. Might want to fix that, bro.
@djehutisundaka79984 ай бұрын
No gospel account had been written before 81 CE and most likely not before 83 CE. The gospel ascribed to Mark is familiar with the term 'rabbi' (Mark 9:5, 11:21, 14:45), knows of Rabbinic traditions (Mark 7:3-4), knows of the Rabbinic curse against the Nazrim (Mark 13:13), and knows of a Jewish tax that had apparently been of issue for the gentile audience he had been writing to (Mark 12:14-17). With Rabbinic Judaism being conceived of in 70 CE, the gospel ascribed to Mark certainly could not have been written as early as 70 CE. No one had been referred to as 'Rabbi' prior to 70 CE. Before 80 CE, there had been no curse against the Nazrim in the Birkat ha-Minim which consequently had forced Christians to no longer attend synagogue and before 81 CE, Domitian had not been emperor and therefore had yet to have extended the Jewish tax to any gentiles considered to be living like Jews. In all likelihood, the first gospel had not been written until sometime after the Passover of 83 CE when a full jubilee had now passed since the crucifixion without a claimed messiah having returned to establish the Kingdom. On average, the gospel accounts had probably been written 7 years apart with Acts and the gospel ascribed to Luke definitely having been written after 94 CE when Antiquities of the Jews had been published. The issue of the Jewish tax is last referred to in Luke and had been brought to an end at the end of Domitian's reign after which the gospel ascribed to John had been written.
@BrentKrohn6 күн бұрын
This was an eye opener Derek! Thanks!
@TheMindOfBrandon4 ай бұрын
Bart Ehrman indoctrinated me into thinking that the gospels were originally composed in the first century. This new information is gonna take some getting used to.
@SeekingTruth20234 ай бұрын
I have several books of Dr. Ehrman and I recently bought the 6th edition of the Introduction to the NT (you mentioned the 8th edition in the beginning of this video). Does this mean, the 6th edition is very outdated? Did Dr. Ehrman change his view of the date of the writing of the 4 gospels? Thank you in advance!
4 ай бұрын
ehrman adopts orthodox dating because it is orthodox dating EOM
@roninofstag82454 ай бұрын
Heya, Derek! Great video, as always! Side note: hiccup glitch at 18:57-18:59. Keep up the great work, otherwise and hope your move went well! 🤘😎💪❤️🔥
@TheCiphernet4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I was looking for this! I will support you! Blessings to you and your family!
@zdzislawmeglicki22624 ай бұрын
The Catholic Bible is fully annotated and open about the uncertainties wherever they arise, including the authorship of the Gospels and even the textual authenticity. For example, the ending of Mark Gospel is flagged as "unauthentic but canonical."
@imwelshjesus4 ай бұрын
Yes, but Catholicism gave up any pretence of being a religion once adopted by Roman Emperors to prop up their business interests slowly evolving the organisation into the dubious grift it is today.
@mburumbaappolus67283 ай бұрын
Was there even a person, human being called "Jesus Christ"... any historical or archaeological proof of any such a person ever living (other than 2nd and 3rd hand accounts). Plus the village of Nazareth was only established 200 years after its supposed mention in the New Testament (indeed when the Dowager Helena made the pilgrimage to Jerusalem in AD 326 AD, she asked "take me to Nazareth.....locals "we know not of any settlement of that name in Galilee, Madame").
@realLsf4 ай бұрын
It’s all a big game of pretending to know what they do not know
4 ай бұрын
because they want it to be true. It's low-bar bill's standard of epistemology.
@DannySmith8624 ай бұрын
I find information giving insight into the fragility of Christianity's origins so fascinating. This was great.
@donaldsmith76854 ай бұрын
The counter argument from those who have to/ want to protect the validity of the Gospels, for various reasons, will argue...It doesn't REALLY matter who actually wrote the Gospels, if his name was Mark or Joe, because all biblical text was inspired by God. Case closed.
4 ай бұрын
god did a really bad job of composing his holy book
@kikoissa4 ай бұрын
Fairy tales + Power + Money: it makes myths “debatable”.
@divine-by-zeroАй бұрын
So this is a half hour infomercial. Thanks. Just what I wanted.
@dwsmyyth34804 ай бұрын
The real dates of fiction is irrelevant.
@richardbillingsley95534 ай бұрын
Not if you own the intellectual property rights
@Pootycat83593 күн бұрын
The more I learn about Irenaeus, the more I become convinced HE was the No.1 "bad guy" in suppressing the full teaching of Jesus.
@elcoqui66734 ай бұрын
RELIGION KEEPS YOU FROM KNOWING THE POWER WITHIN YOU!!!
@BadgerWolf-194 ай бұрын
Oh great so you are God then?
@HiramLoki4 ай бұрын
Using all caps keeps people from taking you seriously!
@elcoqui66734 ай бұрын
@@BadgerWolf-19 WHERE DID I SAY I WAS GOD ?
@elcoqui66734 ай бұрын
IGNORANCE BREEDS MORE IGNORANCE, HAVE A GOOD JOURNEY !!!
@BadgerWolf-194 ай бұрын
@@elcoqui6673 mighty arrogant you are sir...so sad this is the result of the power within...pride. Good luck with that brody.
@kennethsnyder92369 күн бұрын
We must always challenge ourselves to what is real or imagined to be real. Once my heart strived for the hunger to be fulfilled, but after searching thoroughly my eyes were opened to the possibilities of religion is made up or by the very least contradictory to the facts. This was disturbing 😳 but lead me to seek other alternatives to no avail. We only live once and that life is short so, be free and happy with yourself in a common moral and ethical compass with the knowledge that there is no heaven or hell. Since there’s no eternal destiny, therefore there must be no manifestation whatsoever to guide us through this journey. We are all the captains of our own world. Let your conscience be your guide-
@eximusic4 ай бұрын
Just speak in your natural voice. Scholarship isn't a horror movie. Who says "suit coats"?
@mikeccall3 ай бұрын
Excellently done Derek!
@PeterGregoryKelly4 ай бұрын
Never forget what Abraham Lincoln said, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet". 🙂
@knossos5744 ай бұрын
Albert Einstein did not say, "Insanity is repeating something over and over until you expect different results". They continue to attribute this quote to him and well maybe the internet has succeeded in putting these words in Einstein's mouth. It's a lie.
@neiljohnson79144 ай бұрын
it wasn't lincoln who said that. it was george Washington.
@jeffreypardy28314 ай бұрын
the Urantia Book helps us to understand everything of our history
@discontinuedmodel2324 ай бұрын
Not to nitpick - but at 11:15 you show a painting depicting the Revolutionary War (George Washington is on a horse fighting British Redcoats) when you are talking about the time difference between the Civil War and Obamacare. 🤨
@Pierre-vn5rh4 ай бұрын
Merci pour cette introduction sur la rédaction des Évangiles. On avait déjà une idée des études universitaires. Avec le temps, cela va se préciser et l'histoire va s'écrire avec plus de justesse et véracité. Peace Paix Merci M. Lambert ❤❤❤
@mikebacon25904 ай бұрын
I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in the devil. I am not Jewish. I do believe in GOD. I cannot name the "NAME" of "GOD", but FAITH IS FAITH! I won't question anyone because I have faith.
@JacoJordaan-yw2nh4 ай бұрын
Sincere question. Do you mean you believe in "a god" or "God". There is a difference. And when you use the term "Faith" what does that mean to you?
@betadecay65034 ай бұрын
Faith is indeed faith, well done on figuring that out. Faith is also illogical and utterly useless.
@Mark130919614 ай бұрын
Faith is the excuse given when you dont have evidence. Faith was also what drove the airplanes into buildings killing many on September 11th faith drove many other believers to commit tragic acts. All religions rely on ‘faith’ but conflict with each other, therefore there is no position you could not hold based on faith. Therefore faith is utterly useless
@mariaandreaspashi19314 ай бұрын
In the Bible Jesus told some pagans who worshipped many false gods that they had great faith. These pagans with great faith demonstrated and believed in Saving.
@Mark130919614 ай бұрын
@@mariaandreaspashi1931 what logical reason is there to believe anything in the bible?
@journeymanandwoman4 ай бұрын
Once again, great work! Thank you.
@inyobill4 ай бұрын
Is church-sponsored Bible research anything like tobacco company cancer reseqarch?
@robinharwood50444 ай бұрын
Not as trustworthy.
@inyobill4 ай бұрын
@@robinharwood5044 LOLOLOL
@stuff2edit4 ай бұрын
It’s so nice to have an unbiased assessment of the gospel manuscripts unlike all those apologists 🙄
@thanevakarian97624 ай бұрын
It’s not unbiased though lol. This dudes deeply resentful his Christianity didn’t work out. Not even going to make a he’s right or wrong statement about the info presented in this comment but he’s anything but unbiased and admits as much lol.
@stuff2edit4 ай бұрын
@@thanevakarian9762 that's my point.
@seanrevelle5544 ай бұрын
you do realize that this video is still biased right, its obvious that this video is wanting the gospels to be later than earlier because it would support the narrators non belief, he does not want the Bible to be true, still biased. I'm going to let you in on a secret, no information is non biased,all information is biased even when the information is attempting to be non biased it still is biased. it is important to understand that it is impossible to not be a little biased and when we try not to be we just end up either with information that is the opposite of what we would want it to be so reverse bias or we end up being bias unconsciously.
@stuff2edit4 ай бұрын
@@seanrevelle554exactly. I was being facetious. This entire channel is “non-bias” content. There I did it again. 😂
@penlight528911 күн бұрын
Excellent job
@name_christian4 ай бұрын
Nice video.. But groundbraking? It should be common knowledge by now.
@andrewc12054 ай бұрын
It's not common knowledge for many Christians. The title is meant to attract misinformed theists so that they can hear the truth. Derek knows what he is doing.
@Joseph-cu8dk19 күн бұрын
Excellently narrated.
@torreyintahoe4 ай бұрын
This is very well done. Good job.
@benketengu4 ай бұрын
Thank you as always your videos are very well done and occasionally does satyr what I learned in Sunday school in the early 60s. Hope you’re happy in your new home after your move
@unicyclist974 ай бұрын
I can't see Luke and John being before the 2nd century. The reliance of Luke on Josephus is just too strong.
@johnnehrich96013 ай бұрын
Particularly the second book, published c. 93. (And we know "Luke" copies from Josephus and not the other way around is that Luke often gets it wrong or incomplete, leaving out details that in the Josephus version make the story make sense.)
@kevinkall85474 ай бұрын
Asop is spelled Aesop even by microsoft. are you using a mac?
@theprinceofdarkness46794 ай бұрын
Derek: mentions Civil War; shows stock photo of painting depicting American War for Independence Me: Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on Derek. fire those editors & get better ones
@AndrewofVirginia3 ай бұрын
The civil war was an American war for independence, lol. But this time those fighting for independence lost the war.
@theprinceofdarkness46793 ай бұрын
@@AndrewofVirginia the war between the states was fought in 1861-1865 & the uniforms were very different from the "uniforms" during the 1775-1783 conflict. men wearing breeches & 3 cornered hats were fighting a war in 1775-1783 men wearing duck bill caps & full-length trousers fought in 1861-1865 & blue & gray were the distinguishing colors between the 2 sides so the depiction that Derek showed was from a different century technically both wars were civil wars, both were wars for independence. however the typical names applied to each are fairly standard by now. American War for Independence & American Revolution are the typical names for 1775-1783 American Civil War & American War between the States are the typical names for 1861-1865 If you wish to characterize the 2 conflicts differently you are free to do so When you look at a history book you may get a different perspective from the historian who wrote it
@user-xu4ow8wu2q17 күн бұрын
Good stuff.
@andumenged4 ай бұрын
Dating the gospels after 70 is purely based on the assumption that Jesus could never have predicted the destruction of the temple which happened in 70 ad. This is an assumption based on ideology. If one looks only the hard facts like the dates and events in the book of acts which was written after the gospels it’s very clear that at least mark and luke were written before 70 ad. Top scholars like Sanders also see no problem in dating mark before 70. The textual evidence is simply overwhelming. Unfortunately bias and prejudice will not allow most of us to only stick to the facts
@robinharwood50444 ай бұрын
“Western literature “ - picture of a text in Sanskrit. “Teaching the Bible in schools “ - picture of a Muslim madrassa.
@doveseye.46664 ай бұрын
In addition to many species which are housed in the Farlow Herbarium, located at the Harvard University Herbaria, Wolfe spent months tracking rare species in far-flung locations like London and Hawaii. After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another. He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history. Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past. Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high. "I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living." Arguably the most widely-recognized group of mushrooms in the world, Amanita mushrooms have appeared in popular culture ranging from Fantasia to the Super Mario Brothers video games. Though it includes a number of edible species, such as the Amanita caesarea, the group is probably best known for its many toxic species, including the death-cap mushroom. Armed with their family tree, Pringle and Wolfe were able to determine that Amanita evolution has largely been away from species that help decompose organic material and toward those that live symbiotically on trees and their roots. More interestingly, they found that the transition came at a steep price -- the loss of the genes associated with breaking down cellulose. "There had been earlier suggestions that this type of gene loss might be taking place, but our study is the first precise test of that hypothesis," Pringle said. "The idea makes sense -- if you're going to actively form a cooperative relationship with a tree, you probably shouldn't simultaneously be trying to break it apart and eat it. But it's a very tricky dance to form these kinds of tight, cooperative interactions, and I think this work shows there is a cost associated with that. You have to change, you have to commit, and it can become a sort of gilded cage -- these mushrooms are very successful, but they're stuck where they are." Harvard researchers are unlocking the evolutionary secrets of one of the world's most recognizable groups of mushrooms, and to do it, they're using one of the most comprehensive fungal "family trees" ever created. As reported in paper published July 18 in PLoS ONE, Associate Professor of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology Anne Pringle and Ben Wolfe, a Post-Doctoral Fellow in FAS Center for Systems Biology, studied the genetics of more 100 species of Amanita mushrooms -- about one-sixth of the genus' total diversity -- to create an elaborate phylogeny showing how each species is related to one another. New research finds that Amanita mushrooms' evolution has largely been away from species that help decompose organic material and toward those that live symbiotically on trees and their roots. More interestingly, scientists found that the transition came at a steep price -- the loss of the genes associated with breaking down cellulose.
@bjornkreuze74233 ай бұрын
How many could read & write in in the early centurys, And from what social status where they ?
@jimoliver21634 ай бұрын
How did Jesus find apostles in the middle east with Anglo-Saxon sounding names?
@robinharwood50444 ай бұрын
Met them in the pub.
@battlerushiromiya6513 ай бұрын
The Aramaic names were anglicized
@thomaschapple47494 ай бұрын
Good to see Mythvision back in my timekine
@CatETru4 ай бұрын
A very proud Catholic here.... Please pass on my regards to your good buddy Tovia Singer.
@achildofthelight47254 ай бұрын
Who? The one who sings to his own 'T'ongue 'o'f 'V'enomous 'I'nfectious 'A'cid?
@Thedunguen99994 ай бұрын
@@achildofthelight4725damn y’all some haters. Y’all must be idolaters
@bernardofitzpatrick54034 ай бұрын
@@Thedunguen9999😂
@JesusLied_ReadTheBible4 ай бұрын
When someone gets their words wrong they are not of the divine like Deuteronomy 18:20-22 tells us (and common sense). Jesus belief is idolatry!
@EdwardM-t8p4 ай бұрын
@@achildofthelight4725 You're not supposed to bow down or genuflect before crucifixes and reverently sing of old rugged crosses! That, my deluded Christian, is pure idolatry.
@websmink4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Fantastic
@timothymulholland79054 ай бұрын
Very good! Thank you.
@Annaqi4 ай бұрын
Who is this scholar who bringeth new light? Please guide us that we may learned by thee!
@kytoaltoky4 ай бұрын
You could easily see someone claiming the 'Mother Goose' was a real person because her writings prove that she was a playmate of Jack Horner and Jack Sprat, grew up in a shoe, and was a first-hand witness of the demise of Humpty Dumpty!
@robinharwood50444 ай бұрын
And, Oh, what a fall was there …
@JohnDoe-tw8es3 ай бұрын
Every once in a while you come across a person who believes full heartedly on what the church has told them. It is with shock that they hear perhaps for the first time that they do not know who wrote the gospels etc. If nothing else it makes for a bit of fun with them.
@Rockyandmom4 ай бұрын
An assumption is all it is brother! Thank you so much for this! The truth changes everything. The bbl - the entire thing - wasn’t around until the surrounding literature makes mention of it. If you are reading this and you are not aware of when that is, do have a look for yourself.
@patrickkirby76124 ай бұрын
Man thanks for that info . I always wondered just how pieced together the Christian Bible was .
@drtaverner4 ай бұрын
St. Paul told people not to listen to the actual Desciples who knew Yeheshuah, because only _he_ truly knew the "Risen Christ."
@docbauk36434 ай бұрын
Well done. Thanks.
@4ozscoop4 ай бұрын
Wonder what dating app they use.
@modelsclameater4 ай бұрын
"The reason the authors of the Gospels didn't credit themselves is straightforward, and it seems you've either overlooked it or misunderstood the context of early Christianity. The answer lies in the persecution Christians faced at the time. Identifying themselves could have led to their capture and execution. Consider this before jumping to conclusions.".
@njhoepner4 ай бұрын
I'm not clear on who you're quoting. The claim itself isn't true - unless the gospels came from the second century at the earliest. There was no widespread persecution in the first century. Even after that it was intermittent - for most of the time up to the fourth century a christian could have identified themselves without serious repercussions. Many did.
@modelsclameater4 ай бұрын
Are you suggesting that there was no persecution of early followers of Jesus, despite the fact that he was arrested and executed for his teachings, which were considered blasphemous? Jesus wasn't guilty of any crime that would typically justify execution, like murder or rape. There were many valid reasons why early followers might have hesitated to put their names on the Gospels while attempting to preserve them.
@njhoepner4 ай бұрын
@@modelsclameater 1. You're presuming the gospel stories are accurate - no reason to make that presumption. 2. What justified execution back then is not the same as what justified execution today - you're committing an anachronism. 3. Even your bible does not say he was executed for his teachings, he was executed because the Romans were convinced that it would keep order, which was their sole interest in the matter. They were the ones who did the execution, and his teachings meant nothing to them. 4. Christians continued to travel and teach openly all over the empire for decades after that - sometimes getting in trouble from local authorities, but the Romans couldn't care less. Iranaeus of Lyons was still working and teaching openly in 185 CE. Periods of persecution were rare and varied from emperor to emperor - most didn't find them important enough to worry about, they had bigger fish to fry.
@jaymcgann66374 ай бұрын
One of MythVision"s best. The idea the GospeIs have any historic vaIue is beyond ridicuIous.
@battlerushiromiya6513 ай бұрын
It does though. The impact of christianity on the west itself makes the gospels important.
@gregattanasio31854 ай бұрын
Nice videos. But 1 question remains. HOW DID WE GET HERE???...
@robinharwood50444 ай бұрын
I’m at home. I live here.
@stevecollins45674 ай бұрын
Almost didn't click the link cos I didn't wanna see another apology video. Glad I did.
@michaelmcgee85434 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mikev46214 ай бұрын
Can we agree though that the order of appearance of the Gospels is : Mark, Matt, Luke , John ? And that they each have separate authorship?
@BenSolomonIM4 ай бұрын
Another great video Derek. You may or many not have come across the new book, "Christ before Jesus" by Matthew Britt and Jaaron Wingo. Quite an interesting read, and supports what was covered in the video from a different angle.
@shankoff14 ай бұрын
One way of determining when these books were likely written is by studying the writings of 2nd century apologist Justin Martyr. While he freely quotes Mark, Matthew, and the Infancy Gospel of James (c 140 CE), he only quotes passages in Like that also appear in James, and never quotes John. He refers to these as unattributed memoirs of the apostles.