Growing an Alphonso Mango Seedling, Days 274-609

[@Keaganhuntley]

Always love when you upload a video! I have an Alfonso mango too, and it seems to be the easiest mango species to care for so far. Thanks for the update!

[@ethiomusic3158]

This person or this channel is wonderful extremely. I have searched a lot of plant seedlings, this one is the impressive one for plant growers. Brilliant!!!

[@TheMelvinWei]

Thank you!

[@michael.knight]

Your Joshua tree is looking great too. Started watching your channel way back when it was small and I got my own Joshua tree. Might need to transplant it to a bigger pot after seeing yours.

[@TheMelvinWei]

I transplanted my Joshua tree to one of these really big self-watering square planters, I hope the root system stays healthy. I hardly watered until the rainy season started at the end of 2023.

[@lita7657]

​@@TheMelvinWei We need a video!

[@馬伕]

Uncle, nice snail.

[@PatC.]

Hi. at 31:50 I see spider mite webs. Maybe the Bioadvanced spray you used was not for spider mites. They do have a product called 3 in 1 that works for mites. But first, cut off all the browning leaves then blast it hard with the hose... underneath the leaves is where most of them hide. Then after it dries, spray with insecticidal soap.

[@TheMelvinWei]

Hi Pat C., I neglected my plants as I got busy with my job, but this one went downhill as the rainy season started at the end of 2023. The Bayer Bioadvanced 3-in-1 states that it's good against both mites and spider mites. The aphids are gone for good after I hose-showered everything at least. I'm afraid that my mango cutting is dead but I will wait until spring comes to make the final judgment. I'm sure that many of the little webs were from spider mites. Maybe they're what killed this plant.

[@PatC.]

. @TheMelvinWei Yes it does look like spider mite damage. I've had plants go downhill fast from those little prolific buggers. They just suck the life out of leaves fast because there are so many of them and nearly invisible so hard to notice them.. (they like my potted tangerine trees) But the insecticidal soap works good on spider mites. On another note... I notice you have a little picket fence now and I bet another passion fruit vine would look nice growing along that fence. Do you think you could do it?

[@jnpl95]

I'm not familiar with coco coir but I know that mango trees prefer slightly acidic to neutral soil with a pH range of around 6-7. I found your mango in a tube series fascinating, tried it myself and failed a couple times. For my next experiment, I'm thinking about adding more granular materials like in bonsai soil in the tubes, because the soil seemed to have compacted in after a year in the tube. Maybe drilling some holes along the middle to bottom with some gravel on the bottom to provide more aeration along the soil in the tube, not sure. I live in nj so I'm growing it all indoors If this mango seedling fails, are you going to try a fifth attempt? I'd love to see a mango produced from a mango tree from seed fully documented, afaik it hasn't been done ever from the videos I've looked for on yt.

[@TheMelvinWei]

Unfortunately it doesn't look like the mango survived all the pest infestations. I am on the verge of deciding when to pull it out and use the pot for something else. In my mango in a tube series when I cracked it open I noticed it was hard and compacted too, but it was mostly sand so I think the drainage was okay. Fine gravel is probably a good choice to maintain airspaces within the tube. One thing I hated about this Alphonso mango cutting was it can't stand on its own, so maybe I can try again from seed.

[@TheMelvinWei]

On social media I always see indoor time lapse videos on fast forward. In the videos I always notice after the initial sets of leaves and bursts of growth they start losing some of the new sets of leaves and the plant resprouts, etc. (already struggling). Mangos are the most fragile fruit tree I have tried to grow.

[@jnpl95]

​@@TheMelvinWei I managed to get to bark stage before it completely died i.imgur.com/XP8zk26.jpg Another one of the issues I am having is that there's not enough height with the long tubes and grow light above in the tent I'm using indoors. Anyways will try getting a taller tent for my next attempt and trying out a few things like I mentioned. Anyways the tube method that you invented was definitely a big help, since I got much further along than my other random normal pot experiments. They are definitely the most fragile plants I've ever encountered, it's such a struggle

[@jnpl95]

​ @TheMelvinWei I managed to get to bark stage before it completely died (Forgot links aren't allowed, my last comment was blocked, so I'm splitting it up) Image: i.imgur [dot] com / XP8zk26.jpg Another one of the issues I am having is that there's not enough height with the long tubes and grow light above in the tent I'm using indoors. Anyways will try getting a taller tent for my next attempt and trying out a few things like I mentioned. Anyways the tube method that you invented was definitely a big help, since I got much further along than my other random normal pot experiments. They are definitely the most fragile plants I've ever encountered, it's such a struggle

[@jnpl95]

I'm going to attempt a polyembryonic mango seed next, mine was a random store bought mango. No idea if it would have fruited and what species it was. But yeah mine definitely could stand up by itself due to the long taproot I assume. I'm not familiar with cuttings, but I wouldn't be able to stand having to make sure the cutting doesn't droop.

[@gurkengamingpvz21]

so what about the passiflora restart? you can get it to flower in under one year if you put them in a big pot immeadeatly. also your old one didnt produce fruit because it was a hybrid with p. verrucifera. this means that it was self infertile. next time you need to grow 2 different ones as most are edulis x verrucifera hybrids. also use high pottasium fertilizer to get more flowers. if something new is what you want, try to get a mapop root cutting or even grow one from seed. it grows fast and produces fruits within a year. good luck on your channel

[@MangoTreeNJ]

I’m Always talking about this channel and how you started growing the mango seed in a tube. I’m growing a mango from seed in a tube too ! Videos are on my channel. Thank you for inspiration

[@TheMelvinWei]

I just watched your 3 short videos, that looks healthy! The tube technique saves a lot of space and requires little upkeep, that's practical for indoor growing in New Jersey. Mango trees don't seem to do well even in very mild San Diego winters.

[@sheckydiamond7533]

It's good to see that you are no longer wearing those ridiculous arm sleeves.

[@gurkengamingpvz21]

my experience with mangos was never good. they usually sprout easily and rapidly, produce a shoot with their first set of leaves and these also usually grow. then they die off until only 2 remain, the meristem starts to produce a lot of growth, but everything shrivels up. and at that point the plants health is declining and death is only a month away. i tried everything and had only one mango that surpassed the one year mark. sadly back then, me being 12, i didnt think much of it and rather played games instead of waterin it. it died a week after with no chance of resurection. very sad to think back to

[@TheMelvinWei]

I think that's almost everyone's experience. That's why on social media I always see indoor time lapse videos on fast forward. In the videos I always notice after the initial sets of leaves and bursts of growth they start losing some of the new sets of leaves and the plant resprouts, etc. (already struggling). And if they take them outdoors it's a death sentence for the plant usually.

[@gurkengamingpvz21]

@@TheMelvinWei that's the struggle with tropical plants in not tropical climates sadly